Since Jeter 02 asked and I didn’t really cover it in my video, here are my official thoughts: Pros - I liked the variety. The mystery of not knowing what was in the hit pack at the end was cool even though they were low end. The Junior pack for kids was a great idea and I would love to see others look to see how they could incorporate something like this into their product to get young kids involved. However, I won’t order from them again as their site clearly states there wouldn’t be any retail packs. I just loose faith in the brand and the integrity of it just raises other questions - what other packs may be retail? Do they pick and choose who gets the Golden Tickets rather than it be random (transparency)? I feel like for $100 you can go a couple other route on a sub box or just go buy a hobby box. It’s also possible these are “growing pains” of a very young company and hope they can use this as a learning experience to become better in the future.
Definitely agree. Some of these sub boxes are pretty bad. Seems like some of them are just a straight up rip off where these people know they can make easy money loading them with crap packs. I mean $100 for that is ridiculous. Just my opinion. Packs from 13 and 14. Come on. They know people will buy them because we all get giddy when new products come out. And IF they said no retail on their site, that is total bullshit and I would ask for a refund.
Ya I agree with your review 100 a bit steep with retail packs and 2013 packs which are dirt cheap. And you know the hits are not going to be anything amazing
I looked into them too and felt that I could get better value from a boombox. Do you have a favorite subscription service? Personally, I prefer the boombox myself. I shot a video and it'll go up on my channel tomorrow, I got some very rare and incredible stuff! Love the channel, nice video, had to sub!
That optic pack was a target exclusive. You can only pull jerseys as hits. But I did pull a joshua dobbs patch gold 25/25 out of there and sold it for 30 bucks.
Thanks for posting. The Optic was retail and was included in error. We are sending a replacement hobby pack with our apologies and pulling that product from our inventory. All other packs were Hobby but even we would admit you had less than stellar results. We are taking feedback to heart and appreciate the comments on how we can improve, but obviously in this case we fell short, and will work to remedy that with our customer. The kid pack also includes a couple extra hits as well but hopefully that will go to a youngster to help grow the hobby.
Added by accident? Bullshit. $100 for that pile of GARBAGE?? Could've bought all the hits on ebay for less that $20 . Vault card Club product is TERRIBLE! How the hell can you call this HIGH ROLLERS? More like high priced rip off
Youre full of it. Why were retail packs even in your possession during sub box assemblies that are promised hobby packs only. Theres no way you put a retail pack in by mistake when its from the product easist to scam people on. It's not like you put a hanger box in there lmao you tried to sneak that retail pack and you know it.
It may be a hobby pack because the hobby packs had them too. I work for both Topps and Panini so I know for a fact the jersey cards in Optic go into hobby and retail packs. Just because you pulled a rookie jersey card out of Optic does not mean it is a hobby pack. If they say they only put hobby packs in their product, take them at their word. The card probably came from a hobby pack because you also pulled a prism rated rookie. Those only went into hobby packs.
Not sure if this is accurate, but I thought I heard that the way to tell retail from hobby is on the back. If it has a UPC code it's hobby, if it doesn't have a UPC it's retail. Again, not sure if that is true, but i do remember hearing something like that.
Yikes! Thanks for the vid. Couple of ok packs, but those vault "hits" were something only a relative would want. And some retail to boot. Saved me a bill
WooooooHooooo!! Txs for sharing a new product brother! I agree exactly with what you said...love the kids or Juniors pack and looks like it could have been a cool product but once they snuck that Retail pack in there you lose faith on the whole company and person running it. Not bad stuff but for $100 you could have racked so much better. Txs for sharing though to show us if we should or should not pull the trigger and I say currently it would be a no. Hope all is well my friend! God bless! WoooooHooooo!!
I went to the site after watching this video and the one-time version is a few dollars more than the subscription but not sure if its a one-year deal or if cancelled after a few months.
Retail pack, definitely. Thanks for doing this so I don't waste my money. Truthfully that vault package was trash. I'll save my money for Brothers in Cards. You get more than your money's worth from them.
I received the baseball high roller. Was not really impressed with it but was not totally disappointed. For the price did you think the pack choices add up to be worth it?
I have personally purchased a couple boxes from Walmart both the optic packs( like green and white pack as well as the yellow one.) Also I dont know if it's just my walmart or what but I have purchased panini contenders hobby box from walmart( It had I believe 1 auto or mem. And a couple numbers cards) it looks there were more retail packs then non retail packs.
Honestly - I liked the variety. The mystery of not knowing what was in the hit pack at the end was cool even though they were low end. The Junior pack for kids was a great idea. However, I won’t order from them again as their site clearly states there wouldn’t be any retail packs. I just loose faith in the brand and the integrity of it just raises other questions - what other packs may be retail? Do they pick and choose who gets the Golden Tickets rather than it be random (transparency)? I feel like for $100 you can go a couple other route on a sub box or just go buy a hobby box.
I wonder how many of those were retail packs. There's a way to tell should say hobby or have a capital H or something. Then they try to reel you in with a stack of $1 autos and relics. Bummer. Have you reached out to them?
For $100, I’d do a BIC Gold Box or a Mojo Chest. Thanks for sharing, not a fan of the layout of this product. I too would question the jersey out of optic. We loved that product, definitely a retail only...
A dav23 that’s why I love doing videos on new products. It allows you all to see if it’s something you’d like to purchase. If there’s something you’d ever like me to check out, just let me know!
I agree putting retail packs in when they exclusively advertise hobby packs is a huge red flag. Also, reading their website the “golden ticket” is only included in subscription boxes and not to the one time buyers, just one more thing that makes me skeptical about their whole operation.
Ouch this place needs to make sure no retail ever get in. Especially if they want people to post videos and they advertise it’s like going to your lcs but delivered to your door... ouch. Plus at least one 5-10 dollar hit out of the black package would be nice.
Ewwww Dave I’m sorry man that sucked I think they could have done better on the hits and packs I mean come on maybe some newer hits, and a retail pack what’s up with that!!!! Thanks for sharing if you do it again hopefully you get better hits!!!
Yeah, this is an over priced product. If they are going to continue this product, they MUST lower the price from 99 to maybe 85. 1) Retail packs (more than likely) in each box 2)The hits are dollar cards that people don’t want, unless you uniquely PC them. 3)The Mem or Material cards are out dated rookies, at least give a veteran (Like the Eli Manning, but even then maybe a napkin patch, not captain emblem that is shiny and that’s about it). ***The golden tickets might be just a marketing tool lol hopefully not, but it wouldn’t surprise me***
Since Jeter 02 asked and I didn’t really cover it in my video, here are my official thoughts:
Pros - I liked the variety. The mystery of not knowing what was in the hit pack at the end was cool even though they were low end. The Junior pack for kids was a great idea and I would love to see others look to see how they could incorporate something like this into their product to get young kids involved.
However, I won’t order from them again as their site clearly states there wouldn’t be any retail packs. I just loose faith in the brand and the integrity of it just raises other questions - what other packs may be retail? Do they pick and choose who gets the Golden Tickets rather than it be random (transparency)? I feel like for $100 you can go a couple other route on a sub box or just go buy a hobby box. It’s also possible these are “growing pains” of a very young company and hope they can use this as a learning experience to become better in the future.
Definitely agree. Some of these sub boxes are pretty bad. Seems like some of them are just a straight up rip off where these people know they can make easy money loading them with crap packs. I mean $100 for that is ridiculous. Just my opinion. Packs from 13 and 14. Come on. They know people will buy them because we all get giddy when new products come out. And IF they said no retail on their site, that is total bullshit and I would ask for a refund.
Ya I agree with your review 100 a bit steep with retail packs and 2013 packs which are dirt cheap. And you know the hits are not going to be anything amazing
davescards32 retail optic
That was retail!
I’m a little late to the party but what are som sub boxes you’d recommend?
Awesome. I would love to do a break video on some of these. I need to move beyond the few packs at a time. Lol
I think that optic was out of a mega retail box... pretty sure that's the only place to find the red/yellow parallels.
Target
Not cool, that was a retail pack of Optic!
you win some,you lose some.i actually shop more retail.no big deal.
you have good eyes.nice job noticing.
That box was BRUTAL
That Vault Pack further proves we are in the Junk Wax 2.0 Era.
I love how you find all these random hole-in-the-wall products haha.
RUclips just has random one off videos appear on my suggested and that’s how I stumbled across this!
lol...yeah really....el pieceo SHITo!
I looked into them too and felt that I could get better value from a boombox. Do you have a favorite subscription service? Personally, I prefer the boombox myself. I shot a video and it'll go up on my channel tomorrow, I got some very rare and incredible stuff! Love the channel, nice video, had to sub!
That's retail, Optic retail. Not 100% sure on the value of this product, not bad but not sure? Thanks for sharing this with us all!
Would love to but those AP’s off you if you still have them sir. Nice bustin!
Does it matter on what type of brands to make the card value or just a player them self?
Yea it was retail...wonder if a couple of them were. It was a nice chance i guess lol thanks for the preview
That optic pack was a target exclusive. You can only pull jerseys as hits. But I did pull a joshua dobbs patch gold 25/25 out of there and sold it for 30 bucks.
Thanks for posting. The Optic was retail and was included in error. We are sending a replacement hobby pack with our apologies and pulling that product from our inventory. All other packs were Hobby but even we would admit you had less than stellar results. We are taking feedback to heart and appreciate the comments on how we can improve, but obviously in this case we fell short, and will work to remedy that with our customer. The kid pack also includes a couple extra hits as well but hopefully that will go to a youngster to help grow the hobby.
Vault Card Club, are you sending a replacement hobby pack to everyone that ordered?
Dishonesty isn't going to grow the hobby What a joke. Glad you got busted on youtube
Added by accident? Bullshit. $100 for that pile of GARBAGE?? Could've bought all the hits on ebay for less that $20 . Vault card Club product is TERRIBLE! How the hell can you call this HIGH ROLLERS? More like high priced rip off
Should send him another box asap
Youre full of it. Why were retail packs even in your possession during sub box assemblies that are promised hobby packs only. Theres no way you put a retail pack in by mistake when its from the product easist to scam people on. It's not like you put a hanger box in there lmao you tried to sneak that retail pack and you know it.
The rookie jersey cards are part of the regular set, I believe.
It may be a hobby pack because the hobby packs had them too. I work for both Topps and Panini so I know for a fact the jersey cards in Optic go into hobby and retail packs. Just because you pulled a rookie jersey card out of Optic does not mean it is a hobby pack. If they say they only put hobby packs in their product, take them at their word. The card probably came from a hobby pack because you also pulled a prism rated rookie. Those only went into hobby packs.
I know tbe owners of vaultcardclub.com and I know they oy deal in hobby boxes for their product.
Pretty expensive, but a lot of hits.. but seem like low end hits. Still looks like a fun rip though! Great video brother 🔥
Not sure if this is accurate, but I thought I heard that the way to tell retail from hobby is on the back. If it has a UPC code it's hobby, if it doesn't have a UPC it's retail. Again, not sure if that is true, but i do remember hearing something like that.
You should check the packets at the bottom for re-sealing
Seems like a good product and fair price even with that retail pack
Better off with a $10 "mystery " pack from target. You get the same outcome with less disappoint.
Michael Zeinert
Out of the Target pack I got a Keenan Allen Rookie Auto
The 2016 optic pack is from the Walmart mega box, so it is kind of like a retail premium pack
Yikes! Thanks for the vid. Couple of ok packs, but those vault "hits" were something only a relative would want. And some retail to boot. Saved me a bill
Retail pack bro! Unreal
There was no barcode on that optic pack. It was from a blaster box
Logan Thomas has actually faired out pretty well as a TE. He’s been with the Bills for over 2 years.
WooooooHooooo!! Txs for sharing a new product brother! I agree exactly with what you said...love the kids or Juniors pack and looks like it could have been a cool product but once they snuck that Retail pack in there you lose faith on the whole company and person running it. Not bad stuff but for $100 you could have racked so much better. Txs for sharing though to show us if we should or should not pull the trigger and I say currently it would be a no. Hope all is well my friend! God bless! WoooooHooooo!!
The Optic With Hit is from a blaster
Nice review on that product. Pretty cool on the black pack thing. Looked like all dollar bin finds unfortunately. D'onta was a solid hit. 👍👍
How much is the vault club box? Optic is retail b/c of the RY Rated Rookie and the aqua JSY.
This one was their high end one at $100. They have a couple different tiers.
I went to the site after watching this video and the one-time version is a few dollars more than the subscription but not sure if its a one-year deal or if cancelled after a few months.
Retail pack, definitely. Thanks for doing this so I don't waste my money. Truthfully that vault package was trash. I'll save my money for Brothers in Cards. You get more than your money's worth from them.
I received the baseball high roller. Was not really impressed with it but was not totally disappointed. For the price did you think the pack choices add up to be worth it?
I have personally purchased a couple boxes from Walmart both the optic packs( like green and white pack as well as the yellow one.) Also I dont know if it's just my walmart or what but I have purchased panini contenders hobby box from walmart( It had I believe 1 auto or mem. And a couple numbers cards) it looks there were more retail packs then non retail packs.
Yes Logan Thomas is a TE and he is on the Bills roster. I have a Super Collection of his with over 170 cards. This is his 2 year as a TE
How much for the package ?
Dave I love your videos. Thanks for posting this. I think this Vault was a little weak for 100. What was your feeling ?
Honestly - I liked the variety. The mystery of not knowing what was in the hit pack at the end was cool even though they were low end. The Junior pack for kids was a great idea. However, I won’t order from them again as their site clearly states there wouldn’t be any retail packs. I just loose faith in the brand and the integrity of it just raises other questions - what other packs may be retail? Do they pick and choose who gets the Golden Tickets rather than it be random (transparency)? I feel like for $100 you can go a couple other route on a sub box or just go buy a hobby box.
Is that Danta Foreman really an on card autograph? Because it looks like a sticker auto.
Ehhh this isn’t good 😬 thanks for the warning lol glad to see your channel blown up! Almost at 2K man! Keep it up!
Thanks for the look see.
Definitely a retail pack man, pretty crappy to see that
That’s kinda cool!! Might try it out
Man 100$ I'd pass myself. Thanks for the video
I’m not impress with the vault pack.yes that optic was retail and I won’t be buying this product thanks for sharing this product.
How long have they been around
Nice video
How did the Ricardo Lewis card make him know it was retail instead of hobby? Sorry not super in to collecting just watching for fun and was curious.
Do u still have that rashad jennings because that is my local college?
Got the whole set
I want that Dan Bailey!
That retail pack would’ve pissed me off for the cost of the subscription box
I wonder how many of those were retail packs. There's a way to tell should say hobby or have a capital H or something. Then they try to reel you in with a stack of $1 autos and relics. Bummer. Have you reached out to them?
They kinda copied The Mojo chest.. plus the retail.. yikes...
Tbh, he ripped you off, a bunch of low end hits, a retail optic pack and the older prizm might have been retail as well, kind a shady
DallasCards what’s up Cade 50$🤑
Ya that was rather brutal glad he showed it so we know to stay away from that product
I'll stick with The Original Boombox High End, much better. Plus I don't want to know if I have a hit, the surprise is worth it lol.
Nice Eli Manning card man
Eh idk about this one. Lots of iffy products out there. The retail optic was no bueno!
I’d be pissed to pay $100 bucks for those hits. Could buy 2-3 commons for my T206 set for $100.
For $100, I’d do a BIC Gold Box or a Mojo Chest. Thanks for sharing, not a fan of the layout of this product. I too would question the jersey out of optic. We loved that product, definitely a retail only...
Yes brotha that is a retail pack
O man, that sucks. Thanks for being the guinea pig though!
I wouldn't have paid that much for low end cards but thank u for the video
A dav23 that’s why I love doing videos on new products. It allows you all to see if it’s something you’d like to purchase. If there’s something you’d ever like me to check out, just let me know!
That pack of optic was retail
can u believe the steeler and browns ended in a tie aftr 1 overtime
Yup that's retail optic
Wow a retail blaster pack that's not good. I think the 13 Prizm pack was a retail also. Oh jeez on top of it you got Mayled.
Retail got the same card from Walmart
That was bad my friend....u handled it a lot better then i would...that xmas gift was coal
Geez, after watching that catastrophe, it makes you want to rush out and buy another. The only value was the 2017 prizm jumbo pack.
That 1 pack was all qbs and kicker never ever seen that. A pack with 1 position
I've had several packs like that over the years. Just recently got a blaster of Panini football and had a pack in it that had all QBs.
That was a retail pack
Did anyone else notice the old tape on the top loaders? Not something I would buy.
Your bonus hits were better than the pack hits
Hobby packs have the bar code on the fold of the pack. Retail does not
I agree putting retail packs in when they exclusively advertise hobby packs is a huge red flag. Also, reading their website the “golden ticket” is only included in subscription boxes and not to the one time buyers, just one more thing that makes me skeptical about their whole operation.
retail packs mixed with what i presume is two hobby packs vault card collectors club playing it dirty
Nice break. Yes those optic packs are retail.
Definitely a retail pack 100%
It is retail optoc
I havent seen any of these products that are worth the money..does any one know of a good one with hobby packs..
Hey davescards32 I have a ton of Jags cards fs/ft
Let sunday open the junior pack lol
Ouch this place needs to make sure no retail ever get in. Especially if they want people to post videos and they advertise it’s like going to your lcs but delivered to your door... ouch. Plus at least one 5-10 dollar hit out of the black package would be nice.
Ewwww Dave I’m sorry man that sucked I think they could have done better on the hits and packs I mean come on maybe some newer hits, and a retail pack what’s up with that!!!! Thanks for sharing if you do it again hopefully you get better hits!!!
Yes it totally was a Retail pack
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DAYS OF OLD WHEN YOU COULD BUY A HOBBY BOX OF UPPERDECK PRETTY MUCH KNOWING YOU DBBL YOUR MONEY BOX ABOUT $150 NOT 1, 500
That optic is retail
That optic was a retail pack wtf
Bro that was a retail pack
The only thing that should be done with these cards are they should be kept in the vault
Bad product. Repacks suck also. Those cards have 0 value
lots of hits but i dont think id pay 100
not a huge fan, but thanks for sharing!
Lol..i think its pretty ballsy to advertise "NO RETAIL PACKS ONLY HOBBY" on their website. Trash product
If you wanna spend $100 on cards like these I can throw a ton in a box for ya lol
Definitely a retail pack. I would not be happy with a bunch of no name "hits". Cool concept I guess.
this reminds me of those mystery packs that people would put together in there bedroom, that I would call Dump my shit on you packs sorry bro
Ever since i got ripped off on the flamebox when that was a thing, I’ve been very leery on these random boxes. This product is definitely trash
Your video was great, thanks. The box... meh. Won't order
Yeah, this is an over priced product. If they are going to continue this product, they MUST lower the price from 99 to maybe 85.
1) Retail packs (more than likely) in each box
2)The hits are dollar cards that people don’t want, unless you uniquely PC them.
3)The Mem or Material cards are out dated rookies, at least give a veteran (Like the Eli Manning, but even then maybe a napkin patch, not captain emblem that is shiny and that’s about it).
***The golden tickets might be just a marketing tool lol hopefully not, but it wouldn’t surprise me***
Wow thats straight up robbery dor the price
You could tell it was gonna be trash from the packaging. Why would they send you anything valuable?? Its called a suckers bet