JEDI SURVIVOR PATCHED | Are These the Frames You've Been Looking For?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Star Wars Jedi Survivor has received a PC patch just days after release to address the bad framerates, stuttering and low GPU usage. Does this patch bring us closer to the dark side or will a rebel force fight back for the Return of the FPS?
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Its unreal all they had to do was delay it a few days for it to be significantly better on PC instead of releasing it knowing it was broken
Yup and now that bad impression is what most gamers will remember and that's trust that is hard to get back.
@@jokerproduction yeah. Unfortunately, stuff like this will continue until people stop preordering. Thanks for your diligent effort on stuff like this to keep us informed.
No its not on par i can do 144fps on fallen order easy and not even close here
@@djbpresents9584 yeah I wasn’t saying it was perfect but this patch seems to have made the game a lot better and it only came out a few days later. Point being, just delay it so that people paying full price on launch get a better experience
@djb presents the optimization is on par. You can certainly expect that to get more frames as it doesn't look as good as this. The lighting is much better and there is tons more environmental detail.
5800x 3d 7900xt yesterday 1440p 50 1% 70avg fps today after patch 74 1%-90 avg
wait there was a patch today and yesterday?
The frames have improved, but it appears that they just lowered the detail of the medium and far-drawn images/textures.
They just should have released the game with those patches by taking 1-2 weeks extra and it would have been massive success for EA and the game itself.
I think they wanted to avoid Zelda because that game is going to suck the air out of the room and needs its own month for players to be done with it.
Koboh for me has been the main issue, once it hits the more linear parts of the maps it's fine, but Koboh the utilization goes way down. And it's still crazy that I have a 7900 xtx a $1000 GPU paired with a 5800x, more than capable of running this game and the utilization is just all over on Koboh
Yeah its the worst in the main town where all the vendors are. My 13900K is not being utilized at all in that town.
@@EldenLord. --- What sort of frame rate are you getting in the town with the 13900k?
@@truthseeker1995 With RT around 60 FPS but only 66% GPU usage and many CPU cores at 0%. Without RT I have to check again.
@@EldenLord. --- Huh, maybe I should wait another year or 2 before a CPU upgrade.
FYI - this is a next gen only game. It is not available on PS4 or Xbox One. That's part of the reason this game is so "heavy" compared to the last one.
Already downloaded the patch, very excited to see the improvements
I just finished downloading the patch and now the game crashes upon starting 😂... I was able to play before, now it's broken... Oh EA, you never disappoint
i have a 6700xt, 64gb of 3600mhz ram and a 5800x, running off an nVME SSD, either meeting or above the recommended. Mostly okayish, hovering around 60-80 most areas except for Koboh which tanks performance, and has constant stutters. Still has a ways to go. Also still having problems with settings changes not doing anything, and FSR does almost nothing when on quality. Very very rough port. I'm enjoying the game though. Just wish it wasn't so technically broken.
Game definitely needed more time in the cooker. I'm noticing the animations dont line up with the environment (The running looks like he's just sliding along with no friction between his feet and the ground, and the hanging doesn't look like he's gripping the wall). Its like the character animations move at independent rates of the motion to the background, with no collision detection.
This is why it’s hard to really trust performance reviews of someone rocking the fever dream gpu instead of more reasonable hardware. Because while I’m sure joker here is having a good time on his 4090 now, it scales far ahead of even a 4080 or 4070 ti so he’s powering through bad optimization with brute force and then telling the audience “yeah this is on par with fallen order now as far as unreal engine performance”
It’s not.
For starters, on my 4070 ti and 5800X set up, the starting area is not fixed it’s hanging in the mid 50’s at times once you get control of Cal and that’s WITH FSR on at 1620p dldsr. The second area of the game still performs abysmally dipping into the 30’s at times.
Should I even CONSIDER turning ray tracting on, the fps will swing from a locked 60 to 30’s because the cpu performance is still poor, and my gpu will just be sitting there board out of it’s mind a 16% utilization.
Speaking of ray tracing, the solution to that being “Well just turn ray tracing off” Doesn’t really work here since both consoles have rtx on in their graphics and performance modes and the game is BUILT around having rtx on so without it alot of materials don’t reflect properly and have alot of artifacting. I paid damn near 2500$ for this pc and all it’s parts to be getting performance WORSE than what a 500$ ps5 would have got me AND worse visuals because the game constantly crashes with rtx on jedah.
This is not fixed, and this performance is NOWHERE close to what it is with fallen order, and it’s important to remember when you’re rocking a 4090 that you are rocking a 4090 that can just brute force through alot of performance problems and then when someone who has something like a 4080 even that takes your word for it, they’re going to be in for a terrible time once they boot this game up
They clearly knew about these issues and released it anyway. There is no way they identified these issues and figured out fixes this fast unless they had already known about it before release day.
Question. Because of this video, I tried to play again last night. I have a 3080ti, 10900k, and I play on a Samsung G9 super ultrawide. It started out in the first cut scene at like 80-90+ fps. Then, once the game started it dropped back down where it was before...40-50 fps. Am I doing something wrong?
Pairing a 4090 with a 9900k is rediculus. A 12900k with a 4080 performs probably better 😂😂😂
Joker, you really need to play a bit further. Performance gets so much worse after discovering the city and doing open world stuff. At least it did for me.
without FSR on my 3080 it looked like crap! like 720p, huge difference when I enabled it
Sorry if I missed this but is this a fresh install? Because you also could be seeing improvements from a lack of shader caching
Yo Joker. Glad to see you are still doing youtube.
This is good news a game runs well with the patch and within a week of release. Shame other games wont work like this going forward with new patches better still games should run well on day release and we shouldn't need to wait for patches
70fps on the easy to run planet is not "good". Koboh still runs like ass and Jedah still hard crashes.
patch did very little for me it went from 40-45 fps with a 99% of 24 to the same 40-45 fps with a 99% of 31
Yea it’s still trash
Even the old one has bad stutters and dips for me.
I511k - 6800
Maybe I missed it but what are your settings? I have a 9900KS and a 3080 Ti, trying to get an idea what can I expect when I finally pick it up. For reference, I'm a 1440p guy.
I'm running ryzen 5600 with RTX 3090 getting 30-40FPS. You'll probably do better with the 9900KS. Resolution seems to have no effect on frames for me even as low as 480p.
Bottom right of screen.
All areas now run decently for me except for koboh particularly in the town, its still horrible in that area
maybe they had it running fine but something was causing issues so they had to roll it back for launch
I bet they just removed denuvo
The patch fixed everything for me, even though i have shit old gpu
What are your GFX settings?
Bottom right says it. 4k native epic.
I'm really enjoying Jedi Survivor and the latest patch does help indeed, and I don't need RT as the game itself looks awesome! As long as it was playable on day one, I was still satisfied with my purchase. Thanks, Joker and keep up the good work👍
The problem I have is that without raytracing on, my space screen reflections in bodies of water (like the rivers of kobo) look bugged/glitched and so ugly, like I can even see in some places like a "square" in the middle of the water, is so bad that I can't play without raytracing because of how much it bothers me
@@eloverlord96 I observed that myself and I can’t unsee it. Definitely annoying and with a 4080 I feel like I should have console equivalent settings (ray tracing) with playable fps
It’s still fucked !!!!! I’m on a 4090 and 13900k and it’s dipping into the 50’s and stuttering is still there
Fsr looks bad with regular rasterazation, but with rt on it doesn't look bad, at least not now imo
Well the fact they released that statement a few days before launch saying they were going to release PERFORMANCE patches leads me to believe they knew and just buckled under shareholder pressure. Either way someone needs to pay the piper here. Who should get fired?
what is the program that you use to show the GPU stat overlay
Afterburner
I'll wait for another patch before buying.
wait till you get to the first planet near the town thats when all the stutters start
Always love to have your insights on pc gaming nowadays. Take care Joker !
Cheers bud.
I can sort of understand why there is no DLSS implementation(although there is no excuse not to be one) but no XeSS which is also independent of the GPU? Shame.
Yes, that car is weird on turning but dont worrie, it works and will be patched !
Yes, that clock ticks wrong but no worries, it works and will be patched !
Yes, that tv has issues on screen to see but hey it works ! it will be patched ! NO WORRIES !
Yes, that salad has moving objects in it but dont worrie its eatable and we will patch that out later !
Yes, that movie you watched ? Half of the time there was nuttin to see but hey it worked didnt it ? Gonna be patched though. Come back next week to see it in FULL !
So happy that the gaming industry doesnt have those issues at all.
* sarcasme left THIS dimension *
4:50 is that 24gb of VRAM beign utilized?
Allocated, yes. The game is using around 16GB.
@@jokerproduction Dude that's insane, I wonder if that is why the performance tanks in that part of the game as you mentioned.
@@caliptus85 Many games often allocate more vram simply because it is available and not necessarily because they use it
@@retrowrath9374 are you ok? Did Cyberpunk hurt you? Let me tell mom.
@@brunojr9 I guess so but still I get terrible frametime spikes when the memory beign alocated is close to my max vram available.
i have seen about 25 benchmark vids on this now and quite honestly i've seen maybe four of them having low gpu utilization , all others were fine.
and this is by far not the worst release as of late when it comes to optimization. by far. i do not understand why there is such a witch hunt for this game specifically
It might be because it's using the same game engine as fallen order, they've had half a decade to figure out how to utilize it and optimize it and they didn't. In fact in most videos the textures even look worse than fallen order. The fact they had a "fix" ready so soon after launch tells me they knew it was broken and still went ahead with launch date, instead of saying "give us a few days to work out some bugs" .
This is typical of EA Games. They consistently rush their game development process. After EA Games deploy their games there are always issues and people have to wait several weeks or months for the proper updates to actually enjoy the game as intended.
Usually with EA Games I wait a couple of months (2-6 months actually) before buying them. Just wish EA Games would get their act together and complete the games properly. Even if we have to wait a few more months.
Respawn chose to delay only 6 weeks, not EA. Respawn are to blame.
only the first few hours has been fixed
people saying the fps issues are on the first planet are kinda coping. the open world was horrendous and much worse in certain areas.
For me, is running very smoothly on my RTX 3080 in 4K, I have consistent 60 fps except for some area that goes down to 40, but they quickly rise again to 60 fps. I first bought this for PS5 and looks like crap! Graphics on PS5 are aweful, blurry and pixelated with this game, and on PC graphics look gorgeous with no fuzzy textures. I’m asking for a refund for the PS5 version and will keep playing on PC
mean its cool a 4090 plays it ok now but like thats great to know for nearly no one
Lmaoo I know right
I run it on a 9700K and 3090 and I can only imagine that it will run fine on more modest GPUs too, as long as you don't try to run 4K Epic.
Maybe they had some problems with the initial release and they had to deactivate some stuff (less threads, things like that). They found the issue and now we have a proper release.
0 to 4% cpu utilisation still... 12600k and 4090rtx
That intro.. LOL
Whats the meaning behind the 2 Different numbers seen on Vram? I thought the first one is vram allocated and second one was vram used? but over that there is also a vram used with a different number????????? 3 different vram stats??
On par with Fallen Order? This must be a your milage may vary cause no way. Fallen Order runs great for me. Survivor is still pretty bad. I have a 3700x and 4080 and still get like 30 fps in Kobohs main hub area.
RIP 16GB system RAM and VRAM :)
Except, it is next gen exclusive. No PS4 or XB1 version. Arguably makes this objectively worse.
So it's true that they use consumers as beta testers. How many times has this happened where the game is a broken mess yet a patch releases within a week?
Edit: Still crazy seeing a 4090 being completely utilized yet you're only hitting slightly above 60fps with no ray tracing.
Jedi FSRvor.
I don't think AMD would pay to make a dev not use rivals technologies.
Even the FSR implementation is 💩
Being so buggy at release, it think they just rushed it... a lot...
@@GraphiteSC it's a console port. Consoles don't have DLSS. As i said, the game was so poorly optimized for PCs at launch because it was a straight console conversion done in a hurry.
Even the UI is not good on the PC version... they did the BARE minimum to make it work on windows.
17 GB VRAM with RT off. Yikes
so now u have same fps how many amd users with the 7900xt with a 4090:) poor optimization idk patches can safe that worse sh1t they served
Game still runs like crap in the second world unless you’re in a small area.
I read this comment quickly and thought you mean it rubs like crap if you don’t live in a 1st world country and thus have good pc hardware.
Then I re-read it and was like “oh he literally means the second level/world” lol
can i run this pig with a 5800x at 5ghz and a 3080ti?
Would like to play either at 3840 x 2160 at 60FPS, or 3440 x 1440 at 120hz (happy with north of 90)
If anyone has hands on and would like to reply, i'd appreciate it.
I have a 5800x + 32 GB RAM and 3080 combo and the game still runs like ass at 1440p after the latest patch. Fps is all over the place... It's better than it was at launch but still not enjoyable because of all the fluctuations and hitching.
@@djburrondarize yeah, I was worried about that. Thanks for responding 👍
That’s an absolute no. 5900x + 4080 with 2560x1440p on medium settings sometimes dips to 20 fps on Koboh and it’s moon. Expect around 70-80 fps more or less on your setup.
@@Anikey_RUS yeah, it's not looking good.
Shame, the first game played ok after they patched it, and I loved the game.
Ya its not even 60fps 4k ultra RT with 4090 wtf lol
It looks good for a linear game but not that good..
NVIDIA Fine Vodka kicking in.
My 4070 with Frame generation is now getting more performance than a 7900xtx.
So sad for the sour wine 6950xt and 6800xt. Too bad ha ha ha ha.
God I'm so pleased right now.
I would hope so, it's generating more frames. The xtx is not.
This game is joke!
You shouldn't require a 4090 to play this
laughs in PS5
PS5 plays around 40-50 fps at best with stutters, and sub 720p resolution.
Who the fuck is laughing or are you that dumb?
Are we certain it's not just a slight downgrade to uplift FPS? Performance patches, especially on Console are mostly just reductions in visual fidelity.
It's not. The game isn't very GPU intensive. Before patch it just did not use your CPU properly. And there already was a workaround. You load into a game at say 720p with everything turned down to the lowest with ultra performance FSR and then while in-game change the settings to max at 1440p or 4k depending on what your system is capable of and just like that 99% GPU usage with 60+ fps. This worked for pretty much everyone before patch. The game looks just as good post-patch btw.
Also when it comes to GPU optimization, you always downgrade. You don't just magically make more frames out of thin air. You reduce settings in the background which is not visible to the eye. That's how optimization for every game works, you reduce the graphical fidelity but it's completely unnoticeable or there is something that is in background hurting your GPU and it is the dev's job to fix that without hurting the general graphical fidelity. Jedi Survivor does not need a graphical downgrade to run better anyway, the game just did not use the CPU properly. It still doesn't, but there is a significant improvement.
Yes, the PS5 absolutely has the horsepower to run it at 1440p60 without raytracing. The PC equivalent is the RX 6700 10GB, which has the exact same amount of compute units etc. And that card can definitely push 60 FPS with reduced settings.
The ps5 has rtx on in both modes
@@TeryonTheHuman ...Yes, and if they turned it off performance would be much better
Thanks for making these updates. I've been holding off on purchasing the game until it became stable on at least one platform. Glad to see PC is back in the game. I'll probably be playing this very soon now. Looks great!
It's fantastic. I'm running it flawlessly on 4K Epic settings (no RT) using an RTX 3090 and i7 9700K with 32 GB of RAM. Windows 10 Pro OS. On top of that I'm streaming it to my Shield using Sunshine and Moonlight and it's smooth as butter. Couldn't be happier. 😎
The game is awesome, better than the first one. I´m playing with a 3060 ti on 2K with fsr. Almost all the time I have 60 fps, but in some places It drows. The performance after the patch is better.
Why did they not see this problem before they launched?
Thanks for the updated video. I refused to play it until they at least fixed the fps.
Dips into the 40's (fps), on a $1600+ graphics card (the fastest out rn), WITHOUT ray tracing. 😠 Calls it "playable". Are you f*cking kidding me?
It doesn't even look that great, tbh. 🤨 Runs at 720p or below on PS5. 720p! Like PS3 games did, back in 2006! Lots of PS3 games run at 1080p. You know it says "8K" on the PS5 box, right? And "4k 120". How the hell did Sony even allow that? It tarnishes their platform...
Dips in the 50s are defiantly playable, I would expect mid 100s with a 4090 tho
barely over 60 fps on a freakin 4090 "playable" lol
for me rtx3060 ti after the patch my fps increased from 15-20 to 20-25
That's like a 25% improvement. Awesome! :D
@@vincevirtua its trash, get a refund on your hard earned money, this game will be 50% off in a month
Honestly still cant find the frames post patch guess i just gotta look harder
I still don't get it. I'm running same setting as you just on a 3440x1440p. However, I have to run AMD SUPER RES 2 on, set to QUALITY. Otherwise, it looks like a blurry mess without it. Kinda sucks as I see everyone else saying to turn it off. No way I could as it looks like absolute dog crap.
The game still looks like shit on PS5 even after the patch. The image still looks muddy, much like Dead Space Remake had when it launched. It is some bullshit delaying the game for weeks only for it to come out in this state, I could understand if the game isn't optimized for some obscure PC configurations, but they have no excuse to botch it on consoles, specially after saying that they went next gen only to take advantage of the hardware.
Tbh my performance is still absolutely awful and im on a 4080 with i7-12700k ...cant even hit 60 fps doesn't matter what resolution or settings i try.
Game is still broken, try running it with ray tracing disabled and see how lighting and textures look terrible in Epic settings. That was not the case before the patch. I have videos on my channel.
Sorry, but you are wrong. Get to semi-open world area. FPS crazily Drops! They have not fixed it yet!!! Im frustrated!
I have same cpu than you. You could OC it to get better performance. I have my on 5.5ghz. Add a lot of cpu power.
even as an AMD gpu owner. aliens would not surprise me at all
Didn’t they retrench their entire QA team?
FSR2 works great..
its not on ps4
for me only coruscant was fixed.. koboh is still the same ballpark fps
Hey man where is your Ryzen 9 7950x?
Over there at my other desk right behind me, rendering videos while I continue to game.
Now they have to fix the crashes on Jeddha (especially when RT is enabled). Thats still a big issue. But other than that it runs fine for the most part now. The game itself is great and I am having a lot of fun with it.
this patch didnt even fixed anything on my game i still have only 30-40 fps and a lot of drops into the 17 fps range and on fps drop is like 5 min longs
How do you get Playstation button prompts on PC?
I just plugged in my ps5 controller.
@@jokerproduction oh, maybe my Edge PS5 controller isn't recognized. thanks for reply.
Performance sucks & is far from performing like the previous game.
Jedi survivor and fallen order don't even look that much different and my 4090 runs fallen order 4k maxed out at the 144hz cap at all times. the 4090 is not even capable of doing that on this game which is should do easily 4k maxed out without RT.
Uh there is a huge difference in graphical fidelity between Fallen Order and Survivor. Fallen Order looks pretty washed out and a little old in comparison. Also idk why people are mentioning a 4090 or whatever. The game has CPU utlization problems. GPU wise is not very demanding. You can even get decent frames with a RTX 3050 on high settings. Problem was it was only using 50-70% GPU the entire time. That is why it is such a bad port. Other PC ports at least uses all your GPU. But Survivor is not very GPU intensive at all. Problem is on the CPU side.
Anyone with a Ryzen 5 3600? This patch hardly improved my performance at all on Koboh.
All the comments made me think that they fixed only Coruscant, so all top reviewers could say “AOk, the game is now fine”.
Keep up the content mate. Im having an issue that fsr disabled renders the game at a lower resolution. Have you had this?
I haven't had that one. Try running DDU and clean install video drivers.
what frames 5 to 10 lol
45 to 80..
Using a 4080 and this fixed nothing for me. Same 55ish frames and stuttering.
Don't use ray tracing or FSR.
@@jokerproduction I keep those off. I've had 100% gpu utilization since the day one patch. For me the problem is low cpu utilization(13700k) which this patch didn't address for me.
@@bodine1231 If you have 100% gpu usage then it is a GPU bottleneck and CPU is doing its job. Like as a PC gamer you should know this, it is basic stuff. You should enable FSR and you will get 60+ all the time. This patch fixes CPU usage not GPU related stuff. The problem for most people is that it was only using 50-70% on most gpus because CPU was not being used properly. That problem has been somewhat fixed in this patch.
13gen CPU and it would be much better.. if they implemented DLSS that would be even better :)
really nice to hear I was already starting to run the game fine after tutorial so now im expecting to be close to if not 144 fps when it was already 100+
9900k though bro.. I rock one still and even I know they're the FPS problem in 2023.
Not in this case.
@@jokerproduction Confirmed, running 4K Epic (no RT) on a 9700K and 3090 myself and it's smooth as butter.
I wasn't going to buy this anyway based on what I've played from the previous game, but It's good to see that the issue was simply the game's lack of polish.