I know this is now a year old but I bought one of these through my local PC store. They sell refurbished, boot only and not so much new turnkey systems but the parts to build new and keep older ones running/updated. Yes, configured much like yours, SATA 2.5 SSD (Crucial), 16GB of RAM, and I believe the 620 UHD? graphics. Battery seems good, came with charging brick, but no stylus and does not necessarily need one. The USB A port on the left side is the SS USB, I think 3.1, likely gen 1. The USB port on the right is 2.0. The USB C is for the display port only and the instructions DO say, do not used it with charging docking stations as it'll damage the port, which you need to know because if you google generic docking stations, most will be USB C, not A and I know Dell has made docking stations with the barrel plug for charging. Anyway, I'm sure it's not difficult to find a C to A adapter if you need to, and then just use your own brick to do the charging. Dell does sell the D3100 still, along with a couple of others, but over $100, but used ones of the D3100 can be had as open box, refurbished or used for less through eBay etc. That is likely the route I may take. BTW, I also have the 8th gen 8350U processor too, but it's SATA, though I am looking to see if indeed these come with NVME connection on the motherboard, and supposedly, you can have an NVME, and SATA SSD in them at the same time. The label this one has said it was M.2, but it actually has a 2.5 SATA SSD where the HD would have been. When I was working at a local 2 year college, they go with Dells and I've pulled more than a few of the HD's out, both for scrap but to swap out for a wiped drive (all mechanical drives) for surplus so am moderately familiar with these. Nice machines, though not having the bottom cover screws not captive was a surprise as well. I had hoped you would show where the NVME (outside of the WiFi/BT) but no as that is what I'm seeking to know for sure, and where.
If I remember right they use a caddy system that swaps out with the same connection on the motherboard itself. The manual details some parts of this I believe.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you. I did figure that out today and to do NVME, you need to use the NVME interposer and BOTH CABLES, or it'll revert to SATA speeds (Sata III). Thus, you can ONLY run one drive at a time internally. Not a big deal as that's what the fast USB and an SSD external is for.
@@LaptopRetrospective Re stumbled onto this video in research for how to reset the mics for the camera as I had to swap out laptop a couple of week into ownership on the first one when it did the BSOD and could not get out of the loop so exchanged it for an identical one, same processor etc., except that I have no working microphones and they do not show up in device manager, let alone in the sound area of settings. Only discovered this after having the second one a while when I needed to do zoom this morning. As to the drive configuration, this variant of the 2n1 only has SATA for the drive connection. You can use an NVMe drive, but only at the SATA speed. Later versions do have actual NVMe drives on the board. I found that out after I saw this video the first time. Still like it a lot. However, if you want to capture music, need to utilize USB and an ADC as the analog headphone port requires a TRRS plug for headphones that have a built in microphone and output only as a result. Otherwise, these are more than adequate laptops and with the 8th gen processor, you can max out at 32G on the memory instead of 16.
I run an Thinkpad Yoga 370 (it was that or an X270, and the 370 was on sale at the time... I occasionally rue that decision and will probably buy a X270 at some point) as my travel machine, and interestingly the exhaust is in roughly the same position as here. I get the impression they expected the machine to mostly be used in landscape, even as a tablet. Personally can't tell if that assumption was correct or not as I almost never use it in tablet mode.
I'm pretty sure. I don't have it around anymore to check but I don't recall it acting strange. I just read an article that if you have several of these units and stack them, you can trip the sensor and they will think they are in tablet mode.
Not a bad little machine, built to a price and I suspect it has evolved from its original design. Probably explains why the chassis doesn't fit with all the newer components.
Despite the DP logo by the USB-C port, and manual suggesting DP1.4 over USB-C hence alt. mode support, I'm convinced this thing doesn't actually support it. My 7490 (also UHD620) and 5400 work flawlessly... Have you tried it?
Amazing review and I feel you are spot on your comments about the heatsink! It IS a bad design that runs hotter than my wife's AMD!? On a i5 8250u it reaches temperatures of nearly 100 degrees Celsius, it averages 50-75 with min use. Have to run it on a cooling pad and even that some times feels no use... Also with 8gb of ram on both win 10 and 11 it has issues, it needs 16gb and im a basic user! Battery life overall I get 8hrs (mine is still new) 2 USB's is ridiculous even for 2018! Nice lights on keyboard My keys on my keyboard "stick" Like you said its not a bad machine and for $200 it suits my needs. It does have a lovely screen though!
Depending on the complexity of what you are doing and the system resources needed for your tasks. Checking system requirements will be very important of your most demanding programs vs the configuration of the machine.
I bought this 3390 2 in 1 from E-bay, the ad reads that it has a backlit keyboard(it does not) supposed to have come with a stylus(it did not) and the BIG surprise was there was NO BATTERY, seriously??? I bought a battery, no battery connector, I bought one, again from E-Bay, wrong connector, and the battery appears to be dead, bought another connector, again, wrong one, it will fit, however, it seems the batterty did work, (temporary) I have since then, sent the connector back, the other connector, as I lost the place I got the 1st one at, as well as the battery. The 2 main reasons I bought it was the promise of a backlit keyboard and a stylus, and the absence of a battery. Well, let's just say, I now have serious doubts that a battery will work even with the right connector. I enjoyed your video, than you very much.
I might consider modding my laptop so that the bit of heatsink that is covered up can be exposed. Any ideas on how I can do that? I was thinking of using a hot flathead screwdriver to cut a hole in the chassis but I have some other basic tools as well. Great video by the way, although it would have been cool if you disassembled the thermal model and showed the bare cpu.
Unless you know what you're doing with thermal management I don't recommend modding things like that. Regarding disassembling the cooling solution, I rarely do that unless it needs to be redone as it's a bit of a waste of thermal compound to reapply it.
@@LaptopRetrospective I have done similar mods to other laptops in the past where I cut extra holes, and to be honestly they never seem to help, but since this is a highly restricted vent, I assume it might help slightly. As for taking off the thermal module, I might have to do that and reapply thermal paste with mine because the temperatures are reaching 99c and the fans get quite loud when I plug it in to AC.
I got 3390 with a small chip on the chassis and some cosmetic damages from an eBay seller recently for $70. It has a 128gb m.SATA drive connected to a m.SATA to normal SATA adapter in a caddy placed in the 2.5 in drive slot. Looks like Dell is really just putting whatever parts they had at the moment into the chassis and trying to make it work. The rest of the specs are i5-8350u and 8gb ram (I added a spare 4gb stick so now it has 12gb). I used it to try out ChromeOS Flex and it worked perfectly-- even the inking function works with a compatible MPP pen. Unlike normal Chromebook, this doesn't have Android apps, but it does have a Linux terminal so I can install Linux apps on it.
@@LaptopRetrospective It's nice and snappy on ChromeOS Flex. Though it ran just fine in Windows, on ChromeOS Flex, it seems to run a bit snappier and cooler (with fans turning on less often). My subjective experience is in line with the Speedometer 2.1 scores-- 131 on ChromeOSFlex and 110 on Windows (with some runs dipping well below that, will apply new thermal paste to see this improves things).
Not sure if it still helps, but yes there is Type-C charging. Although not sure how fast it is, but judging by the fact that Dell sells 65w Type-C chargers (for a whopping 150usd!!) for this laptop, I'd assume the max wattage thru Type-C is 65w.
I intend to buy a model Dell Latitude 3390 i5-8300U/16/256/intel hd 620/13.3 fhd touch 360°Is it worth buying this laptop? And according to its design, may it cause a problem in the future? please direct me
When it comes to regional pricing, it's always good to compare locally. The i3 is the weaker processor but depending on your needs it might still be perfectly fine.
This looks like and almost simillar as the inspiron 7373 aside from the 7373 being made out of aluminom and have upgradeable RAM.even the way the internals was build is almost simillar. The inspiron just have a better vents.
I'm sure some people have had more experiences with these devices, but all in all I've seen Latitudes having their batteries burst or degrade in less than a year. Here's hoping this is not yet another DELL Latitude with weak cells. As for the specs rant, it's common for the Corporate line-ups to have a mid-cycle refresh late in the calendar year with a belated availability of newer chips, with the older generations left for low-cost markets, specific customer niches that need more stability in their platforms, surplus from failed leases to organizations, the education market, etc. Not wanting to forgive DELL for being sloppy in their documentation, but I can understand their lack of uniformity... Or maybe they don't take this market as seriously as Lenovo (though they probably inherited the tradition of being quite serious in their documentation from IBM...) Extra note: I find it amusing how DELL seems to have never changed their internal layout in their Vostro 3000 and Latitude 3000 laptops. Always the same location for the board (and the RAM and CPU mounted on it), the cooling solution, the optional 2.5" drive and the battery. Seen it in the Latitude 3470 I used to have, the Vostro 3450 I used to use for work , the Latitude 3410 I'm currently using for work, or the Vostro 3405 I bought last year.
I might be wrong but I feel many other brands denote the refresh with a different model, generation number or something to tell at a glance. Good points as always.
The battery issue is a typical failure mode of lithium polymer cells and generally another reason why I prefer the much older 18650 style cells as they don't inflate causing damage to the devices they power. Poor thermals and aggressive use will age cells like mad or worse cause an fire.
I know this is now a year old but I bought one of these through my local PC store. They sell refurbished, boot only and not so much new turnkey systems but the parts to build new and keep older ones running/updated.
Yes, configured much like yours, SATA 2.5 SSD (Crucial), 16GB of RAM, and I believe the 620 UHD? graphics. Battery seems good, came with charging brick, but no stylus and does not necessarily need one.
The USB A port on the left side is the SS USB, I think 3.1, likely gen 1. The USB port on the right is 2.0. The USB C is for the display port only and the instructions DO say, do not used it with charging docking stations as it'll damage the port, which you need to know because if you google generic docking stations, most will be USB C, not A and I know Dell has made docking stations with the barrel plug for charging. Anyway, I'm sure it's not difficult to find a C to A adapter if you need to, and then just use your own brick to do the charging. Dell does sell the D3100 still, along with a couple of others, but over $100, but used ones of the D3100 can be had as open box, refurbished or used for less through eBay etc. That is likely the route I may take.
BTW, I also have the 8th gen 8350U processor too, but it's SATA, though I am looking to see if indeed these come with NVME connection on the motherboard, and supposedly, you can have an NVME, and SATA SSD in them at the same time. The label this one has said it was M.2, but it actually has a 2.5 SATA SSD where the HD would have been.
When I was working at a local 2 year college, they go with Dells and I've pulled more than a few of the HD's out, both for scrap but to swap out for a wiped drive (all mechanical drives) for surplus so am moderately familiar with these. Nice machines, though not having the bottom cover screws not captive was a surprise as well. I had hoped you would show where the NVME (outside of the WiFi/BT) but no as that is what I'm seeking to know for sure, and where.
If I remember right they use a caddy system that swaps out with the same connection on the motherboard itself. The manual details some parts of this I believe.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you. I did figure that out today and to do NVME, you need to use the NVME interposer and BOTH CABLES, or it'll revert to SATA speeds (Sata III). Thus, you can ONLY run one drive at a time internally. Not a big deal as that's what the fast USB and an SSD external is for.
@@LaptopRetrospective Re stumbled onto this video in research for how to reset the mics for the camera as I had to swap out laptop a couple of week into ownership on the first one when it did the BSOD and could not get out of the loop so exchanged it for an identical one, same processor etc., except that I have no working microphones and they do not show up in device manager, let alone in the sound area of settings.
Only discovered this after having the second one a while when I needed to do zoom this morning.
As to the drive configuration, this variant of the 2n1 only has SATA for the drive connection. You can use an NVMe drive, but only at the SATA speed. Later versions do have actual NVMe drives on the board. I found that out after I saw this video the first time. Still like it a lot. However, if you want to capture music, need to utilize USB and an ADC as the analog headphone port requires a TRRS plug for headphones that have a built in microphone and output only as a result.
Otherwise, these are more than adequate laptops and with the 8th gen processor, you can max out at 32G on the memory instead of 16.
Regarding the microphone I am trying to recall if it was standard equipment or optional kit.
I run an Thinkpad Yoga 370 (it was that or an X270, and the 370 was on sale at the time... I occasionally rue that decision and will probably buy a X270 at some point) as my travel machine, and interestingly the exhaust is in roughly the same position as here. I get the impression they expected the machine to mostly be used in landscape, even as a tablet. Personally can't tell if that assumption was correct or not as I almost never use it in tablet mode.
Yeah I hope to get the chance to look at more Yoga's in the future.
Great review, I wouldn't get one with a keyboard issue.
THANK YOU
You're welcome. 😀
Is this laptop good for work ,word,power point ,excel... what Windows have
Yep, it will handle those basic tasks no problem.
It has Windows 10 Pro with support for Windows 11 (not sure if it's still Windows 11 Pro, haven't checked how Microsoft handles grandfathered users)
Do the keyboard and touchpad properly disable when you flip into tent and tablet mode?
I'm pretty sure. I don't have it around anymore to check but I don't recall it acting strange. I just read an article that if you have several of these units and stack them, you can trip the sensor and they will think they are in tablet mode.
Not a bad little machine, built to a price and I suspect it has evolved from its original design. Probably explains why the chassis doesn't fit with all the newer components.
I get the sense that Dell mastered reusing existing designs and tooling. Not saying that as a negative or positive, just the objective situation.
Despite the DP logo by the USB-C port, and manual suggesting DP1.4 over USB-C hence alt. mode support, I'm convinced this thing doesn't actually support it. My 7490 (also UHD620) and 5400 work flawlessly... Have you tried it?
When it comes to Dell and documentation, I always leave room for error.
Amazing review and I feel you are spot on your comments about the heatsink!
It IS a bad design that runs hotter than my wife's AMD!?
On a i5 8250u it reaches temperatures of nearly 100 degrees Celsius, it averages 50-75 with min use.
Have to run it on a cooling pad and even that some times feels no use...
Also with 8gb of ram on both win 10 and 11 it has issues, it needs 16gb and im a basic user!
Battery life overall I get 8hrs (mine is still new)
2 USB's is ridiculous even for 2018!
Nice lights on keyboard
My keys on my keyboard "stick"
Like you said its not a bad machine and for $200 it suits my needs.
It does have a lovely screen though!
Glad you found one at a decent price.👍
@LaptopRetrospective is the 3390 a good laptop for UX Design?
Depending on the complexity of what you are doing and the system resources needed for your tasks. Checking system requirements will be very important of your most demanding programs vs the configuration of the machine.
@@LaptopRetrospective for running figma and the rest.
I'm considering the cost and size. Especially after enjoying the slimness of the HP Stream 13
I bought this 3390 2 in 1 from E-bay, the ad reads that it has a backlit keyboard(it does not) supposed to have come with a stylus(it did not) and the BIG surprise was there was NO BATTERY, seriously??? I bought a battery, no battery connector, I bought one, again from E-Bay, wrong connector, and the battery appears to be dead, bought another connector, again, wrong one, it will fit, however, it seems the batterty did work, (temporary) I have since then, sent the connector back, the other connector, as I lost the place I got the 1st one at, as well as the battery. The 2 main reasons I bought it was the promise of a backlit keyboard and a stylus, and the absence of a battery. Well, let's just say, I now have serious doubts that a battery will work even with the right connector. I enjoyed your video, than you very much.
Glad you enjoyed the video, sorry to hear all your troubles. Hope you work things out.
I might consider modding my laptop so that the bit of heatsink that is covered up can be exposed. Any ideas on how I can do that? I was thinking of using a hot flathead screwdriver to cut a hole in the chassis but I have some other basic tools as well. Great video by the way, although it would have been cool if you disassembled the thermal model and showed the bare cpu.
Unless you know what you're doing with thermal management I don't recommend modding things like that. Regarding disassembling the cooling solution, I rarely do that unless it needs to be redone as it's a bit of a waste of thermal compound to reapply it.
@@LaptopRetrospective I have done similar mods to other laptops in the past where I cut extra holes, and to be honestly they never seem to help, but since this is a highly restricted vent, I assume it might help slightly. As for taking off the thermal module, I might have to do that and reapply thermal paste with mine because the temperatures are reaching 99c and the fans get quite loud when I plug it in to AC.
That doesn't sound good. 😂
I got 3390 with a small chip on the chassis and some cosmetic damages from an eBay seller recently for $70. It has a 128gb m.SATA drive connected to a m.SATA to normal SATA adapter in a caddy placed in the 2.5 in drive slot. Looks like Dell is really just putting whatever parts they had at the moment into the chassis and trying to make it work. The rest of the specs are i5-8350u and 8gb ram (I added a spare 4gb stick so now it has 12gb).
I used it to try out ChromeOS Flex and it worked perfectly-- even the inking function works with a compatible MPP pen. Unlike normal Chromebook, this doesn't have Android apps, but it does have a Linux terminal so I can install Linux apps on it.
Neat, I haven't tried Flex yet but I imagine it would run very well with those specs.
@@LaptopRetrospective It's nice and snappy on ChromeOS Flex. Though it ran just fine in Windows, on ChromeOS Flex, it seems to run a bit snappier and cooler (with fans turning on less often). My subjective experience is in line with the Speedometer 2.1 scores-- 131 on ChromeOSFlex and 110 on Windows (with some runs dipping well below that, will apply new thermal paste to see this improves things).
Very interesting. 🤔
USB Type-C supports charging?
Can't remember, when in doubt check the system manual. 👍
Not sure if it still helps, but yes there is Type-C charging. Although not sure how fast it is, but judging by the fact that Dell sells 65w Type-C chargers (for a whopping 150usd!!) for this laptop, I'd assume the max wattage thru Type-C is 65w.
I intend to buy a model Dell Latitude 3390
i5-8300U/16/256/intel hd 620/13.3 fhd touch 360°Is it worth buying this laptop? And according to its design, may it cause a problem in the future? please direct me
I haven't personally looked at this model. Whether it's worth buying depends on the price and what you hope to use it for.
I found i3-8130U variant of this laptop 8GB/256GB for £180, is it a good buy at this price?
When it comes to regional pricing, it's always good to compare locally. The i3 is the weaker processor but depending on your needs it might still be perfectly fine.
This looks like and almost simillar as the inspiron 7373 aside from the 7373 being made out of aluminom and have upgradeable RAM.even the way the internals was build is almost simillar. The inspiron just have a better vents.
I'm not too surprised by the similarities. That seems to be standard practice for Dell especially.
Does this support windows 11 n is it worth to put around 260 bucks for this?
8th generation Intel and above with TPM 2 will officially support it. As for whether it's worth it, that depends on your needs and regional pricing.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
I'm sure some people have had more experiences with these devices, but all in all I've seen Latitudes having their batteries burst or degrade in less than a year. Here's hoping this is not yet another DELL Latitude with weak cells.
As for the specs rant, it's common for the Corporate line-ups to have a mid-cycle refresh late in the calendar year with a belated availability of newer chips, with the older generations left for low-cost markets, specific customer niches that need more stability in their platforms, surplus from failed leases to organizations, the education market, etc.
Not wanting to forgive DELL for being sloppy in their documentation, but I can understand their lack of uniformity... Or maybe they don't take this market as seriously as Lenovo (though they probably inherited the tradition of being quite serious in their documentation from IBM...)
Extra note: I find it amusing how DELL seems to have never changed their internal layout in their Vostro 3000 and Latitude 3000 laptops. Always the same location for the board (and the RAM and CPU mounted on it), the cooling solution, the optional 2.5" drive and the battery. Seen it in the Latitude 3470 I used to have, the Vostro 3450 I used to use for work , the Latitude 3410 I'm currently using for work, or the Vostro 3405 I bought last year.
I might be wrong but I feel many other brands denote the refresh with a different model, generation number or something to tell at a glance. Good points as always.
The battery issue is a typical failure mode of lithium polymer cells and generally another reason why I prefer the much older 18650 style cells as they don't inflate causing damage to the devices they power. Poor thermals and aggressive use will age cells like mad or worse cause an fire.
At least since dell never changes the design, there's a low chance that the ram/storage will be soldiered like the ironically higher end laptops.