Alan Wake 2 | 7 Echoes of the Remedyverse
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2023
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Alan Wake 2 has come and we have a load more to discuss. The game itself was so crammed with easter eggs and connections to other Remedy properties. Some are obvious. Some are obscure. Today we will be focusing on 7 Secret References that you may be have missed.
Alan Wake 2 | 7 Echoes of the Remedyverse
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The second he introduced himself as SHERIFF BREAKER I had a big, dumb grin on my face. Alan Wake 2 is my favorite game of this year and maybe several. I need to know Tim gets out of the Dark Place.
True. I was not expecting the Quantum Break connections to be some of my favorite parts of the game. Shawn Ashmore is a great actor as well. He deserves to have a sort of revival thru Alan Wake
No spoilers….but be excited for Night Springs DLC ep 3!
I wonder if his cousin Sarah from the first game is going to pop up in Control 2. I think it's implied that she works for the FBC.
@@friggity They state she works for the FBI now at some point early in Alan Wake 2.
@@Sammo212 Actually, Tim just mentions that she went to work for "the Feds." It's never directly stated that she went to the FBI. It's possible she's in the FBC, not the FBI.
The door with the "DOORS" symbol on it is room 103 in the Oceanview hotel, and in the Elderwood Lodge, room 103 is the door that an NPC continuously knocks on throughout the game, eventually pounding and slamming into it near the end. And if I remember correctly, you could hear knocking from outside one of the Oceanview Motel doors in Control.
Supposedly the hotel is somewhere where every now and then a motorist does come and knock to see if it is opened. I understood that is what happened on Control ... However, this being an issue makes sense to me... But who is she trying to get into? And I wonder now about the doors that won't open in the motel
All the symbols confuse me I know the one Jesse uses and the spiral is Alan’s but what about the others
The elderwood lodge has some history on the plaque outside, I wonder what the lodge was in its previous life or what happened there
Now whenever I play a Remedy game I get caught up in the lore and I want to replay the older Remedy games. I'm trapped in a Remedy loop.
Same! Each time we get a new one we see the others in a new light
It's a spiral
And each replay would occur when a new Remedy game comes out.
You're in a Remedy spiral.
One thing I love about the Oceanview Hotel is its address: 3 Cord St. It's just three pulls on the light cord away.
Also this is probably more along the lines of "easter egg" than "lore" but one of the security computers at the Valhalla nursing home is operated by "Marshall Security: Control & Beyond." The logo is a white pyramid on a red background.
Is it an upside down triangle or a right side up white triangle?
@@Jupiter9999it's Blum's computer in the Wellness center, I think it was the inverted pyramid, same as in the Oldest House
The consistency in the RCU lore and the confidence to include story elements for games that weren't even released yet shows how much faith they have in themselves to tell a great story. Bravo Remedy, I tip my hat to you.
What I would give to sit in their writing room for an afternoon
@@GamingUniversityUoG 21 dolar
Oh my god, that Dylan call is so sad. He's so scared in his coma. He's not just peacefully sleeping. My heart.
I felt the same
Unrelated but I think you can see a Cult of the Tree mask during that call? Pretty wild foreshadowing
This is a good sign. We now know that his state of mind was not wiped out after Jesse closed the Hiss off from the Oldest House. There is still hope that Dylan will pull through.
the connections are genuinely mind boggling. ive heard its hard enough to make a video game in general, let alone one that is fun to play. the fact remedy does both, while connecting game after game after game is next level
And the connections are all done in such creative ways too
@@GamingUniversityUoG it starts out feeling like that Charlie Day whiteboard meme, but with remedy, PEPE SILVIA IS FUCKING **REAL**
That incredibly specific foreshadowing in the Take Control song is actually insane. The fact that they had that specific plot point planned out for Alan Wake 2 like... years before the game came out and possibly before it was even in development is insane. Sam Lake is a genius. Control had me convinced but now with Alan Wake 2 revealing the full connected universe I'm quite obsessed. It's literally infecting my dreams now... lol I've been playing AW2 every night before bed.
Fun to play ? Not that much
Late Goodbye by Poets of the Fall from Max Payne 2 foreshadows the events of Bright Falls - the official prequel movie for Alan Wake. The song is first heard in MP2 whistled by a janitor wearing headphones. The song's official music video features a middle-of-nowhere motel and the band can be seen performing inside, with some truly ghastly orange wallpaper. This exact same wallpaper is found inside the Oceanview Hotel in Alan Wake 2.
I know it's more obvious but Tim's board mentioning a red headed woman while he talked about dreaming of other realities involving him made me squeal. Good on Shawn Ashmore for coming back. Also, Tim Breaker just said Sarah "Joined the Feds." I bet she's in Control 2. Her father was FBC after all. Alice and Barry both have Blessing stuff tied to them (Alice's boxes and Barry's email though I know you mentioned you weren't going to talk about them) but honestly some of the stuff involving Alex Casey is what's most mysterious to me. Casey feels like the center of the spiral. There is FBI!Casey, Book!Casey, Dark Place!Casey, Film (hollywood)!Casey and Film(Zane)! Casey. On some level I worry it's Sam Lake doing some ego stroking, related but separate... is this all Max Payne's dying dream?
Sam Lake would never ego stroke - he values *story* above all else.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Sarah got clues about Chester Bless somewhere down the line and began investigating him. It might explain why Barry is interacting with him so directly despite being such a no-bullshit type of character.
Something I can't get out of my head is if you take Martin Hatch, flip the M and uncross the t you get Warlin Hatch, look for a synonym for hatch, Door and get Warlin Door. On top of the memorial for Lance Reddick, Brett Madden and Sami Vanhatalo really gave me a feeling like we would have seen them again in the game
100% I imagine what would have happened if we didnt loss them before now. RIP
I've not seen anyone mention this yet, (maybe because of the final draft dlc? or maybe nobody noticed) The owl in Alan's writers room shifts its head to wherever Alan stands, just as soon as you move the owl out of sight by your camera. Also in one of the videos by Alice wake, i think part 2-2 , she is wearing an Owl themed shirt
Also when jesse goes to see Dylan he tells her about dreams he had, specificaly about how he had dreams of a "Detective on a story but in another one the detective was real" and that "there was a man with the same faces but they where in deiferent places" wich means he saw the events of Alan Wake 2 and Quantum break, also i think he also mentions Mr Doors
Some people have also pointed out that Sankarin Tango's lyrics being about Alan Wake make even more sense in AW2's context.
I love how you recreated the visual style and font of the chapter titles from AW2 for your on screen text headings for each section of this video. Nice job with the video overall, but that was a particularly nice touch!
Yellowbat, the channel's editor, wanted to play around with format after AW2 came out. This is one of his new additions. Glad you enjoy!
@@GamingUniversityUoGreally plays into your channel’s style, i dig it
@@GamingUniversityUoGwhat is the font used in those titles?
Remedy's world building is just legendary. It's so deep and interwoven that it's impossible to recognize everything at just a first glance, but delving deep into it, again and again, is like a bottomless well of rewards for those - like yourself - who engage in it and share it. Cheers and thanks for all the videos!
About the White Triangle: I think it's OUR reality.
Dylan implies not only that he knows that he is in a game, but that there is a specific reality in which they are a game or are experienced through a game.
I would connect this to the White Triangle door not only because it's the only one we don't know anything about, but also because the Koskella Book Club having the same triangle could be a reference to that (the book club = a place where people read and discuss books/stories = our world)
Glad they mentioned Thomas Emerson, he's real scary
Love Emerson. Wonder how he's doing
They actually tweeted about that poster too
My headcanon’s always been that the white pyramid would be a symbol for Paracriminal Organizations like Blessed, power without limit, chaos, that sorta thing. But if that, uh, copyright symbol is Control 2, yeah, no clue.
Also, had no idea about that lost Dylan dream and it’s terrifying, I think cuz we know most of his dreams are legit.
At this point they should be hiring you to connect this Verse.
Respect and keep up the epic work dude your Content always keeps me A-WAKE to this Universe hehe.
i hope he gets the opportunity to visit Remedy one day , his questions for Sam Lake would be legendary
I would 100% be on board if I got an invitation out to Finland for a visit.
I found the room number 665 somewhat interesting. Recently watching your video about The Other, the Board says "Objects of Power are holders/665 to The Other/Blessing". I have no idea how to interpret it but it doesn't seem like it's a coincidence
665 Neighbor of the beast. The phrase has been in several remedy games
665 showed in max payne 1 to open a door neighbor of the beast in remedy verse looks like gray personality sometimes open the door to the beast sometimes fight it back.... tom was the one nicole horn was the one max payne after killing so many ppl in his revenge was the one ...and all time invitation completed everything going to chaos max blow up factory and old building in brazil...alan blow up that part in oceanview and metro line cult was there
The amount of details in remedy games absolutely insane. Absurd details that you brush off, but when put under the microscope, you just say "holy shit"
Right?! Just you wait for next week there is some more of this that blew me away when I discovered it.
YES!!!! I’ve been counting the days since Game Release for your insightful theory / breakdowns 🙏 THANK YOU ‼️
Another one in the editing phase now! Got maybe a half dozen already planned.
I like to think Sam had all this laid out years ago and is now finally able to put his vision to work
He probably had as a lot of AW2 stuff can be seen as "prototyped" in American Nightmare - the videos of Scratch killing his way through town, the loops that evolve into spirals, achronal implementation of things Alan changed to facilitate his escape, Alice's work in memorializing him and Old Gods writing a new song *specifically* for the purpose of helping Alan Wake for a climactic fight with Scratch?
This has all happened before!
The DOORS connection is even cooler.
The door in the Lodge in Bright Falls (103) has a lady banging outside the door trying to get in. 103 is the Doors door in Oceanview in the Dark Place....
Nice catch. I was wondering what was up with that lady. She really wants to get in there lol.
The secret Dylan hotline call is a gem!
P.S: If Remedy will ever cast Aidan Gillen as Chester Bless in a future game I will screaming out loud "YESSS!".
P.P.S: I don't know if you took a look at the datamined audio teaser for the AW2 Night Springs DLC (and cmonn they left them on purpose for us! They're not that dumb lol) but holy f**k Remedy is going full swing for the Remedyverse.
That would be a cool connection if one of the versions of Paul ends up being Chester!
I have not looked st any of the data mined info so I'm not going to read the rest of your comment yet. Be back after we get the dlc dropped
Oh God, what a great idea! Paul became a full-blown Shifter like Hatch after being defeated in Quantum Break and becomes Chester Bless after learning about the existence of Objects of Power and Altered World Events. Maybe even his abilities as a Shifter are what allows him to be such a talented paracriminal that he can manufacture OoP’s outright.
After all, he has experience with both. What is the Countermeasure if not an OoP, and what is the End of Time if not an Altered World Event? 👀👀
@@xCarnageV1I don’t think the countermeasure or end of time fit Control’s logic very well. An altered world event is an effect of an altered item, which are linked to collective unconscious, or a threshold of a world bleeding into ours. The countermeasure is also not an OOP or an altered item as it isn’t affected or created by the collective unconscious or can be bound to anyone. Also an OOP specifically have to be under the reigns of the Board or The Former to be bound to anyone or even classified as an OOP.
@@ContrastCopy I generally agree, but Hatch explains finding a ‘natural’ Time Machine in a cave. That’s how he became a Shifter. The powers that the Countermeasure tap into could be, at the very least, something beyond the understandings of our reality.
Time is talked about and played with extensively in Alan Wake 2, where Tim Breaker also appears with egregious connections to Jack Joyce and Mr. Door, so I’m just trying to contextualize the events of QB with the story threads Remedy has given us in AW2.
@@ContrastCopy And to expound on this: The Countermeasure was only created as a means of tapping into Time as we understand it, or the collective unconscious belief in how Time works, and how it can be held together in the event that it breaks down. The End of Time can be considered a Threshold as it irrevocably alters the reality it intrudes upon and is host to the presence of the Shifters, who for all intents and purposes exist beyond our reality and yet within it, behind the veil.
The concept of Time itself is just that: a concept, an archetype to describe the motion of reality. The Fracture only occurs because Wilder, Joyce, and Serene go back into the past to obtain the Countermeasure, in an attempt to fix the Fracture. The End of Time only occurs because of their meddling in the past and their belief in how time works. It was a device that was only created for the express purpose of stopping the thing that it ultimately ends up being the cause of, activated by the very same people who were so desperate to stop it in the first place: an ouruboros of creation, not unlike Alan’s journey.
Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites!
I have thoughts on film Zane vs poet Zane as one being his Scratch. When Alan in is the Dark Place, his Scratch is borne of his inner feelings of rage and the public perception of him. When Saga enters, her "scratch", whom she tries to profile, is made of her fears and perceived failures.
I think that when Zane went into the Dark Place, he wrote himself and Barbara out of reality, and his Scratch was left behind for us to interact with.
The Dark Presence creates a version of a creative/parautilitarians "bad parts," the things about us that eat away at our true selves. Alan's was his anger, Saga's, her fear. For Zane, it was his vices.
Checks out. It also makes sense that this one is running amuck given that Zane just made a pocket dimension for him and Barbara. Zane never faced his demons like Alan did, so his scratch is just left free.
BTW the Koskela Book Club logo can also be found in Alices appartment during the last visit in the logo of a moving box but titled as "Blessed moving company" this opens a possibility of connection between the Koskelas and The Blessed Company
I love this channel. And I love Alan Wake 2 gave us a Tim(e) Breaker that interacts with Martin Hatch’s alter ego Warlin Door, and has dreams of Dr. Darling in his Hedron form, and Jesse trying to get him out, but then Tim seeing an alternate universe versiom of Jesse, Beth Wilder. The game connects Quantum Break in creative ways to the Remedyverse and I am all for it because I love all of Remedy’s Sam Lake stories.
"baby baby baby" -Mr. Door, also the Hiss chant
Pretty sure Dylan was in Alan Wake 2. I haven't seen a single person mention it. Near the point of no return I saw him in the bright falls hotel behind the bar, I had a picture of him up on my other screen while I was looking at what was seemingly him in Alan Wake 2.
That Hotline call, damn. Poor Dylan can't catch a break! I can only hope he and Jesse get some nice sibling moments in Control 2...
I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this before, but...
In AW2, Scratch/Casey declares YOU ARE HOME in the nursing home hospital - definitely part of the Hiss incantation.
I feel like we as Remedy fans are going to eat well in the future, if these connections lead to something more!
Great job there, Dean! I definitely enjoyed this! That hotline call from dylan was heartbreaking.
Poor guy was in a coma last time we saw him. Hoping we wake him up soon.
It's a little character breaking I feel like, since last time we actually spoke to him he was quite arrogant and self absorbed (likely due to the Hiss), and to have him suddenly change to this scared childish self that she could recognize as her actual brother feels a bit off imo.
I'd like to think Dylan's been scared child inside all along.
@@misterpillows2800 yes, I'd just like them to establish more clearly how much influence hiss had on his attitude
And this is why we need a full-blown narrative Death Rally sequel in the RCU
Awesome video! I learnt about Dylan's hotline call only few days ago and I can't help but wonder why didn't it make it in the final cut?
Amazing job connecting all those dots on the Sterling AWE. Thank you, that was really helpful.
In American Nightmare we have Balance Slays the Demon with a backward recorded line which references Control; In Control we have Take Control which references Alan Wake II in the same way.. I didn't notice any backward recorded line in any of the new songs so perhaps could this be the end of the OGoA's insights??
And I am pretty sure you already know that project Vanguard is being rebooted and renamed Kestrel.
Also 10:40 Holy sh*t! that gave me goosebumps! The editing of the whole video is simply sublime. Yellowbat at their finest!
❤️
He is absolutely incredible!
The earworm in a dream thing is so crazy because I've been playing Alan Wake so much before bed recently, and I keep having Herald of Darkness just playing on an endless loop in my dreams. In the dreams I'm walking through the woods on a loop and finding echoes. I've been waking up every morning with that song still playing in my head. I've always had very vivid dreams and I'm a musician so songs stick in my head very easily. But, it's been a wild experience to play a game like Alan Wake, all about absurdity and dreams, only to have my own dreams connect to the game...
My man, you are the Remedy
@@mr.radovic702 I know right… I’m just hoping I don’t end up in the dark place….
Thomas Anderson is Neo. Kung fu, game designer, world is a dream.
Mullet Time = Bullet time.
Good video! Love how you mentioned Time Knife (my favorite screenplay!)
All joking aside there is honestly so much to unpack in Alan Wake 2, with so many references to all the games (even Death Rally with the arcade machines) there is so much to analyze, and with the Final Draft releasing recently there is going to be even more stuff to analyze!
This makes me so excited for more! I cannot wait for the AW2 DLCs and Control 2 and all of their upcoming games!
The amount of planning for these games is crazy. Just makes playing so much more enjoyable.
Thank you for these videos. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite channels!
Thank you so much! I thought my mind was playing tricks with a few of these. But , I've learned with these games to trust nothing is placed in-game by accident
The neon signage that shows up in some room permutations in Alan's side if you add Cult keywords doesn't always form triangles for the cult logo, but V-signs, like Valkyr graffiti scattered across Max Payne.
(One set shows up in the subway tunnels, another in the rehearsal space, IIRC).
You also seem to skip over how the Cult of the Word has a logo made out of the same triangles but laid out into a W shape, and that appears among the actual doodles Ilmo made you can find in the Cult's headquarters at the Kalevala Knights workshop.
(You also talked about the True Tom Rhymer connection on one of the Hidden Machine podcasts, but I don't think you put it in a lore video yet?)
Your videos are top tier when it comes to comprehending the Remedyverse. Keep it up dude. I always listen when I play Control. Can't wait to play Alan Wake 2.
Great content as always, I'm a hard remedy lore guy. I had a video covering 5 of the 7 of these and another 5. Do you know how many videos I've had to scrap because your content is edited better and you get it done faster? Still, nothing but love man, just like Remedy you Always deliver. I'm going to stick to game reviews until I have more time. I love the Lore and theory aspects of games, but you're doing it so damn good. Keep it up!!!
Haha in sorry buddy! I've done that a few times as well when other creators did some topics I started.
If you're interested I'd love to have you on as a guest speaker for a video. Plug in your work.
Love your Channel, i love Remeday and their Universe so much thanks for pointing such Stuff out :D
This analysis is absolutely bonkers, in an awesome way. Your knowledge of the RCU is trully a case of study. Well done sir!
I am begging for a comparison between Quantum Break’s Martin Hatch, and Alan Wake 2’s Mr. Door. Are they both part of the same door family that Mr. Door mentions? I’m really excited to hear more about this
Based upon what we have seen they were intended to be the same character. Plans had to change though.
10:22 okay but I just now noticed that he says that he put them into a shoebox.. could this have any connection to the paranatural qualities shoeboxes have in the dark place?
The shoeboxes are that way because Zane made a loophole back in the day that anything stored Jan. shoebox is immune from reality alterations.
@@GamingUniversityUoG yeah, I was more so thinking if him putting those cut out words into the shoebox first has any significance or if it's just a random phrase really. If it could, for example, have an effect on the hiss chant in the sense that it would prevent it from being influenced by the dark place and straying away from Alan's original intent. I don't really have the evidence to back this up though lol
In regards to the 'sun' that Dylan saw in his dream: He initially thinks it might be Jesse, but quickly realises it isn't her. Based on one of the scenes in Control, near the climax, could that description fit Polaris?
these videos are always great, really well edited too
Very cool findings! Especially the earworm thing, it's such a great detail
Love your Remedyverse content. Would love to see more on this based on the NG+ / The Final Draft and how Alan Wake 2 sets up the future of the Remedy Verse with a bit more spoilers. :)
At 9:23 could Control 2 be a game where the hiss have taken over NYC and we have to defeat them again. If it is I could see Agent Casey making an appearance.
Thank you for the video!
Loved it!
You got it! Glad you enjoyed
With this connected universe come so many possibilities; we could have games of a great variety of themes and tones. I have a few ideas myself for Project Condor. When I first heard that it was going to be a multiplayer game, I was a little disappointed because I don't like multiplayer games that much. In my mind, those games are not that story-driven. But then I started thinking of ways that the game could appeal to people like me. So, this is how I see it.
In Alan Wake 2, Agent Estevez mentions that the FBC has containment facilities after the dark presence leaves Alan's body. For all we know, there could be hundreds of these facilities all over the country. So, I think that Project Condor should take place in one of these facilities. We would play as a group of Rangers in charge of making sure that the paranatural entities and altered items in the facility don't escape.
The game could be played as a four-player "A Way Out," in which each player would be part of the same story. This would make the game a coop PvE, but it would be very story-driven. In terms of the story, we could have a massive containment breach in which a handful of paranatural entities escape. We have to recontain them before they escape the facility. At some point, we could learn that the containment breach was caused by a blessed organization operative that infiltrated the facility, setting up control 2 along the way.
That's just my idea on how this game could further build this world.
So there's confirmed DLC? That's wonderful! There's so much left to address, connections to make, perspectives to explore! I hope the planned DLCs are a huge hit and inspire Remedy to make more.
There are two confirmed DLCs. Lake House which deals with the FBC facility. And Night Springs.
Fantastic video dude, can't wait for more!
Awesome video! Getting into Remedy games was one of my best choices this year
Welcome aboard friend! I hope you enjoy your stay on this Remedy Crazy Train
So the Koskela Brothers, or at least, the Cult of the Tree was born during Control's development!!! Gotta love Remedy! Their storytelling is amazing 🫶
The dodecahedron and dog thing could also be a reference to faster than light travel of information via QUANTUM entanglement as a reference to, you know, QUANTUM break.
They could be trying to say that the platonic shapes hold special power and are existing in the ideal (platonic) world and not just our real world.
In a sense those shapes allow you to mess with the fabric of the "Ocean" such as the board being a pyramid and having its own branch in space, and the items in quantum break and sterling also allowing people to tap into the "Ocean" without being part of the special family of "Door" people that can do that at will.
Holy SHIT Alan Wake wrote the Hiss??? This confirms everything I was hoping
Great job as always mate.
You're awesome thanks Willis!
Wow, excellent video !
14:58 This is absolutely insane. Remedy hiding a secret message in a SONG in a game in 2019 to directly describe events explained in a game four years away... What the hell.
Remedy has always done crazy stuff like this. That's why we love them!
I might be going out on a limb here but i think that the oldest house's counterpart is the dark place. Not in an absolute way but id like to think that both locations have some form of will and they might be at odds with each other. One is clearly more stable and formed for order while the other is a mess of dreams and chaos.
After playing AW2 I went and replayed Control. I was over the Moon when I revisited one of Dylan's dreams where he talks specifically and in plain text about the dark place and Mr. Door:
ruclips.net/video/1yYjOZXvHj4/видео.htmlsi=jOnD-CGXK_CqF9wJ&t=667
Thankfully Mr. Door wasn't took keen on letting Dylan allow the Hiss through his doors...
Mr. Door seems to be one of those Chaotic Good types personally.
Will we be getting an update to this after you finish The Final Draft? There’s some things that I imagine would have been covered in this.
But anyway, really great video, the narration and editing were amazing as always!
I love that one of the doors is just named "Control2". Remedy, please, we need it asap.
Last I heard from the shareholders meeting is Control 2 is in the concept phase currently.
@@GamingUniversityUoGso it IS happening! Yess!!!!
This was so good!!
The thing that bugs me still is the Return Trailer in Quantum Break. Control!Saga not being related to Door/Hatch, her Casey dying...
If people are played by the same actor, they are related in some way it seems in Remedy.... What about the characters portrayed by multiple different ones?
I think the ‘Doors’ door is connected with Hatch/Door and has to do with the time corridor in Quantum Break. You walk thru a series of doors and end up in another time. Door being Hatch, a being in between and outside time has a more natural way of walking between them
Oh btw arent there lights in alan's sections literally in the shape of a V? The second my bro saw it he was all valkyr
Yep! I noticed that too after the video finished editing. Too late to add it in but yeah it is kind of nuts.
excited to be here with yall now!!
Glad to have you aboard the Remedy insanity train
Those doors in the Oceanview! In both games I really, really wanted to open them and see what's going on.
I think we will learn more as we go. New games new Doors
Hey man I was just watching your post game discussion with max from a month ago, I noticed you said TOM RHYMER(not sure about the last name) went to elfland and came out 7 YEARS LATER in the famous story. and then he went back to elfland and never returned. I also noticed in your video with hidden machine and someone else that you guys said Tom might be Alan’s father. ALAN WAS BORN 7 YEARS AFTER TOM DISAPPEARED ALMOST AS IF HE CAME OUT LIKE RHYMER DID. I fully believe for now that he is Alan’s dad and that Tom and Alan have more control/connection to the dark place than everyone else
Story of origin is fascinating, how the same characters get remixed into other stories
9:35 The image from the left looks like the VOID in Nigth Spring DLC when Tim is looking for Door.
Amazing video... thank you
We might want to look to Norse mythology for some of these possible connections. There are plenty of outright references to this mythology.
Oh 100% if we looked at every connection we would have a 2 hour video. I mostly focused on the more obscure stuff.
Thanks for the video! Every time I hear “peace be with you all”, it’s special for me, since I live in Ukraine. Promise, I will subscribe to your Patreon, when things will be better, your channel is one my favourites on RUclips ❤
I find it interesting that the "Doors" symbol has what appears to be four rectangles. Possibly one each for Hatch, Warlin, Saga, and Logan? Each one over the other and seemingly protected the other, smaller ones. I've already wondered if the "someone close to me" being threatened by Wake's writing was not Saga, but Logan (or both of course is possible).
Damn Anderson Brothers... Great backstory that we all love to find out more about (don't know if it's enough for a video)
But wouldn't it be cool to have something like the game "A Way Out" buy playing the Anderson Brothers in their "Origin Story" back in the 70s?
2 player co-op, pick your Anderson Brother and let's get to the bottom of this. Battle the Dark presence, get an awesome soundtrack, the dark one, lose one eye (the wrong one)... all while getting drunk on moonshine. Now that's a great game right there!
14:00 As vehicles, Time Breaker chapter Night Spring DLC...we use of one of those shape to charge the steak to them use the TV to move across dimension. Sorry...don't remember all acronyms that Sam said to Shawn : )
Nice video! I noticed the V reference. Ever since you finished the normal game I've been thinking about something. What if the Andersons call Alan Tom precisely because they are not affected by art made near Caldron Lake or in the Dark Place
The ramifications of that thought I have no idea how to respond lol. I don't think Remedy has given us enough info to guess about Tom yet. Or maybe in missing something
I love d&d and didn't realize that theres a decent amount of d&d references going on. The dice shapes being relevant to tim breaker somehow, and he mentions that he played d&d when he was young
I got the platinum for alan wake 2 and started to played control, and Im loving it so much. The thing is, I find the game kinda creepy, so I aint gonna lie I struggle to play it alone 😂
Oh no! Get yourself a buddy to play it with and freaky then out too lol
I'm going nuts. Remedy are so damn crazy to connect their games this deep. I can only take off my hat.
11:27 The level Tim goes through - we play in Time Breaker chapter / Night Spring DLC
Also, one of Dylan's dream is about Wake and Door
Also also, in the beginning and the ending Alan cites words from Zane's poem about a miracle illuminated, the poem in question was referenced by Jesse in Control in the recording from her therapy session.
Nicole horn is in Alan wake 2, her “client” was imprisoned at the start of the game.
I really curious how yötön yö holds its secrets.
I'll get to the song at some point for sure
@@GamingUniversityUoG and the short film too!
Can someone make a video on really important questios: What alan eat and drink in the dark presence all those 13 years. How he did his usual physical needs, where, and with who.
Also, the same question is about the furniture that wasnt in the room and suddenly appeared in the room of the aw2. Thanks
Just to put this out there the Mirror Mountain that reflects in the water gives me major Board vibes...
I find it really interesting how the brothers made a tree out of the board's symbol. I think it has to be connected to the oldest house somehow.
The Oldest House may or may not be Yggdrasil (and a symbol for it shows up in the Foundation (not the DLC but the main story location) and in the subway before Alan comes into Nightingale's overlap), so... Who knows?
Wasn’t Polaris in decahedron?
And doesn’t the overlap with Alen Wake in AW 2 doesn’t it look like the foundation where you meet the exiled board member?
Lol so many things to consider
Hedron had a ton of sides to it. Like hundreds. Largest one of these we see is 20. But I imagine there are more than the basic 5.
Remedy are so intelligent, what a studio
I think that it is Jack Joyce from quantum break becouse Tim says in his dreams he usually has another job and name.
Faden appears in the TV when Alan get drunk in the motel
The game ends and we don't know what happen to Door and Tim, and i'm sure we are going to have a Control 2 and another game with all the characters involve.
I wonder if Door is Martin Hatch from QB, but the actor at the time is dead now, so they put David Harewood.
On IMDB appears a coming Alan Wake II serie.
I think in the remake of Max Payne we are going to see this universe more connected
5:00 Thomas Zane driver's poster. Night Spring DLC. Time Breaker chapter Ocean View Hotel section.
How the fuck do you find some of these, and the brain to keep all of these in mind… Jesus I love your channel….
This video just blew my mind how Remedy keeps notes of basically every single god damn thing they've ever put in their games. Insanity. This makes me love their RCU more than ever after finishing Final Draft.
*15:20 OMFG HOW FAR BACK TO THEY THINK ABOUT THIS STUFF?!
Then it will really bake your noodle that Tom was first mentioned in Death Rally. Released even before Max Paybe. True Tom Rhymer.