Thank you for the review. For what its worth I love mine. Its tiny, effective and efficient. This might not apply to this unit, but I would note this ... NEVER store stoves or gas appliances in the "closed" position. Disconnect from the gas supply, open the valve, and store them like that. I discovered a way back that a lot of gas devices like stoves and blowtorches use rubber seals (or some other compressed material like silicone.) If you screw them up real tight into the "off" position and then pack them away, over time you actually compress the washers permanently, deforming them. This can result in them neither closing or opening properly. Great review, maybe its a build quality issue. I initially bought a Firemaple and it was crapped out and defective out of the box. I refunded that and bought this unit instead and it has served me well.
Ya, you really have to crank down on a o-ring for it to "fail". You may deform it over time, but it's no big deal to replace it. I agree the reviewer is worrying unnecessarily.
And cosidering it's only a $15 stove or so, who gives a crap if the little O ring gives up in a number of years? By that point it will be worth replacing the ring or just the whole stove... Just use it man!
The BRS stove was a design that was first designed and marketed by a company named Oil camp it is the Oilcamp lon Micro Titanium Stove...and the BRS is the China Knock-off...of a American stove design?
Not tightening the stove down onto the canister leaves the canister plunger in a position still sealing off the gas. Screw it down very snugly (don't crank on it) and the stove will function properly for a long, long time. Lubing the o-ring, as mentioned below, is good advice too.
I did have one snap in two right above the valve after about a minute of use on the first night of a trip (fourth time using). Company did not respond. Wasted a bunch of fuel. As I said elsewhere, I always carry two, but it was inconvenient and I had to change meal prep because of the loss of fuel. I'll still use, but will have a plan in place to save fuel should it happen again.
I used this stove with an Olicamp XTS pot which has a heat exchanger ring on the bottom. No wasted flame up the sides. Pot locks onto the stove support arms. Works well.
Had my first one snap in half on a mountain top. Left my second one in it's cloth bag damp. Electrolytic exchange meant the stainless steel paperclip handle 'burned' through the titanium body like a knife through butter! Recommend carrying Hexamine fuel tabs with you, reduces anxiety concerning running out of fuel. And wrap the titanium block in a piece of cotton cloth as a work around for the anodic corrosion. Having a piece of cloth handy is always useful when dealing with hot pots anyway.
Nice review. I have an almost identical set-up to yours: BRS-3000T, small gas canister, yellow mini Bic lighter, a folding titanium fork and a Toaks LIGHT pot. The main difference between your setup and mine is that my Toaks pot is the 650ml, rather than the 550ml. This means that I'm able to fit everything in the pot (including the stove, fork and lighter).
The bolt on 3 legs, can come out I found, I then got some m3 bolts with nuts, and needle nose pliers score out the leg as hole is bit smaller, I had one b4 and it has blocked up, blowing water through it can make it work again,
I carry the heavy aluminum foil folding MSR stove wind shield to block this stove from the wind and keep as much heat under the pot as possible. Plan to do a comparison on fuel use with and without. Thx for the vid. Brent
I had a dud one first, ordered a second and the second one has worked perfectly for the last year, every time. I love this little stove, but if you get a dud, bin it and try again.
I've read that the BRS 3000T uses a No. 10 O-ring which is commonly available in hardware stores for less than a dollar each ($.0.59 at local Ace Hardware). Can someone please confirm?
I had some water boil over my pot and when it hit the stove it warped the ring that holds the arms. After bending it back I still have issues with pot stability. It was just an overnight so I was able to pick up another one but if I was on trail for multiple days it would’ve been a hassle. 🤷🏻♂️ I love it and hate it.
For real, I have no clue what the heck people do to find so many problems. Jesus Christ! I use mine all the time and it has always worked as expected, I never even thought about these problems. I just use it.
I thought this was a review of the stove but it seems to be a how to for o-ring care. You can pick this stove up for $8.50 all over eBay now so don't be afraid to get a good seal on the darn thing! Remember.......only you can prevent Forrest fires!
Great stove. Love the 27gm weight. Worked perfect with my 550ml pot (only used it to heat water). Burns 8gm of fuel to boil 2 cups of water. After 50 uses my biggest concern was the valve that was beginning to stick.
The cheaper versions of this stove have a lot less titanium in them and weigh about 48g. If you are paying less than $US10, that is what you will probably end up with.
It’s not the most efficient Stove If that’s ones absolute priority but it’s amazingly light and small and you can get it dirt cheap as I said in my other post.
Thanks. Got to find something to do while healing up and stuck in a motel room. I went to alcohol stoves years ago because I could get the entire cups 2 of coffee, sans the water, into the cup with lid on. This was before the nice DIY stoves you see today but was just a tissue paper stuffed can back then. A tin pot and lid we had plenty of in camp back then as well. We all had the standard issue canteen with cup. As a junior high kid I certainly didn't notice any extra weight in my gas mask bag carried over the shoulder pack. My best partners in crime loved duck hunting, me not so much. I went to keep from being called names, and carry decoys across muddy fields apparently. That was my first other than camp use of pack stoves. It quickly carried over to my deer hunting. Sometimes the distance between the bottom of the cup and the top of the flame will change boil times in my limited experience. Obviously your stove is designed for the pot to be sat directly over the flame, so nothing I said is actually relevant, but I assume you are stuck in a Motel room wishing you were not and need something to do. Catch a cab to the public library maybe. I assume there are back pack oriented magazines although I know of none off hand. Take care Colonel and heal up nicely.
I got two. At the price of half a stove for both, and half the weigh combined, I have a backup, just in case... They do not burn evenly, and maintaining a simmer is difficult, but they do boil water quickly and economically!
@@soaringeagleoutdoors - Fair enough! I have no real reference. I used a white gas stove for a long time, and I think it might be better (more efficient) for longer trips. But I hike shorter, infrequent outings, and am getting old with bad knees. Started in mid-70s... I boiled 3L+ water on 2.14 oz fuel my latest trip (2 dinners + 2 breakfasts), and was not being particularly efficient. What is your experience?
My 550 ml toaks will fit the small 3.9oz canister. I believe you the 750 will maybe fit two, unless it is the wider version. My 750ml Evernew will hold one medium size canister (8oz, I believe) because it has a wider base.
If you put the canister in your cup upside down it gives you a little more room for your stove, lighter,.. etc because of the big dip on the bottom of the canister. You still probably will not be able to get your spork in the cup also.
i bought this stove a year ago, used it twice and didnt have any problem. but now i cant use it because it is loose somehow. i cant screw it on. how is that even possible. i couldt find anyt solution online. i m so upset. the o ring is on it, it is just loose. is there anything i could do or is it defected?
Steve, why not carry 2 small canisters? You'd take about an 1 1/2oz weight penalty, carry about the same amount of fuel but you'd have a little more knowledge as to how much fuel you have left. Once one canister is empty you'd have about 5 days to locate another canister before your second one runs out.
The pole close to the canister gets too hot after just after around 3 mins in medium setting. I feel that the O-ring in the valve can melt if I continue firing it. Do you happen also observe that?
Any of us that have worked on old cars know that there is snug and too tight when you strip the head off a bolt. Learned talent to just snug stuff down and not go too tight. Easy peasy. Have this stove and love it.
Dixie with Homemade Wanderlust experienced some of the same temperamental issues I did. Her's lasted for the entire CDT so my fears of it breaking on a long hike are probably of no concern (but PeeWee - Amanda Bess) has her's fail before she got to Franklin (less then 100 miles) so I guess you never know. At $15ish, you can't go wrong if is does fail.
Thanks for watching. I did get one of those Jabel adapters and I did a review of it. Discovered that the donation canister must be warmer than the receiving canister to work best. Great minds think alike!!
The BRS stove was a design that was first designed and marketed by a company named Oil camp it is the Oilcamp lon Micro Titanium Stove...and the BRS is the China Knock-off...of a American stove design?
I do not recomend that, the threads to attach to the cannister is made out of very cheap material and I managed to thread wrongly (half turn) and it is no longer useable, this happend on a hike and I was 55km deep in the trail, thankfully my friend I had with me had a better option with him. Just giving all a heads up!
Copy that. I have since started using thr Soto Micro regulator. It is a better quality build and more efficient. (5gm to heat 2 cups of water versus 8gm for the BRS)
Terrible quality- mine failed and broke on the first use outdoors. The weld joining the pot holder to the neck snapped spilling my small pot of water. It could have been a nasty accident but the water had only been heating for about 30 seconds.
Mine hasn't broken, but the flame management is terrible gas consumption is high to heat water - I don't backpack with it anymore. Check out the SOTO stoves. Not cheap but really reliable and efficient.
I will ask my subscribers during my next Q&A. I have not tried it myself. I plan on getting about 10 - 2 cup boils out of the small canister (3.9oz/110gm)
Darwinonthetrail says his will boil 2c up to 15 times in 4:10 @ 5k feet. That comes to 17.5 mins of useable runtime at 5k feet. You'd probably get more time if you just turned it on and let it run for some reason. Not sure if that helps and of course there a million variables such as boiling cold water each time, elevation and pot material.
Thanks for the review Steve. I've been using the same stove and like you also have the pocket rocket. I do find the BRS to be quite a bit louder than the rocket and as you also pointed out its not as efficient with fuel. I'll look forward to updates on how its working in the long run.
Aluminium foil folded over three or four times makes a good wind shield and can be used for protecting surfaces when used inside. Store it wrapped around inside of pot.
After 450 miles and around 50 uses, the few issues I had were "over time" concerns beyond any user error that may have occurrd. Check out Amanda Bess'thru hike.on the AT this year. Her BRS stove valve failed before Franklin NC. And honestly if it is a cheap product, no big deal. At less than $15US, just buy a new one right?
There is a near identical knock off stove out there that weighs 48g, look at the base tube, if it isn't titanium and looks like brass, it is the heavier one. (the real one weighs 25g)
Mine is the 25gram version. I have a SOTO stove that is a little heavier and only uses 5gm of fuel to heat up 2 cups of water. This stove uses 8 gm to heat 2 cups.
@@soaringeagleoutdoors Steve, I can get mine to heat two cups with just 7g of gas. The trick is to turn it down to half-power. At this setting, it has the same efficiency as my MSR Pocket Rocket. Which SOTO stove are you using?
I'm sorry but is the learning curve the fault of the stove or maybe everyone needs to learn how to use new products? I am starting to find that many people on social media make videos before they learn how to use the equipment they are reviewing
I think you are mis-understanding, I love the stove. I did worry that the o-ring may be a point of possible failure on a long distance hike. Other hikers have since used it for a longer period than I have so perhaps that was a worry that isn't valid. The valve for me was starting to "stick" as the part that plunges into the canister was seeming to be inconsistent in its function. If you watch Amanda Bess's channel, she is an AT thru-hiker this season. Her BRS stove valve failed before she got to Franklin. She had a backup sent from home. Honestly, at the price of these stoves, the solution is to have a backup that can be sent out on a long thru hike. This stove will work great for most of the backpackers that are weekenders or short section hikers..
@@soaringeagleoutdoors - so, like others have said.. carry a few extra o-rings.. they cost pennies and you can just stitch them onto the carry bag.. problem solved. CRANK IT TIGHT!
just FYI, i have a FireMaple FMS300t, basically the same concept. And I've tightened it all the way, and it worked good,... until it didn't. The o-ring failed after the thread! The thread unscrew itself and moved outside, rendering the connection useless... Even if I put it back, thread element goes withing 2 minutes of boiling automatically outside again (( I don't know what to buy now that wouldn't have the same issue.
@@soaringeagleoutdoors Actually, I would say that since the thing only weighs an ounce, and only costs $15, the solution is just carry an extra with you. I know the saying, ounces make pounds and pounds make pain, but come on, we're literally talking about AN OUNCE. That way, you don't have to wait for one and eat cold food. Not having a back up for something like that on a thru-hike is bordering on irresponsible.
Your doing it wrong...You are supposed to hold the stove upright and steady with one hand and screw the canister onto the bottom of the stove with the other...This allows the canister to rotate much faster than screwing the stove onto the fixed canister so if there is any gas released while your putting it onto the canister it's such a brief release it's not even worth worrying about. Just make sure you close the valve before putting it onto the canister because you will probably find you have to open the valve slightly to get the handle to line up with the barrel of the stove when you fold it up to put it away. And don't worry about the O-ring...I used my first BRS thousands of times all over Europe and the O ring never failed. In fact the 7/16" thread in the bottom of the stove failed, but not the O ring! Your using the BRS wrong too...Do NOT use full power or it will just use more gas...turn it down to a moderate level and it will only use 4-5g of gas to boil 2 cups of water. In fact if used correctly, a 100g canister can last a whole week with the BRS and boil at least 15 litres of water. Also, don't throw your 100g canister away, just get one or more of the several types of cheap refill adapters now available and refill it from a bigger canister, which works out much cheaper. 100g canisters (which weigh 200g when full) will fit inside most common Titanium camping pots, like the ultralight Toaks Light 650ml Ti pot (inc. lid), for example, along with the BRS, a lighter, a folding spork and more, for extremely compact storage. Make sure you replace the stock mesh storage bag that the pot comes with a much lighter DCF version and you have the perfect ultralight cook set.
You are doing it wrong...Hold the stove steady and turn the cylinder to tighten it, don't turn the stove. And you don't need to do it on a flat surface either...you can tighten the cylinder on even when the stove and cylinder are on their side.
I compared by MSR pocket rocket to this stove boiling 2 cups of water and how much fuel was used. I honestly don't care how long a stove takes to boil because what else are you going to do but wait anyway at camp when we are only talking a few minutes difference between a good stove and a bad stove (enjoy the evening). If I remember right, the pocket rocket used 7gm and the BRS used 8gm, so I took the BRS on my flip flop attempt. After getting back home, I watched a video by Red Beard (channel Will Wood) and his go to stove was the SOTO. He liked it because it had a regulator that was designed for high altitude. I bought one and it took only 5gm of fuel to boil 2 cups of water. The last 800 miles of the AT remaining for me is a more remote area as far as finding cannister fuel (was having a challenge when I got of trail May 2017 in NY). I am taking the SOTO back out because of it low fuel consumption. Hope this helps
@@soaringeagleoutdoors OH YES, THANK YOU. AS YOU SAID TIME IS NOT AN ISSUE BUT HOW MUCH FUEL USE TO DO IT IS RELATIVE TO THE TIME SOMEHOW. IS SEEMS A GREAT TOOL FOR SURVIVALIST SCENARIOS . I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOTO. GLAD YOU HAD THE ANSWER , HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR STEVE.. KEEP ENJOYING THE GREAT OUTDOORS.. . SORRY FOR THE CAPS, IS JUST MY EYESIGHT IS BRUTALLY BAD AT SHORT SIGHT ..
It's like any other fuel vs. stove system. Learn it and secure it. To me this isn't a negative it's just a component learning curve. It's not the same design as an MSR. It's not the same design of a Coleman propane stove. Learn the equipment. Plain and simple.
LOL. Not like I haven't heard that in the comments a 100 times. I have abandoned the stove. It is a fuel hog and on long distance hikes (requiring multiple resupply points) the SOTO stove I use now uses almost 40% of the fuel to heat 2 cups of water (8gm vs 5gm). i can easily use the smaller 3.9 oz fuel canister without peril of not having enough fuel and the canister/fuel weight I save more than makes up for the slight increase in stove weight (and it has a regulator for high altitude performance). Plus I have decided to stop supporting cheap chinese intellectual property rip offs. Happy Hiking!!
Its a piece of shit stove. A titanium stove for 15 bones? You know something's wrong. It's poorly designed. Not sure if there are different standards for canister nozzles BUT if you dont tighten it, it leaks. If you do it BREAKS... TOTAL GARBAGE...
John Galt why not? I turn on my gas stove in my kitchen daily. This is basically the same thing, just smaller and portable. Don't be scared of things you don't need to be scared of.
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Thank you for the review.
For what its worth I love mine.
Its tiny, effective and efficient.
This might not apply to this unit, but I would note this ... NEVER store stoves or gas appliances in the "closed" position.
Disconnect from the gas supply, open the valve, and store them like that.
I discovered a way back that a lot of gas devices like stoves and blowtorches use rubber seals (or some other compressed material like silicone.)
If you screw them up real tight into the "off" position and then pack them away, over time you actually compress the washers permanently, deforming them.
This can result in them neither closing or opening properly.
Great review, maybe its a build quality issue.
I initially bought a Firemaple and it was crapped out and defective out of the box. I refunded that and bought this unit instead and it has served me well.
I had no problems what so ever with mine. Had for 3 years and I use 3 to 5 days a week, I use it when I'm on my job site.
what the max amount of people this can feed? or the biggest pot you can put on it, including liquid weight
Is it normal that gas starts flying out the cylinder when I try screw it in? Not sure if I’m doing something wrong 😑
Just tighten the stove down securely; replacing a rubber O ring is easy.
Ya, you really have to crank down on a o-ring for it to "fail". You may deform it over time, but it's no big deal to replace it. I agree the reviewer is worrying unnecessarily.
A tiny bit of silicon grease goes a long way towards keeping o-rings from drying out, which is the main reason they fail.
And cosidering it's only a $15 stove or so, who gives a crap if the little O ring gives up in a number of years? By that point it will be worth replacing the ring or just the whole stove... Just use it man!
You can buy new O-RINGS at this link m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10209549770621052&id=1830882061
The BRS stove was a design that was first designed and marketed by a company named Oil camp it is the Oilcamp lon Micro Titanium Stove...and the BRS is the China Knock-off...of a American stove design?
Not tightening the stove down onto the canister leaves the canister plunger in a position still sealing off the gas. Screw it down very snugly (don't crank on it) and the stove will function properly for a long, long time. Lubing the o-ring, as mentioned below, is good advice too.
I did have one snap in two right above the valve after about a minute of use on the first night of a trip (fourth time using). Company did not respond. Wasted a bunch of fuel. As I said elsewhere, I always carry two, but it was inconvenient and I had to change meal prep because of the loss of fuel. I'll still use, but will have a plan in place to save fuel should it happen again.
Thanks for the validation. I have stopped using it for long distance hikes.
The purpose of the o ring is compression. Easy replacement and you should always have an extra on hand.
I used this stove with an Olicamp XTS pot which has a heat exchanger ring on the bottom. No wasted flame up the sides. Pot locks onto the stove support arms. Works well.
Had my first one snap in half on a mountain top.
Left my second one in it's cloth bag damp.
Electrolytic exchange meant the stainless steel paperclip handle 'burned' through the titanium body like a knife through butter!
Recommend carrying Hexamine fuel tabs with you, reduces anxiety concerning running out of fuel.
And wrap the titanium block in a piece of cotton cloth as a work around for the anodic corrosion.
Having a piece of cloth handy is always useful when dealing with hot pots anyway.
Nice review.
I have an almost identical set-up to yours: BRS-3000T, small gas canister, yellow mini Bic lighter, a folding titanium fork and a Toaks LIGHT pot.
The main difference between your setup and mine is that my Toaks pot is the 650ml, rather than the 550ml.
This means that I'm able to fit everything in the pot (including the stove, fork and lighter).
To do it over again I would go with the 650ml too
I love this stove super easy too use highly recommended
My stove has the same issues as yours, but overall it is still working well after 3 years of use.
The bolt on 3 legs, can come out I found, I then got some m3 bolts with nuts, and needle nose pliers score out the leg as hole is bit smaller, I had one b4 and it has blocked up, blowing water through it can make it work again,
Thanks for sharing
I think the pot supports suck. They get bent and no longer tight or level. At least on my BSR. Continued using my pocket rocket.
Totally agree
I carry the heavy aluminum foil folding MSR stove wind shield to block this stove from the wind and keep as much heat under the pot as possible. Plan to do a comparison on fuel use with and without. Thx for the vid. Brent
I have this. Used it a couple of times now..great so far!
I had a dud one first, ordered a second and the second one has worked perfectly for the last year, every time. I love this little stove, but if you get a dud, bin it and try again.
Thanks
I've read that the BRS 3000T uses a No. 10 O-ring which is commonly available in hardware stores for less than a dollar each ($.0.59 at local Ace Hardware). Can someone please confirm?
I had some water boil over my pot and when it hit the stove it warped the ring that holds the arms. After bending it back I still have issues with pot stability. It was just an overnight so I was able to pick up another one but if I was on trail for multiple days it would’ve been a hassle. 🤷🏻♂️ I love it and hate it.
I only use it now in my winter emergency box in case I need heat or to melt snow for water
Definitely user error on my part. It’s a lot to ask from an ounce!! Thanks for the vid and the reply.
Very useful review. I can't tell though....is that a 110g canister, or a 220g?
It has been a while but I believe it was the 110g
@@soaringeagleoutdoors Thank you.
So why didn't it leak gas like you said as you kinda casually screw it onto the gas canister? I didn't hear any hiss, what did you do?
Don't baby it, screw it down and get going. I have 3 of the same type stove and one with a flex hose. 3 years, no prob.
For real, I have no clue what the heck people do to find so many problems. Jesus Christ! I use mine all the time and it has always worked as expected, I never even thought about these problems. I just use it.
Good to know, thank you. I'll get some extra o-rings. Ordering one today.
Thanks. That's a highly concerning point of failure. I far prefer carrying a few grands of beefier grommet
I thought this was a review of the stove but it seems to be a how to for o-ring care. You can pick this stove up for $8.50 all over eBay now so don't be afraid to get a good seal on the darn thing! Remember.......only you can prevent Forrest fires!
Great stove. Love the 27gm weight. Worked perfect with my 550ml pot (only used it to heat water). Burns 8gm of fuel to boil 2 cups of water. After 50 uses my biggest concern was the valve that was beginning to stick.
The cheaper versions of this stove have a lot less titanium in them and weigh about 48g. If you are paying less than $US10, that is what you will probably end up with.
@@russellmoore1533 Not true, Russell - I bought mine for USD $7 and it weighs 25g.
I get that "psshh" with Snow Peak and Primus stoves as well, maybe more so than the BRS.
It’s not the most efficient Stove If that’s ones absolute priority but it’s amazingly light and small and you can get it dirt cheap as I said in my other post.
Hope all is well
Thanks. Got to find something to do while healing up and stuck in a motel room. I went to alcohol stoves years ago because I could get the entire cups 2 of coffee, sans the water, into the cup with lid on. This was before the nice DIY stoves you see today but was just a tissue paper stuffed can back then. A tin pot and lid we had plenty of in camp back then as well. We all had the standard issue canteen with cup. As a junior high kid I certainly didn't notice any extra weight in my gas mask bag carried over the shoulder pack. My best partners in crime loved duck hunting, me not so much. I went to keep from being called names, and carry decoys across muddy fields apparently. That was my first other than camp use of pack stoves. It quickly carried over to my deer hunting. Sometimes the distance between the bottom of the cup and the top of the flame will change boil times in my limited experience. Obviously your stove is designed for the pot to be sat directly over the flame, so nothing I said is actually relevant, but I assume you are stuck in a Motel room wishing you were not and need something to do. Catch a cab to the public library maybe. I assume there are back pack oriented magazines although I know of none off hand. Take care Colonel and heal up nicely.
I got two. At the price of half a stove for both, and half the weigh combined, I have a backup, just in case...
They do not burn evenly, and maintaining a simmer is difficult, but they do boil water quickly and economically!
True enough, but for a long thru hike I have found that it is a gas hog and I can go further on less isobutane with other options.
@@soaringeagleoutdoors - Fair enough! I have no real reference. I used a white gas stove for a long time, and I think it might be better (more efficient) for longer trips. But I hike shorter, infrequent outings, and am getting old with bad knees. Started in mid-70s...
I boiled 3L+ water on 2.14 oz fuel my latest trip (2 dinners + 2 breakfasts), and was not being particularly efficient. What is your experience?
@@coachhannah2403 my BRS uses 8gm to heat 2 cups while my Soto only uses 5gm
@@soaringeagleoutdoors - Good to know!
Do you know how big of a gas canister will fit in a 750ml toaks
My 550 ml toaks will fit the small 3.9oz canister. I believe you the 750 will maybe fit two, unless it is the wider version. My 750ml Evernew will hold one medium size canister (8oz, I believe) because it has a wider base.
in a 750ml a 100grs canister fill fit perfectly!
If you put the canister in your cup upside down it gives you a little more room for your stove, lighter,.. etc because of the big dip on the bottom of the canister. You still probably will not be able to get your spork in the cup also.
i think the underside of the stove is really hot! i',m afraid the gas-can can explode! did you have let him burn for more than 20 min?
I only used it to boil 2 cups of water as I was doing freezer bag cooking. So, probably no more than 5 minutes at a time.
i bought this stove a year ago, used it twice and didnt have any problem. but now i cant use it because it is loose somehow. i cant screw it on. how is that even possible. i couldt find anyt solution online. i m so upset. the o ring is on it, it is just loose. is there anything i could do or is it defected?
I believe you have a defective one. i would return it.
Name brand of that foldable fork?
Toaks
@@soaringeagleoutdoors thanks much
Steve, why not carry 2 small canisters? You'd take about an 1 1/2oz weight penalty, carry about the same amount of fuel but you'd have a little more knowledge as to how much fuel you have left. Once one canister is empty you'd have about 5 days to locate another canister before your second one runs out.
Honesty, I prefer the small but they are harder to find on the trail.
It's the msr fuel cannister. No issues with jet boil cannister
The pole close to the canister gets too hot after just after around 3 mins in medium setting. I feel that the O-ring in the valve can melt if I continue firing it. Do you happen also observe that?
It does get hot but the O ring after about 50 uses is still holding up but I think over time the O ring is the weak point
The o ring is probably heat resistant silicone.
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Soaring Eagle Outdoors, I really enjoyed your AT videos. I hope your health is well and you are getting some hiking in. Nice to hear from you.
Did a few sections of the Colorado trail this summer but then we started having problems with the wildfires.
Any of us that have worked on old cars know that there is snug and too tight when you strip the head off a bolt. Learned talent to just snug stuff down and not go too tight. Easy peasy. Have this stove and love it.
Dixie with Homemade Wanderlust experienced some of the same temperamental issues I did. Her's lasted for the entire CDT so my fears of it breaking on a long hike are probably of no concern (but PeeWee - Amanda Bess) has her's fail before she got to Franklin (less then 100 miles) so I guess you never know. At $15ish, you can't go wrong if is does fail.
Can this work on any tanks with threads?
Yes it will
great video, you could aways carry the small adapter to refill your canister from the cheaper canisters if you stuck.
Thanks for watching. I did get one of those Jabel adapters and I did a review of it. Discovered that the donation canister must be warmer than the receiving canister to work best. Great minds think alike!!
The BRS stove was a design that was first designed and marketed by a company named Oil camp it is the Oilcamp lon Micro Titanium Stove...and the BRS is the China Knock-off...of a American stove design?
It's "Olicamp", not oilcamp.
I can't see it on Olicamp's website, Friar. olicamp.com/stoves.html?product_list_limit=all
I do not recomend that, the threads to attach to the cannister is made out of very cheap material and I managed to thread wrongly (half turn) and it is no longer useable, this happend on a hike and I was 55km deep in the trail, thankfully my friend I had with me had a better option with him. Just giving all a heads up!
Copy that. I have since started using thr Soto Micro regulator. It is a better quality build and more efficient. (5gm to heat 2 cups of water versus 8gm for the BRS)
Did you sign off with a "See ya later, bye" after watching too many Gator Miller videos? I have done that more than once in my videos.
I did watch all of Gator’s videos so he probably did run off on me!!
Ran out of fuel today with my BRS. Anyone know how to tell what the fuel level is without a scale?
I know on the side of MSR canister there is a technique for floating it in a pot.
That works with any canister Steve.
Is this still working?
It is, but it is a fuel hog. Uses 8 gm to boil 2 cups. I switched to the Soto and it only uses 5 gm to boil 2 cups
Terrible quality- mine failed and broke on the first use outdoors. The weld joining the pot holder to the neck snapped spilling my small pot of water. It could have been a nasty accident but the water had only been heating for about 30 seconds.
Mine hasn't broken, but the flame management is terrible gas consumption is high to heat water - I don't backpack with it anymore. Check out the SOTO stoves. Not cheap but really reliable and efficient.
The escaping gas is the fault of the canister not the stove. Coleman gas canisters don’t do that.
Does anyone know how long it this will burn if left on?
I will ask my subscribers during my next Q&A. I have not tried it myself. I plan on getting about 10 - 2 cup boils out of the small canister (3.9oz/110gm)
Darwinonthetrail says his will boil 2c up to 15 times in 4:10 @ 5k feet. That comes to 17.5 mins of useable runtime at 5k feet. You'd probably get more time if you just turned it on and let it run for some reason. Not sure if that helps and of course there a million variables such as boiling cold water each time, elevation and pot material.
Graham McCord it will burn until it's empty.
@@THExLAWxMAN You are exactly right Stacy (lol)
at some oring lube on it.
Thanks for the review Steve. I've been using the same stove and like you also have the pocket rocket. I do find the BRS to be quite a bit louder than the rocket and as you also pointed out its not as efficient with fuel. I'll look forward to updates on how its working in the long run.
Where are you Big Bird.
Aluminium foil folded over three or four times makes a good wind shield and can be used for protecting surfaces when used inside.
Store it wrapped around inside of pot.
Mate thats called user error ! really ? Are you low on blood sugar or something
After 450 miles and around 50 uses, the few issues I had were "over time" concerns beyond any user error that may have occurrd. Check out Amanda Bess'thru hike.on the AT this year. Her BRS stove valve failed before Franklin NC. And honestly if it is a cheap product, no big deal. At less than $15US, just buy a new one right?
Nice review,Steve.
There is a near identical knock off stove out there that weighs 48g, look at the base tube, if it isn't titanium and looks like brass, it is the heavier one. (the real one weighs 25g)
Mine is the 25gram version. I have a SOTO stove that is a little heavier and only uses 5gm of fuel to heat up 2 cups of water. This stove uses 8 gm to heat 2 cups.
@@soaringeagleoutdoors Steve, I can get mine to heat two cups with just 7g of gas. The trick is to turn it down to half-power. At this setting, it has the same efficiency as my MSR Pocket Rocket. Which SOTO stove are you using?
I'm sorry but is the learning curve the fault of the stove or maybe everyone needs to learn how to use new products? I am starting to find that many people on social media make videos before they learn how to use the equipment they are reviewing
Thanks for the FYI on the "O" Ring. I have the same stove which I have used about 8 times. I'm using a piece of foil for a wind screen. Take Care
Never use a windscreen on a canister stove. It heats up the canister bottle and could cause it to explode.
I watched this again and it drove me crazy to listen to you had talk the stove when you aren't using it correctly. It's an o-ring. Tighten it.
I think you are mis-understanding, I love the stove. I did worry that the o-ring may be a point of possible failure on a long distance hike. Other hikers have since used it for a longer period than I have so perhaps that was a worry that isn't valid. The valve for me was starting to "stick" as the part that plunges into the canister was seeming to be inconsistent in its function. If you watch Amanda Bess's channel, she is an AT thru-hiker this season. Her BRS stove valve failed before she got to Franklin. She had a backup sent from home. Honestly, at the price of these stoves, the solution is to have a backup that can be sent out on a long thru hike. This stove will work great for most of the backpackers that are weekenders or short section hikers..
@@soaringeagleoutdoors - so, like others have said.. carry a few extra o-rings.. they cost pennies and you can just stitch them onto the carry bag.. problem solved. CRANK IT TIGHT!
just FYI, i have a FireMaple FMS300t, basically the same concept. And I've tightened it all the way, and it worked good,... until it didn't. The o-ring failed after the thread! The thread unscrew itself and moved outside, rendering the connection useless... Even if I put it back, thread element goes withing 2 minutes of boiling automatically outside again (( I don't know what to buy now that wouldn't have the same issue.
@@soaringeagleoutdoors Actually, I would say that since the thing only weighs an ounce, and only costs $15, the solution is just carry an extra with you. I know the saying, ounces make pounds and pounds make pain, but come on, we're literally talking about AN OUNCE. That way, you don't have to wait for one and eat cold food. Not having a back up for something like that on a thru-hike is bordering on irresponsible.
Your doing it wrong...You are supposed to hold the stove upright and steady with one hand and screw the canister onto the bottom of the stove with the other...This allows the canister to rotate much faster than screwing the stove onto the fixed canister so if there is any gas released while your putting it onto the canister it's such a brief release it's not even worth worrying about. Just make sure you close the valve before putting it onto the canister because you will probably find you have to open the valve slightly to get the handle to line up with the barrel of the stove when you fold it up to put it away. And don't worry about the O-ring...I used my first BRS thousands of times all over Europe and the O ring never failed. In fact the 7/16" thread in the bottom of the stove failed, but not the O ring!
Your using the BRS wrong too...Do NOT use full power or it will just use more gas...turn it down to a moderate level and it will only use 4-5g of gas to boil 2 cups of water. In fact if used correctly, a 100g canister can last a whole week with the BRS and boil at least 15 litres of water.
Also, don't throw your 100g canister away, just get one or more of the several types of cheap refill adapters now available and refill it from a bigger canister, which works out much cheaper. 100g canisters (which weigh 200g when full) will fit inside most common Titanium camping pots, like the ultralight Toaks Light 650ml Ti pot (inc. lid), for example, along with the BRS, a lighter, a folding spork and more, for extremely compact storage. Make sure you replace the stock mesh storage bag that the pot comes with a much lighter DCF version and you have the perfect ultralight cook set.
Poor musician That blames the instrument. Just tighten the stove as it's meant to be. Amazing how well it works when operated properly, isn't is.
User miss operation. If ring fails then replace for cents.
Solution?
Buy extra O-rings.. Or another stove, they are cheap as chips..
You are doing it wrong...Hold the stove steady and turn the cylinder to tighten it, don't turn the stove. And you don't need to do it on a flat surface either...you can tighten the cylinder on even when the stove and cylinder are on their side.
Wtf? Lubricate the o-ring.. Its not a big deal... Most things will fail w/o maintenance.
Canister stoves are cool but totally reliant on prosperity. I carry a small folding wood stove and never worry about fuel.
On the AT once the winter dead fall has been burned it gets more challenging to find any size wood to burn.
Wood fires are completely illegal to use on some trails. There are places open fire is absolutely banned (but stoves are not) especially on the PCT.
I'ts $16 .
SEEMS NO ONE HAS MADE A TEST WITH WEIGHT AND HOW FAST WORK ON EX. BOILING WATER, LIGHT WEIGHT CONTENT AND THE SAFE HIGHER WEIGHT.
I compared by MSR pocket rocket to this stove boiling 2 cups of water and how much fuel was used. I honestly don't care how long a stove takes to boil because what else are you going to do but wait anyway at camp when we are only talking a few minutes difference between a good stove and a bad stove (enjoy the evening). If I remember right, the pocket rocket used 7gm and the BRS used 8gm, so I took the BRS on my flip flop attempt. After getting back home, I watched a video by Red Beard (channel Will Wood) and his go to stove was the SOTO. He liked it because it had a regulator that was designed for high altitude. I bought one and it took only 5gm of fuel to boil 2 cups of water. The last 800 miles of the AT remaining for me is a more remote area as far as finding cannister fuel (was having a challenge when I got of trail May 2017 in NY). I am taking the SOTO back out because of it low fuel consumption. Hope this helps
@@soaringeagleoutdoors OH YES, THANK YOU. AS YOU SAID TIME IS NOT AN ISSUE BUT HOW MUCH FUEL USE TO DO IT IS RELATIVE TO THE TIME SOMEHOW. IS SEEMS A GREAT TOOL FOR SURVIVALIST SCENARIOS . I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOTO. GLAD YOU HAD THE ANSWER , HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR STEVE.. KEEP ENJOYING THE GREAT OUTDOORS.. . SORRY FOR THE CAPS, IS JUST MY EYESIGHT IS BRUTALLY BAD AT SHORT SIGHT ..
Happy new years to you too Max Gal
I hate when you have to use stuff right to make sure it works. Durrrrrrr.
It's like any other fuel vs. stove system. Learn it and secure it. To me this isn't a negative it's just a component learning curve. It's not the same design as an MSR. It's not the same design of a Coleman propane stove. Learn the equipment. Plain and simple.
LOL. Not like I haven't heard that in the comments a 100 times. I have abandoned the stove. It is a fuel hog and on long distance hikes (requiring multiple resupply points) the SOTO stove I use now uses almost 40% of the fuel to heat 2 cups of water (8gm vs 5gm). i can easily use the smaller 3.9 oz fuel canister without peril of not having enough fuel and the canister/fuel weight I save more than makes up for the slight increase in stove weight (and it has a regulator for high altitude performance). Plus I have decided to stop supporting cheap chinese intellectual property rip offs. Happy Hiking!!
you need to go to the gym and work on those thumbs...
Its a piece of shit stove. A titanium stove for 15 bones? You know something's wrong. It's poorly designed. Not sure if there are different standards for canister nozzles BUT if you dont tighten it, it leaks. If you do it BREAKS...
TOTAL GARBAGE...
I have now abandoned it for a Soto. More heavy, but is uses less fuel to heat 2 cups of water
I would never light one these indoors, ever.
John Galt why not? I turn on my gas stove in my kitchen daily. This is basically the same thing, just smaller and portable. Don't be scared of things you don't need to be scared of.
Sooner or later you have to take off the pocket rocket off a sealed gas will escape from the outer ring. Poor review.
Lots of whining..poor review.
So, you like your reviews to be full of posies and puppy dog tails?