A good addition for crit could be swapping from elemental focus / the RE to stay frosty RE and put points in to mage clear casting and arcane concentration to proc 30% on your clear casting, this clear casting will proc a lot off of blizzard on AOE
rofl, love the vid. made me laugh when you said 81 rerolls "guaranteed" a perfect build. I went through 40k of marks and still need more reroll lol. And that's after prestiging a few times to get most of the core assembled.
Would an enchant that turns pyroblast into "cryoblast" be a stupid idea? Cryoblast would slow and make the target vulnerable against frost damage. Talents that allow you to instant cast pyro would allow you to instant cast cryoblast too. Im not playing Ascention so I might lack the perspective to see if this is a bad idea or not.
I recently rolled the frost bomb enchant on my titans grip frost berserker character. It seemed cool, but it just didnt really fit with the melee aspect of the build. I really wish there were some better enchants to go with the build, but as it stands my only real legendary enchant option is Eldritch Knight.
yo if you like this... try pure shadow its a little bit more than 1 button, but not too much the big boom thingy is alot bigger than deep freeze so maybe you might like it
On my frost build I love having water shield with the Water shield frost damage RE and more charges on Water shield (gives you more damage and is a good mana spell)
I think sitting in a channel on TS3 or Disc is the exact opp from a phone call. When I am on a phone its a constant conversation where i have the feeling to play a role. In discord etc, you can just listen to what ppl are saying but dont need to answer, you just could turn on music and dont even listen at all, unless something is important
I think of it akin to if I had speakers in my house and could randomly hear peoples conversations and choose to press a button and respond. It's just not appealing to me in the slightest. I love having text conversations and interactions in game and I do it quite a lot, guess that's the introvert in me.
While watching this I realized...after a while of normal conquest of Azaroth they can do ability pick and seasonal draft with all those juicy abilities.
I built a frost one button build with Ice Lance and dude, when I say my dps skyrocketed by just picking up a couple Accurate Frostbolt RE’s on my gear and it’s very very good even in mythics
would a frost mage build with shatter plus every single spell haste buff a good build ? seems like spamming max rank frost bolt is amazing damage if u get the chill procs
I would assume so! That's basically what I'm doing. I think you want to guarantee the crits on shatter too and then stack haste but honestly this isn't an opinion backed with math and number crunching, just a thought based on anecdotal evidence. I recommend making the build and seeing how it goes.
So i just started my Ascension journey after watching your videos. Now my question: How do i know which Enchant to go for? There are so many! Is there a way to find out what to aim for?
Just look up enchants that work with the abilities you like and experiment. There's only my videos, some build guides in my discord, and just joining a guild in game where you can ask for help to get a headstart
On the discord topic, I can see where you're coming from for casual play/Simple daily content, however, if high-end group content doesn't need good communication between players in the actual fight itself, I personally see that as a sign of it not really being that difficult, if you do not have to coordinate offensive/defensive cooldowns, movement, etc... to clear the content, I don't see how any group/guild that is communicating well doesn't just trivialize the content. In terms of the two games I have personally participated in the highest-end content on WoW and Final Fantasy I don't know of or havnt even heard of a guild or group who don't use voice comms of some sort that have managed to clear Ultimate raids in Final Fantasy or Mythic raids/high-level M+ dungeons in WoW.
I don't think coms have ever been needed. I think having everyone know the mechanics and paying attention was all you actually need. Coms make it easier because you can subvert knowledge for call outs. I just don't think people realize that.
@@Mcdoubles The purpose of having coms and communication isn't to subvert knowledge, granted a large number of pugs and such that require coms are using it as such. Say you're in a raid as a dps player who has a raid cooldown (In wow AMZ, Rally, Darkness etc...) or offhealing capabilities (Resto convoking as druid dps this expansion) if you're having to constantly be watching for raid hp and healers mechanics as a dps you're going to be losing dps even if its only 5-10% at most, for a lot of groups in that level of content that can matter when its 4-5+ dps looking for that. Whereas if you're in coms and you have the one raid leader watching for those and calling it out it doesn't become a problem. Another example in a high-level M+ key where there are multiple interrupts that are necessary interrupts, a group of just good players are going to struggle with it because people are going to overlap interrupts and cause there to not be any interrupts up for the next one that's coming up in 2 seconds or think "oh 3 other people have interrupt up and are targetting this mob I don't need to" and then all of them think the same thing and nobody interrupts. People that know the fights and mechanics and would generally be considered good at the game are still going to fall short in the situation without having coms to communicate that information. (Also I'm in no means trying to belittle or anything like that, simply just giving my point of view for discussion, love the content and will continue to watch always! Sorry if I'm coming off that way)
The card system really holds the fun back....having golden cards being gated by super high gold costs in a server where you dont even earn gold from ascension quests......They literally tryna force you into buying DP to sell for gold, its really ass.....not to mention just getting lego cards in general is like insanely rare....I've opened 1k+ cards and havnt seen 1 still....I get they wanna make money but for fucks sake, let us just buy golden cards with darkmoon tickets alone..
I think getting full heroic/mythic mix geared in ~5 dungeons is good and then the slower pace should come from the Mythic+ and Raiding grinds. Anything more is just pointless bloat.
Good question. I'm not sure if you would use Ice Lance here so I just think you would take supporting talents that you couldn't fit in before. Possible inclusions could be %ice dmg, haste, crit if you're not at 100% (I think you want to guarantee the crits after Shatter with Fingers of Frost..) etc.
Ascension is what they should have done after Classic. Just let us have some fun for gods sake. Fuck blizz anyway, I'm glad to support Ascension instead of blizz
Man the luck on that Deep Freeze as your level 60 skill without using a Hand of Fate for it... unless you carded and acted it was by chance? Nah you wouldn't do that. ;)
The rng in this server is... AWESOME... 120+ hand of fates... No tree of life... I dont even touched any legendary, not even once... Jus AWESOME rng 🤣🤣🤣
And it's no fun, resorting to meta builds and conforming to power standards in order to compete, is it? But you can't get complex builds to come together in a game so wildly random. It makes sense that people would gravitate towards builds that require only a couple of working parts to pop off...
Difficulty "above retails mythic" now thats a kekW. You also have not pugged the highest difficulty in retail wow. Atleast not in the past 2 expansions - that just does not happen.
it was BFA that I did it in last and it was the raid that drops Khor, Hammer of the Corrupted or something. I know because I won the mythic version and totally didn't deserve to have one at the time. So yeah I pugged Mythic Uldir in BFA but I don't think its particularly impressive at all
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15:19 "its more chill to play" i see what u did there
A good addition for crit could be swapping from elemental focus / the RE to stay frosty RE and put points in to mage clear casting and arcane concentration to proc 30% on your clear casting, this clear casting will proc a lot off of blizzard on AOE
id love to see more of this character trying to max it out
rofl, love the vid. made me laugh when you said 81 rerolls "guaranteed" a perfect build. I went through 40k of marks and still need more reroll lol. And that's after prestiging a few times to get most of the core assembled.
Already tried to do a build like that, glad I have something to compare it to. Makes it easier.
Thank you for 'not taking things just for the sake of taking things.' Alot of ascension players struggle with that imo.
You read my mind mcd. I was talking to Boost about a 1 button AFK PvE build. I need this in my life when I'm too tired to think.
I played back in the day when zg first came out, but the cost of respectcing, knowing what synergies and what doesn’t killed it for me.
Would an enchant that turns pyroblast into "cryoblast" be a stupid idea? Cryoblast would slow and make the target vulnerable against frost damage. Talents that allow you to instant cast pyro would allow you to instant cast cryoblast too. Im not playing Ascention so I might lack the perspective to see if this is a bad idea or not.
I think that's sick
Frost themed, fire mechanics? I'd be so down this that
That cat form at 12:55! Is that new, or did I just miss you mentioning it previously?
I recently rolled the frost bomb enchant on my titans grip frost berserker character. It seemed cool, but it just didnt really fit with the melee aspect of the build. I really wish there were some better enchants to go with the build, but as it stands my only real legendary enchant option is Eldritch Knight.
Your videos are so comfortable. No drama, no streaming nonsense, just pure gameplay and positivity. It's a nice change.
yo if you like this... try pure shadow
its a little bit more than 1 button, but not too much
the big boom thingy is alot bigger than deep freeze so maybe you might like it
Any frost or fire mage builds that can use a hunters pet and some bm abilities?
On my frost build I love having water shield with the Water shield frost damage RE and more charges on Water shield (gives you more damage and is a good mana spell)
i added Icy conjure RE for extra frost dmg because i kept rolln arcane missile, lol arcane shot to upkeep the RE enjoy vids bro keep it up
Funny to see myself popup in your skada on eye of the storm haha
I noticed that there are a ton of frost players leveling in bgs now, so thanks from someone with a TM build.
How about a spell called enthrophy bolt? It would merge frost bolt and shadow bolt, and it would have a purple effect.
Love your work mate... keep at it =]
This toon looks so promising..... But I do love your harbinger of pestilence one also🙂
I think sitting in a channel on TS3 or Disc is the exact opp from a phone call. When I am on a phone its a constant conversation where i have the feeling to play a role. In discord etc, you can just listen to what ppl are saying but dont need to answer, you just could turn on music and dont even listen at all, unless something is important
I think of it akin to if I had speakers in my house and could randomly hear peoples conversations and choose to press a button and respond. It's just not appealing to me in the slightest. I love having text conversations and interactions in game and I do it quite a lot, guess that's the introvert in me.
While watching this I realized...after a while of normal conquest of Azaroth they can do ability pick and seasonal draft with all those juicy abilities.
yesterday I rolled above 100 times and didnt get chain lightning for my lightning bolt build I feel U dude
damn that's really bad though I'm sorry man.
I built a frost one button build with Ice Lance and dude, when I say my dps skyrocketed by just picking up a couple Accurate Frostbolt RE’s on my gear and it’s very very good even in mythics
would a frost mage build with shatter plus every single spell haste buff a good build ? seems like spamming max rank frost bolt is amazing damage if u get the chill procs
I would assume so! That's basically what I'm doing. I think you want to guarantee the crits on shatter too and then stack haste but honestly this isn't an opinion backed with math and number crunching, just a thought based on anecdotal evidence. I recommend making the build and seeing how it goes.
back in early pandaria frostbomb exploding in deepfreez was basicly aoe 1shot...
Can we see a Corrupted Bear Form build when that gets released soon?
Oh it's already out and I've already got a char ready for it.
So i just started my Ascension journey after watching your videos. Now my question: How do i know which Enchant to go for? There are so many! Is there a way to find out what to aim for?
Just look up enchants that work with the abilities you like and experiment. There's only my videos, some build guides in my discord, and just joining a guild in game where you can ask for help to get a headstart
prestiged this 3 times and I've never ever seen blizzard, let alone get it.
Yoooo second video in a row that I'm in :D IGN Darthside! Love the videos keep em coming!
What did you do to get so many marks? What quests am I missing.
maybe use stay frosty for fingers of frost?
I got it at the end of the video!
@@Mcdoubles O shoot, I have a habit of not watching vids throug, sorry man!
On the discord topic, I can see where you're coming from for casual play/Simple daily content, however, if high-end group content doesn't need good communication between players in the actual fight itself, I personally see that as a sign of it not really being that difficult, if you do not have to coordinate offensive/defensive cooldowns, movement, etc... to clear the content, I don't see how any group/guild that is communicating well doesn't just trivialize the content. In terms of the two games I have personally participated in the highest-end content on WoW and Final Fantasy I don't know of or havnt even heard of a guild or group who don't use voice comms of some sort that have managed to clear Ultimate raids in Final Fantasy or Mythic raids/high-level M+ dungeons in WoW.
I don't think coms have ever been needed. I think having everyone know the mechanics and paying attention was all you actually need. Coms make it easier because you can subvert knowledge for call outs. I just don't think people realize that.
@@Mcdoubles The purpose of having coms and communication isn't to subvert knowledge, granted a large number of pugs and such that require coms are using it as such.
Say you're in a raid as a dps player who has a raid cooldown (In wow AMZ, Rally, Darkness etc...) or offhealing capabilities (Resto convoking as druid dps this expansion) if you're having to constantly be watching for raid hp and healers mechanics as a dps you're going to be losing dps even if its only 5-10% at most, for a lot of groups in that level of content that can matter when its 4-5+ dps looking for that. Whereas if you're in coms and you have the one raid leader watching for those and calling it out it doesn't become a problem.
Another example in a high-level M+ key where there are multiple interrupts that are necessary interrupts, a group of just good players are going to struggle with it because people are going to overlap interrupts and cause there to not be any interrupts up for the next one that's coming up in 2 seconds or think "oh 3 other people have interrupt up and are targetting this mob I don't need to" and then all of them think the same thing and nobody interrupts. People that know the fights and mechanics and would generally be considered good at the game are still going to fall short in the situation without having coms to communicate that information.
(Also I'm in no means trying to belittle or anything like that, simply just giving my point of view for discussion, love the content and will continue to watch always! Sorry if I'm coming off that way)
Do you guys play on the area 52 or the other server and which one is more populated
Alar is the most populated but Area-52 still has a ton of people nowadays.
Just did mc normal before this and had a meta tank dude, do it!
Literally made this build last night 😂
Where do you get all of your addons, like the better character icons
its all in my discord or the project ascension discord
Mcdoubles... i think you need IceBarrage Legendary enchant.. for pve is better then frost bomb :D you should try it
is this the build your rank one on????
How do you grind rep?
Definitely like the pvp videos better than pve. But respect either way 👏
Are there lich builds? (frost and shadow)
Yes it's called Frost Lich lol but you should play on the TBC servers for it right now because it requires ice lance.
The card system really holds the fun back....having golden cards being gated by super high gold costs in a server where you dont even earn gold from ascension quests......They literally tryna force you into buying DP to sell for gold, its really ass.....not to mention just getting lego cards in general is like insanely rare....I've opened 1k+ cards and havnt seen 1 still....I get they wanna make money but for fucks sake, let us just buy golden cards with darkmoon tickets alone..
Can u try a stormborn build?
If I can nail Elemental Mastery
"I could honestly see the frost guy being more of my main because it is just more CHILL" you have gone too far McDoubles.
When people catch the little nuances like that DEEP in the video it always brings a smile to my face.
WAIT YOU CAN CHOOSE A SPECIFIC STAT TO GET FROM YOUR DUNGEON LOOT NOW? I JUST REROLLED MY BEST CHARACTER
yes!
People never realize how good water walking is until they need it 🥵
Nice.
Thanks!
You shouldn't get the perfect gear everytime from 1 dungeon.. with your logic LFG would be empty because everyone got full Mythic geared for 1 run.
I think getting full heroic/mythic mix geared in ~5 dungeons is good and then the slower pace should come from the Mythic+ and Raiding grinds. Anything more is just pointless bloat.
How would you expand this build at 70?
Good question. I'm not sure if you would use Ice Lance here so I just think you would take supporting talents that you couldn't fit in before. Possible inclusions could be %ice dmg, haste, crit if you're not at 100% (I think you want to guarantee the crits after Shatter with Fingers of Frost..) etc.
@@Mcdoubles hmm I'll try that out! Thanks for the reply. Great work love your stuff!
You roll Riptide!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never do :(
if you want haste, i am using Boomkin......Cold Chicken
Ascension is what they should have done after Classic. Just let us have some fun for gods sake. Fuck blizz anyway, I'm glad to support Ascension instead of blizz
you wouldnt have that problem with my paladin tanking
I think your dot build actually does decent cleave (2-3 targets) but lacks aoe (4+ targets)
Man the luck on that Deep Freeze as your level 60 skill without using a Hand of Fate for it... unless you carded and acted it was by chance? Nah you wouldn't do that. ;)
Nah I had cone and blizzard and frost shock carded, you may be able to catch my lower level build with the ability screen open to see.
@@Mcdoubles was just poking fun haha. Still though grats. Imo deep freeze so good for any frost build.
i cant use frost bomb for some reason and i i know the enchant
I play arcane mage op with enchants
Okay... We get it... Frost Mages require 10iq to play...
You don't gotta rub it in McDoubles...
xD
9 IQ
Who's the guy lookin like an ogre, and how he doin that?
2500 dps ocmplaining that it's bad when I have only ever had a character hit like 1600 dps ST :( not good with builds yet
The rng in this server is... AWESOME... 120+ hand of fates... No tree of life... I dont even touched any legendary, not even once... Jus AWESOME rng 🤣🤣🤣
sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you
Exactly the build that made me quit ascension. Too many waay too overpowered 1/2/3 button builds that delete you even in full pvp gear. It's no use.
And it's no fun, resorting to meta builds and conforming to power standards in order to compete, is it?
But you can't get complex builds to come together in a game so wildly random. It makes sense that people would gravitate towards builds that require only a couple of working parts to pop off...
Cool I'm early
Totem of Wrath and Moonkin Aura dont stack lolololololol
Difficulty "above retails mythic" now thats a kekW. You also have not pugged the highest difficulty in retail wow. Atleast not in the past 2 expansions - that just does not happen.
it was BFA that I did it in last and it was the raid that drops Khor, Hammer of the Corrupted or something. I know because I won the mythic version and totally didn't deserve to have one at the time. So yeah I pugged Mythic Uldir in BFA but I don't think its particularly impressive at all
frost bomb fucking sucks tho lmao
those crits are garbage. my holy nova hits harder
can you make a competitive pvp build? pve is so damn boring to watch idk how people even play that. there is literally nothing happening
I've learned that PvE is just about having a bigger number than someone else and collecting epics