Personally, I don't think you should be making videos in response to people who honestly try to pit TLT against someone with like 3 notable feats from a completely different, hardly comparable universe. Might as well had been a video on Zeno against One Above All, another all powerful being with little to no feats to show for it.
Zeno controls over 12 universes and even thinned down that number. The Living Tribunal has control over an infinite number of universes and exists in all of them simultaneously
Bro9650 what’s your point? Omni king can erase universes and not be affected by his ability. Multiverse goes, eternity goes with it until the universe reforms.
Ben Gabis TOAA and upper scale cosmic entities spank Omni King. Only Eternity I believe would fall to the Omni King since he is all that encompasses a universe.
I remember in a an old What If story. What If Inferno never ended. The Living Tribunal was going to destroy that universe if the Phoenix Force hadn't cleaned the earth of the Inferno effect. I think that is the closest that we know of him getting ready to destroy a universe.
+Javier .F If you ever read a comic or done research, Thanos had the power known as HOTU (Heart of the Universe) and shit stomped everyone in Marvel which is stronger than a combined force of tribunal and Zeno. Also a Celestial depending which member is a perfect match up for Zeno.
Living Tribunal exists as a singular being in an infinite multiverse, Zeno has different versions in just each universe, The Living Tribunal is on a far higher dimensional plane than Zeno
Lmfao Zeno is just a whiny kid who can't even keep up with speed of light fights and doesn't even fight in general as Beerus has stated. Zeno ain't shit and never was. All he can do is erase universes. THAT'S IT.
Yeah, and different versions of Zeno exist over the different timelines, The Living Tribunal exists over all timelines and multiverses as the same singular being. The Living Tribunal is easily 12th dimensional or above, Zeno is around 4th dimensional
@@ricardocisnero3931 he does keep up with fights lol he watched mui vs jiren awakened. Don't tell me u think Frieza (base form) and dyspo are faster than jiren and Goku in thier fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He erased a multiverse casually and he exists outside of the multiverse.
@@papadragon695 Zeno is 5-6D in power Dude by logic in order to be omniscient you need to be omnipotent and omnipresent, Zuno is omniscient but he's not omnipotent (to my knowledge 😂) So I don't think that should be used to make Zeno weaker because while all DB characters are 3D in terms of being thier power far exeeds that.
Living Tribunal would absolutely one shot Zeno. Also, I wish you would've explained M-Bodies a bit more for people who don't read Marvel Comics. An M-Body is basically a physical form that abstract entities inhabit when they need to interact with people: ordinarily they don't have bodies.
Living Tribunal simply exist on a higher plane of existence compared to Zeno. Like you pointed out the fact that their are different versions of Zeno that exist throughout the different universes and they all aren't aware of each other speaks volumes to that point.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 yeah exactly the living tribunal is more haxed stronger faster has more destructive Power he's not only the embodiment of all infinite dimensional abstracts but also the representative of The one above all's will who's omnipotent and boundless so living tribunal stomps even eternity would erase him in a second
Saheteraba Kutisha I wouldn’t waste your time on John. I’ve had several debates with him throughout this comment section. His only argument is “Well it was stated Zeno can’t be defeated in dbs” so he thinks that means he can’t be defeated in any verse. I’ve polity tried explaining to him multiple times how far TLT outclasses Zeno. He either must have poor reading comprehension or just refuses to admit that Zeno doesn’t have any showing of power that would at all make him comparable to TLT.
@@DixonAsze I know right statements In a verse does not imply to other verses he's using the No limits falacy thing zeno can't solo all other fictions that would be bullshit in every way
The living tribunal is on The nigh omnipresent,nigh omniscient, and nigh omnipotent while The one above all is on the Omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent
So far, we dont know much about Zeno to put him against Living Tribunal. Destroying a timeline of 12 universes is impressive, but nowhere near Living Tribunal level impressive. Until we know Zeno's upper limit, Im going with LT all day, every day.
@Angello! R. zalama would solo all everything except for GOD and Jesus bit tribunal toaa zalama from dbs final form would slap the whole marvel and dc universe
@@ZayneDaSamoan First Zalama hasnt appered yet!! Second How tf can he solo Marvel, you know there around 50 Marvel Characters that can literally one shot all of Dragon ball!!
Compared to The Living Tribunal, Zeno is definitely lacking- Omnipresence- he has counterparts in other timelines, but they’re not connected by a hive mind, being separated individuals. Omniscience- he has to be reminded of his own tournament rules and participants remaining. Omnipotence- while his erasure of the entire multiverse and select individuals, it’s only limited to one timelime and not all of them. This implies that there’s greater beings above him likely his retainer, the Grand Minister and possibly Zalama, the maker of the Super Dragon Balls.
is this even a contest? Living tribunal has way more amazing feats. Zeno isnt omnipresent as well, the only thing zeno could do is de populate or erase a universe
@@bengabis8232 even mister mxyzptlk is infinitely higher then zeno because zeno's best feat is wipe in out Multiple universes which is considered 4th dimensional at best and mister mxyzptlk is 5th dimensional 5D is infinitely greater then 4D
@@zenosama3273 Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>DB Also Having More fans Dosent mean Dog shit at all, Stop Trying to use that as an excuse to why Dragon Ball Gets one Shotted by Marvel, No Difficulty what-so-ever
@ThunderCat123 Studios Zeno cannot be killed no matter what enemy he is up against, as Shin said. In addition, Zeno can keep existing even if an entire universe and/or timeline is erased, he will just keep living in the void. Can the Living Tribunal even do that?
@Vados Yes...anything Zeno can do, The Living Tribunal can do it on an infinitely higher scale. I like Zeno, but he's an insignificant speck compared to The Living Tribunal.
The only reason people say DB destroys marvel and dc is because there are thinking about the MOVIES, CARTOONS, and TV SHOWS where they are nerfed to the point where it's just stupid if you compare all that to the comics than the comic versions of those characters beat the hell out of the mainstream versions over and over
Zeno isn't anywhere *near* Living Tribunal. LT is *at least* 16-dimensional. Zeno is 4-dimensional at best, and even that's questionable IMHO. Not to mention Zeno doesn't seem to have *any* abilities/hax outside of existence-erasure on a multi-universal scale, while LT (Being the living embodiment of the Marvel multiverse) has every hax that exists in Marvel, along with omnipresence and omniscience. The difference between the two is greater than the difference between Zeno and a 0-dimensional dot, as far as I can tell.
Zeno: Can erase stuff, an entire universe Living Tribunal: ...took away the infinity gauntlet from Adam Warlock and nullified its powers, can see into the future, make said visions become reality or unravel it, can manipulate time itself, exists in every feasible universe and timeline simultaneously as one being due to its potency, and was even immune to the powers of Protege, who, even after touching him and gaining omnipotence was able to overcome him. Those are just a "fraction" of his feats, mind you, not to mention he's unaffected by time and time-based attacks, where as Zeno is very vulnerable in comparison. The Living Tribunal dwarfs him in every conceivable argument, I don't care what anyone says as it's mostly head canon.
Zeno isn't a beyonder, the beyoners were written in a way that they were stronger than virtually any being in the known universe and aren't a non-omnipoten, non writer-armored being like Zeno. I don't even know why you brought that up.
Zeno needs protection implying he can die(but not confirmed) and needs almost everything explained to him. He also can't keep up with faster characters and can't see when there's smoke. His destruction capabilities is really powerful, but his lack in so many areas leaves me to believe that many characters in marvel and DC could kill him.
3 yrs late lol, Zeno needs guards because he’s a child. They protect the universes, making sure he doesn’t erase everyone. They are just guides, zeno doesn’t need guards. They just serve as advisors because the angels are lazy fucks
Purple kid - Ruler of 12 universes Living Tribunal - The judge of all MULTİVERSES. Zeno doesn't knows everything, hes not omnipotent, hes not omnipresent, Living Tribunal is omnipresent he can be everywhere if he wants. He's right hand of God's. Zeno's level about high tier Celestial or Hungry Galactus hes not even strong as abstracts like Lord Chaos, Master Order, In Betweener, Master Hate, Mistress Love, Eon, Death, İnfinity, Eternity. Not even close to Living Tribunal or The Beyonder or Protege... (Oblivion is far above this characters like he said everything is an illusion of him everything is made by him. And Oblivion created by One Above All... well its the real hierarchy of Marvel. One Above All - Writer/ True boundless creator/ God of Marvel Megaverse.
Zeus Cronuson the beyonder is way stronger than obvilion who was stated to be stronger than all of marvel billions of times and lives outside of the marvel multiverse. In his own realm called beyonder he called all of marvel power a droplet Inna ocean compared to his power and universe so yeah no
@@ultimatessj456 LOl i watched all of dbs u really think puny ui is gonna do something lmao watch the video i can tell u never read a comic in ur life. Do something for once and watch something other then dbs because ur fanboying is funny af. I dare u to post that stupid ass shit on reddit and comic vine watch how many people would laugh at u. Anyway good bye troll
Fauxwhistle 1909 but how does he win? He has more feats but how exactly would Zeno get killed? If Zeno can still survive a universe being erased what can really kill him. Even if he’s not omnipresent or nigh Omni Zeno still has a very incredible feat.
@Marlito World He wins because Zeno's a speck compared to him. All Zeno could do to The Living Tribunal is angrily glare before getting wiped from existence. The Living Tribunal is just that more powerful than him.
S.P.3518 yeah the living tribunal can do much much more but at the end of the day the biggest feat or worst thing you can do to someone is erase them right? This is something they both can do and I’m very sure Zeno survived a whole universe being destroyed casually. Yes one character can do more but it actually still is not clear how the other would win. For example; Every time beings with the power to erase universes etc face off against each other, the one who always wins is the one who can erase atleast 1 more universe than the other lol. to me it’s not a convenient way to declare a winner. Unless the living tribunal is the one that created Zeno or created his universe then how exactly would he win if Zeno is virtually indestructible to erasure? Yes living tribunal is nigh omnipresent and all that stuff but how does that really prove he can beat Zeno, When the whole idea of Zeno is he can’t be defeated no matter what. Even if he isn’t omnipotent or present.
@Marlito Zeno survived a universe being erased because he was the one to erase it in the first place. It's not like he'd hurt himself. Besides, you're thinking that just because these two characters can do the same thing (erase), Zeno is automatically immune to it. He's not. Zeno's not immune to a higher power, and The Living Tribunal is infinitely more powerful than him. I'm going to put it in a different way. Let's pretend that Zeno is immune to being erased (which he's not if the being trying to erase him is more powerful, but let's pretend). The Living Tribunal could use his physical strength and pop Zeno like a grape. Any way you look at it, Zeno's dead.
Thinking about it, the Gods of Destruction are literally just martial artist who got super strength and super speed and can shoot energy blast etc. While Marvel and Dc gods can have the option to do the same exact shit but can create/erase Universes, realities, control time, control fate, travel through time, manipulate/change anything etc etc. It's like comparing the Z fighters against multiple Zenos on steroids lol.
Power Scaling in fiction is like trying to predict who would win a wrestling match. Regardless of who you think should win, the writers can do whatever they want, and will most likely concentrate on the story being told rather than who should actually win. As fans, all we can do is speculate or complain when we disagree, but in the end, it's all up to the writers. As long as people are having a friendly discussion, I have no problems with it.
Theirs an eternity for ench universe in the Multiverse These eternites are mare aspects of the Multiversal eternity who is himself a small aspect of the living tribunal So the Multiverse only makes a insignificant portion of the living tribunal this Multiversal structure is shown to have infinite timelines universes and dimensions and the tribunal exists beyond that
I don’t really even know why this video was made. I’m not even really familiar with the living tribunal and even I know that he shitstomps omniking. Everyone already knows that he would win. Why was the video even made? I love you Geekdom and I’m not trying to fault you or anything or say that you did anything wrong I just don’t know what purpose this video served
This video was made for the erratic fanboys who genuinely believe that Zeno's more powerful than he really is. That's pretty much it. Sadly, it still doesn't stop the more foolish individuals from arguing over common knowledge.
U know I’d love to see them in the movies as well but if any of the cosmic entities were to appear in the movies it’d just be ridiculous. Since it’d be ridiculous to scale them down if any of them were to appear in the movies but it’d also be ridiculous to keep them the same since the comic version are already so monstrously powerful what would any of the characters do if and when any of them appeared they’d be specks to them. So I’m kinda torn if I want to see any of them in the movies a nice reference/ name drop is always a nice I guess.
Shouldve been in this last Avengers film when some shouldve tried to intervene. Definitely should be in the next Avengers film. In MCU they basically allowed Thanos to do "The Snappening." But the writers arent exactly readers or fans..they're about merchandising, product placement. And pushing action/comedy with no real sustenance to the storyline.
iv been watching dragon ball for 8 years now and as a dragon ball fan living tribunal stomps sure zeno could destroy 12 universes just like that but the living tribunal has held mega verses and you may be wondering how big is a mega verse well its a collection of infinite universes so living tribunal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zeno its not even close srry zenny
There's no debating it. There's no doubting it. The Living Tribunal would easily destroy Zeno. I've personally never seen Zeno do anything but erase things. And LT has a shit ton of feats. Zeno's a joke compared to the cosmic entity part of Marvel.
people sleep on how powerful characters in the marvel universe are and a lot use the movies as a guide, but nothing what we've seen in the movies even covers the upper tier of Marvel. Love the video
No cap It's crazy how the strongest person to fight thanos was CAPTAIN MARVEL in the mcu. Bruh SENTRY Silver surfer Hyperion Blue marvel And even Franklin Richards would've DESTROYED thanos😂
陳潔明 excuse me, are you talking to me, I need a brain ?? yes I have a brain at least I think rationally we're not talking about Goku vs Blablabla, but Zeno vs Blablabla and Zeno was a character with infinite power undefeated basically supreme god
@@johnsean122 Hasn't been defeated =/= cannot be defeated... Cannot be defeated in one setting =/= invincible in all settings... Beyonders >>>>> Living Tribunal prior to the Secret War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeno who has only been able to destroy universes...
From my understanding (correct me if im wrong) Zeno has only sver handled 18 universes with a different version of him in each. Meaning separate entities. The Living Tribunal handles infinite universes and is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient in all of them as the same being. I'm pretty sure The Living Tribunal wouldn't pay attention to Zeno. And to think that Oblivion exists outside of TLT and TOAA outside of Oblivion it's crazy
TLT isn't full on omni but at nigh level on all 3. And since Oblivion exists in the void of nothingness, there's literally no way for him to be beaten, destroyed, or even erased because, he's literally already part of nothingness lol
Dam right like zeno is only 4D for destroying a timeline and the living tribunal is infinitely more powerful than anyone in dragon Ball super and can obliterate it with a thought
Living tribunal solos the composite franchise Also i love the difference in appearance between lord Chaos and Master order One looks like those drama masks with the cosmos on It The Other looks like a angry decapited Lex Luthor And they are supposed to be "brothers" Besides even If they make dragon ball super stronger i doubt they Will touch higher dimensions that much And 10:12 i love How everyone There is completely still, seriously looking that us to look badass, and then there is lord Chaos looking he is chewing a giant jawbraker while having a seizure
Zeno as far as I know it is eternal, but even he has his limits. For example the Living Tribunal could just outlive him since Zeno can only live until the 12 universes die and before so his child form is probably only 5 billion years old and he’s got like 200 billion years left to live and then he will die. The living tribunal will live for like 1,000 billion years and still be as powerful as his first day of creation and still have 50 billion years left to live. This only means Zeno might be inmortal, but immortality comes in different ways. We can say vampires seem inmortal, because they can live up to 500 to 2,000 years. One example Dracula who is at most 3,000 to 5,000 years old and still has like 1,000 more years left. Also for example Doomsday could seem inmortal since he’s got like 1,000 years under his belt and could technically live for like 50,000 more years. Thor has been living for almost 5,000 years and he can seem like an inmortal being too although he will eventually die in like 15,000 to 20,000 more years. Asgardians for the most part only live for like 10,000 or 15,000 years and then they die, but Thor is different so he can live up to 30,000 years. Superman Prime for example can seem inmortal but even he will die at around 3 billion years. Zeno might 5 or even 6 billion years old but even he will have to die
DBZ and anime in general illustrate power levels in a more visually appealing way. Whereas DC and Marvel just explain what these characters can do but I've not seen one animated series or movie about them and their feats.
kab1r they do this because it is hard for the average viewer to imagine these concepts, like dimentional tiers, or beings so powerful that they can do almost anything.
I agree with your points. An explosion is easy to do for animators and DBZ power scaling is a simple concept. The whole time and space manipulation would be a cool thing to see in animated form. I sometimes think these OP characters were created with no decent storyline.
I don't really read the comics but a friend of mine told me that Zeno is more powerful than the Living Tribunal and he told me about how all the Zenos could kill the Living Tribunal like the Beyonders did.
@@00Grimreaper00 I did lol.super shenron is limitless and will murder the living tribunal easily.... And we only saw Zeno like one year while the living tribunal was like 20 years.just you wait until Zeno shows a far better feats than the living tribunal and don't say "zeno is bounded by time so the living tribunal stomps"it's anime.everything is possible.
Stop I'm a db fan but super shenron is not limitless lol that a no limit fallacy beside all you have to do is destroy the super dragon ball which living tribunal could do easily just by looking at him and super shenron is gone yes you might be right zeno could be stronger than the living tribunal but until then zeno has proven that he is bound by time since there is 2 version of him and even if he wasn't bound by time the living tribunal is in a far higher dimensional plane then zeno. Zeno couldn't even track dypso speed and the living tribunal is nigh onmipresence he disabled the infinity gauntlet which grant the user nigh omnipotent abilities and zeno isnt anywhere near nigh omnipotent so the living tribunal would clearly shitstomp zeno and solo all of dragon ball without even trying
Toaa and other marvel cosmic entities are how gods should look like i dont know why zeno has an annoying and dumb design. Akira toriyama shit in character design when it comes to Gods from db
I agree. Living Tribunal and other gods have sleek designs. Meanwhile, WTF is zeno's design? someone was on something when they came up with that design.
@@hrnbrigade4991 honestly yes maybe he is childish that doesn't mean he should look like a baby Beyonder is kinda acts childish and he is still looks like an adult even gods in ben 10 verse has better designs
@@hainguyn948 the beyonder and the beyonders are not the same the beyonder is just one person and the beyonders there a race of nigh-omnipotent beings who lives outside the marvel multiverse
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO another delusional Dragon ball fanboy from the dB Community, Zeno is 3D and has only destroyed 12 Universes using way way way way more than 1% of his power, LT deleted two megaverses effortlessly with only 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of his power which individually contains infinite numbers of freaking Multiverses in it, LT holds the DB multiverse and crush it like it’s a little tiny fly using 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% of LT power, DB is weak compared to the marvel universe, Sentry laughs at goku smacks his head off and solos all of dragon ball, ur verse is weak fanboy compared to marvel and dc. Stop living in a fantasy land.
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO characters that can literally delete the weak DB verse out of existence with just a look 👀 :TOAA LT Beyonder Phoenix Marquis of Death Black Winter Celestials All Cosmic entities Mad jester Oblivion mere presence blinks Dragon ball The one below all There is hundreds of hundreds of marvel characters that will blink DB and don’t get me stated on dc, Go sit down fanboy
Zeno is pretty weak compared to marvel gods but op against the marvel heros honestly people can't really compare zeno to other godlike characters until we see him doing something like destroying a multiveres that only 12 unversive
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s he probably find a way to scramble his inside or something with telportation and get zeno brain out side of zeno body but I think zeno would erase him before he can do that
Isn't zamalah technically stronger than zeno since he made the super dragon balls and the dragon balls reflect the power of it's maker and the super dragon balls have the power to destroy zeno and do literally anything.
@@bluerocket5127 Uh what are you even saying? I said that there is no term like "one infinite universe" like you commented, there is either multiverse or infinite multiverse Dbz has multiverse but not infinite
If you read Marvel Comics, you obviously know the winner. I know that. But many people don't read Marvel and that's why I made this video.
Do another video with Rob from comicsexplained. You two are perf
@@NinchuRevenge3 I second this, hell yea
Goku wins
They can be as strong as they want, but they will NEVER become more broken than the top 3 Medaka Box characters
Personally, I don't think you should be making videos in response to people who honestly try to pit TLT against someone with like 3 notable feats from a completely different, hardly comparable universe. Might as well had been a video on Zeno against One Above All, another all powerful being with little to no feats to show for it.
Zeno controls over 12 universes and even thinned down that number.
The Living Tribunal has control over an infinite number of universes and exists in all of them simultaneously
*Zeno Controls Cver 12 Macroverses
@@deusefieldeus8392 when
@@deusefieldeus8392 that a joke right.
@big man rasheed. Cthulhu Mythos>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
Because zeno created only 18 universe then he erased and 12 left
Dragon Ball Gods are pretty damn strong but Marvel cosmic entities are just absolutely ridiculous.
who do you think is the strongest?
Easily Living Tribunal. Omni King is definitely above Eternity though
Actually toaa(the one above all) is the strongest in marvel comics, he cant be in the movies cuz he too op
Bro9650 what’s your point? Omni king can erase universes and not be affected by his ability. Multiverse goes, eternity goes with it until the universe reforms.
Ben Gabis TOAA and upper scale cosmic entities spank Omni King. Only Eternity I believe would fall to the Omni King since he is all that encompasses a universe.
A good Marvel character to cover would be Sentry or Odin vs someone like Beerus or Broly from the new movie after we see what he can do
Don't put Universe busters vs below galaxy busters. Not fair
Odin would beat Beerus. That's pretty obvious. I think Chuck already cover that in a video. Odin is much more powerful than Beerus.
Sentry is inconsistent.
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil Odin is a universe buster
Beerus stomp Odin and sentry . Let alone broly lol.
Zeno: I can erase 12 universes
Living tribunal: That's cute
Zeno can erase far more than 12 universes
@@jackour8167 he can only destroy 12 universe
@@jackour8167 zeno is only multiversal
@@angelblackyt83 even hit is infinite 5D high multiversal + stop downplaying
@@jackour8167 lmao putting zeno above multiversal he didnt even exist outside of time
The Living Tribunal has WAY better feats.
I remember in a an old What If story. What If Inferno never ended. The Living Tribunal was going to destroy that universe if the Phoenix Force hadn't cleaned the earth of the Inferno effect. I think that is the closest that we know of him getting ready to destroy a universe.
And pecs
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Feats don’t determine everything.
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Zeno was created in 2016 so yeah....
Honestly, a really strong celestial is enough to take down Zeno. Living Tribunal is just overkill.
Scσяρισи Tнє Hєℓℓѕραωи you are very right.
Living tribunal lost to thanos -_- How can you say that he is stronger than zeno
Javier .F Because Thanos would casually obliterate Zeno
+Javier .F If you ever read a comic or done research, Thanos had the power known as HOTU (Heart of the Universe) and shit stomped everyone in Marvel which is stronger than a combined force of tribunal and Zeno.
Also a Celestial depending which member is a perfect match up for Zeno.
@TX NG tell me how
Living Tribunal exists as a singular being in an infinite multiverse, Zeno has different versions in just each universe, The Living Tribunal is on a far higher dimensional plane than Zeno
Baked sorry, that’s what I meant
Lmfao Zeno is just a whiny kid who can't even keep up with speed of light fights and doesn't even fight in general as Beerus has stated. Zeno ain't shit and never was. All he can do is erase universes. THAT'S IT.
Yeah, and different versions of Zeno exist over the different timelines, The Living Tribunal exists over all timelines and multiverses as the same singular being. The Living Tribunal is easily 12th dimensional or above, Zeno is around 4th dimensional
@@ricardocisnero3931 he does keep up with fights lol he watched mui vs jiren awakened.
Don't tell me u think Frieza (base form) and dyspo are faster than jiren and Goku in thier fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He erased a multiverse casually and he exists outside of the multiverse.
@@papadragon695 Zeno is 5-6D in power
Dude by logic in order to be omniscient you need to be omnipotent and omnipresent, Zuno is omniscient but he's not omnipotent (to my knowledge 😂)
So I don't think that should be used to make Zeno weaker because while all DB characters are 3D in terms of being thier power far exeeds that.
Living Tribunal would absolutely one shot Zeno. Also, I wish you would've explained M-Bodies a bit more for people who don't read Marvel Comics. An M-Body is basically a physical form that abstract entities inhabit when they need to interact with people: ordinarily they don't have bodies.
yep, hence why they're abstract
Of course,i mean LT is too overkill,DBS is still a low tier verse btw
Even doctor Manhattan one shots zeno lol
LT will blink and Omni king will get erased
@@CertifiedGamer1 delusional
Yea Living tribunal is just too much for Zeno. Zeno pleads No contest.
Yeah too much while zeno can easly kill living tribunal, zeno lives outside the multiverse and i think its tie
@11old gaming it’s no where near a tie.
@@11oldgaming46 hell no zeno is bounded by time and timelines so he utterly loses pretty bad
@@11oldgaming46 Zeno looses badly
11old gaming zeno is not nor omnipresent ahahahaha
Living Tribunal simply exist on a higher plane of existence compared to Zeno. Like you pointed out the fact that their are different versions of Zeno that exist throughout the different universes and they all aren't aware of each other speaks volumes to that point.
Living Tribunal: if you smell what the living Tribunal is cooking?!!!
Grand Priest : NANI ?
Living Tribunal: ZENO
Grand Priest "TRIGGERED"🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Living Tribunal can Sleep and Zeno has no chance...
living tribunal just eat breakfast and go shower , and he beats zeno just by doing that
@Leutnant M. OSSILP hell no ur on crack the living tribunal can erase zeno while he is clipping his toe nails
@Leutnant M. OSSILP zeno is literally nothing to the living tribunal did u even watch the video?
@Leutnant M. OSSILP ur the worst troll ever living tribunal would destroy zeno from a mere shower🤣🤣🤣
@Leutnant M. OSSILP dude you are kidding right😂😂. LT is way too much for entire db verse.
Zeno is low multiversal while living tirbunal is outerversal LT blinks zeno out of existence
John Sean Do you have evidence Zeno is stronger? If not we shouldn’t give respect.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 yeah exactly the living tribunal is more haxed stronger faster has more destructive
Power he's not only the embodiment of all infinite dimensional abstracts but also the representative of
The one above all's will who's omnipotent and boundless so living tribunal stomps even eternity would erase him in a second
Beau Dennis Exactly What I meant. God forbid the Beyonder finds the DBZ verse. Or The Marquis of death.
Saheteraba Kutisha I wouldn’t waste your time on John. I’ve had several debates with him throughout this comment section. His only argument is “Well it was stated Zeno can’t be defeated in dbs” so he thinks that means he can’t be defeated in any verse. I’ve polity tried explaining to him multiple times how far TLT outclasses Zeno. He either must have poor reading comprehension or just refuses to admit that Zeno doesn’t have any showing of power that would at all make him comparable to TLT.
@@DixonAsze I know right statements In a verse does not imply to other verses he's using the
No limits falacy thing zeno can't solo all other fictions that would be bullshit in every way
omniscient = all knowing
omnipotent = all powerful
omnipresent = everywhere at once
No no he not omniscient and omnipresent in his universe
Sin nombre ni foto de perfil zeno isnt omnipotent he only has raw power
So they strong
You know who's all three tenchi from tenchi muyo lol
The living tribunal is on The nigh omnipresent,nigh omniscient, and nigh omnipotent while The one above all is on the Omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent
So far, we dont know much about Zeno to put him against Living Tribunal. Destroying a timeline of 12 universes is impressive, but nowhere near Living Tribunal level impressive. Until we know Zeno's upper limit, Im going with LT all day, every day.
This.
There are two Zenos which means he's bounded by time lol
@Angello! R. zalama would solo all everything except for GOD and Jesus bit tribunal toaa zalama from dbs final form would slap the whole marvel and dc universe
@@ZayneDaSamoan First Zalama hasnt appered yet!!
Second How tf can he solo Marvel, you know there around 50 Marvel Characters that can literally one shot all of Dragon ball!!
@@zanin34122 yea like eternity tlt toaa. but can they do that to tori bot tho 🤔
Living Tribunal obliterates no contest
DatMysticRacist no
@@eazylegend9614 yes
@@eazylegend9614 I like dbs but come one zeno is not winning
But xeno zeno that's another story
Living Tribunal is bound by the concept of size and complexity. So Zeno erases him
One above all wins....
Depends if super shenron can use its wishes
@@gwroly nah super shenron not even in the conversation....
Goku wins
@@lwzeis here we go with the goku stans 🙄
@@symeoncarter8144 what do u mean
Compared to The Living Tribunal, Zeno is definitely lacking-
Omnipresence- he has counterparts in other timelines, but they’re not connected by a hive mind, being separated individuals.
Omniscience- he has to be reminded of his own tournament rules and participants remaining.
Omnipotence- while his erasure of the entire multiverse and select individuals, it’s only limited to one timelime and not all of them.
This implies that there’s greater beings above him likely his retainer, the Grand Minister and possibly Zalama, the maker of the Super Dragon Balls.
Omnipotence requires Omnipresence and Omniscience too.
@@almightygamerz6311hah, living tribunal is outerversal lol
is this even a contest? Living tribunal has way more amazing feats. Zeno isnt omnipresent as well, the only thing zeno could do is de populate or erase a universe
Erase 12 Universes at once but then again no chance to living tribunal
@@user-xt7jq8qp9x just 12
@@thedoctor8757 yea only 12 Lolololol
one is a child with god powers the next one is a god with god powers
Yaw
One is a child god above gods of destruction and angel of time
With god powers
And the next one is god with god power
A god with god power that lost a battle against thanos with the gauntlet... that easily be erased by zeno
@@javier.f1324 one is a child whos just multiversal
and the next is a god whos nigh omnipotent
No More CHANCE!! Zeno can kill a omnipotent god.
You should do stuff like this more often.
Living Tribunal just eats Zeno
LetsWatch He wouldn't want to do that though.
Without tying
Absorbs zeno
@@bengabis8232 even mister mxyzptlk is infinitely higher then zeno because zeno's best feat is wipe in out
Multiple universes which is considered 4th dimensional at best and mister mxyzptlk is 5th dimensional
5D is infinitely greater then 4D
@@Legend_Guy-19 yeah he would
Yeah I’ve always been of a mind that Zeno isn’t actually “physically” strong. He just has a powerful ability within the context of his universe.
DB gods cannot really scale to Marvel/DC gods sorry DB fans, these comics are crazy.
Gotex Marvel has been our way longer the fuck you expect
We dont care db is #1 famous dont care marvel gods or whatever db is best ever and db have more fans #1 always DB 💖
Avotic iOS it being out longer doesn’t mean anything it doesn’t take much to make a stupid OP character i can come up with one in 5 mins lmao
@@twinflame2885 db 💖💖💖 fans >>>>>>>>> marvel
@@zenosama3273 Marvel>>>>>>>>>>>DB
Also Having More fans Dosent mean Dog shit at all, Stop Trying to use that as an excuse to why Dragon Ball Gets one Shotted by Marvel, No Difficulty what-so-ever
Living Tribunal Claps Zeno's cheeks
@ThunderCat123 Studios Zeno cannot be killed no matter what enemy he is up against, as Shin said.
In addition, Zeno can keep existing even if an entire universe and/or timeline is erased, he will just keep living in the void. Can the Living Tribunal even do that?
Also since there are 2 Zenos they could also make a fusion and become doubly more powerful..
Merged Zeno lol
Lol not even a question.
@Vados Yes...anything Zeno can do, The Living Tribunal can do it on an infinitely higher scale. I like Zeno, but he's an insignificant speck compared to The Living Tribunal.
😆😆😆
Living tribunal is the embodiement of the marvel multi/omni/hyperverse. Zeno is one Zeno amongst others. LT wins through his sheer divine superiority.
only multi and hyperverse, the one above all is the embodiment of the omniverse
No More CHANCE!! Correct that he made it
Living Tribunal stomps!
Zeno has never show any others powers that proof can kill or damage living tribunal and the living tribunal shows more impressive power than Zeno did
The Living Tribunal warming up the roast hands in the thumbnail..
A single Celestial bodies the DBS-verse. LT is just infinite overkill
@@johnsean122 no
@@johnsean122 bitch none of that is even right.
@@johnsean122 Those were drones
@John Sean
Are you that stupid?
@@hausuandim1193 lmao everyone is clowning that dude.
The only reason people say DB destroys marvel and dc is because there are thinking about the MOVIES, CARTOONS, and TV SHOWS where they are nerfed to the point where it's just stupid if you compare all that to the comics than the comic versions of those characters beat the hell out of the mainstream versions over and over
I know right
Exactly
That or they know how weak the tv versions are so that way db can win
Marvel comics are way larger than Dragon Ball
And because they don't know about the pantheons of cosmic beings that could shatter the multiverse on a whim
Goku: I want to challenge the Marvel gods!
Thanos: Are you insane?!
Goku: Yeah from Earth!
Vegeta: *facepalms*
Daniel Medjedovic *thor has joined the chat*
some dude shiittt tune king Thor would destroy lol
*Goku sees the marvel abstract*
WoW tHeY aLL LooK sUpEr poWerFuL I WaNNa fIgHt tHem EsPeciaLLy tHat biG gOld oNe wiTh hEaDs.
Thanos: shaking his head
@Gogeta *goku gets erased*
This main comment funny asf😂😂😂
5:25 r.i.p warlock😭
My dude straight told tribunal to try to take the gauntlet from him😂😂😂
Zeno isn't anywhere *near* Living Tribunal. LT is *at least* 16-dimensional. Zeno is 4-dimensional at best, and even that's questionable IMHO. Not to mention Zeno doesn't seem to have *any* abilities/hax outside of existence-erasure on a multi-universal scale, while LT (Being the living embodiment of the Marvel multiverse) has every hax that exists in Marvel, along with omnipresence and omniscience. The difference between the two is greater than the difference between Zeno and a 0-dimensional dot, as far as I can tell.
No...Zeno is whatever Toriyama wants him to be wether it makes any logical sense or not
@Random Stranger Online doctor strange above zeno ??
He isn't even above Gohan . Lol
@THE Emarald Z GG GG wtf??
Xeno is 4th dimensional ??
@@AtulSingh-px5wf
Show the feats...
@TX NG ever heard of the one above all, and btw zeno creating everything is false
Zeno: Can erase stuff, an entire universe
Living Tribunal: ...took away the infinity gauntlet from Adam Warlock and nullified its powers, can see into the future, make said visions become reality or unravel it, can manipulate time itself, exists in every feasible universe and timeline simultaneously as one being due to its potency, and was even immune to the powers of Protege, who, even after touching him and gaining omnipotence was able to overcome him.
Those are just a "fraction" of his feats, mind you, not to mention he's unaffected by time and time-based attacks, where as Zeno is very vulnerable in comparison.
The Living Tribunal dwarfs him in every conceivable argument, I don't care what anyone says as it's mostly head canon.
@Bob Stickman
What does that say about the power of the 3 Beyonders? 3 of them took out the Living Tribunal
Zeno isn't a beyonder, the beyoners were written in a way that they were stronger than virtually any being in the known universe and aren't a non-omnipoten, non writer-armored being like Zeno.
I don't even know why you brought that up.
Um LT was getting beat up by Protege... It was PIS bullshit that beat Protege.
LT needed help to defeat protege it was actually a celestial that depowered him LT just sealed him away
+Bob Stickman, ohh what about this?
he was killed by master order and Lord chaos. defeated by King thanos, observed by thanos with hotu.
The Living Tribunal Dwarfs Zenos Abilities By Far
Easily
LT>zeno
Even galactus oneshots zeno
Zeno needs protection implying he can die(but not confirmed) and needs almost everything explained to him. He also can't keep up with faster characters and can't see when there's smoke.
His destruction capabilities is really powerful, but his lack in so many areas leaves me to believe that many characters in marvel and DC could kill him.
3 yrs late lol, Zeno needs guards because he’s a child.
They protect the universes, making sure he doesn’t erase everyone. They are just guides, zeno doesn’t need guards. They just serve as advisors because the angels are lazy fucks
Purple kid - Ruler of 12 universes
Living Tribunal - The judge of all MULTİVERSES.
Zeno doesn't knows everything, hes not omnipotent, hes not omnipresent, Living Tribunal is omnipresent he can be everywhere if he wants. He's right hand of God's.
Zeno's level about high tier Celestial or Hungry Galactus hes not even strong as abstracts like Lord Chaos, Master Order, In Betweener, Master Hate, Mistress Love, Eon, Death, İnfinity, Eternity. Not even close to Living Tribunal or The Beyonder or Protege...
(Oblivion is far above this characters like he said everything is an illusion of him everything is made by him. And Oblivion created by One Above All... well its the real hierarchy of Marvel.
One Above All - Writer/ True boundless creator/ God of Marvel Megaverse.
LT is Nigh-Omnipotent/present/scient. Also Oblivion servers under the LT. Regardless every character mentioned is infinitely above anything in DB
Zeus Cronuson the beyonder is way stronger than obvilion who was stated to be stronger than all of marvel billions of times and lives outside of the marvel multiverse. In his own realm called beyonder he called all of marvel power a droplet Inna ocean compared to his power and universe so yeah no
@Gasper Vidovic wtf are you serious bruh he is everywhere and omnipotent and everything else
@Gasper Vidovic DafuQ!!!!!
@Gasper Vidovic When?
Living Tribunal is a beast.
Nah goku one shots
@@ultimatessj456 im sorry but its really sad that you think goku beats cosmic beings, are you a fanboy?
@@ultimatessj456 even geekdom admits living tribunal beats zeno and you still cant accept ignorance
@@bullwarrior67dragonite38 goku would kill anyone in Marvel.and DC. Have you ever heard of ultra instinct?
@@ultimatessj456 LOl i watched all of dbs u really think puny ui is gonna do something lmao watch the video i can tell u never read a comic in ur life. Do something for once and watch something other then dbs because ur fanboying is funny af. I dare u to post that stupid ass shit on reddit and comic vine watch how many people would laugh at u. Anyway good bye troll
My thoughts before watching the video
Living Tribunal is godly and would clearly clap Zeno's cheeks
@The Endless Cheek clapping is a pure Chad move. Hella strong.
Fauxwhistle 1909 but how does he win? He has more feats but how exactly would Zeno get killed? If Zeno can still survive a universe being erased what can really kill him. Even if he’s not omnipresent or nigh Omni Zeno still has a very incredible feat.
@Marlito World He wins because Zeno's a speck compared to him. All Zeno could do to The Living Tribunal is angrily glare before getting wiped from existence. The Living Tribunal is just that more powerful than him.
S.P.3518 yeah the living tribunal can do much much more but at the end of the day the biggest feat or worst thing you can do to someone is erase them right? This is something they both can do and I’m very sure Zeno survived a whole universe being destroyed casually. Yes one character can do more but it actually still is not clear how the other would win. For example; Every time beings with the power to erase universes etc face off against each other, the one who always wins is the one who can erase atleast 1 more universe than the other lol. to me it’s not a convenient way to declare a winner. Unless the living tribunal is the one that created Zeno or created his universe then how exactly would he win if Zeno is virtually indestructible to erasure? Yes living tribunal is nigh omnipresent and all that stuff but how does that really prove he can beat Zeno, When the whole idea of Zeno is he can’t be defeated no matter what. Even if he isn’t omnipotent or present.
@Marlito Zeno survived a universe being erased because he was the one to erase it in the first place. It's not like he'd hurt himself. Besides, you're thinking that just because these two characters can do the same thing (erase), Zeno is automatically immune to it. He's not. Zeno's not immune to a higher power, and The Living Tribunal is infinitely more powerful than him.
I'm going to put it in a different way. Let's pretend that Zeno is immune to being erased (which he's not if the being trying to erase him is more powerful, but let's pretend). The Living Tribunal could use his physical strength and pop Zeno like a grape. Any way you look at it, Zeno's dead.
Yeah... Living Tribunal all the way bro.
Off topic but Who created the Frieza Lightsaber animation?
You
Your mom
Dragonball Gods are kinda really weak compared to Marvel and DC Gods
Have you ever heard of Cthulhu Mythos? they are beyond op
eios 4 but they don’t compare to dc and marvel
eios 4 they don’t compare to dc or marvel lol but I think kami tenchi does but no where close to the one above all
Or the presence
@@RandomGirllol yes they do
Thinking about it, the Gods of Destruction are literally just martial artist who got super strength and super speed and can shoot energy blast etc. While Marvel and Dc gods can have the option to do the same exact shit but can create/erase Universes, realities, control time, control fate, travel through time, manipulate/change anything etc etc.
It's like comparing the Z fighters against multiple Zenos on steroids lol.
Even franklin Richards (A Kid) can beat Zeno
Isn't Franklin Richards the strongest person in the marvek universe? (The cowboy kid.)
Imperitus definitely not
@@xato-1 he means human franklin is a human
+Impreitus No he isnt. He's just one of the strongest mutants
@@johnsean122 fanboy
Man lemmme tell you something mann. i was hoping comics explained was apart of this video
Emet Jr Tapia same!!
Robs sexy voice
He had a fall out with all the power scale youtubers. He knows comics but doesn't really know how to power scale.
To hell with the power scalers
@@jwilsthem.c3780 "Superman is infinite" 😂😂😂🤣🤣😋
Power Scaling in fiction is like trying to predict who would win a wrestling match. Regardless of who you think should win, the writers can do whatever they want, and will most likely concentrate on the story being told rather than who should actually win. As fans, all we can do is speculate or complain when we disagree, but in the end, it's all up to the writers. As long as people are having a friendly discussion, I have no problems with it.
Theirs an eternity for ench universe in the Multiverse
These eternites are mare aspects of the Multiversal eternity who is himself a small aspect of the living tribunal
So the Multiverse only makes a insignificant portion of the living tribunal this Multiversal structure is shown to have infinite timelines universes and dimensions and the tribunal exists beyond that
I don’t really even know why this video was made. I’m not even really familiar with the living tribunal and even I know that he shitstomps omniking. Everyone already knows that he would win. Why was the video even made?
I love you Geekdom and I’m not trying to fault you or anything or say that you did anything wrong I just don’t know what purpose this video served
This video was made for the erratic fanboys who genuinely believe that Zeno's more powerful than he really is. That's pretty much it. Sadly, it still doesn't stop the more foolish individuals from arguing over common knowledge.
No, not everyone knows this.
There's actually people that think Zeno solos every fiction.
There are dumbfxcks who really think Zeno can win.
Same thing with future Thanos and Zeno, Marvel Comics are Littrally overpowered and the movie characters are weaker tho
Wayyyy weaker....
At best planet level
I’d love to see a movie with these abstract marvel entities, namely The Living Tribunal. I would geek over that movie 🤓
Sarah Barton can we sit and talk about the intricacies of marvel and dragonball thx
They could appear on future Marvel movies, maybe part 3 of the Guardians of the Galaxy or a new Doctor Strange movie.
I mean we got thanos who's on par with the cosmic entities with the gauntlet so it's possible. I'd say we see galactus before living tribunal
U know I’d love to see them in the movies as well but if any of the cosmic entities were to appear in the movies it’d just be ridiculous. Since it’d be ridiculous to scale them down if any of them were to appear in the movies but it’d also be ridiculous to keep them the same since the comic version are already so monstrously powerful what would any of the characters do if and when any of them appeared they’d be specks to them. So I’m kinda torn if I want to see any of them in the movies a nice reference/ name drop is always a nice I guess.
Shouldve been in this last Avengers film when some shouldve tried to intervene. Definitely should be in the next Avengers film. In MCU they basically allowed Thanos to do "The Snappening." But the writers arent exactly readers or fans..they're about merchandising, product placement. And pushing action/comedy with no real sustenance to the storyline.
iv been watching dragon ball for 8 years now and as a dragon ball fan living tribunal stomps sure zeno could destroy 12 universes just like that but the living tribunal has held mega verses and you may be wondering how big is a mega verse well its a collection of infinite universes so living tribunal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zeno its not even close srry zenny
Megaverses are collection of infinite multiverse. Infinite universes is the multiverse
Im a DBZ fan but the Living Tribunal would rek Zeno lol
Tony H no dumbass
Baked zeno is technically in DBS* so we’re both factually wrong. Lol
@Baked 😉
Normally one could tell when someone is talking about db or DB .
Yeah but we have 2 Zeno's.
@@eazylegend9614 you must be a fanboy you seem to be triggered by everyone saying zeno would lose
There's no debating it. There's no doubting it. The Living Tribunal would easily destroy Zeno. I've personally never seen Zeno do anything but erase things. And LT has a shit ton of feats. Zeno's a joke compared to the cosmic entity part of Marvel.
people sleep on how powerful characters in the marvel universe are and a lot use the movies as a guide, but nothing what we've seen in the movies even covers the upper tier of Marvel. Love the video
No cap
It's crazy how the strongest person to fight thanos was CAPTAIN MARVEL in the mcu.
Bruh
SENTRY
Silver surfer
Hyperion
Blue marvel
And even Franklin Richards would've DESTROYED thanos😂
@@chriss.249 Instantly bodied
@@thechristianteen9167
Big facts
Also stay prayed up out here fam🙏🏾💯
Tribunal summons omega tier celestials and get the job done, he's just too powerful to fight with zeno xD.
@@nurcahyadi7 he can wipe out a universe, yes but LT holds megaverses in his hands.
@kyoko kirigiri no problem bro.
@@nurcahyadi7 Zeno doesn't stand a chance.
Zeno is not even Eternity level
I'd make a argument that Zeno ain't even Galactus level lol....
@@blackshadexl you are dumb
In what sense?
Sorry you can't handle the truth fanboy.
@@blackshadexl Galactus has never destroyed a universal entity that could attack all space and time. Zeno did it in a snap lol.
Even before the video i knew zeno has no chance
Chris Williams same.
Same
(Y) same
same
Ikr TLT is overkill
TLT oneshots the verse
Epik zeno oneshot marvel verse
@@johnsean122
A kid capable of destroy a few physical universes vs guys who is infinitely larger than DB???
Man, read some comics...
@@johnsean122 the one above all
@@johnsean122 Other way around buddy
I like how db fans didn't get wild over it and just accepted fans unlike some one puncher fandom.
Living Tribunal destroyed Dragon Ball Universe!
Wait! According to Akira Toriyama Grand Priest is Outerversal🤗
@@marcopetrilli8594 hell no
@@marcopetrilli8594 Wow the wank is real
@@marcopetrilli8594LOL a Midget Angel who bows to a 4d creature is Outversal
Joke of the century
You can hear Geekdom screaming internally when Chuck says the word “canon.”
LT one shots the verse 💪
Jace OverHeaven zeno one shots marvel
@@johnsean122 i feel bad for you if you believe that😂😂
@@johnsean122
DBS fanboys need brains...
陳潔明 excuse me, are you talking to me, I need a brain ?? yes I have a brain at least I think rationally we're not talking about Goku vs Blablabla, but Zeno vs Blablabla and Zeno was a character with infinite power undefeated basically supreme god
@@johnsean122
Hasn't been defeated =/= cannot be defeated...
Cannot be defeated in one setting =/= invincible in all settings...
Beyonders >>>>> Living Tribunal prior to the Secret War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeno who has only been able to destroy universes...
Living tribunal > zeno thats childs play
mcBUFFfluff how Zeno can one shot
@@eazylegend9614 no living tribunal one shots
mcBUFFfluff nope
@@eazylegend9614 how ?
@@eazylegend9614 living tribunal has shown way better feats
everybody knows One Above All is the strongest
Hell no kid
@Itachi Is superior to you WTF
@@hafix7561 he not wrong itachi has kunais
@@zone8521 ramen guy > one above all
Azathoth: (waking up)
R.I.P. Lil Zenny. Pour one out for the homey.
*Pedophilia isn't allowed on RUclips ya know? Rip Zeno*
From my understanding (correct me if im wrong)
Zeno has only sver handled 18 universes with a different version of him in each. Meaning separate entities.
The Living Tribunal handles infinite universes and is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient in all of them as the same being.
I'm pretty sure The Living Tribunal wouldn't pay attention to Zeno.
And to think that Oblivion exists outside of TLT and TOAA outside of Oblivion it's crazy
the Christian teen you mean timeline, there is a different Zeno in each timeline not in each universe.
@@superstarlord8090 oh ok thanks. But TLT is the same entity in every timeline and universe right
TLT isn't full on omni but at nigh level on all 3. And since Oblivion exists in the void of nothingness, there's literally no way for him to be beaten, destroyed, or even erased because, he's literally already part of nothingness lol
@@mike90susanoo84 but TLT still beats Zeno
@@mike90susanoo84 but TLT still beats Zeno
Zeno doesn’t stand a chance.
Dam right like zeno is only 4D for destroying a timeline and the living tribunal is infinitely more powerful than anyone in dragon Ball super and can obliterate it with a thought
@@beaudennis1624 He is 3d but has 4d ability
Good lord for once I’m glad DB characters are way weaker, if they were that strong the show would be so boring
This is just insane.
Living Tribunal vs Zeno!!
Awesome!!
Living tribunal solos the composite franchise
Also i love the difference in appearance between lord Chaos and Master order
One looks like those drama masks with the cosmos on It
The Other looks like a angry decapited Lex Luthor
And they are supposed to be "brothers"
Besides even If they make dragon ball super stronger i doubt they Will touch higher dimensions that much
And 10:12 i love How everyone There is completely still, seriously looking that us to look badass, and then there is lord Chaos looking he is chewing a giant jawbraker while having a seizure
no composite franchise
because toribot
@@rudionto5862 Toribot got thrashed by a bunch of villagers in Dr Slump Manga
The Living Tribunal transcending time and space should be enough to stomp Zeno.
Zeno as far as I know it is eternal, but even he has his limits. For example the Living Tribunal could just outlive him since Zeno can only live until the 12 universes die and before so his child form is probably only 5 billion years old and he’s got like 200 billion years left to live and then he will die. The living tribunal will live for like 1,000 billion years and still be as powerful as his first day of creation and still have 50 billion years left to live. This only means Zeno might be inmortal, but immortality comes in different ways. We can say vampires seem inmortal, because they can live up to 500 to 2,000 years. One example Dracula who is at most 3,000 to 5,000 years old and still has like 1,000 more years left. Also for example Doomsday could seem inmortal since he’s got like 1,000 years under his belt and could technically live for like 50,000 more years. Thor has been living for almost 5,000 years and he can seem like an inmortal being too although he will eventually die in like 15,000 to 20,000 more years. Asgardians for the most part only live for like 10,000 or 15,000 years and then they die, but Thor is different so he can live up to 30,000 years. Superman Prime for example can seem inmortal but even he will die at around 3 billion years. Zeno might 5 or even 6 billion years old but even he will have to die
Lol easy w for tribal also chuck is one of my favs
Ps : toribot>>>>>>> zeno
DBZ and anime in general illustrate power levels in a more visually appealing way. Whereas DC and Marvel just explain what these characters can do but I've not seen one animated series or movie about them and their feats.
Most op Godlike marvel characters are in the comics
kab1r they do this because it is hard for the average viewer to imagine these concepts, like dimentional tiers, or beings so powerful that they can do almost anything.
I agree with your points. An explosion is easy to do for animators and DBZ power scaling is a simple concept. The whole time and space manipulation would be a cool thing to see in animated form. I sometimes think these OP characters were created with no decent storyline.
@@kab1r He says that, but literally every anime character is nothing but wishfulfilment and Power fantasy.
Franklin Richards created universe with no effort. Living Tribunal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Franklin
I don't really read the comics but a friend of mine told me that Zeno is more powerful than the Living Tribunal and he told me about how all the Zenos could kill the Living Tribunal like the Beyonders did.
Then your friend was bais.
Troll
Well your friend is a dbfanboy
Awesome colab between you two!!! Like to see more, keep up with the good work!!!
Living tribunal can beat any dragon ball Z character
@Leutnant M. OSSILP yes he can lmao
@@00Grimreaper00 He can't lol
@@jackour8167 yes he can did u guys even watch the video? lol
@@00Grimreaper00 I did lol.super shenron is limitless and will murder the living tribunal easily....
And we only saw Zeno like one year while the living tribunal was like 20 years.just you wait until Zeno shows a far better feats than the living tribunal and don't say "zeno is bounded by time so the living tribunal stomps"it's anime.everything is possible.
Stop I'm a db fan but super shenron is not limitless lol that a no limit fallacy beside all you have to do is destroy the super dragon ball which living tribunal could do easily just by looking at him and super shenron is gone yes you might be right zeno could be stronger than the living tribunal but until then zeno has proven that he is bound by time since there is 2 version of him and even if he wasn't bound by time the living tribunal is in a far higher dimensional plane then zeno. Zeno couldn't even track dypso speed and the living tribunal is nigh onmipresence he disabled the infinity gauntlet which grant the user nigh omnipotent abilities and zeno isnt anywhere near nigh omnipotent so the living tribunal would clearly shitstomp zeno and solo all of dragon ball without even trying
Toaa and other marvel cosmic entities are how gods should look like i dont know why zeno has an annoying and dumb design. Akira toriyama shit in character design when it comes to Gods from db
I agree. Living Tribunal and other gods have sleek designs. Meanwhile, WTF is zeno's design? someone was on something when they came up with that design.
@@hrnbrigade4991 honestly yes maybe he is childish that doesn't mean he should look like a baby
Beyonder is kinda acts childish and he is still looks like an adult even gods in ben 10 verse has better designs
@@goingtoregretthis3792 db gods still look like shit though.
@@hrnbrigade4991 Yeah, lazy design
i forgot his name but what about the guy that is the gardien of DC/Marvel that appears in the cross over comics?
Protoge solos Dbs
protege can even beat the living tribunal I would pick someone like gorr the god butcher vs zeno
@@noahdestroyer7978 he did
there are lots of powerful marvel characters that are way more powerful than zeno like the beyonders and the one above all
The Beyonder The Beyonder, cool name
@@hainguyn948 the beyonder and the beyonders are not the same the beyonder is just one person and the beyonders there a race of nigh-omnipotent beings who lives outside the marvel multiverse
I would love to see more videos like this ever so often, this is a really good video.
Both get soloed by beyonder and TOAA
Epic Style Gamer no toaa is fodder
@@eazylegend9614 I don't think you know who he is then
Current Beyonder isn't stronger than Living Tribunal.
Mark Jefferson he is
I think you meant to say the beyonders
Living tribunal bitchslaps Zeno so hard it zeno gets send back to start of the universe😂
Not just Zeno, the entire franchise
where can i reed these commics online for free i dont have access to them in eu
Living tribunal: *reality warps the db verse into a sub sandwich and gives it to GALACTUS*
GALACTUS: *pop* nicee
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO only to know that it was a dream of zeno 🤣🤣🤣
Tori-bot
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO another delusional Dragon ball fanboy from the dB Community, Zeno is 3D and has only destroyed 12 Universes using way way way way more than 1% of his power, LT deleted two megaverses effortlessly with only 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of his power which individually contains infinite numbers of freaking Multiverses in it, LT holds the DB multiverse and crush it like it’s a little tiny fly using 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% of LT power, DB is weak compared to the marvel universe, Sentry laughs at goku smacks his head off and solos all of dragon ball, ur verse is weak fanboy compared to marvel and dc. Stop living in a fantasy land.
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO characters that can literally delete the weak DB verse out of existence with just a look 👀 :TOAA
LT
Beyonder
Phoenix
Marquis of Death
Black Winter
Celestials
All Cosmic entities
Mad jester
Oblivion mere presence blinks Dragon ball
The one below all
There is hundreds of hundreds of marvel characters that will blink DB and don’t get me stated on dc, Go sit down fanboy
@SAUL ANTONIO-MALDONADO One Above All walks in and destroys the Dragon ball omniverse
I was thinking Zeno...but damn he would get destroyed
Lol
Zeno is pretty weak compared to marvel gods but op against the marvel heros honestly people can't really compare zeno to other godlike characters until we see him doing something like destroying a multiveres that only 12 unversive
There's Marvel heroes that can beat Zeno with prep. Like Mr Fantastic.
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s he probably find a way to scramble his inside or something with telportation and get zeno brain out side of zeno body but I think zeno would erase him before he can do that
Mr. Fantastic has beaten characters above Zeno. So you're wrong.
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s like who only person who comes to mind for me is Galactus
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s and I would put zeno above Galactus
Is this video from 2 years ago with that audio quality?
Living Tribunal wins by a Landslide... Hands Down..
So what ur saying is.....
GOD KING DOOM STOMPS zeno and erases both multiverses😫
Somebody call Mr fantastic to cuck him again!!!!😂
Well any Mr fantastic instead of the Dr strange 2 version
Great to see more Chuck here.
Zeno is not omnipotent lol Zeno just universes level
@@user-yu6vu8zz2i no
5:58 well living tribunal isn't as powerful as mm but still
Isn't zamalah technically stronger than zeno since he made the super dragon balls and the dragon balls reflect the power of it's maker and the super dragon balls have the power to destroy zeno and do literally anything.
1:50 zen did not destroy the multiversal after all DBverse only have 12 universes not even one infinite universe
Wtf you saying? There is no infinite universe there is infinite multiverse
@@infamouspotato2028 18 universe = infinite multiverse ?
What a joke
@@bluerocket5127 Uh what are you even saying? I said that there is no term like "one infinite universe" like you commented, there is either multiverse or infinite multiverse
Dbz has multiverse but not infinite
I wanna say The Gods of Destruction vs the Cosmic Entities but the G.O.D. would get wrecked
Love the video man! But hopefully next time you can have comics explained
The funny thing even mlp characters have multiversal feats
At this rate even smurfs are gonna have multiversal feats