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There are a couple of things I want to hint on after playing the game for a long time on hardest / hilliest / lowest density modes without any mods and using no aircraft (as they are ridiculously overpowered). The video covers a lot of great tricks and tips, but I feel there are some things that were overlooked or actually not done "corrrectly": 1. Investment into roads / tracks are very cheap compared to running cost. So almost always it makes sense to build proper infrastructure. Also for depots, trucks /trains should be full asap, no long way to the loading station. This is even the case if you increase the default maintenance and track investment costs to the max. 2. Always build as straight lines as possible, even if there is additional investment attached. In almost no case you should use the pre-built roads. The revenue model works "as the crow flies", so every detour means less arrivals per year = less money, while same fixed running costs. It almost always pays off unless very hilly terrain 3. To further optimise, it indeed makes sense to build the stations as far away from each other as possible, even if at later stage you need to rebuild. Increases your revenue and with higher average truck speed also the efficiency. 4. Use only one platform to save investment and running costs on truck stations 5. Do not build extend the loading platforms for primary industries in the beginning; at least for trucks. They always produce much more than you can initially transport anyways and your trucks are wasting time in them. Different for secondary industries where you might need more storage space, but ideally you just have frequent truck arrivals with point 6. in mind. 6. A very essential optimisation is missing in the video. If an industry requires 2x input for 1x output, reflect that in your line management to always have 100% full trucks. Do A-B-A-B-C instead of A-B-C. 7. NO HILLS ON TRAINS. At least in the beginning. You must at all means maximise your avg speed on trains to keep revenue occuring as frequently as possible. Just reducing your avg speed by 10% will also reduce your revenue by 10% and thus taking a big hit on your margin. Very ideal scenario: A long, both loaded train line with one set of cars with both stations set on a slight hill and a valley in between so they can accelerate for the first minute to max speed by going down and then reducing speed as they approach their destination. Even though tunnels and terrain alignments are expensive; if they avoid a much longer detour, slow curves or hilly pieces which affect the trains speed, they are almost always worth it. In the beginning rather look for flat stretches only. 8. No short routes on trains. As mentioned above, trains should be quite long (As rule of thumb: 1850 min. 120m; 1900 min. 200m, 1950 min. 320m), but they need lots of time to accelerate, minimising avg speed, minimising your revenues. If your train is on max speed for only 50% of the route or does not even reach it, you do not have an efficient line. 9. NEVER ever have a train run empty. I mean not even a single car; if your train is not 100% full, you must optimise better. Always look out for goods types that can be used on your one-coach-type trains in both (or even more) directions. 11. Stop using mixed trains. One coach type only; this makes it a lot more efficient to achieve 100% utilisation and also manage the lines better. 12. Take very close attention to weight, running costs and length in comparison to the capacity a train brings and attach the right power to it. Its all about finding the balance of high avg speed vs. high capacity with the guardrails mentioned. 13. Be rigorous about finances. The company value is your indication if you are doing well. If it continues to go down, you most likely are doomed, even if your lines operationally make money. Keep a close eye on your financial statements and the line overview. Kill what does not have at least a 50% margin; trucks / feeders may be excused if for the greater need. I only wanted to add point 6 in the beginning, but now ended up with this essay, sorry about that. There is tons of other efficiency tricks (especially on trains, using main lines / hubs / 10+ lines on the same track) where I think the implementation can be enhanced much further, maybe I will just do an intro on this at some point with a video. I am not too sure if this game is often played by players in such a "hardcore commercial" way, but if there is interest, why not.
Thanks for that, definately something to ponder in addition to the video. I've seen other tuturials with different strategies, and I think the beauty of this game is that it has different ways to make those lines profitable, or overall a net-gain. Also I'm not going to say this to spite you, but you really should make your own video. Heck, use free AI voice to easen the burden of vocal recording. This is because you seem to be also very knowledgeble and we need all the help we can get. Cheers mates, Godbless
I always go straight to 30 vehicles on the first cargo line, use the rest of my money to pay down loans. Sit and wait for $900,000 to build a second line with 30 road vehicles. After my 5th 30 vehicle line, I have my remaining $1 million paid off. By 1857, I have 16 cargo lines with 30 road vehicles each and $28 to $32 million balance. It is quite easy to get started and blow up your balance no matter what your difficulty settings are. When it comes to trains, be careful or it will suck you dry of that $28 to $32 million very quickly.
Been playing since the first Transport Fever came out. I found your channel after looking up some tips and tricks to refine my game play a bit. Definately learned a few things from your channel. As a long term player, I learned alot by learning how not to do things. Transport Fever 2 feels alot more balanced and refined than Transport Fever did but the difference in the economy between the two games is huge. Transport Fever 2 seems to have much better performance and seems to handle alot more of a load before taxing your CPU.
So, Hushey decided to become a professor of Transport Fever 2. The audacity to give us an one hour lecture on cargo transportation in the game. What a lad! 😂😊
So mechanism side note: Placing depots further away actually causes the transfer rate to the depot to change, a depot right next to an industry will fill quicker than one on the edge of the catchment... Effectively speaking this doesn't matter for most cases since most people don't "min max" trucking routes in the early game anyway so you'll probably not be aiming for truck frequency to be high enough to hit the profit limit. See below. As for local businesses, while we could go into detail about how frequency and throughput are factors that determine how much they're willing to pay for you to transport their goods, the end result basically is that there's a "profit ceiling" for shipping that is majorly effected by service frequency, you want to maximize profits by having enough trains/trucks on the line to maximize your profit without hitting the limit where you're not longer filling up your vehicles. You get paid more to ship things far away, but you're also paying more on maintenance for the vehicles, the fact is when factoring maintenance alone the shorter the distance the more profitable the line, you're also looking at a lot of emergent factors, such as traffic issues, that are lessened by not "spaghettifying" your routes to maximize distance. Having shorter trips that can focus on higher frequency and better speeds is the real money maker. The fact is frequency profit caps are at their peak when the depot is as close as possible to the source of goods being shipped (delivering doesn't matter as it is instant, but you only really use this when placing in town truck stops). Ultimately for both major cases it's better to focus on industries that are close together, and to put the cargo terminals as close as possible to the industry to maximize the speed at which the industry can deliver the goods to the cargo terminal thus allowing you to maximize your pick up frequency. Also, as a station building tip, terminal stations are GREAT for making the "rural platform" stations that don't have proper station buildings, you just build the terminal near the road side you're going to connect to then delete the station building itself and add some steps to connect to the road (make sure you leave enough space for them to fit). I always feel that this _looks_ better for cargo stations next to industries in the middle of nowhere.
I don't think local is the way to go By going long routes you not only make more money. You have a much longer turn around time so trains will almost Always be full/half full depending on industry. Unless you are playing on extreme hills you can overload your trains, two minutes of acceleration doesn't matter if the drive is 10 minutes long (will still spend 7 minutes on maximum speed) but it does matter if the entire route is under 1 minute And engine Power is what defines Most of the locomotive cost. Not to mention a few very long trains are less disruptive and need less infrastructure than many small trains.
@@meki___6881 I didn't say local, I said shortening the routes, my comment was in response to his tip about putting depots far away from the industry to make them closer to the destination. I was pointing out that there's actually a benefit to putting the depot closer to the industry to pick up cargo... but the benefit is ultimately going to go unused unless you're "perfectly" efficient with your frequency so moving the station to make the travel time shorter is actually better for a lot of factors. It IS a good benefit to connect industries that are closer together if you are dead heading, which is very common in the early game... when profitability is actually important, especially with trucks and your initial train routes.
@@SherrifOfNottingham for early game and wen you have auto Closing industry it's indeed better with shorter connections. But I tend to space them out as soon the cash flow is Stable enough to support a long range line with pretty much no profit for a while. But those routes tend to generate more Income than the trains on it are worth once they have equalized
People might be getting confused because these features are behind another menu or sometimes 2 before it Getting all vehicles requires you to edit the map settings before you load a game with Y on Xbox, or the PS equivalent, then you have to go to the "Cheats" tab on map settings and then find the On/Off for Enable All Vehicles Even then, I've personally found that trying to change the game settings in a game that has already been started is very finicky. Sometimes the changes will apply, sometimes they won't. Tapping the stick once will pause the time You just have to hold the right joystick on your controller to change the speed to normal, fast, and super fast I've only figured this stuff out by messing with all the buttons and menus. Advanced features aren't super well explained and map settings straight isn't explained at all
Actually 75% of the trains drive on the left in the world, including France! [the other way round to cars etc.] I know some have both sides signalled, but things get messed up quickly if you do alternate which track you use @33:00.
Hey, could you do a series with normal gameplay? I would love to see how you manage your normal game, how you develop your cities and connections ❤ It would be great, i Wonder how you manage roads between cities, traffics and passenger transport. That would be great 🎉
WOW! ...again WOW! TY! 👍 ...you`ve a heavy accent, speak like a machine gun...but, your pronunciation is very clear and you`ve talent to explain (which many people think they have, but havent) Greets from Vienna Pat 55y
@@Hushey Swell, I never been unfortunatly in a native speaking english country! ...and I enjoyed your style! 😉 Its a really heavy game at the beginning, coz, there`s no turtorial...makes it really heavy! ...been surprised of your respending! ...shows a person of character! Why I do say so? ...coz lots of influencer begging for comments, but never reads them.... C-ya! Stay as you are!
A couple of years ago I discovered that I could have one central distribution hub in the center of the map, radially built with 8 separate lines. It takes a bit to get them placed so they all highlight each other, but all you need then is to run lines to all sides and corners of the map (preferably with a town at each end) and it all works itself out just like your method.
I'm a bit more then 100 hours into the game and seeing this I realised I'm totally not doing this in any save I played. 😂 Now I already play on 1/4 speed, because time is way too fast otherwise, but I always try to make money with oil/fuel and stone/grain train lines, filled both ways. I really need to get into the central hub mindset. Have a new game running on hard in 1865 with 56M in the bank so I wasn't doing too bad, might aswell try the central hub build.
At 29:40 you forgot that you don't need to make two separate switches. you can drag it across to the other track, click on the switch, and set it to "double-slip".
I tried to build one of these hubs using your instructions. I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong but I find I cannot tell the trains to use any line to load or unload. It seems sooner or later two or more trains will want to use the same unload stop even if there are free ones and then just hold up the line causing a traffic jam. I have to specifically assign just a single unload and divide the trains evenly between all the stops at the hub otherwise I get a traffic pile up.
This would be a real-world model: Hub & Spoke, in cargo train network, and this model can be used in passenger or cargo train/plane/ship transportation. Collect the surrounding resources/goods and using the main line to transport the goods and it can be transported both way with cargo, without any empty.
Thanks for the video Hushey, i watched the 8min version you had and got confused this cleared alot of things up but i still have a couple questions im hoping you have the time to answer. I understand the whole DH SY feeding everything into it. 1. I understand alternate platforms for trains purely unloading does this also work with loading trains ( and trucks at depots) does the game automatically move the goods when the train/truck come in and choose a platform. 2. On your mixed trains do you just leave the Load goods at 100% and what ever it picks up it picks up? 3. Similar to Q2 trucks delivering to city do you assign it just to say tools and have a line for each good? or do you just have the 1 line and use the all cargo trucks? 4. Im a little confused about delivering goods to other towns. Do you always just use trucks from the nearest DH or SY no matter the distance? Sorry if you already explained some of these questions and im just a bit slow on the pick up. Cheers
Hi nuknuk, 1 Yes 2 Yes 3 Several lines dropping off in each city so goods are shared evenly not just to one place, with all goods capacity so it can take whatever. 4 After capitol has every good maxed out, a train can run back to SY, NY etc and then dispatch from there Hope this helps :)
As a console player, I can confirm we have the option to use all vehicles. We have most of the vanilla game settings, but accessing them can be a bit convoluted. That basically goes for most features in the game, but I still love it anyways :)
Is there a facility in TF2 where we can save the design we have made, so we can paste it straight away, without having to redraw it from scratch? for example the design of a train station
on my game play, because there are lots of industry around the center hub, there is a lot of trains coming in and out, so the setion where the train switch going in and out from or to main line keep clogging up
@@Hushey Is just too many train going in and out, so I use a bit different method. The complete raw material dont need to go to the depot, just go stright to the factory, the second grade material such as plank, refined oil, steel and plastic can go to first depot and also all complete product as well, but do not use that depot for tansporting goods to city, use road to link up to another deport that is just transport to city. I use 1 deport for 5-6 city, so I also did that with 8 platform, for first 6 is for city cargo, the last 2 is to transport goods from North to South. What I also did as an optional extra is make another 2-4 platform depot on the other side of the first depot, link it to the first depot, and use it to transport second grade material to other depot on the map
@dorlagon2420 i understand. This video is now slightly outdated too because new ideas are always rolling out improving the meta. Its much better now. Try segregating NY/SY-DH trains and shunting trains. Long ass platforms (about 860m) for NY/SY-DH trains and like 60m for shunters. Less, longer, trains are better for NY/SY-NH
What´s a "guardrail", i read a comment below, no i can imagine, i´m fine. I swoosched through the tutorial like a, well, it was pretty straight forward. Now more reading about the game and looking up videos about it. Is that trying to avoid playing the game? Why did i buy it then. No it´s just that the allure of playing games have become a bit stale at this point, tomorrow i´ll be 58, happy birthday to me. And thanks for the show Hushey. 🙂
Hushey - Love your videos. Very informative . What are your favorite map seeds? Do you know if mod loading order matters? What are you ALWAYS load mods? - Im sure there are tons Have you ever setup a TRUCKING Distribution Center? Thank you for all your videos!
Hi glad you like them! I just play random seeds, best unique experiences so its never the same. mod load does matter, in certain context but most of the time no. only if it was a mod that requires another mod to run, so you'd load that one first in the order. here's a link to every mod i have installed: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3198992997 Yes in some regards, the distribution hub you share the goods round the city with trucks but on tiny maps this can also be adapted to carry to other cities if you wanted though this isnt the meta. Thanks for watching!
I have an issue with my trucks, I usually like to leave them with the full cargo option and they sart to queue and block the whole trucks stop, even though I have It like upgraded to the bigger one. Or there are a lot of trucks and cause a traffic jam
make a bigger/ better road system to input the trucks in to your distribution hub. This is a common issue. for example have a look at GTA V's port in the south of the map- that sort of setup. Traffic jams are easy to fix with A) lane management (i have a video on this, its maintaining the correct amount of lanes for tasks) and B) making the best public transport (just copy real life cities buses)
So for the 1850's do you do a industry near city - city - other city - industry near other city train line or like a industry to city and to another industry along the way back? Like surely if you have industries near cities and connect them up then there's no deadheading at all, so maximum profits right?
Great video, thanks for putting out new videos on this game still in '24! So I do have a question, why do you have to wait until 1925 specifically to start with a cargo hub? What do you look for in your game that might suggest setting one up earlier or later is worth doing? I tend to double up early steam locomotives to get longer trains, is it just train length that you look at, or is it something else? I tend to focus on maximizing numbers on a single line at a time, bc I find that with some planning and enough volume, you can turn a profit on even a 50% deadhead truck line on very hard mode, as long as your line is straight enough and you throw enough trucks at it to overcome the infra costs. But that also means I have a ton of "extra" product to populate a hub with earlier than most might. Should I try for an earlier date because of that?
Hi Nick, it really is just a number target for newer players but you can literally day one do hubs if you want (but the trains are going to be terrible haha)
Cities demand 6 cargo instead of 2 👍I turn it on about 1900-1950 depending on how tryhard i played with hubs. Always play on 1/4 speed or youll still be on the basics in the 3000s
Hi, Several months ago I've watched a youtube video of a gameplay. I really liked the game but I forgot to note the name. Now I can't find it. The game graphics look like Transportation Fever 2. More on the realistic style. All I can remember is the game is starting at somewhere sea side with 40ft HQ containers lying around. You hire 3-4 lorries to empty them to somewhere else. Then use the containers as living spaces. Maybe this is the standard game or maybe one of the maps. I can't remember. Does anyone know such game?
I also recommend the build with collisions mod if you can donwload that mod than you don’t need to look at hitboxes so if you want to build a really nice station but the game is complaining about the collisions you can judt ignore it and pres build anyway
Kinda hate having that many trucks though... And also changing every single line doesn't really make much sense if you're using the full output of that factory. It's only really a way to make more money from less resources mid game but you get overrun by things that actually need to be distributed by 1960's.
Theyve gotta get distributed somehow and lots of small quantities going lots of places trucks are really the only option. Really just keep up with the demand post 1960 its very possible as seen as in this video at the end
When you say its all automatic you confused me. The lines you set up telling the trains which goods to take where, load and unload options that you set. The trains dont just load what they need without you telling them surely? Great content btw. I have been experimenting with the hubs but run most cargo into the hub by train from the industries, seems to make it so busy I lose so much time with trains waiting for access. Also lose a lot of money.
Hi Azer, that exactly. They will auto load exactly whats needed. In terms of traffic issues make sure to follow correct train service hirearchy seen in my latest video and if there is a choke point add more inputs. Also, i recommend long trains for distribution, 680m long
how is running a train half empty both ways better than running it full one way and dead head on the return trip??? either way comes out to a empty train load.
Its my own map, and actually no this one isnt modded but i usually do mod size (watch my video on experimental map size) this map is available on my patreon page 👍
@@Hushey 😀 - sorry, I'm an old fart - your tutorials are great - I'm on my 20th or so map, made billions in the last one but the rail layout was awful. Now trying out your hub and spoke system but what do the letters OP stand for? cheers.
@sodbury6426 Oh by the way, once you know what to do you can load the old saves you have and fix the layout it had, I do it on Cities Skylines and will do it on this game once I figure it out, fixing stuff which I previously have problems with with new knowledge can be pleasurable for me 😅.
It's a pity you go dam fast. Very difficult to follow on the signals that end making the full system not working until you see the video several times with play and stop. The content is very great and think will attract more viewers if you just go a little slow in the intricate sections.
thanks, i get it. RUclips and social media is in a state. If it isnt hyper engaging youtube wont put it on the algorithm which as a small channel is the only thing keeping me going. I value your feedback and will try to do a better job when i renew the video and future videos
I agree, you talk really fast (or maybe I listen slowly, lol), and you flash around the map a lot. To follow what you're actually saying and doing, I have to slow the video down. When I do, I find that the content is really good, helping me to rethink the way I build my cargo network. Engaging doesn't mean you have to be fast, faster, fastest. You sound like you're very young (although the sound of a voice can be deceiving), so maybe that's why you equate engaging with fast. Engaging really only means you have to keep people's attention locked on your videos. Some youtubers have an engaging way of wording what they have to say, adding in a good sense of humour, while taking their time to make sure their explanation is clear. Food for thought?
@@Hushey I did finish, but didn't notice it mentioned after hearing it will be explained later? I'm talking about the game setting for towns having 2 cargo types
@@Hushey at the start of the video, you set it so that towns only need 2 cargo types (rather than 4 or 6). You mention that you will increase that later, and explain why, however it is never explained or increased. I'm curious what the explanation is and whether it is increased and how? TIA!
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There are a couple of things I want to hint on after playing the game for a long time on hardest / hilliest / lowest density modes without any mods and using no aircraft (as they are ridiculously overpowered). The video covers a lot of great tricks and tips, but I feel there are some things that were overlooked or actually not done "corrrectly":
1. Investment into roads / tracks are very cheap compared to running cost. So almost always it makes sense to build proper infrastructure. Also for depots, trucks /trains should be full asap, no long way to the loading station. This is even the case if you increase the default maintenance and track investment costs to the max.
2. Always build as straight lines as possible, even if there is additional investment attached. In almost no case you should use the pre-built roads. The revenue model works "as the crow flies", so every detour means less arrivals per year = less money, while same fixed running costs. It almost always pays off unless very hilly terrain
3. To further optimise, it indeed makes sense to build the stations as far away from each other as possible, even if at later stage you need to rebuild. Increases your revenue and with higher average truck speed also the efficiency.
4. Use only one platform to save investment and running costs on truck stations
5. Do not build extend the loading platforms for primary industries in the beginning; at least for trucks. They always produce much more than you can initially transport anyways and your trucks are wasting time in them. Different for secondary industries where you might need more storage space, but ideally you just have frequent truck arrivals with point 6. in mind.
6. A very essential optimisation is missing in the video. If an industry requires 2x input for 1x output, reflect that in your line management to always have 100% full trucks. Do A-B-A-B-C instead of A-B-C.
7. NO HILLS ON TRAINS. At least in the beginning. You must at all means maximise your avg speed on trains to keep revenue occuring as frequently as possible. Just reducing your avg speed by 10% will also reduce your revenue by 10% and thus taking a big hit on your margin. Very ideal scenario: A long, both loaded train line with one set of cars with both stations set on a slight hill and a valley in between so they can accelerate for the first minute to max speed by going down and then reducing speed as they approach their destination. Even though tunnels and terrain alignments are expensive; if they avoid a much longer detour, slow curves or hilly pieces which affect the trains speed, they are almost always worth it. In the beginning rather look for flat stretches only.
8. No short routes on trains. As mentioned above, trains should be quite long (As rule of thumb: 1850 min. 120m; 1900 min. 200m, 1950 min. 320m), but they need lots of time to accelerate, minimising avg speed, minimising your revenues. If your train is on max speed for only 50% of the route or does not even reach it, you do not have an efficient line.
9. NEVER ever have a train run empty. I mean not even a single car; if your train is not 100% full, you must optimise better. Always look out for goods types that can be used on your one-coach-type trains in both (or even more) directions.
11. Stop using mixed trains. One coach type only; this makes it a lot more efficient to achieve 100% utilisation and also manage the lines better.
12. Take very close attention to weight, running costs and length in comparison to the capacity a train brings and attach the right power to it. Its all about finding the balance of high avg speed vs. high capacity with the guardrails mentioned.
13. Be rigorous about finances. The company value is your indication if you are doing well. If it continues to go down, you most likely are doomed, even if your lines operationally make money. Keep a close eye on your financial statements and the line overview. Kill what does not have at least a 50% margin; trucks / feeders may be excused if for the greater need.
I only wanted to add point 6 in the beginning, but now ended up with this essay, sorry about that. There is tons of other efficiency tricks (especially on trains, using main lines / hubs / 10+ lines on the same track) where I think the implementation can be enhanced much further, maybe I will just do an intro on this at some point with a video. I am not too sure if this game is often played by players in such a "hardcore commercial" way, but if there is interest, why not.
Thanks for that, definately something to ponder in addition to the video. I've seen other tuturials with different strategies, and I think the beauty of this game is that it has different ways to make those lines profitable, or overall a net-gain.
Also I'm not going to say this to spite you, but you really should make your own video.
Heck, use free AI voice to easen the burden of vocal recording.
This is because you seem to be also very knowledgeble and we need all the help we can get.
Cheers mates, Godbless
I always go straight to 30 vehicles on the first cargo line, use the rest of my money to pay down loans. Sit and wait for $900,000 to build a second line with 30 road vehicles. After my 5th 30 vehicle line, I have my remaining $1 million paid off. By 1857, I have 16 cargo lines with 30 road vehicles each and $28 to $32 million balance. It is quite easy to get started and blow up your balance no matter what your difficulty settings are. When it comes to trains, be careful or it will suck you dry of that $28 to $32 million very quickly.
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Been playing since the first Transport Fever came out. I found your channel after looking up some tips and tricks to refine my game play a bit. Definately learned a few things from your channel. As a long term player, I learned alot by learning how not to do things. Transport Fever 2 feels alot more balanced and refined than Transport Fever did but the difference in the economy between the two games is huge. Transport Fever 2 seems to have much better performance and seems to handle alot more of a load before taxing your CPU.
So, Hushey decided to become a professor of Transport Fever 2. The audacity to give us an one hour lecture on cargo transportation in the game. What a lad! 😂😊
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So mechanism side note:
Placing depots further away actually causes the transfer rate to the depot to change, a depot right next to an industry will fill quicker than one on the edge of the catchment... Effectively speaking this doesn't matter for most cases since most people don't "min max" trucking routes in the early game anyway so you'll probably not be aiming for truck frequency to be high enough to hit the profit limit. See below.
As for local businesses, while we could go into detail about how frequency and throughput are factors that determine how much they're willing to pay for you to transport their goods, the end result basically is that there's a "profit ceiling" for shipping that is majorly effected by service frequency, you want to maximize profits by having enough trains/trucks on the line to maximize your profit without hitting the limit where you're not longer filling up your vehicles. You get paid more to ship things far away, but you're also paying more on maintenance for the vehicles, the fact is when factoring maintenance alone the shorter the distance the more profitable the line, you're also looking at a lot of emergent factors, such as traffic issues, that are lessened by not "spaghettifying" your routes to maximize distance. Having shorter trips that can focus on higher frequency and better speeds is the real money maker.
The fact is frequency profit caps are at their peak when the depot is as close as possible to the source of goods being shipped (delivering doesn't matter as it is instant, but you only really use this when placing in town truck stops). Ultimately for both major cases it's better to focus on industries that are close together, and to put the cargo terminals as close as possible to the industry to maximize the speed at which the industry can deliver the goods to the cargo terminal thus allowing you to maximize your pick up frequency.
Also, as a station building tip, terminal stations are GREAT for making the "rural platform" stations that don't have proper station buildings, you just build the terminal near the road side you're going to connect to then delete the station building itself and add some steps to connect to the road (make sure you leave enough space for them to fit). I always feel that this _looks_ better for cargo stations next to industries in the middle of nowhere.
I don't think local is the way to go
By going long routes you not only make more money.
You have a much longer turn around time so trains will almost Always be full/half full depending on industry.
Unless you are playing on extreme hills you can overload your trains, two minutes of acceleration doesn't matter if the drive is 10 minutes long (will still spend 7 minutes on maximum speed) but it does matter if the entire route is under 1 minute
And engine Power is what defines Most of the locomotive cost.
Not to mention a few very long trains are less disruptive and need less infrastructure than many small trains.
@@meki___6881 I didn't say local, I said shortening the routes, my comment was in response to his tip about putting depots far away from the industry to make them closer to the destination.
I was pointing out that there's actually a benefit to putting the depot closer to the industry to pick up cargo... but the benefit is ultimately going to go unused unless you're "perfectly" efficient with your frequency so moving the station to make the travel time shorter is actually better for a lot of factors.
It IS a good benefit to connect industries that are closer together if you are dead heading, which is very common in the early game... when profitability is actually important, especially with trucks and your initial train routes.
@@SherrifOfNottingham for early game and wen you have auto Closing industry it's indeed better with shorter connections. But I tend to space them out as soon the cash flow is Stable enough to support a long range line with pretty much no profit for a while.
But those routes tend to generate more Income than the trains on it are worth once they have equalized
Hi Hurshey, just a fact check ... Max length of vanilla rail station is 840 meters, very informative vid though and well presented !!
what platform are you on? Im running steam. Have i miscounted? I cant check this currently. And thanks!
you can 100% do all vehicles on next gen consoles you can also slow and speed up time
great!
People might be getting confused because these features are behind another menu or sometimes 2 before it
Getting all vehicles requires you to edit the map settings before you load a game with Y on Xbox, or the PS equivalent, then you have to go to the "Cheats" tab on map settings and then find the On/Off for Enable All Vehicles
Even then, I've personally found that trying to change the game settings in a game that has already been started is very finicky. Sometimes the changes will apply, sometimes they won't.
Tapping the stick once will pause the time
You just have to hold the right joystick on your controller to change the speed to normal, fast, and super fast
I've only figured this stuff out by messing with all the buttons and menus. Advanced features aren't super well explained and map settings straight isn't explained at all
Actually 75% of the trains drive on the left in the world, including France! [the other way round to cars etc.] I know some have both sides signalled, but things get messed up quickly if you do alternate which track you use @33:00.
Hey, could you do a series with normal gameplay? I would love to see how you manage your normal game, how you develop your cities and connections ❤ It would be great, i Wonder how you manage roads between cities, traffics and passenger transport. That would be great 🎉
WOW! ...again WOW!
TY! 👍 ...you`ve a heavy accent, speak like a machine gun...but,
your pronunciation is very clear and you`ve talent to explain (which many people think they have, but havent)
Greets from Vienna Pat 55y
well im glad you like it and found it useful. And my accent is actually very tame you ought to hear some of my friends haha!
@@Hushey
Swell, I never been unfortunatly in a native speaking english country!
...and I enjoyed your style! 😉
Its a really heavy game at the beginning, coz, there`s no turtorial...makes it really heavy!
...been surprised of your respending!
...shows a person of character!
Why I do say so? ...coz lots of influencer begging for comments, but never reads them....
C-ya! Stay as you are!
A couple of years ago I discovered that I could have one central distribution hub in the center of the map, radially built with 8 separate lines. It takes a bit to get them placed so they all highlight each other, but all you need then is to run lines to all sides and corners of the map (preferably with a town at each end) and it all works itself out just like your method.
yeah, just like that!
@@Hushey It was a revelation when I realised what was going on.
I'm a bit more then 100 hours into the game and seeing this I realised I'm totally not doing this in any save I played. 😂
Now I already play on 1/4 speed, because time is way too fast otherwise, but I always try to make money with oil/fuel and stone/grain train lines, filled both ways. I really need to get into the central hub mindset. Have a new game running on hard in 1865 with 56M in the bank so I wasn't doing too bad, might aswell try the central hub build.
@@damius1980 I have had many.. many.. "new games" , I am up to playthrough 17 now.
NEW UPLOAD!!!!!! I just found your channel and have been binge-watching everything. I love your content!
omg thanks so much someomeelse!
I remember playing Stormworks with you, its nice to see you grow.
Oh really wow, long time sincr ive played that. Hope you are doing well.
At 29:40 you forgot that you don't need to make two separate switches. you can drag it across to the other track, click on the switch, and set it to "double-slip".
Nah, this will make the speed limit about 10mph. So wouldnt recommend this
i know what to watch after training now, thanks Hushey!
No, thank you!
Sandbox mode is not needed for 1/4 speed - that's a vanilla option. Sorry :)
Ah! It deffo used to be so interesting they must have changed it
I kind of suck as a transport fever 2 player but when I start out I use a mod of cargo trams and good capacity early on there pretty good
That looong train around 26:37 looks awesome
Thanks for still making videos on this game. Probably one of my favorite transport games.
No worries enjoy
I tried to build one of these hubs using your instructions. I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong but I find I cannot tell the trains to use any line to load or unload. It seems sooner or later two or more trains will want to use the same unload stop even if there are free ones and then just hold up the line causing a traffic jam. I have to specifically assign just a single unload and divide the trains evenly between all the stops at the hub otherwise I get a traffic pile up.
Thats interesting. So its a problem with the alternate platforms?
This would be a real-world model: Hub & Spoke, in cargo train network, and this model can be used in passenger or cargo train/plane/ship transportation.
Collect the surrounding resources/goods and using the main line to transport the goods and it can be transported both way with cargo, without any empty.
exactly!
Thanks for the video Hushey, i watched the 8min version you had and got confused this cleared alot of things up but i still have a couple questions im hoping you have the time to answer. I understand the whole DH SY feeding everything into it.
1. I understand alternate platforms for trains purely unloading does this also work with loading trains ( and trucks at depots) does the game automatically move the goods when the train/truck come in and choose a platform.
2. On your mixed trains do you just leave the Load goods at 100% and what ever it picks up it picks up?
3. Similar to Q2 trucks delivering to city do you assign it just to say tools and have a line for each good? or do you just have the 1 line and use the all cargo trucks?
4. Im a little confused about delivering goods to other towns. Do you always just use trucks from the nearest DH or SY no matter the distance?
Sorry if you already explained some of these questions and im just a bit slow on the pick up.
Cheers
Hi nuknuk,
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Several lines dropping off in each city so goods are shared evenly not just to one place, with all goods capacity so it can take whatever.
4 After capitol has every good maxed out, a train can run back to SY, NY etc and then dispatch from there
Hope this helps :)
As a console player, I can confirm we have the option to use all vehicles.
We have most of the vanilla game settings, but accessing them can be a bit convoluted. That basically goes for most features in the game, but I still love it anyways :)
Which console?
@@Hushey
PlayStation 4 and Xbox Series S :)
@killer-bee7284 thanks!
Great vid !! In Belgium cars drive on the right side, but trains drive on the left ;-)
Thank you and cool that is Interesting.
Yesterday, I was wondering when the video will be uploaded and it came today!
Love these videos Hushey. My day is saved from being one of the worst.
Amazing! Glad you like it. Hope youre managing ok toby 🙂
Is there a facility in TF2 where we can save the design we have made, so we can paste it straight away, without having to redraw it from scratch?
for example the design of a train station
no. :(
on my game play, because there are lots of industry around the center hub, there is a lot of trains coming in and out, so the setion where the train switch going in and out from or to main line keep clogging up
prioritise road traffic for inbound and outbound goods to the hub. Hope this helps?
@@Hushey Is just too many train going in and out, so I use a bit different method.
The complete raw material dont need to go to the depot, just go stright to the factory, the second grade material such as plank, refined oil, steel and plastic can go to first depot and also all complete product as well, but do not use that depot for tansporting goods to city, use road to link up to another deport that is just transport to city.
I use 1 deport for 5-6 city, so I also did that with 8 platform, for first 6 is for city cargo, the last 2 is to transport goods from North to South.
What I also did as an optional extra is make another 2-4 platform depot on the other side of the first depot, link it to the first depot, and use it to transport second grade material to other depot on the map
@dorlagon2420 i understand. This video is now slightly outdated too because new ideas are always rolling out improving the meta. Its much better now. Try segregating NY/SY-DH trains and shunting trains. Long ass platforms (about 860m) for NY/SY-DH trains and like 60m for shunters. Less, longer, trains are better for NY/SY-NH
What´s a "guardrail", i read a comment below, no i can imagine, i´m fine. I swoosched through the tutorial like a, well, it was pretty straight forward. Now more reading about the game and looking up videos about it. Is that trying to avoid playing the game? Why did i buy it then. No it´s just that the allure of playing games have become a bit stale at this point, tomorrow i´ll be 58, happy birthday to me. And thanks for the show Hushey. 🙂
Happy birthday mr. T! Thanks for watching
@ Thank You 😊
Hushey - Love your videos. Very informative
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What are your favorite map seeds?
Do you know if mod loading order matters?
What are you ALWAYS load mods? - Im sure there are tons
Have you ever setup a TRUCKING Distribution Center?
Thank you for all your videos!
Hi glad you like them!
I just play random seeds, best unique experiences so its never the same.
mod load does matter, in certain context but most of the time no. only if it was a mod that requires another mod to run, so you'd load that one first in the order.
here's a link to every mod i have installed: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3198992997
Yes in some regards, the distribution hub you share the goods round the city with trucks but on tiny maps this can also be adapted to carry to other cities if you wanted though this isnt the meta.
Thanks for watching!
Hi hushey glad you're back 😊
hi anna!
WOW WOW WOW, An amazing video, thank you so much!!!!!
Really glad you found it useful!!
I have an issue with my trucks, I usually like to leave them with the full cargo option and they sart to queue and block the whole trucks stop, even though I have It like upgraded to the bigger one. Or there are a lot of trucks and cause a traffic jam
make a bigger/ better road system to input the trucks in to your distribution hub. This is a common issue. for example have a look at GTA V's port in the south of the map- that sort of setup. Traffic jams are easy to fix with A) lane management (i have a video on this, its maintaining the correct amount of lanes for tasks) and B) making the best public transport (just copy real life cities buses)
Keep going man you're doing good
Thanks man!
You should do a series where you review maps we submit. Would be awesome!
yeah that would be pretty cool
So for the 1850's do you do a industry near city - city - other city - industry near other city train line or like a industry to city and to another industry along the way back? Like surely if you have industries near cities and connect them up then there's no deadheading at all, so maximum profits right?
Not sure i understand can you share a screenshot to te discord?
@@Hushey Ok I just did
Hushey, I believe you can change date speed WO sandbox. I just use No vehicle end year, Deluxe content and achievement With mods. That works fine.
Nice one ty
You can slow time progression without sandbox mode.
👍
@@Hushey 👍
Great video, thanks for putting out new videos on this game still in '24!
So I do have a question, why do you have to wait until 1925 specifically to start with a cargo hub? What do you look for in your game that might suggest setting one up earlier or later is worth doing? I tend to double up early steam locomotives to get longer trains, is it just train length that you look at, or is it something else? I tend to focus on maximizing numbers on a single line at a time, bc I find that with some planning and enough volume, you can turn a profit on even a 50% deadhead truck line on very hard mode, as long as your line is straight enough and you throw enough trucks at it to overcome the infra costs. But that also means I have a ton of "extra" product to populate a hub with earlier than most might. Should I try for an earlier date because of that?
Hi Nick, it really is just a number target for newer players but you can literally day one do hubs if you want (but the trains are going to be terrible haha)
Do the same vid for PAX?
Why D 1\3 is the best on the hills. What's the parameter You see? ❤
Watch my train race video, i cover all trains against counterparts it should be on there 👍
Less goooooooo
Also can u live stream :)
I play on PS4 and the all vehicle option is not available
How do you up the cargo type demands ingame during the game, when it is set to 2 types of cargo in the beginning?
It should be automatic, by default in settings it should go up to 6
@@Hushey So what's the difference to the "up to 6" cargo types demand setting?
Cities demand 6 cargo instead of 2 👍I turn it on about 1900-1950 depending on how tryhard i played with hubs. Always play on 1/4 speed or youll still be on the basics in the 3000s
@@Hushey Ah. In the load Screen
Hi,
Several months ago I've watched a youtube video of a gameplay. I really liked the game but I forgot to note the name. Now I can't find it.
The game graphics look like Transportation Fever 2. More on the realistic style.
All I can remember is the game is starting at somewhere sea side with 40ft HQ containers lying around. You hire 3-4 lorries to empty them to somewhere else. Then use the containers as living spaces.
Maybe this is the standard game or maybe one of the maps. I can't remember. Does anyone know such game?
Finally found it! It was Captain of Industry
awesome!
I also recommend the build with collisions mod if you can donwload that mod than you don’t need to look at hitboxes so if you want to build a really nice station but the game is complaining about the collisions you can judt ignore it and pres build anyway
this dosent work for me! Not sure why. But yes its awesome i have used it on someone elses device
@@Hushey wait what it doens’t work for you i didn’t know that if the mod worked yes or no depended on the device
My solution is just to not play early game on land at all, and only invest in ships
Kinda hate having that many trucks though... And also changing every single line doesn't really make much sense if you're using the full output of that factory. It's only really a way to make more money from less resources mid game but you get overrun by things that actually need to be distributed by 1960's.
Theyve gotta get distributed somehow and lots of small quantities going lots of places trucks are really the only option. Really just keep up with the demand post 1960 its very possible as seen as in this video at the end
When you say its all automatic you confused me. The lines you set up telling the trains which goods to take where, load and unload options that you set. The trains dont just load what they need without you telling them surely? Great content btw. I have been experimenting with the hubs but run most cargo into the hub by train from the industries, seems to make it so busy I lose so much time with trains waiting for access. Also lose a lot of money.
Hi Azer, that exactly. They will auto load exactly whats needed. In terms of traffic issues make sure to follow correct train service hirearchy seen in my latest video and if there is a choke point add more inputs. Also, i recommend long trains for distribution, 680m long
how is running a train half empty both ways better than running it full one way and dead head on the return trip??? either way comes out to a empty train load.
This is explained in the video. Its because it changes the line(s) from manual cargo to automatic
Hey could you tell me whats the seed of this map?
Its just random sorry i dont know
This map look awsome. Whats is the namen? And why it looks so big ? Did u use a mod for it ?
Its my own map, and actually no this one isnt modded but i usually do mod size (watch my video on experimental map size) this map is available on my patreon page 👍
@@Hushey ah thnx. So only paid pp can have the map ?
@robinvangerwen9062 yes but all it is is the free info in these videos packaged up
@robinvangerwen9062 its only $3 tho
hi, i can't open the debug menu pressing alt gr+d
Guessing you are on laptop? Add function as well (fn)
what in the world is the ALT GRD for debug mode?
alt gr+d on the keyboard. If you google this it will tell you where the buttons are
@@Hushey Aha, so the right hand Alt + D - thanks!
No worries enjoy! 😀
Can ask videos tutorial on Transport fever frist one plz on train or bus or trams
not really cus everyone plays tpf2 not tpf1
Ps5 I can do all vehicles but it disables trophies
Thanks!
Hi husley!
I have a video idea
do one vanilla playthrough no mod
Everyones doing that im afraid, i need to make something more original
@@Hushey Maybe try a more realistic approach with workshop mods and maps. Maybe replicate a country or something
thanks but no, thats already been done to death already. Need to be original
You cant do all veichles on the xbox one version
Looking like the one s that has and one dosent thanks for your feedback
this is great but what is OP?
The cargo systems shown in the video
@@Hushey 😀 - sorry, I'm an old fart - your tutorials are great - I'm on my 20th or so map, made billions in the last one but the rail layout was awful. Now trying out your hub and spoke system but what do the letters OP stand for? cheers.
Oh! Sorry i understand now. It means overpowered
@@Hushey ahah! - thanks
@sodbury6426 Oh by the way, once you know what to do you can load the old saves you have and fix the layout it had, I do it on Cities Skylines and will do it on this game once I figure it out, fixing stuff which I previously have problems with with new knowledge can be pleasurable for me 😅.
I've got Xbox series s and I can enable all vehicles & mod
Awesome thanks for sharing
My son, on Xbox S can not enable all vehicles
Thanks for sharing
No console can't select all
from what i hear on other comments, it can but only latest generation.
After watching this I realise I suck at this game 😂😂😂
Hahah you can always learn
Ps5…we can🤝
It's a pity you go dam fast. Very difficult to follow on the signals that end making the full system not working until you see the video several times with play and stop. The content is very great and think will attract more viewers if you just go a little slow in the intricate sections.
thanks, i get it. RUclips and social media is in a state. If it isnt hyper engaging youtube wont put it on the algorithm which as a small channel is the only thing keeping me going. I value your feedback and will try to do a better job when i renew the video and future videos
@@Hushey Thanks and pls continue doing these great videos/tutorials. The Cargo hub has been a game changer for me on TF2
I will, glad they help.
I agree, you talk really fast (or maybe I listen slowly, lol), and you flash around the map a lot. To follow what you're actually saying and doing, I have to slow the video down. When I do, I find that the content is really good, helping me to rethink the way I build my cargo network.
Engaging doesn't mean you have to be fast, faster, fastest. You sound like you're very young (although the sound of a voice can be deceiving), so maybe that's why you equate engaging with fast. Engaging really only means you have to keep people's attention locked on your videos. Some youtubers have an engaging way of wording what they have to say, adding in a good sense of humour, while taking their time to make sure their explanation is clear. Food for thought?
@@veravanderstruik7559 yeah
Towns, Cargo Types, 1925 and 2000s? What happened and why? haha
Yeah, just find out by watching the video lmao
@@Hushey I did finish, but didn't notice it mentioned after hearing it will be explained later? I'm talking about the game setting for towns having 2 cargo types
@Zark0tic i dont understand what you mean, what are you struggling with
@@Hushey at the start of the video, you set it so that towns only need 2 cargo types (rather than 4 or 6). You mention that you will increase that later, and explain why, however it is never explained or increased. I'm curious what the explanation is and whether it is increased and how? TIA!
@Zark0tic oh, oops. 1850 -2. 1925-4. 2000-6+.
Ps5 and we can
😊
Great to hear
I just use a single train with 100 wagons 😌
you can do long trains thats fine! Try and make them 860m or less as this is the max platform size
No costs?then why play?wheres the challenge?
Exactly. Yeah.
ps5 works
PAUSE THE GAME!
Are you asking me how or telling me 😂