Overview of Water Resistance - Watch and Learn #5
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- In today's episode of Watch and Learn, we discuss water resistance and what the various marks and terms mean. We'll show you how watches are sealed from water, and also do a quick condensation test where we make condensation appear on the crystal of a brand new factory dive watch. Good stuff!
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I think my dog must be a secret watch repairer as he has loads of those ball things...
This is a pretty funny sentence, "Most watch companies will not cover damage due to water intrustion, *especially* dive watches."
Ha!
Agreed
How about those none Dive Watches ,I guess they just don't stand a chance.
Mark, one thing I would like to mention as an owner of many divers. When changing the gasket, I highly suggest using a thin film of watch grease on the gasket before placing it back into the gate and resealing the watch. The grease creates less friction on the gasket as the case back presses against it therefore providing less warpage and a better seal. It is also a good idea to get into reversing screw down casebacks and watch crowns prior to tightening them. Unfortunately I've seen way too many newbies cross thread crowns and casebacks and depending on the watch, the entire case can be ruined but more often it’s just the crown or caseback as they tend to be made from softer materials. It would appear that the “Watch Gods” thought of such mistakes in advance. This procedure is especially important with non-stainless steel watches that use soft materials such as bronze and gold that damage easily. Thanks again for another insightful video.
Rob M Glad you made that point Rob ! I was thinking the exact same thing. In fact, I was about to order some watch grease, before watching this. A dry gasket will stretch and deform, even pulling out of it’s track.
@@randyporter3491 Hi Vacuum Grease Works Great In These Situations...
Thanks Alan, I wondered about that
Replay around the video 02:05. Great points though, thanks. 👍
I just thought I was weird for twisting the crowns of my watches in reverse before screwing them all the way down. I have plenty of tubes of silicone watch grease for when I take off a caseback to replace the gasket.
I'm kinda obsessed with Watch and Learn.. Super informative
That's a good thing. Thank you for watching.
They are nice videos.
Very interesting, and I had no idea about the inner condensation issue. The force created while swimming makes me think of the promo they showed for the new Apple Watch Series 2 when it looked like they had them mounted on a shaft spinning in water. This is a pretty good series of videos for anyone.
Thank you!
I remember, back in the days when Timex took a lickin' and kept on tickin', that John Cameron Swaize attached a Timex (sorry, don't know the reference) to an outboard motor's propeller, and let 'er rip. I don't think I'm remembering this wrong, but I'm old, so who knows? Anyway, it seems to me the watch band broke, but when they fished it out, naturally, it was still tickin'.
I'm watching all of your videos in sequence. Absolutely fascinating! You're a great teacher and I've learned SO much. Bought some tools and done all sorts of watch repairs/alterations that I'd previously have paid for. But the subject matter is so interesting that I can't stop watching. Downside...earache from spending money on classic wristwatches. Many thanks.Karl UK.
Once again another great video, learning so much , keep up the great work Marc.👍
Thank you!
Mark, could you please explain why, for watches that have internal bezels, the internal-bezel-crown usually is not screwed-down, while the (main) crown itself for obvious reasons is? Thanks.
Raymond Malone yes, like the Seiko Alpinist!!?!!
New watch enthusiast here, these are the best videos on RUclips about watches HANDS DOWN
Great to learn something new everyday :) Love my SKX007 even more now!
What an amazing insight! Everytime I visit Hong Kong or Japan, it was troublesome to see my watch fog up. I thought it was a loose crystal or crown, but this video clearly explains why and how. Thank you for the insight!
A few months ago, on an uncommonly hot and humid day in Ca., I experienced condensation when the temps plummeted after the sun went down. I put the watch in a tupperware of dry rice. Later, I checked and cleaned the case back and gasket. (Quartz chrystal, 4 screws) Nothing seemed to be amiss.
This demonstration described and replicated the effects I experienced that day. Watched & Learned, thank you.
Thanks for checking it out and sharing.
You are a master in your field. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I have been loving this series. Keep it up, cant wait for the next one.
another brilliant video, thanks for taking the time to upload them.
Love this series. As a beginner watch enthusiast these are so informative and entertaining! Keep it up!
Thank you!
I'm just getting into watches. This series is the best. Direct explanations that are right to the point. I'm learning so much. Thanks for posting these videos.
Thank you for checking them out.
Great viewing and informative to boot. Thanks. Now to Pt.2.😊
Another good one! Really looking forward to Part II !!!
thanks!
I've learned more watching your channel in two days than months of watching reviews and just general watch videos. subbed.
Thank you for checking it out.
Excellent and informative as ever Marc, thsnks for spending time explaining in an informal non engineering manner.....
Great learning video! I had no idea about the temperature vs condensation factor. I felt like I was watching an old Mr. Wizard episode. I just bought a Seiko SKX013 from your store and am really digging it. Thanks.
Thank you. Don Herbert! I grew up watching that guy.
Awesome demonstration, you have cured my watch fog phobia, thank you very very very much!!!!
Talk about "giving something back" - these quality videos are terrific. If I lived in the East USA instead of Scotland LIWatches would be my watch dealer for sure.
Just starting to watch your old stuff Mark (better late then never!). Great content for sure! Keep it up, very informative 👌💯
So glad to have found this channel! Keep it up!
Great video. I'm learning so much from this series.
In a way, so am I !
loving this series
Great to hear!
Fantastic video. Really nice seeing an in-depth explanation of WR. Keep it up!
Great series. We really learn from you man. Keep them coming. :)
will do!
Another home run Mark! Keep them coming!
thank you.
Marc these videos are a great series. Very informational. Much appreciated.
Thank you for watching them.
I had a Seiko like you were showing and after about 6 months it started leaking swimming. Luckily I was able to dry it out and replace the oring on the and was good to go after that. Great videos!
enjoying the watch and learns. very informative. thank you for taking the time to educate us!
Thanks Mark. Very informative video Learned some useful things about my watches. Also just bought a couple of your islanders. I love them. Great watches.
Great vlog - really enjoyed this one. Loved the ice cube demo, especially!
Thanks!
Love this series Marc!
Incredibly interesting video. Thank you so much!
Great explanation; I own the SKX009 myself and its fantastic to see how it is assembled (without have to ruin it myself!) :-)
Fantastic videos Marc; thanks again!!!!!!
Thanks! I have plenty of ruined watches :)
Another interesting video, Marc. Thanks
I love finding older Watch and Learns I've never seen!
Fantastic video once again! Keep up the great work!
19:00 Are watches ever purged with dry, inert gas before sealing? I have a pair of quality binoculars, not insane high end though, which were purged and filled with dry, pure argon gas prior to sealing in order to prevent this exact fogging scenario.
lol, I never heard such a "i know better" narcissist comment in a while. Binoculars might need it because they magnify and a small amount of condesnsation could be a problem .When has a watch ever needed it. Also any "inert gases" will get contaminated the moment you pull out the crown to set the time. Watch isn't a sealed unit, case back needs to be popped for servicing/regulation.
Above all else. IT DOESN'T NEED IT.
@@Professional_RUclips_Commenter Not sure where you were getting the the impression that Ken thinks they "know better"; their question reads as pretty innocent to me, just inquiring about existing methods to manage sealed devices. And actually there are watches that are designed in a way that's a bit reminiscent of what they describe -- such as Sinn's "Hydro" which are filled with oil to improve underwater readability, increase pressure resistance, and yes: eliminate condensation.
Yes, Sinns were filled with Argon and used Viton seals to prevent gas exchange, later they switched to the dessicant capsule. Which makes sense since once the watch was serviced it's unlikely the servicing watchmaker would have argon on hand.
Thanks Mark for doing this educational video, I've actually learned something. Note, divers do not use dive watches anymore. Divers use dive computers. Dive watches went out in the early 90's. With depth, an open water PADI diver can only dive to about 20 meters. An advanced open water PADI diver can only dive to 30 meters. You'll find that most people who use a dive watch are desk diver or dreamers who think they are James Bond. If you do own a dive watch ask yourself, when was the last time you went scuba diving? 10ATM is usually more than enough for most people who do water sports.
Absolutely!
lol, he said sticky wicket. Sorry. Great content Marc! Can't wait to buy my first orient from you!
Awesome video. Very informative, keep up the great work.
Wow. I was hooked on to this lesson, subbed.
You’re videos are fascinating!!! Really helps people who are curious beginners to horology! And me being a fellow engineer as well am having a ball of a time with the technology explanations! 👍🏾
Thanks for watching!!!
Great video- makes me appreciate my mm300 with no case back a bit more! (And will stop me wearing watches in the bath/shower too 👍🏽👍🏽)
I really found your video on condensation in watches very interesting and informative. One of the best I have seen. Needless to say, I am a subscriber to your channel.
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James
Great educational video. So much more to learn. Pls keep posting them.
Of course!
very informative and great presentation.
Hey Mark thank you for your presentation hello from Atlanta Georgia
Bravissimo!!!!! Video molto professionale. Grazie mille Mark.
Very informative. Waiting for the second part. Good video!
Me too, haha!
Thank you for your tutorials!
Excellent information Marc.
Thank you so much Mark. Great video.
Great review, finally i understand. Thanks!!
Great video Mark, very informative. I believe the Sinn capsule turns dark blue as it absorbs moisture. At least that's what my 857UTC manual states.
I thought it turned pink. Well, dark blue is OK too! I tried the ice trick on both of my Sinns and indeed, they did fog (posted a pic on Instagram). But, I would say nowhere near the amount the Seiko fogged.
Thanks didn't know about the fogging effect.interesting video.carl from England.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Cool vid. Very informative as always. Thanks!
You sure know you stuff Marc, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thanks.
Thank you very much. Never seen the condensation on the inside before.
yup!
Informative and interesting. Thank you.
Good info here. Didn’t know about the condensation piece. Interesting.
Excellent information, thanks!
this was really great, keep it up :)
Excellent video, thanks a lo! I've been scuba-diving (not really deep... at around 12m or so) with a 50m Eurotime (Argentine brand) screew crown and it just keep resisting. I'm planning to keep going until the first thing happens... Water finally gets in or I need to replace the batteries... as I don't think I'll be requesting the change of seals. It has surprised me
Great video very thorough loved it but I do have a question.. What about the helium valve like the ones found in Tissot? How does it coop with water resistance?
I screw the back on under a stream of dry Nitrogen directed at the movement and the result is 0% humidity inside the case.
Just did your 'ice test' on two that have N2 and no fog or condensation. None, not even a speck.
An empty water test chamber can also be used to displace air with dry N2 by pulling the crown out.
(p.s. nitrogen is *lighter* than air)
I subscribe to some other watch ch. But find yours very informative keep up the great vids 👍
I’m glad that I’m doing research and got some brush up on science :)
Thanks for the series, very informative!
BTW what model Sinn did you have in that video, nice piece I wouldn't mind getting one.
So glad to finally hear someone talk about busting the "movement through water" myth
3:32 ) The inscription below: "Japan mov't" and the letter "t" is higher than the others) Quality is super!)
Educational video thanks for the demonstration I learned a lot. Especially related to the gaskets. Question of curiosity, do the watch companies instruct repairmen to use a lubricant or silicone grease on the gaskets to help maintain the seal? Reason I’m asking is because I scuba dive and do underwater photography and we are meticulous about maintaining our seals and gaskets on our underwater cameras.
Great informative video, keep them coming!
Will do.
Fantastic video thanks Mark
Thanks! Very informative
Another great vid, thanks.
Great content and presentation. Very informative! I will watch all your videos. Please keep up doing this. I am going to buy a Seiko diver ("new" turtle) and stumbled across your channel while getting some infos. Best I have seen. Greetings from Germany
Thank you!
I echo everyone else's comments. Very informative. Have bought 3 watches and 3 clocks from you, and will continue in the future!
thank you!!!!
Excellent video, good knowledge. Like it!!!!
Great video. lots of good info
Excellent explanation!
Very educational, thank you.
Thanks so much very informative .
Is there a specification for the amount of slippage the cannon pinion should have and would there be a tool to measure it?
Dear Marc, well done. As a Sinn-fan myself I would have love to see you perform the ‘ice-trick’ also on your Sinn with the Ar-Technology (which you did not explain in full).
With the skx007 is it advisable to screw down crown (gently) for day to day use when you're not setting the date or time?
Also is there any benefit from unscrewing the back and placing the watch and case back onto say a fine wire mesh held over the dry air outlet of a desiccant dehumidifier and after 15mins screwing the case back on to ensure it's moisture free? Would that increase the lifespan of components inside?
Thanks for video. I wish I knew this much earlier)
So true Mark.. wearing the watch in the shower is not a good thing... only exception if you are traveling and don't want to risk forgetting to put it back on,... cheers ( ryan's uncle Reuben)
Why does my jewler charge me so much for waterproofing? I looks like all you do is pop in an o-ring
Very likely they test your watch as well. Testing to 100m isn't that difficult but if you have a watch that is tested to 200m or similar that gets expensive because most places cannot do it.
@@xex2kok so, Im guessing my watch saying "300m" is most likely BS?
@@Winner3ty no
thank you for the info. as always very informative. cheers
Glad you enjoyed.
I was wondering what crystal mod that was in the thumbnail
Informative video!
Lots of useful info. Thanks for the vid
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great information.............thank you.
Thank you, most interesting.