The worst feeling is explaining to your teammates why you didn’t smoke. Sometimes the smoke won’t do anything to help and they use me as a crutch to put the blame on
The notes on the previous vods (beginning of this vod) 4:38 : defense on a : hold the switch from garden, free kill cuz they won't see you 12:50 : smoke backsite on the left for retake is better than the one on the right 18:20 : in retake smoke deeper a choke so they can't fall back fast/we can see them or their utils quicker n longer (like the skye flash if she pops one for example) 20:55 : solo oneway smokes (so smart wtf i'm so dumb)
I don't like mumbai servers for this specific reason, they'll have 4 people on one site with a sentinel and will still ask to smoke. And then they'll flame you "throwing"
Exactly, the problem I face on Mumbai server is that people don't know what to do, nor do they wanna know if I tell them. Like 60% of people are just toxic, 20% don't even speak & rest are like me, they talk but the 80% don't listen to them. Plus people trash talk for no apparent reason when they don't even do anything all game.
Yoo hooj I just want to Thank you as I hit gold without even hitting 20 med bots (max 15) and I panic and rush my shots but, I play for fun with my buddy the reason I don't show up for low elo coaching but your low elo vods helps a lot as who like losing. SO YEAH THANK YOU (if anyone wants to rank up follow his advice to the point)
3:51 normally I would agree with you on this but this is the enemy teams bonus round. I think buying lights against their weak buy isn't a good Idea. it's pretty important for the team to bring as many guns as possible into the next round. And its' way to easy to die in some bs way to a stinger or a specter if you go lights on round 3. Round 3 as the losers buying rifles is pretty much the only time I will prioritize going shields over utility.
Just wanna say thank you (a lot) to hooj , I started playing valorant like 3 acts ago and it's my first fps game btw, and now Im at Gold 1 with 90hrs playtime at comp, really glad I found your channel ❤
Wow. I never really gave a thought to smoking on defence. Just smoke the choke whichever site they push. This user to be my thinking process lol. This idea of my smokes directing their attack blew my mind. Ive never seen any of my teammates do it either. Theyll often just smoke chokes or smoke for aggressive plays. Now the question is how do I explain why I didnt smoke the site entrance to my team in these situations without getting flamed.
Me and my coworker are actively getting back into the game. We are designing a custom made game board complete with sound effects and LED lighting. I’ve always wanted to build this game up from scratch even when I was a kid. I know I’m just a commenter and that this is your project, but if you permit I’d love to join you on your project! Definitely keep documenting your process! I’m interested to see where this goes :D
This seems obvious, even in gold. If one guy is out and sova gets the pick, we'd assume they're all out. I would never throw that smoke and just rotate asap. Though, as a gold I'd also smoke with a senti. Now I know that I'd just smoke inbetween gen and dice when they come out so I have space to move, rat and take picks and get out. I appreciate the daily potassium, even if its 3% its still more than I had before. Now I must convert that potassium into knowlage intake and output to flawlessly execute what I learned. I wonder. . .? Log day 30
low chance hooj sees this but here at 6:16 you mention that c0ld shouldnt smoke B bc it will make the enemy team want to cancel and hit A instead, is this something that someone say play and below should be worry about or not? bc as a high gold player i get times like this often where im holding smoke bc i want the enemy to hit that site but my team is screaming at me to smoke, then they say im trolling when i dont smoke
@@stippystips9418 no im asking if that applies to lower rated players because there've been several tips and things hes said in the past for like asc+ players vod reviews that hes also said dont apply for low rated players.
As an Omen main I like looking at the average use of abilities per round after my games. And if my avg tp per round is around 1, I know that I failed as an Omen player.
as a bronze this kind of smoke didnt work, so i always smoke default template. Some already blamed me because they think i smoked them making it harder to defend
my team when the chokepoint is smoked off: give away our position and get stuck enemy team when it happens: flash our whole team and commit an explosive execute
hooj, idk if this is a silly question but has there ever been a time where u gave someone notes and when they came back, u didnt agree with the notes u gave?
Hey hooj is it okay to play on 2 different accounts? I just reached G2 and other account is s3. My friends and I like to 5 stack and they don't want to play unrated so it's either don't play with them or 5 stack ranked. But I don't want to do that coz of what you said about rank up and I would like to play only one agent there in solo queue. I remember you saying this in one of your videos that it's cool to.have two accounts if you have rank anxiety so that you can always have your peak rank in one of them and don't get anxious. I know this is a completely different context but I want to know is it okay to do or will it somehow deteriorate my actual performance????
No way an ascendent doesn't know what a bonus round is?! Besides that, he needs to completely learn Omen, it's crazy how he ignores his blind and teleport ability. He only uses Smokes... Good luck Cold with that! And thanks Woohoojin for the amazing content!
I felt so vindicated when he showed the retake smoke bc I always throw that when I'm forced to fill omen and people always get mad despite winning the retake.
Dia 3 so my understanding of what 'bonus round' means (and there are multiple 'bonus' rounds each match under varying circumstances) can be hopefully broken down in this way. You win pistol, you buy up as you have an eco advantage for winning a round vs your opponents. You win this buy round, your opponents saved their eco to be able to buy on this next round. You are now playing an "eco" round without having to effectively eco which in turn turns it into a bonus as the credits "saved" this round can roll into 2-3 round loss buys should you streak in that way. For this bonus round however, you didn't need to buy up, buy light, or no buy to eco for this round. You simply had *"A"* gun, which is better than the classic in certain scenarios to then potentially flip it for their bought vandal/phantom or any other gun you deem more worthy than whatever you started out with. Ideal bonus, you round start with a stinger/spectre and end with a vandal/phantom and now it's round 4 and you have +/-6000 for util/armor purposes while the enemy team is back to +/-3400 and eco'ing their 2nd time. Pistol round and bonus round are 2 of the most important rounds for damaging and hindering an eco wave of oppression to force you to forsake certain util buys or to force you into a string of light armor/gun buys. EDIT: It was mentioned in another post that buying shields versus their bonus round has a higher priority over util, and with some of the agents on the roster, I'd agree. Some util is better than others and heavy armor vs light armor does give you an extra half step against their stinger/spectre. Default round 3 bonus as the team bonusing, they typically have vandals. As the team with the bonus guns, I'd argue that you don't need to spend the extra 600 for heavy shields as the headshot will do it's job while still able to tank 3 body shots and being left with 1 hp. However, as the team buying the vandals versing the Bonus team, I'd recommend buying up on your armor as best as possible, forsaking some but not all types of util in favor of heavy armor/vandal to grant you that half step towards the body shot guns of spectre/stinger END EDIT There may be a more fit explanation as to what the bonus round means that I'm not seeing under my perspective but I hope this helps regardless. Any addition or retraction of my statement is welcome if properly explained with it's why and how.
mini update: once again, even three months apart, plat lobbies immediately kicked my ass 💀 2 Ls, one of which was one of my worst games in a while, deranked Fortunately after a quick break I played one more and won :3 BUT NOW I'M 96/100 RR 😭 After getting work done I'm gonna try to get that last 4 :3
My duo plays duelist and uses OP, he gets smoked off by randoms all the time, I play cypher and call I have cage one ways, dont smoke, and they smoke first contact
Generally your smokes should always have a purpose. Avoid putting them passively or “just because”. Put smokes: - to try and force enemies to hit the other stronger site - to retake sites - to convert unfavorable fights to favorable ones Don’t be afraid to take fights. When learning controller, we always have the tendency to smoke every choke point. But sometimes we WANT those fights. We WANT those pushes to come to us.
The smoke is even worse cuz someone is coming from t spawn so the guy in main would be able to isolate their fight even more no? Instead of being worried about b site side too?
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The worst feeling is explaining to your teammates why you didn’t smoke. Sometimes the smoke won’t do anything to help and they use me as a crutch to put the blame on
mute them
It's a tough life for controller mains 😔
I don't listen to them. The majority of people who complain never played another role outside of a duelist
Worse is when they cry that u didn't entry in the first 10 sec on an unbreakable Cypher trap
@@ManifestGamingChannel muting them helps in the moment, but when it happens 10 games in a row it starts to get to you lol
My teammates : video title
Wtf this is relate asf
@@GilzyYT fr its so relate
@@Zkflames but thanks for this video i know what i must do now as a smoker main, i main omen when first play val bcs it looks cool and bad asf bruh
@@GilzyYTfor the record he was tryna make fun of the grammar mistake with sarcasm
Exactly 1 tp use on attack half is crazy
6:11 I never thought of it that way. Seems obvious and I would want them to push the harder site but it never occurred to me lol
It’s because, in solo queue, typically if you don’t smoke immediately “you’re throwing”
2 tp's 2tp's 2 tp's .... i need a whole song fo that
I was watching on 2x and that shit sounded so funny xD
The notes on the previous vods (beginning of this vod)
4:38 : defense on a : hold the switch from garden, free kill cuz they won't see you
12:50 : smoke backsite on the left for retake is better than the one on the right
18:20 : in retake smoke deeper a choke so they can't fall back fast/we can see them or their utils quicker n longer (like the skye flash if she pops one for example)
20:55 : solo oneway smokes (so smart wtf i'm so dumb)
I don't like mumbai servers for this specific reason, they'll have 4 people on one site with a sentinel and will still ask to smoke. And then they'll flame you "throwing"
All hail Singapore servers
Exactly, the problem I face on Mumbai server is that people don't know what to do, nor do they wanna know if I tell them. Like 60% of people are just toxic, 20% don't even speak & rest are like me, they talk but the 80% don't listen to them. Plus people trash talk for no apparent reason when they don't even do anything all game.
I still remember I asked a raze to throw a satchel or nade to break the unbreakable B trip on sunset and he was like, why should i waste it :)
@@archit2018Lmaooo
same with me, but they never want to smoke so i always have to fill. Once every 30 games i get 1 teammate who want to smoke
I'm asc2 in KR server smoke main. and I rarely use omen tp too. This VOD review really helps😊🎉
Just found your channel and this is spot on. It's actually fun watching your vids and trying to guess the error you see before you explain it.
Yoo hooj I just want to Thank you as I hit gold without even hitting 20 med bots (max 15) and I panic and rush my shots but, I play for fun with my buddy the reason I don't show up for low elo coaching but your low elo vods helps a lot as who like losing. SO YEAH THANK YOU (if anyone wants to rank up follow his advice to the point)
Not sure if this is the mumbai server, but feels good to see hindi speakers didnt expected it in a vod review. Feels like home vod review 😂
It is mumbai server for sure
Another woohoojin masterclass
not lmfao
After darshan a year ago now I can see a person from Mumbai server
i know this is probably a joke but darshan is american 😭😭
@@jongdae9976 ?
😂😂😂
wow awesome , great video!! keep up the good work!! it really is very useful!!😊
1:10 wouldn't the one way smoke you can do on the little thing there be better?
All this advice is so applicable and usefull to me. I make all these mistakes. Thanks mr banana man
3:51 normally I would agree with you on this but this is the enemy teams bonus round. I think buying lights against their weak buy isn't a good Idea. it's pretty important for the team to bring as many guns as possible into the next round. And its' way to easy to die in some bs way to a stinger or a specter if you go lights on round 3.
Round 3 as the losers buying rifles is pretty much the only time I will prioritize going shields over utility.
Just wanna say thank you (a lot) to hooj , I started playing valorant like 3 acts ago and it's my first fps game btw, and now Im at Gold 1 with 90hrs playtime at comp, really glad I found your channel ❤
THREE WEEKS of waiting for sunset guide
Wow. I never really gave a thought to smoking on defence. Just smoke the choke whichever site they push. This user to be my thinking process lol. This idea of my smokes directing their attack blew my mind. Ive never seen any of my teammates do it either. Theyll often just smoke chokes or smoke for aggressive plays. Now the question is how do I explain why I didnt smoke the site entrance to my team in these situations without getting flamed.
False security for the enemy is security for your team.
Me and my coworker are actively getting back into the game. We are designing a custom made game board complete with sound effects and LED lighting. I’ve always wanted to build this game up from scratch even when I was a kid. I know I’m just a commenter and that this is your project, but if you permit I’d love to join you on your project! Definitely keep documenting your process! I’m interested to see where this goes :D
Always a good day with a Hooj notification
I'm actually dying seeing the "2 TPs montage" lmao
This seems obvious, even in gold. If one guy is out and sova gets the pick, we'd assume they're all out. I would never throw that smoke and just rotate asap. Though, as a gold I'd also smoke with a senti. Now I know that I'd just smoke inbetween gen and dice when they come out so I have space to move, rat and take picks and get out. I appreciate the daily potassium, even if its 3% its still more than I had before. Now I must convert that potassium into knowlage intake and output to flawlessly execute what I learned. I wonder. . .?
Log day 30
this video helped me a lot cuz i just started maining omen
low chance hooj sees this but here at 6:16 you mention that c0ld shouldnt smoke B bc it will make the enemy team want to cancel and hit A instead, is this something that someone say play and below should be worry about or not? bc as a high gold player i get times like this often where im holding smoke bc i want the enemy to hit that site but my team is screaming at me to smoke, then they say im trolling when i dont smoke
so what ur saying is that you wanna know if you should trust a random gold player or woohoojin more on this topic
@@stippystips9418 no im asking if that applies to lower rated players because there've been several tips and things hes said in the past for like asc+ players vod reviews that hes also said dont apply for low rated players.
21:05 damnnn never thought about that wtf ...thanks
As an Omen main I like looking at the average use of abilities per round after my games. And if my avg tp per round is around 1, I know that I failed as an Omen player.
24:40 Do Omen Smoke Make difference Sound When Blind Someone?
When someone is hit with omen blind they can’t hear ANY sound so it masks the TP noise, similar to the fade util
Yeah But How Did He Know If The Enemy Is Blinded?
as a bronze this kind of smoke didnt work, so i always smoke default template. Some already blamed me because they think i smoked them making it harder to defend
my team when the chokepoint is smoked off: give away our position and get stuck
enemy team when it happens: flash our whole team and commit an explosive execute
hooj, idk if this is a silly question but has there ever been a time where u gave someone notes and when they came back, u didnt agree with the notes u gave?
no
Hey hooj is it okay to play on 2 different accounts? I just reached G2 and other account is s3. My friends and I like to 5 stack and they don't want to play unrated so it's either don't play with them or 5 stack ranked. But I don't want to do that coz of what you said about rank up and I would like to play only one agent there in solo queue. I remember you saying this in one of your videos that it's cool to.have two accounts if you have rank anxiety so that you can always have your peak rank in one of them and don't get anxious. I know this is a completely different context but I want to know is it okay to do or will it somehow deteriorate my actual performance????
Dawg Woohoojin doesnt discourage you from playing with your friends and having fun, don't overthink this hard haha
@@chasewhyte863 The second acc comp is the most insane no brain 5 duelist insta lock run them down competitive queue
everytime you call a possibility, it seems to be eXACTLY what happens. You really know your stuff
Day 18 of thanking Woohoojin for no-scoping potassium wisdom right to my brain
Yet another video to learn from TY its actually fun wish they made you an official teacher or something
when i use some crazy smoke or one way my friends be like thats a useless smoke
Ayo, my bronze/silver teammates be throwing that retake smoke too now.
No way an ascendent doesn't know what a bonus round is?!
Besides that, he needs to completely learn Omen, it's crazy how he ignores his blind and teleport ability. He only uses Smokes...
Good luck Cold with that! And thanks Woohoojin for the amazing content!
when i also play omen i doesnot use teleport mostly coz of scared to pussh
I felt so vindicated when he showed the retake smoke bc I always throw that when I'm forced to fill omen and people always get mad despite winning the retake.
Day 2 of begging Woohoojin to make an oiled up video just like Opera GX.
Day 1 of telling you if you comment this again you'll get shadowbanned from youtube comments forever, never to be seen again.
@@Woohoojinaww man
@@WoohoojinNOO please banana guy I won't do it again
He did heart your comment though, which means he really likes the idea
this was in my lobby in team deathmatch last week (am b2)
what does bonus round entail and what does it mean?
Dia 3 so my understanding of what 'bonus round' means (and there are multiple 'bonus' rounds each match under varying circumstances) can be hopefully broken down in this way. You win pistol, you buy up as you have an eco advantage for winning a round vs your opponents. You win this buy round, your opponents saved their eco to be able to buy on this next round. You are now playing an "eco" round without having to effectively eco which in turn turns it into a bonus as the credits "saved" this round can roll into 2-3 round loss buys should you streak in that way. For this bonus round however, you didn't need to buy up, buy light, or no buy to eco for this round. You simply had *"A"* gun, which is better than the classic in certain scenarios to then potentially flip it for their bought vandal/phantom or any other gun you deem more worthy than whatever you started out with. Ideal bonus, you round start with a stinger/spectre and end with a vandal/phantom and now it's round 4 and you have +/-6000 for util/armor purposes while the enemy team is back to +/-3400 and eco'ing their 2nd time. Pistol round and bonus round are 2 of the most important rounds for damaging and hindering an eco wave of oppression to force you to forsake certain util buys or to force you into a string of light armor/gun buys.
EDIT: It was mentioned in another post that buying shields versus their bonus round has a higher priority over util, and with some of the agents on the roster, I'd agree. Some util is better than others and heavy armor vs light armor does give you an extra half step against their stinger/spectre. Default round 3 bonus as the team bonusing, they typically have vandals. As the team with the bonus guns, I'd argue that you don't need to spend the extra 600 for heavy shields as the headshot will do it's job while still able to tank 3 body shots and being left with 1 hp. However, as the team buying the vandals versing the Bonus team, I'd recommend buying up on your armor as best as possible, forsaking some but not all types of util in favor of heavy armor/vandal to grant you that half step towards the body shot guns of spectre/stinger END EDIT
There may be a more fit explanation as to what the bonus round means that I'm not seeing under my perspective but I hope this helps regardless. Any addition or retraction of my statement is welcome if properly explained with it's why and how.
@@azimoc7982i need bring back my glasses for this oneee
As a viper main the omen who throws the defaults enrages my existence they'll literally smoke my wall chokes.
mini update:
once again, even three months apart, plat lobbies immediately kicked my ass 💀 2 Ls, one of which was one of my worst games in a while, deranked
Fortunately after a quick break I played one more and won :3 BUT NOW I'M 96/100 RR 😭
After getting work done I'm gonna try to get that last 4 :3
you got this
We gotta have like a tally for the amount of times hooj has said two tps and put it in the notes of cold lmao just as a reminder.
Btw, where's the guy who thanked woohoojin for his videos daily, i guess his name was poval
My duo plays duelist and uses OP, he gets smoked off by randoms all the time, I play cypher and call I have cage one ways, dont smoke, and they smoke first contact
So i should just not smoke cuz every smoke he placed is bad? I am trying to learn how to play smokes and now i am even more confused than before
Generally your smokes should always have a purpose. Avoid putting them passively or “just because”. Put smokes:
- to try and force enemies to hit the other stronger site
- to retake sites
- to convert unfavorable fights to favorable ones
Don’t be afraid to take fights. When learning controller, we always have the tendency to smoke every choke point. But sometimes we WANT those fights. We WANT those pushes to come to us.
1 TP for an entire half is actually insane
APAC servera now ?
That's why I don't plays smokes, I take fights through main and listen to whole team.. Even it's not needed.. I initiator sometimes to take fights
I’m sorry, but my honest opinion is that this lobby is Diamond maybeeee asc 1 in na or Europe.
This is an ascendant lobby he's in he touched immortal later this vod was way back from September
für den Algorythmus
ka ob man das so schreibt
no way this is a real language
@@meow2841 its german i can tell and ive only studied it for like 3yrs in skl and i have a 6/5 or a C/D
@@ProfessionaINoobalgorithmus
@@flopy_simp ok fine but it doesnt sound non-german tbh, still sounds weird tho
The smoke is even worse cuz someone is coming from t spawn so the guy in main would be able to isolate their fight even more no? Instead of being worried about b site side too?
lets go im omen main more free potassium wisdom
that’s an high elo smoke heck yea did that smoke the first time i played the game 😂 and still donit
Wait wooh0ojin can understand hindi???
most of the people on mumbai server comm in hinglish
Woohoojin is a banana 🍌
how are these ascendant players and not platinum 2
ek aya 1st lane? we Playing in Mumbai servers?😅
worst server in valorant
@@someoneidk2329have you tried Paris servers?
Have you played in all servers? @@someoneidk2329
@@someoneidk2329 fr bro this looks like gold lol
same kj same map ... I was playing astra .. guess what
finally mumbai server lets go
so never throw B main smoke. got it
(/s)
I see nothing wrong with the first smoke on a in round 1!
you want them to come out, you don't want to desincentivise them in doing so.
unusual posting video time?
My takeaway is that he's still too passive
SWEET TOXIC SERVER: MUMBAI
Mumbai server
Eyy Mumbai servers
WOOHOOJI IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME COACHING AN INDIAN STUDENT
there has been one before as well
Ngl this guy should watch some omen youtubers first
he is playing on server where ppl are poor to buy a good system to play on, speaking from experience....
should be why "teammates" sometimes don't help
Can you review my vod pls
how could this guy reach this rank lol
Mumbai server. Enough said.
@@taejuny_ true
@@taejuny_ not enough, can you elaborate?
@@Blurryface76 beating indian gamers in valorant is just having a semi decent setup. Most play on potatoes. So mumbai immortals are diamonds in NA/eu
@@Supaidaman-323 huh? how do you get to that conclusion? getting to immortal on mumbai server would require a good setup
Day 58 of commenting until I hit diamond or 300 hours to sign up for delicious banana VOD Review
simp
this guy is a simp
idc simp
lucalale my andester simp
2 tp 2 tp 2 tp 2 tp 2 tp 2 tp OH boring tp
first
early af?
pretty dang early
I AM THE FIRST
Second here!
FUCK I'M THE SECOND
be proud, you're the second
Sorry but you don't mute a player because they just ask you a smoke (even bad one !), this is just promoting toxicity