Liza's lutz is my all time favorite. Her jumps are so effortless. I remembered that she jumped out of the camera several times. She deserves +5 for her 3 lutz.
The sad thing is that bad lutzes and even obvious flutzes can easily get higher GOE than Liza's textbook lutz because transitions, entries and arm positions (rippons or tanos) cancel out all the errors of the jump itself. Hence Medvedeva's super high GOEs for a non existing lutz. It's so unfair. The reason why Liza's lutz is so incredibly good is because you can't jump it like she does if you put all your energy in transitions, entries and arm positions. But I feel the jump itself should be judged, not everything else you do before, during and after it. A lutz should be a lutz. If it's not, it should not earn any points at all. Sorry, Evgenia.
I think both Rika and Liza have impeccable Lutz technique. But Liza jumps Lutz so effortlessly and the height is incredible. Rika might be a Lutz queen, but Liza is a Lutz goddess
The best lutz without question belongs to Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. It's a pity that she could not get +4 and +5 because she does not have creative entry going into the jump. I think she should mend that problem to get higher GOE because she surely can jump. Although at the same time I think distance, air position, height, and landing should be taken into account more because we're talking about jumps. Bigger jumps are harder to land and in my opinion look better and exciting compared to small jump. RIka's lutz also looks clean to me so she takes second place. Next one is Alina, then Kaori (her jumps are quite big but she is still flutzing. However IMO this season she has improved the edge compared to the deep inside edge she performed last season), and Sakamoto las place (no one is praising her for her jumps anyway, she is PCS darling).
Even with no creative entry Liza’s jump can get 4 - 5 GoE. There are 6 bullet points, creative entry is just 1 bullet point, so if she checks the other 5 bullet points she could get up to +5 GoE without any entry.
In order of preference: Liza has the best lutz, hands down, although her transitions into it are probably hurting her GOE for it; it defines effortless and she gets into the air at 1/4 rotation. The height is also amazing. Rika's lutz is a little worse, in that she gets into the air somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2, but she's quite clearly in the air by 1/2, and her landings are clean af. Her height isn't the best, but it's ok. Alina's lutz takeoff is 1/2 turn prerotated and her landings are so close to being UR. It's a far cry from her Olympic level. She looks so tired doing those jumps ): Kaori's takeoff is like Rika's in that she gets off the ice between 1/4 and 1/2 rotation, except her edge is seriously questionable. Her landing was possibly UR as well. Height is ok. Sofia has a clear flutz and prerotates 1/2. Her jump wasn't the highest this time either. Satoko has clear UR problems; this is well-documented, I don't need to say more. Sometimes she prerotates too, which is concerning. Her jumps are tiny.
1. Liza: Textbook. 2. Rika: Great, but outside edge isn't as good as Liza's. 3. Alina: Prerotated, shallow edge. 4. Kaori: Flutz. 5. Sofia: Flutz, prerotated. 6. Satoko: Full blade assistance, prerotated, underrotated. This isn't necessarily a definitive order; just the order for the lutzes shown. All the ladies are so talented though! It hurts me to have to put Satoko last but this just wasn't her best competition. :(
@@fashionmwah Just quoting myself again here to save time-- "Blade assistance is when a skater puts down the rest of their blade on what is supposed to be a toe pick jump, especially the flip and lutz." It's usually the kind of thing that can only be seen in slow motion, except to a very expert eye-- I still have to check in slow motion to see it. Hope that clears it up a bit :)
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 's Lutz is the best, but she always gets lower GOE for that than Rika. why??? Alina's Lutz was not good at the Final so she couldn't execute 3 Lo after that
@@tripleflutz3518 ruclips.net/video/edDVNJPAE8c/видео.html Rika's Lutz without any intricate entry got GOE 2.36. ____ Liza got GOE 1.77 for more intricate entry. ruclips.net/video/2_UppJyLuik/видео.html. both Lutzs are in approx. 2 min in the videos. look,pls. it's an obvious bias
Very easy. Rika and Tuktamysheva does a lutz. The other 4 no lutz so no lutz. And Alina here does the outside edge but other Alina's "lutzs" have no outside edge. Can you judge a lutz that is no lutz?
Alina kind of rotates on her toe pick for about 180 degrees and somewhere around the middle of that rotation (roughly when she has 1/4 of the first rotation covered) there is full-blade contact with ice. Which is by the way an interesting detail, because on the Olympics it was very similar to nowadays Sherbakova's "quad" lutz (2019 fall Grand-Prix for instance), i.e. a simple full-blade support and push. Now I see some sort of rotating *around* the pick but the inevitable full-blade contact is there. Unfortunately she maintains roughly the same technique now, here's a fresh sample (Grand-Prix NHK Trophy, SP, her second Grand-Prix stage): ruclips.net/video/-cjmcNrre94/видео.html. The rotation around the pick can be seen, also the edge is at least unclear in my opinion. @triple flutz keep the videos coming! Love what you are doing!
the best lutzes are definitely Rika Kihira and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. Their lutz technique is just so good and the outside edges of both of them are amazing! This is how I would rank the lutzes 1. Elizaveta tuktamysheva 2. Rika Kihira 3. Alina Zagitova 4. Kaori Sakomoto 5. Satoka Miyahara 6 Sofia Samurodova whatever what, they are all so good!
Wow, tripleflutz, you are sooo filling the gap of videos from Koola King. I mean.. it used to be just TSL and Koola King. To be honest, the opinions can be very very strong in the comments there, hehe. But now we have Skate Talk Online, In The Loop, and Triple Flutz for the awesome comparison vids! I feel genuine delight at new videos, I literally get ready with snacks to enjoy these. :D I'm not comparing or complaining at all. This is so fun! It's really exciting to watch these videos and appreciate these fantastic ladies. :D :D :D Thank you so much for your hard work editing and sharing your videos. :D I don't have many people to talk to about my hobby of watching figure skating so I'm really glad you are sharing your love for the sport. :D I think, Elizaveta's lutz was big and had this sort of spring feeling? I noticed that the different athletes have different technique. The toe-pick backward entrance appears to be the style of Tuktamysheva and Kihira while the twisting motion on the ice is more of Miyahara and Zagitova's style. I remember one of the commentators of the JGP explaining in an email correspondence that the former helps with more height in the jump while the latter helps with the rotation, sort of. Could the body build of the skater be a factor as well? Both Samudurova and Elizaveta are from the same school but they have different technique. I feel that out of the 6 bullet points, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva's lutz meet good take off landing, height and distance and effortless throughout. I am not sure how judges interpret good body position in the air. Creative entry and musicality are the areas where Elizaveta's jumps take the hits.
This comment just made my day! You are so sweet! :) I totally agree about Elizaveta's bullet points! Her jumps are the definition of textbook, she just needs some creative choreo to fill in the gaps in her programs. Yuzuru Hanyu jumps in a similar way to Liza where he springs off of his toepick with practically zero pre-rotation! Thanks again for sharing your love of the sport!
Rika and Liza have the best Lutz! Kaori is one of my favourite skaters and she has a flutz, hence the edge calls. It's very hard to correct. FYI: A flutz is a Lutz using an inside edge.
Nice video! Keep them coming. It is worthwhile to note that the technical panel did not call ! or e for any of the ladies' Lutz jumps. Thus, all of their outside edge was deemed sufficient. There is some aspect to technical judging that is escaping me. Some of the edges are far better than the others, but it is not reflected in the scoring. Maybe the judges were being more lenient during this specific competition. I would think that judging can never be completely exact. I think the judging was fair though.
You used 2 different lutzs of Zagi from 2 different presentations of Carmen. I am not sure about clear outside edge in neither one. It's rather a flat edge. The best is Liza's, then Rika's.
Well... I loved the clean and sincere Lutz edges from Rika Kihira and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, however in this video it was sooooooo clear the flutz edge of Alina Zagitova. So sad you were not fair enough to call it, even more her pre-rotation
Yeah no, you can play Alina's even slower using the speed setting on the video and it's a very obvious 1/2 take off full blade assist and while it's the best edge on a jump in a while it shallows out as she's jumping :( Otherwise I really enjoy this video! I wish I could enjoy Alina's skating more but she's been given programs that I reaallyyyy haven't enjoyed, It does nothing for her speed or skills. Liza will always have the best axel and lutz for me, I wish mishin fixed up the entries and step sequence because she has talent to the ears! And I desperatly need her to podium some more, she's an excellent jumper and so much speed and some fun routines and spins. I keep seeing people saying she's "old" and "looks heavy" but she keeps smashing everything. And her exhabition! Oh my god it set so many people off lol, I will miss it so much
Can someone tell me is it allowed to have 90° pre rotation or lutz and flip, or is it allowed to have 120° pre rotation, I can't find that on the internet?
Less than 90 degree prerotation for toe jumps and axels is textbook perfect. 180 degree prerotation is only allowed for loop and salchow. Currently all Eteri girls prerotate 180 degrees on toe jumps ("quad" girls prerotate even more, between 180 to 270 degrees) with forward entry to their jumps while the judges doesn't look into it is just sad. Example skaters with textbook jumps are Yuna Kim, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Karen Chen, Yuzuru Hanyu, Mikhail Kolyada, Nathan Chen, Jin Boyang, etc.
@@simpletruth5927 Thank you, I know that Eteri girls prerotate all they jumps to 180° I was just wondering how much prerotation is allowed on lutz and flip
LIZA! I love Rika but the height and distance and Liza's form while doing the Lutz is so beautiful. Such light toe pick. Clear outside edge. The ice coverage was wide and the height is amazing. Ladies division nowadays have such low heights on their jumps.
Holy cow! Rika Kihira rotates her textbook jumps so fast! Does anybody know her RPM? I read somewhere that Nathan Chen is the fastest among the men--hitting 440 RPMs during quads. But Rika, at least to my untrained eye (so please don't quote/attack me for this--I LOVE Nathan and I don't claim to be a physician) seems to be even faster than Nathan. Can someone confirm? Thank you. 😊 And of course, quality video content. So thank you, thank you! Rika and Tuktik are tied for me--with Rika edging Tuktik just a *little* bit because her rotations' speed blows my skates off!
Holy crap, I've never seen the problem with Alina's entry this clearly until now. My favourite was Rika's, perhaps it's the camera angle, but I felt like her technique was most pure. I could see for the first time how a lutz physically works - she used to toe pick to propel herself UP not AROUND (and the spinning is from HITTING the ice at an angle and with momentum, not spinning on the toepick), whereas for the others it still looked like the way they use their toepick they could pre-rotate on an off day if their muscles were a bit tired. Rika's seem like she will never prerotate, she will just fall from not having enough momentum/muscle. :P Sorry, I'm just excited because I feel like I just learnt how lutz physics work watching that. I do also like Liza's lutz for making the toepick look like it's just a light touch on the ice.
@@ДальшеБольше-р7ж, все, даже знаменитые фигуристы говорят, что у неё очень хорошая техника) И, как у каждого фигуристка есть погрешности, просто человек, который смотрит на неё с 2017 года, знает, что техника у неё правильная, и на некоторых соревнованиях она делает ошибки. Ну в принципе как и все))
У Кихиры и Лизы очень хороший лутц, у Алины в первый раз ребро близкое к нейтральному было, второй раз очень хорошее. Вообще, заметила, что у Этери все лутц прыгают на определенной стороне катка, спиной к камерам, очень сложно в таком положении разглядеть ребро.
Rika Kihira And Elizaveta Tuktamysheva is my favorite Lutz jumpers they are so accurate enough.
Rika and Liza are incredible! Their technique is stunning :)
The best one is Tuktamysheva's. The second best is Kihara's.(only judge 9 put -1. Why? ).
Both of them have very RIGHT techniques !
Their technique is stunning! :)
agreed 100 %
Yah....Really don't know why....
Both of them have high techniques but ISU didn't give them high GOE+...
J9 give -1,what?Kidding
my fave skater is zagi, but...liza's lutz so beautiful
rika's axel and lutz are wonderful too
紀平のルッツに-1をつけたジャッジは明らかに悪意を持っている
Liza's lutz is my all time favorite. Her jumps are so effortless. I remembered that she jumped out of the camera several times. She deserves +5 for her 3 lutz.
Her Lutz is absolutely gorgeous! :)
THe only reason I disagree with +5 is because her entries are not creative or complex. But a solid +4 for sure.
The sad thing is that bad lutzes and even obvious flutzes can easily get higher GOE than Liza's textbook lutz because transitions, entries and arm positions (rippons or tanos) cancel out all the errors of the jump itself. Hence Medvedeva's super high GOEs for a non existing lutz. It's so unfair. The reason why Liza's lutz is so incredibly good is because you can't jump it like she does if you put all your energy in transitions, entries and arm positions. But I feel the jump itself should be judged, not everything else you do before, during and after it. A lutz should be a lutz. If it's not, it should not earn any points at all. Sorry, Evgenia.
I think both Rika and Liza have impeccable Lutz technique. But Liza jumps Lutz so effortlessly and the height is incredible. Rika might be a Lutz queen, but Liza is a Lutz goddess
Liza and Rika !!! The 3 axel queens has also the best triple lutz today 💖
The best lutz without question belongs to Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. It's a pity that she could not get +4 and +5 because she does not have creative entry going into the jump. I think she should mend that problem to get higher GOE because she surely can jump. Although at the same time I think distance, air position, height, and landing should be taken into account more because we're talking about jumps. Bigger jumps are harder to land and in my opinion look better and exciting compared to small jump. RIka's lutz also looks clean to me so she takes second place. Next one is Alina, then Kaori (her jumps are quite big but she is still flutzing. However IMO this season she has improved the edge compared to the deep inside edge she performed last season), and Sakamoto las place (no one is praising her for her jumps anyway, she is PCS darling).
I agree! They should change that. It’s not just about creative entry. I think Elizaveta’s technique deserves more GOE.
Even with no creative entry Liza’s jump can get 4 - 5 GoE. There are 6 bullet points, creative entry is just 1 bullet point, so if she checks the other 5 bullet points she could get up to +5 GoE without any entry.
In order of preference:
Liza has the best lutz, hands down, although her transitions into it are probably hurting her GOE for it; it defines effortless and she gets into the air at 1/4 rotation. The height is also amazing.
Rika's lutz is a little worse, in that she gets into the air somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2, but she's quite clearly in the air by 1/2, and her landings are clean af. Her height isn't the best, but it's ok.
Alina's lutz takeoff is 1/2 turn prerotated and her landings are so close to being UR. It's a far cry from her Olympic level. She looks so tired doing those jumps ):
Kaori's takeoff is like Rika's in that she gets off the ice between 1/4 and 1/2 rotation, except her edge is seriously questionable. Her landing was possibly UR as well. Height is ok.
Sofia has a clear flutz and prerotates 1/2. Her jump wasn't the highest this time either.
Satoko has clear UR problems; this is well-documented, I don't need to say more. Sometimes she prerotates too, which is concerning. Her jumps are tiny.
What a solid analysis! Thanks for your input :)
To be fair, I do think Alina had a full-blade assistance at least twice during the Olympics. It has gotten worse but she had it coming.
Definitely Liza and probably Rika too. But Liza's luts is by far the most of quality.
1. Liza: Textbook.
2. Rika: Great, but outside edge isn't as good as Liza's.
3. Alina: Prerotated, shallow edge.
4. Kaori: Flutz.
5. Sofia: Flutz, prerotated.
6. Satoko: Full blade assistance, prerotated, underrotated.
This isn't necessarily a definitive order; just the order for the lutzes shown. All the ladies are so talented though! It hurts me to have to put Satoko last but this just wasn't her best competition. :(
Didn't Alina use blade assistance too? I'm sorry I'm new to the sport so I'm still learning all the terms and stuff!
Fuurin Takahara Same here! What is blade assistance?
@@fashionmwah Just quoting myself again here to save time-- "Blade assistance is when a skater puts down the rest of their blade on what is supposed to be a toe pick jump, especially the flip and lutz." It's usually the kind of thing that can only be seen in slow motion, except to a very expert eye-- I still have to check in slow motion to see it. Hope that clears it up a bit :)
Ariantez Oh wow! Finally I know what it means! Lol! Thank you very much!
Ariantez Alina has a full-blade assistant.
I love Rika
Elizabetas lutz is far superior,,,,it looks effortless with great height, clear back outside takeoff , easy full rotation, and strong landing.
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 's Lutz is the best, but she always gets lower GOE for that than Rika. why??? Alina's Lutz was not good at the Final so she couldn't execute 3 Lo after that
I think Liza gets less GOE because she does not have as intricate an entry as Rika, but her technique is so stunning! :)
@@tripleflutz3518 ruclips.net/video/edDVNJPAE8c/видео.html Rika's Lutz without any intricate entry got GOE 2.36. ____ Liza got GOE 1.77 for more intricate entry. ruclips.net/video/2_UppJyLuik/видео.html. both Lutzs are in approx. 2 min in the videos. look,pls. it's an obvious bias
Liza and Rika
Rika's and Liza's lutz are so gorgeous~ btw, Tarakanova's Lutz is beautiful too!
Very easy. Rika and Tuktamysheva does a lutz. The other 4 no lutz so no lutz. And Alina here does the outside edge but other Alina's "lutzs" have no outside edge. Can you judge a lutz that is no lutz?
Alina kind of rotates on her toe pick for about 180 degrees and somewhere around the middle of that rotation (roughly when she has 1/4 of the first rotation covered) there is full-blade contact with ice. Which is by the way an interesting detail, because on the Olympics it was very similar to nowadays Sherbakova's "quad" lutz (2019 fall Grand-Prix for instance), i.e. a simple full-blade support and push. Now I see some sort of rotating *around* the pick but the inevitable full-blade contact is there.
Unfortunately she maintains roughly the same technique now, here's a fresh sample (Grand-Prix NHK Trophy, SP, her second Grand-Prix stage): ruclips.net/video/-cjmcNrre94/видео.html. The rotation around the pick can be seen, also the edge is at least unclear in my opinion.
@triple flutz keep the videos coming! Love what you are doing!
Thanks for your analysis! Glad you enjoyed :)
Of these skaters Elizaveta jumps the best lutz, in general... The best lutz had Maria Butyrskaya, after her Julia Sebesthyen and Elizaveta .
What about Yuna or Carolina Kostner (albeit poor consistency on this jump or in general).
the best lutzes are definitely Rika Kihira and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. Their lutz technique is just so good
and the outside edges of both of them are amazing! This is how I would rank the lutzes
1. Elizaveta tuktamysheva
2. Rika Kihira
3. Alina Zagitova
4. Kaori Sakomoto
5. Satoka Miyahara
6 Sofia Samurodova
whatever what, they are all so good!
It would be fun to compare spins
should include pre-rotate & under-rotate as well fr evaluation. I thought Rika is the best even if she pre-rotate a bit
Oh my... I think Satoko also jumps with blade assistance. It was pretty clear from the clip you showed.
Wow, tripleflutz, you are sooo filling the gap of videos from Koola King. I mean.. it used to be just TSL and Koola King. To be honest, the opinions can be very very strong in the comments there, hehe. But now we have Skate Talk Online, In The Loop, and Triple Flutz for the awesome comparison vids! I feel genuine delight at new videos, I literally get ready with snacks to enjoy these. :D
I'm not comparing or complaining at all. This is so fun! It's really exciting to watch these videos and appreciate these fantastic ladies. :D :D :D Thank you so much for your hard work editing and sharing your videos. :D I don't have many people to talk to about my hobby of watching figure skating so I'm really glad you are sharing your love for the sport. :D
I think, Elizaveta's lutz was big and had this sort of spring feeling? I noticed that the different athletes have different technique. The toe-pick backward entrance appears to be the style of Tuktamysheva and Kihira while the twisting motion on the ice is more of Miyahara and Zagitova's style. I remember one of the commentators of the JGP explaining in an email correspondence that the former helps with more height in the jump while the latter helps with the rotation, sort of. Could the body build of the skater be a factor as well? Both Samudurova and Elizaveta are from the same school but they have different technique.
I feel that out of the 6 bullet points, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva's lutz meet good take off landing, height and distance and effortless throughout. I am not sure how judges interpret good body position in the air. Creative entry and musicality are the areas where Elizaveta's jumps take the hits.
This comment just made my day! You are so sweet! :)
I totally agree about Elizaveta's bullet points! Her jumps are the definition of textbook, she just needs some creative choreo to fill in the gaps in her programs. Yuzuru Hanyu jumps in a similar way to Liza where he springs off of his toepick with practically zero pre-rotation!
Thanks again for sharing your love of the sport!
Koola was just opiniated troll and bully. This channel is so much better. Real figure skating is here.
Kasvini Muniandy i
ザギトワどう見てもアウトサイドじゃないやん
Liza❤️❤️❤️ and then Rika
Rika and Liza have the best Lutz! Kaori is one of my favourite skaters and she has a flutz, hence the edge calls. It's very hard to correct.
FYI: A flutz is a Lutz using an inside edge.
You did toe-pick yes for all but Zagitovaz, Samodurova and Mihara all drop onto right blade
Elizaveta always
why Rika's lutz is -1？😠
Seem that Lutz of Rika is a little but under rotate. Is that right? I noticed it at 1:08.
nah it's fully rotated her blade touched the ice straight
I know she is not their but her lutz was beautiful with so much height n distance it was Polina Truskaya from Russia
Nice video! Keep them coming. It is worthwhile to note that the technical panel did not call ! or e for any of the ladies' Lutz jumps. Thus, all of their outside edge was deemed sufficient. There is some aspect to technical judging that is escaping me. Some of the edges are far better than the others, but it is not reflected in the scoring. Maybe the judges were being more lenient during this specific competition. I would think that judging can never be completely exact. I think the judging was fair though.
You used 2 different lutzs of Zagi from 2 different presentations of Carmen. I am not sure about clear outside edge in neither one. It's rather a flat edge. The best is Liza's, then Rika's.
Well... I loved the clean and sincere Lutz edges from Rika Kihira and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, however in this video it was sooooooo clear the flutz edge of Alina Zagitova. So sad you were not fair enough to call it, even more her pre-rotation
Alina uses full blade assistance while jumping the lutz, which is clearly incorrect, I don't know what you were smoking cause that's not just toe pick
ザギトワの3Lutz+3Loopのセカンド回転不足じゃね？
あと紀平梨花さんの3Lutz+3Toeloopを-1つけたJ9は大丈夫？これでGOEマイナスつけるなら他の選手皆マイナスじゃん。
回転足りないですね。
ルッツもプレロテフルブレードですし。
Yeah no, you can play Alina's even slower using the speed setting on the video and it's a very obvious 1/2 take off full blade assist and while it's the best edge on a jump in a while it shallows out as she's jumping :(
Otherwise I really enjoy this video! I wish I could enjoy Alina's skating more but she's been given programs that I reaallyyyy haven't enjoyed, It does nothing for her speed or skills.
Liza will always have the best axel and lutz for me, I wish mishin fixed up the entries and step sequence because she has talent to the ears! And I desperatly need her to podium some more, she's an excellent jumper and so much speed and some fun routines and spins. I keep seeing people saying she's "old" and "looks heavy" but she keeps smashing everything. And her exhabition! Oh my god it set so many people off lol, I will miss it so much
Can someone tell me is it allowed to have 90° pre rotation or lutz and flip, or is it allowed to have 120° pre rotation, I can't find that on the internet?
Less than 90 degree prerotation for toe jumps and axels is textbook perfect. 180 degree prerotation is only allowed for loop and salchow. Currently all Eteri girls prerotate 180 degrees on toe jumps ("quad" girls prerotate even more, between 180 to 270 degrees) with forward entry to their jumps while the judges doesn't look into it is just sad. Example skaters with textbook jumps are Yuna Kim, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Karen Chen, Yuzuru Hanyu, Mikhail Kolyada, Nathan Chen, Jin Boyang, etc.
@@simpletruth5927 Thank you, I know that Eteri girls prerotate all they jumps to 180° I was just wondering how much prerotation is allowed on lutz and flip
@@irinamilojkovic3339 for Lutz and Flip it should essentially be none
@@benbailey159bb you know that that's impossible
@@irinamilojkovic3339 I said essentially none, not none. I.e. minimal
judge 9 ☞🐒🔥
Liza has texbook Luzt, without entry or others «helps». Liza is the queen of Lutzes.
LIZA! I love Rika but the height and distance and Liza's form while doing the Lutz is so beautiful. Such light toe pick. Clear outside edge. The ice coverage was wide and the height is amazing. Ladies division nowadays have such low heights on their jumps.
Holy cow! Rika Kihira rotates her textbook jumps so fast! Does anybody know her RPM? I read somewhere that Nathan Chen is the fastest among the men--hitting 440 RPMs during quads. But Rika, at least to my untrained eye (so please don't quote/attack me for this--I LOVE Nathan and I don't claim to be a physician) seems to be even faster than Nathan. Can someone confirm? Thank you. 😊 And of course, quality video content. So thank you, thank you! Rika and Tuktik are tied for me--with Rika edging Tuktik just a *little* bit because her rotations' speed blows my skates off!
Thank you so much for your input! Now I'm wondering about her RPM too... :)
My favorite lutz is yuna lutz i like her jump
Interesting you pick Rachmaninoff’s symphony no 2
:)
i mean when u say lutz i say kim yuna even thought you dont consider her in this video
Liza, but Rika has a good one, too. Too bad Rika isn’t doing it so far this season- injury?
Kaori(e) Judges no.4 +4
Liza☆ Judges no.4 +3
🤡🤡🤡
definitly the best technician is liza by far
Holy crap, I've never seen the problem with Alina's entry this clearly until now.
My favourite was Rika's, perhaps it's the camera angle, but I felt like her technique was most pure. I could see for the first time how a lutz physically works - she used to toe pick to propel herself UP not AROUND (and the spinning is from HITTING the ice at an angle and with momentum, not spinning on the toepick), whereas for the others it still looked like the way they use their toepick they could pre-rotate on an off day if their muscles were a bit tired. Rika's seem like she will never prerotate, she will just fall from not having enough momentum/muscle. :P Sorry, I'm just excited because I feel like I just learnt how lutz physics work watching that.
I do also like Liza's lutz for making the toepick look like it's just a light touch on the ice.
the technique is for juges, for us - the beauty of skating
If the judges fail to do their job, we as figure skating fans have to do it for them.
Туктамышева лучшая.
Liza TUKTAMYSHEVA 👍💪
Алина лучшая, самая красивая и прекрасная, этого никто не изменит!
@@ДальшеБольше-р7ж, все, даже знаменитые фигуристы говорят, что у неё очень хорошая техника) И, как у каждого фигуристка есть погрешности, просто человек, который смотрит на неё с 2017 года, знает, что техника у неё правильная, и на некоторых соревнованиях она делает ошибки. Ну в принципе как и все))
Ok sakato does NOT have an outside edge and neither does Alina anymore. Hers is a flat. Many of them also had forward takeoff
everybody knows that best lutz is eli;)
Коляда, кстати, прекрасно прыгает лутц.
Не кстати
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Why there is no video about a flip? Because Rika Kihira can't jump it properly?!
I haven't taken a look at Rika's flip, thanks for the idea! I'll check it out ASAP :)
And what exactly is wrong with Kihira's flip??
Nothing's wrong with her flip you troll
Her flip is as good as her lutz ahaha
she did perfect flips for her SP and her FS. LMAO. in fact, she has less pre rotation on her flip compared to her lutz.
textbook = Yuna kim
Zagitova has the worst lutz right now, in the womens field.... She basically pre rotate like hell!!!!!! And the jumping edge is sketchy as fuck
I think rika tech in the most clear on this jump, also liza has amazing lutz too!!! alina looks like UR!!
The best luzs is a yuna Kim plz... she’s luzt is a textbook:(
Kaori Flutzamoto
only lizas..
Eliza y Alina
Satoko Lze
talk too much, who is the world champion in the winter Olympics in this subject?
A flawed technique is still a flawed technique. While judges can go blind eye for some favourites we at least know the truth.
아사다 마오 플러츠때는 입을 꾹 다물고 있더니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ역시 일본애들 알아줘야돼
У Кихиры и Лизы очень хороший лутц, у Алины в первый раз ребро близкое к нейтральному было, второй раз очень хорошее. Вообще, заметила, что у Этери все лутц прыгают на определенной стороне катка, спиной к камерам, очень сложно в таком положении разглядеть ребро.
Rika and Liza
Туктамышева лучшая.