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- Plagiarism or coincidence? In Japanese Rock (Part 3)
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there's probably a bunch of western artists that have copied hide and gotten away with it since he's not as known in america/europe.. sucks.
Sadly it is true... hide was a GENIUS with a guitar. He was not limited by musical style or genre, and I think he broke all the boundaries when it came to mixing everything from Industrial metal to SKA along with Punk and Rock.
Well the very first case, X Japan are one of the Biggest Influences for Versailles, so I don't really think of it as plagiarism
I think there's a difference between Plagiarism and Similarity. These sound similar, but I have also hear similar things to these in MANY songs other than the ones you're compared.
Could also be inspriration. But important thing is to not steal chords progressions that are obvious or melodies
1. X Japan Was always a big inspiration for Versailles - Philharmonic Quintet- but the guitar solos sounds Similar, it's not a copy. In my point of view.
2. the GazettE isn't the kind of band that copy other band's style. They have an unique style and many bands work like inspiration for the guys. But the comparison in the #9 sounds just similar too, it's not a copy, at all. the #4, things like the intro duration and the rhythm of sing in the song, makes the difference, but the rhythm and the guitars have the same sound and that's a little bit of copy.
Gazette has always been a Dir en Grey ripoff
@@yunarukami14 #sadbuttrue
@@reinerwongler7263 Dir en Grey used to copy Luna Sea.
Dadaroma last video, inspiration by inside beast from the Gazette .
Slayer - angel of death 1986 tho... Fuckin masterpiece.
Sex Machineguns (king of heavy metal plagiarism)
Some another similar songs:
Sex Machinegun - Whiplash (Metallica)
Midori no Obachan - In god we trust (Stryper)
Aijin 28 - Freewheel Burning (Judas Priest), The man on the edge (Iron Maiden)
Guitar solo of Devil wing - Guitar solo of Seven doors hotel (Europe)
terusama Even the name of the band is a rip-off of Sex Pistols 😂
I swear this band is like the cheap knockoff of Sex Pistols 🤣
you could make a video showing only grievas songs "inspired" by diru hahah
Haha
Part 4: Grieva vs Dir en Grey!
Maybe... maybe not...
Like Shinsyoku? xD
exactly
gurrenjiru Also Sadie
gurrenjiru I'm SAYIN!!! I think it's super cute that they sound like.oldschool ditu
That some songs sound similar just happens. If you heard a song and you like it it can happen that you write a similar song without knowing.
But some are like not only inspirated, but ripped off by famous music labels for money
Ugly de the Gazette y What's up people? de Maximum de Hormone tambien se parecen xD
Madoromi Akuma Son un poco similares (¿) xd
No se parecen xd
Solo al principio.
The main riff from Gianizm 7 by Nightmare always sounded like the Soad Sugar riff
That Slayer one was so obvious XD. The moment the Sex Machineguns started I was like: This is Angels of Death by Slayer....
the chorus of mejibray's echo always reminded me of onmyouza's kouga ninpou chou chorus (just slower of course), but the example right here is way more similar!
also i have 2 suggestions:
1. Killaneth's Seraph vs. Girugamesh's go ahead (the synth-melody and the metalcoreish rhythm) both starting after the intro...
2. Liraizo's anata ni korosaretai vs. Girugamesh's omae ni sasageru minikui koe (the whole instrumental parts in the intro, i think there might be even some transitions in the drumparts that are exactly the same without any changes)
sorry for listing both girugamesh songs :P
+jpotion Thanks for your comment and suggestion,
The beginning of ONE OK ROCK-Chaosmyth sounds like The Police-Every breat you take somehow... could you check it? I mean the part after the bass begins to play in Chaosmyth...
Vortex was actually first recorded and released in 2010 as a single
Deflina Ma'riage did it first I believe, Sadie first used those riffs in CHILDREN OF DESPAIR 2006, Lycaon used it in 2008 as a breakdown for 1st degree.
Ahh cool, you put in my suggestion!!
I guess Echo doesn't sound too similar to Monochrome no Kiss when I listen to it closely, but it might when MnK slowed down?
+angel Maybe...
+angel your sugestion is correct, echo sounds a lot like monochrome no kiss, the main difference is just the slower tempo, i guess every 9 out of 10 people will tell you the same,...
LOL the the vocalist(I'm assuming) of Grieva even looks like Kyo back then. Kind of the same case with Sadie who kind of imitated mid-2000's Diru for some time.
En lo de The Gazette con Sads, sabiendo la admiración de Ruki hacia Kiyoharu, lo veo mas como un tributo que otra cosa
Concuerdo contigo
Why I’m Me by RIZE and Shiver by The GazettE have a very similar riff
D's 太陽を背にして (Taiyou wo Senishite) is almost a straight rip of Fireflght's Unbreakable, both in the intro and the vocal style
#9 sounds similar to X from.Xjapan
#08 guys,you never heard "in silence" (luna sea) intro?
En mi opinion no creo que se traten de plagios sino coincidencias, las melodias ya estan en la musica y es inevitable para los musicos coincidir en creatividad, siempre habra similitud entre canciones de diferetes partes del mundo
I love J-Rock and J-Metal
Although I don't dislike Grieva per se (mainly because I support even the shittiest VKei bands there are so the scene won't die so I'm down for whatever) I gotta tell you, they have done THE SAME as old school Dir en grey countless times! It gets ridiculous! I get that they really like Diru and so do I, they're my boys and all but fuck, no band ever sounded and looked and acted so damn like Diru, ever! It doesn't bother me and I can't hate them 'cause they sound just like my fav band so, I can't help but find their songs catchy or whatever, but they gotta stop being so obvious lol
Still wish X japans endless rain was on here cause the opening piano part was from a jazz album by an american and I legit have never been able to find it after someone pointed it out in some long gone video.
Another suggestion, The Gallo - Incubus and Psycho le Cemu - Love is dead / The chorus is very similar
Don't forget
Oasis - Fade Away (1994)
L'Arc-en-Ciel - Stay Away (2000)
The GazettE Shiver i think had similarity with Luna Sea Rosier.. intro and drum beat
Inspiration because it's Kai's favorite band
in case you didn't notice: Megaromania also copy Electric eye by Judas priest in Distrust Labyrinth. So did Jakura in Rasen, in this case they copy Bitch is back by L.A.Guns
The guitar work on DeG's "Phenomenon" sounds very similar to Nine Inch Nails' song "All Time Low."
All of Deathgaze's earlier stuff ripped off of something. A lot of Slipknot ripoffs.
Really? I mean I know Grave is literally Mein Teil by Rammstein but other than that Deathgaze has its own sound. Almost too much of its own sound in the sense a lot of their songs sound really similar
I'm a big Slipknot and Deathgaze fan. I also play guitar and I never noticed any riffs are the same. Can you name one song?
@@TheTrendkillerx Listen to any of their earlier works and you can hear it. Chaos is a good example of it. Don't get me wrong, lots of bands copy their influences, especially early in their career. Deathgaze is a great band, and so is Slipknot, but it should be recognized that they copied them.
@@heliotroph3750 Chaos is one of my favorite tracks by deathgaze. Which Slipknot song is it copying? I know their earlier style is similar but I don't think they stole riffs from them.
What about LM.C's sentimental piggy romance vs Green Day's Stray Heart?
Hide - Doubt and Marilyn Manson - Little Horn have many similarities. I remember Hide's personal copy of Antichrist Superstar in Hide Museum at Yokosuka, and back in time when he died, there was an urban legend that they were "friends".
Other Manson inspiration is Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety-Zag and Dir en grey's Asunaki Koufuku Koenaki Asu, but then again, Dir en grey's Vulgar album is love letter to western metal at the time and has many other inspirations.
Another vk band that was a real MM copy is "mushi", I still play songs as God TV, they're pretty fun.
Revenant choir's versailles basically use some part of art of life x japan's chord
The GazettE is the beeeeest
Suggestion:
Heidi - Kane no Naru Oka [2007] / Pierrot - MAD Sky [1998] ... the intro is fucking similar!!!!
Hmmm... someone explain to me about this options using music theory.....
Kinda chord, competition, etc
#3 reff sound like Sonichi-AKB48 & Ninja Rantaro Opening XD
La:Sadie’s “Lu Ciel” sounds like Luna Sea’s “Selves”
Six guns is here! The gazette!
That's not plagiarism but influeced
Awwu ;n; I'd expect more from my favorite bands
Versailles... of course XD
Slayer angel of death was released at year 1986
Uhm no le encontré mucho parecido a las partes del numero 10... tal vez soy yo quien no tiene muy buen oído xD. En fin, buen top~.
Gracias por tu visita
Suena IGUAL a endless rain...que no tienes oido,tu?
Quizas ocupen la misma escala pero realmente solo se parecen en la terminacion que es usadisima en solos
Quizas ocupen la misma escala pero realmente solo se parecen en la terminacion que es usadisima en solos
I jumped when monochrome no kiss came on lololll
What about the opposite? Western bands that sound similar to Japanese bands/songs
Parte 4, tal vez...
angel of death from slayer - 2006???? its 1986
Deathgaze - Killing Floor, 2006 vs. Static X - Dead World, 2003
Deathgaze (Undead Fact) rip-off Waking the demon from Bullet for my valentine too hahaha
funny how nocturnal bloodlust turned off commenting on libra
do your research, Sadie used those riffs in CHILDREN OF DESPAIR 2006, Lycaon used it in 2008 as a breakdown for 1st degree. Since sadie recycles and and both 2011 gazette is the one stealing. 😂😂😂😂 at them ripping of sads, their fans need to choke on that and stfu
and the streerts have no name is very similar to heroes of david bowie, chord progression and vocal pharsing
Pls fix the date of Slayer song
Wow #1 I instantly recognized the song they copied lol
me too hahaha
How they got away with copying the entire concept though :D
Rasen from Mediena & Aishia from Valluna @.@
I wouldn't be too surprised, the Valluna/DIAURA fanboy vibes are pretty strong with Mediena. _Especially_ their vocalist.
グリーヴァに関してはどれもいける
True Grief is a clone of Yurameki :o
Slayer released way earlier then 2006
Angel of death 1986 !!!!!
stuff from sex machineguns is not plagiarism neither coincidence, it's pretended to be like that
pues el plagio Hubiera sido descarado si hubiesen sido malos plagios pero vaya que los mejoraron. VIVA EL VISUAL KEI
+nigth yun Hacer covers de viejas canciones, dándoles nuevo sonido, ritmo, o hasta género me parece genial. Pero un plagio es un plagio. ¿No crees?
Amo amis gazettos ñero debo decir que es coencidencia
You have to include mejibray. Vexent. Gossip. Sarigia because they copied gazette songs
The GazettE number one
Mejibray has rip off many melodies and riffs from other VK bands, there are many songs actually
in case of music videos i think that dir en grey's obscure is ripped off of malice mizer's illuminati - both vocalists see images of their bandmates doing some, well, obscure things to themselvess well to others. also whole plastic tree is like a japanese version of radiohead
+Mz. Monster Interesting point of view. Thanks for watching!
Ruder and Liberation sound so similar
Dafuq?! the word of title is about Plagiarism? Similarity, isn't it?
Don't you know the mean of these both word rightly?
And laruku is about what U2 made? Oh come on! Make a judge to the all band with things plagiarism
I mean it's not that different from Western pop culture as well.
I have one, Diary from Grieva and Jealous from Dir en grey, they are both EQUAL even in the PV, Grieva stole Dir en grey's stuff :/
Please, read about Grieva before said they stole stuff
+Victoria Montenegro All i need to know is that they are NOT a cover band, so if they use Dir en grey material without at least giving credits, that is stealing, sorry
+Shikamage Kun I'm sorry
+Victoria Montenegro Don't worry
+Shikamage Kun Tienes razón. Diary es un perfecto ejemplo de plagio "no disimulado", (de hecho la considere en el TOP 10 de plagio Nº 1) creo que hay limites en la inspiración para crear nuevas canciones; así como al interpretar covers o hacer versiones propias; o crear bandas "tributo", pero tristemente Grieva rebasa esos limites en más de una canción...
Ademas plagio es cuando toda la letra de la canción el igual al de la otra banda, que solo aca muestran solo una parte de la canción que es igual al de la otra. Eso no es plagio es coencidensia
no i think not
El número 1 es la copia barata de la Yurameki xD
Angel of death es del 86 mate wea
I can't believe this isn't a video about Yohio, everything Yohio does is copying! He has copied the looks of Versailles members, The GazettE members, Lycaon, SuG etc. Also he copies the music and such 😂😂😂
i honestly always think that the gazzette is overated,...i'm sorry the gazzette fans,...
+andri marpaung Sadly, it is true
+andri marpaung i think ur new in visual kei , you need to know more before talking about THE GAZETTE
Well, actually i mean that in whole japanese rock concept in general, but even so i guess my knowledge about visual kei isn't too bad either,...imo their song writing is so so, their skill is so so and rely too much in persona/gimmick rather than music itself,...to me nightmare, versailles/jupiter, and matenrou opera are better,...
+andri marpaung well thats why i've said u dont know alot about vkei or the gazette in general, back with time to 2007-2010 ans try to listen to the gazette or just take a lilte look at their new concept now, ive seen them live one months a go and their performance is beyond everything u've ever seen before, and ur suggestions show that u dont know alot about japanese music, atleast say d'espairsRay, ViViD or somthing but jupiter... are u serious ?!
+Ryuko kei well, to put it simply, my statement is that the Gazette are overrated, and to say some band is overrated means that there are other band that more deserve to be put on their place instead, that's why its pointless to mentioned vivid or d'espairsray which already disbanded,...
Que puta estupidez, no hace falta ser un genio para saber que principalmente en el heavy metal el sonido en cada cancion es similar imaginense si en alguna que otra banda no van a coincidir habiendo tantas en el mundo y en la hiatoria de dicho estilo, o tambien en el punk rock si ponen un diaco de Los Ramones y cualquier otra banda punk clasica como la argentina flema es lo mismo, no tiene sentido , y el de U2 con L'arc en ciel nada que ver encima el de larc en ciel en estudio empieza con un solo de bajo pero pusieron uno en vivo que lo hicieron ese dia diferente jajajaja payasos.
J-rock17 se parece a zero de vamps que in the air