Almost all trucks in Britain during the time period that the RWS is set have couplings formed of chains. So there is slack in the coupling. Which needed to be managed by the locomotive crew, if they didn't control the slack especially going down hill. The wagons will push against the locomotive if the couplings aren't kept taut the combined weight could cause a run away. I hope I have explained that in way that it's easy to understand
20:03 you have to read another story to get why they were so upset, the manager would threaten to scrap Duke if they mentioned him. 50:17 again mentioned in another story, the standard gauge line helped get them out of Peel Godred. Also Nicole, Lauren, Julie and Katie are 4 of the Midland engines. 1:07:48 Sir Handel isn’t that grumpy in this continuity.
2:35 loool 😂😂 3:35 loool this whole monologue about Duck 12:15 😂 20:50 what it would sound like to combine their names😂 31:56 looool the shade (it’s true tho) 😂 47:53 loooool 😂
How the fat controller would know where Thomas is would be from signal boxes. Signal boxes where normally elevated manned boxes which controlled the signals and points. The boxes would have had telephones from this point, so it would have been an easy enough to ring each station or box along the line and ask has Thomas passed you yet.
And one more thing: the bulk of the story itself actually takes place in mid-late autumn, except for the beginning bit with Sir Handel and Peter Sam being found by Mr. Percival, and the last chapter where it's winter.
For me personally, there's a lot of appeal to the narrow gauge engines. Firstly, it's their size. Standard gauge engines are huge machines that you have to look up too, while narrow gauge engines are more eye level. So there's more of a personal, relatable aspect to them. Secondly, It's how they placed these small little engines in the grandest and most beautiful of sets, especially in S4; a visual metaphor for how the biggest adventures come in the smallest of packages. Thirdly, their personalities, they're all so likeable and unique from one another. Fourthly, all the lore and thought put into them, spanning over 150 years of history. As for being confused about the chonialogy of their episodes, I don't see how that would be an issue. There's a very clear order and a continuity to them, which they were mostly consistent with in home media releases. If it's an issue though, you could always just binge them like on Amazon.
I don't think I'd NEVER go back to the Island Swansong, but I don't think I'm gonna go back to it for a while. I heard the author doesn't want people to adapt their work, and this reading and reviewing is riding the line with that. I did WANT to do a proper video where I review the entire story, (I even had plans to either get someone to get footage for me, or just get it myself) but after learning that the creator doesn't want their stuff adapted...I'm thinking I'll leave it for now.
I would've commented on this earlier, but I got sidetracked with a lot of stuff both online and in real life. Now that I have the time, I figured I'd share some behind the scenes stuff, and hopefully give some insight into mine and Rachel's creative process. Originally, Four Little Engines and The Twin Engines actually were considered to be their own independent stories per the books, albeit Old Iron would've likely served as a cold opening to the former given this line: "The Fat Controller had sent Edward to the works to be mended." However, they ended up becoming a part of the same story, with FLE being the more light-hearted half and TTE the darker, more mature half, and yet I feel as though they both work as a juxtaposition to one another. Additionally, to paraphrase a comment by DanTheBlueTank66 in the first part, the individual storylines of Donald and Douglas' arrival to Sodor and Sir Handel and Peter Sam moving to a new environment showcase the respective bonds between the duos as they don't want to be separated, having known one another for years. Peter Sam and Sir Handel are safe and sound on the Skarloey Railway, albeit they still have demons to overcome, whereas Donald is fighting to protect Douglas against what's happening on the mainland in order to stay together. There are a few points in which one of the storylines impacts the other, most notably when Douglas is running late and Peter Sam, suffering from PTSD, lets his anxiety overcome him, leading to him leaving the Refreshment Lady behind. Another behind the scenes tidbit regards the Midi quintet - Nicole (MR 115), Johnson (MR 1142), Katie (MR 1121), Julie (MR 1528) and Lauren (MR 2000). Originally, they weren't in the first draft of the story, but after Rachel and I wrote up North Western Origins (which is on her page), we ended up including them to provide an explanation as to who else was working on the NWR outside of the main fleet. I mean, I doubt a railway the size of the North Western could've managed with just ten engines by the end of the 1950s in the books, with four of them on two branch lines (the Peel Godred being run by electrics, the Arlesburgh line seemingly abandoned by then, and the Kirk Ronan and Norramby lines unknown), three on the main line, two as utility engines and one serving as station pilot. (Bill and Ben are notwithstanding as they're privately owned.) The Midis have a mini-series dedicated to them called The Midi of No Where, which can be found in Between the Lines: Set 1 - to find it on FF.net, look up Hufflepuff Batboy (my account there) and you should be able to find it. They take up chapters 21-26, akin to the spring DVD releases of Series 17-20. Speaking of which, I never really thought to include scene breaks on DeviantArt as I'd assumed my readers would know where they were; they are, however, included on FF.net. After hearing your critique, I decided to include them on both websites for future stories from that point onward. Likewise, I'd also started to incorporate commas in sentences like, for example, "Porter said, defiantly." I probably won't go back to edit older stories in a similar fashion on DA, but rather, showcase some evolution in my writing. That said, both parts of your reading bring to light things I hadn't noticed before while writing. There's always room for improvement.
To add onto your point, Zack, Donald and Douglas were dealing with external conflict, in the fact one of them - most likely, Douglas - would be sent packing and ultimately to the scrapheap. Sir Handel and Peter Sam were dealing with internal conflict, and their PTSD from the Peel Godred project.
Tug mentioned on his S4 retrospective that Sir Handel was just older by the end. Didn't do much but figured that the point was some things never change. I suppose that's one way to look at it... CrovanWorks on DA (great discussions I could recommend), on his discussion with Peter Sam, mentioned their relation to be a bit toxic, PS says he's quite nice, Skarloey felt sorry. While I'm rather mixed on whether Diesel should redeemed, I do quite like this depiction of Sir Handel.
Irl if an engine stops suddenly or goes downhill, naturally the coaches/trucks behind it will push it or bump it. That is essentially what's happening in Thomas except they do it intentionally
Okay, and the seventeen engines are: 1. Thomas 2. Edward 3. Henry 4. Gordon 5. James 6. Percy 7. Toby 8. Duck 9. Donald 10. Douglas Then there's Bill, Ben - privately owned by the China Clay Works - and the Midland engines - Lauren, Julie, Nicole, Johnson and Katie. All together, that's seventeen.
I think your being slightly unfair to the writers for the technical information. Most people looking for this will have either have seen one of the tv shows or read the books and would know what a pannier tank is or a 652, as they would have seen the illustrations in the books or seen the characters on tv.
And in case you need a reminder, all the episodes from series 1-4 are shuffled around, I posted a comment about this in the previous video. Here's some FAQ docs.google.com/document/d/1fbDFkHIeC46aQG8twflJoVIoYMyc_5Hk16NZtt34ywA/edit#heading=h.116qn745dad6
It does! Donald & Douglas and Sir Handel & Peter Sam constantly lean on each other for support, and the other engines all prove that they are never alone in the grand scheme of things.
36:03 perfect writing for James
16:11 that’s Sir Handel’s whistle 😂
Almost all trucks in Britain during the time period that the RWS is set have couplings formed of chains. So there is slack in the coupling. Which needed to be managed by the locomotive crew, if they didn't control the slack especially going down hill. The wagons will push against the locomotive if the couplings aren't kept taut the combined weight could cause a run away. I hope I have explained that in way that it's easy to understand
47:35 I think maybe the trucks and coaches could either put on their brakes before putting them off or lurch forward a little with Springs
52:28 that’s what I thought too, Victor Tanzig is definitely a legend
20:03 you have to read another story to get why they were so upset, the manager would threaten to scrap Duke if they mentioned him. 50:17 again mentioned in another story, the standard gauge line helped get them out of Peel Godred. Also Nicole, Lauren, Julie and Katie are 4 of the Midland engines. 1:07:48 Sir Handel isn’t that grumpy in this continuity.
2:35 loool 😂😂 3:35 loool this whole monologue about Duck 12:15 😂 20:50 what it would sound like to combine their names😂 31:56 looool the shade (it’s true tho) 😂 47:53 loooool 😂
31:53 Is that a reference to Character Gallery Ep.8: Gordon’s Snowmachine?
How the fat controller would know where Thomas is would be from signal boxes. Signal boxes where normally elevated manned boxes which controlled the signals and points. The boxes would have had telephones from this point, so it would have been an easy enough to ring each station or box along the line and ask has Thomas passed you yet.
And one more thing: the bulk of the story itself actually takes place in mid-late autumn, except for the beginning bit with Sir Handel and Peter Sam being found by Mr. Percival, and the last chapter where it's winter.
For me personally, there's a lot of appeal to the narrow gauge engines. Firstly, it's their size. Standard gauge engines are huge machines that you have to look up too, while narrow gauge engines are more eye level. So there's more of a personal, relatable aspect to them. Secondly, It's how they placed these small little engines in the grandest and most beautiful of sets, especially in S4; a visual metaphor for how the biggest adventures come in the smallest of packages.
Thirdly, their personalities, they're all so likeable and unique from one another. Fourthly, all the lore and thought put into them, spanning over 150 years of history. As for being confused about the chonialogy of their episodes, I don't see how that would be an issue. There's a very clear order and a continuity to them, which they were mostly consistent with in home media releases. If it's an issue though, you could always just binge them like on Amazon.
That's just it. With this fanfiction, it completely rewrites the Series 1-4 chronology. I'm one of the co-writers, so I know what I'm talking about.
Hey man when you're gonna continue the island swansong
I don't think I'd NEVER go back to the Island Swansong, but I don't think I'm gonna go back to it for a while. I heard the author doesn't want people to adapt their work, and this reading and reviewing is riding the line with that.
I did WANT to do a proper video where I review the entire story, (I even had plans to either get someone to get footage for me, or just get it myself) but after learning that the creator doesn't want their stuff adapted...I'm thinking I'll leave it for now.
@@PlayDontPause I completely understand
I fully agree with you on the word repetition thing, it’s always bugged me. Great video!
I would've commented on this earlier, but I got sidetracked with a lot of stuff both online and in real life. Now that I have the time, I figured I'd share some behind the scenes stuff, and hopefully give some insight into mine and Rachel's creative process.
Originally, Four Little Engines and The Twin Engines actually were considered to be their own independent stories per the books, albeit Old Iron would've likely served as a cold opening to the former given this line: "The Fat Controller had sent Edward to the works to be mended." However, they ended up becoming a part of the same story, with FLE being the more light-hearted half and TTE the darker, more mature half, and yet I feel as though they both work as a juxtaposition to one another. Additionally, to paraphrase a comment by DanTheBlueTank66 in the first part, the individual storylines of Donald and Douglas' arrival to Sodor and Sir Handel and Peter Sam moving to a new environment showcase the respective bonds between the duos as they don't want to be separated, having known one another for years. Peter Sam and Sir Handel are safe and sound on the Skarloey Railway, albeit they still have demons to overcome, whereas Donald is fighting to protect Douglas against what's happening on the mainland in order to stay together. There are a few points in which one of the storylines impacts the other, most notably when Douglas is running late and Peter Sam, suffering from PTSD, lets his anxiety overcome him, leading to him leaving the Refreshment Lady behind.
Another behind the scenes tidbit regards the Midi quintet - Nicole (MR 115), Johnson (MR 1142), Katie (MR 1121), Julie (MR 1528) and Lauren (MR 2000). Originally, they weren't in the first draft of the story, but after Rachel and I wrote up North Western Origins (which is on her page), we ended up including them to provide an explanation as to who else was working on the NWR outside of the main fleet. I mean, I doubt a railway the size of the North Western could've managed with just ten engines by the end of the 1950s in the books, with four of them on two branch lines (the Peel Godred being run by electrics, the Arlesburgh line seemingly abandoned by then, and the Kirk Ronan and Norramby lines unknown), three on the main line, two as utility engines and one serving as station pilot. (Bill and Ben are notwithstanding as they're privately owned.) The Midis have a mini-series dedicated to them called The Midi of No Where, which can be found in Between the Lines: Set 1 - to find it on FF.net, look up Hufflepuff Batboy (my account there) and you should be able to find it. They take up chapters 21-26, akin to the spring DVD releases of Series 17-20.
Speaking of which, I never really thought to include scene breaks on DeviantArt as I'd assumed my readers would know where they were; they are, however, included on FF.net. After hearing your critique, I decided to include them on both websites for future stories from that point onward. Likewise, I'd also started to incorporate commas in sentences like, for example, "Porter said, defiantly." I probably won't go back to edit older stories in a similar fashion on DA, but rather, showcase some evolution in my writing. That said, both parts of your reading bring to light things I hadn't noticed before while writing. There's always room for improvement.
To add onto your point, Zack, Donald and Douglas were dealing with external conflict, in the fact one of them - most likely, Douglas - would be sent packing and ultimately to the scrapheap. Sir Handel and Peter Sam were dealing with internal conflict, and their PTSD from the Peel Godred project.
Not completely through it, but Mr. Starr is a nod to one of the Mr. Conductors.
Isn't he the marine captain from TUGS?
@@lokomotion726 that is purely a coincidence.
alright
Tug mentioned on his S4 retrospective that Sir Handel was just older by the end. Didn't do much but figured that the point was some things never change. I suppose that's one way to look at it...
CrovanWorks on DA (great discussions I could recommend), on his discussion with Peter Sam, mentioned their relation to be a bit toxic, PS says he's quite nice, Skarloey felt sorry.
While I'm rather mixed on whether Diesel should redeemed, I do quite like this depiction of Sir Handel.
Irl if an engine stops suddenly or goes downhill, naturally the coaches/trucks behind it will push it or bump it. That is essentially what's happening in Thomas except they do it intentionally
BTW, if you listen to the Skarloey railway theme by Mavis M at 0.25 slower it sounds like skarloey gallantly bringing his passengers home.
Amazing!
Railbronymedia and TobyandMavisForever worked on more stories on the series as well.
You bet we did. Never Be Alone is part of a massive timeline reshuffle.
Okay, and the seventeen engines are:
1. Thomas
2. Edward
3. Henry
4. Gordon
5. James
6. Percy
7. Toby
8. Duck
9. Donald
10. Douglas
Then there's Bill, Ben - privately owned by the China Clay Works - and the Midland engines - Lauren, Julie, Nicole, Johnson and Katie. All together, that's seventeen.
I personally am not a fan of this story, but you did a good job reading it.
nice
That Scottish accent XD
I think your being slightly unfair to the writers for the technical information. Most people looking for this will have either have seen one of the tv shows or read the books and would know what a pannier tank is or a 652, as they would have seen the illustrations in the books or seen the characters on tv.
And in case you need a reminder, all the episodes from series 1-4 are shuffled around, I posted a comment about this in the previous video. Here's some FAQ docs.google.com/document/d/1fbDFkHIeC46aQG8twflJoVIoYMyc_5Hk16NZtt34ywA/edit#heading=h.116qn745dad6
I'm surprised you thought of Jonathan Starr rather than... I don't know...
*RINGO STARR*
That's exactly what we were going for.
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QUIT SAYING THAT.
@@thomasandfriends6616 E
The name, "Never Be Alone" has nothing to the story.
It does! Donald & Douglas and Sir Handel & Peter Sam constantly lean on each other for support, and the other engines all prove that they are never alone in the grand scheme of things.