It's very, VERY important for these grounded, authentic, well-spoken, intelligent transgenders to be interviewed in this kind of non-provocative, dumb-questions-are-okay kind of way. This actually changed my views drastically. Excellent interview and an excellent interviewee!
This is what trans people need in the media! Just a normal conversation that’s not riddled with politics. It really shows how trans people are like ‘you and me’
Hate is easy. To love, to understand, to accept, ... that shit is hard. That's why there's so much hate. It's the easiest thing in the world to do.
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it's not hate. but you have to understand most men will probably not want to make the mistake of getting him to bed and then getting told. hey i had a penis back in the day.
Not all hate him because to hate people is a sin but we should hate sin and not say that it is okay because it is not okay to live in sin. And if we are born men we should be men and if we are born women we should be women. And if you are straight and fornicate or commit adultery or get drunk you are guilty of sin as well but people who preach repentance love while non christians and false christians hate because they support people going to hell knowingly or unknowingly.
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it's not a sin to change sex. nowhere on the bible it says "you shall not change sex"
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why are vatican priests fkin little boys then? btw, we have evidence that man evolved from a single cell organism. it was not put on this earth as a man. your god said love your neighbour. so why are you judging them? that's a sin. it's not your place to say what god wants or not. it's his place to say so when we die. that's why he gave us free-will right? who are you to say what's wrong or right?
THIS woman is actually a great person to speak on trans topics. Wish there were more down to earth women like her getting the spotlight. more people might get a reasonable impression. and she's both clear and tactful on explaining things while being relaxed and approachable. I'd want to know her / connect some of my trans friends with her. she'd be a good influence on anyone
The problem is a lot of trans people trend towards hysterics because they have very difficult lives, more often than not their parents are disgusted by them, they lose friends, jobs etc etc and this cascade of bad shit happening can really just turn you into an unpleasant emotional person. You get these types that look outwardly (which is somewhat fair) and accuse anyone and everyone of some kind of moral wrong. This woman is very lucky she had/has the support network she clearly does and maybe if society as a whole was more open to this kinda thing we wouldn't have this ridiculously emotional political atmosphere we currently do.
Crazy people attract attention... That's why when someone talks about feminism they always assume it's radical feminism/marxist feminism as opposed to liberal/difference feminism... The only real notable person with liberal feminist positions (who self-identifies as a feminist despite recent controversies, although she refers to herself as an 'equity feminist') is Christina Hoff Sommers... And a big reason she gets attention is because of radical feminists inaccurately accusing her of not being a feminist when she's actually just not they're branch of feminism... And I don't even know of any notable difference feminists... Marxist feminists and radical feminists kinda mix together since they're both the sort to make debunked arguments like the wage gap or pink tax... At least, I assume marxist feminists make those arguments since it seems to fit their philosophy, though I haven't heard of a self-identifying Marxist Feminist... (There are more feminisms than four btw if you use a different typology)
@Christian Toth if you want to get down to the nitty gritty it just has to do with the masculinization or lack of masculinization of the brain in the second half of pregnancy. Even with XY genes if the womb has low testoserone levels in the second half, the brain will be female regardless of genitals which form in the first half. The brain is then hardwired to run better on estrogen in this case. It’s much more than just someone believing in fate lmao
Haha I think he's interested and is trying to get good answers out of them. What I can't tell half the time is if he's being serious or sort of using dry humor like all of his prank videos. I think he is trying to be serious though ;P
Everything about her, from the way she talks, to her calm personality, her laugh, everything is beautiful! Wish you all the happiness in life woman! :)
@@omercicjusuf50 Did you even watch the video? She has a vagina. Stop blinding yourself with tradition because YOU think something is wrong, when factually and scientifically she is a women, all but a select few severe medical documents as well as genetics. Otherwise she hold many more traits and attributes, from hormones, to organs, to brain usage, to being a woman than else.
And something about her eyes makes me want to cry, in a good way? wtf? Like she has this sincere, super friendly look in them with a hint of I've been through some heavy stuff kind of feel to them.
This interview changed my mind. This is one of the most unbiased, eye opening interviews I’ve ever seen. You have to respect this woman’s request to be called a woman: She’s not some dude in a wig forcing us to call him a woman. She is all about it to the core. We actually get to see a happy, normal trans person rather than some crazy lunatic trans which the media always shows. It’s not our business how other people feel about certain things as long as they are serious. This isn’t a cry for attention, she genuinely couldn’t control this growing up.
Sanat Divekar ye but the crazy ones are listened to. So you should be concerned, and dont get fooled just because you see a nice transgender person. And that goes for any human.
Sanat Divekar Someone can prefer words but they're just asking you to lie for them or speak a made up language with new definitions. Would I do it? Probably yes lol
The difference between him and other guys who wants to call themselves girls are nothing. She just put more effort in shaping her looks, may be sad but true
As a biology student i can confirm her statement.(about everyone starting out as female). When we are in the womb we are technically female, until males( having the Y chromosome) develop a woolffian gland which releases male hormones which starts their transition into a male.
Maksie0 Lol the way you losers defending this progressive bullshit. So you’re literally saying mainstream media is against progressive/liberal agenda? What’s wrong with you parasites?
Kekistani Soldier the ability to have children doesn't define the gender you are. There are sooo many cis women (women, who were born as women) who are infertile and can't have children. I don't think you would stop calling them women because of that
It's probably bad but when he said 'TRANSFORM' I laughed so hard I cried. Come on Andrew she's not a fucking Decepticon hahaha. Rated the Interview, very genuine.
The only people embarrassing themselves around here are you guys who think people who chop their dicks off are inspirational. As for treatment? I would say see a psychiatrist.
Thanks for making this, Andrew. My husband is transgender and you would never guess it. Videos and media like this are what people need. It helps people understand and realize that trans people are just that...people. 🤷♀️
Will Taylor I don’t know if that’s you in the picture but I’m just going to say it Your cute! I know you may not be gay but I don’t care had to say it :p
I'm halfway through but I really felt the need to say that I love how she is meeting his questions without throwing crazy amounts of technical information at him or making it political. She is the perfect person to have this discussion with. I would have never guessed she was assigned male at birth. Lovely woman inside and out :)
well she wasn't just randomly "assigned male at birth"...it's the standard that your gender identity will match your sex given that trans people are rare
FACT: HATE crime is ONLY a crime if you can show 100% physical proof of bodily harm. There must be damage control and it must be visible eternally or internally in the human being. FACT: MOST people do not hate people. MOST people keep to themselves. MOST people seek to avoid conflict. MOST people do not have enough time in their day nor effort to willingly seek to hurt people. MOST people work 8 - 12 hours a day, come home and rest. MOST hate occur randomly (by small chance) when you are in the wrong place at the wrong time and (both people) lack critical thinking skills resulting in HATE COMMUNICATION at that instance in time.
no one hates transgender people ... people hate getting tricked, being forced to change their whole pronoun game up because someone wants to identify as something else, or people being offended for the general population not knowing that someone who looks like 99% of males, but is wearing womens clothing, *needs* to be called a women because they identify as that.. even though they look and sound nothing like what we have been taught a women sounds like. thats what they hate. if you want to identify as something - cool. but don't expect people to read your mind and guess what you want to be. do I have a right to get pissed at you if you say 'yes sir' because I look like a male, sound like a male, and have a penis , but in my mind I identify as a dolphin. I feel like a dolphin. no one understands. but do I have the right to take that out on people because they cannot read my mind and they have naturally and understandably assimilated typical characteristics and gender norms to a schema that has been learned through repetition from birth. be real.
I'm not against transgenders, but the way I understand their point of view goes like this: Trans people identify as something other than their observable biological gender. A person thinking ''I am a woman'' whilst also having male genitalia and a Y chromosome seems utterly paradoxical. The solution to the imbalance between body and mind is not to correct the body, because the body cannot be altered without massive physical surgeries and hormone treatment. Even if those alterations are made, they can't change the fact that they have a Y chromosome/two X chromosomes. The mental identity cannot be observed be outsiders the same way genitalia can, and that would mean you're sacrificing obserervable physical realities in order to facilitate for a person's own subjective, non-physical identity. The solution would be to alter the person's own perception, which would be healthier, less invase and would also not require having to ''knock the slats'' out of several hundred years of cultural perception on gender/sex as well as not having to ignore scientific realities like that fact that sex and gender are profoundly linked together. The fatal flaw in this argument IMO is that gender identity also manifests itself in certain brain circuitry. Which means that trans women have the same brain circuits as cis women and trans men have the same brain curcuits as cis men. Basically meaning that altering the mental state would definitely not necessarily be healthier for the person involved, but I don't think there's been any research done on that, so who knows.
Xeper-I-Set I’ve heard a little bit about all of what you said, actually. I don’t see how chromosomes would really be a good argument against it, due to the ‘brain-circuitry’ argument pretty much doing the exact opposite of what the chromosome argument does Thankyou! C:
Sex and gender are not scientifically linked together in ways like sex indicates gender, biology of the body creates gender just like sex, that means that biology created their own different physiology of the brain and their identification. The healthier is of course the transition, but the point is to achieve result in more natural ways, that's where science is lacking, but is working on, so the DNA and the molecular structure of the body could be changed. Why is it wrong to transition, well it isn't, when you consider how many people are born with all kinds of defects that require surgery already immediately after birth, or some intersex people who to take hormones for the rest of their lives because they would not survive. One has to understand in case of transsexuals (the term transgenders is misleading) that with their intersexed brain their body is not completely healthy or "balanced" in traditional ways, because body includes the brain, the head is not separate, it is all part of biology. Just because externally it is not seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist, some intersex people (non transsexual) have to take hormones externally as well, their body can seem healthy too, but it is not. It is at its roots physiological issue, not mental. That's how it has been widely observed in scientific circles since 1979. Sometimes when people don't transition soon enough more and more psychological problems start piling up, that's why one could say many of them can seem unstable, when the truth is so much deeper. The psyche becomes imbalanced because the body itself is imbalanced, that includes body's hormones rushing to the opposite gender brain, all comes as a reflection of something that is already inbred in their biology.
It's my belief you should play with the cards you are dealt. The body is as it is, and to change it is only superficial, a transgender woman can pull every trick in the book to look like a woman, but they will not be able to give birth. Sure, some real women cannot have kids through some reason or another, but that's just unfortunate in the same way losing a leg is unfortunate. An infertile female and a transgender female are NOT the same thing. The mind is plastic and can be changed with work and encouragement. That is what should be addressed. I'm not denying people identify a miss-match between their mind and their body, but why change the body? That's like having a fully working mac book with windows installed on it, and instead of just reformatting and installing OSX all the mac book components are switched out to create a cheap third party windows laptop consisting of non-genuine Chinese knock off parts that LOOK like the real thing, but don't perform anything like it. To be a little more personally vulnerable about this, there are a lot of things I hate about myself that surgery could fix, and yes, the idea does come across my mind, it IS tempting. But to turn to surgery would be to lose the war, instead I'll work on those things mentally. I'll make up for what I lack physically in other ways, and after the long hard battle when I have earned what I desire in life I'll have closure. I'm sure if I had surgery it would fix NOTHING. Even if that particular problem was fixed I'd just replace it with something else. It is a psychological issue, not a physical issue. I believe the same to be true for transgenders.
As I see it, it is not recognized as a psychological issue by scientists and medical professionals for decades, and gender dysphoria is fixed by surgery, that's why it is used as a treatment and not as some plastic surgery for one's vanity, two different things, which some people probably seem to believe it is the same? but I understand what you mean, but there's a reason why psychologically it has never been cured... I'm talking about real ts people, not those whose gender dysphoria disappeared with age, in those cases that's not severe physiological malfunction and changes by natural growth. Infertile woman and transgender woman are not the same, yes, but are the same in terms of physical handicap. Both happen on the inside. Brain is as much physical and biological as any other part of the body. Trans person can change their mind, but it will not disappear, because it is not an impulse or a feeling, it is a sense of who they are. So it is a question if one is willing to be true to themselves or not, not whether they can change their mind about being trans, that's nonsense, considering that they are born trans. It's like forcing someone heterosexual into being homosexual and vice versa. The cards we are dealt are sometimes death after birth unless we are helped medically. Do we choose to treat some illness or just let it be and die? That's the same case, we are constantly changing our bodies as we go on in life, through treatrments, foods, exercises. One can not treat someone psychologically when the root cause comes from something physiological that causes distress, it is like putting a patch over something, but never really healing anything, in my experience it is superficial and never works for a good reason. When you are bleeding, you don't change your mind and do nothing, you retain some kind of self love and help yourself. It seems like most people simply don't understand it, it's not like some sexual orientation or an impulse to smoke or drink alcohol. It's literally physical through smell, touch, hearing and seeing... this is a philosophical lesson for humankind in my view, to learn what it is to be true to ourselves, and how the outside physical material existence does not control our lives, that includes society or body. They literally follow Einstein's idea, that reality is an illusion, all that exists is God and spirit in our heart, our true invisible self. This is one of the examples why ts people have been highly respected in our ancient cultures, they've been teachers, and I believe the generally higher intelligence of these people is no coincidence, only an indication of that. That's my own perspective.
Jordan Peterson has said he has and would use a person's preferred pronoun. His issue is with the government compelling speech, which is in direct contrast to free speech. Very big difference.
Absolutely. As a cis trans supporter, I think forcing people to speak a certain way by law is wrong. For an example, dispite my beliefs siding with the trans community, I dont believe in saying things grammatically incorrect just because people want to be refered to as a fake tumblr gender. With that being said, I understand gender is a spectrum and like, just out of respect, I will call someone by their prefered pronoun. Even if its a fake one. Doesnt effect me in any way. I don't agree with it but there is no reason for me to not be respectful.
You're right....unlike Andrew, who brought up the pronoun conversation without any idea what he was talking about, it didn't fit the context of the discussion or have any relevance to his guest (she identifies positively as a female, and isn't part of the gender neutrality discussion) ... typical Hales style lol
Most Transsexuals are well grounded and easy going people. The media seizes on the worst of the worst, as do bigots and transphobes. The haters focus on transgender individuals who are not as much as average examples of Transsexuals.
@Malt Liquor Reviews transgender people tend to have different brain structures. Meaning, a guy who really feels like he is a woman generally isn't just making it up, but he really feels like he is a woman. Brain scans have shown that men who say they feel like women actually have brains that are closer to a woman's brain compared to a man's brain.
@Malt Liquor Reviews You can try to deny reality all you want. But thats what science how shown us. Its normal for transgender people to feel the way they do because of their brain structure.
My philosophy is that if someone presents themselves to you as a woman then I treat them like a woman. Same goes for a man. There's no reason to hate someone for doing this. She's a beautiful woman and that's that.
At the age of four you know fuck all.. a lot of parents encourage it and support the 4yr old as if the child knows better. You made a fucking huge Life choice at the age of 4. You wouldn't let a 4yr old get a tattoo..... but would let them decide things like this? Crazy shit man. A 4YR OLD.
@@edshot87 She didn't transition until after highschool. That's past 18. She obviously stated she knew by the age of 4 and explained her whole upbringing and thought process. You obviously watched 2 minutes and jumped straight to the comments with an unfactual, heavily biased and uneducated opinion.
@Bonidee Lee She is a female, and lots of science points that to be true. The only thing she remains male is in certain severe medical documents and genetics. Otherwise she retains every biological making of a woman, including brain, hormones, organs, shape, etc. Why fight science with your blind eye because of tradition and because YOU deem it wrong?
@backtodafuture1987 She has 100x more female attributes than most females you probably know. She is obviously already a women, and is considered to by science and most people. She is only considered male on severe medical documents and genetics. Why fight science and blind yourself because YOU deem it wrong?
This is amazing. I'm a transguy - I was really hoping you would interview someone who was trans. You have a great way of talking to people. Very accessible.
Great interview! I send nothing but love, support, & best wishes for Isley. She's a very smart woman with a big heart & good head on her shoulders. I'm so glad she found her happiness. I can totally relate to her. Very inspiring! I'm a mtf (age 22) & I have body/gender dysphoria & am currently transitioning via HRT, laser hair removal, cosmetic treatments, & eventually surgery. it's a very sad & hard medical/psychological condition I wouldn't wish on anyone. But at some point we have to accept ourselves & begin to live. We all only live one life. Why spend it suffering. Just like Isley, I want to become happy, healthy, productive, & comfortable in my own body. Regardless if you understand or support trans people, everyone can agree with my above statement.
I really enjoyed this interview. He asked questions I would want to ask or have answered about being Trans. In fact I had no idea we all as humans start out as female in the womb. She seems very grounded and I am very happy that she is herself and loves herself and can be best person she can be.
Catota A lot of people in America are not theists, a lot are what some call a closet atheist, they might go to church with their family and tell their family they are religious because they are scared of what they’ll think if they tell them they are an atheist. You might be surprised at the number of atheists in America.
Waffles And Bacon! scared of what? it's not like they're in a muslim culture and they'll kill you for being an atheist, simply most Americans need more education, no offense, just look at your presidents, if they're not christian, they don't even get elected.
She is so awesome!! I love how chill she is, and I honestly would NEVER ever guess she was born male! She seems like a beautiful person, inside and out!
This is the first video I've seen of yours and wow, you genuinely care, and interested to learn. All the comments too, the topic of transgenderism is something I'm very affected and part of, so seeing so many out of loop open to learn is beautiful.
I can't believe the amount of hate these people get. So many dislikes compared to the other videos. Why all the hate? It takes a lot of courage, dealing with crap, jumping through hoops, and risking harsh social judgement for someone like her to achieve something most of us just take for granted. I doubt most people would even have the guts and determination to do something equivalent.
@NIKOS Who's "they"? If you're talking about the reactionary radicals from Twitter and Tumblr, etc., that's not fair to say as they don't make up the whole LGBT community.
I mean like if someone just goes out of his way to call her by male pronouns are just rude because honestly she looks like a normal woman, not a drag queen or non binary fluid crap
So many rude people in these comments going out of their way to call her "him", if it didn't state "trans" in the title they'd never even know lol. They're just spiteful. Btw, non binary and gender fluid, although confusing are actually not some obnoxious label. People who are often mentally stuck between not knowing whether they may be trans or not often refer to themselves as one of the aforementioned terms because they're not mentally comfortable with male, female, or trans. You wouldn't know that they are non binary if they don't tell you.
This video was eye opening. While I have always resisted and pushed trangenders out of my reality, I have now been able to accept them as a person. While I still am not attracted to them and wouldn't have sexual relations with them, it is a conscious preference of choosing not to, while still accepting them as people, not from resistance coming from ignorance and disgust.
This is very stupid. If someone thinks they should be the opposite gender, you should do counselling rather than cutting off his body parts. What would you do if a normal person believes that they are actually an amputee?(yes, people like that actually exist) do you cut off their arms and legs? great! Let us just start cutting every mentally ill patient's body parts. Some people think they're made out of wool. Let us start putting wool in their body. This is disturbing. This is a psychological problem, not a physical problem. No matter if you cut off the penis or the testis, he still has an X and a Y chromosome which is literally the combination of a male. Such is the stupidity in the west. The west is so developed in technology, military but you're so fucked up when it comes to simple biology. I really feel sorry for that person. It's not her/his fault. It is the society that has let him down.
Azamat Bagatov you have to go through therapy before you can ever start hrt. People have tried conversion therapy but it leaves many depressed or worse. If someone has gender dysphoria this is the best course of action.
@BarrierBoy I suffer from Bipolar Disorder as well. All we need to do is take our meds and learn coping mechanisms to appear "normal". I found out 3 years ago that brain surgeons and the psychological field had given up trying to cure Bipolar Disorder. I found that out in college Psych class. The Disorder part is worse than having a disease. Know why? Because doctors don't understand it like they do understand diseases. The life disruption doesn't have to last long. You're not alone. 45% of humanity, and growing fast, suffer from a mental illness. I view my Bipolar Disorder as a super power. It's given me a unique view of people and taught me how to use my adrenaline whenever I want. Made me fearless. Hugs!
Azamat some people are XO, some are XXY i personally am XY and i have testes where ovaries should be, but was born with a vagina and developed entirely as a female, because i cant process testosterone, i was assigned female at birth update your understanding of sex, theres more to sex then "XX = female, XY = male hurr durr"
But what if you met a trans girl, was attracted to her had a good conversation realised you liked the person, possibly even went on a date, and then at the end of the meeting she said 'oh btw I am trans and was born male. You still had that attraction because you didnt know until you where told and assumed she was a cis-gender female. In that case you would of experienced attraction to a trans woman and only after finding out suddenly your not? Thats something that is born out of insecurities and societies prejudice that has been placed on trans people. If they still had a penis I could understand but any post-op trans girl is in most cases indistinguishable from a cis-gendered female. Just dont have a womb or ovaries. So to say your not attracted Is fundamentally wrong because you probably couldnt tell unless you were told by a trans person who is fully transitioned and any changes in attraction from then would be born of either your own or societies ingrained prejudices.
MrCesarM XD well the same could be said for any other group of people. Nobody really cares about what feminists have to say yet they always flout their opinions
Lord of Frog’s backup dancer True. On that note, let's just say that many people from all generations, subcultures and groups like to make their opinions heard even tho nobody really cares. Can't believe i generalized before, what a dumbass, i should know better.
What a wonderfully refreshing video!! Thank you so much for those questions and answers exchanged in a kind, frank and understaning way, with no 'axe grinding'!! We know a couple of trans men and I can't see wnhy anyone could do anything but support and love them! Sad world, eh? It has to be said that you look really lovely and come across as a very open and giving lass! Bless your heart..... XXXX LOve from the UK
@@tomholt1080 It completely affects my life, it is destroying the definition of man and woman. But assuming it didn't affect my life, as much as it wouldn't affect my life to call someone who is not a woman, a woman, it wouldn't affect you as much for me to not call them by the sex that they think they are, words are meant for actual objective logic and set-in-stone definition, not social obligations and feelings. Just because i don't agree to the idea that a transgender should be called the sex they aren't, (although i can see trans-female or trans-male being alright), doesn't mean i have anything against these people on a personal level, i have talked to some trans people and at least from what i've seen they seem like pretty levelheaded and kind, but i just don't agree with that specific idea is all, for example i disagree with my mother on some opinions, but i still love her to death, because i had gone by her words that she's told me as a child, and that was "agree to disagree", an opinion is just that, it doesn't always have to be a statement for if you hate someone or love someone.
This person is beautiful and smart.. Fuck, as a straight male I wouldn't find it difficult to love this person as a significant other. She's blessed and I hope she enjoys her life. :)
I love the respect Andrew gives everyone in these interviews. I believe it is what sets this show aside from others. People feel comfortable enough to be themselves. This has to be my favorite show to I have started following on RUclips and I hope it doesn't stop anytime soon!❤
@@Mark-ob8jd Don't you know that the female is the base model for the human race and we all start off that way in the womb? It's the Y chromosome that changes females into males and sometimes things go wrong. A woman has a pair of XX chromosomes and the male, XY, but you can have XXY people who have female characteristics, or even XXXY as in the case of Caroline Cossy who starred in a James Bond movie. Conversely, there are XYY men who tend to me extremely aggressive and quite often violent. These people usually end up in prison doing lengthy prison sentences. So, this particular transgender lady will definitely have a better life as a female and should be treated with respect, but I agree that big hairy transvestites look better as men and should stay that way.
This was quite eye opening for me. I've never actually seen or spoken to an actual transgender person before. The only ones I had seen were the "queen" types who get the media attention and are the ones who get slated a lot. Honestly when I saw a "trans person" dressed up with devil horns reading to little kids looking like something out of frankenstein I really was not okay with that, it was actually scary tbh. So thanks for sharing I guess, I really didn't know there were 'normal' trans people out there if that makes sense. Helps me understand them a lot more. One thing though, I found it interesting that she said she naturally had low Testosterone as a child, I do wonder what might've happened if she'd been treated with extra testosterone instead of estrogen, would she have felt more comfortable as a man, and lived happily as a man, with the added test? Sorry if that's inappropriate but I think it's a fair enough question that probably can't be answered
Chris Wyles the extra t would most likely have made her physically more masculine but mentally she would still have felt feminine, its usually a two part thing when it comes to trans people
@@azeavers6039 does test not affect the hormones in your brain as much as your physicality? Guys with higher test think and act in a more masculine way as well as having more masculine physical structures. Makes me think of guys in the gym on test and other gear who become hyper-masculanised, way more agressive, loud, and generally OTT. Also more elderly gentleman on HRT to get their libido, energy and drive back which all men lose as you age due to not producing as much test and its well known to bring them back into balance so to speak. They mostly report improvements in all areas of their masculine identity, just google scholar it I cba to link it haha. I don't wanna push anyone's buttons but it's an interesting thought, if I say so myself haha.
@GotDRAMAbringit yh I am speculating, if I can't ask questions then what is the point?? I don't really know anything about trans people and presumably you would want someone like me to learn? Instead of having a go maybe just answer the question which you eventually do. Plus, you don't know and can't say what her life might've been like, it seems like a less drastic measure. I just don't understand how people are born thinking they should be a different gender. I'm not saying they don't, I'm saying I don't understand it and I'm trying to. No other creature in nature (that isn't capable of naturally shifting gender) seems to have animals that posses traits, behaviours or an observable desire to act and be like the opposite gender. Why is it just humans that are like that? And to answer some of your points. I think there is a definite over eagerness to diagnose somebody with gender dysphoria and I am not trying to "subtly" suggest anything, merely asking what might have happened. Suicide rates are far higher among trans people who have transitioned than any other group in society which seems suspect to me and indicative of deeper mental health problems among many trans people of which gender dysphoria may be a symptom. There is one known bodybuilder who is openly trans, I know nothing about the person and i'm not particularly into bodybuilding so in short I have no idea what has lead to them making that decision.
Chris Wyles- But why speculate: Why does it have to be something " MIGHT of happen" to other ppl who are not like you.? This is usually speculations that come from ppl who still think and believe there's a solution to this other than transitioning. You also completely ignored studies of the transgender brain have been done before, brain activity and structure in transgenders more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender, normally happens at a young age. There definitely also ppl who transitioned for the wrong reasons and were not trans to begin with and found another solution elsewhere while blaming the system and the trans-community because of the results they got. That's due to some ppl transitioned because they are confusing a molestation to gender, also there's ppl who transition to make money, there's ppl who de-transition for religion and there's ppl who are confused sheep. But the percentage of these ppl are rare and low. Any person who claims to be trans needs to go to psychiatric evaluations first before such treatments and it's a gender disorder. All hormone medication is under control by an Endocrinologists. Psychiatrists and Endocrinologists are generally reluctant to provide hormone therapy to youths under 16. At the end though adults have a choice to make wether to transition or not, ppl should take responsibility for their OWN actions and NOT blame the system that they got brain washed. Or come up with the "I think there is a definite over eagerness to diagnose somebody with gender dysmorphia" The eagerness you're talking is being twisted by ppl like you. The eagerness is to make ppl accept themselves and come out as trans if they truly are without fear and to educate society if they're interested. "Suicide rates are far higher among trans people who have transitioned" that's completely bogus. Why is suicide rate higher ? Why trans kill themselves has nothing to do with the surgery or hormone therapy. That's a false conspiracy theory. Yes and 99% of them suffering depression because of the social pressure, that's how suicide happens among trans people, how do I know, because I've been visiting their group sessions for years with 100's of them and know that all depressive thoughts have been greatly increased by the judgmental treatment of society. Depression is a result of gender dysphoria at first, until they start transition which is so far the only most effective treatment that's curing it, but once the society start spreading the hatred around them, running away from them, etc, it greatly increases depression on top of it, it's a timing bomb waiting to explode at that point. Anyone with mild depression is a lot more sensitive than others, what society basically does, is they beat them when they're down, figuratively and also literally often. One can just ask all the therapists treating them who know this very well, one gets a very good picture, and it is usually only trans people who know this. Depression rarely happens outside the influence of society anyway, we all are connected, we influence each other all the time, we are all responsible for the well being of others to some extent. Morever, all the people who detransition have never been transsexuals, transition determines a diagnosis whether they are even trans in the first place, it's a diagnosis by treatment, that's why detransition is a necessary part of it, diagnosis has several stages, pre-transition and post-transition. It's also important to realize based on countless of research that suicide is greatly reduced after transition... and most of this statistics come from trans people pre-transition anyway, that's why such treatment has been recommended in the first place, because it does work. You would be ignorant if you think there's no more bodybuilders conflicted with their gender identity or who like to cross-dress! - I work in the mental field
so if i express myself by continually harassing someone at work or someone that's a tenant of mine with malicious intent the government should have nothing to do with this? do you reject the entire notion of 'protected classes'?
Very cool, nice, transgender woman. I love how she is so open talking about herself. I'm gay and I sadly knew a transgender woman who had a very hard time while transitioning. Being cisgender (not trans) she was very offended by almost every single thing I said. I could not ask her one question without her being offended. You see, the questions I might have asked were not offensive, not about her top or bottom surgeries, I'd just be supportive. One might think I must have said something terrible. Any "slight" way of not saying something in a politically correct perfect way was met with anger, rage and eventually abandonment. I still try to empathize. :-/
So glad I ran across this interview with this amazing young lady.. I love Isley ! She is quite a Renaissance Woman with many talented qualities. You are soo Lovely... Literally and Figuratively. Stay Safe and Well in Iceland. Namaste🙏
I would not have guessed that she was born male honestly
Worf you’re probably transgender and you wouldn’t know it..
You must not be close to many women.
Worf that stature though
If you knew any anatomy, you would be able to tell that the proportions are off for a woman
Mi Les Not to mention there are points where you can see "her" Adam's apple.
It's very, VERY important for these grounded, authentic, well-spoken, intelligent transgenders to be interviewed in this kind of non-provocative, dumb-questions-are-okay kind of way. This actually changed my views drastically. Excellent interview and an excellent interviewee!
You changed your mind because she is passable and find her attractive.
Shawn Saul, no. because of how she presents herself and her thoughts. That's the deciding factor. Could be audio only and have that impact.
Just a quibble, but "transgender" is an adjective, not a noun.
People get confused because "transsexual" can be used as a noun!
Couldnt have worded it any better. Very view changing.
Jeesh. Bonidee Lee and all the other transphobes are so cringy and spastic.
This is what trans people need in the media! Just a normal conversation that’s not riddled with politics. It really shows how trans people are like ‘you and me’
Exactly !!
@@EclipsedEmpires so are some people who aren't transgender. Try again.
@@EclipsedEmpires Science disagrees. Also, thank god they're not like you, imagine a world filled with ignorant, hateful people like yourself
@@TheCatLady65 Thanks Simone
You get a cookie for trans rights 😤✊ 🏳️🌈
@@MapleMilk cringe
How could anyone hate someone who just wants to be themselves and have self love
Hate is easy. To love, to understand, to accept, ... that shit is hard. That's why there's so much hate. It's the easiest thing in the world to do.
it's not hate. but you have to understand most men will probably not want to make the mistake of getting him to bed and then getting told. hey i had a penis back in the day.
Not all hate him because to hate people is a sin but we should hate sin and not say that it is okay because it is not okay to live in sin. And if we are born men we should be men and if we are born women we should be women. And if you are straight and fornicate or commit adultery or get drunk you are guilty of sin as well but people who preach repentance love while non christians and false christians hate because they support people going to hell knowingly or unknowingly.
it's not a sin to change sex.
nowhere on the bible it says "you shall not change sex"
why are vatican priests fkin little boys then?
btw, we have evidence that man evolved from a single cell organism. it was not put on this earth as a man.
your god said love your neighbour. so why are you judging them? that's a sin. it's not your place to say what god wants or not. it's his place to say so when we die. that's why he gave us free-will right? who are you to say what's wrong or right?
This chatting with series is really great Andrew
It is awesome!
I can't get over how good the series is; my only problem is that I wish the videos were longer!
He's not pushing for critical answers so it's just another feelings based convo
Remy Myer skyraider
Fuck u
This person seems genuinely nice
The overwhelming majority of transgender people are.
People IN GENERAL are pretty nice. It's when you bring in politics, religion, morality, etc. that heads butt.
how do people glorify being transgender?
Cameron Getty by giving Caitlin Jenner woman of the year award.
Alex VonBerg
Not transtrenders, tucutes or genderspecials
"Do they lactate ", Andrew just says anything that comes to mind🤣🤣🤣
can i squeeze them?
Ryan Myers Hilarious
Yes, in fact like other adoptive Mother's, some Transsexual women choose to breastfeed their babies.
@@annemarietobias Men do not have lactating glands, they can never produce milk.
@@xelaphilia I'm afraid to tell you that you're very uneducated as science disagrees with you, whether you're a trans women or a cis men
THIS woman is actually a great person to speak on trans topics.
Wish there were more down to earth women like her getting the spotlight. more people might get a reasonable impression.
and she's both clear and tactful on explaining things while being relaxed and approachable. I'd want to know her / connect some of my trans friends with her. she'd be a good influence on anyone
The problem is a lot of trans people trend towards hysterics because they have very difficult lives, more often than not their parents are disgusted by them, they lose friends, jobs etc etc and this cascade of bad shit happening can really just turn you into an unpleasant emotional person. You get these types that look outwardly (which is somewhat fair) and accuse anyone and everyone of some kind of moral wrong. This woman is very lucky she had/has the support network she clearly does and maybe if society as a whole was more open to this kinda thing we wouldn't have this ridiculously emotional political atmosphere we currently do.
Shes only great cause shes "passable"
He is just a man pretending to be a woman.
Crazy people attract attention... That's why when someone talks about feminism they always assume it's radical feminism/marxist feminism as opposed to liberal/difference feminism... The only real notable person with liberal feminist positions (who self-identifies as a feminist despite recent controversies, although she refers to herself as an 'equity feminist') is Christina Hoff Sommers... And a big reason she gets attention is because of radical feminists inaccurately accusing her of not being a feminist when she's actually just not they're branch of feminism... And I don't even know of any notable difference feminists... Marxist feminists and radical feminists kinda mix together since they're both the sort to make debunked arguments like the wage gap or pink tax... At least, I assume marxist feminists make those arguments since it seems to fit their philosophy, though I haven't heard of a self-identifying Marxist Feminist...
(There are more feminisms than four btw if you use a different typology)
"This MAN...." you mean, not woman.
Props to this guy for really making an effort to educate himself on different issues. More people should do the same! :)
SavannahOohNana Legit gives him a extra prop change to him in a game of prop hunt😂
Yeah let me just invite some women, ex murderers, ex rapists. ex dogs, ex pancakes or ex pornstars into my house and tell them I want to talk.
Nah I’m good
Why? Nobody has to learn jack shit about them to function in life. Its right up there with learning how to skeet shoot or how to play the bagpipes
SHE'S A WOMAN NOW OH MY GOD DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING SHE SAID
Beautiful. The part where she said she was 8 years old praying to God to wake up as who she was meant to be, really tugged at my heart.
@Christian Toth if you want to get down to the nitty gritty it just has to do with the masculinization or lack of masculinization of the brain in the second half of pregnancy. Even with XY genes if the womb has low testoserone levels in the second half, the brain will be female regardless of genitals which form in the first half. The brain is then hardwired to run better on estrogen in this case. It’s much more than just someone believing in fate lmao
I love how *monotone* Andrew is, its so hard to tell if he is actually interested but I feel like he's genuine
Haha I think he's interested and is trying to get good answers out of them. What I can't tell half the time is if he's being serious or sort of using dry humor like all of his prank videos. I think he is trying to be serious though ;P
He sounds like he is baked.
Pretty sure he mentioned in a video before that he does the monotone thing on purpose.
Everything about her, from the way she talks, to her calm personality, her laugh, everything is beautiful! Wish you all the happiness in life woman! :)
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@@omercicjusuf50 Did you even watch the video? She has a vagina. Stop blinding yourself with tradition because YOU think something is wrong, when factually and scientifically she is a women, all but a select few severe medical documents as well as genetics. Otherwise she hold many more traits and attributes, from hormones, to organs, to brain usage, to being a woman than else.
And something about her eyes makes me want to cry, in a good way? wtf? Like she has this sincere, super friendly look in them with a hint of I've been through some heavy stuff kind of feel to them.
Eyes that angle down on the outside make people appear friendlier than eyes that don't :)
Didn’t really like feminists before chatting with a feminist. Didn’t really like transgenders before this. Duuude, you’re changing opinions here
Ринат Диев, это да.
that's because most of the time u see feminists or trans gendered people in the media its the crazy ones.
Well Christina Hoff Summers isn't actually a feminist you were just agreeing with an MRA funded by conservative thinktanks.
lockstock
It seems you're one of those radical feminists.
If you think anyone who can accurately describe Christina Hoff Summers is radical you're on the same level as people who call Obama a communist.
I feel like I understand transgender people a bit better now. Thank you for doing this interview, Andrew and Isley!
I honestly like how real every interview he does is like they can be so awkward but it makes it real haha
Hello
This interview changed my mind. This is one of the most unbiased, eye opening interviews I’ve ever seen. You have to respect this woman’s request to be called a woman: She’s not some dude in a wig forcing us to call him a woman. She is all about it to the core. We actually get to see a happy, normal trans person rather than some crazy lunatic trans which the media always shows. It’s not our business how other people feel about certain things as long as they are serious. This isn’t a cry for attention, she genuinely couldn’t control this growing up.
That’s the thing though. Most transgender people aren’t like this lol.
Sanat Divekar ye but the crazy ones are listened to.
So you should be concerned, and dont get fooled just because you see a nice transgender person.
And that goes for any human.
Sanat Divekar Someone can prefer words but they're just asking you to lie for them or speak a made up language with new definitions. Would I do it? Probably yes lol
Zack have you ever tried going out and socializing with real people
The difference between him and other guys who wants to call themselves girls are nothing. She just put more effort in shaping her looks, may be sad but true
chatting with someone with severe depression
Cheddar Cheese lmao it’s just andrew by himself
i dont think that would be possible xD
Cheddar Cheese I volunteer
Tiago Tralhao-Smith agree
HAHHAHA omg true
His face when she told him that everybody starts as a female in the womb 😂
Dude questioned his sexuality
"everyone starts out female"
Andrew: they do?....ಠ_ಠ
Don’t think that’s accurate
Not really accurate, no. It's considered a gender neutral state, but it resembles more a female visually, that's probably why she said it.
As a biology student i can confirm her statement.(about everyone starting out as female). When we are in the womb we are technically female, until males( having the Y chromosome) develop a woolffian gland which releases male hormones which starts their transition into a male.
Isn't that his face always?
@@euphoriabyart2343 Correct, that's why men too have the nipples, even though there's no use for them on their bodies.
She is so authentic and fulfilled. The complete opposite of the crazy SWJs that go viral
It's because the "crazy SJWs" are a minority that only really get brought up by people who want to attack progressive ideas.
chapeau to that name, you just made me smile
Maksie0, they also bring themselves up pretty actively....
Maksie0 Lol the way you losers defending this progressive bullshit. So you’re literally saying mainstream media is against progressive/liberal agenda? What’s wrong with you parasites?
yep, he definitely is. Quite refreshing
Just rename this to Adventures on Tinder part 2
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Or, "Kinky tinder dates turned into series"
Fucking legendary.
Or "part 1 of 2"..u know what I'm talking about
4:37 "Everyone starts out as female? Oh wow..." *gazes into the abyss*
”hmm... Pop in the blueray works on everyone”
In the womb men's goodies are pushed up into where a women's ovaries are but some where in devolpment your goodies drop into the sack
is this actually true? lol I find it hard to believe
@@kellinquinnfangirl Do your research. Become enlightened. :)
Barber: So what you want
LAHWF: Wolveri-
Barber: SAY NO MORE
Motivation Man lmao!😂
Andrew has some sort of Wolverine hair swag going on...
Arturo Gabriel it looks good though tbh
Haha omggg I love it
looks friggin hilarious. dont know how she took him seriously
Wait, what? She looks GENUINELY like a woman, sounds like a woman, her transition has been remarkable.
Ramit Inmah Ashol her voice would probably be the thing that gives it away the most
He is still not a woman cuz he cant have babies just accept science!
Most trans people are like that. It is drag queens that give trans people a bad reputation.
Kekistani Soldier the ability to have children doesn't define the gender you are. There are sooo many cis women (women, who were born as women) who are infertile and can't have children. I don't think you would stop calling them women because of that
But not a woman
Chatting with Kim Jong Un
There's a movie about that.
lovely
I would pay a great deal of money to see that.
Moron
LMFAO
Excellent interview.
That woman is very smart,balance,grounded and classy person.
and the interviewer refers to her as 'he' at the start
she's a trans-woman get it straight.
@KebenaranBukanMilikAndaAtaupunSaya not how it works ya bimbo
Because she is male
It's probably bad but when he said 'TRANSFORM' I laughed so hard I cried.
Come on Andrew she's not a fucking Decepticon hahaha.
Rated the Interview, very genuine.
HadSta That part made me giggle. I was like... transform... into a butterfly?
Same
lmfao honestly me too.
The only people embarrassing themselves around here are you guys who think people who chop their dicks off are inspirational. As for treatment? I would say see a psychiatrist.
Or is she
Thanks for making this, Andrew. My husband is transgender and you would never guess it. Videos and media like this are what people need. It helps people understand and realize that trans people are just that...people. 🤷♀️
Im a transwoman and i appreciate this guy who also educating himself to this issue...
It's to bad if you don't
What's up dude?
@@GuiltyNoticer not much, what's up with you?
But, you're not a real girl though. You don't have a real boobs or a real female anatomy nor a fallopian..
@@MrJamiez i owe u nothing to proved ☺️✌
"what was your parents reaction" *video cuts to play battlefields trailer starting with an explosion an people being blown away*
HAHAHAHA!!!
Since I'm in Italy it showed a music video of a dude alone on a mountain smoking a joint in front of a cross
R E L A T E
Anyone who says she looks like a male is lying to themselves. She is beautiful and so patient and kind!
Thanks for your input.
Connor Hays she*
Look at those collar bones...
Not everyone is easily deceived by devils
Will Taylor I don’t know if that’s you in the picture but I’m just going to say it Your cute! I know you may not be gay but I don’t care had to say it :p
I'm halfway through but I really felt the need to say that I love how she is meeting his questions without throwing crazy amounts of technical information at him or making it political. She is the perfect person to have this discussion with. I would have never guessed she was assigned male at birth. Lovely woman inside and out :)
well she wasn't just randomly "assigned male at birth"...it's the standard that your gender identity will match your sex given that trans people are rare
i don't know how people hate on transgender peoples.. life is not even fair to them
FACT: HATE crime is ONLY a crime if you can show 100% physical proof of bodily harm. There must be damage control and it must be visible eternally or internally in the human being.
FACT: MOST people do not hate people. MOST people keep to themselves. MOST people seek to avoid conflict. MOST people do not have enough time in their day nor effort to willingly seek to hurt people. MOST people work 8 - 12 hours a day, come home and rest. MOST hate occur randomly (by small chance) when you are in the wrong place at the wrong time and (both people) lack critical thinking skills resulting in HATE COMMUNICATION at that instance in time.
Because some can not be reasonable but she seems really nice
Many people like to believe that everyone who leads harder life deserves it, especially if they're not happy with their own lives.
patrick jane life isn’t fair
no one hates transgender people ... people hate getting tricked, being forced to change their whole pronoun game up because someone wants to identify as something else, or people being offended for the general population not knowing that someone who looks like 99% of males, but is wearing womens clothing, *needs* to be called a women because they identify as that.. even though they look and sound nothing like what we have been taught a women sounds like.
thats what they hate. if you want to identify as something - cool. but don't expect people to read your mind and guess what you want to be.
do I have a right to get pissed at you if you say 'yes sir' because I look like a male, sound like a male, and have a penis , but in my mind I identify as a dolphin. I feel like a dolphin. no one understands. but do I have the right to take that out on people because they cannot read my mind and they have naturally and understandably assimilated typical characteristics and gender norms to a schema that has been learned through repetition from birth.
be real.
"transform" lol andrew it's "transition"
He's a bimbo
“Robots in disguise”
Not everyone knows these retarded terms
@@GoIfy It's a basic English word, you dumb-dumb ogre.
When did you do your transformation?
When did you evolve to this stage?
She seems like a great person.
In my humble opinion this person really was meant to be female and she looks really terrific.
Elon Must she has surgery so that physically wouldn’t be possible
medusa’s mirror doesn’t change that he was meant to be a man
Elon Must lmao imagine actually caring about someone’s gender can’t relate
medusa’s mirror you seem to care a lot
You canno't be a female unless you're born female, stop fooling yourself!
my man needs a new barber
also a personality
Lookin like a clown
Which one?
ROFLMAO
Looks fine to me. Let's see your haircut, punkass
She is a beautiful human being and this interview changed my mindset completely.
I’m transgender! A lot of people seem to be against it here, so could one of you who has a negative view of it please help me understand your view?
I'm not against transgenders, but the way I understand their point of view goes like this: Trans people identify as something other than their observable biological gender. A person thinking ''I am a woman'' whilst also having male genitalia and a Y chromosome seems utterly paradoxical. The solution to the imbalance between body and mind is not to correct the body, because the body cannot be altered without massive physical surgeries and hormone treatment. Even if those alterations are made, they can't change the fact that they have a Y chromosome/two X chromosomes. The mental identity cannot be observed be outsiders the same way genitalia can, and that would mean you're sacrificing obserervable physical realities in order to facilitate for a person's own subjective, non-physical identity. The solution would be to alter the person's own perception, which would be healthier, less invase and would also not require having to ''knock the slats'' out of several hundred years of cultural perception on gender/sex as well as not having to ignore scientific realities like that fact that sex and gender are profoundly linked together.
The fatal flaw in this argument IMO is that gender identity also manifests itself in certain brain circuitry. Which means that trans women have the same brain circuits as cis women and trans men have the same brain curcuits as cis men. Basically meaning that altering the mental state would definitely not necessarily be healthier for the person involved, but I don't think there's been any research done on that, so who knows.
Xeper-I-Set I’ve heard a little bit about all of what you said, actually. I don’t see how chromosomes would really be a good argument against it, due to the ‘brain-circuitry’ argument pretty much doing the exact opposite of what the chromosome argument does
Thankyou! C:
Sex and gender are not scientifically linked together in ways like sex indicates gender, biology of the body creates gender just like sex, that means that biology created their own different physiology of the brain and their identification. The healthier is of course the transition, but the point is to achieve result in more natural ways, that's where science is lacking, but is working on, so the DNA and the molecular structure of the body could be changed. Why is it wrong to transition, well it isn't, when you consider how many people are born with all kinds of defects that require surgery already immediately after birth, or some intersex people who to take hormones for the rest of their lives because they would not survive. One has to understand in case of transsexuals (the term transgenders is misleading) that with their intersexed brain their body is not completely healthy or "balanced" in traditional ways, because body includes the brain, the head is not separate, it is all part of biology. Just because externally it is not seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist, some intersex people (non transsexual) have to take hormones externally as well, their body can seem healthy too, but it is not. It is at its roots physiological issue, not mental. That's how it has been widely observed in scientific circles since 1979. Sometimes when people don't transition soon enough more and more psychological problems start piling up, that's why one could say many of them can seem unstable, when the truth is so much deeper. The psyche becomes imbalanced because the body itself is imbalanced, that includes body's hormones rushing to the opposite gender brain, all comes as a reflection of something that is already inbred in their biology.
It's my belief you should play with the cards you are dealt. The body is as it is, and to change it is only superficial, a transgender woman can pull every trick in the book to look like a woman, but they will not be able to give birth. Sure, some real women cannot have kids through some reason or another, but that's just unfortunate in the same way losing a leg is unfortunate. An infertile female and a transgender female are NOT the same thing.
The mind is plastic and can be changed with work and encouragement. That is what should be addressed. I'm not denying people identify a miss-match between their mind and their body, but why change the body? That's like having a fully working mac book with windows installed on it, and instead of just reformatting and installing OSX all the mac book components are switched out to create a cheap third party windows laptop consisting of non-genuine Chinese knock off parts that LOOK like the real thing, but don't perform anything like it.
To be a little more personally vulnerable about this, there are a lot of things I hate about myself that surgery could fix, and yes, the idea does come across my mind, it IS tempting. But to turn to surgery would be to lose the war, instead I'll work on those things mentally. I'll make up for what I lack physically in other ways, and after the long hard battle when I have earned what I desire in life I'll have closure. I'm sure if I had surgery it would fix NOTHING. Even if that particular problem was fixed I'd just replace it with something else. It is a psychological issue, not a physical issue. I believe the same to be true for transgenders.
As I see it, it is not recognized as a psychological issue by scientists and medical professionals for decades, and gender dysphoria is fixed by surgery, that's why it is used as a treatment and not as some plastic surgery for one's vanity, two different things, which some people probably seem to believe it is the same? but I understand what you mean, but there's a reason why psychologically it has never been cured... I'm talking about real ts people, not those whose gender dysphoria disappeared with age, in those cases that's not severe physiological malfunction and changes by natural growth. Infertile woman and transgender woman are not the same, yes, but are the same in terms of physical handicap. Both happen on the inside. Brain is as much physical and biological as any other part of the body. Trans person can change their mind, but it will not disappear, because it is not an impulse or a feeling, it is a sense of who they are. So it is a question if one is willing to be true to themselves or not, not whether they can change their mind about being trans, that's nonsense, considering that they are born trans. It's like forcing someone heterosexual into being homosexual and vice versa. The cards we are dealt are sometimes death after birth unless we are helped medically. Do we choose to treat some illness or just let it be and die? That's the same case, we are constantly changing our bodies as we go on in life, through treatrments, foods, exercises. One can not treat someone psychologically when the root cause comes from something physiological that causes distress, it is like putting a patch over something, but never really healing anything, in my experience it is superficial and never works for a good reason. When you are bleeding, you don't change your mind and do nothing, you retain some kind of self love and help yourself. It seems like most people simply don't understand it, it's not like some sexual orientation or an impulse to smoke or drink alcohol. It's literally physical through smell, touch, hearing and seeing... this is a philosophical lesson for humankind in my view, to learn what it is to be true to ourselves, and how the outside physical material existence does not control our lives, that includes society or body. They literally follow Einstein's idea, that reality is an illusion, all that exists is God and spirit in our heart, our true invisible self. This is one of the examples why ts people have been highly respected in our ancient cultures, they've been teachers, and I believe the generally higher intelligence of these people is no coincidence, only an indication of that. That's my own perspective.
"do they lactate?"
"yeah"
"like, with milk?"
Deceased.
Jordan Peterson has said he has and would use a person's preferred pronoun. His issue is with the government compelling speech, which is in direct contrast to free speech. Very big difference.
Sidney Thomas clean your room with lobsters in the future writers program
I love JP!!!!
Absolutely. As a cis trans supporter, I think forcing people to speak a certain way by law is wrong.
For an example, dispite my beliefs siding with the trans community, I dont believe in saying things grammatically incorrect just because people want to be refered to as a fake tumblr gender.
With that being said, I understand gender is a spectrum and like, just out of respect, I will call someone by their prefered pronoun. Even if its a fake one. Doesnt effect me in any way. I don't agree with it but there is no reason for me to not be respectful.
honestly we need more people to think like you do. You don't have to completely agree, or even agree with someone / something at all to tolerate it.
You're right....unlike Andrew, who brought up the pronoun conversation without any idea what he was talking about, it didn't fit the context of the discussion or have any relevance to his guest (she identifies positively as a female, and isn't part of the gender neutrality discussion) ... typical Hales style lol
She seems so sweet and nice, I’m really happy for her and how far she’s come in her transition and being more comfortable in her own body
Most Transsexuals are well grounded and easy going people. The media seizes on the worst of the worst, as do bigots and transphobes. The haters focus on transgender individuals who are not as much as average examples of Transsexuals.
Her personality is more attractively feminine than most women
Ryan W aww you just came out as gay 😊👏🏼
La la la she doesn’t have a penis though, didn’t know it was gay to like vagina.
"His personality..."
Not that that's relevant, just an FYI.
@@Lalala-fz2ci No,...you did, and it's oke.
"And it functions...normally?" :|
"Mhm" :)
"Hehehe..." >:)
Except that he can't have kids... I mean she.... No uterus or fallopian tubes.
Marlon Mendez maybe its just me, but i would begin giggling out of control
@Malt Liquor Reviews transgender people tend to have different brain structures. Meaning, a guy who really feels like he is a woman generally isn't just making it up, but he really feels like he is a woman. Brain scans have shown that men who say they feel like women actually have brains that are closer to a woman's brain compared to a man's brain.
@Malt Liquor Reviews
You can try to deny reality all you want. But thats what science how shown us. Its normal for transgender people to feel the way they do because of their brain structure.
Malt Liquor Reviews I agree
My philosophy is that if someone presents themselves to you as a woman then I treat them like a woman. Same goes for a man. There's no reason to hate someone for doing this. She's a beautiful woman and that's that.
Ankou it’s really not tho babes , she has estrogen as her main sex hormone
At the age of four you know fuck all.. a lot of parents encourage it and support the 4yr old as if the child knows better.
You made a fucking huge Life choice at the age of 4.
You wouldn't let a 4yr old get a tattoo..... but would let them decide things like this? Crazy shit man. A 4YR OLD.
@@edshot87 She didn't transition until after highschool. That's past 18. She obviously stated she knew by the age of 4 and explained her whole upbringing and thought process. You obviously watched 2 minutes and jumped straight to the comments with an unfactual, heavily biased and uneducated opinion.
@Bonidee Lee She is a female, and lots of science points that to be true. The only thing she remains male is in certain severe medical documents and genetics. Otherwise she retains every biological making of a woman, including brain, hormones, organs, shape, etc. Why fight science with your blind eye because of tradition and because YOU deem it wrong?
@backtodafuture1987 She has 100x more female attributes than most females you probably know. She is obviously already a women, and is considered to by science and most people. She is only considered male on severe medical documents and genetics. Why fight science and blind yourself because YOU deem it wrong?
This was so fun to watch. I loved the guy asking the questions trying not to be nosy but wanting to know.
This is amazing. I'm a transguy - I was really hoping you would interview someone who was trans. You have a great way of talking to people. Very accessible.
go back to what you were
If it hadn't been mentioned she was transgender I'd have no clue. Looks like a woman to me.
You mean he?
No I meant she. If she's had the operation and fully transitioned she's a woman now.
In essence not a female.. a sick male who believes he is a female and acts like a female.
"acts like a female".... isnt that what females do? hahaha, you need to try bit harder.
ahahaha - acting is not being, my friend.
The chemistry between them was cute to watch lol.
He seem weirded out to be honest!
@@pettyx008 No he didn't, he seemed low key interested! Not that that's a bad thing, I think he was mildly surprised by it himself. She's attractive.
@@RealTalk22222 No he wasn't, it's obvious the guy was weirded out.
Mrs.GotDRAMAbringit nah he’s low key down to take a walk on the wild side.
@@suk4honesty sure,you trans ppl have wishful thinking 😆
So polite and present. Not calling people TERFs or the like.
Been waiting for this one as a trans guy. Good conversation. Hopefully this can help a lot of people wrap their heads around this
Whenever I watch Andrew's interviews, I always expect him to burst in to laughter. It's like he's holding it in haha
"So they cut it off?"
Great interview! I send nothing but love, support, & best wishes for Isley. She's a very smart woman with a big heart & good head on her shoulders. I'm so glad she found her happiness. I can totally relate to her. Very inspiring! I'm a mtf (age 22) & I have body/gender dysphoria & am currently transitioning via HRT, laser hair removal, cosmetic treatments, & eventually surgery. it's a very sad & hard medical/psychological condition I wouldn't wish on anyone. But at some point we have to accept ourselves & begin to live. We all only live one life. Why spend it suffering. Just like Isley, I want to become happy, healthy, productive, & comfortable in my own body. Regardless if you understand or support trans people, everyone can agree with my above statement.
This is great. She's an excellent spokesperson for her community
wow a youtube video on being trans without strong opinions.
when u mean "strong opinions" u mean hard questions?
I really enjoyed this interview. He asked questions I would want to ask or have answered about being Trans. In fact I had no idea we all as humans start out as female in the womb. She seems very grounded and I am very happy that she is herself and loves herself and can be best person she can be.
Thank you for doing your part to educate the world on this. It’s very much needed. ❤️
Do chatting with an atheist.
Edit: Actually i think it would be interesting to bring a theist and an atheist, chat with them and see what happens.
What's the reason to chat with normal people? It's boring.
if it's an anti-theist atheist sure.
given that most people are theists, especially in America, it would be interesting.
Catota A lot of people in America are not theists, a lot are what some call a closet atheist, they might go to church with their family and tell their family they are religious because they are scared of what they’ll think if they tell them they are an atheist. You might be surprised at the number of atheists in America.
Waffles And Bacon!
scared of what? it's not like they're in a muslim culture and they'll kill you for being an atheist, simply most Americans need more education, no offense, just look at your presidents, if they're not christian, they don't even get elected.
Awesome interview, I love how you're not afraid to ask questions that regular people want to ask people of a minority community.
That was a wonderful interview. Thanks!!!
Hello dear 😊😘
Funny how when politics doesn't poison the conversation, you can much more easily accept their transition and not judge them. 😕
Please do Chatting with Jesus Christ.
Sir Phantasmic this comment is gold. By the way Jesus is Lord.
Sir Phantasmic
*Chatting with my imaginary friend.
reminder that there is no rational evidence for god's existence.
Russell Brand
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"so uhh, whats it like being the son of God?"
"Thankyou for dying for my sins, respect man"
jr123 atheist, leftist and SJW. Worst combination imaginable
Andrew’s hair lookin like Wolverine
I just fell in love with this chick. Great interview. She’s super sweet and genuine
Daniel Powers but you know that ain't chick, that's a dude. That makes you gay actually.
Men have vagina's now?!
K0WNAGE so what if he has a vagina? He can't have babies just accept science biatch
Kekistani Soldier So all women can have babies? Might want to find a better argument. Accept science.
gay
i feel like this is a very necessary and genuine narrative, thanks for making this.
Good perspective. Hard to disrespect trans people after seeing this
That profile pic is more epic than the actual movie
@Jim Pula still a man..
Simon Wheeler it’s sad that it took you AFTER watching this video to even realize NOT to disrespect trans people...
endmisogyny now no... a biologically born male that transitioned to a female. Not that hard of a concept.
@@michaelasuorsa that's impossible, because of biology.
!!! THESE KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. also, i love how sweet and calm she is. :)
He is*
SHE is a Sweetheart
IT is
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mm uh yea yes uh yea hmm yes yes yea uhuh mhmm yah yah i like yea like also yea uh mhmmm agree with you
"what do you do for money?" hahahahhaha
so rude
yea, tell it to Andrew Hales, the professional interviewer.
How’s that rude lol, it’s an interview about here life.
@@LZYDOG i think the wording came off as the typical stereotype that trans women have to sell their body to make money
"what do you do for a living?" or "what's your profession?" would have done nicely. "What do you do for money?" Lmao Andrew is so awkward, I love that
She is so awesome!! I love how chill she is, and I honestly would NEVER ever guess she was born male! She seems like a beautiful person, inside and out!
This is the first video I've seen of yours and wow, you genuinely care, and interested to learn. All the comments too, the topic of transgenderism is something I'm very affected and part of, so seeing so many out of loop open to learn is beautiful.
what do you do for money? hahaha such a weird way to ask that question.
I wouldn't have known, she talks, looks and acts like any other woman, amazing.
I can't believe the amount of hate these people get. So many dislikes compared to the other videos. Why all the hate? It takes a lot of courage, dealing with crap, jumping through hoops, and risking harsh social judgement for someone like her to achieve something most of us just take for granted. I doubt most people would even have the guts and determination to do something equivalent.
fuck off.. no one want this cancers shit in our countries
you people and you first problem disgusting issues
@NIKOS Who's "they"? If you're talking about the reactionary radicals from Twitter and Tumblr, etc., that's not fair to say as they don't make up the whole LGBT community.
You go girl,,I'm the same way
Cause to simple minded cis breed "dIfFeReNT bAd dIfFeRenT SCarY"
The interviewer has such a remarkable gift for subtlety and sensitivity.
oy vey
Otay, otay
Here before viral.
Sjors hello time traveler, tell me another prophecy
Sjors pardon my language but no shit idiot it only has 7000 bc it was uploaded 2 hours ago
shut up dude this is going viral. im here bv
you're just mad cause im here bv and you weren't OG BV like me and my man jonnybeouive
pah lease... no PV can ever be superior to an OG BV. dont even try it.... peasant
Very attractive person inside and out.
Isley Reust, you are awesome! It is very inspirational to see you out and open and sharing your story! Brava!
What a lovely lady omg she is so cool. Also those are some cute jeans.
Man
@@jayo3074 man she cute?
Jordan Peterson for "chatting with"
I mean like if someone just goes out of his way to call her by male pronouns are just rude because honestly she looks like a normal woman, not a drag queen or non binary fluid crap
So many rude people in these comments going out of their way to call her "him", if it didn't state "trans" in the title they'd never even know lol. They're just spiteful.
Btw, non binary and gender fluid, although confusing are actually not some obnoxious label. People who are often mentally stuck between not knowing whether they may be trans or not often refer to themselves as one of the aforementioned terms because they're not mentally comfortable with male, female, or trans. You wouldn't know that they are non binary if they don't tell you.
No, it would be rude to call a guy (a person born with a penis or who don't have vagina, or who have XY chromosomes) a she/her like you just did.
MegaSterick that doesn’t make sense
@@eraserbac That's not my problem to bear but a problem for you to overcome.
MegaSterick ur so deep omg
Andrew, you continue to blow me away. Your sensitivity and your respect for people is very rare.
This video was eye opening. While I have always resisted and pushed trangenders out of my reality, I have now been able to accept them as a person. While I still am not attracted to them and wouldn't have sexual relations with them, it is a conscious preference of choosing not to, while still accepting them as people, not from resistance coming from ignorance and disgust.
This is very stupid. If someone thinks they should be the opposite gender, you should do counselling rather than cutting off his body parts.
What would you do if a normal person believes that they are actually an amputee?(yes, people like that actually exist) do you cut off their arms and legs?
great! Let us just start cutting every mentally ill patient's body parts. Some people think they're made out of wool. Let us start putting wool in their body.
This is disturbing. This is a psychological problem, not a physical problem. No matter if you cut off the penis or the testis, he still has an X and a Y chromosome which is literally the combination of a male.
Such is the stupidity in the west. The west is so developed in technology, military but you're so fucked up when it comes to simple biology. I really feel sorry for that person. It's not her/his fault. It is the society that has let him down.
Azamat Bagatov you have to go through therapy before you can ever start hrt. People have tried conversion therapy but it leaves many depressed or worse. If someone has gender dysphoria this is the best course of action.
@BarrierBoy I suffer from Bipolar Disorder as well. All we need to do is take our meds and learn coping mechanisms to appear "normal". I found out 3 years ago that brain surgeons and the psychological field had given up trying to cure Bipolar Disorder. I found that out in college Psych class. The Disorder part is worse than having a disease. Know why? Because doctors don't understand it like they do understand diseases. The life disruption doesn't have to last long. You're not alone. 45% of humanity, and growing fast, suffer from a mental illness. I view my Bipolar Disorder as a super power. It's given me a unique view of people and taught me how to use my adrenaline whenever I want. Made me fearless. Hugs!
Azamat
some people are XO, some are XXY
i personally am XY and i have testes where ovaries should be, but was born with a vagina and developed entirely as a female, because i cant process testosterone, i was assigned female at birth
update your understanding of sex, theres more to sex then "XX = female, XY = male hurr durr"
But what if you met a trans girl, was attracted to her had a good conversation realised you liked the person, possibly even went on a date, and then at the end of the meeting she said 'oh btw I am trans and was born male.
You still had that attraction because you didnt know until you where told and assumed she was a cis-gender female.
In that case you would of experienced attraction to a trans woman and only after finding out suddenly your not? Thats something that is born out of insecurities and societies prejudice that has been placed on trans people. If they still had a penis I could understand but any post-op trans girl is in most cases indistinguishable from a cis-gendered female. Just dont have a womb or ovaries. So to say your not attracted Is fundamentally wrong because you probably couldnt tell unless you were told by a trans person who is fully transitioned and any changes in attraction from then would be born of either your own or societies ingrained prejudices.
Incoming 14-year old edgelords
Zlatan Ibrahimovic no the generation below millennials (Generation z) are much more conservative on transgender issues
Lord of Frog’s backup dancer Generation z? Who comes up with those names?
Lord of Frog’s backup dancer And yeah, i guess generation z likes to make their opinions heard even tho nobody really cares.
MrCesarM XD well the same could be said for any other group of people. Nobody really cares about what feminists have to say yet they always flout their opinions
Lord of Frog’s backup dancer True. On that note, let's just say that many people from all generations, subcultures and groups like to make their opinions heard even tho nobody really cares.
Can't believe i generalized before, what a dumbass, i should know better.
shoutout to all the people like isley who are willing to put themselves out there to educate the ignorant. i couldn't do it.
What a wonderfully refreshing video!! Thank you so much for those questions and answers exchanged in a kind, frank and understaning way, with no 'axe grinding'!! We know a couple of trans men and I can't see wnhy anyone could do anything but support and love them! Sad world, eh? It has to be said that you look really lovely and come across as a very open and giving lass! Bless your heart..... XXXX LOve from the UK
Shes really nice and pretty.
It's a dude, i don't have anything against trans people but come on let's not deny facts here.
@@ChristopherGray00 if you dont have anything against them refer to them as the gender they'd prefer. It doesnt affect your life at all
@@tomholt1080 It completely affects my life, it is destroying the definition of man and woman.
But assuming it didn't affect my life, as much as it wouldn't affect my life to call someone who is not a woman, a woman, it wouldn't affect you as much for me to not call them by the sex that they think they are, words are meant for actual objective logic and set-in-stone definition, not social obligations and feelings.
Just because i don't agree to the idea that a transgender should be called the sex they aren't, (although i can see trans-female or trans-male being alright), doesn't mean i have anything against these people on a personal level, i have talked to some trans people and at least from what i've seen they seem like pretty levelheaded and kind, but i just don't agree with that specific idea is all, for example i disagree with my mother on some opinions, but i still love her to death, because i had gone by her words that she's told me as a child, and that was "agree to disagree", an opinion is just that, it doesn't always have to be a statement for if you hate someone or love someone.
@@ChristopherGray00 Fair enough. I strongly disagree though. I feel like me saying man or woman to someone is a pretty low effort endeavour.
Gayyyy
LMAO ! Jesus christ "do they lactate?" LMAO omg that got me dieinnnng
This person is beautiful and smart.. Fuck, as a straight male I wouldn't find it difficult to love this person as a significant other. She's blessed and I hope she enjoys her life. :)
I love the respect Andrew gives everyone in these interviews. I believe it is what sets this show aside from others. People feel comfortable enough to be themselves. This has to be my favorite show to I have started following on RUclips and I hope it doesn't stop anytime soon!❤
This lady is a definite female and she was right to transition. Her bone structure, voice, wide eyes demeanour is perfect.
@@Mark-ob8jd Don't you know that the female is the base model for the human race and we all start off that way in the womb?
It's the Y chromosome that changes females into males and sometimes things go wrong.
A woman has a pair of XX chromosomes and the male, XY, but you can have XXY people who have female characteristics, or even XXXY as in the case of Caroline Cossy who starred in a James Bond movie.
Conversely, there are XYY men who tend to me extremely aggressive and quite often violent. These people usually end up in prison doing lengthy prison sentences.
So, this particular transgender lady will definitely have a better life as a female and should be treated with respect, but I agree that big hairy transvestites look better as men and should stay that way.
This was quite eye opening for me. I've never actually seen or spoken to an actual transgender person before. The only ones I had seen were the "queen" types who get the media attention and are the ones who get slated a lot. Honestly when I saw a "trans person" dressed up with devil horns reading to little kids looking like something out of frankenstein I really was not okay with that, it was actually scary tbh. So thanks for sharing I guess, I really didn't know there were 'normal' trans people out there if that makes sense. Helps me understand them a lot more. One thing though, I found it interesting that she said she naturally had low Testosterone as a child, I do wonder what might've happened if she'd been treated with extra testosterone instead of estrogen, would she have felt more comfortable as a man, and lived happily as a man, with the added test? Sorry if that's inappropriate but I think it's a fair enough question that probably can't be answered
Chris Wyles the extra t would most likely have made her physically more masculine but mentally she would still have felt feminine, its usually a two part thing when it comes to trans people
@@azeavers6039 does test not affect the hormones in your brain as much as your physicality? Guys with higher test think and act in a more masculine way as well as having more masculine physical structures.
Makes me think of guys in the gym on test and other gear who become hyper-masculanised, way more agressive, loud, and generally OTT.
Also more elderly gentleman on HRT to get their libido, energy and drive back which all men lose as you age due to not producing as much test and its well known to bring them back into balance so to speak. They mostly report improvements in all areas of their masculine identity, just google scholar it I cba to link it haha.
I don't wanna push anyone's buttons but it's an interesting thought, if I say so myself haha.
@GotDRAMAbringit yh I am speculating, if I can't ask questions then what is the point?? I don't really know anything about trans people and presumably you would want someone like me to learn? Instead of having a go maybe just answer the question which you eventually do. Plus, you don't know and can't say what her life might've been like, it seems like a less drastic measure.
I just don't understand how people are born thinking they should be a different gender. I'm not saying they don't, I'm saying I don't understand it and I'm trying to. No other creature in nature (that isn't capable of naturally shifting gender) seems to have animals that posses traits, behaviours or an observable desire to act and be like the opposite gender. Why is it just humans that are like that?
And to answer some of your points. I think there is a definite over eagerness to diagnose somebody with gender dysphoria and I am not trying to "subtly" suggest anything, merely asking what might have happened. Suicide rates are far higher among trans people who have transitioned than any other group in society which seems suspect to me and indicative of deeper mental health problems among many trans people of which gender dysphoria may be a symptom. There is one known bodybuilder who is openly trans, I know nothing about the person and i'm not particularly into bodybuilding so in short I have no idea what has lead to them making that decision.
Chris Wyles-
But why speculate:
Why does it have to be something " MIGHT of happen" to other ppl who are not like you.? This is usually speculations that come from ppl who still think and believe there's a solution to this other than transitioning. You also completely ignored studies of the transgender brain have been done before, brain activity and structure in transgenders more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender, normally happens at a young age.
There definitely also ppl who transitioned for the wrong reasons and were not trans to begin with and found another solution elsewhere while blaming the system and the trans-community because of the results they got. That's due to some ppl transitioned because they are confusing a molestation to gender, also there's ppl who transition to make money, there's ppl who de-transition for religion and there's ppl who are confused sheep. But the percentage of these ppl are rare and low.
Any person who claims to be trans needs to go to psychiatric evaluations first before such treatments and it's a gender disorder. All hormone medication is under control by an Endocrinologists. Psychiatrists and Endocrinologists are generally reluctant to provide hormone therapy to youths under 16.
At the end though adults have a choice to make wether to transition or not, ppl should take responsibility for their OWN actions and NOT blame the system that they got brain washed. Or come up with the "I think there is a definite over eagerness to diagnose somebody with gender dysmorphia"
The eagerness you're talking is being twisted by ppl like you. The eagerness is to make ppl accept themselves and come out as trans if they truly are without fear and to educate society if they're interested.
"Suicide rates are far higher among trans people who have transitioned" that's completely bogus.
Why is suicide rate higher ?
Why trans kill themselves has nothing to do with the surgery or hormone therapy. That's a false conspiracy theory.
Yes and 99% of them suffering depression because of the social pressure, that's how suicide happens among trans people, how do I know, because I've been visiting their group sessions for years with 100's of them and know that all depressive thoughts have been greatly increased by the judgmental treatment of society. Depression is a result of gender dysphoria at first, until they start transition which is so far the only most effective treatment that's curing it, but once the society start spreading the hatred around them, running away from them, etc, it greatly increases depression on top of it, it's a timing bomb waiting to explode at that point. Anyone with mild depression is a lot more sensitive than others, what society basically does, is they beat them when they're down, figuratively and also literally often. One can just ask all the therapists treating them who know this very well, one gets a very good picture, and it is usually only trans people who know this. Depression rarely happens outside the influence of society anyway, we all are connected, we influence each other all the time, we are all responsible for the well being of others to some extent. Morever, all the people who detransition have never been transsexuals, transition determines a diagnosis whether they are even trans in the first place, it's a diagnosis by treatment, that's why detransition is a necessary part of it, diagnosis has several stages, pre-transition and post-transition.
It's also important to realize based on countless of research that suicide is greatly reduced after transition... and most of this statistics come from trans people pre-transition anyway, that's why such treatment has been recommended in the first place, because it does work.
You would be ignorant if you think there's no more bodybuilders conflicted with their gender identity or who like to cross-dress!
- I work in the mental field
drag queens =/= transgender women
Drag is a performance art and can be done by anyone.
SHE is such a lovely person, fielding Andrew's (slightly awkward) questions with grace. Respect to her!!
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One of the best interviews I have ever seen. I really enjoyed the questions and answers, Thanks for a most interesting post
I don't think the government should enforce the way you express yourself with words.Regardless if it's good intentioned or bad intentioned
so if i express myself by continually harassing someone at work or someone that's a tenant of mine with malicious intent the government should have nothing to do with this? do you reject the entire notion of 'protected classes'?
She is a beautiful woman, what a very nice lady.
It's a he.🤣
@@hectorgarza8540 It's a she, but okay
Just because you dress like a woman doesn't make you one.🤣
hector garza ur so edgy and cool 🤣🤣r/coolguy
He literally said nothing edgy, all he said was common sense
Very cool, nice, transgender woman. I love how she is so open talking about herself. I'm gay and I sadly knew a transgender woman who had a very hard time while transitioning. Being cisgender (not trans) she was very offended by almost every single thing I said. I could not ask her one question without her being offended. You see, the questions I might have asked were not offensive, not about her top or bottom surgeries, I'd just be supportive. One might think I must have said something terrible. Any "slight" way of not saying something in a politically correct perfect way was met with anger, rage and eventually abandonment. I still try to empathize. :-/
Man that sucks :(
Good on you for being a decent individual though. Respect ✊
So glad I ran across this interview with this amazing young lady.. I love Isley !
She is quite a Renaissance
Woman with many talented qualities. You are soo Lovely... Literally and Figuratively. Stay Safe and Well in Iceland. Namaste🙏