What actually happened: the jacobite army was devastated by musket fire and canister shot while charging across the difficult terrain. Cumberland's left was briefly penetrated but the scottish jacobites routed fairly quickly. 50 royalist troops died, compared to thousands on the jacobite side. And nobody stopped to have a conversation during the fighting.
It wasn’t devastated by canisters, in fact the artillery played a minor part, most casualties on the Jacobite side was through musketry, Barrells regiment bore the brunt as the Jacobite right wing smashed into it, about 1000 dead on the rebel side, most of these dying days later, lying on Drumossie moor, despatched then, either with bayonet or the brass plate of a musket to the skull, brutal isn’t the word…talking to each other? I’ve no idea, this is a drama after all! I laid some heather on my ancestors grave (Fraser) last week, when I was up in Inverness visiting my mum.
Not to mention Cumberland stationed a light infantry company to the right oblique of the regiment to take the highlanders in flanking fire when they made contact. Also, common mistake, but, the English fired in platoon volleys at that time. It was easier to control the firing and a steady rate of fire would still be delivered by the regiment.
@@johnjoefitzpatrick8483 Well, the historical records mention 27 dead soldiers, but who knows, how many died of the wounds? And besides, all the records could have been propaganda, after all, the MacDonalds never made it on the left flank, but the Camerons actually came to grips with the English soldiery, so there must have been a lot of dead and injured, the work of a broadsword is qutie horrible, when it comes to that
@@johnjoefitzpatrick8483 And there's more to it. The MacBean chief was fighting against the pursuing soldiers, after the battle was technically over, killing about 12 or 15 men, before he was overwhelmed. So did the MacGillivray chieftain, the redcoats trampled his body into the mud out of anger, because he killed so many of them, just standing back to a wall, repelling attacks with his broadsword. So yes, the casualties among english soldiery must have been much more, than they claim
1:35 I've seen rocks, sticks, bars, knives and guns or whatever the character find near him while being strangled, but smacking your enemy's head with grass is a whole other level
The funniest bit for me was that guy at the start like 'we need the government troops to come to us!' Like, what? They have guns, and you don't, you buffoon. You want to stand there with your sword while they march at you 'continuing' to shoot?
Dude just ran across a field, got a bayonet in him, had a one on one grapple with another guy, fought a bunch of others, got his leg slashed open and he still manages to overpower an uninjured guy who just got off his horse. My ass.
This is one of the few battles I could actually see it being the case, truthfully. If the British soldiers have muskets with bayonets and the Scottish highlanders have shortswords and targes, it would be in the interest of the Scots to get in close and do man on man rather than fight in formation, the British would have a massive reach advantage with what are basically spears.
@@TheCommunistColin I like your thinking, but historically this wasn't the case. During the battle of Culloden, on the Government force's left flank was where the Highlanders actually reached their ranks; on the right flank they just shouted and fired their pistols. At the left the Highlanders charged in but the Government forces had just employed a new bayonet drill to counter the target-sword attack, whereby every man would attack the opposing Highlander to the right of them, hitting their exposed area (assuming they were right-handed). This turned out to be somewhat effective on the extreme left, but, after a struggle, the Highlanders began to divide one of the the Government battalions on the left (I think was the 4th foot) and the reserve came in to support. This resulted in the complete opposite of this clip: soldiers bunched together in a massive heap, struggling to lift their weapons. I read a book called "The '45" by Christopher Duffy which describes the scene a lot better than me. :)
@@coocah also what I dont like about these films...if there's a line of soldiers with bayonets raised, there's no way you can jump onto them and break their formation...it's like jumping on spears...wtf...in reality they would stop and try to hit each others, not JUMP onto each others lol Bayonets were really effective in melee, in films its always worthless for some reason
In reality the Jacobites charged and the Hanoverian forces all stabbed the highlander in front of the man to their right and the Scottish line collapsed.
@@lhd4278 Done properly can mean many things to many people. If it was meant to be a representation of a historical battle, it was done ok. If it was meant to show the battle of Culloden, it's pretty bad.
On the 11th Feb 1824, The oldest surviving Jacobite Auld Dubrach died at the age of 110 in Braemar. He fought at Pestonpans, Falkirk and Culloden. He was taken prisoner to Carlisle castle where he escaped and returned to the Highlands on the run with a price on his head. He was never recaptured. His funeral was attended by 300 people who drank 4 gallons of whiskey before his coffin was lifted. A hero and a man of honour to the last.
A couple of observations. Apart from a brief breakthrough on the left, which put the Jacobites right into the rear rank fire, Cumberland's combined English, Welsh, and Scots formations did not break ranks. Also, by so doing, they bayoneted the man to their side, not to the front. This was a direct copy of the Roman legions.
in all hollywood battles the hero just stands at the centre of a mass of milling men running past in all directions and then kills people as they take it in turns to attack him one at a time (as he also has radar of some kind)
@@brysebarnes6307well, plenty of Americans on the internet still believe culloden was Scotland vs England. Which leads me to believe most of them are gullible.
I visited the battlefield a few years ago and admit I wasn't too sure there would be anything to see. After all it is just a field. We walked the field where the charge took place with all the little stone monuments and the "well" where many died. It was very inspirational. Since my background is English and Scottish it was particularly meaningful.
It is an eerie landscape, especially after the goats have munched away the excess follage. Mass Clan graves are thought provoking and a sense that something sinister took place here has your hairs on end. Defo expose yourself to the Visitor Experience and ditch forever this romantic notion that it was a Scotland vs England conflict.
Why was it meaningful? It wasn't Scotland vs England. It wasn't Scottish vs English. It was British Stuart royalists vs British Hanoverian royalists. Only meaningful if you are a royalist.
My direct ancestors, the MacKintosh clan of Clan Chattan, fought at Culloden. Of all the clans, the MacKintosh suffered the worst casualties, as reflected in the fact they have three mass grave markers where most clans only had one. In 2013, I went to Culloden with my father and it was an almost surreal experience. The visitor centre is one of the best I have seen, presenting both sides of the story. The battlefield itself was….eerie. They use flags to demarcate the positions of the respective armies. I distinctly remember standing at the spot where men had fought and died. It was a cold, foggy day as well, creating an almost unnerving atmosphere.
My wife is also a Mackintosh, descendant of Moy ancestors. Their story on the lead up to their demise on that bogey moor is one of female manipulation of serfs to switch allegiance while the Clan Chief was a serving Redcoat officer. n.b. It's always cold n misty on the Moor.
Something that a lot of people fail to realise is that the jacobite revolution is not a war between England and Scotland, it's between the government and the jacobites. My ancestor Lord Duncan Forbes owned Culloden and the surrounding area via birthright, he chose to fight on the government side knowing the government would win. If Duncan chose to fight with the jacobites and lost, the clan would be disbanded. I've been in Culloden myself and walked amongst the graves my ancestor payed for and buried his fellow Scots in. I felt the heavy and costly choice my ancestor made to keep my family alive. Not everyone on the government side was "just another redcoat loyalist" there were Scots in those ranks making the difficult decision to kill their neighbors, and brothers to keep their lordships and later fight against the 1746 dress act.
It very much was Scotland vs England. The low land traitor Scots chose land, title & money to fight against their own. And if if wasn't Scotland vs England then why was there an ethnic cleanse attempt of Scotland? The highland clearances, the outlaw of Tartan, bagpipes & our native language?? Still not sound like England v Scotland?? Just as Burns said " bought and sold for ENGLISH gold. A parcel o rogues" Down with the Union.
Mel Gibson doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good story, like the historical inaccuracies of the William Wallace fantasy flick, or his Jesus Christ snuff movie.
Do some actual research and u will find out that there was french Spanish Dutch and many more Nations in that fight but the lying history makers won't tell u that !!!!!!!!
This is hilarious. The Highlanders were massacred in just under an hour with few losses for the red coats who consisted of scots and Irish as well as English: 300 dead and injured redcoats and almost 2000 highlanders killed wounded or captured.
It seems the mythology of the Jacobite rising of 1745 still persists, such as the last battle battle between Scotland and England, however, it was actually a civil war, between the deposed the House of Stuart and the then current House of Hanover. Most of the Jacobite soldiers were not motivated by Scottish patriotism, they were levied by their landlords to fight in the rebellion, and there were many Scots and Irish that fought with the redcoats. Culloden also had elements of the French army's Irish Brigade and Royal Ecossais, they fought a rearguard action to give the routing Highlanders time to escape, despite Jacobite valour, they were outmanoeuvred, and suppressed by concentrated firepower, but I guess you can't write pretty stories about the reality of battle, as gallant soldiers fought on despite loosing the war.
the Irish Picquets seeing the battle lost did stand letting many Rebles escape but going on the dead of Cumberlands army they must have fired over there heads the Redcoat Dragoons went at the gallop for easy victim's of the fleeing enemy .
According to the history books, the Highlander Scots' biggest problem was the big, hefty man leading the English, the Duke of Cumberland. The Scots faced an Englishman with inborn military ability and foresight. Analyzing the Scots' classic, Highlander Charge, Cumberland realized the solution would depend upon two things: an innovative tactical response and increased formation discipline to apply it. The good thing was that the typical English redcoat was already trained to use his bayonet musket as an effective pike. The trick was how better to use it. It took strong discipline, teamwork, esprit de corps and great faith in a redcoat soldier's comrade to his left and right because if either faltered, the soldier in the middle would take a Scottish claymore heavy sword down his skull. Cumberland retrained his English redcoat soldiers to strike out with the bayonet NOT at the Scotsman in front but to the Scot on the right, aiming for his armpit as he held up his Scottish claymore or other sword. Anyone who studied martial arts knows the armpit is a center of vulnerable nerves. A powerful strike to any armpit can collapse the victim. Penetrating with a sharp object was likely to be fatal. Missing the armpit was okay. The redcoat would stab the right side, almost as vulnerable. The history books say the new tactic worked at Culloden. The English did their typical, classic, staggered row firing, first row, second row as the Highlander Scots came within range. Smoothbore flintlock muskets of the time were not effective past 80 yards, although the musket ball would travel considerably further than that. Once past 80 yards, the charging Scots gave the English no further time to reload and fire past two or three volleys. Remember the practical battle reload and fire rate of a smoothbore flintlock musket was only three shots per minute. The charging Scots would be upon the English in seconds. The first two or three English volleys cut down a number of Scots making the next tactic a little easier. The Scots warriors raced to the English redcoat front line and as expected had their right arms raised ready to hack down. Most people are right-handed. The re-trained redcoats did their thing, stab the Scotsman to the right under his armpit or his right side. The video proves what really happened was a huge chaotic mess, as typical melee battlefield combats were at the time. But enough of the innovative tactic caught the Scots by surprise and their charge faltered, allowing back ranks of redcoats to reload and advance, firing, cutting down more Scots until they were forced to break and run. The rest is history. Scotland had finally fallen in practice despite already being united with England and Wales in 1707. The English overlords were harsh in the aftermath and several Scottish clans and their tartans were proscribed. Even though Culloden did not represent Scotland versus England - it was a rebellion led by an exiled Stuart pretender to the English Crown - it will always be remembered as the glorious last stand of the Highland Scots.
@traditional arts Yes, I read this in the history books. At least one was a British historical account. Of course, as you say, it might be historical English propaganda to demonstrate the military prowess and might of England over Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. But I wouldn't know. I read about Cumberland's innovative training technique in several military histories. His innovation was credited more for restoring confidence and morale in his men. Before Cumberland took command, the English government forces in Scotland were demoralized by the frightful Highlander infantry charges, which took advantage of the slow reloading time inherent in flintlock muskets, at best, three shots a minute under realistic battlefield conditions. The Roman legions applied similar tactics against the taller, bigger, stronger Germanic tribal warriors. Legionaries didn't fight one-on-one. They were trained to fight as a group. So if you could help out your buddy on the right by stabbing the German warrior in his armpit or side as he raised his sword against your right-side buddy, all the better. The same for Cumberland's men. True, it wasn't orderly as you say. It was probably all chaotic. But it must have worked on some level of success. The Highland charges were broken and repelled by Cumberland's redcoats. The rest is history.
@@malkavianstr450 Indeed he was. Duke of Cumberland would be today what is called, a 'second-generation' citizen. He would be raised as an Englishman and pretty much immersed in English culture to think like an Englishman and speak like one. But since his father was a first-generation emigrant to England, Cumberland had one foot in his father's German culture. Cumberland would probably at least understand his father, King George II, speaking in German, even if Cumberland couldn't speak German. But almost always, a second-generation citizen can speak the language of his first-generation emigrant parents, even if he or she is far more fluent in the language of the adopted nation. The United States was chock full of millions of second-generation Americans who proudly identified themselves as Americans, acted and spoke like Americans, yet could converse more or less fluently in Italian, Polish, German, Chinese, Japanese, et al, with their parents. Usually by the time of the third-generation, that bilingualism is lost as the third-generation is fully immersed as Americans.
You forgot to mention the 5 Scottish Regiment and 1 Irish Regiment that were involved in the battle. And the fact the Scottish force at Culloden had Infantry and Horse that failed to charge because they cowered away. The charging Scots usually relied on Muskets in a majority of their battles. And the ones who ran with swords were no match for bayonets. Hence why the Scots were mowed down at Culloden. And why the Highland clans are dead and will remain dead, forever. Good Riddance.
i had the chance to go in 2017 to the Culloden battlefield as well as a museum near inverness. Wonderful memories !! I am French and I will return for sure because there is so much to see in your beautiful country!
A big thank you to you for having concentrated all these scenes in one! When you know the story and you are a fan of the series, it is a pure pleasure to see these images of the Battle of Culloden with Murtagh, Jamie, Randall, whatever the outcome ... is all the more moving !
its funny how many people think it was the highland clans versus English army division when in actual fact it was majority of Scottish divisions with 1 or 2 English for support.
@Tactical Aioli ahahahahahahah your comment makes me think you dont know the fact that scotland had a wee empire of its own and tried to colonise the Americas before our scottish king made the union so shut the fuck up
This battle was over before it even started, cannon and musketry against claymore's and shields', a well disciplined British Army. Many people have a romantic view of this period in Scottish history.. reality is a vast majority of Scots hated these Highlanders if they were not stealing from lowland sheep farmers they were fighting amongst themselves. Final joke is the romantic pretender ran away with his tail between his legs dressed as a peasant woman never to be seen again, many Scots died unnecessarily because of this fool.
And the Bonnie Prince found it more necessary to have his 26 part silvercoffeeset with him. than to order good equipment for his Highlandfigther because his irish advisor told him the Highlander owe him loyalty and have to fight for him without question.
Correct, he was just a weak feeble minded fop, the 'Speed Bonnie Boat' mawkish tune was dreamt up later totally to sanitise the reputation of a mincing no mark who scuttled back to Italy.
What strikes me about the 1964 BBC documentary on this battle is the way that Cumberland's army marches onto the field like they don't have a doubt in the world as to the outcome, and they're enjoying making the Jacobites wait a bit.
The Jacobite Army had marched back from Derby to Culloden it would have been pretty obvious to any commander that they would be tired, hungry and depleted. I'm guessing Cumberlands confidence was also related to the fact He had a tonne of Canons. Dont think the Jacobites had many guns at all. It was a modern army versus an outdated Highland charge.
The Outlander series does depict the Scots as losing Culloden. This clip is labeled somewhat misleadingly. See the full episode for the proper context.
Having read the comments, it's good to see that I'm not the only one under the impression that the British (Lowland Scots) won the battle. Bloody difficult to tell from this version.
@@D0nnyy lowlanders were more loyal to king George than King Charles because the majority of lowlanders were protestant and would've preferred a protestant king. Its the reason the majority of Britain didn't fight for charles despite him being the rightful king.
@@D0nnyy It was the House of Stuart Vs the House of Hanover. Yeah, the House of Hanover! That's right the Germans that Queen Elizabeth II and King Charles III are direct descendants from.
This is like a re-creation of Pickett's Charge in which the camera focuses ONLY on Armistead leading a few hundred men over the stone wall and into hand-to-hand - and they leave out the fact that there were THOUSANDS of fresh Union troops in reserve waiting to counter-attack against any breakthrough.
Yes, well, that IS the single most dramatic moment of both battles, right? The piercing of the enemy position, and the hand to hand fighting that results from it. The "high water" mark. It's definitely the part one would most *want* to put in a movie. Everyone knows the final result. Lee was badly beaten at Pickett's Charge. The Jacobites were badly beaten at Culloden. But they both had their brief moment of direct hand to hand "contact" with the army they were fighting, and that makes for a damn exciting scene, doesn't it? What movie producer would not want to focus on that? Furthermore, they did show in "Outlander" the savage beating the Jacobites took from Cumberland's long range cannon fire and closer range musketry...and they showed the disastrous aftermath of the battle too, from the Jacobite point of view. It was all made quite clear.
The vast majority of the Scots fighting with the Red Coats were from Clan Campbell - the historic enemy of virtually all the other Highland clans. Most clans not supporting the Jacobites simply abstained (e.g. Mac Leod) . To call it a British civil war is open to conjecture given that no English or Welsh fought with the Jacobite army and virtually all the Jacobites were Scots (except 300 Irish Piquets ) even from as far south as Kilmarnock (Boyd's) and Edinburgh (John Stewart volunteers).
@@beinnnabhfadhla6457 That's not true, there was four Scottish battalions, one was the Highland regiment and not all of them were Campbell's although about 45% were. But there were actually several other clans, that fought in the government army including Clan Sutherland, Clan MacKay, Clan Ross, Clan Gunn, Clan Grant. The majority of Scots were actually Lowlanders who fought in the government army. You're also wrong about saying no English fought with Bonnie prince Charles's Jacobite army, because there was the Manchester regiment that took part, some were holding Carlisle, while a detachment went to Culloden and fought.
Am a big fan of the series and was actually thinking that the battle should have been separate when I was watching it. This scene would have been the British left flank that was engaged in the battle with hand to hand fighting. This was actually mainly Scot on Scot. So thank you so much for putting this together 👌 I can sleep a bit easier !
Regarding the cannon explosions: showing the real effects of 4-9 pound solid shot would've been much more terrifying than the big "patriot" explosions. Explosive rounds were rare at this time and were more reserved for sieges.
Three pounders. Ten of them. Firing solid shot then canister and grape shot at 200-300m. Coehorn mortars used at some point which would have exploded. All of it would be fairly worrying...
Funny that you mention "Patriot", since it does include, in one battle scene, a very realistic portrayal of solid shot hitting a man. Though they only showed it bouncing across the grass and removing a man's leg below the knee with no noticeable reduction in momentum. I seem to remember a couple movies where a flying cannon-ball decapitates someone - I think this happens to Matthew Broderick's Regimental commander at the beginning of "Glory". They didn't show something like a cannon-ball hitting a close-order infantry column and flying down a file to strike several soldiers in the torso, with spectacular (and grotesque) effect. Firing solid-shot, a cannon is essentially akin to a giant musket firing a giant musket-ball. I mean, humans are 60% water. We don't offer much resistance to a solid ball of iron that weighs anywhere from 3-12 pounds (or even more), and which is traveling at least 800 feet a second! The cannon-ball doesn't need to explode - on impact, the humans explode. I did alot of American Civil War reenacting in the past, and I have a (reproduction) cannonball for a 12 lbr Napoleon. (One of the artillery units was selling them as a fund-raiser to finance a new cannon, LOL) To demonstrate to people what it was capable of, I would hold it in my hand, extend my arm at shoulder height, and drop it onto a brick. The brick would be shattered by the impact. I would say, "Now imagine a two and a half pound charge of gunpowder has launched this 12 pound ball of iron out of a cannon 1200 yards away, and its traveling toward you at 1400 feet per second. And instead of hitting a brick its hitting a building, or the wooden carriage of a artillery piece, or...you. One of the most accurate portrayals of grapeshot/canister ever filmed (that I know of) was in the 2019 Russian film "Union of Salvation" about the "Decembrist" uprising in 1825 Russia. See the link: (be warned - its brutal). ruclips.net/video/Ww5yYZXgZZA/видео.html The movie also includes a very accurate Napoleonic cavalry charge where the horses trot, then gallop in A LINE - KEEPING FORMATION! (Instead of the usual wild chaos we see in movies, where it looks like the horses are racing each other).
I still remember the 1960's documentary showing the Duke's artillery tearing the waiting Highlanders to pieces, with their terrible cries of pain and helpless looks. Hungry, tired men led into a situation where courage couldn't help them against "modern" weapons. My interest in Scottish history dates back to seeing that film when I was 12 years old.
Basically it was English regiments (and Clan Campbell) - the addition of the latter is why it's generally termed British. The Jacobites were basically Scots with some Irish and French.
@@13141Scott well not most. but there were certainly more Scots fighting on the govt side than the rebels. the catholic highlanders were there under feudal duties , whereas the British army were all volunteer professional soldiers. the Campbells brought their clans to the field on the govt side. the Italian fop Charles was fighting on behalf of his father , as indeed was the Duke of Cumberland, who was an able commander who marched with his troops rather than rode , as was more usual for officers .
The english outmanouvered the Scots at Culloden and many were killed by friendly fire in the smoke covered battle field and confusion. The professionalism of standing armies told the story as The British Empire was becoming a well oiled machine by this time. And innovations in bayonet drill overcame the Targe and broadsword at close quarters.
Another one that doesn't know his history, It was the British army at Culloden supported by Hanoverian mercenary's against the rightful air to the thrones son. The myth about bayonet drills has long been debunked, Maybe the fact the full Jacobite army wasn't present, most of them had been up all night and hadn't been fed, plus they stood to take cannon fire for a full 30 minutes didn't help much. Plus the fact they had to charge over boggy flat ground( not conducive to a successful highland charge) into grape shot and volley fire from muskets from the front and their right flank( from the 42nd a Scottish regiment) due to some absolutely ridiculous orders from the Prince. It was all due to the wrong choice of ground and poor leadership and indecisiveness from the prince and some of his aides, because up until then the same British army's had all been swept aside using the same tactics and weaponry. So in short it was a series of mistakes by the Jacobite leadership ( some not all ) that lead to their defeat not some master stroke for the Butcher Cumberland .
I think about Jamie and his notorious reputation as "Red Jamie." I imagine that at Culloden, as most of the Scots were getting hewn down or blown up around him, he must have looked like Mars, the god of war, with the way he approached the battle with absolutely no care for his own life.
that is the exact point of the scene... Jamie had already sent Claire the love of his life back to her own time to protect Bree so he didn't care if he lived or died
The comments on here are absolutely top notch. I think the education systems in the UK, USA (and probably Russia) should take a bow. The number of well-informed and accuracy-obsessed historians they have produced and that have come together here is just breathtaking. Breathtaking.
Not exactly accurate, the Highlanders didn't fight Braveheart-style with only the Redcoats using guns. They were both armed with firearms with bayonets.
The Highlanders were a bit of a one trick pony. they only had the Highland charge. If that didn't break the enemy, they were screwed. The British Army had come up with a technique to spoil the charge by training the soldiers to bayonet the man attacking to their right, who would have his right side unprotected by his targe. It may not have worked that way in practice, but it gave the soldiers confidence and raised their morale.
I do wonder if Randall, at some point in this battle, recalled the words of the “witch” who not only knew his full name, but knew he would, in fact, die that day.
Why was Cumberland’s Army in Scotland anyway? Oh that’s right, the Jacobites had just invaded England and were retreating. What happened in the months after the battle was brutal, no denying it. That said England and Wales at the time were a burgeoning parliamentary democracy, (not the finished article for sure), but were well on the way. England had the foothold in a global trading enterprise which was starting to turn into the Empire. Peoples lives in England were improving with better representation, law and availability of food. Compared to Scotland who were at the time not much more than a collections of tribes fighting tribal wars. Once Scotland took on it’s full role in within the U.K., she made a massive contribution and gave so much in terms of art, literature, inventions, engineering, progressive thinking and not to forget formidable military fighting men and leadership. I feel sorry for the poor Crofters who were forced on pain of being thrown off their land to fight in a battle they had nothing to gain by. Culloden wasn’t Scotland vs England. It was more of a Scottish civil war. A point in time where the old ways passed for the new. Many highlanders left Scotland in the years after the battle for numerous reasons, but wherever throughout the world they went they took their poetry, music and spirit with them.
I say Scottish civil war as, often stated, there were as many if not more Scots fighting on the governments / crown side under Cumberland as there were in the Jacobite side.
@@andrewdoubtfire4700 Fair point, although really not a democracy like anything we would understand today. I agree that the reaction after Culloden was understandable - a French-sponsored force had invaded England as far as the Midlands. It was inevitable that London and Edinburgh would now agree to suppress the private armies of the Scottish chieftains so that it could never happen again.
@@andrewdoubtfire4700 What often isn't mentioned is that back then, Lowland Scots and Gaelic speaking Highlanders almost saw each other as foreign in some ways. Think Japan and its struggle with modernisation and Samurai ways
"a collection of tribes fighting tribal wars" If you were talking about solely the highlands then maybe but the lowlands were nothing like this, Edinburgh was as up to date as any English city. Scots law was easily advanced as English law, so that point is null as well.
Luckily the hero was not charging at the front of his troops as it normally happens and as it would have made sense being him some sort of leader. Instead, he was placed some more at the back, right in the perfect place to survive enemy volleys and, at the same time, to be one of the firsts to cut through enemy lines.
You havn't watched the whole film so you would know the hero as you call him was not the leader. He tried to prevent this battle, so why die in the front line.
I wish people in the comments would actually start watching the show instead of leaving brainless comments. Especially the first season of Outlander is highly historically accurate, everything leading up to the battle of Culloden is spot on. Jamie (the Highlander you see in the clip) survives all these wounds because he has plot armor lol.
Chain shot. Canister. Grape. And if you are going to send exploding shells, try to time it so they go off in the air above the enemy formation…. It is beneficial for the defense to build a wall of dead enemies in front of their lines to slow the attacking mob. Just a thought.
The British actor who Jamie kills with his Scottish dirk is a prolific actor with a long list of acting credits to his name. You would be somewhat interested to know that this British actor probably leads the record for most number of violent deaths on film screen. He's died violently in the mini-series, "Caesar", and in the mini-series about the doomed Franklin expedition to find the legendary Northwest Passage, among others.
I don't understand your comment? The Scottish are British! British =Scottish, N.Irish, English and Irish. The Jacobites were British! The Jacobites were fighting their own King ( their own government) because they wanted to swap that king for another King who was Catholic. It's basically a civil war.
His name is Tobias Menzies. And any history buff knows him well. He played Lord Edmure Tully in Game of Thrones, Marcus Brutus in HBO's Rome, and James Fitzjames in The Terror, just to name a few
1000x more impactful when you realize that 0:58-1:02 you're probably watching what was the last Higland Charge in history and its futility in modern warfare as the highlanders are mowed down without even being able to bring down many redcoats with them, and knowing the history that follows with the highland clearances, that you are seeing the reenactment of the last remnant of real highland culture getting shot down in mere seconds
I was around 6 years old when my father took me to culloden. He told me the stories of my ancestors and I still feel the pride and tears well up inside me watching this. Alba gu brath 🏴
Meanwhile in our reality, the Highland charge disintegrated before it even reached the Government line, except at one place - the second line of British regiments just moved up to support the engaged regiments and drove off the outnumbered and exhausted Scots. Oh, wait, there was a whole second line of redcoats behind the first? Yeah, they don't really figure into this version. Cumberland may have been a Butcher but he wasn't stupid.
The whole of this show has such an American view of things. The night before the battle of Prestonpans it shows a local farm boy dressed in full highland great kilt who shows them a secret route to the government camp. Prestonpans is in the Lowlands, just outside Edinburgh, they wouldn't of been dressed like highlands there. Entertaining show but pure romantised Hollywood.
I honestly thought the Brit officer and the scotsman were immortal especially when they saw each other on the battlefield and seemingly sensed that they are both the same undying kind. I eagerly waited for one or the other to cut the head off his opponent for the resolution of the fight as both seem to live forever. After my disappointment, I was shocked to read "Outlander" instead of "Highlander"
People saying not that many British died i suggest you go to the culloden museum. Around 1/4 of the british army was killed at Culloden an entire half of the first left line was slaughtered although this arguably made the jacobite situation worse as they recieved increased fire from various directions because of it.
Outlander is the reason why i today actually went and visited Culloden Field today. I loved and learned so much more about this battle. Being fair to the makers of Outlander, i think some of the people in the comments section are being rather overly critical of the battle scene here. While remembering this is a show with characters at the fore front of it, the right hand side of the Jackobites did penatrate the first line of the English and there's evidence to back that there was indeed quite a bit of hand to hand combat. I believe in this episode the Jackobites did eventually retreat (the battle did last around an hour) and they did manage to kill 50 men and there might even be more as the English mass war grave has not yet been discovered. The fiction of it all was based around the characters of the series and in my view, that is perfectly fine as it compliments the series and the characters that are followed
Firstly, there was no "English" line. The army that fought against the Jacobites had the Lowland Scots, and half the Highland clans represented in it. This was not an England vs Scotland thing, more of a Catholic vs Protestant, and even that's being generous.There's a reason the Highland chieftains had to threaten to expel or burn down the cottages of their tenants who didn't agree to join. Secondly, there was not a great deal of hand to hand combat. The British Army developed a technique for mitigating the Highland Charge which involved bayoneting the person to the side of you to avoid the shield of the man in front. It was a slaughter. Not an end brave men deserved.
You are absolutely right the Hanoverians lost around 50 men dead and maybe 150-200 wounded. The jacobites lost around 1500-2000 (a full third of their army). This was an utter slaughter and the end of the rebellion. Culoden was the last battle on British soil.
Nichola sturgeon is the best leader in the UK at the moment hopefully when she gets her independence referendum her countrymen won't let her down like they did in 2014
@@dannyabel1585 Alex was a great man unfortunately let down by the Scots and vilified like Charles Stewart Parnell was in Ireland I don't blame nicola Sturgeon though because wheather we like to admit it or not its guilty until proven innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty and unfortunately there will always be people who will think Alex Salmond is guilty. Let he or she who is not guilty of the sin of pre judging someone before they have a chance to defind themselves cast the first stone I know I can't afford to
@@Minime163 LOL, Sturgeon, an ex failed lawyer, she is just a chancer with no plans for Scottish independence apart from joining the EU and handing Scotland over to Brussels, some independence that.
@traditional arts and in the Jacobite army a lot were Irish swell as Scottish there was also welsh and English and in the BRITISH army there was Scots English welsh and Irish and if you think that because a regiment like the highlander regiment can just be Scottish yer wrong
@traditional arts was it fuck the there was no english intent to wipe out scottish culture the wipe out of highlands was to catholic jacobite people not scots french english irish welsh were killed anaw
the govt troops held their ground and were trained to strike at the enemy to their side rather than directly in front of them. only highly disciplined soldiers could have done this with a man running full pet towards you waving a claymore and shield. the usual tv/movie battle always has this mass of people all over the place, no tactics and no formations. Govt losses ( troops from all over Britain , remember more Scots fought for King George than the Pretender ) were very low whereas the rebels were decimated.
@@ljss6805 you defeat your enemy in a battle. from a British unionist point of view, it was "far better" .. the Jacobites chose to attack the govt forces and suffered a massive defeat . the last such uprising in the UK .. a bloody battle followed by 300 years of peace.
@@eugeniazinovieva6406 "decimate" (v.) c. 1600, "to select by lot and put to death every tenth man," from Latin decimatus, past participle of decimare "the removal or destruction of one-tenth," from decem "ten" (from PIE root *dekm- "ten"). The killing of one in ten, chosen by lots, from a rebellious city or a mutinous army was a punishment sometimes used by the Romans. The word has been used (loosely and unetymologically) since 1660s for "destroy a large but indefinite number of." Related: Decimated; decimating. ---Online Dictionary of Etymology
Jacobites got to Derby, 2 days from London. Also it was mostly Scots they fought, it was a British army, all the English they fought they crushed....hence Derby.
Surprise, speed, and violence of action. Close the distance and shatter their ranks before the British can effectively reload and bring on the full weight of their volley fire and cannon. This worked for them at Killiecrankei, charging a short distance downhill on solid ground. At Cullodun, a large expanse of boggy moor negated the speed, they had no surprise at all, and by the time they hit the line there was not enough violence of action left in them to win the day (although they fought quite hard indeed). I've visited both battlefields...well worth the trip. Cool rendition of the charge but the real battle was much more one sided than this. The Scots got owned, unfortunately.
@@robertofulton Long sigh....Ok.....The Jacobites got owned then. I know the scots were on both sides and that Jacobite support was the minority but at that moment and that charge it was largely a British vs Scottish moment and, having lived over there for a while, I can assure that this is how it is viewed.
@@Flintlock1776 ohhhhh you lives over there for a while. Well i guess I should bow to your superior knowledge of the country I was born and live in……Long Sigh
@@robertofulton I was speaking of 18th century tactics. I have a Master's Degree in military history. There are a lot of people in the states who can't tell you a damn thing about the wheat field at Gettysburg. The accidental placement of your birth has little to do with what you know about things other than a self realization that your food sucks, it rains a lot, and that you are still a part of Great Britain and not your own country.
It had worked at Falkirk a few days earlier, and at Prestonpans. The problem here was that they should have charged immediately. Instead they were forced to stand in the open and be cut down by British grapeshot.
Culloden 1964 Tv Movie is worth a watch if interested in this - bit dated & low budget feel , but certainly worth a watch first visited the battlefield site in 70s as a kid ; not much there back then re-visited with my own kids ten or so years back - flags now where Clans were lined up and the visitor centre is excellent (as is the Bannockburn one ) visited Culloden last time end of December ; very eerie sensation
The British were impressed by the Highland charge and trained their own infantry in that shock tactic. They were also keen to create Highland regiments.
The Redcoats won the day with discipline, guts and damn fine bloody work with the bayonet after the Scots puffed themselves running through a swampy field and getting decimated by accurate musketry. They never had a chance.
@@Leodhais How do you know this person is English? You need to leave behind your bitter hatred of the English based on stuff that happened hundreds of years ago. Go live your life. There are good and bad people everywhere.
@@SiLatics56 Well, we all had to leave it behind. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about, does it? Still have freedom of speech, I suppose. At least for now.
@@Leodhais I end up having to point this out on so many RUclips clips but I'll do it again. I'm not the only person who has both English and Scottish family (English on Mother's side and generally English but Scottish Father and Uncle, etc. even though he had English parents. You get the idea). My point is why hold a grudge about things that happened hundreds of years ago? This programme is biased HEAVILY in favour of the Highland Scots and that's fine. But these events are nothing to do with people of today. Much of the rivalry between England and Scotland today is just banter. Those who take it further are just idiots.
@@SiLatics56 So we remember. To me, crimes, or ethnical crimes have no expiry date. Ask the Jews. The Germans commited crimes, no doubt. But shouldn't they leave them behind? No. And besides, Germans killed many other people groups, the Gypsies, the Slavs. How about that? They had killed a whole lot of Poles, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Serbs and Russians. It might have been during the conflict, but records still tell us about millions of victims (besides the soldiers) in the countries occupied by Nazies. Do the Russians require compensation? Or do the Serbs? Nope. Just the Jews. Are the Scots any worse or better than the Jews? Scottish Highlanders might not have been a very peaceful populace, but did they deserve such a fate, as Clearances? What about the Irish? From 9 millions they went down to 4. Thanks to Churchill and others before him. Is that the way to treat your subjects? I repeat - the Germany still pays money to Israel for their crimes. Does England do the same to the nations, they have ravaged? I'll make it simple for you: if someone rapes your relative, like your mother, or sister, or wife - will you simply forgive just because some years have passed?
@@Leodhais You're complicating things way too much son. I'm not saying we forget all the genocide and persecution of whole races of people and countries in the past. But what you're doing comes across as bitter hatred. You can't go around calling people on RUclips just for being English without looking like a twat. Sorry but it's true. If you want to hate every English person living now for events in the past that they have no control over then you have a problem. Maybe you should go and eat some Haggis?? If a Scottish person or Scottish people committed crimes against one of your relatives or ancestors, would you now hate yourself or your own people?? I presume you are Scottish yes?
Jamie is supposed to be tactically proficient in the show. Why advocate for a doomed charge, instead of advocating for a retreat and fighting another day under more favorable conditions?
@@AgressorNation there was an entire episode pretty much devoted to him trying to convince the Prince not to engage at Colluden, which obviously didn't happen. Also considering the fact the army is starved, exhausted, lacking any cavalry and that they are ready within range of British cannons, truing to retreat would lead to the army descending into a rout.
Most of the movies I have seen similar to these shows muskets being the center of attraction in battle. But is there even a point in history were both bows and arrows and muskets are used in battle like after firing a volley of musket rounds the archers then take over while the muskets reload? It would be really interesting if such battle did exist...
Since when was this a Scotland vs Britain/England conflict? It was Stuart supporters vs Hanover supporters, nationalism had nothing to do with it. Could the writers not be bothered to skim through a history book.
errrrr..the jacobite Highlanders definitely lost this one ...and quite dramatically too The only place that the highland charge connected with the red coat line was on the left where Barrels regiment was struck and after some severe hand to hand fighting some Highlanders broke through the first line..however cumberlands second line soon killed those that were attempting to advance through the gap and shortly after all the Highlanders engaged against Barrels regiment were overrun and annihilated.. Most of the jacobite forces didn't even reach the red coats and were being steadily shot down as they attempted to advance..in the end what was left of the highland clans left on the field had little choice other than to retreat..leaving some 2000 dead on the battlefield.. The redcoats suffered 300 casualties Which includes 50 dead and 250 wounded ..Clearly this TV drama in no way represents the reality of what actually happened at Culloden..as the only hand to hand melee combat that occurred was on the extreme left of the government line and involved Barrels and Dejeans regiments who suffered 17 and 14 killed soldiers respectively along with over 180 wounded between them..however the 5 highland clans engaged against them suffered many hundreds of casualties ..the Highlanders who broke through Barrels regiment and were involved in the melee were killed almost to a man..the 1960s recreation of this battle was far more accurate than this fantasy..
In the show they lose as well. This is intercut with the main character lying in a field with tons of bodies and the English slaughtering the prisoners.
On this 275th anniversary of this terrible battle, may the spirit of the Scots never waver, and may the souls of those who died RIP. Thank God they will never be forgotten and Highland culture is appreciated these days. ❤️🏴😞
Plenty of Highland culture lived on in Lowland areas, where the Highlanders migrated in droves after the battle of Culloden and during the industrial Revolution. My village near Stirling in the lowlands is basically a mix of Highland and Lowland culture because of the Highland clearances, my area even held the Highland Games many times.
The protestants won it was Catholics vs protestants lots of the Jacobites were French Spanish Irish and even English films like this I just for brainwashing children
What actually happened: the jacobite army was devastated by musket fire and canister shot while charging across the difficult terrain. Cumberland's left was briefly penetrated but the scottish jacobites routed fairly quickly. 50 royalist troops died, compared to thousands on the jacobite side.
And nobody stopped to have a conversation during the fighting.
Lol I was wondering while watching this if my historical knowledge had failed me... lol
The Battle of Culloden got its Hollywood revision.
More accurately, approx. 300 Government troops killed or injured against approx 2000 Jacobites killed/injured.
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It wasn’t devastated by canisters, in fact the artillery played a minor part, most casualties on the Jacobite side was through musketry, Barrells regiment bore the brunt as the Jacobite right wing smashed into it, about 1000 dead on the rebel side, most of these dying days later, lying on Drumossie moor, despatched then, either with bayonet or the brass plate of a musket to the skull, brutal isn’t the word…talking to each other? I’ve no idea, this is a drama after all! I laid some heather on my ancestors grave (Fraser) last week, when I was up in Inverness visiting my mum.
Not to mention Cumberland stationed a light infantry company to the right oblique of the regiment to take the highlanders in flanking fire when they made contact. Also, common mistake, but, the English fired in platoon volleys at that time. It was easier to control the firing and a steady rate of fire would still be delivered by the regiment.
Man, watching this you'd think this wasn't the battle that totally eviscerated and ended the Jacobite Rising
It's called Fictional drama mate! Scots losses in the thousands English in the hundreds.
you would think that Mel Gipson wrote and directed this scene.
Pls watch the show instead of leaving brainless comments!
About 10 times more red coats died in this clip than in the actual battle!
Tbh the death toll for the redcoats in the actual battle was probably greater than 50, closer to 300 I think
@@johnjoefitzpatrick8483 Well, the historical records mention 27 dead soldiers, but who knows, how many died of the wounds? And besides, all the records could have been propaganda, after all, the MacDonalds never made it on the left flank, but the Camerons actually came to grips with the English soldiery, so there must have been a lot of dead and injured, the work of a broadsword is qutie horrible, when it comes to that
Oh, how lucky!!
@@johnjoefitzpatrick8483 And there's more to it. The MacBean chief was fighting against the pursuing soldiers, after the battle was technically over, killing about 12 or 15 men, before he was overwhelmed. So did the MacGillivray chieftain, the redcoats trampled his body into the mud out of anger, because he killed so many of them, just standing back to a wall, repelling attacks with his broadsword. So yes, the casualties among english soldiery must have been much more, than they claim
Leodhais “English soldiery”? I think you will find that there were very few Englishmen there
1:35 I've seen rocks, sticks, bars, knives and guns or whatever the character find near him while being strangled, but smacking your enemy's head with grass is a whole other level
Twas a sod of grass.
He literally killed him with a piece of Culloden. (The name in Gaelic means "sodden moor/damp ground/mucky moor.)
The funniest bit for me was that guy at the start like 'we need the government troops to come to us!'
Like, what? They have guns, and you don't, you buffoon. You want to stand there with your sword while they march at you 'continuing' to shoot?
Dude just ran across a field, got a bayonet in him, had a one on one grapple with another guy, fought a bunch of others, got his leg slashed open and he still manages to overpower an uninjured guy who just got off his horse. My ass.
good on him for killing his rapist though
Its almost like it a tv show and his character has plot armor.
@@Tributevideo Plot armour, I like that!
His horse or your ass, which was it?
Jaysus porridge must be mighty stuff altogether made on iron brew
I love how formations just dissappear as soon as the melee starts.
This is one of the few battles I could actually see it being the case, truthfully. If the British soldiers have muskets with bayonets and the Scottish highlanders have shortswords and targes, it would be in the interest of the Scots to get in close and do man on man rather than fight in formation, the British would have a massive reach advantage with what are basically spears.
@@TheCommunistColin I like your thinking, but historically this wasn't the case. During the battle of Culloden, on the Government force's left flank was where the Highlanders actually reached their ranks; on the right flank they just shouted and fired their pistols. At the left the Highlanders charged in but the Government forces had just employed a new bayonet drill to counter the target-sword attack, whereby every man would attack the opposing Highlander to the right of them, hitting their exposed area (assuming they were right-handed). This turned out to be somewhat effective on the extreme left, but, after a struggle, the Highlanders began to divide one of the the Government battalions on the left (I think was the 4th foot) and the reserve came in to support. This resulted in the complete opposite of this clip: soldiers bunched together in a massive heap, struggling to lift their weapons.
I read a book called "The '45" by Christopher Duffy which describes the scene a lot better than me. :)
@@coocah also what I dont like about these films...if there's a line of soldiers with bayonets raised, there's no way you can jump onto them and break their formation...it's like jumping on spears...wtf...in reality they would stop and try to hit each others, not JUMP onto each others lol
Bayonets were really effective in melee, in films its always worthless for some reason
@@freedomordeath89 Very good point. Even for ferocious Highland warriors a line of bayonets is not something to run into carelessly!
In reality the Jacobites charged and the Hanoverian forces all stabbed the highlander in front of the man to their right and the Scottish line collapsed.
And I thought braveheart was inaccurate !
the battle was quite well done tho
doesnt mean its accurate
You mean Battle of Sterling BRIDGE but forgot the bridge
@@lhd4278 Really? How the fuck was this done properly. Have you even read up on linear warfare and what actually happened here? Shame.
@@lhd4278 Done properly can mean many things to many people. If it was meant to be a representation of a historical battle, it was done ok. If it was meant to show the battle of Culloden, it's pretty bad.
@@WarfightersWorkshop not properly, but cool u know?
On the 11th Feb 1824, The oldest surviving Jacobite Auld Dubrach died at the age of 110 in Braemar. He fought at Pestonpans, Falkirk and Culloden. He was taken prisoner to Carlisle castle where he escaped and returned to the Highlands on the run with a price on his head. He was never recaptured. His funeral was attended by 300 people who drank 4 gallons of whiskey before his coffin was lifted. A hero and a man of honour to the last.
300 pissheads and a corpse. Just a
Saturday night in Glasgow.
128 ounces in a gallon x 4 = 512 ounces/300= a little less than 2 ounces or person (1.7 0unces/person).
He must have ran from the battlefield then.
@webtoedman Fair enough, I should have read it properly.
Unlike Bonnie/Flora who abandoned his troops and fled to France to die in obscurity
A couple of observations. Apart from a brief breakthrough on the left, which put the Jacobites right into the rear rank fire, Cumberland's combined English, Welsh, and Scots formations did not break ranks.
Also, by so doing, they bayoneted the man to their side, not to the front.
This was a direct copy of the Roman legions.
in all hollywood battles the hero just stands at the centre of a mass of milling men running past in all directions and then kills people as they take it in turns to attack him one at a time (as he also has radar of some kind)
But that wouldn't make good television for our gullible American audience 😅
@@cnoc500 hey who u callin gullible ?! #proudtobeanamerican #lol
@@brysebarnes6307 not all Americans are gullible, but if the cap fits buddy 🤠
@@brysebarnes6307well, plenty of Americans on the internet still believe culloden was Scotland vs England.
Which leads me to believe most of them are gullible.
I visited the battlefield a few years ago and admit I wasn't too sure there would be anything to see. After all it is just a field. We walked the field where the charge took place with all the little stone monuments and the "well" where many died. It was very inspirational. Since my background is English and Scottish it was particularly meaningful.
It is an eerie landscape, especially after the goats have munched away the excess follage.
Mass Clan graves are thought provoking and a sense that something sinister took place here has your hairs on end.
Defo expose yourself to the Visitor Experience and ditch forever this romantic notion that it was a Scotland vs England conflict.
Bravo Dan.
Why was it meaningful? It wasn't Scotland vs England. It wasn't Scottish vs English. It was British Stuart royalists vs British Hanoverian royalists. Only meaningful if you are a royalist.
It was not a war between Scotland and England it was a Civil war.
My 10th great grandfather, Archibald Macgregor was in this battle. He was severely wounded and managed to escape and emigrate to North Carolina.
Wow that’s really cool!!
So what
I'm a McGregor but i can't go so far in my genealogy
Nice! My 100th great grandfather was at the battle of marathon and then moved to Syracuse 👍
@@B8ct78it’s not that implausible
My direct ancestors, the MacKintosh clan of Clan Chattan, fought at Culloden. Of all the clans, the MacKintosh suffered the worst casualties, as reflected in the fact they have three mass grave markers where most clans only had one.
In 2013, I went to Culloden with my father and it was an almost surreal experience. The visitor centre is one of the best I have seen, presenting both sides of the story. The battlefield itself was….eerie. They use flags to demarcate the positions of the respective armies. I distinctly remember standing at the spot where men had fought and died. It was a cold, foggy day as well, creating an almost unnerving atmosphere.
My wife is also a Mackintosh, descendant of Moy ancestors. Their story on the lead up to their demise on that bogey moor is one of female manipulation of serfs to switch allegiance while the Clan Chief was a serving Redcoat officer.
n.b. It's always cold n misty on the Moor.
My clan were on the opposite side...
@@Jackalaa101 as was mine, a fine lowland family.
@@Jackalaa101 as was mine, a fine lowland family.
Something that a lot of people fail to realise is that the jacobite revolution is not a war between England and Scotland, it's between the government and the jacobites. My ancestor Lord Duncan Forbes owned Culloden and the surrounding area via birthright, he chose to fight on the government side knowing the government would win. If Duncan chose to fight with the jacobites and lost, the clan would be disbanded. I've been in Culloden myself and walked amongst the graves my ancestor payed for and buried his fellow Scots in. I felt the heavy and costly choice my ancestor made to keep my family alive. Not everyone on the government side was "just another redcoat loyalist" there were Scots in those ranks making the difficult decision to kill their neighbors, and brothers to keep their lordships and later fight against the 1746 dress act.
Putting politics aside its a bastardization of historic method to say that it was a Scottish English battle the British state existed from 1707
I am Scottish and the way you talk makes me think that you were not born and raised in Scotland.
It very much was Scotland vs England. The low land traitor Scots chose land, title & money to fight against their own. And if if wasn't Scotland vs England then why was there an ethnic cleanse attempt of Scotland? The highland clearances, the outlaw of Tartan, bagpipes & our native language?? Still not sound like England v Scotland??
Just as Burns said " bought and sold for ENGLISH gold. A parcel o rogues"
Down with the Union.
Your ancestor sounds like a traitor tae me 🤔
“Traitor” if Jacobites won the battle and then your ancestor will be just another traitor family
Ah,good old exploding cannon balls! The staple of ‘historic’ battle films!
Angel Mcfadden
We use explosive shells since 1376 Venice bro.
@elehtinhalil871 At Culloden they used solid roundshot and canister.
Did this dude just kill a guy with grass?
yes... yes he did
lol
Scottish grass, I think was the point.
Who needs a sword when there’s grass everywhere
He's a big lass!
Did Mel Gibson direct this?.. I get the impression 🤔
No way did Gibson direct it.He only directs films of the English being defeated.lol
That part of the scene 2:38 reminded me of when Martin and Tavington face off at the end.
Indeed, on a personnal level the revenge is complete compared to the main characters.
@@lucasfeliphe7028 Same here, I thought that guy could be Tavingtons dad.
Mel Gibson doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good story, like the historical inaccuracies of the William Wallace fantasy flick, or his Jesus Christ snuff movie.
Finally, the Highlanders won this battle after several cinematic tries.
The Irish
@@kodesh1674 No its a highland clan called the macdonalds
@@kodesh1674 Scottish
Do some actual research and u will find out that there was french Spanish Dutch and many more Nations in that fight but the lying history makers won't tell u that !!!!!!!!
@@kodesh1674 couldnt be further from right than this
This is hilarious. The Highlanders were massacred in just under an hour with few losses for the red coats who consisted of scots and Irish as well as English: 300 dead and injured redcoats and almost 2000 highlanders killed wounded or captured.
Yeah, here they did it in 3 minutes.
There were two government regiments that were badly mauled.
@traditional arts only one side in this battle were traitors.
Yep and there was English French Spanish Scottish Irish on the jacobite side in a nutshell Catholics vs protestants
@@malkavianstr450
Mostly by grass. Vicious grass
It seems the mythology of the Jacobite rising of 1745 still persists, such as the last battle battle between Scotland and England, however, it was actually a civil war, between the deposed the House of Stuart and the then current House of Hanover. Most of the Jacobite soldiers were not motivated by Scottish patriotism, they were levied by their landlords to fight in the rebellion, and there were many Scots and Irish that fought with the redcoats. Culloden also had elements of the French army's Irish Brigade and Royal Ecossais, they fought a rearguard action to give the routing Highlanders time to escape, despite Jacobite valour, they were outmanoeuvred, and suppressed by concentrated firepower, but I guess you can't write pretty stories about the reality of battle, as gallant soldiers fought on despite loosing the war.
Correct
Not just many Scot’s on Irish on the Hanoverian side but many many more Scot’s than on the Jacobite side.
Same as the American war was a civil war between whigs and tories
the Irish Picquets seeing the battle lost did stand letting many Rebles escape but going on the dead of Cumberlands army they must have fired over there heads the Redcoat Dragoons went at the gallop for easy victim's of the fleeing enemy .
The most successful battle of culloden in history
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According to the history books, the Highlander Scots' biggest problem was the big, hefty man leading the English, the Duke of Cumberland. The Scots faced an Englishman with inborn military ability and foresight. Analyzing the Scots' classic, Highlander Charge, Cumberland realized the solution would depend upon two things: an innovative tactical response and increased formation discipline to apply it. The good thing was that the typical English redcoat was already trained to use his bayonet musket as an effective pike. The trick was how better to use it. It took strong discipline, teamwork, esprit de corps and great faith in a redcoat soldier's comrade to his left and right because if either faltered, the soldier in the middle would take a Scottish claymore heavy sword down his skull. Cumberland retrained his English redcoat soldiers to strike out with the bayonet NOT at the Scotsman in front but to the Scot on the right, aiming for his armpit as he held up his Scottish claymore or other sword. Anyone who studied martial arts knows the armpit is a center of vulnerable nerves. A powerful strike to any armpit can collapse the victim. Penetrating with a sharp object was likely to be fatal. Missing the armpit was okay. The redcoat would stab the right side, almost as vulnerable.
The history books say the new tactic worked at Culloden. The English did their typical, classic, staggered row firing, first row, second row as the Highlander Scots came within range. Smoothbore flintlock muskets of the time were not effective past 80 yards, although the musket ball would travel considerably further than that. Once past 80 yards, the charging Scots gave the English no further time to reload and fire past two or three volleys. Remember the practical battle reload and fire rate of a smoothbore flintlock musket was only three shots per minute. The charging Scots would be upon the English in seconds.
The first two or three English volleys cut down a number of Scots making the next tactic a little easier. The Scots warriors raced to the English redcoat front line and as expected had their right arms raised ready to hack down. Most people are right-handed. The re-trained redcoats did their thing, stab the Scotsman to the right under his armpit or his right side.
The video proves what really happened was a huge chaotic mess, as typical melee battlefield combats were at the time. But enough of the innovative tactic caught the Scots by surprise and their charge faltered, allowing back ranks of redcoats to reload and advance, firing, cutting down more Scots until they were forced to break and run. The rest is history. Scotland had finally fallen in practice despite already being united with England and Wales in 1707. The English overlords were harsh in the aftermath and several Scottish clans and their tartans were proscribed. Even though Culloden did not represent Scotland versus England - it was a rebellion led by an exiled Stuart pretender to the English Crown - it will always be remembered as the glorious last stand of the Highland Scots.
Duke of Cumberland was pretty much a German.
@traditional arts Yes, I read this in the history books. At least one was a British historical account. Of course, as you say, it might be historical English propaganda to demonstrate the military prowess and might of England over Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. But I wouldn't know. I read about Cumberland's innovative training technique in several military histories. His innovation was credited more for restoring confidence and morale in his men. Before Cumberland took command, the English government forces in Scotland were demoralized by the frightful Highlander infantry charges, which took advantage of the slow reloading time inherent in flintlock muskets, at best, three shots a minute under realistic battlefield conditions. The Roman legions applied similar tactics against the taller, bigger, stronger Germanic tribal warriors. Legionaries didn't fight one-on-one. They were trained to fight as a group. So if you could help out your buddy on the right by stabbing the German warrior in his armpit or side as he raised his sword against your right-side buddy, all the better. The same for Cumberland's men. True, it wasn't orderly as you say. It was probably all chaotic. But it must have worked on some level of success. The Highland charges were broken and repelled by Cumberland's redcoats. The rest is history.
@@malkavianstr450 Indeed he was. Duke of Cumberland would be today what is called, a 'second-generation' citizen. He would be raised as an Englishman and pretty much immersed in English culture to think like an Englishman and speak like one. But since his father was a first-generation emigrant to England, Cumberland had one foot in his father's German culture. Cumberland would probably at least understand his father, King George II, speaking in German, even if Cumberland couldn't speak German. But almost always, a second-generation citizen can speak the language of his first-generation emigrant parents, even if he or she is far more fluent in the language of the adopted nation. The United States was chock full of millions of second-generation Americans who proudly identified themselves as Americans, acted and spoke like Americans, yet could converse more or less fluently in Italian, Polish, German, Chinese, Japanese, et al, with their parents. Usually by the time of the third-generation, that bilingualism is lost as the third-generation is fully immersed as Americans.
I liked your comment it was very good , there were Scots fighting for the British Government forces .
You forgot to mention the 5 Scottish Regiment and 1 Irish Regiment that were involved in the battle. And the fact the Scottish force at Culloden had Infantry and Horse that failed to charge because they cowered away.
The charging Scots usually relied on Muskets in a majority of their battles. And the ones who ran with swords were no match for bayonets. Hence why the Scots were mowed down at Culloden. And why the Highland clans are dead and will remain dead, forever. Good Riddance.
i had the chance to go in 2017 to the Culloden battlefield as well as a museum near inverness. Wonderful memories !! I am French and I will return for sure because there is so much to see in your beautiful country!
@The_Jaguar_ Knight Yes i know! Thanks
A big thank you to you for having concentrated all these scenes in one! When you know the story and you are a fan of the series, it is a pure pleasure to see these images of the Battle of Culloden with Murtagh, Jamie, Randall, whatever the outcome ... is all the more moving !
Years of training but death by grass.
That would be some anti climax
worse, death by highland turf, even the Scottish ground kills redcoats
Battle was actually WAY more onesided than this.
Given that the British suffered 300 killed and wounded, I feel like I've just saw most of them happen.
@@hhale very few actually died (on the British side) in the fighting itself.
Something like 46 dead in the immediate aftermath of the battle, yes.
its funny how many people think it was the highland clans versus English army division when in actual fact it was majority of Scottish divisions with 1 or 2 English for support.
Jacobite Rebellion
Yeah
Only 25% of Cumberlands Army were Scots..
@Tactical Aioli ahahahahahahah your comment makes me think you dont know the fact that scotland had a wee empire of its own and tried to colonise the Americas before our scottish king made the union so shut the fuck up
@@benduffield1269 The setting up of a trading post in central America is hardly colonising... 😒
This battle was over before it even started, cannon and musketry against claymore's and shields', a well disciplined British Army. Many people have a romantic view of this period in Scottish history.. reality is a vast majority of Scots hated these Highlanders if they were not stealing from lowland sheep farmers they were fighting amongst themselves. Final joke is the romantic pretender ran away with his tail between his legs dressed as a peasant woman never to be seen again, many Scots died unnecessarily because of this fool.
many scots died not because of the Pretender but because of those surrounding him and providing false informaztions or misjudging the situation.
just like the myth of the noble savage of north america
And the Bonnie Prince found it more necessary to have his 26 part silvercoffeeset with him. than to order good equipment for his Highlandfigther because his irish advisor told him the Highlander owe him loyalty and have to fight for him without question.
Correct, he was just a weak feeble minded fop, the 'Speed Bonnie Boat' mawkish tune was
dreamt up later totally to sanitise the reputation of a mincing no mark who scuttled back to Italy.
@@FannyDash The Highlander didn't owe him loyalty,,, his loyalty was to his clan chief and him alone.
What strikes me about the 1964 BBC documentary on this battle is the way that Cumberland's army marches onto the field like they don't have a doubt in the world as to the outcome, and they're enjoying making the Jacobites wait a bit.
The Jacobite Army had marched back from Derby to Culloden it would have been pretty obvious to any commander that they would be tired, hungry and depleted. I'm guessing Cumberlands confidence was also related to the fact He had a tonne of Canons. Dont think the Jacobites had many guns at all. It was a modern army versus an outdated Highland charge.
@@SuperBrooniethere was quite a big gap after they got back to Scotland actually, after the retreat at Derby.
3:42 Brutus can't catch a break, even when he is on the winning side
So the Highlanders won the battle after all. We've been lied to all this time.
Apparently this is an alternate history with time travel and stuff
Well, who was running the news presses at the time? The English.
They lost in the show too.
The Outlander series does depict the Scots as losing Culloden. This clip is labeled somewhat misleadingly. See the full episode for the proper context.
@@Kirin2022 lol Stirling bridge was during Willian Wallace's time the battle they won in the show and real life was Prestonpans.
Having read the comments, it's good to see that I'm not the only one under the impression that the British (Lowland Scots) won the battle. Bloody difficult to tell from this version.
That's a inaccurate idea it wasmt lowlands vs highlands it was Stuart vs No stuart
@@D0nnyy exactly.
@@D0nnyy lowlanders were more loyal to king George than King Charles because the majority of lowlanders were protestant and would've preferred a protestant king. Its the reason the majority of Britain didn't fight for charles despite him being the rightful king.
@@D0nnyy It was the House of Stuart Vs the House of Hanover.
Yeah, the House of Hanover! That's right the Germans that Queen Elizabeth II and King Charles III are direct descendants from.
@@D0nnyy Protestant Hanover versus French backed Catholic Stuart.
If only we used more Tufts of grass we may have won this one!
"Going muzzle to muzzle with redcoats in open field is madness" -Benjamin Martin in 'The Patriot'
"Our choice of Culloden moor as a battlefield today is suicidal!" Lord George Murray, Jacobite general.
This is like a re-creation of Pickett's Charge in which the camera focuses ONLY on Armistead leading a few hundred men over the stone wall and into hand-to-hand - and they leave out the fact that there were THOUSANDS of fresh Union troops in reserve waiting to counter-attack against any breakthrough.
Yes, well, that IS the single most dramatic moment of both battles, right? The piercing of the enemy position, and the hand to hand fighting that results from it. The "high water" mark. It's definitely the part one would most *want* to put in a movie. Everyone knows the final result. Lee was badly beaten at Pickett's Charge. The Jacobites were badly beaten at Culloden. But they both had their brief moment of direct hand to hand "contact" with the army they were fighting, and that makes for a damn exciting scene, doesn't it? What movie producer would not want to focus on that? Furthermore, they did show in "Outlander" the savage beating the Jacobites took from Cumberland's long range cannon fire and closer range musketry...and they showed the disastrous aftermath of the battle too, from the Jacobite point of view. It was all made quite clear.
People forget that the British army consisted of a lot of Scottish Regiments and I emphasise the word BRITISH.
Nearly half were Scottish. There was also an Irish regiment were one my ancestors was in.
ThePictishMan 26 Scotland is British and will ALWAYS be British.
The vast majority of the Scots fighting with the Red Coats were from Clan Campbell - the historic enemy of virtually all the other Highland clans. Most clans not supporting the Jacobites simply abstained (e.g. Mac Leod) . To call it a British civil war is open to conjecture given that no English or Welsh fought with the Jacobite army and virtually all the Jacobites were Scots (except 300 Irish Piquets ) even from as far south as Kilmarnock (Boyd's) and Edinburgh (John Stewart volunteers).
@Gavin MacNeish You sound really pompous.
@@beinnnabhfadhla6457 That's not true, there was four Scottish battalions, one was the Highland regiment and not all of them were Campbell's although about 45% were. But there were actually several other clans, that fought in the government army including Clan Sutherland, Clan MacKay, Clan Ross, Clan Gunn, Clan Grant. The majority of Scots were actually Lowlanders who fought in the government army. You're also wrong about saying no English fought with Bonnie prince Charles's Jacobite army, because there was the Manchester regiment that took part, some were holding Carlisle, while a detachment went to Culloden and fought.
Am a big fan of the series and was actually thinking that the battle should have been separate when I was watching it. This scene would have been the British left flank that was engaged in the battle with hand to hand fighting. This was actually mainly Scot on Scot. So thank you so much for putting this together 👌 I can sleep a bit easier !
Did Mel Gibson direct this battle scene.
No, the Jacobite's would have been wearing blue woad if he did.
Regarding the cannon explosions: showing the real effects of 4-9 pound solid shot would've been much more terrifying than the big "patriot" explosions.
Explosive rounds were rare at this time and were more reserved for sieges.
Three pounders. Ten of them. Firing solid shot then canister and grape shot at 200-300m. Coehorn mortars used at some point which would have exploded. All of it would be fairly worrying...
Funny that you mention "Patriot", since it does include, in one battle scene, a very realistic portrayal of solid shot hitting a man. Though they only showed it bouncing across the grass and removing a man's leg below the knee with no noticeable reduction in momentum. I seem to remember a couple movies where a flying cannon-ball decapitates someone - I think this happens to Matthew Broderick's Regimental commander at the beginning of "Glory". They didn't show something like a cannon-ball hitting a close-order infantry column and flying down a file to strike several soldiers in the torso, with spectacular (and grotesque) effect.
Firing solid-shot, a cannon is essentially akin to a giant musket firing a giant musket-ball. I mean, humans are 60% water. We don't offer much resistance to a solid ball of iron that weighs anywhere from 3-12 pounds (or even more), and which is traveling at least 800 feet a second! The cannon-ball doesn't need to explode - on impact, the humans explode. I did alot of American Civil War reenacting in the past, and I have a (reproduction) cannonball for a 12 lbr Napoleon. (One of the artillery units was selling them as a fund-raiser to finance a new cannon, LOL) To demonstrate to people what it was capable of, I would hold it in my hand, extend my arm at shoulder height, and drop it onto a brick. The brick would be shattered by the impact. I would say, "Now imagine a two and a half pound charge of gunpowder has launched this 12 pound ball of iron out of a cannon 1200 yards away, and its traveling toward you at 1400 feet per second. And instead of hitting a brick its hitting a building, or the wooden carriage of a artillery piece, or...you.
One of the most accurate portrayals of grapeshot/canister ever filmed (that I know of) was in the 2019 Russian film "Union of Salvation" about the "Decembrist" uprising in 1825 Russia. See the link: (be warned - its brutal).
ruclips.net/video/Ww5yYZXgZZA/видео.html
The movie also includes a very accurate Napoleonic cavalry charge where the horses trot, then gallop in A LINE - KEEPING FORMATION! (Instead of the usual wild chaos we see in movies, where it looks like the horses are racing each other).
First time I've seen a person get killed with grass. Lol
I’ve almost killed myself with grass many times !
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Hopefully not the last
Please see Peter Watkins masterpiece 'Culloden' from 1966
martynh, I watched it, broke my heart.
It's really great. The one you'll never forget. It's a pity I can't show it to my students.
1964, I think that was, but you're right, it was far better than this skewed interpretation of the battle.
It was only showen once on the BBC, I was allowed to watch it ! It's available on YT somewhere.
ruclips.net/video/fyuOaQHO5h0/видео.html
Considering the English only lost 50 men, Jamie seems to be responsible for 10 or 20 percent of the casualties singlehandedly.
You meant the British
@@steveforster9764 Fair enough.
“This is round shot. This is what it does.”
I still remember the 1960's documentary showing the Duke's artillery tearing the waiting Highlanders to pieces, with their terrible cries of pain and helpless looks. Hungry, tired men led into a situation where courage couldn't help them against "modern" weapons. My interest in Scottish history dates back to seeing that film when I was 12 years old.
@@josephvissers9792 a wonderful film! One of my favorite depictions of 18th century warfare.
watch that if you want an idea of this battle- not this utter garbage
Apparently this series, Outlander, is all about fighting "the British". I guess somebody forgot to tell them the Scottish ARE British.
Good point. Most of the British Government soldiers at this battle were Scottish Lowland Regiments
Basically it was English regiments (and Clan Campbell) - the addition of the latter is why it's generally termed British. The Jacobites were basically Scots with some Irish and French.
@@13141Scott well not most. but there were certainly more Scots fighting on the govt side than the rebels. the catholic highlanders were there under feudal duties , whereas the British army were all volunteer professional soldiers. the Campbells brought their clans to the field on the govt side. the Italian fop Charles was fighting on behalf of his father , as indeed was the Duke of Cumberland, who was an able commander who marched with his troops rather than rode , as was more usual for officers .
Won't be anymore thank fuck.
The english outmanouvered the Scots at Culloden and many were killed by friendly fire in the smoke covered battle field and confusion. The professionalism of standing armies told the story as The British Empire was becoming a well oiled machine by this time. And innovations in bayonet drill overcame the Targe and broadsword at close quarters.
It wasn't an England v Scotland conflict, there were Scots in the British army and an Ulster division.
Another one that doesn't know his history, It was the British army at Culloden supported by Hanoverian mercenary's against the rightful air to the thrones son. The myth about bayonet drills has long been debunked, Maybe the fact the full Jacobite army wasn't present, most of them had been up all night and hadn't been fed, plus they stood to take cannon fire for a full 30 minutes didn't help much. Plus the fact they had to charge over boggy flat ground( not conducive to a successful highland charge) into grape shot and volley fire from muskets from the front and their right flank( from the 42nd a Scottish regiment) due to some absolutely ridiculous orders from the Prince. It was all due to the wrong choice of ground and poor leadership and indecisiveness from the prince and some of his aides, because up until then the same British army's had all been swept aside using the same tactics and weaponry. So in short it was a series of mistakes by the Jacobite leadership ( some not all ) that lead to their defeat not some master stroke for the Butcher Cumberland .
@The_Jaguar_ Knight Eh British army that not include Scots, Doh Oh and sorry i didn't know you were the grammar police
It was Catholics vs Protestants end of like most Wars nothing to do with freedom
Certainly the British army was well oiled and has been so for as long as anyone can remember
Hand to hand combat really brings out the beast mode in a soldier
I think about Jamie and his notorious reputation as "Red Jamie." I imagine that at Culloden, as most of the Scots were getting hewn down or blown up around him, he must have looked like Mars, the god of war, with the way he approached the battle with absolutely no care for his own life.
that is the exact point of the scene... Jamie had already sent Claire the love of his life back to her own time to protect Bree so he didn't care if he lived or died
The comments on here are absolutely top notch. I think the education systems in the UK, USA (and probably Russia) should take a bow. The number of well-informed and accuracy-obsessed historians they have produced and that have come together here is just breathtaking. Breathtaking.
Not exactly accurate, the Highlanders didn't fight Braveheart-style with only the Redcoats using guns. They were both armed with firearms with bayonets.
The Highlanders were a bit of a one trick pony. they only had the Highland charge. If that didn't break the enemy, they were screwed. The British Army had come up with a technique to spoil the charge by training the soldiers to bayonet the man attacking to their right, who would have his right side unprotected by his targe. It may not have worked that way in practice, but it gave the soldiers confidence and raised their morale.
I do wonder if Randall, at some point in this battle, recalled the words of the “witch” who not only knew his full name, but knew he would, in fact, die that day.
Why was Cumberland’s Army in Scotland anyway? Oh that’s right, the Jacobites had just invaded England and were retreating. What happened in the months after the battle was brutal, no denying it. That said England and Wales at the time were a burgeoning parliamentary democracy, (not the finished article for sure), but were well on the way. England had the foothold in a global trading enterprise which was starting to turn into the Empire. Peoples lives in England were improving with better representation, law and availability of food. Compared to Scotland who were at the time not much more than a collections of tribes fighting tribal wars. Once Scotland took on it’s full role in within the U.K., she made a massive contribution and gave so much in terms of art, literature, inventions, engineering, progressive thinking and not to forget formidable military fighting men and leadership. I feel sorry for the poor Crofters who were forced on pain of being thrown off their land to fight in a battle they had nothing to gain by. Culloden wasn’t Scotland vs England. It was more of a Scottish civil war. A point in time where the old ways passed for the new. Many highlanders left Scotland in the years after the battle for numerous reasons, but wherever throughout the world they went they took their poetry, music and spirit with them.
I say Scottish civil war as, often stated, there were as many if not more Scots fighting on the governments / crown side under Cumberland as there were in the Jacobite side.
@@andrewdoubtfire4700 Fair point, although really not a democracy like anything we would understand today. I agree that the reaction after Culloden was understandable - a French-sponsored force had invaded England as far as the Midlands. It was inevitable that London and Edinburgh would now agree to suppress the private armies of the Scottish chieftains so that it could never happen again.
@@andrewdoubtfire4700 What often isn't mentioned is that back then, Lowland Scots and Gaelic speaking Highlanders almost saw each other as foreign in some ways. Think Japan and its struggle with modernisation and Samurai ways
I agree, fuck England
"a collection of tribes fighting tribal wars" If you were talking about solely the highlands then maybe but the lowlands were nothing like this, Edinburgh was as up to date as any English city. Scots law was easily advanced as English law, so that point is null as well.
Luckily the hero was not charging at the front of his troops as it normally happens and as it would have made sense being him some sort of leader. Instead, he was placed some more at the back, right in the perfect place to survive enemy volleys and, at the same time, to be one of the firsts to cut through enemy lines.
You havn't watched the whole film so you would know the hero as you call him was not the leader. He tried to prevent this battle, so why die in the front line.
Very true. Many of the Jacobite leaders were shot down early in the fight during the charge precisely because they were at the front with their men.
Always amazing how these characters defeat soo many People, totally breaks the immersion of the battle.
Government loses: 50 to 300
Jacobite loses:2500 to 3000
Not a large amount of loses as portrayed here
2000 on a 10000 men army means 20% of the army destroyed, which is super high.
Historical source? What a bullshit sir
The Americans must love this shit. The brave Scots against the unfeeling redcoats. No wonder the BBC never showed it.
I wish people in the comments would actually start watching the show instead of leaving brainless comments. Especially the first season of Outlander is highly historically accurate, everything leading up to the battle of Culloden is spot on. Jamie (the Highlander you see in the clip) survives all these wounds because he has plot armor lol.
Chain shot. Canister. Grape. And if you are going to send exploding shells, try to time it so they go off in the air above the enemy formation…. It is beneficial for the defense to build a wall of dead enemies in front of their lines to slow the attacking mob. Just a thought.
The British actor who Jamie kills with his Scottish dirk is a prolific actor with a long list of acting credits to his name. You would be somewhat interested to know that this British actor probably leads the record for most number of violent deaths on film screen. He's died violently in the mini-series, "Caesar", and in the mini-series about the doomed Franklin expedition to find the legendary Northwest Passage, among others.
I don't understand your comment?
The Scottish are British!
British =Scottish, N.Irish, English and Irish.
The Jacobites were British! The Jacobites were fighting their own King ( their own government) because they wanted to swap that king for another King who was Catholic.
It's basically a civil war.
Let met guess, American right?
His name is Tobias Menzies. And any history buff knows him well. He played Lord Edmure Tully in Game of Thrones, Marcus Brutus in HBO's Rome, and James Fitzjames in The Terror, just to name a few
I can believe he has died more time than Sean Bean.
1000x more impactful when you realize that 0:58-1:02 you're probably watching what was the last Higland Charge in history and its futility in modern warfare as the highlanders are mowed down without even being able to bring down many redcoats with them, and knowing the history that follows with the highland clearances, that you are seeing the reenactment of the last remnant of real highland culture getting shot down in mere seconds
The highlander charges in the napoleonic wars, WW1, Falklands and Afghanistan:
I am a joke to you?
It was nice that the battle stopped for the dramatic pauses then resume after the dramatic scene ends.
I was around 6 years old when my father took me to culloden. He told me the stories of my ancestors and I still feel the pride and tears well up inside me watching this. Alba gu brath 🏴
Meanwhile in our reality, the Highland charge disintegrated before it even reached the Government line, except at one place - the second line of British regiments just moved up to support the engaged regiments and drove off the outnumbered and exhausted Scots. Oh, wait, there was a whole second line of redcoats behind the first? Yeah, they don't really figure into this version. Cumberland may have been a Butcher but he wasn't stupid.
Pure Hollywood!
Kung fu
The whole of this show has such an American view of things.
The night before the battle of Prestonpans it shows a local farm boy dressed in full highland great kilt who shows them a secret route to the government camp. Prestonpans is in the Lowlands, just outside Edinburgh, they wouldn't of been dressed like highlands there. Entertaining show but pure romantised Hollywood.
Somehow I doubt anyone stopped for a good humoured chat in the thick of combat or a protracted duel with their arch enemy. Och well. It's romantic
I honestly thought the Brit officer and the scotsman were immortal especially when they saw each other on the battlefield and seemingly sensed that they are both the same undying kind. I eagerly waited for one or the other to cut the head off his opponent for the resolution of the fight as both seem to live forever. After my disappointment, I was shocked to read "Outlander" instead of "Highlander"
Officer at the end sounded like he bumbed his big toe, not like he just got stabbed. :D "Aah... aah..."
People saying not that many British died i suggest you go to the culloden museum. Around 1/4 of the british army was killed at Culloden an entire half of the first left line was slaughtered although this arguably made the jacobite situation worse as they recieved increased fire from various directions because of it.
Outlander is the reason why i today actually went and visited Culloden Field today. I loved and learned so much more about this battle.
Being fair to the makers of Outlander, i think some of the people in the comments section are being rather overly critical of the battle scene here.
While remembering this is a show with characters at the fore front of it, the right hand side of the Jackobites did penatrate the first line of the English and there's evidence to back that there was indeed quite a bit of hand to hand combat.
I believe in this episode the Jackobites did eventually retreat (the battle did last around an hour) and they did manage to kill 50 men and there might even be more as the English mass war grave has not yet been discovered.
The fiction of it all was based around the characters of the series and in my view, that is perfectly fine as it compliments the series and the characters that are followed
Firstly, there was no "English" line. The army that fought against the Jacobites had the Lowland Scots, and half the Highland clans represented in it. This was not an England vs Scotland thing, more of a Catholic vs Protestant, and even that's being generous.There's a reason the Highland chieftains had to threaten to expel or burn down the cottages of their tenants who didn't agree to join.
Secondly, there was not a great deal of hand to hand combat. The British Army developed a technique for mitigating the Highland Charge which involved bayoneting the person to the side of you to avoid the shield of the man in front. It was a slaughter. Not an end brave men deserved.
You are absolutely right the Hanoverians lost around 50 men dead and maybe 150-200 wounded. The jacobites lost around 1500-2000 (a full third of their army). This was an utter slaughter and the end of the rebellion. Culoden was the last battle on British soil.
We Britons should never be fighting each other, we make a far more formidable force standing together.
Fuck off
Maybe, the english king and his army shouldn't have raped our women, burned our villages down, and beheaded our kings and queen.
@drewpre ah some people just feel more at home in the past with their hate.
@@dannyfeller7034 It is a hatred that will never die. SAOR ALBA GU BRATH
@@northscot9862 Well that is just sad.
I bet Nicola Sturgeon directed this!!! she likes a good story,,!!!.
Shut it 🤡
Nichola sturgeon is the best leader in the UK at the moment hopefully when she gets her independence referendum her countrymen won't let her down like they did in 2014
@@Minime163 you forgot how to spell alex salmond
@@dannyabel1585 Alex was a great man unfortunately let down by the Scots and vilified like Charles Stewart Parnell was in Ireland I don't blame nicola Sturgeon though because wheather we like to admit it or not its guilty until proven innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty and unfortunately there will always be people who will think Alex Salmond is guilty. Let he or she who is not guilty of the sin of pre judging someone before they have a chance to defind themselves cast the first stone I know I can't afford to
@@Minime163 LOL, Sturgeon, an ex failed lawyer, she is just a chancer with no plans for Scottish independence apart from joining the EU and handing Scotland over to Brussels, some independence that.
Why does outlander make out like it was scotland v england😂
It's American made 😂
@@Dom-fx4kt fair enough
@traditional arts and in the Jacobite army a lot were Irish swell as Scottish there was also welsh and English and in the BRITISH army there was Scots English welsh and Irish and if you think that because a regiment like the highlander regiment can just be Scottish yer wrong
@traditional arts mate im scottish i know what it was it was a british cival war not scotland ve england
@traditional arts was it fuck the there was no english intent to wipe out scottish culture the wipe out of highlands was to catholic jacobite people not scots french english irish welsh were killed anaw
the govt troops held their ground and were trained to strike at the enemy to their side rather than directly in front of them. only highly disciplined soldiers could have done this with a man running full pet towards you waving a claymore and shield. the usual tv/movie battle always has this mass of people all over the place, no tactics and no formations. Govt losses ( troops from all over Britain , remember more Scots fought for King George than the Pretender ) were very low whereas the rebels were decimated.
Decimated means 1/10 died. They weren't decimated. It was far worse.
@@ljss6805 you defeat your enemy in a battle. from a British unionist point of view, it was "far better" .. the Jacobites chose to attack the govt forces and suffered a massive defeat . the last such uprising in the UK .. a bloody battle followed by 300 years of peace.
@@coling3957 I'm just saying you used the wrong term.
@@ljss6805 "Decimate (verb): kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of." -Oxford Dictionary
@@eugeniazinovieva6406 "decimate" (v.)
c. 1600, "to select by lot and put to death every tenth man," from Latin decimatus, past participle of decimare "the removal or destruction of one-tenth," from decem "ten" (from PIE root *dekm- "ten").
The killing of one in ten, chosen by lots, from a rebellious city or a mutinous army was a punishment sometimes used by the Romans. The word has been used (loosely and unetymologically) since 1660s for "destroy a large but indefinite number of." Related: Decimated; decimating.
---Online Dictionary of Etymology
Utter crap
They were annihilated within a matter of minutes
Jacobites got to Derby, 2 days from London.
Also it was mostly Scots they fought, it was a British army, all the English they fought they crushed....hence Derby.
@@CelticAngloPress2nd It was a mixed Scottish, English army with an Ulster division too
Is that right .?
@@williamriddell3148 The actually fighting ended pretty quickly, yes.
@@Dom-fx4kt I mean, here it's 3 minutes, so pretty close to the real event.
Charles gave the command to charge as soon as the Redcoats could be seen cannons stuck in the mud .
Surprise, speed, and violence of action. Close the distance and shatter their ranks before the British can effectively reload and bring on the full weight of their volley fire and cannon. This worked for them at Killiecrankei, charging a short distance downhill on solid ground.
At Cullodun, a large expanse of boggy moor negated the speed, they had no surprise at all, and by the time they hit the line there was not enough violence of action left in them to win the day (although they fought quite hard indeed). I've visited both battlefields...well worth the trip.
Cool rendition of the charge but the real battle was much more one sided than this. The Scots got owned, unfortunately.
But the Scots won. Scots supporting the jacobites were far fewer in number than Scots supporting the Hanoverians.
@@robertofulton Long sigh....Ok.....The Jacobites got owned then. I know the scots were on both sides and that Jacobite support was the minority but at that moment and that charge it was largely a British vs Scottish moment and, having lived over there for a while, I can assure that this is how it is viewed.
@@Flintlock1776 ohhhhh you lives over there for a while. Well i guess I should bow to your superior knowledge of the country I was born and live in……Long Sigh
@@robertofulton I was speaking of 18th century tactics. I have a Master's Degree in military history. There are a lot of people in the states who can't tell you a damn thing about the wheat field at Gettysburg. The accidental placement of your birth has little to do with what you know about things other than a self realization that your food sucks, it rains a lot, and that you are still a part of Great Britain and not your own country.
@@Flintlock1776 I live in Scotland and people know that Scots fought on both sides
Director: "Yeah I'm anglophobic, how did you know?"
Love how this almost makes it seem like Bonnie Prince Charlie listened to reason
He in fact did the opposite
He was too busy pooping his breechs.
0:47
Me and the boys back in elementary with some cool sticks
I don't understand the Scots' battle strategy, opting for a suicide charge.
It had worked at Falkirk a few days earlier, and at Prestonpans. The problem here was that they should have charged immediately. Instead they were forced to stand in the open and be cut down by British grapeshot.
Culloden 1964 Tv Movie is worth a watch if interested in this - bit dated & low budget feel , but certainly worth a watch
first visited the battlefield site in 70s as a kid ; not much there back then
re-visited with my own kids ten or so years back - flags now where Clans were lined up and the visitor centre is excellent (as is the Bannockburn one )
visited Culloden last time end of December ; very eerie sensation
A true testament for the scots. A brave and bold tactic the highland charge may they Rest In Peace
The British were impressed by the Highland charge and trained their own infantry in that shock tactic. They were also keen to create Highland regiments.
Which Scots? The ones in the Jacobite army or the ones in the British Army?
makes it look like the Jacobite Scots won! "we slew the flower of their manhood" British officer's quote
The Redcoats won the day with discipline, guts and damn fine bloody work with the bayonet after the Scots puffed themselves running through a swampy field and getting decimated by accurate musketry.
They never had a chance.
@@Leodhais How do you know this person is English? You need to leave behind your bitter hatred of the English based on stuff that happened hundreds of years ago. Go live your life. There are good and bad people everywhere.
@@SiLatics56 Well, we all had to leave it behind. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about, does it? Still have freedom of speech, I suppose. At least for now.
@@Leodhais I end up having to point this out on so many RUclips clips but I'll do it again. I'm not the only person who has both English and Scottish family (English on Mother's side and generally English but Scottish Father and Uncle, etc. even though he had English parents. You get the idea). My point is why hold a grudge about things that happened hundreds of years ago? This programme is biased HEAVILY in favour of the Highland Scots and that's fine. But these events are nothing to do with people of today. Much of the rivalry between England and Scotland today is just banter. Those who take it further are just idiots.
@@SiLatics56 So we remember. To me, crimes, or ethnical crimes have no expiry date. Ask the Jews. The Germans commited crimes, no doubt. But shouldn't they leave them behind? No.
And besides, Germans killed many other people groups, the Gypsies, the Slavs. How about that? They had killed a whole lot of Poles, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Serbs and Russians. It might have been during the conflict, but records still tell us about millions of victims (besides the soldiers) in the countries occupied by Nazies. Do the Russians require compensation? Or do the Serbs? Nope. Just the Jews. Are the Scots any worse or better than the Jews? Scottish Highlanders might not have been a very peaceful populace, but did they deserve such a fate, as Clearances? What about the Irish? From 9 millions they went down to 4. Thanks to Churchill and others before him. Is that the way to treat your subjects? I repeat - the Germany still pays money to Israel for their crimes. Does England do the same to the nations, they have ravaged?
I'll make it simple for you: if someone rapes your relative, like your mother, or sister, or wife - will you simply forgive just because some years have passed?
@@Leodhais You're complicating things way too much son. I'm not saying we forget all the genocide and persecution of whole races of people and countries in the past. But what you're doing comes across as bitter hatred. You can't go around calling people on RUclips just for being English without looking like a twat. Sorry but it's true. If you want to hate every English person living now for events in the past that they have no control over then you have a problem.
Maybe you should go and eat some Haggis??
If a Scottish person or Scottish people committed crimes against one of your relatives or ancestors, would you now hate yourself or your own people?? I presume you are Scottish yes?
Never run to your enemies, let the silly buggers get tired running to you
Except when they have cannon firing canister
Jamie is supposed to be tactically proficient in the show. Why advocate for a doomed charge, instead of advocating for a retreat and fighting another day under more favorable conditions?
they had to fight that day to protect Inverness which was their last major supply depot.
@@eugeniazinovieva6406 and how did that work out for them?
@@AgressorNation it didn't, but the point is they were screwed either way. there was no "fighting another day under more favorable conditions"
@@eugeniazinovieva6406 if you live, you can fight another day.
@@AgressorNation there was an entire episode pretty much devoted to him trying to convince the Prince not to engage at Colluden, which obviously didn't happen. Also considering the fact the army is starved, exhausted, lacking any cavalry and that they are ready within range of British cannons, truing to retreat would lead to the army descending into a rout.
Ahhh, Culloden. The battle all Americans think was Scots against the English Redcoats.
Damn why so much animosity in the comments?This happened like 300 years ago chill people
MI6 shut it or I will come down there with my clan and beat the shit out you like we always do!! Back to your crumpets and tea
@Tom G have you ever considered the aftermath of this battle? then you may understand.
@Din Djarin or you mean English fairies wont shut up about Scottish people not accepting the union.
@Din Djarin accept that England is a shit hole.
@@hiddenknowledge2012 It is no more a shit hole than Scotland and you know it!
Most of the movies I have seen similar to these shows muskets being the center of attraction in battle. But is there even a point in history were both bows and arrows and muskets are used in battle like after firing a volley of musket rounds the archers then take over while the muskets reload? It would be really interesting if such battle did exist...
Unlikely in a battle, but the Longbow was till being used in the English civil war
That’s about as accurate as a Disney movie
Always.
Great edit, ty
War only brings pain, agony and famish.
also bring monuments, stories to tell, and dates to learn on history classes.
0:21 who is that person with the red coat and scottish tam
Since when was this a Scotland vs Britain/England conflict? It was Stuart supporters vs Hanover supporters, nationalism had nothing to do with it. Could the writers not be bothered to skim through a history book.
Romanticism bruh
Fifty Government troops died in the battle which lasted barely an hour. I reckon twice that many got killed in the first five minutes of this film.
errrrr..the jacobite Highlanders definitely lost this one ...and quite dramatically too
The only place that the highland charge connected with the red coat line was on the left where Barrels regiment was struck and after some severe hand to hand fighting some Highlanders broke through the first line..however cumberlands second line soon killed those that were attempting to advance through the gap and shortly after all the Highlanders engaged against Barrels regiment were overrun and annihilated..
Most of the jacobite forces didn't even reach the red coats and were being steadily shot down as they attempted to advance..in the end what was left of the highland clans left on the field had little choice other than to retreat..leaving some 2000 dead on the battlefield..
The redcoats suffered 300 casualties
Which includes 50 dead and 250 wounded ..Clearly this TV drama in no way represents the reality of what actually happened at Culloden..as the only hand to hand melee combat that occurred was on the extreme left of the government line and involved Barrels and Dejeans regiments who suffered 17 and 14 killed soldiers respectively along with over 180 wounded between them..however the 5 highland clans engaged against them suffered many hundreds of casualties ..the Highlanders who broke through Barrels regiment and were involved in the melee were killed almost to a man..the 1960s recreation of this battle was far more accurate than this fantasy..
In the show they lose as well. This is intercut with the main character lying in a field with tons of bodies and the English slaughtering the prisoners.
2:41. I didn’t know Edmure Tully fought in the Jacobite Rebellion.
On this 275th anniversary of this terrible battle, may the spirit of the Scots never waver, and may the souls of those who died RIP. Thank God they will never be forgotten and Highland culture is appreciated these days. ❤️🏴😞
Plenty of Highland culture lived on in Lowland areas, where the Highlanders migrated in droves after the battle of Culloden and during the industrial Revolution. My village near Stirling in the lowlands is basically a mix of Highland and Lowland culture because of the Highland clearances, my area even held the Highland Games many times.
In real life the loss for Scott’s was embarrassingly high and they faced a crippling defeat that could not be overcome.
What a misfortune 😔
Strange, I thought the British won the battle of Culloden.
They did, it cuts out the scene of the scots depleted on the fields while the redcoats go around killing the wounded
The protestants won it was Catholics vs protestants lots of the Jacobites were French Spanish Irish and even English films like this I just for brainwashing children
never thought a clump of heather could be lethal...