I was hoping someone would do something different with their Lil Rascal. Chris, you didn’t disappoint at all. I love and can’t wait to see it finished and rippin up the back yard. As long as your neighbor doesn’t complain about how loud it is....😂
2000 watts = 2.5 horsepower. The Torque is what makes induction motors fun. It’s not going to be the fastest mini bike ever but it’ll get to top speed really fast.
It’s funny this design came out after I started my custom ‘mini’ bike that has become a monster for that very reason. Scaling is a fine balance and a one size fits all usually doesn’t work
If you start making more electric projects make sure that the battery is easily swappable between the different projects that way the cost is not going to balloon.
@@larryscarr1929 For sure i was more thinking for future gocarts and stuff. I was thinking he might want to do something with a salvage zero electric bike, and those 102V battery packs are not cheap, and he only ever uses one project at a time so swapping battery makes more sense.
@@coolfrost6 I get my batteries custom made cheep in China.. Last one was 80v 100ah lithium cost me $1700 delivered with a balancer and a charger , they sent it as just a charger, so I payed tax on 100 bucks, and no dangerous goods restriction. They will build you whatever you want at a fraction of the price you would pay here.
Alright these kind of motors is what I do so I have some infos for you! In one of my projects I use 4 of these motors with a own Self-Build Set to get to 87kmh! (55,5mph) You currently have a size 10small Gear and a size 54 big Gear makes for a Gear ratio of 5.4 Then you do have arround 4000rpm with these kind of motors(assuming you go 60V?) You have 13 inch tires which is arround 330mm. Then we take the 4000rpm divided by the 5.4 That means you have arround 740rpm on the wheels. Then taking the diameter(in km) times pi 0.00033 x = 0.0010365 Then taking that value by 740 and after that by the 60minutes gets you to a theoretical top speed of 46km/h..!(29mph) That should be fine for the motor as long as it doesnt get heavier..! If you want to do more with these motors I can send you a set where you can attach them to any kart frame!
With the right controllers and some cooling you can put 85V and 5000W on these motors! :D Its really fun to build with these because its extremly modular...
For 700$ for just the frame kit, i dont. Frame thickness and made in USA do not justify the price they are asking. For that price you get proper dirt bike or kits with engine, so why would people get this?
Been building electric motorcycles for ten years.. Save mass by using a hub motor, that one will need a chain dragging down efficiency. Also 2000 w is small for off road 10kw is where you need to be. Batteries go where the engine would go. (72v min) motor goes inside the rear hub, gas tank is where you put controller and electronics.
Great job/Choice... now planning with my grandson for his little one. Been a fabricator and designer for 50 years. Guy I get a kick out of all your builds over any of the others. Thanks for making Sunday's fun to look forward to.
What kind of ESC (Electric Speed Control) are you using? Electric motors are interesting but thy have a lot of limitations. One being that if the gearing is too high you can burn out something. I wanted to see an electric motor with a 2 speed transmission.
If you do the bigger electric motor project you were talking about I'd highly recommend AGNI/Lynch motors. They are from 10-25 KW each, small in stature, very efficient and simple.
Dude, the blooper at the end brings back bad memories. I have a scar the full length of my left hand from a piece of angle iron that pulled from my hand while drilling. Slit me wide open. During your video my first thought was oh sh**, dont lose a hand! Awesome builds by the way! Totally inspiring me to build my own.
I've used that motor before on a moped - geared it to go about 40. You might be a little disappointed with the power. You can pump more power into it with a bigger motor controller as long as you don't overheat it. Can also look into a "shunt mod" to get some more amperage put of the controller you have.
@@Truth_Spoken Well I am not trying say that I hate the build (I apologies for anticipating that) but I am just not a huge fan of electric vehicles. Still love the youtuber and the project.
I keep looking at the space above the rear tire as a good mount for the motor. Than you have the room under the seat for battery's and maybe a small drink cooler. But I am thinking about how cool this would work as a pit bike at the drag strip. For that use, it would need enough battery to run all day without a recharge.
Can't wait for part two to arrive!!! With the right batteries and gearing you can have the "Ultimate Torque Monster" or "Enough Speed To Rip Yer Face Off"!!! (Besides that, you can have reverse too!)
Now you should mount a alternator and run it off either a jackshaft, or tie it up in one of the wheels (or something) and feed the power back into the battery an BOOM Perpetual Mini Bike!
Can you explain better how that indicator worked on that round bushing??? That was neat, but I didn't understand how it got centered....I didn't see you messing with it, the dial just got closer and closer
Seen a few people build these little rascals, not seen an electric one yet though, going to be interesting to see how it goes. As for the ending scene on the drill press, done that myself a few times, thought this'll be easy then just as your finishing things get away from you.
Love this little project! One thing about electric vehicles is that they're probably less likely to #### off your grumpy neighbor who evidently doesn't like the noise of the Infernal Consternation Engines. :)
Great choice going electric, i look forward to see your finished product. BBRs rotory is the the other work i'm looking to see finished as well. I hope GPS does a contest when these have been finished
Converting it to electric is awesome. It looks dopey with the massive torque converter and belt stove sticking out one side and recoil on the other side.
Neat project, Chris, but I’m not sure you have enough reduction in the chain drive. The motor max rpm is 4300, and the rear tire is ~12” diameter. For a max speed of 25 mph, you’d need a bit more than 6:1 reduction.
Hey Chris. I'm excited to see you do an electric build. I've built a scooter/moped with that exact motor and the controller didn't last very long. It locked up the driven wheel. But oh well it was both cheap and fun as hell. Good luck with your build!
depending on the motor controller your using you should prepare for the crazy torque of that motor. dont use an on or off switch to get it moving. use a nice variable throttle so you don't go over backwards lol
Those electric motors are meant to run clockwise, notice how you threaded the nut on the motor shaft in reverse. The controller should have forward / reverse wires, so it can operate counter-clockwise rotation, but some controllers have less power in reverse mode.
You know if this works out well you will have to make it part of the Go Power Sports kit! I would love one for my kids, is what i'm telling the wife...lol
What you’re not thinking about though is the RPM range the electric motor has compared to gas. You can gear down twice as much for power and still have more top speed.
You also need to consider efficiency. If the electric motor is 80% efficient, then he'll get 1600w output from pumping 2000watts into it. The rest is lost as heat. Batteries are the achilles heel of electric builds
@@Truth_Spoken regardless it's still a small motor, I have a 2000w mid drive on my bicycle and it would be slow if it didn't have an 8 speed. I have RC vehicles that have higher wattage motors.
Try a gear ratio of 14:1. I don't know your current gear ratio but for a 2000w motor, 14:1 would be great. Given the fact that it's not a quad or a reverse trike.
Ive got the same motor on my scooter and trust me you'll wanna upgrade the speed controller to something more than 33amps constant if the battery you got can handle it. I bought a 3000w controller (48v) for it which is about 60amps constant and peaks at 80amps, which is about 4000w. id recommend something similar if you want more acceleration. You get more top speed by increasing the voltage and more acceleration by increasing the amps
Chris, for the love of god 🙏!!! Make a moch gas tank and use is as a storage for stuff. Ad a hinge to it and a small lock and it's done!
$700 that's alot of money for a bare metal unassembled mini bike without an engine!
Way over priced
Oh my God yes I could build my own for a quarter of that wow the paint alone done professionally would cost 2 to 300
Just a cheap welder and basic tools will cost less than that
Thats go power sports for ya.
Yeah its a basic small kids size and 350bux kit without an engine..
I was hoping someone would do something different with their
Lil Rascal. Chris, you didn’t disappoint at all. I love and can’t wait to see it finished and rippin up the back yard. As long as your neighbor doesn’t complain about how loud it is....😂
Are you doing an electric build so your neighbour doesn’t get mad? 😂
I think that crazy neighbor guy would get upset if Chris farted in his front yard. LOL
Yeah with a train horn, just so you can drown out his pissing and moaning over how hard done by he is.
@@Hoggdoc1946 he sounds like grandpa Simpson...!!
2000 watts = 2.5 horsepower. The Torque is what makes induction motors fun. It’s not going to be the fastest mini bike ever but it’ll get to top speed really fast.
You don't need anywhere near as much power from an electric motor to match an engine it's equivalent would be around 6hp
It bogs down on minor grades shit torque.
Always love the bloopers 😅 so glad you put those in. Most people edit to make everything look as if it went perfect.
Now THAT’S the build I’ve been waiting for! Nice job on the sprocket adapter.
That snip at the end of the video when the drill press catches the plate... Funny, mostly because we all have done that.
Your crazy neighbor can't complain about the noise from this project!!! 😁
I'm glad I watched the videos of this kit, I was gonna buy one but its way too small. Not for a 6'4 300 pounds guy
It’s funny this design came out after I started my custom ‘mini’ bike that has become a monster for that very reason. Scaling is a fine balance and a one size fits all usually doesn’t work
I agree they need a big mini bike. Lol.
@@SM-cg2dc a MEGA mini bike
Overpriced as well
Its way over priced .
If you start making more electric projects make sure that the battery is easily swappable between the different projects that way the cost is not going to balloon.
Not worth the trouble, unless it's a huge 80v 100ah lithium, if it's just 12v lead acid, probably just going to melt and need replacing.
@@larryscarr1929 For sure i was more thinking for future gocarts and stuff. I was thinking he might want to do something with a salvage zero electric bike, and those 102V battery packs are not cheap, and he only ever uses one project at a time so swapping battery makes more sense.
@@coolfrost6 I get my batteries custom made cheep in China.. Last one was 80v 100ah lithium cost me $1700 delivered with a balancer and a charger , they sent it as just a charger, so I payed tax on 100 bucks, and no dangerous goods restriction. They will build you whatever you want at a fraction of the price you would pay here.
Alright these kind of motors is what I do so I have some infos for you! In one of my projects I use 4 of these motors with a own Self-Build Set to get to 87kmh! (55,5mph)
You currently have a size 10small Gear and a size 54 big Gear makes for a Gear ratio of 5.4
Then you do have arround 4000rpm with these kind of motors(assuming you go 60V?)
You have 13 inch tires which is arround 330mm.
Then we take the 4000rpm divided by the 5.4
That means you have arround 740rpm on the wheels.
Then taking the diameter(in km) times pi
0.00033 x = 0.0010365
Then taking that value by 740 and after that by the 60minutes gets you to a theoretical top speed of
46km/h..!(29mph) That should be fine for the motor as long as it doesnt get heavier..! If you want to do more with these motors I can send you a set where you can attach them
to any kart frame!
With the right controllers and some cooling you can put 85V and 5000W on these motors! :D Its really fun to build with these because its extremly modular...
I can see a new race series "race of the rascals" sponsored by go powersports
For 700$ for just the frame kit, i dont. Frame thickness and made in USA do not justify the price they are asking. For that price you get proper dirt bike or kits with engine, so why would people get this?
@Brian W pure genius
@@ethan9659 Not at the price point for an engine-less kit.
An Azusa with an engine can be had at the same price.
Man that rear sprocket is huge that thing is going to have a hole bunch of torque
Tampa Boys Customs imagine a torque of 190 newton meter with anti wheelie on a 40-50 kg vehicle
Not really...
RAGE QUIT I don’t know to much about that kinda power I only know horsepower and specs
jjhack3r yeah its impossible in 2020 having this efficency maybe a mini airplane turbine in tinptanium but still heavy
I'll be honest, I wasn't gonna watch another little rascal bike build. But I seen the electric and said, "finally something different" great job!
One thing about this is that your wonderful neighbor can't get pissed when you ride it.
Finally!! Someone does something cool and creative with the Rascal
Thanks for NOT building the same thing as competition!
Such a cool kit
I feel another collaboration video racing these scooters in the near future!
You should make a electric go cart
That thing was awesome in person. Great job
Been building electric motorcycles for ten years.. Save mass by using a hub motor, that one will need a chain dragging down efficiency. Also 2000 w is small for off road 10kw is where you need to be. Batteries go where the engine would go. (72v min) motor goes inside the rear hub, gas tank is where you put controller and electronics.
Props for doing something different with these little bikes. No props for the drill press ‘oops!’ at the end lol.
All these lil rascal videos I think GPS will have them all in the same place one day and it will be awesome, a little army of lil rascals
Looks like the start of another sweet build
So keen for the next video, can't wait.
Keep up the good work
AMAZING! Been waiting for an electric project.
Great job/Choice... now planning with my grandson for his little one. Been a fabricator and designer for 50 years. Guy I get a kick out of all your builds over any of the others. Thanks for making Sunday's fun to look forward to.
What kind of ESC (Electric Speed Control) are you using?
Electric motors are interesting but thy have a lot of limitations. One being that if the gearing is too high you can burn out something.
I wanted to see an electric motor with a 2 speed transmission.
So if you wreck it is that considered doing the "Electric slide" :P
Honestly the most satisfying part of the vid was you making the adapter to fit the sprocket lol
Video automatically liked when you mentioned doing something electric!
Mannnnn having a lathe and a mill really allows you to capitalize on your skills 👌🏼 I’m excited to see how this turns out!
Neighbor can’t yell at you for noise if you keep going electric. Love the idea and the work you do. Keep up the good work
If you do the bigger electric motor project you were talking about I'd highly recommend AGNI/Lynch motors. They are from 10-25 KW each, small in stature, very efficient and simple.
Soooo will reverse be a part of this little tikes a-bility to navigate?
Glad to see an electric project.
Bonus, it will be quiet for your neighbor.
I like the fact that you know how to machine your own parts
It’s cool you went different like that bud awesome
Love the videos, you do amazing work. Wish that RUclips would quit it with the insane amount of ads. 8 ads just for that one video
Dude, the blooper at the end brings back bad memories. I have a scar the full length of my left hand from a piece of angle iron that pulled from my hand while drilling. Slit me wide open. During your video my first thought was oh sh**, dont lose a hand! Awesome builds by the way! Totally inspiring me to build my own.
I'm sure that someone can make a pretty good beat using the sound effects of the parts hitting the table in the beginning.
Hey, Chris... Is that a Variable speed motor? What are you going to use for a speed control? Treadmill motor controller?
A lot of other youtubers have the same kit. And the builds are pretty typical. It started getting repetitive. But this is different! I like it. 👍
Thank you! I have been waiting for this long time ago!
I'm remembering my welding teacher slapping me in the shoulder gently and telling me: "always clamp your pieces before drilling"
picked up my Uncle's habit of just holding it with some visegrips
this thing is perfect for a big back yard. love it!
Oops my maths is wrong, wheel is about 10 revs/sec, 10 yds per sec, so about 20 to 25mph. That should be spot on for that controller.
Yup I’ve been waiting for some e bikes and karts
You need to make several sprocket adapter kits and sell them for that motor.
I've used that motor before on a moped - geared it to go about 40. You might be a little disappointed with the power. You can pump more power into it with a bigger motor controller as long as you don't overheat it. Can also look into a "shunt mod" to get some more amperage put of the controller you have.
Another amazing youtuber going electric 😭😭😭
Dang man it’s one build. You really want to see another gas rascal build? Then check out all of the other channels that they sent one to.
@@Truth_Spoken Well I am not trying say that I hate the build (I apologies for anticipating that) but I am just not a huge fan of electric vehicles. Still love the youtuber and the project.
Talk about retro!!! My friend had a JC Penny mini bike with a 2 1/2hp Tecumseh on it, looked pretty much the same as this!
If you take it to the next Mini Mayhem, you and SCUBA Man can be the electric bike duo.
I keep looking at the space above the rear tire as a good mount for the motor. Than you have the room under the seat for battery's and maybe a small drink cooler. But I am thinking about how cool this would work as a pit bike at the drag strip. For that use, it would need enough battery to run all day without a recharge.
Can't wait for part two to arrive!!! With the right batteries and gearing you can have the "Ultimate Torque Monster" or "Enough Speed To Rip Yer Face Off"!!! (Besides that, you can have reverse too!)
Now you should mount a alternator and run it off either a jackshaft, or tie it up in one of the wheels (or something) and feed the power back into the battery an BOOM Perpetual Mini Bike!
Can you explain better how that indicator worked on that round bushing??? That was neat, but I didn't understand how it got centered....I didn't see you messing with it, the dial just got closer and closer
Grand job! I know this is one of few things that combines cool machineing with neet looking builds!
Hell yes!!!!!! An electric bike💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
1:01 Plenty of power? 2000W is around 2.75 hp. I very much am looking forward to seeing this
Seen a few people build these little rascals, not seen an electric one yet though, going to be interesting to see how it goes. As for the ending scene on the drill press, done that myself a few times, thought this'll be easy then just as your finishing things get away from you.
Love this little project! One thing about electric vehicles is that they're probably less likely to #### off your grumpy neighbor who evidently doesn't like the noise of the Infernal Consternation Engines. :)
What do you listen too while building?
Great project, I hope your sprocket adapter can handle the torque. I agree with Cristian, a mock gas tank would be great.
Great choice going electric, i look forward to see your finished product. BBRs rotory is the the other work i'm looking to see finished as well. I hope GPS does a contest when these have been finished
Converting it to electric is awesome. It looks dopey with the massive torque converter and belt stove sticking out one side and recoil on the other side.
Neat project, Chris, but I’m not sure you have enough reduction in the chain drive. The motor max rpm is 4300, and the rear tire is ~12” diameter. For a max speed of 25 mph, you’d need a bit more than 6:1 reduction.
Hey Chris. I'm excited to see you do an electric build. I've built a scooter/moped with that exact motor and the controller didn't last very long. It locked up the driven wheel. But oh well it was both cheap and fun as hell. Good luck with your build!
depending on the motor controller your using you should prepare for the crazy torque of that motor. dont use an on or off switch to get it moving. use a nice variable throttle so you don't go over backwards lol
Those electric motors are meant to run clockwise, notice how you threaded the nut on the motor shaft in reverse. The controller should have forward / reverse wires, so it can operate counter-clockwise rotation, but some controllers have less power in reverse mode.
Think about maybe adding an alternator to the rascal?
Will follow this project!
Yeah!!! That’s awesome! Finally!
I hope one day you’ll make an electric buggy!
Very cool! I bet that will be your super sweet neighbors fav vehicle of yours
Thats rad!
You always do excellent work 👍👍👍
Fuck yeah! I'm planning an electric bike conversion, i'm excited to follow your progress (more than usual)
I still don't understand how go power sports can justify 700$ for a rolling kit. I can go buy a coleman ready to ride at tractor supply for 800.00
Door buster sales at Rural King are $529.
$700 for this is ridiculous.
I've been wanting to see an electric build for a while
Wow Awesome , great job man 👍
Had to like the video for the sprocket work alone
Now you can silently drive past the neighbors house and throw eggs at it on Halloween
You know if this works out well you will have to make it part of the Go Power Sports kit! I would love one for my kids, is what i'm telling the wife...lol
Love your videos .learn alot from you!
Nice project! One tip. Let the materials rest against the column of the drillpress.
Stokeddddd!
i spoted a brushless motor in the thumbnail
IM IN
I really hope that motor works for you, its only about 2.6HP! 2000W divided by 750W is 2.66 HP. 1hp = 750W FYI
What you’re not thinking about though is the RPM range the electric motor has compared to gas. You can gear down twice as much for power and still have more top speed.
You also need to consider efficiency. If the electric motor is 80% efficient, then he'll get 1600w output from pumping 2000watts into it. The rest is lost as heat.
Batteries are the achilles heel of electric builds
@@Truth_Spoken regardless it's still a small motor, I have a 2000w mid drive on my bicycle and it would be slow if it didn't have an 8 speed. I have RC vehicles that have higher wattage motors.
@@curtism7203 2000w should get you over 30mph easy enough
@@samnope7344 I guess we will see soon enough won't we? 😃
Try a gear ratio of 14:1. I don't know your current gear ratio but for a 2000w motor, 14:1 would be great. Given the fact that it's not a quad or a reverse trike.
its all about wheel diameter..
nice work
cool project
Ive got the same motor on my scooter and trust me you'll wanna upgrade the speed controller to something more than 33amps constant if the battery you got can handle it.
I bought a 3000w controller (48v) for it which is about 60amps constant and peaks at 80amps, which is about 4000w. id recommend something similar if you want more acceleration.
You get more top speed by increasing the voltage and more acceleration by increasing the amps
YEEEEESSSSS! I’m so excited for this!
4:46 they often use T8F chain or know as 8mm OR more rarely or on option #25
At least your neighbors they are not going to complaint about the noise 😂😂
I really am excited for this build. I'm working on a electric dirt bike for my son. Keep it up
Im on my 3rd project with this same exact motor, absolutely love them to death!
At least you won't annoy Mr Grumpy next door when you test ride it.