@@NegitoroIsBestShip On the product yes getting back the research cost...may be hard for this gen for Nvidia. AMD maybe since its mostly just a Rebrand again
Ye that's what happens when they release at a crazy inlfated price, if teh 4070 came out at 540 people would probably buy it but now ppl are just like meh not interested.
Yeah, there is no winning with that line of thought. I have been saying this for almost a year and at most I would have saved between now and a year back, is about $100-120. Not worth the wait.
@@27Zangle exactky, everybody want great performance and the latest tech but no one is willing to pay. Is the 1~2 year wait worth the savings? i would argue that is not. I got an open box 7900xtx for 900 like 3 months ago and i'm enjoying it way to much to even care about current price drops. I hope people understand that this is not a necessity but a luxury hobby. Just spend what you disposable income allows and be happy.
Not everybody has that kind of money. People should not be forced to upgrade every 3 years at ridiculously high prices. A high end cpu like the 7800x3d costs 545 CAD so why should a high end gpu like 4090 cost 2k CAD? 4070 should be 400 USD. 7600 should be named 7500 and cost 200 USD. 4090 around 1k USD. Its good they are not selling well. They forgot we judge whether the price is right so if they dont lower we dont buy.
@@cxngo8124 that's my point, if you don't have that kind of money, compromises have to be made. Mid to Low tier hardware is more affordable than ever, including older gen as well. If you want 4090 performance but you don't wanna pay 4090 prices, i don't know what to tell you
I doubt it but hopefully Nvidia and AMD learned their lesson about greed this generation. AMD could have had a hit on their hands if they called the 7900xt the "7800xt" instead and launched it at $699 mrsp. Nvidia should have sold the $4080 for $999 mrsp and made the 4070 ti and 4070 cards the 4060 ti and 4060 at 20% increase over the 3060 and 3060ti's cards launch mrsp's. Cards would be flying off of the shelves instead of rotting on them and both companies would still be making a LOT of $$. Instead they chose the "nickel & dime" customers approach.. Guess what? People don't upgrade their cards when the new card is less or equal performance of the card they already own. How does the person in Nvidia marketing keep their job after this series of cards? Does AMD actual have anyone who works as their video card marketing director? It might just be a Post Office box and an answering machine.
The same way bud lightn latest DEI pissed their customer base. Except that tech companies have been doing this since the 1990s when Intel badge the same mistake.
Which lesson? It was a conscious decision from Nvidia to expect similar profit margins from gaming GPUs that they can achieve from professional cards. If the former don't sell, they simply move production towards the latter. They have record profits and simply aren't dependent on high volume gaming GPU sales anymore. AMD took the decision not to compete for market shares Nvidia was willing to give up but sticked to the 15% to 20% lower MSRP than Nvidia. RDNA2 showed, at that price they can sell to their audience but don't really make people en masse ditch Nvidia in favor of AMD.
3080s are low in price because most of them were used for mining. Cards with G6X memory and HBM had best hashrates. Whole reason why nobody used RDNA 2 high end cards for mining. And most 3080 users are 1440p or 4K panel users. So that 10GB vram is really bad at 4K and even at 1440p in latest games. Even i am considering selling my 3080 for cheap because 10GB really not enough right now.
if the 4070 really is in that price range, then it would be the best price to performance card in this generation. 3080 performance, half the power, and bigger VRAM. Minus is, this is a 4000 Generation.
I picked up a 7900XTX as a bit of a set and forget. My goal is to see how long I can make it last. I’m hopeful I’ll get a solid 5 years or 2 generations before I feel the itch to upgrade. I think I’ll continue buying flagships and just trying to make them last.
It will easily last that long. A lot of my friends are still running GTX 1070 for 1080p and some have Rx6650XT for 4K for the last 1-2 years and they don't feel the need to upgrade. So with a Rx7900XTX, even at 4K and 24GB of VRAM, 5 years or 2 generations is an easy breeze.
Also picked up XTX. Its one hell of a card and a real comeback from AMD. Im pretty sure this thing will last me even longer than 5 years considering the 5700-XT lasted me up until now and that was mid-tier.
@@wallacengineering8096 it should last, in truth my last card (1080Ti) was still capable, but I like gaming at 1440p high refresh and the old card was showing signs of age.
I got a 7900XTX, hopefully I can stretch it out longer than that, even if I keep lowering settings later. I'd rather not have upgraded already but my old PC went to shit.
I'd buy an RTX 4070 for $450. Yea, I'm being cheap/unrealistic, but my GTX 1080 ti ended up running Diablo 4 WAY better than I thought it would, so I now no longer *need* to upgrade. Now that I just *want* to upgrade, the $ I'm willing to spend has dropped considerably. It's like I've woken up from a bad dream, where I used to talk myself into believing the 4070 was worth $600+ when in reality it's not. I might budge for a $500 4070 but I am just gonna wait it out the rest of this year and see what happens. Deals/discounts are a good sign though! Edit: for context, I'm only looking at the 4070 because I need a short video card. Any cards longer than 295mm won't fit in my case with my current AIO radiator setup :( So that's why I'm talking about the 4070 exclusively.
Looking forward to battlemage, if intel keeps their promise of 70%-100% performance improvment for hopefully the same price as the a770(which is unlikely, but as far as we know they want to keep it budget).
Wait, 1080 TI is still a good card. I'd personally keep it until it can't 1080p@60fps. That being said i'm still rocking my gt70 from 2013 with a 4700mq and a gtx770m(bios moded to 95W).
@@eivis13 yeah. I run on 1440p tho so it struggles in D4. I'm stuck on medium texture settings cuz of the 8GB VRAM limitation and general slowness of this card compared to modern (2000/3000/4000 series) cards.
@@d4mephisto 1080 ti has 11gb of VRAM. Unless you've mistyped an 8 for a 7, or for some odd reason your card has 3gb disabled (3 memory chips). Having said that have you tried overclocking? On laptops it usually yelds 30-40 % performance increase. I'd guess you have an extra 10% waiting there. Also, from my experience, it's better to first achieve a maximum stable memory clock speed and only then go to core overclocking.
@@Ι.Κουμ I am hopeful Intel will bring some more competition to the market with more and more Arc updates and new Arc hardware eventually. I agree! More competition is a very GOOD thing for a market like GPUs.
10:39 The XFX Red Devil & Hell Hound 7900 XTX & XT are on sale now. It's not unusual for these sort of sales to cycle through vendors. BTW: Amazon Prime Day is July 11-12th, so expect similar sales
There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to justify 4090 prices still being $2000. The only 4090 that should have been $2000 is the KINGPIN or another tuner version and even then that price is ridiculous. The 4090 should be no more than $1200 and the inferior products should be priced well under that. There's no excuse. Crypto mining IS DEAD.
I won't call it a price-drop until nVidia themselves drops their own MSRP down by a substantial amount. Shave off 100-200 dollars on the MSRP, and it might be good enough for the consumers. We don't want some measly discount at certain retailers here.
Glad you pointed out the 3080. I bought a used Aorus RTX 3080 Master in mint condition for 450 bucks this month. I'm playing RDR2 on a 65" 120Hz tv and the card is very capable indeed. Only major con being the 10 GB VRAM.
Still too much For the Performance They Offer. Ideal would be, 7900xtx- $750 Rtx 4080-$750 7900xt- $650 4070ti - $650 4070 - $500 4060 ti - $330 Rx 7600 - $230.
Price drops are a positive thing, but the release of this generation has left a bad taste in my mouth. At this point, we are approaching the mid-life of this generation, and I simply prefer to wait for the RX8000/RTX5000 cards. Buying into this generation now (or even later) will likely result in a situation similar to purchasing the RTX 3090ti a few months before the 4090 was released. And now, a Nostradamus moment for you... Do you remember those great cards that were impressively well-priced at launch by the end of 2020? And then some world tensions happened that ruined it all? Next year, when new GPUs start launching, look carefully at the Taiwan and US-China tensions 🤣
AMD had huge hangover from too many 6000 series cards which did not sell. Now that the high-end AMD catds have sold out we are being told the real prices for 7900xt and 7900xtx. We don't have any mid-range 7000 cards for sale because the hangover still persists for the 6700 / 6800 cards
Tensions have been there for years, but I'm not disregarding it. I'm gonna add to your prediction. It is about Bitcoin and crypto currency. I just wanna say there is a high probability that miners will be back in 2024 because Bitcoin is having a halving, which means price will surge and people will look at mining once again. Of course only a prediction.
@@jskyg68 Research and making a new Architecture basically every time. Trying out new things and being way more power efficient than their competition in most points that matter. Also extremely diverse market positions compared to AMD
🚫🚫the only 4070 that got price reduction coupon is just due to bad manufacturing, the msi ventuse cooler dont have contact with top VRM and also no thermal pad or possibility to add them to the vrms so you see in reviews that they go up to 100C AND THAT pushing the limits of vrm so i think this will lead to shorten the life span of that card
My nearby Microcenter is STOCKED with 4090s. Suprim Liquid X, Asus Strix, Asus Tuf, Gigabyte models... The real problem I see is that there are no new games WORTH spending this amount of money.
I own an rtx gigabyte 4080 and an EVGA 3080 and just bought a 7900xt saphire model. The 3080 is an EVGA that I got for MSRP and then purchased their hybrid cooler at the same time. I also own an EVGA Titan XP black that I mounted on an evga hybrid cooler for 9800xt, it's a direct mount conversion and runs at 26c at idle(was my backup GPU). I'm thinking of pulling my evga 3080 hybrid for the 7900xt for longevity, if there is such a thing, but I'm waffling. I'm not a gamer but I built my systems for my grandsons, NOTE: I owned a PC shop and repair service for 30 years, but I'm NOT a gamer and don't want to hold on to both. As much as I know, I can't read the tea leaves on this one. and and drivers still suck but get better, but damn, they still suck! Note: I do board level repair for motherboards and gpu's, Ive since retired since the pandemic hit, just seemed like a good time to get the hell out of the shit show. take care.
People keep getting excited for temporary coupon/promo code? It's just the retailers sitting on stocks, not NVIDIA or AMD discounting them, don't act like they're learning... :D
I am waiting for a video card to shake up the small form factor market. I got a constraint of 8.75" and still waiting for something around 12GB VRAM, 256-bit bus, performance of a 3070 or so would be nice.
What I've realized and Greedvidia is planing splendidly long term: In a generation or two, there will NOT be a secon hand market. At these prices, many ppl aren't buying, and those who do buy, won't get rid of their GPUs quickly, mabye also wait a generation or two. In other words: The few second hand GPUs will be nearly the same as market price, or in short: there won't be a second hand market. Outstanding move greevidia, they learned from the oversupply after crypto.
I'm just waiting for the 4090ti, not because I want a 4090ti, but because I know nvidia knows the 4090 is priced at the highest extreme a consumer will pay, and will have to bump the whole market down to launch the 4090ti at the 4090's current msrp. They did the same thing for the 3090ti. I may be living in cloud cuckoo land, but hoping for a $700 7900xtx.
This generation was obviously designed to flush out the exceed old inventory of last gen. We can all thank fake internet money mining for the terrible GPU market.
What you forgot to realize is that all FIAT money we use today is also fake... there is no gold backing behind it anymore. Money is just printed out of nowhere, don't you see the inflation?
not for the rest of world tho, but here where i live, at least for amd prices are getting slowly lower, when 7900 xt released it 1,1k euro, now 930, euro, for 170 euro over 4090 price here u can get x2 7900xtx powercolor red devil le
Meanwhile AMD drivers are slipping again driver bug reports ignored for months biggest example sons of the forest with 7900 XTX driver timeout issue also almost whole month without new recommended driver.
As a consumer, I have 0 problem with price drops soon after launch. Day one buyers should learn a lesson if they're salty about paying too much for something.
Agreed. I bought a 7900xtx soon after launch and knew it would drop in price. That's just the way it goes. Was the difference in price offset by having fun with the card sooner? I think so, but others may not. Actually my big mistake was buying a 4K monitor because then I needed a GPU to feed it. A 1440P monitor would have looked good and saved me a lot of money :)
11:40 There are 180 days in a 6 month period roughly speaking, which is how long it has been since 7900XTX's launch. That's not even a single dollar saved on a per day basis to *maybe* get a chance at nabbing a 7900xtx for 850 USD instead. I'll bet you anything that I wouldn't be salty about a "missed opportunity" like that lmfao.
That 7900xt shud be $699 in the first place With current demand it need to go down to $499 while that 7900xtx must be $599 by year end if they're serious to make some shares Im not getting any rtx40 unless a 4060ti 16gb is $299 tho Not enthusiastic about 4080 since im using 6700xt and not buying new psu for a while
I canceled my order from Amazon because the 4070 won't do 4k, and the card I have works just fine at 2k. This is a Skipper generation, as far as I'm concerned, and I'll save my money until I see a card that doesn't make me feel ripped off.
>These are still a little bit overpriced. >A little bit Try a LOT OF BIT. These prices still aren't even in the realm of reality. Don't buy these terrible prices. If you want a banger ofna deal, do like vex showed and buy used. But make sure it's not from a miner, let them burn
Dang you got a 200-300$ gpu for 40$. lucky. I still got my 3060ti with about the same performance for 250$ used vs 300-400$ new. But yeah damn. Unless you're looking to pay 1000$ or 400-500$ just to save 40$ on electricity ONLY if using 24/7 bitcoin mining in 2023 on a 4000 series.. There's just not a lot to buy. Sure the cards are powerful and energy efficient, but you need 5 years of nonstop 24/7 use without underclocking to break even on electricity, (10 years with underclocking to break even). And gpus tend to get obsolete with a card with 2x the performance at it's release msrp every 5 years. So to make a 4000 series break even, you'd need to not settle for say, 10000 pieces of ai images, but literally millions, run 24/7 while deliberately avoiding underclocking (to "save" the 200$ you spent buying the card by burning money. You also would need to never lose interest in ai. Meaning that for gamers you're unlikely to ever recoop investment, and even for ai users with 24/7 hr churning programs, you have to maintain interest like some sort of content vacuum where the prompt refinements can still take 1-10 hours, but the image generation 2-10s. You'd just need to constantly devour images on a scale of fucking billions instead of thousands JUST to break even. And it'd still be the most contrived scenario. The 4000 series are a neat card, but they're plagued by the fact nvidia is putting less vram on cards that go into 2000$ computer than a 400$ ps5. While the ps5 also gets more optimization and uses a apu cpu to get more optimizations and 4k gaming and nvidia's greed in not putting 27$ of 8 gb vram to make their 700$ cards have 16 gb is just silly. Normally it's the memes of pc master race, but even people spending 4000$ on computers say they regret the lack of optimization and depreciating value. Nvidia ruined pc gaming by scaping the mining boom. It might have made sense to their bottom line, but this is the first generation it fucking takes 1000-2000$ to match a 400$ console. And even WHEN you do have it.. Good luck, your 700$ card has 8 gb vram, not 12 gb. ANd if you go amd, there goes your ability to run ai, Get fucked! Thanks nvidia!
I think they have realized that people are not buying this that in fact it was a crypto bubble what was sellin these GPUs. Yet they know that those with the money are gonna buy no matter what. The new normal is gonna be; Release at insane high prices for enthusiasts, rich people and idiots then drop the price three weeks later.
False. NVidia made terrible TSMC deals; AMD had a hangover from too many 6000 series cards. That hangover just cleared last week in the USA ... If the 6000 series cards has sold better we would have had these prices six months ago from AMD ...
@@riczz4641 No, I meant to respond to your comment. AMD is not releasing at insanely high prices because they want to. They are forced by their own failed 6000-series sales to release at insane high prices so as not to screw their retailers ...
I just realized that this coupon trickery from Amazon instead of just offering the discount is so people ordering from outside pay full price and people that aren't observant will miss and don't click the coupon button and pay more as well.
6950xt will be completely gone in two weeks. It's listing at below half of MSRP. The 6000 prices are closeout prices folks they will not come back anytime soon ... 7000 prices were set to encourage 6000 series to sell-theough ...
Unfortunately here in New Zealand, the price is still pretty sky high.Just for AMD... (Nvidia is actually worst) 6600 (non xt ) 250 USD 7600 320 USD 7900xt $1000 USD 7900XTX $1,220 USD Nothing from AMD in the middle (sold out here...the mid 6000 series) I'm waiting til the next gen as I'm happy with my 6600xt last year.
its not fair to compare a used 3080 10gb deal with a new 4070 deal. 4070 has 2 gb extra vram, has dlss 3 to avoid cpu bottleneck in single player games.& power efficient. also you get 3 years warrenty. when spending like $500 for gpu. warrenty is a must have
Discounts are good, bundles are not... I DONT WANT SOMETHING ELSE PACKAGED WITH THE CARD I HAVE TO SELL TO GET A REASONABLE PRICE I WANT THE ACTUAL PRICE I PAY TO BE REASONABLE. The prices are coming down, that is good but they aren't low enough, and packaging a card with something instead of actually dropping the price is not the same as dropping the price. Nvidia had a 67% profit margin, in its quarterly earnings report. AMD has a 55% profit margin, in its quarterly earnings report. BOTH OF THEM ARE UNBELIEVABLY GREEDY, 35% is a good profit margin, 40% is a very good profit margin, 55%-67% is price gouging. These companies could both drop the price of their products 25%-40% and they would still be making "reasonable" profits on these products. DO NOT GET FOOLED BY THIS BULLSHIT. These are not good prices, they are terrible, just less terrible than they were before. Pricing something 50% over what it should cost and then discounting it 20% is MARKETING 101, DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND. They teach this in marketing classes, it's a way to raise prices 25% without as much backlash as just openly raising prices 25%. HAS NO ONE TAKEN A MARKETING CLASS BEFORE.
Capitalism at its finest, these price is the cause of supply and demand law (Crypto bubble + WFH pandemic) now the bubble is pop becaise of Ethereum proof of stake and pandemic is over (World Health Association's statement). And AMD or Nvidia still trying to make Pandemic Price as a new normal? Such a greedy move. I agree with you.
I think people are selling the 3080 pretty "cheap" casue they are afraid of the 10gb vram not being enough and trying to get away from them, thats jut my opinion, but its a combimation of reasons
They can't drop the gpu pricess low enough CPU's are expensive as fuck, Mobo's are expensive as fuck, coolers are expensive as fuck, cases are expensive as fuck, RAM is expensive as fuck, Storage is expensive as fuck EVERYTHING is expensive as fuck.
Every video the same story, EU prices includes VAT 19%-23% dependent of the country, US dont, they pay VAT when checking out because every state has different tax value. Example: If 6700XT is 310$ (without tax) here in EU its 350€ (with tax).
You logic doesn't make sense. If 4070 is $540, used 3080 is $400. If 4070 is $440, used 3080 will just become $300. No matter what you do on a new card, a used card will adjust its price according. That why it's not a good argument.
Atleast in US have some drop price in EU are the same high stupidity price. I just checked 7900 xt is 1000€. Rtx 4070 is 600€. Rtx 4080 is 1400€. Rtx 4070ti is 800€. 7900xtx is 1100€. So the price cut is only on usa and not world wide...
Newegg has upcoming zipfest that takess off $100 off these cards coming up soon, also rakuten, capitol one have some cash backdeals that knock off 5-15% some times
I would imagine the 3080 is so cheap because the type of person that was able to afford one when they were the current gen has upgraded to 40 series and just wants to get rid of it without having it sit on ebay for 2 months.
I think its a strategy from AMD to price their gpu at a high price at launch. They are trying to get the max profit from us and some people do buy them unfortunately. Then with time they lower the price thus reducing their profits and us happy of price drop. At the end of the day, they still win.
It does create a perception that their products aren't inherently valuable though, it makes people think it's a cheap brand, even for the high-end products.
Thats...basic economics...Tho AMD bought their fame with Ryzen using the inverse of that which turns out worked because people were hating on intel so much
@@AlpineTheHusky Nvidia and AMD lower their prices differently though, and both follow certain patterns over the years. If you observe these patterns you can know when to buy the higher tier GPUs for the best prices. Needless to say buying at launch is always a bad idea. After 3-5 months the two highest AMD cards will usually drop by 100-200 and the Nvidia equivalents will drop by a bit more than half that. Prices will usually fall much slower after that, dropping with christmas deals and then raising up a bit in spring until the next gen. AMD definitely "inflate" their biggest GPUs more at launch. I say inflate because they always intend to drop the price more or less "on schedule" wheras Nvidia try to maintain the higher MSRP longer, and their price drops are less predictable. I've also noticed Nvidia cards more often fall into the "fake MSRP" category, where the MSRP only exists on paper for a long time, and the first price drop just brings it down close to the real MSRP.
i wanna have high fps 1080p gaming and streaming at the same time. also some video editing, my budget is 1800-2000. for cpu i was thinking i7 13700k or ryzen 7 7800x3d along with either a 4070 or maybe 4070 ti. any tips??
Do u think AMD and Nvidia will postpone next gen GPUs launch dates by about a year since even the current Gen not selling well and Nvidia is alone at the top? Saw it on the net as a rumor.
Yeah i sold yesterday my old rx 6900 xt for 450 euro in france. Here most things are much more expensive so yeah that was a very good deal. I could have sold it for 500 bucks but it was taking way too much time to sell so i dropped the price. I upgraded like a month ago to an rtx 4090 so yeah.
Hello guys, I come from Europe and I am always confused whether tax is added on to these prices we can see in the USA on Amazon , Newegg, Micro Center etc.?
Wake me up when you realize that their record profits are coming from your wallet. There is no reason in the world for a graphics card to be $600. Let alone $1500. You could take a 5500xt and drop 16gigs of ram on it and it will hang with a 4080 all day long. But instead they are spending billions on software to save that $8 it would add to the cost of manufacturing a GPU with 16 gigs of VRam. We are subsidizing their AI development and have been for 5 years now.
I think people need to stop calling these price cuts deals. Take a look at 2020 pricing and pricing today and you will see that the prices are still like double what they were. Not a deal
Next generation they should start at the bottom not the top start with 12 GB of vram with the 8600 and go up to 32 GB of vram for the 8900xtx and start from 200.00 to 800.00 just saying it would be nice.
The sad irony is in comparison to comparing market competition from themselves, the cards are overpriced 30% for only +10% performance at +30% the cost over the 3000 series and made to be mining gpus. But 700$ for a card with only 8-12 gb of vram when ddr6 is rumored to cost 27$ per 8 gb (just about like ddr5), seems silly. Think of it. With a monopoly/duopoly. Nvidia leaving ONLY 25$ worth of vram on a 700$!!! PRODUCT!!! is completely normal. It's a "good value" for the market even. But if nvidia really wanted, they could theoretically slap 24-32 gb ddr6 onto a card for 100$ and sell the 500$ 4060 ti with 24-32 gb for 100$ worth of vram on the market for the 100$ you pay to go from 8 gb to 16 gb. Yet that's the best deal offered and while it isn't the worst one, there are 699.99$ nvidia cards with only 8-12 gb of vram. The 3080 is a 999.99$ card with only 10 gb of vram. Still sometimes you're stuck to nvidia since they're the only people with ai / cuda/ driver support., Yet what on god's earth is with nvidia charging 999.99$ for cards that go into 1000-3000$ computers to compete with a complete box 400$ playstation? They took advantage of the mining boom and deliver gamers poor quality while pocketing 40-50% of margins. Yet all focus on monopolies like the microsoft/nvidia focus on one of many video games. Why is there about absolutely nothing to break up the gpu monopoly as people just sit and bilk prices?
7900xt dropped to $720 - praise the AMD! Hurray! What a deal! Prices are finally great again! Wait... This is just a 4070 counterpart rebranded to the 4070ti that should cost maybe $600, to begin with. Then how much for the 7900xt? $550? Marketing 101. Soon Nvidia will release the 70-class card for $1000 and people will be happy because the AMD card is cheaper and costs only $900. Seriously? The same goes with the 4080 (which is more like 4070ti) which should cost maybe $750 so its counterpart the 7900xtx should cost around $650.
These GPUs can cost 50$ they're still gonna sell bad because before buying them most people will still look for the reviews instead of the price first which are based on the MSRP which was bad and the review was negative and they didn't recommend the gpu
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Wow A graphics card that was supposed to sell for 350-400$ has been discounted to the low low price of 540$. WHAT A DEAL YOU GUYS!!!
this. wake me up when...
God forbid companies making any money on their products
@@nattalavyapariOh, they are.
@@NegitoroIsBestShip On the product yes getting back the research cost...may be hard for this gen for Nvidia. AMD maybe since its mostly just a Rebrand again
@@AlpineTheHusky Nvidia is making more money now then ever before.
at this point i'm convinced that no matter what prices this gpus are, there's always going to be the "but it could be lower" argument.
Ye that's what happens when they release at a crazy inlfated price, if teh 4070 came out at 540 people would probably buy it but now ppl are just like meh not interested.
Yeah, there is no winning with that line of thought. I have been saying this for almost a year and at most I would have saved between now and a year back, is about $100-120. Not worth the wait.
@@27Zangle exactky, everybody want great performance and the latest tech but no one is willing to pay. Is the 1~2 year wait worth the savings? i would argue that is not. I got an open box 7900xtx for 900 like 3 months ago and i'm enjoying it way to much to even care about current price drops. I hope people understand that this is not a necessity but a luxury hobby. Just spend what you disposable income allows and be happy.
Not everybody has that kind of money. People should not be forced to upgrade every 3 years at ridiculously high prices. A high end cpu like the 7800x3d costs 545 CAD so why should a high end gpu like 4090 cost 2k CAD? 4070 should be 400 USD. 7600 should be named 7500 and cost 200 USD. 4090 around 1k USD. Its good they are not selling well. They forgot we judge whether the price is right so if they dont lower we dont buy.
@@cxngo8124 that's my point, if you don't have that kind of money, compromises have to be made. Mid to Low tier hardware is more affordable than ever, including older gen as well. If you want 4090 performance but you don't wanna pay 4090 prices, i don't know what to tell you
Still too much for me.
I don't think these deals are honestly that great
man a 6650xt is dirty cheap
Are you even a gamer?😅
@@hzwinip I'd say he's being smart
@@DemonDog17 but the competition
Just keep waiting if your satisfied with your current GPU, GPU prices have no choice but to go down with today's economy.
I doubt it but hopefully Nvidia and AMD learned their lesson about greed this generation. AMD could have had a hit on their hands if they called the 7900xt the "7800xt" instead and launched it at $699 mrsp. Nvidia should have sold the $4080 for $999 mrsp and made the 4070 ti and 4070 cards the 4060 ti and 4060 at 20% increase over the 3060 and 3060ti's cards launch mrsp's. Cards would be flying off of the shelves instead of rotting on them and both companies would still be making a LOT of $$. Instead they chose the "nickel & dime" customers approach.. Guess what? People don't upgrade their cards when the new card is less or equal performance of the card they already own. How does the person in Nvidia marketing keep their job after this series of cards? Does AMD actual have anyone who works as their video card marketing director? It might just be a Post Office box and an answering machine.
they simply sell half the amount of products for almost double the price, i'm sure they're all doing well
Lesson? Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank. Google: H100
The same way bud lightn latest DEI pissed their customer base. Except that tech companies have been doing this since the 1990s when Intel badge the same mistake.
Which lesson? It was a conscious decision from Nvidia to expect similar profit margins from gaming GPUs that they can achieve from professional cards. If the former don't sell, they simply move production towards the latter. They have record profits and simply aren't dependent on high volume gaming GPU sales anymore. AMD took the decision not to compete for market shares Nvidia was willing to give up but sticked to the 15% to 20% lower MSRP than Nvidia. RDNA2 showed, at that price they can sell to their audience but don't really make people en masse ditch Nvidia in favor of AMD.
@@Kitten_Stomper And AMD mi300x By the end of the year, two of the most powerful supercomputers will be powered by amd.
3080s are low in price because most of them were used for mining. Cards with G6X memory and HBM had best hashrates. Whole reason why nobody used RDNA 2 high end cards for mining. And most 3080 users are 1440p or 4K panel users. So that 10GB vram is really bad at 4K and even at 1440p in latest games. Even i am considering selling my 3080 for cheap because 10GB really not enough right now.
That's the main reason.
12 is the new minimum
@@Mesakezuit in next year or two 16gb will be the new normal , you should see the requirement of next gen games
@@arnoldshmitt4969 yeo i have a1660 super only going for 16 vram might get and
if the 4070 really is in that price range, then it would be the best price to performance card in this generation. 3080 performance, half the power, and bigger VRAM.
Minus is, this is a 4000 Generation.
its still eeeh imo, id wait for higher tier gpus to go down.
RX 6950 XT >>>
I picked up a 7900XTX as a bit of a set and forget. My goal is to see how long I can make it last. I’m hopeful I’ll get a solid 5 years or 2 generations before I feel the itch to upgrade. I think I’ll continue buying flagships and just trying to make them last.
It will easily last that long. A lot of my friends are still running GTX 1070 for 1080p and some have Rx6650XT for 4K for the last 1-2 years and they don't feel the need to upgrade.
So with a Rx7900XTX, even at 4K and 24GB of VRAM, 5 years or 2 generations is an easy breeze.
Also picked up XTX. Its one hell of a card and a real comeback from AMD. Im pretty sure this thing will last me even longer than 5 years considering the 5700-XT lasted me up until now and that was mid-tier.
@@wallacengineering8096 it should last, in truth my last card (1080Ti) was still capable, but I like gaming at 1440p high refresh and the old card was showing signs of age.
@@riichobamin7612 I hope so! Invested a lot into the rig so keen to avoid upgrades for as long as possible.
I got a 7900XTX, hopefully I can stretch it out longer than that, even if I keep lowering settings later. I'd rather not have upgraded already but my old PC went to shit.
I'd buy an RTX 4070 for $450. Yea, I'm being cheap/unrealistic, but my GTX 1080 ti ended up running Diablo 4 WAY better than I thought it would, so I now no longer *need* to upgrade. Now that I just *want* to upgrade, the $ I'm willing to spend has dropped considerably. It's like I've woken up from a bad dream, where I used to talk myself into believing the 4070 was worth $600+ when in reality it's not. I might budge for a $500 4070 but I am just gonna wait it out the rest of this year and see what happens. Deals/discounts are a good sign though!
Edit: for context, I'm only looking at the 4070 because I need a short video card. Any cards longer than 295mm won't fit in my case with my current AIO radiator setup :( So that's why I'm talking about the 4070 exclusively.
Looking forward to battlemage, if intel keeps their promise of 70%-100% performance improvment for hopefully the same price as the a770(which is unlikely, but as far as we know they want to keep it budget).
Wait, 1080 TI is still a good card. I'd personally keep it until it can't 1080p@60fps. That being said i'm still rocking my gt70 from 2013 with a 4700mq and a gtx770m(bios moded to 95W).
@@eivis13 yeah. I run on 1440p tho so it struggles in D4. I'm stuck on medium texture settings cuz of the 8GB VRAM limitation and general slowness of this card compared to modern (2000/3000/4000 series) cards.
@@d4mephisto 1080 ti has 11gb of VRAM. Unless you've mistyped an 8 for a 7, or for some odd reason your card has 3gb disabled (3 memory chips). Having said that have you tried overclocking? On laptops it usually yelds 30-40 % performance increase. I'd guess you have an extra 10% waiting there. Also, from my experience, it's better to first achieve a maximum stable memory clock speed and only then go to core overclocking.
@@Ι.Κουμ I am hopeful Intel will bring some more competition to the market with more and more Arc updates and new Arc hardware eventually. I agree! More competition is a very GOOD thing for a market like GPUs.
10:39 The XFX Red Devil & Hell Hound 7900 XTX & XT are on sale now. It's not unusual for these sort of sales to cycle through vendors. BTW: Amazon Prime Day is July 11-12th, so expect similar sales
there are no price cuts this good in my country
There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to justify 4090 prices still being $2000.
The only 4090 that should have been $2000 is the KINGPIN or another tuner version and even then that price is ridiculous.
The 4090 should be no more than $1200 and the inferior products should be priced well under that.
There's no excuse. Crypto mining IS DEAD.
I won't call it a price-drop until nVidia themselves drops their own MSRP down by a substantial amount.
Shave off 100-200 dollars on the MSRP, and it might be good enough for the consumers.
We don't want some measly discount at certain retailers here.
I upgraded from an RX 580 4GB to an RX 6950 XT, and the performance uplift is incredibly impressive.
Glad you pointed out the 3080. I bought a used Aorus RTX 3080 Master in mint condition for 450 bucks this month. I'm playing RDR2 on a 65" 120Hz tv and the card is very capable indeed. Only major con being the 10 GB VRAM.
Still too much For the Performance They Offer.
Ideal would be,
7900xtx- $750
Rtx 4080-$750
7900xt- $650
4070ti - $650
4070 - $500
4060 ti - $330
Rx 7600 - $230.
I got a 4070 at $520. Ended up returning it because I realized it doesn't make sense since I got a used 6900xt for $75 less.
w idea smart on you hope you enjoy
We need more cuts this is still crazy high for gpus
Price drops are a positive thing, but the release of this generation has left a bad taste in my mouth. At this point, we are approaching the mid-life of this generation, and I simply prefer to wait for the RX8000/RTX5000 cards. Buying into this generation now (or even later) will likely result in a situation similar to purchasing the RTX 3090ti a few months before the 4090 was released.
And now, a Nostradamus moment for you... Do you remember those great cards that were impressively well-priced at launch by the end of 2020? And then some world tensions happened that ruined it all? Next year, when new GPUs start launching, look carefully at the Taiwan and US-China tensions 🤣
AMD had huge hangover from too many 6000 series cards which did not sell. Now that the high-end AMD catds have sold out we are being told the real prices for 7900xt and 7900xtx. We don't have any mid-range 7000 cards for sale because the hangover still persists for the 6700 / 6800 cards
Tensions have been there for years, but I'm not disregarding it. I'm gonna add to your prediction. It is about Bitcoin and crypto currency. I just wanna say there is a high probability that miners will be back in 2024 because Bitcoin is having a halving, which means price will surge and people will look at mining once again. Of course only a prediction.
@@dgillies5420 So whats nvidias excuse?
@@IMR95 That would be awful if that happens!
@@jskyg68 Research and making a new Architecture basically every time. Trying out new things and being way more power efficient than their competition in most points that matter. Also extremely diverse market positions compared to AMD
🚫🚫the only 4070 that got price reduction coupon is just due to bad manufacturing, the msi ventuse cooler dont have contact with top VRM and also no thermal pad or possibility to add them to the vrms so you see in reviews that they go up to 100C AND THAT pushing the limits of vrm so i think this will lead to shorten the life span of that card
I would tell anyone to get a $680 7900XT over the $540 4070 any day.
unless you're rendering. AMD cards are disadvantaged significantly and I unfortunately can't recommend
My nearby Microcenter is STOCKED with 4090s.
Suprim Liquid X, Asus Strix, Asus Tuf, Gigabyte models...
The real problem I see is that there are no new games WORTH spending this amount of money.
I own an rtx gigabyte 4080 and an EVGA 3080 and just bought a 7900xt saphire model. The 3080 is an EVGA that I got for MSRP and then purchased their hybrid cooler at the same time. I also own an EVGA Titan XP black that I mounted on an evga hybrid cooler for 9800xt, it's a direct mount conversion and runs at 26c at idle(was my backup GPU). I'm thinking of pulling my evga 3080 hybrid for the 7900xt for longevity, if there is such a thing, but I'm waffling. I'm not a gamer but I built my systems for my grandsons, NOTE: I owned a PC shop and repair service for 30 years, but I'm NOT a gamer and don't want to hold on to both. As much as I know, I can't read the tea leaves on this one. and and drivers still suck but get better, but damn, they still suck! Note: I do board level repair for motherboards and gpu's, Ive since retired since the pandemic hit, just seemed like a good time to get the hell out of the shit show. take care.
Went for a used 3080, so happy to not buying any 40 series this time, let's see what nvidia does next year
People keep getting excited for temporary coupon/promo code? It's just the retailers sitting on stocks, not NVIDIA or AMD discounting them, don't act like they're learning... :D
I am waiting for a video card to shake up the small form factor market. I got a constraint of 8.75" and still waiting for something around 12GB VRAM, 256-bit bus, performance of a 3070 or so would be nice.
So tired of the huge triple slot designs. We need more small factor cards on the market!
What I've realized and Greedvidia is planing splendidly long term: In a generation or two, there will NOT be a secon hand market. At these prices, many ppl aren't buying, and those who do buy, won't get rid of their GPUs quickly, mabye also wait a generation or two. In other words: The few second hand GPUs will be nearly the same as market price, or in short: there won't be a second hand market. Outstanding move greevidia, they learned from the oversupply after crypto.
I'm just waiting for the 4090ti, not because I want a 4090ti, but because I know nvidia knows the 4090 is priced at the highest extreme a consumer will pay, and will have to bump the whole market down to launch the 4090ti at the 4090's current msrp. They did the same thing for the 3090ti. I may be living in cloud cuckoo land, but hoping for a $700 7900xtx.
Amazon has the 7900xtx for $830 NOW with resident evil = $790 roughly (sapphire). Even better deal!
Not waiting nearly a month for a GPU just to save $60.
This generation was obviously designed to flush out the exceed old inventory of last gen. We can all thank fake internet money mining for the terrible GPU market.
What you forgot to realize is that all FIAT money we use today is also fake... there is no gold backing behind it anymore. Money is just printed out of nowhere, don't you see the inflation?
not for the rest of world tho, but here where i live, at least for amd prices are getting slowly lower, when 7900 xt released it 1,1k euro, now 930, euro, for 170 euro over 4090 price here u can get x2 7900xtx powercolor red devil le
prices still unchanged in many other countries including mine, almost 1k$ for 4070
Truth, these videos are for Americans specifically. Cheapest 4070 here is $949, for reference I paid $979 for my Asus Strix 1080ti.
Meanwhile AMD drivers are slipping again driver bug reports ignored for months biggest example sons of the forest with 7900 XTX driver timeout issue also almost whole month without new recommended driver.
I have a 3090ti im not one to talk, but even 540 for a 4070 is bananas..
Discounts don't mean a hell of a lot when the they were 2-3x the price of what they should have been at launch.
As a consumer, I have 0 problem with price drops soon after launch. Day one buyers should learn a lesson if they're salty about paying too much for something.
Agreed. I bought a 7900xtx soon after launch and knew it would drop in price. That's just the way it goes. Was the difference in price offset by having fun with the card sooner? I think so, but others may not.
Actually my big mistake was buying a 4K monitor because then I needed a GPU to feed it. A 1440P monitor would have looked good and saved me a lot of money :)
My condolences for the 3090 people, they got done dirty.
11:40 There are 180 days in a 6 month period roughly speaking, which is how long it has been since 7900XTX's launch. That's not even a single dollar saved on a per day basis to *maybe* get a chance at nabbing a 7900xtx for 850 USD instead.
I'll bet you anything that I wouldn't be salty about a "missed opportunity" like that lmfao.
I sold my rx6900 xt for 570e after two years to my friend after two years 940e for the 7900xt top for 4k 120+ 3 years warranty.
That 7900xt shud be $699 in the first place
With current demand it need to go down to $499 while that 7900xtx must be $599 by year end if they're serious to make some shares
Im not getting any rtx40 unless a 4060ti 16gb is $299 tho
Not enthusiastic about 4080 since im using 6700xt and not buying new psu for a while
I canceled my order from Amazon because the 4070 won't do 4k, and the card I have works just fine at 2k. This is a Skipper generation, as far as I'm concerned, and I'll save my money until I see a card that doesn't make me feel ripped off.
>These are still a little bit overpriced.
>A little bit
Try a LOT OF BIT.
These prices still aren't even in the realm of reality. Don't buy these terrible prices. If you want a banger ofna deal, do like vex showed and buy used.
But make sure it's not from a miner, let them burn
gonna hold onto my 2070 super for longer, these prices still aren't low enough. Especially since I got my card for $40 (and no that isn't a typo)
Hell yeah! 2070 super still a great card for 1080p. I still love mine even after I upgraded.
Dang you got a 200-300$ gpu for 40$. lucky. I still got my 3060ti with about the same performance for 250$ used vs 300-400$ new. But yeah damn. Unless you're looking to pay 1000$ or 400-500$ just to save 40$ on electricity ONLY if using 24/7 bitcoin mining in 2023 on a 4000 series.. There's just not a lot to buy.
Sure the cards are powerful and energy efficient, but you need 5 years of nonstop 24/7 use without underclocking to break even on electricity, (10 years with underclocking to break even). And gpus tend to get obsolete with a card with 2x the performance at it's release msrp every 5 years.
So to make a 4000 series break even, you'd need to not settle for say, 10000 pieces of ai images, but literally millions, run 24/7 while deliberately avoiding underclocking (to "save" the 200$ you spent buying the card by burning money.
You also would need to never lose interest in ai. Meaning that for gamers you're unlikely to ever recoop investment, and even for ai users with 24/7 hr churning programs, you have to maintain interest like some sort of content vacuum where the prompt refinements can still take 1-10 hours, but the image generation 2-10s. You'd just need to constantly devour images on a scale of fucking billions instead of thousands JUST to break even. And it'd still be the most contrived scenario.
The 4000 series are a neat card, but they're plagued by the fact nvidia is putting less vram on cards that go into 2000$ computer than a 400$ ps5. While the ps5 also gets more optimization and uses a apu cpu to get more optimizations and 4k gaming and nvidia's greed in not putting 27$ of 8 gb vram to make their 700$ cards have 16 gb is just silly.
Normally it's the memes of pc master race, but even people spending 4000$ on computers say they regret the lack of optimization and depreciating value. Nvidia ruined pc gaming by scaping the mining boom. It might have made sense to their bottom line, but this is the first generation it fucking takes 1000-2000$ to match a 400$ console. And even WHEN you do have it.. Good luck, your 700$ card has 8 gb vram, not 12 gb. ANd if you go amd, there goes your ability to run ai, Get fucked! Thanks nvidia!
I think they have realized that people are not buying this that in fact it was a crypto bubble what was sellin these GPUs. Yet they know that those with the money are gonna buy no matter what.
The new normal is gonna be; Release at insane high prices for enthusiasts, rich people and idiots then drop the price three weeks later.
False. NVidia made terrible TSMC deals; AMD had a hangover from too many 6000 series cards. That hangover just cleared last week in the USA ... If the 6000 series cards has sold better we would have had these prices six months ago from AMD ...
@@dgillies5420 I think you are replying to the wrong comment.
@@riczz4641 No, I meant to respond to your comment. AMD is not releasing at insanely high prices because they want to. They are forced by their own failed 6000-series sales to release at insane high prices so as not to screw their retailers ...
I just realized that this coupon trickery from Amazon instead of just offering the discount is so people ordering from outside pay full price and people that aren't observant will miss and don't click the coupon button and pay more as well.
in my country a discount price of a rx 7900xt is higher than the launch price in US normaly it sells for 1227 usd
The price of not having to spend a fortune on basic healthcare.
iI went from a 2080 ti to a 7900 XT in April. Love the card. For $800 and have zero regrets.
Still need to fork over 600 bucks for a 4070 aka a 3080 12gb.
Nah the 4070 is slower than the 3080 12gig
Remember back when RTX 3080 sell for somethibg like 2 Grand because of scalper, now the price is age like wine.
The prices are dropping "like a rock" because they were way over-inflated to begin with and people are growing tired of CHAD GPU's.
6950xt will be completely gone in two weeks. It's listing at below half of MSRP. The 6000 prices are closeout prices folks they will not come back anytime soon ... 7000 prices were set to encourage 6000 series to sell-theough ...
Yep. I still wonder when the rest of the 7000 series gpus are coming as well.
Unfortunately here in New Zealand, the price is still pretty sky high.Just for AMD... (Nvidia is actually worst)
6600 (non xt ) 250 USD
7600 320 USD
7900xt $1000 USD
7900XTX $1,220 USD
Nothing from AMD in the middle (sold out here...the mid 6000 series)
I'm waiting til the next gen as I'm happy with my 6600xt last year.
Update: Manage to score a 6700xt on the used market and may need a bit of a clean up and close physical inspection. About $187 USD .
its not fair to compare a used 3080 10gb deal with a new 4070 deal. 4070 has 2 gb extra vram, has dlss 3 to avoid cpu bottleneck in single player games.& power efficient. also you get 3 years warrenty. when spending like $500 for gpu. warrenty is a must have
Discounts are good, bundles are not... I DONT WANT SOMETHING ELSE PACKAGED WITH THE CARD I HAVE TO SELL TO GET A REASONABLE PRICE I WANT THE ACTUAL PRICE I PAY TO BE REASONABLE. The prices are coming down, that is good but they aren't low enough, and packaging a card with something instead of actually dropping the price is not the same as dropping the price.
Nvidia had a 67% profit margin, in its quarterly earnings report.
AMD has a 55% profit margin, in its quarterly earnings report.
BOTH OF THEM ARE UNBELIEVABLY GREEDY, 35% is a good profit margin, 40% is a very good profit margin, 55%-67% is price gouging. These companies could both drop the price of their products 25%-40% and they would still be making "reasonable" profits on these products. DO NOT GET FOOLED BY THIS BULLSHIT. These are not good prices, they are terrible, just less terrible than they were before.
Pricing something 50% over what it should cost and then discounting it 20% is MARKETING 101, DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND. They teach this in marketing classes, it's a way to raise prices 25% without as much backlash as just openly raising prices 25%. HAS NO ONE TAKEN A MARKETING CLASS BEFORE.
Capitalism at its finest, these price is the cause of supply and demand law (Crypto bubble + WFH pandemic) now the bubble is pop becaise of Ethereum proof of stake and pandemic is over (World Health Association's statement).
And AMD or Nvidia still trying to make Pandemic Price as a new normal? Such a greedy move. I agree with you.
I picked one up yesterday for $600, huge worth as an upgrade from my 1070 I've had from launch
I think people are selling the 3080 pretty "cheap" casue they are afraid of the 10gb vram not being enough and trying to get away from them, thats jut my opinion, but its a combimation of reasons
They can't drop the gpu pricess low enough CPU's are expensive as fuck, Mobo's are expensive as fuck, coolers are expensive as fuck, cases are expensive as fuck, RAM is expensive as fuck, Storage is expensive as fuck EVERYTHING is expensive as fuck.
Got myself a used (but non-mining) RTX 3080 ti for 450usd 7 months ago and it's pretty good at 4K with 9900K
You guys have nice prices, here in the EU even the 7600 cost $320 instead of $200.
@NoodleAsian 305 euros for a 7600 and 555 euros for the cheapest 6800 here in Hungary...
Every video the same story, EU prices includes VAT 19%-23% dependent of the country, US dont, they pay VAT when checking out because every state has different tax value. Example: If 6700XT is 310$ (without tax) here in EU its 350€ (with tax).
@NoodleAsian In Portugal/Spain the cheapest model is around 350€, so its the same as in the US.
The only problem with the 6950xt is if you have to upgrade to the recommended PSU, and weather it will fit in your case.
You logic doesn't make sense. If 4070 is $540, used 3080 is $400. If 4070 is $440, used 3080 will just become $300. No matter what you do on a new card, a used card will adjust its price according. That why it's not a good argument.
Is 6800xt and ryzen 7 5700x a good combo?
That’s the exact setup I have and yeah it’s great.
Atleast in US have some drop price in EU are the same high stupidity price.
I just checked 7900 xt is 1000€.
Rtx 4070 is 600€.
Rtx 4080 is 1400€.
Rtx 4070ti is 800€.
7900xtx is 1100€.
So the price cut is only on usa and not world wide...
Newegg has upcoming zipfest that takess off $100 off these cards coming up soon, also rakuten, capitol one have some cash backdeals that knock off 5-15% some times
I would imagine the 3080 is so cheap because the type of person that was able to afford one when they were the current gen has upgraded to 40 series and just wants to get rid of it without having it sit on ebay for 2 months.
I think its a strategy from AMD to price their gpu at a high price at launch. They are trying to get the max profit from us and some people do buy them unfortunately. Then with time they lower the price thus reducing their profits and us happy of price drop. At the end of the day, they still win.
It does create a perception that their products aren't inherently valuable though, it makes people think it's a cheap brand, even for the high-end products.
Thats...basic economics...Tho AMD bought their fame with Ryzen using the inverse of that which turns out worked because people were hating on intel so much
@@AlpineTheHusky Nvidia and AMD lower their prices differently though, and both follow certain patterns over the years. If you observe these patterns you can know when to buy the higher tier GPUs for the best prices. Needless to say buying at launch is always a bad idea. After 3-5 months the two highest AMD cards will usually drop by 100-200 and the Nvidia equivalents will drop by a bit more than half that. Prices will usually fall much slower after that, dropping with christmas deals and then raising up a bit in spring until the next gen. AMD definitely "inflate" their biggest GPUs more at launch. I say inflate because they always intend to drop the price more or less "on schedule" wheras Nvidia try to maintain the higher MSRP longer, and their price drops are less predictable. I've also noticed Nvidia cards more often fall into the "fake MSRP" category, where the MSRP only exists on paper for a long time, and the first price drop just brings it down close to the real MSRP.
Man, US folks are lucky with these prices. The rx7900xt costs about $1000 in my place.
i wanna have high fps 1080p gaming and streaming at the same time. also some video editing, my budget is 1800-2000. for cpu i was thinking i7 13700k or ryzen 7 7800x3d along with either a 4070 or maybe 4070 ti. any tips??
wouldn't call any of these price drops major. If a 4070 drops to $400-450 usd where I think it should have been, I might start thinking of an upgrade.
Do u think AMD and Nvidia will postpone next gen GPUs launch dates by about a year since even the current Gen not selling well and Nvidia is alone at the top? Saw it on the net as a rumor.
Highly doubt it. Sales drop throughout the lifetime of a generation. The next gen will bump up their sales numbers once again
I'm still trying to trade up my older PC and 6600xt to a 6700 or 6800 lol.. Hopefully the prices keep dropping, maybe I'll get lucky.
Its like they have to lower the price if they are not selling. Who sould have thought?
It's not "price drop" it is just limited offer, and not everyone live in murica.
Meanwhile here in Europe you get jackshit. Prices barely drop at all.
Yeah i sold yesterday my old rx 6900 xt for 450 euro in france.
Here most things are much more expensive so yeah that was a very good deal.
I could have sold it for 500 bucks but it was taking way too much time to sell so i dropped the price.
I upgraded like a month ago to an rtx 4090 so yeah.
I don't think the bottom is here yet.
People should ignore both sides of this Generation and wait for some proper more power efficient cards.
Hello guys, I come from Europe and I am always confused whether tax is added on to these prices we can see in the USA on Amazon , Newegg, Micro Center etc.?
Sales tax is added after. It’s 7-8% in most of the US
So, this is a summary of Daniel's video? bruh
Wake me up when you realize that their record profits are coming from your wallet. There is no reason in the world for a graphics card to be $600. Let alone $1500. You could take a 5500xt and drop 16gigs of ram on it and it will hang with a 4080 all day long. But instead they are spending billions on software to save that $8 it would add to the cost of manufacturing a GPU with 16 gigs of VRam. We are subsidizing their AI development and have been for 5 years now.
Amd should lower there prices man from the start thats where they mess up my guess the 7900xt will go down to 700 by Christmas
bruh call me when the rtx 4070 is $400 and lower
It will be long but sure a worth waiting for it.
I think people need to stop calling these price cuts deals. Take a look at 2020 pricing and pricing today and you will see that the prices are still like double what they were. Not a deal
Next generation they should start at the bottom not the top start with 12 GB of vram with the 8600 and go up to 32 GB of vram for the 8900xtx and start from 200.00 to 800.00 just saying it would be nice.
As they are a For-profit Business, they probably Wont.
They need to go 50% off for these to be even somewhat considerable
The sad irony is in comparison to comparing market competition from themselves, the cards are overpriced 30% for only +10% performance at +30% the cost over the 3000 series and made to be mining gpus. But 700$ for a card with only 8-12 gb of vram when ddr6 is rumored to cost 27$ per 8 gb (just about like ddr5), seems silly.
Think of it. With a monopoly/duopoly. Nvidia leaving ONLY 25$ worth of vram on a 700$!!! PRODUCT!!! is completely normal. It's a "good value" for the market even. But if nvidia really wanted, they could theoretically slap 24-32 gb ddr6 onto a card for 100$ and sell the 500$ 4060 ti with 24-32 gb for 100$ worth of vram on the market for the 100$ you pay to go from 8 gb to 16 gb.
Yet that's the best deal offered and while it isn't the worst one, there are 699.99$ nvidia cards with only 8-12 gb of vram. The 3080 is a 999.99$ card with only 10 gb of vram. Still sometimes you're stuck to nvidia since they're the only people with ai / cuda/ driver support., Yet what on god's earth is with nvidia charging 999.99$ for cards that go into 1000-3000$ computers to compete with a complete box 400$ playstation? They took advantage of the mining boom and deliver gamers poor quality while pocketing 40-50% of margins. Yet all focus on monopolies like the microsoft/nvidia focus on one of many video games. Why is there about absolutely nothing to break up the gpu monopoly as people just sit and bilk prices?
Dude I pulled the trigger on the RX6950XT to replace my RTX3060!
You gotta compare gpu with used console prices...
I can get a used ps4 and exclusives for 150 USD .
why would i spend more than that for pc games?
I'm still waiting for a decently priced GPU in my country while rocking GTX 970, the wait is painful but I think it will be worth it.
Not looking in the used market?
@@thewhiteknight9923 I don't want to buy used and not have it working, also i have trust issues with strangers and social anxiety in general
coupons were gone shortly after he uploaded the video, they are long gone sadly
The pricing of the rx 7600 isn't hilarious and it's nowhwre near good. Should be 200$ at the absolute maximum.
a game included is NOT a price drop
7900xt dropped to $720 - praise the AMD! Hurray! What a deal! Prices are finally great again!
Wait... This is just a 4070 counterpart rebranded to the 4070ti that should cost maybe $600, to begin with. Then how much for the 7900xt? $550?
Marketing 101. Soon Nvidia will release the 70-class card for $1000 and people will be happy because the AMD card is cheaper and costs only $900. Seriously?
The same goes with the 4080 (which is more like 4070ti) which should cost maybe $750 so its counterpart the 7900xtx should cost around $650.
Hoping they come down even more.
Hope the 7900xtx and the 4080 lower the price even further, thos 2 at max need to cost 499$
This gen mid range to low is only good for true SFF PC under 6L that can only used 1u psu
So glad I got the 12gb version of the 3080.
I really miss EVGA
boys hold we must hold and not buy yet, lets show show them the price we want and not the price they gave us.
These GPUs can cost 50$ they're still gonna sell bad because before buying them most people will still look for the reviews instead of the price first which are based on the MSRP which was bad and the review was negative and they didn't recommend the gpu
im thinking ill wait to buy an nvidia gpu with at least 12g of vram for cheaper