Camp axe forged from repurposed ball peen hammer

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024
  • One of the viewers has asked me to make a small camp axe with a hammer pole utilizing a 24 ounce ball peen hammer that had belonged to his father. lets take a look at the process of forging the axe.
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Комментарии • 164

  • @mumurioste790
    @mumurioste790 6 лет назад +69

    Yes sir thank you very much it’s exactly what I wanted I love it !

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +14

      Great, I'm glad I could do it for you

    • @wallcarpentry2006
      @wallcarpentry2006 4 года назад +3

      Hope your getting good use out of it .

    • @timidb
      @timidb 2 года назад +2

      @@wallcarpentry2006 i made something similar as the first thing I ever forged and honestly it was pretty great
      i still find use out of it on occasion

  • @JoshyHendoMan
    @JoshyHendoMan Год назад +8

    "don't obliterate your touch marks, be gentle"
    Me (without even a garage let alone forge): "good, I'll note that"

  • @da_horne_gaming
    @da_horne_gaming 3 года назад +6

    I know this is an old video, but I have been bouncing around your channel using you as a way to refresh my memory on how to do this again. You are a wizard with steel.

  • @karmakshantivyapini4734
    @karmakshantivyapini4734 6 лет назад +2

    The transformation of an elegant little hammer into an equally elegant little axe was pure magic.

  • @ssnoc
    @ssnoc 2 года назад +1

    You’re a great teacher - 👍

  • @OuroborosArmory
    @OuroborosArmory 6 лет назад +2

    This is handy to watch, as it helps all see how to convert a ball peen to all manner of tools.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I'll need to find a few more to make some top tool from

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 5 лет назад +3

    I am up to a dozen views of this video and I have made 3 of these now. I have finally learnt the secret to these. I need to stop beating on it at some point and call it done. The more I beat on them the rougher it gets. Thanks for making this video, I am getting a lot of use out of it.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  5 лет назад +2

      Knowing when to quit is an important skill

  • @strongsadventures
    @strongsadventures 6 лет назад +5

    Great video John. Really cool that you were able to save the Stanley logo.

  • @emtfireman813
    @emtfireman813 3 года назад +1

    I cannot stop watching your videos. I've become an addict! Yup, gonna have to build a shop myself. Watching you swing those hammers is a good reminder to never make you mad lol

  • @GeorgiaWoodsmen
    @GeorgiaWoodsmen 3 года назад +1

    Another great video thank you.

  • @steelpennyforge5152
    @steelpennyforge5152 6 лет назад +2

    I have a 24 oz ball peen hammer head I picked up in a bucket of old tools for a buck. Guess I know what I should do with it now) Great video!

  • @jasonmatranga7058
    @jasonmatranga7058 5 лет назад +1

    Beautiful repurposing of something old into something new

  • @leperejoe1536
    @leperejoe1536 6 лет назад +8

    You sure know how to forge these little chopping devices. Really nice, thanks for showing us the process.

  • @brettmasters5379
    @brettmasters5379 Год назад +1

    great job

  • @wayneshirey6999
    @wayneshirey6999 6 лет назад +1

    You got your power hammer back! :) Enjoyed the forging of the hatchet.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +2

      I am using the 25 pound Little Giant in this video. Its the Bull 90 that is still down for repairs.

  • @joecoastie99
    @joecoastie99 5 лет назад +3

    I actually did this yesterday with a 32oz hammer. It was the first thing I ever forged. Sure wish I had a press or power hammer. I am sore but smithing is fun!

    • @Hogbellylife
      @Hogbellylife 5 лет назад

      It is fun & I know what you are talking about wishing I had a power hammer lol

  • @Anothermachine
    @Anothermachine 4 года назад +1

    The spike on the back is used as a picaroon for picking up the next chunk of wood to split.

  • @BB_46
    @BB_46 6 лет назад +4

    Nice job on the axe. It would be cool to make one with a hammer on one side and a curved pick on the other that would assist you when removing your tent stakes. Great job!👍

  • @bigpapaskinner2854
    @bigpapaskinner2854 Год назад

    Awesome video keep them coming I am learning so much

  • @capman911
    @capman911 6 лет назад +2

    I like that forge. Small slit for an opening, hardly any wasted heat. Nice hammer/camp axe.

  • @jamesfalvey77
    @jamesfalvey77 3 года назад

    for what it's worth, I really enjoy watching you work

  • @jan-reiniervoute6701
    @jan-reiniervoute6701 6 лет назад +2

    Nice project uncle John, within range of an amateur with minimal tooling while still getting a proper tool.

  • @3870TheDad
    @3870TheDad 6 лет назад +1

    Good job on the ball-peen hammer axe head!! And, I really liked your ending shot of panning from forge to anvil with hammer on it. That was great.

  • @RetromagneticDesigns
    @RetromagneticDesigns 6 лет назад +1

    Oh, I like those colors at 2:26, they may not be accurate but the hammer is noch brighter than the sun, so I can see exactly whats happening! Good job.^^

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      The color the camera records is rarely accurate, but it can be dramatic at times.

  • @theguywitheyebrows
    @theguywitheyebrows 5 лет назад +2

    i'm only a few steps away from having my own forge in my backyard, and this is going to be the first thing i make after tongs. thanks a million for the instruction!!

  • @adampablodayc
    @adampablodayc 6 лет назад +2

    I really like hatchets and small axe's ,he should like it.Nice job.

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 6 лет назад +1

    Great demo of how to do this right. The sound, lighting, and editing were superb. Excellent work again . Can't get enough of your informative channel

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Thank you. I am glad the effort to improve the quality is showing

  • @shweppesmojito4353
    @shweppesmojito4353 2 года назад +1

    I admire your work Sir, and wish you all the best!

  • @stationaryenginesworldwide
    @stationaryenginesworldwide 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you John another awesome video

  • @brettsayers7768
    @brettsayers7768 6 лет назад +3

    Really enjoyed the video, very informative about how to make an axe out of a hammer.

  • @752brickie
    @752brickie 2 года назад +1

    That is really amazing how you did that. You are an amazing smith !!!

  • @PPALoft
    @PPALoft 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video. This gave me a great idea for a forging project. Thanks and keep up the great videos!

  • @coyotebird
    @coyotebird 5 лет назад

    love to watch a Craftsman at work

  • @luketownsend4527
    @luketownsend4527 6 лет назад +4

    LIKE IT?? I loved this one! Might try and make it myself! Love your show!

  • @highlyprofitablefuctktard4304
    @highlyprofitablefuctktard4304 4 года назад

    Excellent instruction

  • @Dominic.Minischetti
    @Dominic.Minischetti 6 лет назад +1

    Great job! I love the new camera angles, really shows where you are directing your blows.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks. I'm glad it makes a difference. Still need to smooth out some editing issues, but its getting better.

  • @francovillarroel9490
    @francovillarroel9490 3 года назад +1

    Muy buen video , todos los procesos paso a paso muy bien explicados , felicitaciones maestro Black Bear , una pequeña hacha será mi próximo proyecto , saludos desde Chile 💪

  • @TheOldaz1
    @TheOldaz1 4 года назад

    Nice job and a very handy tool for camping, thanks John.

  • @richardbryant7972
    @richardbryant7972 6 лет назад +1

    Very nice project

  • @minnesotapetecampbell6920
    @minnesotapetecampbell6920 6 лет назад +1

    Happy I found your channel! Most informative teaching on RUclips! Thank u sir

    • @tomcarlson3244
      @tomcarlson3244 5 лет назад

      Minnesota Pete Campbell I agree completely. John is a very good instructor.

  • @topinstructordrivingschool4447
    @topinstructordrivingschool4447 4 года назад

    Thank you so much sir, this video has some good camera shots, and views.

  • @superdave54811
    @superdave54811 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this wonderful video! I loved watching you work. Been subscribed for the past year. Always a good time watching and learning.
    A friend of mine has invited me up to a farm he bought. It has a blacksmith shop on the grounds. From a few of the photos I have seen, it looks like they did a bit of farrier work on the farm along with making a few items needed there also. I'll be assessing the forge and familiarizing my friend with what he has purchased. Should be great fun.

  • @Rick_Bagnall
    @Rick_Bagnall 6 лет назад

    Nice Job!. I am also liking the new camera shots and angles! Adds a nice level of interest.

  • @jeffbarkett366
    @jeffbarkett366 6 лет назад +1

    Hiya John!!
    Sure wish this video was out about a week ago.
    Just finished a tomahawk out of a 24 ounce ball peen.
    A couple of the things you did would have made making the tomahawk a lot easier!!
    Thanks for the pointers John!!!

  • @danielblanchard6487
    @danielblanchard6487 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @thomascampbell4000
    @thomascampbell4000 4 года назад

    Nice work I'm going to have to give this a try

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 5 лет назад

    Great Project. Thank you for sharing it with us...

  • @gregwise5324
    @gregwise5324 5 лет назад

    Another Great Video John! I Could Watch That Little Giant Run All Day. I Would Love To Have A Little Giant, But I Can't Even Afford Tongs, I Have To Make Mine Out Of Re-bar. And , So Goes The Life Of A Starving Artist...

  • @liamculbertson9323
    @liamculbertson9323 6 лет назад

    Another excellent video. The quality of your videos is getting much better- I especially enjoy the panoramic shots of your workshop intermittently and the multiple angles at the anvil/power hammer. This is a great project that a lot of beginners (myself included) probably consider before forging an axe or adze from a solid bar, and your instructions are so clear and easy to follow! Thanks for the great videos and please keep them coming

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Thank you. I am glad the improvement are actually showing as improvements.

  • @jeremiahclapp5287
    @jeremiahclapp5287 5 лет назад +1

    I'm so making one of these

  • @kennethomeara9848
    @kennethomeara9848 6 лет назад +1

    Ah! As i said, just curious. Thank you so much for your time.

  • @JJ-yk6il
    @JJ-yk6il 5 лет назад

    This guys the coolest

  • @christophermurray9777
    @christophermurray9777 6 лет назад

    Excellent work

  • @craigljardine
    @craigljardine 6 лет назад

    Good job John

  • @caleblandry1780
    @caleblandry1780 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just came across a hammer with the nail puller on the back that I had tucked away cause I didn’t like the hard plastic handle and the epoxy filling to hold it in was chipped so I just chiseled it all out and tomorrow I’m gonna take it to the forge and try and make my first axe as I’m still waiting on welding flux in the mail and not confident to weld a axe with borax at the moment this video gives me a way to still practice axe making without the welds yet (I’m also not a huge fan of the spikes on the back of a axe but I’ll probably just make a real small one for grabbing logs cause I have a nail puller not ballpeen)

  • @mattymcsplatty5440
    @mattymcsplatty5440 5 лет назад

    yr a good bloke John

  • @Vikingwerk
    @Vikingwerk 3 года назад

    I’ve been either blessed or cursed with an abundance of ball-peen hammer heads, and have been considering making some into top tools, this video has convinced me that this is not an entirely foolish idea. First step is to make an appropriate drift.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 года назад +1

      They can be a good starting place for many simple punches, chisels and stamping tools. Just be sure to leave the struck end a little softer to prevent chipping

  • @hosiercraft9675
    @hosiercraft9675 6 лет назад +4

    I think the spikes were for mining. The Norse commonly used tools as weapons. And the small pick axe was easy to carry use as a weapon, dig, chop wood ECT.

    • @sonofbr
      @sonofbr 6 лет назад +1

      Watch Gary Houston's video on making a farriers hatchet from a small ball peen. WWW 1 times or before when horses were common in the military the military farrier used. The spike to dispatch a gravely wounded horse and the hatchet was used to recover a shoe or foot with shoe to record or account for the horse.

  • @Res375
    @Res375 6 лет назад

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @brucemcnally3924
    @brucemcnally3924 5 лет назад

    Interesting indeed, as always, thanks!

  • @20mcarroll02
    @20mcarroll02 6 лет назад

    Nice little hatchet. Ive got a few larger ball peins i picked up at garage sales. Thinking about making a cross pein out of one.

  • @paultavres9830
    @paultavres9830 6 лет назад

    In reference to touch marks
    I started putting a serial number on things i make so now i have some sort of a reference as to when i made it a simple #001 has worked well and is kind of fun when you see something youve made specially as time and life flies by

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Its a good idea. But I’m afraid it would slip my mind.

  • @lonestarhomestead5415
    @lonestarhomestead5415 6 лет назад +1

    Great job looks awesome can’t wait to try this myself. I’m not sure it will look half as good but we will see. Ha.

  • @WinDancerX
    @WinDancerX 6 лет назад +1

    Way cool, John!
    Dave

  • @Hogbellylife
    @Hogbellylife 5 лет назад

    I figured out quickly that all the different tongs are a necessity, all I have is a pair of simple flat raw I made out of rebar and I'm always wishing I had some different styles

  • @forMacguyver
    @forMacguyver 6 лет назад

    That came out really nice. I see you got the multiple cameras thing worked out as well.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      It is still a big headache in editing due to some sync issues, but like anything else, it well get better with practice

  • @Sheepdog1314
    @Sheepdog1314 3 года назад

    I use self-adhesive medical bandages for my handles. They also call it vet-wrap (for horses)

  • @shortfuse43
    @shortfuse43 6 лет назад

    John, I wish I had been able to view your video before I made one like this a while back....I didn't think to use a drift and the original hammer eye collapsed into a smaller, round one. Not something I liked. Now, I'll make another, this time with a drift!! Your video will keep others from making the same mistake.
    BTW, I like the multiple camera angles VERY much! Really helps seeing what you are doing.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Sorry it didn't come out sooner. But I hope it helps the next one.

  • @rickisi
    @rickisi 5 лет назад

    I want to take this idea and make a sheet metal cutting tool. Thanks

  • @miketheman6638
    @miketheman6638 3 года назад

    Great video amn. Personality when u made one I try not to hammer out the edge too much to make sure i don’t accidentally warp it and so the blade is thicker and is harder to chip but still great video!

  • @veerthesurvivaltowner7_12
    @veerthesurvivaltowner7_12 2 года назад

    Good

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 3 года назад

    Your customer was right John, unless you need an ice pick or are hunting zombies a hammer is far more useful than a spike!

  • @taylorcrain4740
    @taylorcrain4740 6 лет назад

    I watched this video already on our new smart T.V. how smart it really is, is fairly questionable, but enjoy the vid anyway. So it got me thinking a thang I do to much of sometimes, yet still and all I have an early framing hammer about 28oz. in size and it's going to be my first hatchet project after making the most basic of tools needed to do the job. However I also found an axe also that is a single sided axe a well built axe as you can tell by it tapers toward the cutting edge it is roughly 1/2 inch thick and flat on the back side I was wonder if you wanted it for an I deal of forge wielding some other kind of tool to the flat back side of the axe like maybe a two pound or heaver hammer for driving stakes into ground when a hatchet want do. ? thanks later Taylor Crain P.S. I think it would make a good vid and a great tool cutting a 2x4 or a tree branch stake with the axe, then driving it with the hammer, when power tools are not an option.

  • @Marine-72
    @Marine-72 4 года назад

    Love your shop. Is your anvil a Peter Wright? Kind of looks like a Wright base. Very good video. Thanks again.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  4 года назад

      I think its a Hay Budden

    • @Marine-72
      @Marine-72 4 года назад

      @@BlackBearForge Budden is a good one as well, good ring!

  • @picklesnoutpenobscott3165
    @picklesnoutpenobscott3165 4 года назад

    Howdy, thanks for this video. I thought it was very interesting to get a look inside your forge, How often do you have to replace the hard firebrick?

  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 6 лет назад

    That little giant seems to move material really well. I assume the pneumatic hammer is still the main choice (when it's working). I'm guessing it moves material even faster? So how do you choose which one to use? Not having used either one before, it would seem they have similar capabilities. I assume it's something like me having a variety of power saws with various capabilities some of which overlap.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      In a given weight range power hammers can do similar work. The air hammer is 4 times the weight. The other difference is that I keep drawing dies in the Little Giant and Flat dies in the air hammer.

  • @danielcrawford7315
    @danielcrawford7315 6 лет назад +1

    The new mic set up really seems to be the best so far. Great video sirSir.
    Blessed day, Crawford out

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      It has good promise to be just the thing. Although I did manage to go with a dead battery for part of this video, so when the audio gets weird it because I had to use sound from the second cameras onboard mic.

  • @shifty3453
    @shifty3453 6 лет назад

    Wow SOO many comments on this one! Well done john. Just wondering what the small white box was on a tripod at the start of the video. Also just want to add how clean this video looks mint job mate! Getting all fancy round here with your editing and filming.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      The little white thing is part of capturing better video angles. It is a Sony FDR X3000 action cam. I'll do a little review of it in the near future.

  • @kennethomeara9848
    @kennethomeara9848 6 лет назад +1

    Hello John, great video. Just curious, how long would it take to do this?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Including grinding and heat treat its about 2 hours

  • @davidb3445
    @davidb3445 6 лет назад +1

    I must have missed it in previous videos...what is the pot you dipped the blade in?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      That will be this evenings tool of the day, stay tuned

  • @adeniltonmota
    @adeniltonmota 6 лет назад

    Show 👍👏👏👏👏

  • @barbarasimmons5882
    @barbarasimmons5882 Год назад

    Could you forge weld a harder edge into the cutting edge?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Год назад +1

      You could, but most hammers can be hardened well enough for a small axe like this.

  • @mjanzer1
    @mjanzer1 6 лет назад +2

    How does one find your Store where I can purchase items. Thank you

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      There are links in the video description for my web site and Etsy shop. I have been so busy filling paid orders that I have not had time to list much over on the etsy shop.

    • @mjanzer1
      @mjanzer1 6 лет назад

      Thank you I found it, do you have any Anvil Hold Fasts for Sale ?

  • @gebhardt244
    @gebhardt244 3 года назад

    You are always drawing things out but can you recompact it without foding or welding?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 года назад

      Yes, that is called upsetting

    • @gebhardt244
      @gebhardt244 3 года назад

      @@BlackBearForge how to do this with limited tools?

  • @jjfusber3694
    @jjfusber3694 6 лет назад

    I am looking for 12" of 2" square bar 4140 what is your favorite company to get it from. I have been able to find 1 1/2 but not 2". Thanks for your help. I have enjoyed the tool of the day thanks for all the help full information.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I generally buy from McMaster Carr www.mcmaster.com/#standard-steel-sheets/=1ebwm66

    • @jjfusber3694
      @jjfusber3694 6 лет назад

      @@BlackBearForge thank you sir I appreciate your help.

  • @gsrestorations1438
    @gsrestorations1438 5 лет назад

    What do you line the bottom of your forge with to resist flux? Love your channel!

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  5 лет назад

      my current forge uses hard fire brick and it is holding up very well

    • @gsrestorations1438
      @gsrestorations1438 5 лет назад

      @@BlackBearForge thank you so much for taking time to answer. I'm learning so much from your channel!

  • @Joe_for_real
    @Joe_for_real Год назад +1

    "Be gentle" means something totally different to a blacksmith than everyone else (other than maybe a heavy equipment operator). It struck me that Johnis wielding three pounds of steel to shape 1 pound of steel sitting on top of 350 pounds of steel by hammering it. Nothing about that is gentle outside of the blacksmith's shop.

  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 6 лет назад

    That slow belt grinder has a fabricated look to it. Did you make it?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      It is a shop made grinder. Most of the critical parts come from Beaumont Metal Works beaumontmetalworks.com/

  • @peteharder6325
    @peteharder6325 4 года назад

    How did you eliminate all the ring from your anvil?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/Z3365vFHXhw/видео.html

  • @alexfullmer4707
    @alexfullmer4707 5 лет назад

    So did you aneal the head before you started reshaping it?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  5 лет назад

      No, the first heat effectively anneals the head before you start forging

  • @JS-xi5nk
    @JS-xi5nk 6 лет назад

    How often do you dress the drift your using? Do you think #9 rebar would make a decent eye drift?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I dress most of the drifts about every dozen or so uses. The rebar would probably be fine steel, but getting it smooth enough to be a good drift sounds like it wouldn't be worth the time. Way easier to start with new 4140 or S7

  • @theranger2185
    @theranger2185 3 года назад

    What did he say at 5:50 that would end up on the edge needing to be ground off?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 года назад +1

      cold shut. A place where there is a small fold or overlap

  • @Marine-72
    @Marine-72 4 года назад

    Save your arm and back! Use that power hammer.

  • @danlawson6782
    @danlawson6782 3 года назад

    what is the bees wax for?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  3 года назад +1

      It prevents rust and gives a much better finished than fresh off the anvil

    • @danlawson6782
      @danlawson6782 3 года назад

      @@BlackBearForge Fantastic! Thank you

  • @ericlavignasse4311
    @ericlavignasse4311 5 лет назад

    bonjour
    quelle est cette pierre que vous vous serviez a 20.20 mn es que cet une pierre ponce ?

  • @workwithnature
    @workwithnature 6 лет назад +7

    Do I get an imaginary ice-cream for being first?

  • @michaeldouglas3950
    @michaeldouglas3950 6 лет назад

    I've been looking for a small camping/backpacking axe. Is the test piece for sale?

    • @michaeldouglas3950
      @michaeldouglas3950 6 лет назад

      Just got my answer. Should have waited till the end of the video.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I will be trying to get it listed this evening

    • @michaeldouglas3950
      @michaeldouglas3950 6 лет назад

      @@BlackBearForge ok thanks. I sent a message through etsy as well.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I have the listing up now

  • @Scraps5209
    @Scraps5209 6 лет назад

    Do you use electrical tape as your handle wrap?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      In this case i was just covering a splinter that was raiding up, so I just grabbed what was handy and that was electrical tape. Generally I don't wrap my hammer handles with anything.

  • @JohnLopez-jt1cj
    @JohnLopez-jt1cj 4 года назад

    I have a ball peen hammer, how can I have one made?

  • @pierre-xavierchassot3183
    @pierre-xavierchassot3183 2 года назад +1

    je trouve bien dommage de detruire un tres rare marteaux de forge pour en faire une hachete de camping minable !