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The PA Profession's Turning Point: What You Need to Know!

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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
  • 🔥Big News in PA Education! 🔥
    Join me for an eye-opening discussion on the recent decision by the PAEA confirming the master's degree as the entry-level and terminal degree for Physician Assistants / Associates. 🎓
    In this thought-provoking video, I unravel the importance of the PAEA, shed light on the possible implications of this decision for the PA profession, and share my personal insights on the matter. 💡
    Discover the current state of PA education and the compelling argument for transitioning to an entry-level doctorate. You won't believe how little extra time and cost it would add to the existing structure! 🏥💰
    If you're passionate about healthcare, PA careers, or just want to stay informed about the future of this vital profession, don't miss this video!
    Hit that 'Subscribe' button and 'Like' if you're ready for an exciting new chapter in the world of Physician Assistants! 🌟
    PAEA Statment Link: paeaonline.org/resources/publ....
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    00:48 Who / What is the PAEA?
    02:25 Should PAs get doctorates?
    03:28 PA education Credits - Masters vs Doctorates
    04:39 Doctorate won't increase cost significantly
    05:19 Why decision is unpopular with may
    06:06 Masters PAs vs DNPs
    08:04 Are PAs in trouble?
    09:50 Problems transitioning to a PA doctorate
    10:52 Suggestion of better announcement
    11:57 Advocacy
    #PAEducation #PhysicianAssistant #DoctorateDegree #PAEA #HealthcareProfession #MedicalEducation #ExcitingNews

Комментарии • 27

  • @TheMedicineCouch
    @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

    Do you wish they had endorsed a move to a doctorate degree for PAs? Why or why not?

  • @heathgage18
    @heathgage18 8 месяцев назад +4

    I think providing the option for PAs to get a Doctorate with the incentive of independent practice is the way to do it. Maybe with an added 2 yr requirement of supervision under an MD like many states require for NPs. This seems like a logical way to increase the number of Doctorate level PAs and increase independence-just a thought.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  8 месяцев назад +1

      I understand what you are saying, but then the challenge comes in that many PA doctorates focus on education or leadership, not necessarily an enhancement of clinic skills specifically. So, I think it would be difficult unless a standardized, clinical doctor was developed.

    • @WillieFordham
      @WillieFordham 2 месяца назад

      Just two years??? 😮😮😮

  • @EndlessLearner
    @EndlessLearner 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is a great discussion! I am not a PA (I'm a nurse) so I don't approach the topic from that prospective, but I believe they should endorse a doctorate for PAs, especially because most other professions have already transitioned to doctorate degrees. I especially liked your comparison of the curriculum hours between PA and other programs.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, I think it's so interesting to learn about the education benchmarks. It was certainly a surprise to me when I found out, years after graduating, how much was (is) packed into our master's degree! Thanks for the important work you do as a nurse and thanks for watching!

  • @michaelk294
    @michaelk294 9 месяцев назад +1

    I graduated from my Bachelor of Science PA program in 1983 and watching this turning-point in the profession is really interesting. I wasn’t aware of the PAEA report, so thank you for the video. I think the doctorate for PAs is probably in the profession’s future simply (although not actually simple) because of PharmD, Doctorates in PT, OT, and of course DNP. The medical world in 1983 had it’s challenges but I think it’s more challenging today for PAs just starting out.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

      You're welcome! I'm sure you're right that the change isn't going to be simple. Yes, there are lots of challenges in the profession today, but I'm sure there were plenty of challenges for PAs in the early 80's, especially since I'm sure many employers didn't even know what a PA was!

  • @shalzsoulz3656
    @shalzsoulz3656 9 месяцев назад +2

    Its definitely a challenge to find PA jobs. Many times a particular organization is looking for one applicant, however they receive hundreds of applications. I know this because, when I used to apply on indeed, it would give me an update in two weeks time, showing how many people actually applied for the job. Competition is high especially amongst NPs. I would get a doctorate...especially if you have at least 15-20 years into your retirement. Future is unpredictable. Prepare yourself.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад

      Yes, I know it it pretty competitive in certain markets. It's interesting how different it can be though. I've heard many PAs say their area favors PAs over NPs and vice versa. I think you are right though, if you have a long career still ahead of you, I would definitely consider getting a doctorate!

  • @kevintorrens9821
    @kevintorrens9821 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great discussion. There was a fair amount of discussion and debate regarding making the master’s degree the minimum requirement. I don’t disagree with the premise, but I do disagree with the idea that NP’s are being hired more often than PA’s due to the DNP. The truth is that they have more authority in practice due to a more powerful lobby.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад

      I do agree with you. The laws regarding practice are definitely the driver for NPs being hired over PAs! However, with so many employers moving to AI sorting through resumes, I can easily see a doctorate degree being a sorting criteria in the near future!

    • @WillieFordham
      @WillieFordham 2 месяца назад

      I also think it’s because people know NPs and there are still a huge population that doesn’t know what a PA is and I’m not a PA and I tell people what PAs are

  • @davidalexander6500
    @davidalexander6500 5 месяцев назад

    I like your videos..
    Interestingly, I am a PA with a DHSc. I had a phone interview with a recruiter (for a job requesting an APP) who told me that “unfortunately, we are not hiring PAs yet” because NPs and PAs are not the same…and that NPs don’t need the Doctor around!

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I appreciate hearing that. It is unfortunate that the laws currently favor NPs and that so many employers are misinformed about PAs! I guess all we can do is keep pushing forward and being loud and proud about who we are and what we do!

  • @msab657
    @msab657 9 месяцев назад +2

    I am an NP with a PhD in Nursing, not a DNP. I think if your organization doesn’t want a doctorate as entry level that there should be more academic doctorates available for PAs who want to advance the science. Do they have PhDs in Physician Assistant Studies?

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

      There are quite a few programs now that provide a doctorate for PAs. The DMSc (Doctor of Medical Science) is becoming the doctorate of choice for most PAs. However, that is another problem. That degree is not exactly standardized as each school is offering a different focus. So, yeah, there is work to do their as well!

  • @winningobonitao1
    @winningobonitao1 9 месяцев назад +1

    In many ways this is great news to simply leave it. But I like the idea of just saying it is a near doctoral degree like you say we should...especially if it was few extra classes. The idea of being able to go private practice would be great. As for the non-doctoral route, I saw my friend fired as a Pharmacist because he got it at a Bachelor's degree decades ago and no longer qualified without the doctorate degree. With decades of experience was told he had to have a PharmD. Let people go on to get higher degrees if they desire. I have seen people also start decades ago with companies as "engineers". They outperform youngsters with their experiences and then lose their spot to someone with a bachelor's in engineering.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад

      Yep, definitely unfortunate when degrees are prioritized over experience! Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts!

  • @whatsyourwhycoaching6758
    @whatsyourwhycoaching6758 9 месяцев назад

    This makes me wonder about the doctorate programs for PAs currently in existence

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад

      What do you wonder?

    • @whatsyourwhycoaching6758
      @whatsyourwhycoaching6758 9 месяцев назад

      How this effects the PA doctorate programs currently in existence

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@whatsyourwhycoaching6758 Ah, yes. Well, they didn't say PAs couldn't get doctorates, they just didn't officially recognize the doctorate as the highest level PA degree. So, I think those doctorate programs will continue to operate as usually. But, there will still be no standardized doctorate PA degree and other programs won't need to be working on converting theirs.

    • @whatsyourwhycoaching6758
      @whatsyourwhycoaching6758 9 месяцев назад

      I’m saying “us” as I’m planning to become a PA (I know lol I’m close to 5.0. So I’m late to the dance) but to make and keep us competitive and creative more autonomy within our profession I think we need to have the doctorate as our terminal degree. I might be wrong though so I’m looking for guidance from those in the field.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  9 месяцев назад +1

      As long as you know what your getting into and understand the struggles of working in medicine today, and you still want to do this, I say “go for it”! You will have plenty of time for a good career. The oldest person in my class was 52!
      Yes, I think it will take several years until it becomes a huge problem, but I think PAs should prepare themselves for needing a doctorate at some point.
      I wish you all the best on your PA journey!

  • @androidaddict951
    @androidaddict951 3 месяца назад +1

    PA profession should unify similar professionals globally. Almost 81 countries have mid level clinical practitioners. If all other country rename their course/title to "Physician Associate" than we could benifited. Recognize all over the world as a independent profession like nurse,doctor,technologist.

    • @TheMedicineCouch
      @TheMedicineCouch  3 месяца назад +1

      I agree, it would be nice to have the profession standardized around the world, which like you said, would raise awareness of the profession as a whole. Unfortunately, I have started a series on my channel the PAs around the world and have found out that that is more challenging than you would think. So far, I’ve talked with PA and four different countries and I’ve learned some interesting things about the difficulties of aligning the name around the world.