My hottest take is that Chopper's fruit is, in actuality, the Hito Hito No Mi Model: Mink. I first considered this in Zhou when they offhandedly mentioned that the minks call humans "lesser minks" because they think humans are just mostly-hairless minks. The similarities between Sulong and Monster Point made me even more suspicious, and seeing Chopper's rumble ball working for Bepo got me 100% in on the theory.
A lot of it's strangeness makes a lot more sense if you think of it as the mink fruit. His default brain point form looks a lot like some of the minks we've seen, and it explains his inability to FULLY become a human. I think his points are all combinations of various attributes from his reindeer, mink, and sulong forms. If I'm right, we will see Chopper use electro before the end of the series.
Considering all we know about how Oda does things now and considering what Chopper does and what his fruit looks like, we can summarize the situation pretty neatly: -Chopper has human like intelligence and his "full human form" is quite hairy -Chopper can grow to giant size by eating a pellet -Chopper became a doctor after eating his fruit -His fruit looks like a mushroom with a red top Conclusion: Chopper ate the "Hito Hito no Mi model: Doctor Mario"
I think it's human human Model: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde... A doctor that uses science to chang himself into a monster (rumble ball anyone?)... Meaning he might also have 2 awakenings. Monster point and an actual human form... Could actually be the pinnacle of what a human can be.
After the 2 year training arc, chopper doesn't need the rumble ball anymore except for his gigantic form. He basically modified his power using science. As for his "human" form, it's really just a very hairy human, according to one piece standards. Though after the training arc he made it bulkier and more monstrous as you said. The only strange thing is that he's still so small in his hybrid form despite reaching an adult size in his animal form.
No. Every other zoan actually has transformed. He's the only zoan I've seen simply cannot change their to look like what he's allegedly supposed to look like. No normal human being is shaped that way or that hairy.
@cyberfunk6699 It's true no normal human in one piece is that hairy as far as I know, but there are definitely some that are shaped that way, or shaped just as strangely.
Posttime skip it feel like he have total control on how his transformations look like. His new form, the kung fu point, look exactly like the humans from the island he was, so it is more likely intentional. He said himself he decided to become a monster so he doesn’t need his human form to look human anymore, so he CHOOSE to make it look like it. Then, it mean the fact his hybrid form is still so small is intentional too, this is the form he like to take by default, he like looking like that, this is a choice he made himself.
I'd like to make a correction, which is very important. Mushrooms are in fact NOT vegetables and indeed NOT fruits. Mushrooms are mushrooms, a completely separate entity from both vegetables and fruits, they belong to the group of Fungi. This is similar to how spiders are neither bugs or insects, but simply spiders.
Irritatingly enough, the mushroom part of the fungus is referred to as the "fruiting body", leading many people to confidently and incorrectly call them fruits
Since Luffy’s fruit reveal, I’ve begun to think that all Devil Fruits are driven somewhat by imagination, rather than physicality. That the user is essentially pushing their internal logic to determine the limits of the fruits I think it’d explain weird powers like Baby 5 (what she can become is limited to whatever she herself considers a weapon), or odd abilities like Law’s Gamma Knife/Injection Shot (which don’t really make sense unless you think “this room is my operating theatre, as a doctor I can do this, so in here I can do it as well”) This could also link to your suggestion that Chopper sees himself as a monster, so his fruit takes on more monster like properties
This actually would explain Kaku's use of the Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe, as throughout the fight with Zoro it becomes increasingly clear that 1.) Kaku does not know what a Giraffe is and 2.) Kaku's abilities are strange and not things a Giraffe can normally do.
Also King and Queen commenting on the skills of their own devil fruit dinosaurs, which obviously they don’t know. It may be similar to what Vegapunk said too about df too
Didn't chopper explicitly say he no longer needs the rumble ball for all of his basic points and in addition only needs to consume a singld rumble ball for monster point post time skip?
Wanted to post this as well xD Im rewatching OP with a friend and im at the beginning of Fishmen Island, if he doesn't say it i'll come back to this comment and correct this but for now i remember clearly him saying he doesn't need Rumble Balls for anything except Monster Point...
The thing with Chopper that people don't see as a whole is that Chopper changes to become like the humans he's around the most or the one's he looks up to the most. When he's with Ussop and Nami he becomes a scardy cat. With Zoro he becomes Brave. With Sanji he gets really selfless. With Luffy he tries to become strong. With Robin he flexes his intelligence. With Franky he starts to cut loose. During the time skip he made a form that looks just like the humans from the island. Monster point is how he feels other humans viewed him and he doesn't want to be seen that way so he defaults to small and cute so he can be likeable like a baby even though he's definitely a teenager. Chopper changes himself to be like humans personifying his Human Human fruit.
While I agree completely with this statement, I will forever love tiny chopper. Honestly, all his forms. However, the tiny little nugget will always be one of my favorite this humanity has ever came up with.
Woah, I was thinking about how much his kung fu point looks like the people he befriended during the time-skip. What if his fruit is the Hito Hito No Mi Model: Sapient? This could be what allows him to seemingly learn and even imitate others that he interacts with. Brain point might be his default form as he is always learning from his environment.
The way I see it there are actually two awakened zoan fruit forms. The failed forms which is the ones we see in impale down in which the animal side takes over and a true awakening in what we see with Lucci where the human side takes over. Chopper managed to gain control of the failed awaken form as he is an animal first and foremost but he has yet to show a true awakening with the halo/ring around his shoulders in which he is taken over by the human side of his fruit.
Chopper's fruit also seems to have had a major effect on one other aspect of him, his aging. Chopper was already 15 when we first met him, which, for a reindeer, would actually be extremely old. And, by now, he's probably nearly nineteen, which is older than ANY reindeer ever gets. And yet he is, if anything younger physically than even a human, would be at his age. Also he still has the iron repair band on his antler even though, as a reindeer, he should have shed and re-greown his antlers many, many times since he broke it (unless he now just adds one for cosmetic reasons). I have a nagging suspicion that Chopper is going to live to an age far beyond what even a normal human will (even without factoring in that, as a doctor, he has a pretty good idea of how to keep himself healthy.)
Funny thing is, his Walk Point shows his physical age, better than his Brain Point, as he looks like a fully grown reindeer, rather than the chibi mascot.
I also wonder if he might not be better off using Heavy Point in some non fighting circumstances. While he wouldn't need the muscles, Heavy Point does give him fingers, which I would imagine would make things like surgery a lot easier.
@@Sojoboscribe Tbh, he got used to it, it's like trying to type on a new keyboard layout, you will not be able to master it in a day, will take a year at least, so there's that. Also his Heavy point is big, imagine trying to be precise with a needle when you are as big as Shaq.
@Raikos100 True, but it appears he is able to develop new points with practice. I didn't so much mean use heavy point as possibly develop a smaller lighter point with fingers for surgery ( call it Dexterous Point).
I noticed when people use the fruit in pure animal form, they still have human traits, like how the hawk guy is a human sized hawk. Maybe Choppers fur is inherited to the human fruit. Also, i think the fruit is like the prime example of the animal it is based off on. That is why chopper is so damn smart and buff. Either that or he has the yeti fruit.
I like to think it is some yeti or big foot fruit, it makes way more sense, especially with how all of the forms look like, the "human form" looks like anything but human
No all the human Zoan users retain their size in proportion to the animal and why the little Tontata's stay relatively the same size even though the insect fruits they ate are actually bigger then them. It's why Kaku gets tall like a giraffe and most get buffer as well. It's supposed to be just a full human form but it isn't.
Or maybe the idea is that the yeti was a type of human, similar to how there are humans that are just blatantly animal looking. Maybe Chopper did eat the human human fruit but just a different model like the Onyudo, Nika and Daibutsu. I feel like the Hito Hito no mi fruits aren't actually human as in man, since literally none of the fruit we've seen thus far of the line are actually fully human as Sengoku does still have some superhuman abilities such as the Haki which could just be from the fruit. Heck, his awakened Brain point itself could even be considered a form of Kenbunshoku Haki because it does give him a sixth sense to see someone's weakness. So I feel like they're not exactly Zaun type fruit and may end up becoming a different category of devil fruit that's even rarer and just give the impression of Zaun fruits...like how Luffy seemed to only have Paramecia but gives him the ability to become Naki essentially. More like...God Fruit or Paranormal Fruit, since ever Hito hito no mi has had connection to a mythical being, including Chopper which is considered a Yeti.
One of my favorite one of my favorite Fan Theories, is the idea that since ‘human’ can apply to races like the Long-Leg Tribe, and the Long-Arm Tribe, and even more beyond that, that Chopper’s Hito-Hito No Mi can exemplify those humanistic traits, with examples like Arm Point and Jump Point, focusing on the arms and legs. It sort of falls a part when you look at all the other ‘human’ races, but I still think it’s pretty cool.
I mean, look at how long it took Luffy to figure out gear 2 and 3. Those were abilities he seemingly could've technically done at any point in his life prior to that. What's to say that Chopper couldn't theoretically have a "giant" form, a "fish man" form, etc. etc. that he just doesn't know how to use?
Pekoms used his ability twice: once in fish-man island and the second time in zou when jack was attacking zunesha and everything was falling sideways, Pekoms used his shell to “cushion” his impact when falling out of bed.
I kinda like the theory that he has the Human Human Fruit: Model (Forest God Name). I like this because while he did initially require the special drugs (note that Chopper learned *herbal medicine* and his rumble balls greatly resemble herbal medicine pellets), post timeskip he can use all the transformations without them, and the monster point can be used alongside the rumble ball to gain control. Monster Point, as mentioned, also has themes of mythological forest creatures and overall a very natural, wild aesthetic. All of this is very thematically appropriate and in fact provides an interesting parallel to Luffy when you consider that the rumble balls are Chopper embracing nature and using it for himself and eventually accepting it as part of him in a somewhat similar way to how Luffy's struggles always ending up having him use his imagination overcome obstacles to the freedom of himself and his friends, often at cost to himself. Maybe a stretch, but it wouldn't be the strangest twist in my opinion.
Back when we first learned that “a certain devil fruit in use on Wano” existed under a false identity, and we had yet to learn that it was Luffy’s, I had the idea that that devil fruit was the Hito Hito no mi, and instead of being a human Zoan, it was actually an *evolution* Paramecia, because we’d never seen Chopper go full human, and many of his points like guard and original horn point actually become distinctly less human. Instead, I theorized that all of Chopper’s transformations were actually different paths of evolution reindeer in the world of One Piece could eventually take, and the reason the five elders were so concerned about it was because if it awakened, the user could evolve other beings, and we would learn that an ancient user of that fruit was responsible for creating all the various races of the world like Fishmen, Minks, Giants, and Longarm tribesmen by evolving standard humans into them.
Chopper also has a hidden devil fruit. I believe we will learn of his zoan model later on the series. He is literally the only zoan in one piece without a model, so it must be kept hidden.
I can't say that for sure with how oda likes to add retroactive twists like he does but choppers doesn't need a model type. Other zoans have models because their animal categories cover so many varieties of one animal that are each basically their own species. Humans are just one species in total and its much different from how wide a variety a dog can come in. The basic human human fruit doesn't need a model because humans are just humans.
I really like the explanation for Devil Fruits being products of desire and will, since it explains why certain fruits of similar types work differently, or why some like the Hobby fruit have all these weird, left-field powers, and tons of other random/inconsistent junk
The concept of a Human-Human fruit is so philosophically complex that I'm not surprised that Chopper's powers are this convoluted. Humans are a really diverse animal, so maybe Chopper has so many forms with nebulous boundaries in between because "Human" in the context of a devil fruit is not limited to just a basic form-factor. I like to head cannon that a Human who eats the Human-Human fruit would be incredibly adaptable; being able to on-demand become a doctor, or a strongman, or kung-fu artist, or Jeckyl-Hyde style monster. To contain the multitudes of humanity within one being, or in other words, be more like a 'human'. With all that said, I wouldn't think the awakened form a human would be monster point, I bet it will be an amalgamation of everything we have seen Chopper do so far with an awesome new appearance. If Chopper has shown us everything he's got already, then this closing arcs of the story are going to be a bit of a bummer. Semi-related theory: when the Strawhats found out that Blackbeard's crew were stealing powerful devil fruits, Chopper worries out loud that they would come for him. I would not be surprised if this does come to pass, as there are so many instances of throw-away lines becoming prophecy later on.
I think zoans can awaken in 2 different forms. if their body or mind or whatever is not ready, they get overwhelmed and end up like monster point or the jailbeasts, but if you truly master your devilfruit, you get something like the cp0 guys. basically, the fruit might take over the eater if not done properly. that might also explain why there arn't any awakened among kaido. theym ight've just feared ending up somewhat mindless beasts.
I said it years ago, and I'll say it again. I genuinely think that Chopper's fruit is actually a sub type of the Hito Hito no Mi, and it's actually something like a sasquatch or bigfoot fruit, but he doesn't realize it. Kinda the same way Luffy was wrong about what fruit he ate.
@@xuklysc Yeah, same here. In fact, I think I even made the same statement on the Devil Fruit 101 video Liam did for Chopper's fruit, and there are still people getting in on that conversation years later. The revelation about Luffy's fruit caused in influx of comments about it too.
Only Oda can design a smoking reindeer, in a Hawaiian shirt, whos expression says 'I never recover from my traumatizing experiences', and say "this isn't unique enough."
I always just assumed that it was marketing that made Chopper's fruit act the way that it does. He looks cute/awesome depending on the point he is using and you can make different merchandise based on that. Monster point is the Shonen way of making Chopper have a SUPER transformation.
@Dr. Weewe Mongoose yes but look at choppers art in manga his points get even cuter. So he can sell more merch. Chopper is one of the most selled merchandise
I just assumed that Oda feels that humans are the default blank slate in this universe so Chopper’s reindeer-ness overwrites that. Like if a human ate a fruit that turned them into a reindeer and then they awakened, how would their awakened form look any different from Chopper’s Monster Point?
It's weird, I could have sworn that Oda originally designed the Human-Human Fruit to look human-shaped... Then again, having it look like a mushroom would make it easy for Chopper to think it was just a regular mushroom and eat it.
His new designs are probably the Canon forms. Which is annoying because when he started the series on screen (or panel) fruits look like real world fruits. Also, don't remember if this is from the original dub or the English dub, but either Sanji or Blackbeard make reference to both the DF Encyclopedia and memorizing the shape and patterns. Which lead me to believe that multiple fruits could be modeled similarly (example a pineapple) but have different swirl patterns that help distinguish them apart, maybe even be different colors.
Having it be a mushroom is also really thematically beautiful to have it tie into our world. With how some people do shrooms, to feel they've been enlightened.
@@harley8047 We havent seen aaaaall that many official fruits yet tbh, and most of them still just look like fruits with weird things attached or with weird patterns. The Ito Ito no mi is basically just a messed up pear, and so does the gura gura
10:47 I believe that Oda answer it better when the revealed that Devil Fruits have their own will and in some way are able to choose their host. Knowing this I believe that the Hito Hito no Mi "model: human" can not be eaten by a actual human since it would never let itself be eaten by a human.
I am pretty sure Chopper did say after the timeskip that now he has access to those points without rumble balls. The only he has to take a rumble ball was monster point.
The drugs cheats the awakening, making him be able to kinda access it temporaly. As he trains he can slowly awaken it for real, and you notice how his points are a big different from before also, meaning he got the true awakening on those forms, being able to use them better.
@@Raikos100 I'm pretty sure chopper simply learned how to use the points without the meds and the reason they changed, I believe chopper explained was because he realised luffy needs him to be a monster so he stopped trying to not be monsterish or w/e (can't remember the arc but it was ofc post time skip :P)
I had a theory that he ate the hito hito no mi: model human race. Meaning he can not only turn into a human, but anything similar to it. He can turn into a kid (his most common form), into an adult (monster point), and so on. He can also combine two forms like an hybrid form by controling his reindeer form and his human form. But watching the end of your video it made me think of the Skinwalker, which is a myth that there is a monster who can copy characteristics from animals or humans, and so in a world where there are more things than humans, it doesn't seem crazy to consider Chopper's devil fruit is the hito hito no mi: model Skinwalker.
The sea water thing has always been pretty consistent. It doesn't turn off your power it just makes you too weak to use them. Luffy doesn't lose any rubber property he just was too weak to stretch himself. But his body remains stretchy. It's been that way since day one
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. If we wanted to see Chopper be forced into standard Walk Point, Blackbeard's power would do it since it totally turns off devil fruits. The real scary question is what happens to Brook if Blackbeard uses his power on him?
@@davidwilliam9681 In fishman island brook was already forced to swim in seawater. Turns out, he's fine. It makes sense to me, why would you actively need strength in order to not die?
what happens if you become too weak to maintain your state of revival over your revived body, since revival is your power, a power weakened by sea water. He doesn't have any lungs to hold his breath or drown with. Brook may actually start getting directly killed by water once fully submerged. Hes like a Newgame plus character with a shared stamina, mana, and health bar. Conctact with sea water will effect all 3 as one for him. If he loses his strength and has his ability weakened by ocean water, he wont be able to maintain self resurection. He will just get progressively sleepier instead of drowning. Eventually losing so much consciousness he has returned to his normal self from 50 years ago...... inanimate...
I always figured he used drugs to unlock specific features of his fruit so all his 'points' were just the hybrid form forced to emphasize different features. In which case any zoan user could potentially hybrid into specific forms. For example, someone with a bird fruit would normally hybrid into wings, beak, claws, etc. But perhaps if they were to take Chopper's drugs or learn his technique they could manifest ONLY wings, or ONLY feet depending on what they needed. Though looking at how Oda likes to go back and change things to suit what he wants to tell now it's more likely than not chopper will suddenly have a mythical fruit like Luffy does now and he'll say "Oh there is no human form because it isn't REALLY a normal human fruit."
But if mushrooms/fungus can be Devil Fruits in One Piece, the real question is: did Django ate a Devil Fruit when he ate the mushroom in his face that made him able to perform his hypnosis techniques?
7:10 except, we konw from the manga ( didn't see the anime) that in the timeskip chopper trained to reach those "drug inducen" forms naturally, as the ruble ball only helped him reaching points in the spectrum he didn't have access to, and now needs the rumble ball only to reach monster point, that he now can control.
The only thing that I mostly know about the Hito Hito fruit series is that even if a human ate the fruit unless there is a main application, the end result would be what happened to Brook before he died. It would look as if nothing or barely anything happened at all and all you got was the short end of the stick.
I kinda want to see something like a follow-up video discussing the effects the rumble ball could have for other devil fruit users, whether it would theoretically work on certain types of devil fruits (Just zoans or only hito hito variants), andor how a rumble ball could affect the artificial devil fruits, such as the Smiles and Seraphim Green blood
Here's a thought for you, what if the fruit has the power to alter lineage factors temporarily? Making the person bigger, smaller, etc... But because Chopper doesn't know anything about the lineage factor he has no knowledge of how to actually use his fruit, hence he makes lineage factor altering rumbleballs based on his research into the fruit. So maybe on Elbaf after they rescue Vegapunk he will help Chopper understand his fruit
my favorite theory is that the fruit doesnt turn the user into just simply a human, but into the humanoid beings in the one piece world. their evolutionary tree, you could say. you can see chopper turn into a bunch of humanoid races, like giants with monster point or the torino with kung fu point. i just like the idea that chopper could be any humanoid race and in that way change to the situations needs. or maybe hes just able to accentuate certain parts of his body instead, idk.
To the point of submerging the water, Luffy still stretches as well. The Brain point "point" seems more like it's probably just his least dangerous or "baseline" form so it might just be the one that takes his body the least energy to be in, or rather he's "flexing" the last, so being submerged causes him to revert to that instead.
since the introduction of minks i started believing chopper wasnt a real reindeer but an hybrid . We dont really know the rules of reproduction in one piece but hybrids between minks and fishmen , human and fishmen and hinted human minks exists in universe so i believe an hybrid animal minks is possible . My theory : chopper is born hybrid from a reindeer and a minks , his parents died and he lives with the pack on 4 feet . When he ate the hito hito no mi he didnt transform into humanoid but his minks instincts took over and he developped human traits with rumble ball afterwards
Didn't chopper told that he doesn't need to use rumble ball except when he needs to transform to monster point, which makes horn point kung fu point a normal transformation for him.
i take it as he has gotten so used to the feeling of the drug on his powers, he can conciously tap into that feeling to trigger on command. therefore taking a rumble adds extra drug to that baseline, much like the overdose that oroginally triggered monster point. so basically he got so high, that he is now always high
Since Luffy didn't know the name of his fruit and just got the rubber as a side perk, then it could be that Chopper is like a yeti or something similar. There seem to be a lot of variants for the human fruit.
I think choppers fruit is honestly pretty consistent with zoan lore, its just an issue of everyone thinking its weird because we're human. Even when fully transformed zoan users retain some features of their alternate form, like the sword growing elephant tusks or lucy being a leopard with frizzy hair so it stands to reason choppers human form would retain some parts of being a reindeer like being extra hairy. And we've seen humans in every shape and size in one piece so chopper doesnt really stand out much compared to most people. If katakuri can be a human thats 20ft tall with shark teeth then choppers human form can be hairy with big arms. As for his other forms theyre explained via the rumble balls unlocking new forms and him learning to use them. I mean maybe every zoan has an unlimited number of forms and people are just uncreative with it or dont try to learn new forms because they never thought to, its not like there are devil fruit masters out there handing down techniques and the fruits are so rare people arent sure they're real outside the grand line. How long did it take momo to learn to transform between the basic forms, how would you expect some normal person to think of a new form or awakening without seeing someone else do it first.
The fact that Law as pirate yielded a lesser reward than his DF would on its own was low-key disappointing. Also, if we add his bounty & DF value we get 8 billion berries which is quite interesting. I wonder how many pirates will cross Rogers bounty if we add their individual bounty with their fruit value...
Why it doesn't add to it's bounty value is because of 2 things 1. The pirate could be brought in dead, which would mean no fruit, it reincarnated somewhere else 2. If they got the pirate alive, they would still need to find the type of fruit the DF would reincarnate into, and then have it on hand when killing him, and we don't even know if that's how reincarnation actually even works. Plus acquiring the fruit themselves has a much higher value then ridding the world of one, relatively inactive, pirates shenanigans.
1:25 from what we've seen of the Sea Effect, it seems to just remove the will to live so the user drowns and can't use their fruit's power but on a subconscious level some stuff might happen like Chopper going to brain point and brook not dying or luffy stretching in Arlong Park.
I have 3 things to say. 1. I always assumed it was like that because it was an animal who ate it. It makes sense that Chopper would still have animalistic like features in other forms because all Zoan Users have that in common. 2. I figured Chopper didn’t have a full awakening, but more of a Sudo Awakening. But the other comments brought up a good point. Full Awakened Zoans appear when the user have full control & mastery over their fruit. 3. If a normal human eats the Human Human Fruit… they gain the maximum potential of Humanity. For instance if Raily ate it… he could temporarily revert to his Peak Human state. A.k.a. His Younger Self.
The part about a wendigo Devil Fruit sounds pretty scary, scarier than I can imagine Chopper ever being. Like sure, Chopper unlocking Monster Point for the first time (which I consider to be his awakening) at Enies Lobby was kinda scary, but not wendigo levels of scary 😱
I've always had an interesting thought about how chopper's heavy point is not always the same size. (regardless of timeskip) Often times his heavy point is somewhat larger than a normal human, like when he was posing as a doctor in the navy base post skypiea. But other times he'd tower over everyone, my best example is the movie with the floaty dude. Mans was holding Nami in the palms of his hands like some kind of baby. I'd imagine it's just the result of the animators just picking a size and rolling with it, but I'd kinda like to think that the size of heavy point is tied in some way to Chopper's willpower. Like if he needs to be able to urgently exert a lot of force his heavy point is larger, whereas if he's trying to blend in it's smaller. If he's able to create new points, then I feel like it's reasonable if he's developing some kind of control over the way his fruit changes him. Perhaps eventually he may just take complete control and be able to freely change any aspect of his form at will.
The only thing that's ever confused me about Chopper's powers is: Why do the points, especially horn point and monster point, emphasize the reindeer parts more than the human parts?
The rumble balls give him the ability to change his appearance more drastically on both the animal and human sides like a mutation. Also, this is a theory, but I believe his devil fruit enables him to change into any human shape/body time, which is why he can appear small like a child and big like a neanderthal and gigantic like a titan. These are all different states of human evolution, and his semi awakening just turns him into a human monster/yeti because chopper sees himself as an abomination or freak because of his blue nose and even more also because of the human human fruit.
I feel the Wendigo version of the Human-Human devil fruit is what chop ate, cause he never quite looks human he looks like a mock interpretation of a human never a normal human he always has the head of a reindeer just like a wendigo. Also wendigo can very in size from 6ft all the way upwards of like 50ft. So Human-Human Wedigo Version makes the most sense here.
For quite some time, I have a feeling that Chopper's Devil Fruit is actually the Fruit of the Forest God! Which might be a more logical reason why Blackbeard went to Drum Island.
@@a.N..... I use to think Ryokugyu could have been the user of that Legendary Zoan (which in my opinion is type of Zoan the Nika Fruit & the other God named ones should be). But after learning that it is Logia, as well as what Celestial Dragon sympathizer he is, I no longer think that way.
It looks like chopper's devil fruit is similar to luffy's devil fruit in a smaller level. All transformations are similar and relatable to luffy's transformation.
Fun fact. Choppers fruit is based off the amanita muscaria mushroom because reindeer absolutely love eating them. Not so fun fact. The reindeer herders will sometimes drink the rain deer urine because they can't process the mescaline. Making the herders higher then wmba 🐱
There's no mescaline in amanita muscaria. There's other halluciniogenics but not mescaline. Actually, there's *nothing whatsoever* that contains mescaline growing in Northern Europe where the tradition stems from, and definitely not in the area where the Sami people (Sweden's indigenous people, the only ones still herding reindeer in the world) live.
Actually I wanted to correct this too - not only are mushrooms not vegetables (they’re a complex system of mycelium) Amanita’s do not contain mescaline - you’re confusing it with peyote. This is an important distinction because mescaline has desirable traits but Aminitas, which contain muscimol (not even psilocybin, the active psyedelic component in most commonly done psychoactive mushrooms) are extremely dissociative and toxic to the human body. Do not think you can eat the shrooms chopper did, because even if you and didn’t die, you will not have the silly trip you’re thinking of. You’re looking for mushrooms that grow in poop or woodchips and aren’t as pretty - sorry
Well Chopper does say in the fishman island battle that he only needs the rumble ball for one transformation which is his "monster point" form. So I always figured he just transforms because he trained to do it.
7:03 Chopper said that after his time skip training he only needs the rumble ball for Monster point. And every time he consumes one now he's instantly in monster and can't change till the ball wears off.
Its one of two things: either Oda is taking liberties (probably through the devil fruit desire explanation) or its a secret variant of the fruit and we just don't know. My money is probably an ancient variant, since it doesn't seem to have abilities outside of physical (though... some ancient varaints were capable of doing some very weird things outside their real world counterparts).
The best theory I've seen on the Human Human Fruit is that it is actually the miracle cure that was mentioned in Drum Island. Since Chopper mistook a mushroom for the cure.
Choppers fruit behaves alot like luffys. And since we know that they are both hito-hito style, I think that human fruits work differently in having multiple forms, like in choppers case points and in luffys case gears. Interestingly those zhoans are the only ones that change the body from the getgo. Luffy got a rubber body and chopper is a deer standing on 2 legs(like a human). The only other hito-hito fruit there is is Zengoku. But we haven't seen enough of him sadly.
I think his fruit chose to be eaten by chopper. The gum gum hid from the government for 800 years and Yamatos fruit stayed on wano and found its best protector. Some fruits are based on their own will and can "pick" when and where to be found. I always thought of it like the one ring having its own desires.
Choppers fruit is a lot of references. One that you missed was actually the tie between the Fly Amanita and the reindeer, people used to feed the hallucinogenic mushroom to their reondeer after drying them on trees so they could consume the urine and trip balls. This is thought to be one of the many many things that helped create what we now know as christmas traditions when they were all rolled up together
Also, remember that humans in one piece can learn to do some really weird things with their bodies, and zoans more so. Both Kaku and Lucci have optional transformations that could be considered "points".
What if Chopper ate the Human-Human No mi Model: Ancient Human. And every "Point" is actually a different "Stage" of Human, like every type of human before Homosapiens
I am frothing at the mouth for Oda to give more love to Chopper's research. Knowing that Luffy is a mythical Zoan now, wouldn't it be awesome if Chopper synthesized a rumble ball for Luffy? What if he could synthesize a medicine to lessen the taxing nature of Luffy's gears? I think Oda is really overlooking Choppers identity as a doctor specializing in devil fruit users, he could be such a strong supporting member of the Straw Hats.
I think the thing a lot of people forget is the devil fruits supposedly form from the imagination or want for something, so the powers they grant is more imagination based that reality based, hence from an animal or child's perspective a regular human could be considered a towering monster with amazing powers and strength, depending on the subject they base their opinion on.
Heavy Point was absolutely established to be his Human Form; Brain point his Hybrid, and Walk Point his full animal form. Plus Chopper hasn't needed a rumble ball to transform into anything but Monster Point since the time skip lol
@@abduking. last I checked leopards don't have curly hair or giraffe having square nose. All DF users have features of there original form in there full animal form. Chopper's fur and nose are not an outlier.
@@weathermangohanssj4 Nothing you've said is valid. lucci doesnt have curly hair and kaku doesnt have a square nose in there full beast transformations. you might of forgot that so i'll give you the benfit of doubt but your wrong.
@@thisisnotme6542 thats not how humans are built 😭😭 also he still has his regular nose shape which isn't human 😭.Kaku doesn't have his square nose shape in his full beast transformation so why is it different for chopper 🤔??
Don’t forget Stronger the horse ate a Pegasus devil fruit. I wonder if Chopper’s human-human fruit is actually a shape shifter model as it can take on different human shapes and designs?
You forgot to mention that Lucci has 5 forms. He has fully human, fully jaguar, hybrid, bulky hybrid, and awakened hybrid. His Awakened fruit producing dark clouds deserves some attention.
Chopper's fruit is going to be revealed as a Mythical Hito Hito, Model: Shamisen aka The Forest God. Think about these two things: How is Chopper able to communicate with every kind of animal? We've seen many instances where animals don't coexist with each other, but only do so whenever Chopper has an influence since he's able to communicate with almost all of them. Secondly, the mystery of Drum Island, we have Kureha talking about the Will of D, Hiriluk talking about haki users, Joyboy and the Void Century in his iconic speech, and lastly Blackbeard comes to visit the island for some reason. So clearly there is some grander occurrence happening with Drum Island and its history, it could be related to Chopper's uncommon Devil fruit.
@TheLazylonewolf Not true, not all animals can talk to each other. The only time they do speak with one another is when Chopper is initiating conversation. So it's happening for a reason
If you remember, back in the drum Island arc when there was this special mushroom that could cure anything (or something along those lines) i think choppers fruit is that, magical mushroom, i believe if chopper awakens the fruit he could become a better doctor hence why black beard had also come to drum island looking for it i dont know if i said that right, but hopefully you get the idea idk
i choose to believe that what we’re seeing with chopper is a true awakening, if you put the three zoan forms on a scale chopper can move the slider in a way current zoans have not, this could go along with his character being a doctor he has an in-depth understanding of human biology as well as his own
5:50Mushrooms are not vegetables for those curious. Fungi are their own animal kingdom! They are more closely related to humans than they are fruits and vegetables like liam so elloquently describes; they grow and comunitcate through root & nervous system like bodies called mycelium. They are even theorized to have concsious thoughts (just in a very diffferent way), and are confirmed to communicate across huge distances with something called the mycelial network. I also think this is why Oda used a mushroom for the hito hito no mi, thanks liam for the mushroom education
I think the simplest ancer is this Walk = reindeer Brain = humanity (humans are what we are for are minds not a are physical strength so it makes sense that this wold be chopers bace and what water can't take it away) Hevey = top tear human physical form big muscles But as to why chopper keeps his hair is cuz humans be hairy and since the fruit permanently modified his brain when he is in water it can't go full reindeer or human so it goes to hybrid
Also it is possible that human human fruits permanently alter a person's personality and brain we can argue this for all human human fruit users Chopers as I allreddy explained Luffy = joy boy Sengoku = wise and calm And the fox became a trixter so to speek it is possible that human human fruits are not mythical zone but a different off shot of zone all together
to me monster point is a forced/failed awakening (due to the rumble ball) and that's why he doesn't have that cloud "scarf" around his neck like luffy or lucci, so i think chopper will some day learn how to use it naturally and monster point would officially become his awakening just a headcanon tho
I always thought that Chopper's fruit was something like Hito Hito no Mi: Model Abominable Snowman. On his first transformation people literally treated him like some humanoid monster from the snowy mountains (abominable snowman), and Monster Point is a bit similar to what the Yeti Cool Brothers looked like on Punk Hazard.
I believe the reason Chopper is so different is because of the medications he takes to give himself 7 different forms of his body, even augmenting his largest form and the ability to keep his consciousness in that form because of said meds. Also, I keep wondering if Chopper will gain the ability of the minks with their Sulong abilities
I believe the rumble balls are to awaken the innate abilities of a human in Chopper's DF, but not the kind of humans like we are in the real world. There is really no distinction between giants and long-arm tribe and natural looking people in the One Piece world, so we might say that Chopper's DF is a collection of all unique traits of "humans" and chopper uses the rumble balls to improve his physical ability in order to manifest these traits
It's like Kuma's daughter, who stays adult even when unconscious, it's more to keep the story going, and it can also be from using that mode so much because of fear of showing the real form, it ends up that the body gets used to staying in that mode even in the ocean or unconscious.
8:25 - "Sadistically adorable"... so a chihuahua then. The odd thing I notice about Chopper's Human-Human Fruit not having a model is that his introductory included a Model with Dalton's Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Bison.
I always thought that after the time skip that Chopper could access his less regular points and only needed rumble balls for monster point. I figured part of his training was distablizing his fruit's power to access the special points and gain control over monster point. Ceasaur also modifies his rumble balls to keep monster point going longer, which further made me believe this
Chopper's devil fruit in my opinion is actually the Human -Human, Rare type, Model: Intelligence. He has the intelligence of a doctor who continues learning more things and never forgets anything he learned.
Chopper's fruit is truly a Human-Human fruit. I mean, you have to use drugs to reach your peak.
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Winner dont use drugs unless steroids in which case use lots of drugs- Gary sao tutorial npc
Fax
UnderRail thaught me that winners always drug up before a fight.
Man did chopper dirty 💀
My hottest take is that Chopper's fruit is, in actuality, the Hito Hito No Mi Model: Mink. I first considered this in Zhou when they offhandedly mentioned that the minks call humans "lesser minks" because they think humans are just mostly-hairless minks. The similarities between Sulong and Monster Point made me even more suspicious, and seeing Chopper's rumble ball working for Bepo got me 100% in on the theory.
A lot of it's strangeness makes a lot more sense if you think of it as the mink fruit. His default brain point form looks a lot like some of the minks we've seen, and it explains his inability to FULLY become a human. I think his points are all combinations of various attributes from his reindeer, mink, and sulong forms. If I'm right, we will see Chopper use electro before the end of the series.
He would finally have a herd or tribe if this true
@@waffledropper1826 I think he already does within the straw hats
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then shouldnt he have a zulong form
Considering all we know about how Oda does things now and considering what Chopper does and what his fruit looks like, we can summarize the situation pretty neatly:
-Chopper has human like intelligence and his "full human form" is quite hairy
-Chopper can grow to giant size by eating a pellet
-Chopper became a doctor after eating his fruit
-His fruit looks like a mushroom with a red top
Conclusion: Chopper ate the "Hito Hito no Mi model: Doctor Mario"
You made my day 🤣🔥🔥🔥
😒hahaha so funny
I think it's human human Model: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde... A doctor that uses science to chang himself into a monster (rumble ball anyone?)... Meaning he might also have 2 awakenings. Monster point and an actual human form... Could actually be the pinnacle of what a human can be.
@@vinnyclegg yeah, no.
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After the 2 year training arc, chopper doesn't need the rumble ball anymore except for his gigantic form. He basically modified his power using science. As for his "human" form, it's really just a very hairy human, according to one piece standards. Though after the training arc he made it bulkier and more monstrous as you said. The only strange thing is that he's still so small in his hybrid form despite reaching an adult size in his animal form.
Kinda like sugar
No. Every other zoan actually has transformed. He's the only zoan I've seen simply cannot change their to look like what he's allegedly supposed to look like. No normal human being is shaped that way or that hairy.
@cyberfunk6699 It's true no normal human in one piece is that hairy as far as I know, but there are definitely some that are shaped that way, or shaped just as strangely.
Though he keeps the nose of a reindeer, which is strange.
Posttime skip it feel like he have total control on how his transformations look like. His new form, the kung fu point, look exactly like the humans from the island he was, so it is more likely intentional. He said himself he decided to become a monster so he doesn’t need his human form to look human anymore, so he CHOOSE to make it look like it. Then, it mean the fact his hybrid form is still so small is intentional too, this is the form he like to take by default, he like looking like that, this is a choice he made himself.
I'd like to make a correction, which is very important. Mushrooms are in fact NOT vegetables and indeed NOT fruits. Mushrooms are mushrooms, a completely separate entity from both vegetables and fruits, they belong to the group of Fungi. This is similar to how spiders are neither bugs or insects, but simply spiders.
Mushrooms are also neither plants nor animals. They are separate in their own category of lifeforms
Irritatingly enough, the mushroom part of the fungus is referred to as the "fruiting body", leading many people to confidently and incorrectly call them fruits
Wouldn’t that make them a fungus
Fun guy*
I've literally never heard of someone thinking a mushroom is a fruit.
Since Luffy’s fruit reveal, I’ve begun to think that all Devil Fruits are driven somewhat by imagination, rather than physicality. That the user is essentially pushing their internal logic to determine the limits of the fruits
I think it’d explain weird powers like Baby 5 (what she can become is limited to whatever she herself considers a weapon), or odd abilities like Law’s Gamma Knife/Injection Shot (which don’t really make sense unless you think “this room is my operating theatre, as a doctor I can do this, so in here I can do it as well”)
This could also link to your suggestion that Chopper sees himself as a monster, so his fruit takes on more monster like properties
This actually would explain Kaku's use of the Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe, as throughout the fight with Zoro it becomes increasingly clear that 1.) Kaku does not know what a Giraffe is and 2.) Kaku's abilities are strange and not things a Giraffe can normally do.
Also King and Queen commenting on the skills of their own devil fruit dinosaurs, which obviously they don’t know.
It may be similar to what Vegapunk said too about df too
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@@Paulo594 right, it fits with his word about "Devil Fruits were born out of the wishes the people had"
@@SuperCybertigerSo human fruit bron from the wish of a human ? fish man ? Minks ? Oda is never gonna give this a answer sadly
Didn't chopper explicitly say he no longer needs the rumble ball for all of his basic points and in addition only needs to consume a singld rumble ball for monster point post time skip?
This I was going to comment exactly this
It was early timeskip probably on Fishman Island idk it's been many years
Was just about to post the same thing
This, seems like an obvious slip up to bait comments.
Louder!
Wanted to post this as well xD
Im rewatching OP with a friend and im at the beginning of Fishmen Island, if he doesn't say it i'll come back to this comment and correct this but for now i remember clearly him saying he doesn't need Rumble Balls for anything except Monster Point...
The thing with Chopper that people don't see as a whole is that Chopper changes to become like the humans he's around the most or the one's he looks up to the most. When he's with Ussop and Nami he becomes a scardy cat. With Zoro he becomes Brave. With Sanji he gets really selfless. With Luffy he tries to become strong. With Robin he flexes his intelligence. With Franky he starts to cut loose. During the time skip he made a form that looks just like the humans from the island. Monster point is how he feels other humans viewed him and he doesn't want to be seen that way so he defaults to small and cute so he can be likeable like a baby even though he's definitely a teenager. Chopper changes himself to be like humans personifying his Human Human fruit.
While I agree completely with this statement, I will forever love tiny chopper. Honestly, all his forms. However, the tiny little nugget will always be one of my favorite this humanity has ever came up with.
Woah, I was thinking about how much his kung fu point looks like the people he befriended during the time-skip. What if his fruit is the Hito Hito No Mi Model: Sapient? This could be what allows him to seemingly learn and even imitate others that he interacts with. Brain point might be his default form as he is always learning from his environment.
@@trebie5924 oh absolutely I agree! I think Brain Point is his true hybrid form.
The way I see it there are actually two awakened zoan fruit forms. The failed forms which is the ones we see in impale down in which the animal side takes over and a true awakening in what we see with Lucci where the human side takes over. Chopper managed to gain control of the failed awaken form as he is an animal first and foremost but he has yet to show a true awakening with the halo/ring around his shoulders in which he is taken over by the human side of his fruit.
i agree! and was hoping someone else out there would bring it up too.
Truuuu. But will his full awakening form be a reindeer or a white guy with khakis and a dress shirt LOL
@@juliantaylor5956 i think it will be like lucci where its human all but the facial features and markings of the animal.
@@juliantaylor5956 Hito hito no mi model Rayleigh?
@@Phantasmen XD so true
Chopper's fruit also seems to have had a major effect on one other aspect of him, his aging. Chopper was already 15 when we first met him, which, for a reindeer, would actually be extremely old. And, by now, he's probably nearly nineteen, which is older than ANY reindeer ever gets. And yet he is, if anything younger physically than even a human, would be at his age. Also he still has the iron repair band on his antler even though, as a reindeer, he should have shed and re-greown his antlers many, many times since he broke it (unless he now just adds one for cosmetic reasons). I have a nagging suspicion that Chopper is going to live to an age far beyond what even a normal human will (even without factoring in that, as a doctor, he has a pretty good idea of how to keep himself healthy.)
Funny thing is, his Walk Point shows his physical age, better than his Brain Point, as he looks like a fully grown reindeer, rather than the chibi mascot.
I also wonder if he might not be better off using Heavy Point in some non fighting circumstances. While he wouldn't need the muscles, Heavy Point does give him fingers, which I would imagine would make things like surgery a lot easier.
@@Sojoboscribe Tbh, he got used to it, it's like trying to type on a new keyboard layout, you will not be able to master it in a day, will take a year at least, so there's that. Also his Heavy point is big, imagine trying to be precise with a needle when you are as big as Shaq.
@Raikos100 True, but it appears he is able to develop new points with practice. I didn't so much mean use heavy point as possibly develop a smaller lighter point with fingers for surgery ( call it Dexterous Point).
I noticed when people use the fruit in pure animal form, they still have human traits, like how the hawk guy is a human sized hawk. Maybe Choppers fur is inherited to the human fruit.
Also, i think the fruit is like the prime example of the animal it is based off on. That is why chopper is so damn smart and buff.
Either that or he has the yeti fruit.
Yeti fruit ftw!
I like to think it is some yeti or big foot fruit, it makes way more sense, especially with how all of the forms look like, the "human form" looks like anything but human
Hito hito no mi model bigfoot/sasquatch?
No all the human Zoan users retain their size in proportion to the animal and why the little Tontata's stay relatively the same size even though the insect fruits they ate are actually bigger then them.
It's why Kaku gets tall like a giraffe and most get buffer as well.
It's supposed to be just a full human form but it isn't.
Or maybe the idea is that the yeti was a type of human, similar to how there are humans that are just blatantly animal looking. Maybe Chopper did eat the human human fruit but just a different model like the Onyudo, Nika and Daibutsu.
I feel like the Hito Hito no mi fruits aren't actually human as in man, since literally none of the fruit we've seen thus far of the line are actually fully human as Sengoku does still have some superhuman abilities such as the Haki which could just be from the fruit.
Heck, his awakened Brain point itself could even be considered a form of Kenbunshoku Haki because it does give him a sixth sense to see someone's weakness.
So I feel like they're not exactly Zaun type fruit and may end up becoming a different category of devil fruit that's even rarer and just give the impression of Zaun fruits...like how Luffy seemed to only have Paramecia but gives him the ability to become Naki essentially.
More like...God Fruit or Paranormal Fruit, since ever Hito hito no mi has had connection to a mythical being, including Chopper which is considered a Yeti.
One of my favorite one of my favorite Fan Theories, is the idea that since ‘human’ can apply to races like the Long-Leg Tribe, and the Long-Arm Tribe, and even more beyond that, that Chopper’s Hito-Hito No Mi can exemplify those humanistic traits, with examples like Arm Point and Jump Point, focusing on the arms and legs.
It sort of falls a part when you look at all the other ‘human’ races, but I still think it’s pretty cool.
I mean, look at how long it took Luffy to figure out gear 2 and 3. Those were abilities he seemingly could've technically done at any point in his life prior to that.
What's to say that Chopper couldn't theoretically have a "giant" form, a "fish man" form, etc. etc. that he just doesn't know how to use?
dang i just thinking of hito hito no mi model n*ga, sorry guys..
Pekoms used his ability twice: once in fish-man island and the second time in zou when jack was attacking zunesha and everything was falling sideways, Pekoms used his shell to “cushion” his impact when falling out of bed.
I kinda like the theory that he has the Human Human Fruit: Model (Forest God Name). I like this because while he did initially require the special drugs (note that Chopper learned *herbal medicine* and his rumble balls greatly resemble herbal medicine pellets), post timeskip he can use all the transformations without them, and the monster point can be used alongside the rumble ball to gain control. Monster Point, as mentioned, also has themes of mythological forest creatures and overall a very natural, wild aesthetic. All of this is very thematically appropriate and in fact provides an interesting parallel to Luffy when you consider that the rumble balls are Chopper embracing nature and using it for himself and eventually accepting it as part of him in a somewhat similar way to how Luffy's struggles always ending up having him use his imagination overcome obstacles to the freedom of himself and his friends, often at cost to himself. Maybe a stretch, but it wouldn't be the strangest twist in my opinion.
And kureha was painted
human fruit model ijiraq
Back when we first learned that “a certain devil fruit in use on Wano” existed under a false identity, and we had yet to learn that it was Luffy’s, I had the idea that that devil fruit was the Hito Hito no mi, and instead of being a human Zoan, it was actually an *evolution* Paramecia, because we’d never seen Chopper go full human, and many of his points like guard and original horn point actually become distinctly less human. Instead, I theorized that all of Chopper’s transformations were actually different paths of evolution reindeer in the world of One Piece could eventually take, and the reason the five elders were so concerned about it was because if it awakened, the user could evolve other beings, and we would learn that an ancient user of that fruit was responsible for creating all the various races of the world like Fishmen, Minks, Giants, and Longarm tribesmen by evolving standard humans into them.
I’m now invested in this theory
That's amazing
Yeah he becomes a better reindeer. He acts like he would be human eating a reindeer fruit and losing humanity as a second side effect or smth.
Silly you for thinking Chopper would ever be relevant to the main plot again and not just be a cute mascot character for the rest of time.
That would have been better than retconning Luffy's Gum-Gum Fruit into another Human-Human Fruit.
Chopper also has a hidden devil fruit. I believe we will learn of his zoan model later on the series. He is literally the only zoan in one piece without a model, so it must be kept hidden.
I can't say that for sure with how oda likes to add retroactive twists like he does but choppers doesn't need a model type. Other zoans have models because their animal categories cover so many varieties of one animal that are each basically their own species. Humans are just one species in total and its much different from how wide a variety a dog can come in. The basic human human fruit doesn't need a model because humans are just humans.
In the English dub of the anime his model type is Model: Standard.
Isnt Dalton just the Ox-Ox fruit, while Kaku has the Ox-Ox Fruit: Model Giraffe?
@@Willty64 Dalton's fruit is Model Bison, it won't make sense if only Choppers fruit doesn't have a model.
@@FlareFritz Human's aren't just humans in One Piece world. there are many subtypes including fishmen, lunarian, buccaneer, long arm, long leg, minks.
I really like the explanation for Devil Fruits being products of desire and will, since it explains why certain fruits of similar types work differently, or why some like the Hobby fruit have all these weird, left-field powers, and tons of other random/inconsistent junk
The concept of a Human-Human fruit is so philosophically complex that I'm not surprised that Chopper's powers are this convoluted. Humans are a really diverse animal, so maybe Chopper has so many forms with nebulous boundaries in between because "Human" in the context of a devil fruit is not limited to just a basic form-factor.
I like to head cannon that a Human who eats the Human-Human fruit would be incredibly adaptable; being able to on-demand become a doctor, or a strongman, or kung-fu artist, or Jeckyl-Hyde style monster. To contain the multitudes of humanity within one being, or in other words, be more like a 'human'.
With all that said, I wouldn't think the awakened form a human would be monster point, I bet it will be an amalgamation of everything we have seen Chopper do so far with an awesome new appearance. If Chopper has shown us everything he's got already, then this closing arcs of the story are going to be a bit of a bummer.
Semi-related theory: when the Strawhats found out that Blackbeard's crew were stealing powerful devil fruits, Chopper worries out loud that they would come for him. I would not be surprised if this does come to pass, as there are so many instances of throw-away lines becoming prophecy later on.
Oda said if a human ate chopper's fruit he'd just stay a regular human... That is unless this gets retconned.
I think zoans can awaken in 2 different forms. if their body or mind or whatever is not ready, they get overwhelmed and end up like monster point or the jailbeasts, but if you truly master your devilfruit, you get something like the cp0 guys. basically, the fruit might take over the eater if not done properly. that might also explain why there arn't any awakened among kaido. theym ight've just feared ending up somewhat mindless beasts.
I can imagine vegapunk used something similair to a more advanced rumble ball to forcefully awaken the jailer beasts
I love that you left the picture falling in the entire end of your video
The comedic timing was pretty good too
I said it years ago, and I'll say it again. I genuinely think that Chopper's fruit is actually a sub type of the Hito Hito no Mi, and it's actually something like a sasquatch or bigfoot fruit, but he doesn't realize it. Kinda the same way Luffy was wrong about what fruit he ate.
Even if that's not what Oda originally intended he could totally say it now and no one would question it haha
I've been years saying that I firmly defend it isn't base hito hito too. At the very least model mink (gorila?)
@@xuklysc Yeah, same here. In fact, I think I even made the same statement on the Devil Fruit 101 video Liam did for Chopper's fruit, and there are still people getting in on that conversation years later. The revelation about Luffy's fruit caused in influx of comments about it too.
I definitely think there’s a little more to be explained about it, wouldn’t be surprised if Vegapunk eventually has something to say about it
I'm thinking Wendigo.
Only Oda can design a smoking reindeer, in a Hawaiian shirt, whos expression says 'I never recover from my traumatizing experiences', and say "this isn't unique enough."
I always just assumed that it was marketing that made Chopper's fruit act the way that it does. He looks cute/awesome depending on the point he is using and you can make different merchandise based on that. Monster point is the Shonen way of making Chopper have a SUPER transformation.
I mean yea.... but it's fun to think of how it works in canon.
Why would that be for marketing? It's a story oda created for people to enjoy
@Dr. Weewe Mongoose yes but look at choppers art in manga his points get even cuter. So he can sell more merch. Chopper is one of the most selled merchandise
@@Dr.HooWho because chopper changed from being a character to being a mascot made to sell plushies
I just assumed that Oda feels that humans are the default blank slate in this universe so Chopper’s reindeer-ness overwrites that. Like if a human ate a fruit that turned them into a reindeer and then they awakened, how would their awakened form look any different from Chopper’s Monster Point?
It's weird, I could have sworn that Oda originally designed the Human-Human Fruit to look human-shaped... Then again, having it look like a mushroom would make it easy for Chopper to think it was just a regular mushroom and eat it.
His new designs are probably the Canon forms.
Which is annoying because when he started the series on screen (or panel) fruits look like real world fruits.
Also, don't remember if this is from the original dub or the English dub, but either Sanji or Blackbeard make reference to both the DF Encyclopedia and memorizing the shape and patterns.
Which lead me to believe that multiple fruits could be modeled similarly (example a pineapple) but have different swirl patterns that help distinguish them apart, maybe even be different colors.
It would have been cool if the hito hito no mi was instead a mandragora, a plant with a root that resembles a person somewhat.
Having it be a mushroom is also really thematically beautiful to have it tie into our world. With how some people do shrooms, to feel they've been enlightened.
@@Quocalimar Reindeer in Siberia do eat psychedelic mushrooms often, and shamans drink... yeah.
@@harley8047 We havent seen aaaaall that many official fruits yet tbh, and most of them still just look like fruits with weird things attached or with weird patterns. The Ito Ito no mi is basically just a messed up pear, and so does the gura gura
10:47 I believe that Oda answer it better when the revealed that Devil Fruits have their own will and in some way are able to choose their host.
Knowing this I believe that the Hito Hito no Mi "model: human" can not be eaten by a actual human since it would never let itself be eaten by a human.
I am pretty sure Chopper did say after the timeskip that now he has access to those points without rumble balls. The only he has to take a rumble ball was monster point.
he did.
The drugs cheats the awakening, making him be able to kinda access it temporaly. As he trains he can slowly awaken it for real, and you notice how his points are a big different from before also, meaning he got the true awakening on those forms, being able to use them better.
@@Raikos100 I'm pretty sure chopper simply learned how to use the points without the meds and the reason they changed, I believe chopper explained was because he realised luffy needs him to be a monster so he stopped trying to not be monsterish or w/e (can't remember the arc but it was ofc post time skip :P)
I had a theory that he ate the hito hito no mi: model human race. Meaning he can not only turn into a human, but anything similar to it. He can turn into a kid (his most common form), into an adult (monster point), and so on. He can also combine two forms like an hybrid form by controling his reindeer form and his human form.
But watching the end of your video it made me think of the Skinwalker, which is a myth that there is a monster who can copy characteristics from animals or humans, and so in a world where there are more things than humans, it doesn't seem crazy to consider Chopper's devil fruit is the hito hito no mi: model Skinwalker.
The sea water thing has always been pretty consistent. It doesn't turn off your power it just makes you too weak to use them.
Luffy doesn't lose any rubber property he just was too weak to stretch himself. But his body remains stretchy.
It's been that way since day one
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
If we wanted to see Chopper be forced into standard Walk Point, Blackbeard's power would do it since it totally turns off devil fruits. The real scary question is what happens to Brook if Blackbeard uses his power on him?
@ReinbachIII Brook would be fine. He would stay in his body but he wouldn't be able to use his powers. He would be limited to his swordfighting.
@@davidwilliam9681 In fishman island brook was already forced to swim in seawater. Turns out, he's fine. It makes sense to me, why would you actively need strength in order to not die?
Yup. If that were the case, Luffy would have died in Arlong Park as Nojiko would be unable to stretch his neck to get his head above water.
what happens if you become too weak to maintain your state of revival over your revived body, since revival is your power, a power weakened by sea water.
He doesn't have any lungs to hold his breath or drown with.
Brook may actually start getting directly killed by water once fully submerged. Hes like a Newgame plus character with a shared stamina, mana, and health bar.
Conctact with sea water will effect all 3 as one for him.
If he loses his strength and has his ability weakened by ocean water, he wont be able to maintain self resurection.
He will just get progressively sleepier instead of drowning. Eventually losing so much consciousness he has returned to his normal self from 50 years ago...... inanimate...
I always figured he used drugs to unlock specific features of his fruit so all his 'points' were just the hybrid form forced to emphasize different features. In which case any zoan user could potentially hybrid into specific forms. For example, someone with a bird fruit would normally hybrid into wings, beak, claws, etc. But perhaps if they were to take Chopper's drugs or learn his technique they could manifest ONLY wings, or ONLY feet depending on what they needed. Though looking at how Oda likes to go back and change things to suit what he wants to tell now it's more likely than not chopper will suddenly have a mythical fruit like Luffy does now and he'll say "Oh there is no human form because it isn't REALLY a normal human fruit."
But if mushrooms/fungus can be Devil Fruits in One Piece, the real question is: did Django ate a Devil Fruit when he ate the mushroom in his face that made him able to perform his hypnosis techniques?
7:10 except, we konw from the manga ( didn't see the anime) that in the timeskip chopper trained to reach those "drug inducen" forms naturally, as the ruble ball only helped him reaching points in the spectrum he didn't have access to, and now needs the rumble ball only to reach monster point, that he now can control.
The only thing that I mostly know about the Hito Hito fruit series is that even if a human ate the fruit unless there is a main application, the end result would be what happened to Brook before he died. It would look as if nothing or barely anything happened at all and all you got was the short end of the stick.
I kinda want to see something like a follow-up video discussing the effects the rumble ball could have for other devil fruit users, whether it would theoretically work on certain types of devil fruits (Just zoans or only hito hito variants), andor how a rumble ball could affect the artificial devil fruits, such as the Smiles and Seraphim Green blood
Here's a thought for you, what if the fruit has the power to alter lineage factors temporarily? Making the person bigger, smaller, etc... But because Chopper doesn't know anything about the lineage factor he has no knowledge of how to actually use his fruit, hence he makes lineage factor altering rumbleballs based on his research into the fruit. So maybe on Elbaf after they rescue Vegapunk he will help Chopper understand his fruit
Human eating the human human fruit equals a normal human who now cannot swim
my favorite theory is that the fruit doesnt turn the user into just simply a human, but into the humanoid beings in the one piece world. their evolutionary tree, you could say.
you can see chopper turn into a bunch of humanoid races, like giants with monster point or the torino with kung fu point. i just like the idea that chopper could be any humanoid race and in that way change to the situations needs.
or maybe hes just able to accentuate certain parts of his body instead, idk.
To the point of submerging the water, Luffy still stretches as well. The Brain point "point" seems more like it's probably just his least dangerous or "baseline" form so it might just be the one that takes his body the least energy to be in, or rather he's "flexing" the last, so being submerged causes him to revert to that instead.
mushrooms are not vegetables mushrooms are mushrooms
A fungus among us may i say
since the introduction of minks i started believing chopper wasnt a real reindeer but an hybrid . We dont really know the rules of reproduction in one piece but hybrids between minks and fishmen , human and fishmen and hinted human minks exists in universe so i believe an hybrid animal minks is possible . My theory : chopper is born hybrid from a reindeer and a minks , his parents died and he lives with the pack on 4 feet . When he ate the hito hito no mi he didnt transform into humanoid but his minks instincts took over and he developped human traits with rumble ball afterwards
Didn't chopper told that he doesn't need to use rumble ball except when he needs to transform to monster point, which makes horn point kung fu point a normal transformation for him.
Yup GLR is wrong here
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i take it as he has gotten so used to the feeling of the drug on his powers, he can conciously tap into that feeling to trigger on command.
therefore taking a rumble adds extra drug to that baseline, much like the overdose that oroginally triggered monster point.
so basically he got so high, that he is now always high
Since Luffy didn't know the name of his fruit and just got the rubber as a side perk, then it could be that Chopper is like a yeti or something similar. There seem to be a lot of variants for the human fruit.
unless its registerd the fruits are named by the user
I think choppers fruit is honestly pretty consistent with zoan lore, its just an issue of everyone thinking its weird because we're human.
Even when fully transformed zoan users retain some features of their alternate form, like the sword growing elephant tusks or lucy being a leopard with frizzy hair so it stands to reason choppers human form would retain some parts of being a reindeer like being extra hairy. And we've seen humans in every shape and size in one piece so chopper doesnt really stand out much compared to most people. If katakuri can be a human thats 20ft tall with shark teeth then choppers human form can be hairy with big arms.
As for his other forms theyre explained via the rumble balls unlocking new forms and him learning to use them. I mean maybe every zoan has an unlimited number of forms and people are just uncreative with it or dont try to learn new forms because they never thought to, its not like there are devil fruit masters out there handing down techniques and the fruits are so rare people arent sure they're real outside the grand line. How long did it take momo to learn to transform between the basic forms, how would you expect some normal person to think of a new form or awakening without seeing someone else do it first.
Man spoilered everyone who had not reached wano luffy's devil fruit
The fact that Law as pirate yielded a lesser reward than his DF would on its own was low-key disappointing.
Also, if we add his bounty & DF value we get 8 billion berries which is quite interesting. I wonder how many pirates will cross Rogers bounty if we add their individual bounty with their fruit value...
Why it doesn't add to it's bounty value is because of 2 things
1. The pirate could be brought in dead, which would mean no fruit, it reincarnated somewhere else
2. If they got the pirate alive, they would still need to find the type of fruit the DF would reincarnate into, and then have it on hand when killing him, and we don't even know if that's how reincarnation actually even works.
Plus acquiring the fruit themselves has a much higher value then ridding the world of one, relatively inactive, pirates shenanigans.
1:25 from what we've seen of the Sea Effect, it seems to just remove the will to live so the user drowns and can't use their fruit's power but on a subconscious level some stuff might happen like Chopper going to brain point and brook not dying or luffy stretching in Arlong Park.
Note on brook in water: he would remain in his body since he already died, he just went back to his body
I have 3 things to say.
1. I always assumed it was like that because it was an animal who ate it. It makes sense that Chopper would still have animalistic like features in other forms because all Zoan Users have that in common.
2. I figured Chopper didn’t have a full awakening, but more of a Sudo Awakening. But the other comments brought up a good point. Full Awakened Zoans appear when the user have full control & mastery over their fruit.
3. If a normal human eats the Human Human Fruit… they gain the maximum potential of Humanity. For instance if Raily ate it… he could temporarily revert to his Peak Human state. A.k.a. His Younger Self.
Chopper! My favourite super-underused character! Seriously, Chopper got the short end of the stick, he deserves so much more time than he gets
Also, the fact that he can speak while in his full animal form should be noted. That is unique to him as far as I remember.
The part about a wendigo Devil Fruit sounds pretty scary, scarier than I can imagine Chopper ever being. Like sure, Chopper unlocking Monster Point for the first time (which I consider to be his awakening) at Enies Lobby was kinda scary, but not wendigo levels of scary 😱
I've always had an interesting thought about how chopper's heavy point is not always the same size. (regardless of timeskip) Often times his heavy point is somewhat larger than a normal human, like when he was posing as a doctor in the navy base post skypiea. But other times he'd tower over everyone, my best example is the movie with the floaty dude. Mans was holding Nami in the palms of his hands like some kind of baby.
I'd imagine it's just the result of the animators just picking a size and rolling with it, but I'd kinda like to think that the size of heavy point is tied in some way to Chopper's willpower. Like if he needs to be able to urgently exert a lot of force his heavy point is larger, whereas if he's trying to blend in it's smaller. If he's able to create new points, then I feel like it's reasonable if he's developing some kind of control over the way his fruit changes him. Perhaps eventually he may just take complete control and be able to freely change any aspect of his form at will.
Baby wake up new Devil Fruit Theory video from Grand Line Review just dropped
Mushrooms aren't vegetables. They aren't even plants. They're fungi.
The only thing that's ever confused me about Chopper's powers is: Why do the points, especially horn point and monster point, emphasize the reindeer parts more than the human parts?
wendigo model
Because he is a reindeer at his core. It is his fruit that gives him his human aspect.
The rumble balls give him the ability to change his appearance more drastically on both the animal and human sides like a mutation. Also, this is a theory, but I believe his devil fruit enables him to change into any human shape/body time, which is why he can appear small like a child and big like a neanderthal and gigantic like a titan. These are all different states of human evolution, and his semi awakening just turns him into a human monster/yeti because chopper sees himself as an abomination or freak because of his blue nose and even more also because of the human human fruit.
I'd say, brain point is peak of human power, being smart. The rest could be a mutation bcs of the drugs (or forced awakening)
I feel the Wendigo version of the Human-Human devil fruit is what chop ate, cause he never quite looks human he looks like a mock interpretation of a human never a normal human he always has the head of a reindeer just like a wendigo. Also wendigo can very in size from 6ft all the way upwards of like 50ft. So Human-Human Wedigo Version makes the most sense here.
For quite some time, I have a feeling that Chopper's Devil Fruit is actually the Fruit of the Forest God! Which might be a more logical reason why Blackbeard went to Drum Island.
Seems redundant now we know about greenbull though
@@a.N..... I use to think Ryokugyu could have been the user of that Legendary Zoan (which in my opinion is type of Zoan the Nika Fruit & the other God named ones should be). But after learning that it is Logia, as well as what Celestial Dragon sympathizer he is, I no longer think that way.
More logical than it being an island famous for having some of the best doctors on the grand line?
It looks like chopper's devil fruit is similar to luffy's devil fruit in a smaller level. All transformations are similar and relatable to luffy's transformation.
Fun fact. Choppers fruit is based off the amanita muscaria mushroom because reindeer absolutely love eating them.
Not so fun fact. The reindeer herders will sometimes drink the rain deer urine because they can't process the mescaline. Making the herders higher then wmba 🐱
There's no mescaline in amanita muscaria. There's other halluciniogenics but not mescaline. Actually, there's *nothing whatsoever* that contains mescaline growing in Northern Europe where the tradition stems from, and definitely not in the area where the Sami people (Sweden's indigenous people, the only ones still herding reindeer in the world) live.
Actually I wanted to correct this too - not only are mushrooms not vegetables (they’re a complex system of mycelium) Amanita’s do not contain mescaline - you’re confusing it with peyote. This is an important distinction because mescaline has desirable traits but Aminitas, which contain muscimol (not even psilocybin, the active psyedelic component in most commonly done psychoactive mushrooms) are extremely dissociative and toxic to the human body. Do not think you can eat the shrooms chopper did, because even if you and didn’t die, you will not have the silly trip you’re thinking of. You’re looking for mushrooms that grow in poop or woodchips and aren’t as pretty - sorry
@@mrknots oh they are just as pretty growing out of cow 💩 my eyes light up and they sparkle. Lmao.
It's because the mushrooms that grow there are poisonous and the deer filter that out.
wrong, mushrooms are mushroom, neither a veggie nor a fruit nor whatever.
they are more alive than other plants thats why they got their own category
I feel like choppers fruit is basically doing different type of humans with different body sizes. Monster point is basically a giant human. Etc.
Well Chopper does say in the fishman island battle that he only needs the rumble ball for one transformation which is his "monster point" form. So I always figured he just transforms because he trained to do it.
Chopper needs a Powerup!!! Maybe a Human looking base form with the ability to still Beast Out /Monsterize!
7:03
Chopper said that after his time skip training he only needs the rumble ball for Monster point. And every time he consumes one now he's instantly in monster and can't change till the ball wears off.
Its one of two things: either Oda is taking liberties (probably through the devil fruit desire explanation) or its a secret variant of the fruit and we just don't know.
My money is probably an ancient variant, since it doesn't seem to have abilities outside of physical (though... some ancient varaints were capable of doing some very weird things outside their real world counterparts).
I have a theory that choppers fruit is the human human fruit model mink because minks aren’t fully human
Was Oda’s response to a human eating the human fruit a slight to the nika fruit? He did that “run away” thing like the reader was on to something…
The best theory I've seen on the Human Human Fruit is that it is actually the miracle cure that was mentioned in Drum Island. Since Chopper mistook a mushroom for the cure.
Choppers fruit behaves alot like luffys. And since we know that they are both hito-hito style, I think that human fruits work differently in having multiple forms, like in choppers case points and in luffys case gears. Interestingly those zhoans are the only ones that change the body from the getgo. Luffy got a rubber body and chopper is a deer standing on 2 legs(like a human). The only other hito-hito fruit there is is Zengoku. But we haven't seen enough of him sadly.
I think his fruit chose to be eaten by chopper. The gum gum hid from the government for 800 years and Yamatos fruit stayed on wano and found its best protector. Some fruits are based on their own will and can "pick" when and where to be found. I always thought of it like the one ring having its own desires.
Choppers fruit is a lot of references. One that you missed was actually the tie between the Fly Amanita and the reindeer, people used to feed the hallucinogenic mushroom to their reondeer after drying them on trees so they could consume the urine and trip balls. This is thought to be one of the many many things that helped create what we now know as christmas traditions when they were all rolled up together
Also, remember that humans in one piece can learn to do some really weird things with their bodies, and zoans more so. Both Kaku and Lucci have optional transformations that could be considered "points".
I think chopper's full human transformation is actually Brain Point. My evidence for this is he is literally a mature for his age child.
What if Chopper ate the
Human-Human No mi Model: Ancient Human.
And every "Point" is actually a different "Stage" of Human, like every type of human before Homosapiens
I am frothing at the mouth for Oda to give more love to Chopper's research. Knowing that Luffy is a mythical Zoan now, wouldn't it be awesome if Chopper synthesized a rumble ball for Luffy? What if he could synthesize a medicine to lessen the taxing nature of Luffy's gears? I think Oda is really overlooking Choppers identity as a doctor specializing in devil fruit users, he could be such a strong supporting member of the Straw Hats.
I think the thing a lot of people forget is the devil fruits supposedly form from the imagination or want for something, so the powers they grant is more imagination based that reality based, hence from an animal or child's perspective a regular human could be considered a towering monster with amazing powers and strength, depending on the subject they base their opinion on.
Heavy Point was absolutely established to be his Human Form; Brain point his Hybrid, and Walk Point his full animal form. Plus Chopper hasn't needed a rumble ball to transform into anything but Monster Point since the time skip lol
yh but heavy point isnt a human is more " humanlike" so why doesnt his df work correctly.
@@abduking. last I checked leopards don't have curly hair or giraffe having square nose. All DF users have features of there original form in there full animal form. Chopper's fur and nose are not an outlier.
@@weathermangohanssj4 Nothing you've said is valid. lucci doesnt have curly hair and kaku doesnt have a square nose in there full beast transformations. you might of forgot that so i'll give you the benfit of doubt but your wrong.
@@abduking. It is human. He's just hairy.
@@thisisnotme6542 thats not how humans are built 😭😭 also he still has his regular nose shape which isn't human 😭.Kaku doesn't have his square nose shape in his full beast transformation so why is it different for chopper 🤔??
after timeskip chopper says he only needs the rumble ball for monster point
Don’t forget Stronger the horse ate a Pegasus devil fruit. I wonder if Chopper’s human-human fruit is actually a shape shifter model as it can take on different human shapes and designs?
Hito Hito no mi Model Changeling?
Dude just let the fruit alone. Not every fruit is mythical just because Luffys is
You forgot to mention that Lucci has 5 forms. He has fully human, fully jaguar, hybrid, bulky hybrid, and awakened hybrid. His Awakened fruit producing dark clouds deserves some attention.
Chopper's fruit is going to be revealed as a Mythical Hito Hito, Model: Shamisen aka The Forest God. Think about these two things: How is Chopper able to communicate with every kind of animal? We've seen many instances where animals don't coexist with each other, but only do so whenever Chopper has an influence since he's able to communicate with almost all of them. Secondly, the mystery of Drum Island, we have Kureha talking about the Will of D, Hiriluk talking about haki users, Joyboy and the Void Century in his iconic speech, and lastly Blackbeard comes to visit the island for some reason. So clearly there is some grander occurrence happening with Drum Island and its history, it could be related to Chopper's uncommon Devil fruit.
I dunno, this seems like the "animals can talk to other animals" trope
@TheLazylonewolf Not true, not all animals can talk to each other. The only time they do speak with one another is when Chopper is initiating conversation. So it's happening for a reason
Chopper literally says that because he is an animal he can talk with other animals..
If you remember, back in the drum Island arc when there was this special mushroom that could cure anything (or something along those lines) i think choppers fruit is that, magical mushroom, i believe if chopper awakens the fruit he could become a better doctor hence why black beard had also come to drum island looking for it
i dont know if i said that right, but hopefully you get the idea idk
Chopper’s awakening should be a wendigo
i choose to believe that what we’re seeing with chopper is a true awakening, if you put the three zoan forms on a scale chopper can move the slider in a way current zoans have not, this could go along with his character being a doctor he has an in-depth understanding of human biology as well as his own
I'd love to see chopper as a full human at some points in the future!!!
5:50Mushrooms are not vegetables for those curious. Fungi are their own animal kingdom! They are more closely related to humans than they are fruits and vegetables like liam so elloquently describes; they grow and comunitcate through root & nervous system like bodies called mycelium. They are even theorized to have concsious thoughts (just in a very diffferent way), and are confirmed to communicate across huge distances with something called the mycelial network. I also think this is why Oda used a mushroom for the hito hito no mi, thanks liam for the mushroom education
I think the simplest ancer is this
Walk = reindeer
Brain = humanity (humans are what we are for are minds not a are physical strength so it makes sense that this wold be chopers bace and what water can't take it away)
Hevey = top tear human physical form big muscles
But as to why chopper keeps his hair is cuz humans be hairy and since the fruit permanently modified his brain when he is in water it can't go full reindeer or human so it goes to hybrid
Also it is possible that human human fruits permanently alter a person's personality and brain we can argue this for all human human fruit users
Chopers as I allreddy explained
Luffy = joy boy
Sengoku = wise and calm
And the fox became a trixter so to speek it is possible that human human fruits are not mythical zone but a different off shot of zone all together
to me monster point is a forced/failed awakening (due to the rumble ball) and that's why he doesn't have that cloud "scarf" around his neck like luffy or lucci, so i think chopper will some day learn how to use it naturally and monster point would officially become his awakening
just a headcanon tho
I always thought that Chopper's fruit was something like Hito Hito no Mi: Model Abominable Snowman. On his first transformation people literally treated him like some humanoid monster from the snowy mountains (abominable snowman), and Monster Point is a bit similar to what the Yeti Cool Brothers looked like on Punk Hazard.
11:03 they don't specifically say enlightenment but that is absolutely a fair translation of what Oda was describing.
I believe the reason Chopper is so different is because of the medications he takes to give himself 7 different forms of his body, even augmenting his largest form and the ability to keep his consciousness in that form because of said meds.
Also, I keep wondering if Chopper will gain the ability of the minks with their Sulong abilities
I believe the rumble balls are to awaken the innate abilities of a human in Chopper's DF, but not the kind of humans like we are in the real world. There is really no distinction between giants and long-arm tribe and natural looking people in the One Piece world, so we might say that Chopper's DF is a collection of all unique traits of "humans" and chopper uses the rumble balls to improve his physical ability in order to manifest these traits
I love the timing of the fall
I remember a cheetah who ate a human human fruit in long ring long land for some reason but I’m to lazy to go check
Love how the poster fell immediately when you started talking about luffy 11:58
It's like Kuma's daughter, who stays adult even when unconscious, it's more to keep the story going, and it can also be from using that mode so much because of fear of showing the real form, it ends up that the body gets used to staying in that mode even in the ocean or unconscious.
8:25 - "Sadistically adorable"... so a chihuahua then.
The odd thing I notice about Chopper's Human-Human Fruit not having a model is that his introductory included a Model with Dalton's Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Bison.
I always thought that after the time skip that Chopper could access his less regular points and only needed rumble balls for monster point. I figured part of his training was distablizing his fruit's power to access the special points and gain control over monster point. Ceasaur also modifies his rumble balls to keep monster point going longer, which further made me believe this
I noticed a long time ago that animals usually don't eat devil fruits. Animals can usually sense when something isn't safe.
Chopper's devil fruit in my opinion is actually the Human -Human, Rare type, Model: Intelligence. He has the intelligence of a doctor who continues learning more things and never forgets anything he learned.