Most people think the tighter you get the offset the better...but what you want to do is match your offset height as close as you can to you primary optic height. That way all you have to do to obtain sight picture is rotate the gun, if they are different heights you will have to rotate and also adjust your cheekweld for height
exactly what I'm trying to research here. I am going to be running a Wilson Defense one piece scope mount. They have a 1.70 or 1.75 high can choose from. Do we know what height the arisaka standard plate will cause a holosun 515cm to sit at? It says 1.5-1.8 which is a lot of variance.
I'd much rather run a top mounted red dot at 12 o'clock. I went with a side charging AR running that setup with a solid cheek riser and have absolutely no issue running the dot upright, or canted and acquiring sight picture of the dot in my left eye. You end up with your optic that has a height over center line of bore of about 2 and a half inches, and your dot is around 4.5" high. Running a BDC reticle, my LPVO is zeroed in accordance with the manual, but by red dot is zeroed at 66 yards. 16" barrel, 3kfps projectile velocity average and 4.5" over bore sets the point of impact spread somewhat around 2.5" low at 25 yards, 2" high at 175 yards, and 3" low at 300 yards. It's a very simple aiming solution and if you're the type who has NODS, you find that's easier too. Try it some time, and once you get used to it, you won't go back.
@@bobbywilliams8096 the only utility I've ever gotten from wish gear is trying new setups at the range to see how they feel before I invest any serious money into legit gear lmao. Give the top mounted dot a shot man. You can cant to the left if you're a right handed shooter, or just chin weld the rifle and aim with your right eye. Both systems work well. The only con I've found to the system is its a little tough to get a solid sight picture firing from the prone, but if I'm prone, I'm probably going to be using a scope anyway, so...
Dude thanks for this comparison, helped answer what I needed, the deal breaker for the Trex for me was when you showed how tight to the gun the standard height was, I have a hard time getting my face flat with the big ESS striker goggles I run over my glasses... Arisaka is going to be my choice as well.
Thanks for making this video, good sir. I was trying to decide between these two mounts and ended up going with the artisaka and I’m really glad I did.
virtually everytime somone does a deep analysis comparing Trex Arms products to others on the market, its so obvious that Trex Arms does little to no research when creating "life saving equipment" as they profess. I'm not saying they don't make some decent products, but its rare. Nice video.
Thanks for the review man, it was really helpful. Sucks the trex mount is lower, had no idea. Lucas said what makes the mount unique is its on the same focal plane but I guess not exactly.
Sold. That the Arisaka maintains blre axis was the very detail I have been looking for for days. Going to buy the Arisaka mount. I have a larger scope, Primary Arms GLX 6-24x, and the T Rex Arms is too close to my scope when mounted. I have no field of view at all. I noticed that in Lucas' video, his scopes are lower power , which is probably 1-8× power, which doesnt have the cone in front like higher magnification scopes, so the T Rex arms mount will work in that setup. But not mine, since I want my scope for long range shooting and cantid red dot for close encounters.
You're very good at presenting. Video isn't longer than it needs to be and touches on some good points. Thanks for the comparison; Arisaka is the way to go. Btw, T. Rex Arms doesn't offer left handed version of the RMR mount yet.
Thank you for the compliment. I was aiming for quick and to the point with enough close up comparison shots. Didn't know that there isn't a left hand trex mount, guess that's another con...
Third option, American defense makes one also. Fourth option(s) would be a 45 degree rail and then just mount your red dot normally. Jp enterprises makes a good one for about $50. Cheaper options can be found also from $20 - $40.
Yep, it's a bit tight, and can be difficult to reach the controls (with an fat eyepiece as is with the vortex razor) on the side of the holosun, but it works.
How much space does each mount take up on the rail. I want to put an offset mount on my CZ 600 and I only have like 2 1/2 slots on the rail available to try and squeeze a mount onto
I used a Vortex offset pic rail and threw on it my Aimpoint T2 mounted on a Scalarworks 1.57 and it turned out perfect for me. I do like Arisaka's stuff though, and have a couple of their scout light mounts.
Great video - I was really wondering what that Arisaka option was about after finding T.Red Arms. Can you recommend a good yet affordable LPVO AR mount alternative to the very expensive Scalarworks LEAP/08 30mm Scope QD Mount that T.Rex Arms recommends? That's just too pricey.
Agreed, scalarworks mounts are definitely expensive. There are quite a few mounts out there you could look into depending on your budget, more of the quality ones are between 180-250 depending on what brand you go with. Larue LT104 SPR (my favorite), Badger Ordinance Condition 1, , even the Aero Precision is a decent mount. The benefit of some of these scope mounts (definitely not the Aero Precision though) is they offer custom rings that have plates to mount red dots on them. Hope that helps, let me know if you need more info, happy to help.
Hey man, have you ever mounted 12oclock on that razor? I shoot suppressed and haven’t committed to a canted mount yet. Is the same cheekweld that important when moving between magnified and dot? I’m thinking the higher 1-93-2.26 elevation of the dot at 12oclock would be best with the 1.5 scope mount. Lemme know what you think!
I don't have any mounts that can mount it at 12 o'clock position. But from what I've seen a 12 o clock mount is higher than even a unity 2.26 mount which I would consider the limit, at least for me. I have a 1.93 mount that I like with a holosun 503cu and have a unity mount on thr way to test and decide which fits best. The same check weld on the canted mount helps you find the dot faster so you only need to remember one cheek weld and not two. Hope that helps
Also I seen in comments you changed to the larue LT742. Isnt having it higher than scope bore axis awkward? Ive seen many including 'professionals' talk about having scope and offset RDS on that same bore axis height make a damn sweet transition. And they use RDS to locate further out targets then flip to scope for positive ID and engagement.
Im still testing out the LT742 but so far it has been very nice for me at least. I also shoot under NV so having that higher red dot helps with passive aiming and the slight cant in the rifle feels comfortable as well when trying to get my NV tube behind the optic. Due to the design of the larue mount, having the red dot sitting at 12 o'clock isnt possible, so this is their option. the other options is i switch back to the regular rings and get a separate ring to mount the red dot to the scope body. But i do like that the larue option reduces the overall profile of the red dot on the scope mount, not like an enormous periscope sticking off the top of my riflescope. Since this optic is only a 1-6x i dont really find myself in a situation where i would to use the red dot to get a general bearing on a target before lowering my eye to my magnified optic. Ill give it a try next time im out and see how well the dot roughly lines up when the rifle is held normally. Just to see if its even a viable option. I just dig the larue for the QD ability to hot swap the scope to my ACOG or red dot if i want to switch things up every now and then. ;)
Good info , thanks Do you need to order the seal plate for the Arisaka raise plate ? It looks hollowed , I wasn’t sure if there was support for the battery
Good question. The raise plates don't come with any sealing plates, though the hollowed portions of the plate are where the screws fasten the plate to the arm. If you're using loctite on your threads when you assemble I would say it should still be waterproof and the battery will be fine. Thanks
Good content. How many picatanny slots does the Arisaka Offset take up ? I want to offset a dot but I want it to me on my upper receiver with my LPVO (towards the objective lenses). Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Does the T-Rex Arms mount have enough clearance for the Vortex as it was shown to have with the Arisaka mount twoards the end of your video? Awesome information, thank you.
It does, but the controls of my holosun are right up against the ocular body so it is difficult to adjust the brightness settings. Since the razer has larger turrets you may find they partially obstruct your view through the red dot too. Additionally, while it does fit, it makes it difficult to remove the spr mount if you try to do so.
@@danskhunder1 Awesome, thank you very for the reply! Much appreciated. I have a Vudu 1-8, and I'm trying to gauge if this will work effectively or not.
In the case of my set up, no. The arisaka offsets my holosun roughly right at the same eyeline as my larue 1.5 spr scope mount. So all I need to do is just rotate the stock under my cheek. The arisaka tall plate is better suited to those with say a 1.93 height mount.
Ok so what heights then are the Arisaka then? They advertise 1.5-1.8 and 1.9-2.2. Thats a lot of variance! I am using a Wilson Defense scope mount, yet to order deciding between a 1.70 or 1.75 high. Offset RDS is a Holosun 515CM. How do I know if my RDS will match those scope height sight pictures??? I agree the tall plate looks too tall. Does arisaka publish or has someone figured out the sight line height to bottom of plate at least?
I believe that variance is to accommodate for the different designs of optics, IE an RMR dot height off the smaller plate vs the holosun 515CM dot height off the small plate are different but can be assumed to be between that 1.5-1.8" height. I think if you pair the scope height with roughly the same height plate you shouldnt have too much of an issue, a perfect rotational axis is difficult with how many options are out there and different inherit dot heights. Hope that helps
Arisaka with standard plate is 1.9oz, with the tall plate is 2.2oz Couldn't tell you the trex weight as I've sold it. But they are roughly the same weight.Sorry
Great video! I was considering an offset mount and now im sure ill go with the arisaka mainly because im not sure whether ill run my rmr or my 503. Plus I’ll actually be paying less for an arisaka.
Awesome review! I have the same LaRue mount attached to my old NF NXS scope, i was trying to find the best 45° mount. If $ was no object I would do a T-2 dot, but would like to stay under $350; any recommendations? Thanks again for the info.
So I've actually sold both of these offset mounts and am currently testing the larue LT742. So far its great, it just replaces one of your scope ring halves. It sits about the same height as if you were mounting it at 12 above the scope but it's offset. If you are using nvg to shoot passively it also gives you that height off the gun to aim through it. Hopefully I'll be putting together a video on it soon. But so far it's the ticket. If you're looking for an option less than 350 you could always go with the larue lt742 (82$) and a holosun 407c or the 507c (shares the rmr footprint to work with the larue mount) the 407c is around 220$ Depends on how you feel about holosun. Alternatively, either of these mounts and a t2 holosun clone like the 503 series could fit the bill nicely. Hope that helps.
@@TheBiggmama no its for the rmr footprint only. I do believe that holosun is coming out with a closed emitter lkkenthe 509 that will fit the rmr footprint. Could be a possible upgrade later on
i thoght the trex has multiple spacers so u can make it as high as u want?my friend has one thats got 2 spacers so it up with his 193 unity for the atacr
They both fit however depending on the mount you choose and for what type of optic you use you may have problems with clearance from your objective lens. For example, with the holosun I have in the video, I can't reach the +/- buttons on the side of the body to increase or decrease brightness.
A 1.57 mount will be a bit better match to the trex on the riser plate. A 1.93 mount will definately have you rotating the gun then scrunching your head down to pick up the offset
If your scope mount is under 1.5”, the T-Rex height will probably work better. My scope is 1.278 with the lower Arisaka, and I just can’t turn the gun and shoot without raising my head. I’m swapping to a 1.54 mount, which I think will fit me better anyway. Arisaka is pretty clear about the intended scope heights. I guess I’m just saying to match the two at the start if you can.
Thanks for the input. The larue mount I have in this video is 1.5 which does fit better with the arisaka, at least for me. Good luck with the new mount
if your concern is purely durability, the Trex arms mount has only one set of screws (assuming you dont use the riser plate) and the rest is a solid body. Its two parts total, the mount and the clamp. The Arisaka is 4 parts, the clamp, the body and the riser and the plate. But assuming you user correct torque specs and loctite, they should both be fine. Hope that helps.
Unfortunately it will depend on your scope. In my case neither were too close to my scope body however the Arisaka can be moved outward more if it is too close. Hope that helps.
It should. The base of the mounts are pretty much the same. There's just a bit more material on the top side to elevate the scope to 1.93" you should be good to go.
@@danskhunder1 awesome thanks a lot! And great video btw, super informative without being over the top, made my decision to get the Arisaka super easy.
Have you encountered a visual field issue looking through your red dot with the Arisaka mount when having a rail light set up at about the "1:30/2 o'clock" position?
@@believethehype8936 Correct, at least to my recollection. Full transparency I have sold this mount and am in the process of reviewing another mount, but from what i can remember i had no issues with the arisaka at all. Apologies for the late reply.
@@danskhunder1 got it. Thank you! I have an Olight Odin Mini that I have ran very hard and decided to give it a home on a LPVO w offset red dot set up. The Odin Mini with its stock Mlok mount sits at about the 1-130 position and when I shoulder the rifle and can't to the left, I have that Odin Mini right in my view. Just wanted to know if that mount will position the red dot providing a view slightly above the light (without going to the higher riser). Or if I'll need to reposition the light to the 3o'clock position.
@@believethehype8936 Im not familiar with any of the Olight products, but a quick google search gives the impression that its a pretty beefy light, or at least a fairly high mount. I personally have a surefire m600DF that has a swivel mount that can put it really close to my BCM rail so i cant really give you an idea of whether or not that Olight will obstruct your view. But if repositioning the Olight is an option for you then you should be good to go regardless. hope that helps.
Very well done Sir, thanks. Question, why have Irons if you have an offset RDS? Seems redundant to me as the offset RDS is typically a backup to an LPVO/Scope or other top rail Sight, and with a properly mounted LPVO, the rear flip-up Iron is un-deployable without removing the optic.....but each to his own.
The irons are redundant, yes. I would consider ditching them if I had an enclosed emitter offset like the 509t. In my case the lvpo mount (Larue) is a qd return to zero mount that I can removed without the need of tools. So I can access my irons if I needed to. Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video
Thanks for the suggestion, Ive seen them but assumed they were primarily for getting a long range optic on target easier. Do you have one, and would you suggest it? Thanks!
@@danskhunder1 I actually have 2 and I'm running them with deltapoints. I prefer the LaRue setup because it helps keep my head up instead of having to get lower on the gun for a canted sight. Also I like not having to rotate my rifle to use canted sights. I think its the best setup for switching between your scope and backup reddot. LT137 in the LaRue catalog if you want to check it out
@@christiandruan Appreciate it, this is something i was definitely looking for and as i mentioned it seemed like it was meant for the long range scope user rather than an LVPO, but after looking at some photos behind the scope and how its canted the LTLT742 looks like itll fit the bill. Ordered one, hopefully it works out. Thanks.
One thing you failed to mention in the vid was how many slots each take up on the rail. Some take 3, some take 2, some take up the space of 2 but only have one lug. Difficult to plan rail space without knowing how much they take up respectively.
Thanks for the input. You can see in the video they are roughly the same width. The trex mount uses two bolts to mount while the arisaka only uses 1. That is why they line up with the pic rail differently.
@@johnleyva4619 yeah, i guess the laughs on me. it was taking so long to get here it started to dawn on me why they're able to produce it at that price. so I went ahead and ordered the real thing. the clone is almost exactly the same other than hardness. they're no longer available on Amazon. Arisaka's lawyers must have sent a cease and desist letter. i was going to keep it as a backup but I'd hate to use it and have the pic rail screwhead strip out. i might just toss it. live and learn.
I do not understand mounting your red dot BEHIND your optic. Can you? Yes. Should you? Nottt really. Parallax come into play MUCH MORE when optics are closer to your face and parallax affects you more shooting at closer targets as well (which you typically use your off set for) soooo you are getting worse parallax when it matters most. I get that you're likely running a 6 MOA red dot and aren't exactly taking precision shots but still, given a choice....Id choose it further out. It also allows you to see more in terms of FOV bc your focal point it further out. Lastly, it looks better in the front. =)
BTFO $250+ for the Valhalla ruck mount because.... It pivots. There are parts on my car that cost 1/100th that and do 100 times more. Sometimes the firearms folks....
Most people think the tighter you get the offset the better...but what you want to do is match your offset height as close as you can to you primary optic height. That way all you have to do to obtain sight picture is rotate the gun, if they are different heights you will have to rotate and also adjust your cheekweld for height
exactly what I'm trying to research here. I am going to be running a Wilson Defense one piece scope mount. They have a 1.70 or 1.75 high can choose from. Do we know what height the arisaka standard plate will cause a holosun 515cm to sit at? It says 1.5-1.8 which is a lot of variance.
I'd much rather run a top mounted red dot at 12 o'clock.
I went with a side charging AR running that setup with a solid cheek riser and have absolutely no issue running the dot upright, or canted and acquiring sight picture of the dot in my left eye.
You end up with your optic that has a height over center line of bore of about 2 and a half inches, and your dot is around 4.5" high.
Running a BDC reticle, my LPVO is zeroed in accordance with the manual, but by red dot is zeroed at 66 yards.
16" barrel, 3kfps projectile velocity average and 4.5" over bore sets the point of impact spread somewhat around 2.5" low at 25 yards, 2" high at 175 yards, and 3" low at 300 yards.
It's a very simple aiming solution and if you're the type who has NODS, you find that's easier too.
Try it some time, and once you get used to it, you won't go back.
@@BuckFoeJiden you bastard. Was just about to by an offset. Now I need to reconsider. Canting the rifle puts my dominant left eye at 12 over the lpvo
@@bobbywilliams8096 the only utility I've ever gotten from wish gear is trying new setups at the range to see how they feel before I invest any serious money into legit gear lmao.
Give the top mounted dot a shot man. You can cant to the left if you're a right handed shooter, or just chin weld the rifle and aim with your right eye. Both systems work well.
The only con I've found to the system is its a little tough to get a solid sight picture firing from the prone, but if I'm prone, I'm probably going to be using a scope anyway, so...
More people should conduct reviews and comparisons in this manner.
Dude thanks for this comparison, helped answer what I needed, the deal breaker for the Trex for me was when you showed how tight to the gun the standard height was, I have a hard time getting my face flat with the big ESS striker goggles I run over my glasses... Arisaka is going to be my choice as well.
Happy to help!
That was my problem as well. Wish I woulda found this video before I had to learn with my wallet open.
Thanks for making this video, good sir. I was trying to decide between these two mounts and ended up going with the artisaka and I’m really glad I did.
Exactly the video I needed. You articulate your thoughts very well without any unnecessary fluff. Thanks for the video!
Well done, thank you for the comparison.
Went with the Arisaka. Your informative video helped make the decision. Love the mount. Thanks mate.
Glad I could help!
This is exactly what I needed to hear and answered all my questions I had.
I bought the Trex mount and absolutely loved it! I don't know about this height thing but the Trex is perfect, a slight rotation and there is my dot!
Excellent and informative comparison...exactly what I needed.
Got your self a sub my dude. Great review and what i was looking for in terms of the Trex offset mount
Great video! Purchasing the arisaka as soon as my budget allows.
What a great video man, well done. Thanks.
Great comparison, definitely going to go with the arisaka in the future
Happy to help!
Thank you for the review. It exactly answered the questions I had.
Well this was super informative. Thanks so much, you brought up some really good points I hadn't considered.
Happy to help. Good luck with your decision moving forward.
This was a really great vid. Thanks bro 👍
virtually everytime somone does a deep analysis comparing Trex Arms products to others on the market, its so obvious that Trex Arms does little to no research when creating "life saving equipment" as they profess. I'm not saying they don't make some decent products, but its rare. Nice video.
This is the review I was looking for. TRex themselves told me about the Arisaka mount. Now to choose a red dot for my AR.
Glad you found this helpful!
Outstanding
Very clear explanation and the video was done well
Stay safe and vigilant
Well done video. Great comparison.
Awesome content. You just saved me from ordering two mounts. And more importantly the wait time! Thanks
You're very welcome! Hope you enjoy your choice.
Very informative video. Thank you!
Thanks for the review man, it was really helpful. Sucks the trex mount is lower, had no idea. Lucas said what makes the mount unique is its on the same focal plane but I guess not exactly.
Great video! I am going with the trex arms solely for the cost, but I really appreciate all the information you went over. :)
Happy to help with your purchase!
Well done. Very informative.
Good info! Thanks for comparing!
Very nice comparison. Thanks for posting it.
Glad it helped.
Great video, thank you!
Thanks for the Vid really answered all my questions
Glad it helped!
Great comparison. Thanks
Great video!
Sold. That the Arisaka maintains blre axis was the very detail I have been looking for for days. Going to buy the Arisaka mount. I have a larger scope, Primary Arms GLX 6-24x, and the T Rex Arms is too close to my scope when mounted. I have no field of view at all. I noticed that in Lucas' video, his scopes are lower power , which is probably 1-8× power, which doesnt have the cone in front like higher magnification scopes, so the T Rex arms mount will work in that setup. But not mine, since I want my scope for long range shooting and cantid red dot for close encounters.
You're very good at presenting. Video isn't longer than it needs to be and touches on some good points. Thanks for the comparison; Arisaka is the way to go. Btw, T. Rex Arms doesn't offer left handed version of the RMR mount yet.
Thank you for the compliment. I was aiming for quick and to the point with enough close up comparison shots. Didn't know that there isn't a left hand trex mount, guess that's another con...
fantastic video thank you
Third option, American defense makes one also. Fourth option(s) would be a 45 degree rail and then just mount your red dot normally. Jp enterprises makes a good one for about $50. Cheaper options can be found also from $20 - $40.
Great video! Thank you
Good to know that you can still fit your larue spr mount in front of a rear sight and an arisaka offset!
Yep, it's a bit tight, and can be difficult to reach the controls (with an fat eyepiece as is with the vortex razor) on the side of the holosun, but it works.
Very very good video man.
How much space does each mount take up on the rail. I want to put an offset mount on my CZ 600 and I only have like 2 1/2 slots on the rail available to try and squeeze a mount onto
I used a Vortex offset pic rail and threw on it my Aimpoint T2 mounted on a Scalarworks 1.57 and it turned out perfect for me. I do like Arisaka's stuff though, and have a couple of their scout light mounts.
i recently just bought a SE 1x6, i also have a different offset rail that sits really close to where it touches the rings.. How is the vortex rail?
thanks for the video and info
Thanks! I really wanted a higher offset mount! Arisaka 1.93 it is!
Thanks for this. You are a king 🤴
Glad I could help :)
Great vid thanks !
This is excellent info.
Well done!
Nice thanks questions to follow
Great job.
Well done.
Nice video. Thanks
Just the video I was looking for! 😎👍Which one pulls the optic closer in?
Very helpful
Thanks buddy
VERY GOOOOOD!!!! thank you!
No problem :)
It looks like the T rex mount sits lower on the rail portion (like under a forward offset) than the Arisaka? What do you think? Good review man. 👍🏼
Well done. This video is extremely underrated
excellent
Thank you....
Brilliant
Great video - I was really wondering what that Arisaka option was about after finding T.Red Arms. Can you recommend a good yet affordable LPVO AR mount alternative to the very expensive Scalarworks LEAP/08 30mm Scope QD Mount that T.Rex Arms recommends? That's just too pricey.
Agreed, scalarworks mounts are definitely expensive. There are quite a few mounts out there you could look into depending on your budget, more of the quality ones are between 180-250 depending on what brand you go with. Larue LT104 SPR (my favorite), Badger Ordinance Condition 1, , even the Aero Precision is a decent mount. The benefit of some of these scope mounts (definitely not the Aero Precision though) is they offer custom rings that have plates to mount red dots on them. Hope that helps, let me know if you need more info, happy to help.
Yea good job with this, learned a lot
Bravo 👏
Thank you very much for that in depth comparison. What backup iron was that in the video?
Glad you enjoyed it. The back up iron sights are Griffin armament m2 sights.
Hey man, have you ever mounted 12oclock on that razor? I shoot suppressed and haven’t committed to a canted mount yet. Is the same cheekweld that important when moving between magnified and dot? I’m thinking the higher 1-93-2.26 elevation of the dot at 12oclock would be best with the 1.5 scope mount. Lemme know what you think!
I don't have any mounts that can mount it at 12 o'clock position. But from what I've seen a 12 o clock mount is higher than even a unity 2.26 mount which I would consider the limit, at least for me. I have a 1.93 mount that I like with a holosun 503cu and have a unity mount on thr way to test and decide which fits best.
The same check weld on the canted mount helps you find the dot faster so you only need to remember one cheek weld and not two.
Hope that helps
You sold me on the arisaka
Also I seen in comments you changed to the larue LT742. Isnt having it higher than scope bore axis awkward? Ive seen many including 'professionals' talk about having scope and offset RDS on that same bore axis height make a damn sweet transition. And they use RDS to locate further out targets then flip to scope for positive ID and engagement.
Im still testing out the LT742 but so far it has been very nice for me at least. I also shoot under NV so having that higher red dot helps with passive aiming and the slight cant in the rifle feels comfortable as well when trying to get my NV tube behind the optic.
Due to the design of the larue mount, having the red dot sitting at 12 o'clock isnt possible, so this is their option. the other options is i switch back to the regular rings and get a separate ring to mount the red dot to the scope body. But i do like that the larue option reduces the overall profile of the red dot on the scope mount, not like an enormous periscope sticking off the top of my riflescope.
Since this optic is only a 1-6x i dont really find myself in a situation where i would to use the red dot to get a general bearing on a target before lowering my eye to my magnified optic. Ill give it a try next time im out and see how well the dot roughly lines up when the rifle is held normally. Just to see if its even a viable option.
I just dig the larue for the QD ability to hot swap the scope to my ACOG or red dot if i want to switch things up every now and then. ;)
Good info , thanks
Do you need to order the seal plate for the Arisaka raise plate ?
It looks hollowed , I wasn’t sure if there was support for the battery
Good question. The raise plates don't come with any sealing plates, though the hollowed portions of the plate are where the screws fasten the plate to the arm. If you're using loctite on your threads when you assemble I would say it should still be waterproof and the battery will be fine.
Thanks
Good content. How many picatanny slots does the Arisaka Offset take up ? I want to offset a dot but I want it to me on my upper receiver with my LPVO (towards the objective lenses). Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks.
So the arisaka has a single bolt and two lugs that sit in between the pic slots. So it's total footprint is like 3.5 pic slots
Does the T-Rex Arms mount have enough clearance for the Vortex as it was shown to have with the Arisaka mount twoards the end of your video? Awesome information, thank you.
It does, but the controls of my holosun are right up against the ocular body so it is difficult to adjust the brightness settings. Since the razer has larger turrets you may find they partially obstruct your view through the red dot too. Additionally, while it does fit, it makes it difficult to remove the spr mount if you try to do so.
@@danskhunder1 Awesome, thank you very for the reply! Much appreciated. I have a Vudu 1-8, and I'm trying to gauge if this will work effectively or not.
Do you have to change your cheek-weld/eye height with standard height LPVOs, when’s switching between the lpvo and mrds?
In the case of my set up, no. The arisaka offsets my holosun roughly right at the same eyeline as my larue 1.5 spr scope mount. So all I need to do is just rotate the stock under my cheek.
The arisaka tall plate is better suited to those with say a 1.93 height mount.
Ok so what heights then are the Arisaka then? They advertise 1.5-1.8 and 1.9-2.2. Thats a lot of variance! I am using a Wilson Defense scope mount, yet to order deciding between a 1.70 or 1.75 high. Offset RDS is a Holosun 515CM. How do I know if my RDS will match those scope height sight pictures??? I agree the tall plate looks too tall. Does arisaka publish or has someone figured out the sight line height to bottom of plate at least?
I believe that variance is to accommodate for the different designs of optics, IE an RMR dot height off the smaller plate vs the holosun 515CM dot height off the small plate are different but can be assumed to be between that 1.5-1.8" height. I think if you pair the scope height with roughly the same height plate you shouldnt have too much of an issue, a perfect rotational axis is difficult with how many options are out there and different inherit dot heights. Hope that helps
Great review. Who makes that foldable rear sight? Thanks
Thank you. The sights are Griffin armament m2 sights
Jake from trex arms confirmed with me, that their offset mount IS concentric with the bore!!!!
I purchased the Arisaka for an canted Trijicon RMR. I think the Arisaka looks better and is better designed.
Could we please get the weight of each mount and the different components associated with each. Ty
Arisaka with standard plate is 1.9oz, with the tall plate is 2.2oz
Couldn't tell you the trex weight as I've sold it. But they are roughly the same weight.Sorry
Great video! I was considering an offset mount and now im sure ill go with the arisaka mainly because im not sure whether ill run my rmr or my 503. Plus I’ll actually be paying less for an arisaka.
Glad the video helped!
Awesome review! I have the same LaRue mount attached to my old NF NXS scope, i was trying to find the best 45° mount. If $ was no object I would do a T-2 dot, but would like to stay under $350; any recommendations? Thanks again for the info.
So I've actually sold both of these offset mounts and am currently testing the larue LT742. So far its great, it just replaces one of your scope ring halves. It sits about the same height as if you were mounting it at 12 above the scope but it's offset. If you are using nvg to shoot passively it also gives you that height off the gun to aim through it. Hopefully I'll be putting together a video on it soon. But so far it's the ticket. If you're looking for an option less than 350 you could always go with the larue lt742 (82$) and a holosun 407c or the 507c (shares the rmr footprint to work with the larue mount) the 407c is around 220$
Depends on how you feel about holosun. Alternatively, either of these mounts and a t2 holosun clone like the 503 series could fit the bill nicely.
Hope that helps.
Order placed with LaRue! Thank you once again for your research!
Is there a way to mount the 503 to the LaRue LT742?
@@TheBiggmama no its for the rmr footprint only. I do believe that holosun is coming out with a closed emitter lkkenthe 509 that will fit the rmr footprint. Could be a possible upgrade later on
Have you ran the Arisaka with a Romeo 5 and Magpul offset sights? Does the Red Dot obstruct the offset iron sights?
Sorry, unfortunately I have not.
So you bought both height plates, and the lower plate of the Arisaka is higher than the trex with the riser?
Yep.
i thoght the trex has multiple spacers so u can make it as high as u want?my friend has one thats got 2 spacers so it up with his 193 unity for the atacr
Interesting, mine only came with one.
Will either of these mounts fit under the front section of that LaRue LT104?
They both fit however depending on the mount you choose and for what type of optic you use you may have problems with clearance from your objective lens. For example, with the holosun I have in the video, I can't reach the +/- buttons on the side of the body to increase or decrease brightness.
I just bought the T. rex mount and then found this video. If I use the riser plate, should I buy a 1.57 scope mount and not a 1.93?
A 1.57 mount will be a bit better match to the trex on the riser plate. A 1.93 mount will definately have you rotating the gun then scrunching your head down to pick up the offset
If your scope mount is under 1.5”, the T-Rex height will probably work better. My scope is 1.278 with the lower Arisaka, and I just can’t turn the gun and shoot without raising my head. I’m swapping to a 1.54 mount, which I think will fit me better anyway. Arisaka is pretty clear about the intended scope heights. I guess I’m just saying to match the two at the start if you can.
Thanks for the input. The larue mount I have in this video is 1.5 which does fit better with the arisaka, at least for me. Good luck with the new mount
@danskhunder which one seems more durable too you? The trex has two rail screws and is a one piece body but arisaka looks thicker. Thanks
if your concern is purely durability, the Trex arms mount has only one set of screws (assuming you dont use the riser plate) and the rest is a solid body. Its two parts total, the mount and the clamp. The Arisaka is 4 parts, the clamp, the body and the riser and the plate. But assuming you user correct torque specs and loctite, they should both be fine.
Hope that helps.
@@danskhunder1 much appreciated sir
Which one doesn’t get to close to Scope adjustment trex or Arisaka?
Unfortunately it will depend on your scope. In my case neither were too close to my scope body however the Arisaka can be moved outward more if it is too close. Hope that helps.
Using the same Larue mount but 1.93, wondering if the Arisaka mount would fit under the front of the Larue mount?
It should. The base of the mounts are pretty much the same. There's just a bit more material on the top side to elevate the scope to 1.93" you should be good to go.
@@danskhunder1 awesome thanks a lot! And great video btw, super informative without being over the top, made my decision to get the Arisaka super easy.
@@jordonmcwilliams9006 happy to help!
Have you encountered a visual field issue looking through your red dot with the Arisaka mount when having a rail light set up at about the "1:30/2 o'clock" position?
I havent, nope.
@@danskhunder1 with the Arisaka Standard height mount?
@@believethehype8936 Correct, at least to my recollection. Full transparency I have sold this mount and am in the process of reviewing another mount, but from what i can remember i had no issues with the arisaka at all.
Apologies for the late reply.
@@danskhunder1 got it. Thank you! I have an Olight Odin Mini that I have ran very hard and decided to give it a home on a LPVO w offset red dot set up. The Odin Mini with its stock Mlok mount sits at about the 1-130 position and when I shoulder the rifle and can't to the left, I have that Odin Mini right in my view. Just wanted to know if that mount will position the red dot providing a view slightly above the light (without going to the higher riser). Or if I'll need to reposition the light to the 3o'clock position.
@@believethehype8936 Im not familiar with any of the Olight products, but a quick google search gives the impression that its a pretty beefy light, or at least a fairly high mount. I personally have a surefire m600DF that has a swivel mount that can put it really close to my BCM rail so i cant really give you an idea of whether or not that Olight will obstruct your view. But if repositioning the Olight is an option for you then you should be good to go regardless. hope that helps.
I can do 100 yard shots no problem switching to my 1x with my Valhalla mount 🤙🏼
Very well done Sir, thanks. Question, why have Irons if you have an offset RDS? Seems redundant to me as the offset RDS is typically a backup to an LPVO/Scope or other top rail Sight, and with a properly mounted LPVO, the rear flip-up Iron is un-deployable without removing the optic.....but each to his own.
The irons are redundant, yes. I would consider ditching them if I had an enclosed emitter offset like the 509t.
In my case the lvpo mount (Larue) is a qd return to zero mount that I can removed without the need of tools. So I can access my irons if I needed to.
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video
@@danskhunder1 Ya, if you lose your primary optic, and the backup RDS, I'm thinking having Irons (or not) will be the least of your worries.
I prefer the T-Rex Arms mount. The cant is much more comfortable to me
who/what iron is that
Griffin armament m2 iron sights
LaRue makes a red dot mount that replaces one of the scope rings
Thanks for the suggestion, Ive seen them but assumed they were primarily for getting a long range optic on target easier. Do you have one, and would you suggest it? Thanks!
@@danskhunder1 I actually have 2 and I'm running them with deltapoints. I prefer the LaRue setup because it helps keep my head up instead of having to get lower on the gun for a canted sight. Also I like not having to rotate my rifle to use canted sights. I think its the best setup for switching between your scope and backup reddot. LT137 in the LaRue catalog if you want to check it out
@@christiandruan Appreciate it, this is something i was definitely looking for and as i mentioned it seemed like it was meant for the long range scope user rather than an LVPO, but after looking at some photos behind the scope and how its canted the LTLT742 looks like itll fit the bill. Ordered one, hopefully it works out. Thanks.
@@danskhunder1 I hope you like the setup as much as me, enjoy man!
One thing you failed to mention in the vid was how many slots each take up on the rail. Some take 3, some take 2, some take up the space of 2 but only have one lug. Difficult to plan rail space without knowing how much they take up respectively.
Thanks for the input. You can see in the video they are roughly the same width. The trex mount uses two bolts to mount while the arisaka only uses 1. That is why they line up with the pic rail differently.
The Con is being left handed, not the mount. LOLOL
Just bought the Arisaka clone for half the price on Amazon.
Very soft aluminum. Great for flat range but not suitable for duty
@@johnleyva4619 yeah, i guess the laughs on me. it was taking so long to get here it started to dawn on me why they're able to produce it at that price. so I went ahead and ordered the real thing. the clone is almost exactly the same other than hardness. they're no longer available on Amazon. Arisaka's lawyers must have sent a cease and desist letter. i was going to keep it as a backup but I'd hate to use it and have the pic rail screwhead strip out. i might just toss it. live and learn.
I do not understand mounting your red dot BEHIND your optic. Can you? Yes. Should you? Nottt really.
Parallax come into play MUCH MORE when optics are closer to your face and parallax affects you more shooting at closer targets as well (which you typically use your off set for) soooo you are getting worse parallax when it matters most.
I get that you're likely running a 6 MOA red dot and aren't exactly taking precision shots but still, given a choice....Id choose it further out. It also allows you to see more in terms of FOV bc your focal point it further out.
Lastly, it looks better in the front. =)
BTFO $250+ for the Valhalla ruck mount because.... It pivots. There are parts on my car that cost 1/100th that and do 100 times more. Sometimes the firearms folks....
I'm leaving this comment here. I'll be back for it later.
Forget t.rex