Why $MSTR has been Smashing ATMs and not Convertible Bond Offers.

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @Paul-v2h
    @Paul-v2h 11 часов назад +9

    Spot on Forest...Folks MSTR has skyrocketed over the last two months a Stock cannot maintain that rate of appreciation each and every week...Think Medium-Long term PEOPLE!

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад +1

      In the long term , that's Not What Saylor is spouting on TV everyday.

  • @thomaschung9278
    @thomaschung9278 12 часов назад +10

    As true bitcoiners, we need to embrace this. Btc per share has gone up. So in bitcoin, the stock is up. Bitcoin = exit strategy

  • @billabongboy9510
    @billabongboy9510 12 часов назад +14

    Another great vid. There’s also a blackout period coming up for new stock issuance pre-earnings reporting period, so me thinks they are slamming the ATM prior to this and then going big on the converts.

  • @pitfour7396
    @pitfour7396 7 часов назад +5

    5 of the 6 converts are in the money big time. I expect those will be called in, so only a zero rate $3B bond is outstanding with zero backing. ATM could be exhausted this week, then 5 new converts issued to replace the called in bonds. Let QQQ run up the stock price next week, short hours, at higher strike prices. Cha-ching.

  • @richardstamp5068
    @richardstamp5068 3 часа назад +2

    In fairness to Saylor, why would he let the market know that he is buying same amount of BTC in three months rather than three years? Speculators would try to make money off of Saylor by front running his BTC purchases. Same reason developers buy the land before announcing the development. To prevent having to pay higher prices to speculators. What Saylor is doing makes business sense.

  • @Logan-Speaking-Facts-Again
    @Logan-Speaking-Facts-Again 11 часов назад +4

    Great video man. This is the first time I understood the delicate balance of Mstr doing atms vs convertibles.

  • @Rusty-Scalpel
    @Rusty-Scalpel 12 часов назад +12

    Dude you are brilliant why didn't I find you sooner.

  • @mariedavison3707
    @mariedavison3707 12 часов назад +41

    The price was 473 MSTR , when BTC was 98436 , Today is Microstrategy is 386 and BTC is 106,700 ... I can't tell you how happy I am losing all that money at Christmas, it's so refreshing, I just can't take it

    • @chensien75
      @chensien75 12 часов назад +16

      MSTR is maximizing bitcoins per share NOT dollar per shares until other states, companies willing to payout

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад

      @chensien75 I didn't sign up purchasing Microstrategy to be the host to the highest bidder in line , because he hogged all the Bitcoin, and used my $ to do it with , while making my funds drop like a rock , ultimate Crook!

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад

      @chensien75 plus when I sell microstrategy, do I get those funds , Try No

    • @Logan-Speaking-Facts-Again
      @Logan-Speaking-Facts-Again 11 часов назад +15

      Perspective is key. Mstr is up a 💩 ton over the last 2 years, 1 year, and even 3 months. Give it time

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад +1

      @Logan-Speaking-Facts-Again time ? Try misrepresentation class law suit

  • @SLPC_
    @SLPC_ 6 часов назад +3

    Subscribed, great content and even better channel name

  • @robt9043
    @robt9043 10 часов назад +3

    Sone good RUclipsrs are missing the mark on this point but you nailed it.

  • @beancounter2617
    @beancounter2617 2 часа назад

    Thankyou! Been looking for someone to explain this in simple terms. Subscribed.

  • @raymondblack3553
    @raymondblack3553 11 часов назад +2

    Good job Man! I’ve been watching your videos. Keep up the good work. Keep it simple and right to the point!

  • @123hgggmllvcc
    @123hgggmllvcc 4 часа назад

    Best channel out there. Very authentic and honest. Keep up the great work!

  • @gordonevans6143
    @gordonevans6143 7 часов назад +2

    I would assume that most of the people complaining are those who bought the stock more recently, I personally put over 50k into it the day before citron shorted it(mainly fomo). This has tested me a lot but after assimilating many hours of content about MSTR and trying to think rationally and not let my emotions take over I am not that worried. I am sure if I had invested a few months back, before it went up 200% I would not have initially been that worried. To think that this stock, that has outperformed most others, would stop doing so just because I invested in it, during a crypto bull market at that, would be insane. Its the volatility, its hard to get your head around, I think people need to zoom out, look at the last 3 months at least, not 3 weeks.

  • @mrvpowerleipzig1983
    @mrvpowerleipzig1983 24 минуты назад

    Once again, great explanation. Thank u. 😇👍

  • @akkiacmilan
    @akkiacmilan 3 часа назад

    Quite insightful and very well explained. Crisp yet clear. Thanks a lot

  • @UrR2KBA
    @UrR2KBA 5 часов назад +1

    Did we forget it was at $543?
    So it Doesn’t make sense. If he let it run up, he would have added a lot more BTC.
    His words “Volatility is the product”
    It wasn’t : let me dilute you every time the price is about to run up.

  • @thomaskrutulis2289
    @thomaskrutulis2289 10 часов назад +2

    Lol ppl have been spoiled stupid! Even 3 years ago 10% a year and 3% div rates were touted as good. If ppl don’t see 100% a month they cry. No discipline and no long term plan. All just trying to smash win to make up for years of being stupid. Tisk tisk. I personally love the discount and anytime it dives it makes those juicy premiums for put sells even sweeter!! Thank you
    To your points on mstr, I think there will be some atm blackout periods for them once officially in the qqq so perhaps he’s just trying to take advantage while he can. Last days of free for all anything goes for them in some respects.
    My .02

  • @younanentertainment5684
    @younanentertainment5684 7 часов назад +3

    Why michael dont make video about share price strategy 🤔

  • @patrickvandeputte6689
    @patrickvandeputte6689 4 часа назад

    Thanks for clear explanation. Well done

  • @brendonthomas2555
    @brendonthomas2555 Час назад

    Hold the line. We've been conditioned to think in USD fiat, not BTC, the appreciating commodity. MSTR's BTC per share HAS INCREASED! If you bought it on the higher side future USD appreciation will come just be patient.
    Some guarantees, Nasdaq 100 index reallocation buying has not yet hit, the appreciating effect of FASB fair value accounting has not yet hit, and future increases to BTC post inauguration has not hit! Finally, an enhanced balance sheet in 2025 can see S&P 500 inclusion. The result will be MSTR rocketing upwards! Patience is a virtue.

  • @389293912
    @389293912 9 часов назад +3

    It would be nice if Saylor told us this himself otherwise it just looks like a short attack but there's no press barage of bad news supporting it. He's supposed to be transparent. That's the appeal of Microstrategy. I'd rather put my money into Bitcoin directly or Tesla while he's "experimenting" with my portfolio. Every one of these dumps is damaging sentiment and in the end sentiment (trust) is what makes people invest in MSTR. Your ideas here are just a theory.

  • @ronatola
    @ronatola 9 часов назад +4

    OK, so I understand how the ATMs can drive stock price down with perceived dilution. But why does the stock tank when microstrategy announces that they’re buying billions of dollars worth of bitcoin? This has happened in the last couple of weeks. One might even expect that this would increase the stock price But instead it seems to have the opposite effect. I don’t mind it and I am in for the long haul, and I also bought some more today and leveraged my own debt in the way of a line of credit.

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 6 часов назад

      @@ronatola you are smelling the real coffee

  • @jaygang3589
    @jaygang3589 11 часов назад +2

    Good informational video. I can't stand all of this excessive dilution without them letting the share price run up a bit, especially when it's underperformed bitcoin. I buy microstrategy 2x leverage each weekly paycheck going long.

    • @shawnl3151
      @shawnl3151 10 часов назад +2

      Careful the 2x leverage is dangerous in chop - volatility creep. It’s meant for short term trading it will lose money if mstr goes sideways

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 10 часов назад

      ​@@shawnl3151what's Dangerous is Anything but Microstrategy Puts

  • @waterfrontfilms10
    @waterfrontfilms10 11 часов назад +2

    They've crossed the line, most definitely

  • @Eric-qm5xw
    @Eric-qm5xw 9 часов назад

    Exactly what I think ..spot on.

  • @grantmail4112
    @grantmail4112 4 часа назад +3

    This was the most clear and precise explanation that I have come across 7:05 Great vid!

  • @alternativa80
    @alternativa80 4 часа назад

    Subscribed! Very interesting content 🤓

  • @josephinewliu
    @josephinewliu 55 минут назад

    Once they reach their 21 + 21 billion mark they can do again. Why they can’t do it again and again.

  • @Coover90210
    @Coover90210 8 часов назад +2

    Don't measure your wealth in dollars. BTC per share is going up. That's all that matters.

  • @doinitforthestreets
    @doinitforthestreets 10 часов назад +2

    Great videos, thank you, I’ve been learning a lot from you. My thing as a relatively new MSTR investor is that Saylor has broken my trust. He said he’d do one thing and he’s done another. His company, like Tesla, is far more based on the personality and actions/integrity of the man in charge, compared to other companies. He’s honestly being an idiot by doing this to $15B of new investor inflows. It’s like he’s forgetting his investors are humans with emotions that need to make sense of the world, rather than feel abused/betrayed by him. It’s just a shitty way to treat people and makes me question his intentions about where his shareholders really stand in his overall vision. Are we just fodder for his BTC accumulation obsession, or participants worthy of respect? I’m on the fence now of whether he deserves my money, whether his stock goes up or down. It’s about morals, and for Saylor who is a moralist more than any other ceo/director, it’s confusing behavior to say the least, especially for someone that rails against the dilution of the USD money supply..

    • @guyhickson7332
      @guyhickson7332 9 часов назад

      Bro calm down! It’s a double edged sword. Just give it time. He can’t let the share price go up in a straight line. Zoom out and see the big picture. Read the room and realize this is a good accumulation opportunity for us long term investors. If you take a longer term view it will help you see the light. How are you trading this? I’m using covered calls and cash secured puts so I feel your pain!

    • @yeahbaby3239
      @yeahbaby3239 7 часов назад +3

      I wouldn’t consider him a “moralist” considering his history in the late 90’s. I agree with your point though. He said 21/21 over 3 years. Not true. People say he’s going to stop during blackout periods. I keep hearing that it was supposed to happen when he was notified about being included in QQQ. Not true. Now supposedly it’s going to happen when the QQQ redistributes. I’ve also read that isn’t true. What I’ve heard Saylor say, was that he’s going to keep buying and not stop. That makes me wonder and think what his motives really are. I feel he struggles with his company failing during Covid. I feel he’s possibly angry with the government. I feel maybe he legitimately might think he’s going to be the next Bank of America who knows… I also think he’s still figuring it out. I do know and I feel a lot of people would like some more transparency. And to follow through with your words. If you say 3 years and have a time frame, stick to it and if things change, communicate it. I feel there’s a lot of people that are against one another. “True bitcoiners” against microstrategy. Old microstrategy against new investors. Shorts vs. long. I think we all might get fooled and america under delivers on the expectations of committing to bitcoin.

    • @guyhickson7332
      @guyhickson7332 7 часов назад

      @@yeahbaby3239 at this point being transparent but not showing his hand is critical to being able to get the best price. If he broadcasts every move then the market will get ahead and front run causing the price to go up before he buys. I just try to keep dry powder ready for when it dips. It’s just psychologically easier to buy when it’s on the way up than when it comes down to us.

  • @RG-1045
    @RG-1045 10 часов назад +2

    Buy the dip

  • @georgiebestmanutd4746
    @georgiebestmanutd4746 2 часа назад

    I'm curious why no Options offered on BTC?

  • @darrenvance737
    @darrenvance737 5 часов назад

    Doing the 21bil in less than 3 months is one serious deviation to what was said on Oct 30. That’s the rub that’s ticking off some of his shareholders. What they are doing and I don’t care how you justify it is not being done according to the guidance given. If he isn’t careful he is going to himself a lawsuit over it.

  • @jman000011
    @jman000011 8 часов назад

    As of Nov 20th the MSTR has price dips. And underperforming BTc in past month . Dilution is too high and NAV is too low

  • @alexchan235
    @alexchan235 11 часов назад

    You are so awesome.Thanks.

  • @user-zz3nu2xr8w
    @user-zz3nu2xr8w 7 часов назад

    Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @entertainmentinternational1087
    @entertainmentinternational1087 5 часов назад

    Seems like he knows when to stop selling to keep the price in a range.. i hope it dont fall under 360.. getting worried... this nasdaq 100 inclusion is suppose to raise stock price i thought?

  • @AdventuresAtHome1
    @AdventuresAtHome1 7 часов назад

    Keep buying the dip!

  • @amarkmanpeters
    @amarkmanpeters 6 часов назад

    So many plebs smarter than Saylor suddenly. Take a deep breath. Coiled spring.

  • @needsthelight
    @needsthelight 9 часов назад

    If we have a large pullback before Saylor allows the stock price to rise enough many people will be sitting on mstr for years quite possibly. Isn’t the bitcoin yield per share the same weather I buy it now or wait until mstr plummets with the price of btc?

  • @paultichy3270
    @paultichy3270 Час назад

    So if bitcoin is going up while microstrategy stock is going down or staying constant then when bitcoin is going down, micro strategy stock will be going up? We need to make hay when the sun is shining Boys.

  • @389293912
    @389293912 9 часов назад

    Could just be money moving to Tesla, a much more standard equity.

  • @Solimen
    @Solimen 10 часов назад

    thx for multi lang audio

  • @JMB488
    @JMB488 7 часов назад

    Have you looked into where he could be forced to sell BTC at? How far under water can he go until his bond holders force him to sell? I imagine he will sell OTC, but that would cause some panic selling for sure.

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  7 часов назад +1

      The debt is unsecured. The bonds are long dated and issues far apart. All but one group of them are past the conversion price. if somehow Bitcoin and mstr share price massively reversed and the nearest one came do no longer at conversion price, mstr would still not have to sell any Bitcoin. They could raise money through atm if there's an mNAV premium, and/or raise more debt to pay off that debt and push the due date back waiting for Bitcoin and their share price to increase again. Their debt is really not a problem at all they have been very smart with the structure

    • @JMB488
      @JMB488 6 часов назад

      @@bitcoinnotcrypto Thank you for the reply

  • @jackputnam7378
    @jackputnam7378 9 часов назад

    It's Shorting plain and simple.

    • @389293912
      @389293912 9 часов назад

      Could be but the shorts are choosing a very unlikely time to do it, when Bitcoin is ripping and QQQ money is inbound.

  • @mariedavison3707
    @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад +2

    Last point , I like many people that have microstrategy don't need to be the source of Saylor s creative artificial balance sheet manipulation, I will have to take it as a Huge Loss, and spread that over my taxes, step back Hawk Tua

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 11 часов назад

      There is a new kid in town named Micheal Saylor

  • @wangjingyi300
    @wangjingyi300 11 часов назад +1

    What’s ur take on the fact that Saylor’s almost run through 3 year atm plan in a bit over a month?

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  10 часов назад

      I give my take in this video.

    • @Coover90210
      @Coover90210 8 часов назад

      He knows this is the last best time to get corn near 100k. When USA does sbr, and other nations fomo, it will be astronomically more expensive to buy.

  • @makigor
    @makigor 7 часов назад

    What you do with your videos that it cannot be loaded???

  • @JMB488
    @JMB488 7 часов назад +1

    I think he's going way too fast with his purchases. Saving some for the bear market would've been wise. Imagine if he keeps buying at $125-150k and BTC draws back to 50-75k in 18 months.

  • @mariedavison3707
    @mariedavison3707 10 часов назад

    The ATM must stop at some point Or MSTR will suffer the same fate as the Dollar . People love Bitcoin Because it has a limited supply , Yet MSTR can have an unlimited Supply??? Try NO

  • @treefiddy7072
    @treefiddy7072 12 часов назад +11

    I hope this is the last week of the ATM. People are getting really pissed.

    • @Rusty-Scalpel
      @Rusty-Scalpel 12 часов назад +2

      People in general need a longer term outlook. Blackrock and large institutions are still large holders of MSTR. I took advantage of these low holding prices by getting some call options 1 year out. So I have the option to purchase the same amount of shares in 1 year without having to deal with the short term crazyness.

    • @luffebassen
      @luffebassen 12 часов назад +2

      You are just another Moonboy not understanding game theory.
      Im a REAL investor and i am loving this!

    • @Jimo225
      @Jimo225 12 часов назад +2

      he wants the shorts to make money to attract more shorts then the squeeze will come

    • @treefiddy7072
      @treefiddy7072 11 часов назад

      @ They are close to running out of ATM. Game Theory Boy

    • @luffebassen
      @luffebassen 11 часов назад

      Then why are you crying?
      Go to a casino if you need a dopamine rush or put some money into Fartcoin like all the other moonboys.

  • @cjb0807
    @cjb0807 6 часов назад

    I thought this was a MrBallen video at first.

  • @growtimez
    @growtimez 11 часов назад

    haha it is a bitcoin rush!!

  • @Jimo225
    @Jimo225 12 часов назад

    when mstr goes up, name your video, Mstr is going BOnkers.

  • @alexdenlinger6870
    @alexdenlinger6870 12 часов назад +2

    Michael knows he won’t be able to do this once people stop buying the common and the NAV gets back to 1.. the game is unload as much paper as quickly as they can before that happens

    • @alexdenlinger6870
      @alexdenlinger6870 12 часов назад

      Imo, if you aren’t buying MSTR for a discount to NAV you’re probably getting ripped off.. someday it will trade at a discount to NAV if the volatility slows and the convertible bond arbitrage dries up, free money usually doesn’t last forever.

    • @luffebassen
      @luffebassen 12 часов назад +1

      @@alexdenlinger6870 Clearly you have not been doing your research on the business model and the demand side.

  • @Jimo225
    @Jimo225 11 часов назад +1

    Here's what' going to happen. saylor will max atms for the next 2 weeks to maximize bitcoin holdings. Then the last week of the year he's going to let the stock rip because he also wants his stock to show a massive yearly gaiin.

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  10 часов назад +2

      Possible! Pretty big news story and good advertising for future investors to see how well the stock performed

    • @389293912
      @389293912 9 часов назад +2

      It's not going to rip anywhere if he destroys sentiment.

    • @forthrightnight
      @forthrightnight 9 часов назад +1

      Agreed. I think we will get a nice holiday present from Mr. Saylor. Quiet the plebs and reboost the longs.

  • @mariedavison3707
    @mariedavison3707 10 часов назад

    MSTR issues 36 trillion tokenized shares and counting! You mean Those Shares will be highly valuable ? Doubtful!!!

    • @Leomarvinman88
      @Leomarvinman88 10 часов назад

      BTC yield lol. He is ATMing and the QQQ is going to buy the shares next week and then he will buy more Bitcoin. This will be Genius looking back - in before Strategic reserves are announced in 2025.

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 10 часов назад

      @Leomarvinman88 he is a dressed up Madoff , hopefully it will be an even exchange to free Ross Ulbricht

    • @Leomarvinman88
      @Leomarvinman88 9 часов назад

      @@mariedavison3707 whatever happened to you - I’m sorry, best of luck.

    • @Redbirds178
      @Redbirds178 9 часов назад

      So just short it then? Load up on puts.. Why complain of MSTR being a ponzi every two minutes? I get it Saylor is moving rather fast for the ATM buys, but the man is not an idiot so long term this benefits the company and its shareholders. If you can’t see that then move on.

    • @mariedavison3707
      @mariedavison3707 8 часов назад

      @@Leomarvinman88 luck? Try listening to this misguided channel is bad luck . And bad luck to future listeners

  • @brennensorah4656
    @brennensorah4656 9 часов назад

    How long do you think that he will suppress the price?

  • @theodorh.8687
    @theodorh.8687 7 часов назад

    saying i’m not doing the math and just seeing where momentum goes is funny to me. If don’t do the math on how much btc vs unit per share vs nav, then you are gambling on what the sheep are doing and not investing.

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  7 часов назад

      I've done the math on Bitcoin yield which is all I care about. I haven't done share price projections because I dont think it will help me predict a top

    • @theodorh.8687
      @theodorh.8687 6 часов назад

      @ hows does the yield on btc they generate work I’m a bit confused on that front?

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  6 часов назад

      @@theodorh.8687 it's a metric that stands for the increase of Bitcoin per fully diluted share

    • @theodorh.8687
      @theodorh.8687 6 часов назад

      @ is this a unit change of bitcoin / fd.mktcap or value change of btc (in usd terms) / fd.mktcap?

  • @mariedavison3707
    @mariedavison3707 10 часов назад +1

    Listen up people," No One is Explaining how the Unlimited Amount of Microstrategy will violate the laws of Economics. And the Supply and Demand and Not drop in Value !

  • @afara2000
    @afara2000 6 часов назад

    What would be the risk for MSTR stock price if we don't get federal strategic reserve bill passed coinciding with BTC and stock market correction sometime in early 2025?

  • @Dan-u3d
    @Dan-u3d 12 часов назад +5

    The reason MSTR has gone up in 2024 was pre election they weren’t doing ATM …then Saylor went into overdrive into the ATM…I can assure you that if he can continue with ATM and not do bonds for debt forget buying the shares and just by IBIT or BTC and u will make more money…how much is Saylor’s salary…is he taking a % of the ATM ..nobody knows…one thing to take into account..Saylor was convicted for cooking the books by the SEC and that’s why MSTR went to nearly zero…so once a conman always a conman …Maidoff would still be working if not for the financial crisis in ‘08…as they say ‘Fake it till you make it ‘or NOT …better have a parachute in case u plummet to the ground…by the way QUBT & RGTI have blown MSTR out of the water this year.

    • @bitcoinnotcrypto
      @bitcoinnotcrypto  10 часов назад +1

      Haha who knows you ask. Clearly not you! Look a little deeper into each point into each theory and point you mentioned here.

    • @mj_traveler4694
      @mj_traveler4694 10 часов назад +1

      Did you really say “convicted by the SEC”?

    • @389293912
      @389293912 9 часов назад

      I highly doubt this is malfeasance but if it's a strategy to improve price later I wish he'd tell us. Otherwise it looks like extreme shorting.