The Civil War Movie is Mediocre and Sucks Off the Left While Feigning Neutrality
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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2024
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I thought the Civil War movie was mostly boring, with decent grounded action and performances. I've seen quite a few reviewers say that it isn't political or something along these lines when it blatantly is. 
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It’s obvious most of these reviewers have not served in the military, do not have any experience in war fighting because their reviews are all based on childish superhero movies that they grew up on instead of being in a foreign country and being looked at and shot at just because you’re an American. This movie is just a movie however there is a major message in this movie and that is, war is really hell and it’s not something that we should glorify and it’s not something that we should ever hope for. Stop trying to analyze it like you’re watching some stupid superhero movie and analyze it like you’re watching the international news every day because the events in this movie might be closer than some of you naive souls think.
I'm assuming this is directed at me and sure the message of war is bad is what the movie wants to get across, but as a movie and not a documentary or something along those lines, it is really uncompelling. I'm not going to praise a movie for a message that everyone agrees with when there isn't really any nuance, explanations or character development. It doesn't even really serve as a warning since there is no clear cause or ideology associated with the war.
@@filthycasual69not you specifically. My comment resulted from numerous reviews that I’ve seen. I value anyone who takes the time to break down their experiences and feelings with movies they watch because we all have a right to do so.
Sometimes we active and former military guys are the worst reviewers as we tend to critically look at war movies based on our experiences and how we think things should have been portrayed and that’s not ok either.
Your review was as fair as the next one and I, like others see the value in the movie’s message while others don’t which is fine too.
Afterall, we’re chatting about a movie.
I appreciate you standing by your convictions as more Americans need to do the same. Thanks for letting me comment on your channel and keep up the great work!
@Corvetjoe1 thanks. And it sounds like you've served, so thanks for that too. I have a lot of family who've been or are currently military so I get where you're coming from, at least to some degree. I'm not sure how much control we have over the lens we view stuff through, especially the closer it hits to your own personal experiences. I think it's interesting though that it sounds like you've seen reviewers who, from what you said, it sounds like are glorifying it almost. I think that was literally the one clear message of the movie, was that it shouldn't be glorified. So that's kinda wild to me.
@@filthycasual69 you failed to mention there was a unit of boogaloo boys fighting the government. Not to be a jerk but I get the vibe the movie went over your head.
I dont find the message war is bad and journalists are good particularly deep. I've seen a lot of people, these comments included, say how deep it is but the most I get in response is that it's a warning to Americans.
Many people don't understand why the director decided to create a fictional alliance between California and Texas. The reason was that he didn't wanted the people to identify the rebels with the left or the right, he just wanted to show how a dangerous a polarized society is, and how fast everything can escape from our control. Many people that have live a civil war in their countries say that they didn't see it coming until it happened.
I like your username. And honestly I didn't even bother worrying about that because the world building was pretty much nonexistent anyway and that alliance wasn't really a big deal with everything else the movie lacked.
“Escape from our control”. You do realize that the left act fascistically, but they call it “Saving Democracy from the radical right wing”. You are basically swimming in your own bias, your own fascism, but as long as all the Authority that is currently in dominant power, says it isn’t fascism “THeN it’s not fAsCiSm”. You Leftist are the monsters you seek to destroy.
You guys pass all your Executive Orders to do what ever, but you call it “moral & sane, while Republicans /The Right are scared to fight it, muchless act Tyrannical when they are in power.
"The movie is political." It's a movie about a modern day civil war in America. How can it NOT be political??
I agree with you. The director and everyone else are the ones claiming it is apolitical.
It is apolitical. U don’t even know what each side stands for. Which is the whole point of the movie
On its face I agree.
@@Maury_au_Arcos It's not apolitical, you can tell what the perspective of each side is, just by watching a few scenes.
@@Maury_au_Arcosbut we kinda do. Did you even listen to this video?
Why did the president stay in Washington and hide under his desk? Why wasn't he at Mount Weather or somewhere?
WF had control of the areas around DC as well as the air.
Yea it seems like the loyalist forces were just a technicality mainly. The only air force and real military strength we saw was from the WF. I agree it's dumb he didn't retreat but I guess you can also infer it was just over.
@@ThatNickYouKnow4010 How do Texas and California defeat the U.S. Air Force, which no military on earth has been able to do since it formed in WWII. Who has control of the Navy? You could blockade California and Texas. I just don't get it. Did the National Guard join the bad guys? Did every U.S. soldier renounce their oath to protect the country from all enemies foreign and domestic?
I gotta go watch this damn thing.
Lol you asked way more questions than the movie ever intended to answer. At least thats how it seems to me.
I’ll be honest I watched it last night and I enjoyed the action for what it was. But the movie was super bland, all the journalists scenes were boring. Replace them with context as to why the country is at war would have been better. I’d rather be shown the atrocities then told about them in a car ride. And as a guy who does the occasional larp session at the flat range I can say all of the combat is a heavy larp. The biggest example is the way they got the president, there are tunnels out of the White House everywhere the idea that they killed him in the oval office is absurd.
Yea I think having the protagonists be deliberately neutral and just kind of an audience insert really hurts any emotional investment you could have gotten. Probably would've been better served going the war of the worlds route or something where you are in location A and need to get to family or whatever in location B.
Yea agree with the larping lol. It was pretty obvious they wanted the call of duty style climax
Omg I THOUGHT THE SAME THING!
Like they really tried to play us like there isn’t tunnels?!
No, the character were very well developed. The movie also explained why the Civil war happened. The US president turned into a tyrant dictator and Texas and California seceded from the union. Put their differences aside against a larger threat. Probably the second best movie of the year. We dont get real movies like this very often.
@@BirgerJarl-it5lz are you aware of the saying show don’t tell. They didn’t even really need to show a lot but instead of telling us the president had reporters killed on the White House lawn they can show the secret service executing them. Instead of having the president have 2 scenes show him being a tyrant. The president uses drones on his own people show an airman having regrets or second thoughts. It’s story telling.
@@BirgerJarl-it5lz if you wanted to watch Spider-Man’s girlfriend walk around with a sour look on her face THIS is the movie for you. your comment was more exciting than the movie.
easily the funniest thing about this was the texas-california alliance, talk about 2 states who would never work with each other lol
To be fair to the movie they both have declared themselves independent republics lol but the rest of the war is never even touched on so it's kinda moot anyway. I'm not sure how much any of the factions make sense if you start getting into food and resource distribution and all that which the movie has no interest in.
From what I understand The movie takes place in the future and both those states are massively invaded by illegal aliens at this time.
Was that stated somewhere because if there was a line in the movie indicating that I definitely did not hear it. They just kinda gloss over the current state of the factions and then it's never really relevant again.
Texas is being turned blue at warp speed, and from another perspective, neither state's population is ok with their current political situation. California is mob ruled by the useless eaters in the cities. Most blue states and swing states are that way
Why wouldn't it be Texas and Montana? I feel like those two states could take the whole country...
Maybe Texas, Arizona, Wyoming and Montana...
As a veteran the military tactics in the film was the funniest part of the movie
I've heard quite a bit of feedback similar to that. I thought it was dumb too but unless it's nakedly stupid, I don't usually feel comfortable commenting on it. Lol
lol veteran... did you fought in urban combat against same level opponent ? ,did you fought in ukraine ?
can you be specific?
@Cortesevasive There is no equal opponent to the U.S. military.
@@filthycasual69yes they flew an Apache in between buildings to take out an fortified fighting position risking a multimillion dollar asset that isn’t replaceable. One minute later they roll in two m1 Abrams that could have put a HEAT round or two into the postion; or, their JTAC could have called in fires from the Apache getting a hellfire put into that building.
Not one person knew what a machine gun is or what suppressing fire is. All 240s are mounted. Not one person in a team or squad is outfitted with a 203 or 320.
They opt for a frontal assault on the White House Front Lawn but show that motars exist in a scene prior. Literally 11c could have put 60mm on the front lawn prior to.
The Secret Service does a exfil with two suvs and a limo past two m1 Abrams. ROE states to kill not capture. But they don’t open up with the 110mm smoothbore to stop the vehicles from running?
Shit was horridly bad!
Oh my god… so the film doesn’t actually have substantive political discourse in it and it’s skewed? Skip. From Canada.
All of the reviews I've seen, even if they don't think it is skewed, seem to agree about there not being any political discourse and more of a focus on journalists in war.
Did it meet the DEI quotas?
For sure. Lol
I thought the movie was hilarious, but I was kind of just watching it whilst not really thinking about any messages or themes. However, the whole "journalism good" was just something you couldn't ignore. Loved D.C. battle aside from the final scene and Plemons scene. Had people leave the theater because of Plemons.
That's an interesting perspective. I'm glad you seemed to get more enjoyment out of it than I did
Any plans to review the fallout show? Thanks
I definitely want to. I've heard mostly good things. But I'm actually not super knowledgeable about the fallout lore. I played fallout 3 I think it was for a few hours like 10+ years ago
Seconded
I watched the first 2 episodes today. Digging it mostly so far but as a tv only person it's a bit hard to follow with all the jumping around
@@filthycasual69 awesome to hear, looking forward to your full coverage 🤟
I'm torn if I should try to do episode to episode or just full season
lame. was wondering if we actually got a based movie. probably illegal at this point.
I was shocked to see some of the critics say it should have been more political. It is super transparent to me what their thoughts were and who this criticism was directed at. Have to stick to eastern media if you want it based lol
The movie is Based
Last person to try make a based movie like this was found unalived with his whole immediate family, look up "the gray state" or "gray state"
Just watch it and make an opinion for yourself
The pop songs are obviously a modern take on vietnam war songs
They were pop songs back ion the day, its what the fighters would be listening to
Are you inferring that or did you hear it somewhere? I haven't heard a single person say anything along those lines. Even the people that like the movie just say it makes it feel eerie.
Jesus Christ, this comment section is demented 😂
I know right? Where is all the talk about the kid in the background who tripped on a brick?
You only see right wing paramilitaries and never the left wing/ urban guerillas like we saw in Portland
Yea thats what I was getting at when I was talking about how all the crazies are outside the cities and as far as we saw the cities were chilling
@@filthycasual69
If anything the cities will be the worst place to be
Yea I think the same thing. Just too many people in too small of spaces
@@filthycasual69
Once the food runs out and the water gets shut off, all those progressive ideals start looking real fickle
Did you see the "gardens" in the CHOP/CHAZ? they'll be fine. Lol.
Dude it's a movie about american society tearing itself apart through the horrors of war. Does it really matter whether the guys digging the mass grave are right or left?
We are seeing a lot of elements of fascism in hardcore far right American politics and in the movie the USA government is practicing elements of fascism so a lot of people are crying “the movie is political, it’s a lib circle jerk”. They are punching air because if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.
The video failed to mention they had a boogaloo boy unit in the movie who was also fighting the government. The government was going after EVERYONE in the movie regardless of political lines.
@@Bob-kk2vg It'd be cool if our gov was "practicing elements of fascism," but you have no idea what fascism is and thus the leftist circle-jerk continues.
You are what's called a "useful idiot." The media and politicians love you. You have literally no idea what's going on. Please stay away from voting booths.
Thanks in advance.
I've only seen the film once, but I don't recall hearing anything about the details of the Antifa massacre. So far as the movie left me to consider, Antifa could have been the killers just as easily as the victims. As a libertarian, trying to view it without siding with a particular team in the D/R sense, I thought it did a good job. My biggest issue, as I deal with in daily life as I have for the past 20+ years, is that the film doesn't identify any unifying philosophy against the current regime. Granted, a growing number of people are dissatisfied with the status quo, but they're divided by tangent issues: race, sex, class,...it only serves the unified elite. But goddamn if you can get people to actually read or even listen to the works of the Enlightenment period that trickled down to create the fire that birthed this great nation. I'd give my life to make this nation what it was meant to be. I just wish that it was that easy- and that modern Americans deserved the sacrifice.
Interesting perspective
Username checks out.
I’d describe myself as a far leftist and I thought the movie was completely mid.
Politics aside my opinion of the movie lowered a lot after I had more time to think about it. I made the video immediately after I saw it so I called it mediocre but I think now I'd just say bad. Lol
Also, just an observation, the guy from the gas station, that was hanging and torturing the looters, ready to carelessly execute them, was blatantly wearing both a Virgin Mary necklace and a cross necklace. Strange to show religious symbols in that scene for a non political movie…again…just an observation 😂
Good catch. I only watched the 1 time so I'm sure I missed stuff.
If they wanted a political neutral film they would do the sequel ww3 when Russia China North Korea and Iran invade taking advantage of the division, which is a real scenario aka red dawn. Honestly Alex garland should stick to doing 28 months later or whatever it’s going to be called a zombie movie with journalists sounds more interesting
I agree. Or just unnamed generic country. I think the movie is actually pretty bad and completely relying on people buying into this happening sooner rather than later.
You summed it up perfectly about The music during serious moments….
I see what they were trying to go for but missed the mark. Movie sucked and I wish I saw this review before I wasted my time.
Yea it was a letdown for sure, especially after all the critical hype. At least you know for certain now that you hated it 🙂 lol
@@filthycasual69 yup. Basically if you watched the trailer you watched the movie…. Still leaves you not knowing why the war started, what kicked it off, whether it was gov fighting gov or people fighting people, why is anyone taking pictures during the war if it is in fact a war. It has the name civil war yet is more along the lines of a quirky hippie road trip gone wrong
Lol I'd have said more along the lines of "journalists are heroes" but I think the hippe trip works as well. I think I could have even lived with not knowing anything about the war if they'd given a basic explanation of like group x can't survive without group y resources. Group y wants independence but x is trying to make them part of the same group in order to share resources. Nothing specific or crazy but give me something.
@@filthycasual69 yup. What Confused me the most is why the journalist were willing to risk their lives just to photograph graphic content? For what? And for who if that type of content has to be censored on the internet? Are these graphic images only to be seen on the dark web? Like what was the purpose of taking these kind of images…. Makes me think these journalists aim to look like heroes while having a sinister agenda
@DanceChickaDee I think it was also a huge mistake to never have them actually try to help anyone. They're standing there like "can you die a little slower so I can get more photos?" LOL.
And I wonder how much wartime journalism is a thing today with cell cameras everywhere and presumably cameras everywhere anyway.
I liked the Jesse scene. I have dreams like that.
Hes a good actor for sure. Probably the best part of the movie. The whole setup for the scene was idiotic though lol
I wonder if this movie will be pulled from theaters early like other newer movies have been.
I guess it'll largely depend on this opening weekend. $50 mil budget, so probably need to make about 150 to break even (assuming 25 mil for marketing) but I think that really depends on the drop off. American society of magical negros barely lasted 3 weeks. Lol
You mean when they stay in theaters just long enough to qualify for the Oscars?
I think the requirement is actually only like a week or something crazy low. Lol. But I've never really paid much attention to awards either so I could be totally wrong
I think the action scenes and cinematography are both amazing, but I don't think the story itself and the worldbuilding really compare to it. Ultimately it is a pretty average film held up by its visuals and action.
Honestly, I really wish Garland did a civil war in literally any other country then America. The Russian civil war had absolutely massive atrocities committed by both far right and far left groups between the whites and reds, and that would have been a truly horrifying experience knowing it actually happened.
I think that's pretty fair. All the surface level stuff is good. That could've been really interesting if he had done it in Russia or even just a made up alternate but similar earth.
@@filthycasual69 An Alternate earth would have been very interesting, and having two radical groups like communists or fascists committing atrocities would have been a truly solid civil war story that demonizes both sides for their inability to humanize the other.
Exactly and then your neutral journalist photographer can condemn both sides equally. I don't see why that is so hard. Lol
@@filthycasual69 You respond to the wrong guy?
No I was agreeing with you about having 2 radical groups and an alternate earth for a better story
10:00 is on point 😂 "It's a f***ing civil war." I'm definitely not a fan of the conservative white guy tropes. What the Antifa massacre was and who killed who was ambiguous. I think to a degree it was critical of journalists who also seemed unconcerned with humanity and more concerned with getting a quote, getting the picture etc. I thought the sniper scene was great, I thought that was the most elemental and apolitical scene. "No one's giving us orders man. Someone's trying to kill us. We are trying to kill them." The airstrikes on American citizens thing said about the president could have been an Obama comment. I don't think it's as partisan as you think it was but I liked your review.
I dont mind disagreeing at all. I keep hearing people say the antifa massacre thing was ambiguous but as far as I can tell/remember, typically massacres are named after the victims right? I.e. Boston massacre, Armenian genocide, etc. I would agree it was critical of journalists except Alex garland calls them the heroes of the movie in interviews. Lol. I posted the link in another comment somewhere on here. The sniper scene probably was the best scene and I thought about the drone strike thing too but I think I'm just so skeptical of Hollywood it's hard for me to give them the benefit of the doubt with anything. Rspecially when a few years ago, I started hearing further left people refer to Obama as right wing. Lol. But im not a mind reader so I could obviously be wrong. Politics aside, I actually think way less of it as a movie now than I did when I made this review too.
Speaking as one of those 'dangerous' leftists...I have to say my opinion of this movie is a solid 2 pineapples out of Meh. To me the whole thing felt like a film school students first try and had only two writers, both of which just spent their days saying "This scene needs more guns". 😂
Lol. My opinion of the movie has gotten worse the longer I've had to think about it. I agree it seems like it wanted to be pretentious and failed
Thank you for this video. I had a feeling when I first heard about it in the theater, that it was going to be politically driven and probably lean heavily to the left. I wasn't 100% sure, but most of the time when the movie industry pump something out it's heavily left leaning. After watching your video, I now know not to watch it as it is a complete waste of time. Thank you again
No problem. A lot of people would disagree with me though to give you fair warning lol
This was movie was horrible.
Been interesting seeing this audience sentiment so much after the critics loved it.
I have not watched it and probably won’t . I do find it ironic that the side that wants to take away the 2nd amendment rights is willing to let a movie go out that shows the 2nd amendment in action to their favor.
Also congratulations on the views on this one
Thanks very much. And politics is a fascinating thing to me. Depending on where you go and who you talk to, the other side always has power and is trying to strip away rights and become tyrannical. Obviously I don't discuss my own political views on the channel, but I do find it interesting regardless.
I definitely respect staying neutral in the media world . Sadly it’s for your own safety. I tend to to be more tea party my self and almost always vote 3ed party. Republicans and democrats alike have lost their way and do not follow with tradition anymore
@watret94 for me it's more about I don't want my channel to devolve into calling everything "woke" or neoliberal or whatever. I know that stuff is what gets subscribers though
@@filthycasual69 yeah I get that . For me it was not about your political views on something. I simply saw something I was interested in (halo at the time lol) and I like the way you put your opinion out there face value. Obviously you know I don’t watch all your stuff but I watch what interests me I will still click on your stuff to at least leave a like because I do like what your putting down
There's 13 minutes of my life I'll never get back...Talk about missing nearly every point the movie makes...Don't these guys do a little research before they start yapping...
The movie doesn't really make a point beyond war bad, journalists good. Not that much to say about it.
Good. Thanks to your comment, it’s now confirmed I shouldn’t finish this video. 20 seconds in and he’s saying “civil war” is a “far left” movie. I couldn’t stop laughing. How absurd. How preposterous.
Always good to not hear the points made and declare yourself correct.
Why don’t u guys form an argument that reinforces your opinion instead of giving vague insults? Ohhhh wait…
@@Euphoryaaawhat is preposterous about saying this is a Leftist good movie? You literally offer zero intelligent rebuttal
Good review 👍🏻
Thanks very much
I just watched it and it didn’t have much of a story nor character development. Ending also very predictable. It was a bunch of booms and bangs.
Yea it was just kinda wandering around in an alternate reality as far as story goes.
Good video and commentary on the movie. The movie was painfully bland and benign. I noticed the lefty bullshit, too. I shouldn’t have wasted my time and money on it, but the premise seemed interesting so I went. That’s two hours of my life I’ll never get back.
Thanks. Yea this is one I think where even the people who say they like it will never watch it again and forget about it in about a month.
War is supposed to be complicated, convoluted even, but not great storytelling. Great storytelling is simple but explores a complex, even complicated idea effectively. This film's storytelling is complicated and convoluted, while making the war itself and the President simplistic and hamfisted(ly leftwing). That is trash filmmaking/storytelling at its worst.
Yea I really wonder how much of the normal audience will come away with a similar take to this along the lines of "it's just boring."
@@filthycasual69 The more time goes by and when people feel it is "safe" to say so, they'll say so. People know deep down when they're watching a truly good movie or a truly bad one. This is truly bad. Full Metal Jacket knew how to be serious and satirical at the same time. Not only about war, but with its characters. This movie, again, is amateurish. Not even in comparisn, but period. It has no clue what it is while pretending otherwise. Glad you saw through it.
@@filthycasual69 BTW, I saw this in Grauman's Chinese theature in the heart of "Commifornia"/Hollywood, and the audience cheered. Brainwashing at its worst. SMH
I think I'd rather be right in the long run but there's no way to know if I will be or not. Lol
Agreed that the movie is made from the left's perspective, which is inevitable, since the writer director and most of the people in charge of creating the film are on the left. The effort was made to stay neutral, which is fine. The Jesse Plemons scene makes sense because there are literally people like that. Not a majority, not even a huge group, but enough that in a chaotic civil war, you're likely to run into them. Again, it's fine, nothing to get bent out of shape about.
And I'd counter the point about the ending being a leftist wetdream about killing Trump. I mean, yes, there are some extreme leftists who would love that. They're psychos. The movie doesn't paint the journalists as the moral authority, especially with how they act under combat, endangering others around them. They are shown as people devoted to their craft/occupation, at the expense of everything else, which can be call dedicated, but also selfish.
The "good guys" are clearly shown to commit warcrimes, and the killing at the end is not shown as a "yay good guys won!" moment, but rather a chilling scene lacking in humanity. If anything, it's showing that the "good guys" aren't good either.
I definitely get that if you WANT to get cheap culture war references out of it, you can. In fact, from both sides. If you want to take offense that you are being made fun of as a leftist, you can; if you want to take offense as a rightist, you can too.
I understand what you mean. As far as it being left bent because the creators are left wing, I would concede I don't know if they view their worldview as the norm or default or they were consciously like oh let's make sure we get this in here. Obviously I have no way of knowing.
I think I'd be more open to the idea of it being neutral if they made a point to portray left wing or the extreme left as bad in the way they do things associated with the right. They obviously have mindless gun violence, the brutal stuff is in small towns, the jesse plemons scene, all things associated with the right. They reference the massacre of antifa, which makes them sound like victims. If they had said something similar about a right wing group, id go ok theyre at least trying. The only peaceful places we see are cities like Pittsburgh and I cant remember where the refugee camp was but it was peaceful as well just displaced people. And the mindless violence, torture, and racist executions are in rural areas. You could say I'm reading too into it but broadly speaking, if you make a movie about a civil war in America, I assume you know cities are generally left wing and rural areas generally right.
And as far as the killing trump, that's why I said leftists instead of leftwing or democrats. But I know people just throw around labels. If it wasn't for everything else, i wouldnt have thought that necessarily. And I agree the journalists don't show any morals but the movie thinks they are heroes and Alex garland refers to them that way in interviews.
That final scene I could see interpreting it the way you did but when the main dude is smiling and celebrating getting his quote and all the journalists are celebrating its going to be an execution not arrest, I just didn't see it that way.
And I avoid culture war stuff as much as I can as long as it doesn't impact the story but I think this movie hinges on people thinking the culture war will turn into a civil war so it is unavoidable. If the movie was in a made up country, would anyone care about it? I expect people would be way less interested. I keep seeing people say if you want to view it as right wing you can but never really giving examples.
@@filthycasual69 Hmmm, the impression I got was that the journalists were clearly shown as morally gray AT BEST and that the whole celebration at executing the surrendering enemy leader really painted the western forces in a terrible light.
But if Garland himself said he saw the journalists as the heroes and that they were the moral center of the film, then yeah that's not good.
To be fair, garland he kinda talked out of both sides of his mouth. He refers to them as heroes but also says they deliberately didn't express views and functioned more as observers. I joked commenting on someone's stream that they should've just filmed it like Cloverfield because it wouldn't have made a difference but I kinda wonder if the movie would've been better for it. Lol
@@filthycasual69 That's kind of lame that he'd call them heroes. Kind of undermines the whole apolitical angle.
And I get that war journalists are some of the most courageous people and routinely get into dangerous situations, are wounded or are killed, all to document history. But the portrayal of some of them are really not honoring the profession.
@arthurchen6464 agree with that completely. Here is the link if you're interested. It's only a 7 minute short little interview.
ruclips.net/video/6KtLVN_zL_A/видео.htmlsi=ceMacwjPaZ3vkoln
“Sucks off the left” has to be the most closeted comment I’ve ever heard
What
He thought insinuating that im gay was clever and an insult . Apparently 7 other people agreed with him. Guess that means he's right and I'm wrong. Lol
@@filthycasual69 I don’t think you’re old enough to know if you are or not lmao
Based on these comments I'm older than you. Also I'm married. Another zinger from you. Good one.
@@filthycasual69 that poor woman
Quit saying " on the nose "
I find this comment a bit on the nose
@@filthycasual69 you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose , But you can't pick your friends' nose
Lol
I am planning to see the movie, even though I expect to see all the things you've mentioned. All the other reviews I have watched are glowing about how it isn't political, but I knew when I heard that, it was because the reviewer is clearly on the "acceptable" side and cannot see the bias that their thoughts reside in all day. Other than expecting some of the movie to make me cringe or maybe roll my eyes, I do want to see it so I can be informed to have conversations about the movie with all my friends and family.
Hopefully you all like it and maybe you'll see it the way the other reviewers did
@@filthycasual69 haha I doubt I won't see the same bias you mentioned. It is present in so many movies and shows these days.
Boring movie.
Yea really think it is depending on people buying into this being the future of America
designated survivor with more explody stuff, just as much propaganda and the timing is just as suspect
Interesting comparison. I've heard of that one but never watched it to know the details
I definitely do not see this movie as glorifying journalists. It basically shows them to be ammoral adrenaline junkies. As far as the political bent it really isnt that extreme. The only thing that did cross the line was the antifa massacre but even with that we arent explicitly told what that meant. Both sides are shown commiting war crimes throughout the movie. I felt like it was fairer than you are giving it credit for. Because the civil war itself was meant to be more of a set piece for the story around war journalists. Not leaving office after two terms is a lot different than not leaving after losing an election. Killing journalists is a characteristic of right wing and left wing dictatorships. Again i think this is seeing what you want to and i dont necessarily fault you for that.
That's fine if you don't agree but Alex garland does call the journalists the heroes of the story. I actually agree it makes them look sociopathic lol but I'm not sure it was deliberate.
As far as the politics, I will concede I assume all of Hollywood is left wing except for a handful of people like Clint Eastwood or whoever. But I think if it was any 1 or 2 of the things I mentioned, I would probably have just ignored it. But when it's a bunch and there wasn't anything that I would call right wing, I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt.
With Texas and California being semi-allied I was hoping for something a little less based on current politics.
The ending alone is why I won’t even bother. Sounds like a circle-jerk pleasure session for wannabe Journalists that view themselves as saviors.
You can dislike Trump by all means, he rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but this fantasizing about ending him all go the time is just totally unhinged garbage and I’m tired of it.
That pretty much sums up how I feel. I don't like any politicians but I wouldn't want them actually assassinated. And yea the movie is just fellating journalists the entire time about how important they are. And since they run in similar circles as critics, the critic reviews were pretty predictable.
@@filthycasual69Same. I feel like we’re getting caught up in a perpetually increasing cycle of insanity.
And it doesn't feel like the cycle is breaking anytime soon because people are making too much money off keeping it going. Unfortunately.
So why dont you make a better film? Of course your going to bring politics into it when your looking through a political lense. Try looking through a cinematic lense. Unless you think cinema is leftist ideology.
The Texas California connection puts it in the future for me. Texas is being turned blue by force, just like asheville nc was by the queens because they hated Jesse Helms.
Why were all the zoomers playing frisbee and hacky sacj in the refugee camp
Germans had pools
Movie was awful
Yea even just as a movie it's just not good
This movie is not "war bad journalists good". The journalist characters are in a lot of ways the least sympathetic. They treat this nasty conflict as a means to climb the social ladder or make beautiful art. They're careless, entitled, arrogant and still kind of badass though (until they get domed for making stupid choices). My takeaway was that these characters were the real reason for the conflict in the movie. They spent the last 10 years pumping everyone up to go kill each other.
Any "left-wing" bias in the film comes from the undeniable fact that most of the truly despicable actors in a modern US civil war would 100% be right-wing militias. The "left" in America is disorganized, unfocused and in no position to do any ethnic cleansing. Meanwhile, there are at least a half-dozen right-wing groups that openly brag about wanting to string up alphabet people and race-traitors from the nearest lamp-post.
I agree with you the journalists are portrayed as sociopathic in some ways. Alex garland refers to them as the heroes of the movie, so maybe that is just incompetence or you can attribute it to something else.
The rest of your comment I don't care to argue about here. I'm sure there are political channels where people would love to debate if the left or right is worse.
@@filthycasual69 don't do that. Don't act like I'm injecting politics into this discussion when you bring it up in the title of your video.
As far as the "journalists as heroes" argument goes, while I can't find anything where Garland specifically says that, I think what that would mean is that the characters are the protagonists of the story, not that they do anything particularly heroic. I seriously doubt the unlikability for the main characters is "incompetence" on Garland's part.
If you didn't like the movie that's one thing, it certainly has its flaws, but wanting it to be a different story is weird. Go write a better movie.
@theodoremcdonald9471 I didn't say you were but I don't discuss my own politics on my channel. I posted the interview in another comment somewhere in these a while ago where he refers to them as the heroes of the movie. I'm sure he is capable of differentiating between protagonists and heroes, so im taking him at his word. Also, in the movie the young girl refers to kiersten Dunst as her hero and a huge crux of the story is how brave they are for doing what they do and how important journalism is. So I think the intent is pretty clear within the movie as well as outside of it.
I don't want it to be a different movie, I wanted it to be a good movie, which I don't think it was.
I love the "go write your own" argument. As if no one can say bad movies are bad until they've written one.
@@filthycasual69 yeah, no.
First off you absolutely discuss your politics in this piece whether you realize it or not. I totally respect not wanting to get into a "left vs. right" debate here, but I brought it up within the context of the movie which, like it or not, is going to spill over into rl due to the subject matter.
And while I'm sure Garland said the journalists were the heroes or whatever, a closer reading of the actual material in the film is a much more layered and nuanced message. You're right that the characters themselves think they are brave and noble (and say it a lot) but even a novice media consumer can understand the difference between text and subtext. The protagonists are constantly making stupid, selfish choices and the only "heroics" they engage in are a pair of hollow self-sacrifices so that the rest of them can continue on their ill-conceived mission to get a scoop. A.G. has a proven body of work behind him so I'm confident this is not bad writing, but an intentional choice. The message to me is clear: journalism is in a rotten and dangerous state right now, and unchecked it will lead us into misery.
the "go write a better movie" barb was not a snarky attempt to invalidate your right to criticism. I think you are more interested in a story about the internal politics of a modern US conflict, as the main gripe you spoke about is the movie's lack of definition in that realm. You're obviously intelligent and can write a script and I would be interested in your more straightforward political content so feel free to link it and I'll subscribe to that channel.
Get ready to argue though.
@theodoremcdonald9471 I haven't seen all of his work but I really liked ex machina and have heard good things about 28 days later. People seem mixed on his other stuff from what I hear. It's interesting you're saying it's layered and deeper than I'm giving it credit for because i watched about a half dozen reviews from other youtubers before I watched the movie (which I normally don't do) but every single one talked about how they thought the movie really made it clear how important journalists really are and similar statements in that vein. This is kinda weird because I actually agree with your interpretation about the journalists in the movie but not that it was the movie's intent. The interviews I'm referring to are his with the AP and Jake's Takes (on youtube, both about 7 minutes). In the AP one he calls journalists as important as doctors and goes into great detail about their importance and his reverence for them. Maybe you're right and he is criticizing something he reveres (like Orwell with 1984) but I don't believe it to be the case.
As far as my own bias slipping in, maybe that's the case but in the majority of things I talk about media wise, I only talk about it to the extent I believe it impacts the movie. This movie, where he and it are both deliberately vague and believe it to be neutral was really the issue I had. If he had called it Trumps Civil War and had the proud boys as the villains, I honestly wouldn't have cared. Lol. Just as an aside, this and my Ladyballers video (the Dailywire movie) are my 2 most political I've done and last I checked, Ladyballers was my most disliked. (Might be Godzilla x Kong now). But I'd still concede I have my own beliefs and I'm sure they seep in sometimes.
As to what I'd do to change this movie, I actually think it's broken at the premise. He wanted neutral political journalists but then used the back drop of an American Civil War which is super divisive. If he wanted the politics to be neutral to focus on the journalists, I actually think that could be done fairly easily. For example, if you're going to use real political groups (antifa) just use one from each side. I.e. instead of the antifa massacre, describe an event where a right wing group and antifa were fighting in the streets and the president massacred both. He refers to the president as a fascist in his interviews (can't remember if it was in the movie). Have people refer to him as a fascist in some spots and commie in others. We had the Jesse plemons right wing anti immigrant racist character. Have one of the encounters where the group doing executions is doing it to people who were "in the 1%." Those are all choices that were made and were more my issue with people referring to it as "politically neutral." Obviously a lot of people disagree with me though. I don't mind.
I also think it might have been smart character wise and maybe even world building wise to have the journalists have actual opinions and disagree, but he avoided that at all costs.
Pretty awful.
Nice and concise.
The propaganda was painful.
It's depressing how many are oblivious to it. 😔
The movie is a leftist fantasy of themselves rising up to militarily destroy a fictional Trump presidential dictatorship and his fictional racist forces, but with a few things to try to throw a non-observant viewer off the scent. Here are just a couple of clues: 1/3of the way into the movie after the first fire fight on the wall of the building is painted a "W" with pastel "rainbow" colors. W is for woke as much as the "Western Alliance". Later in the movie during the attack on DC one of the female press said "we" (have the White House in our sights), meaning the press was aligned with the Western Alliance and not neutral. Western Forces are racially and gender diverse to a fault, and are meant to be the forces of diversity against the racists.
Scary how much the movie is going over people’s heads.
exactly 😂
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@@matthewm5581 the movie was sure as hell no apocalypse now but it did have a decent message about war and decent depictions of post traumatic disorder. It’s too bad people are too fixated on their political circle jerk to appreciate the movie
@@matthewm5581 p.s, check out 1984’s Red Dawn, it’d be more your speed/ up your alley*
I just thought it was a good movie lol. I didn’t really see any political “sucking off” either way. Just enjoy the film without getting into politics. And if you didn’t enjoy it, that’s fine.
I thought it was a bad movie regardless of politics but im glad you enjoyed it. Plenty of people seem to be.
@@filthycasual69 thanks man :)
Was anyone even looking forward to this movie?! Honestly I completely forgot it was a thing until now.
Lol I actually dunno how successful the marketing was. But the critics are lauding it and every review I've seen pop up on youtube today has been praising it highly and emphasizing how apolitical it is.
@@filthycasual69 the only I remember was Nerdrotic ripping the trailer a new one.
Maybe I go to the movies too often. I feel like I've seen that damn "what kinda American are you?" At every single movie I've been to for months
@@filthycasual69 the last movie I went to was Godzilla X Kong, and well, I think we can all agree that movie was a mess. I’m gonna try to go see the Spy X Family movie next weekend, other than that the only other movies I’m looking forward to are Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and maybe The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
@kaiju115 all 3 of those are on my list. Got early screening for ministry of ungentlemanly warfare Saturday. I'm really looking forward to spy x family. I love that manga.
I love comedy 🎭
Bummer I was looking forward to seeing it. Oh well Hollywood fails again
You should keep in mind I'm the minority. Lol. Every youtuber I've seen seemed to enjoy it.
I unno about some of the takeaways you brought back from the movie big chief. I feel like A24 put quite a bit of effort into making the characters bland and generic enough while also deliberately avoiding(to a detriment to the film sometimes) political takes that it left a whole lot of room for people to come out with their own opinion. The only real stances I ever saw taken in the movie were Journos good, which... yeah, I like having news as much as the next guy, and that war, particularly civil war is bad.
shocking take.
so shocking, that a group of 8 right wing gun nuts who went and saw the movie with me all walked away having a great time.
discussing it more with them, they all perceived the movie as a fun action suspense romp, and we all went in expecting it to be an anti-conservative hit piece.
I feel like the old talking point on good art really applies here - it should leave everyone who witnesses it with a different understanding of what it is and what it means.
solid movie, give it a solid 7/10, 9/10 if you go see it with nerds that you can talk about tactics and gear with 😂
That's cool you all enjoyed it. Politics aside, I just didn't think it was very good. The characters were essentially nothing and the world building was completely absent. It's good you were all able to enjoy it as an action movie though.
You sound like c*nt by the way you described people that bothered to go out with you.
Of course you don't agree with the takes, Look at how you talk about your supposed friends.
That is such a crazy commentary to make about the movie, damn. Are far gone you have to be to see all that in a movie that is simply trying to warn a nation AGAINST tribal thinking drifting into civil war ??
You are definitely "the sucker in the room." You're calling someone "crazy" for calling the sky "blue" - that's how obvious the propaganda was.
You should abstain from all political discourse because you are oblivious.
But you won't. You will continue thinking you're as perceptive as everyone else, your vote will count just as much as mine, America will continue falling off a cliff, and you will blame everyone but your dumbass.
"Children of Men" is still the gold standard of dystopian films, in my opinion.
Great movie. Lot of really cool long shots in action scenes too.
We saw different movies. They never even gave the cause or even discuss why certain factions decided to join forces. The director said during an interview that the cause had ZERO to do with the plot. And a leftist bent? LMFAO. My progressive daughter said the exact opposite on the way home last night. I guess if you view everything through the lens of politics it has to fall on one side or another. If anything this movie was a criticism of the media/corporate news, not of one political group or another.
I dont mind disagreeing. I don't see movies through a political lens, you're free to go through the rest of my channel. I generally avoid it as long as it doesn't impact the story.
I think it is interesting you viewed it as a critique of the mainstream media when the journalists were the heroes of the movie, which Alex garland has referred to them as.
The President elected himself for a 3rd term was the cause
The Right will find a way to feel attacked even in a movie like this that goes out of its way to be apolitical. Their persecution complex is foundational to their whole sense of identity
@@filthycasual69 > I don't see movies through a political lens
You just did tho
I talk about it as much as it's necessary to discuss the movie. The director deliberately picked arguably the most political setting he could to get the audience into theaters. If the movie wasn't about a civil war in America in the near future, no one would be talking about it. The movie doesn't really have anything to say beyond war bad, journalist good.
I made similar criticisms to the ladyballers movie created by dailywire. That movie was overtly political and preachy, so I said as much. All I can do is give my opinion on how I see it.
Do I have to watch this video?
_(I've liked this video, and made a comment, maybe two.)_ Because it seems to be a very American movie...
Peace out from Sweden 🇸🇪
Lol i think the stereotype would be that in Sweden both sides would be neutral still
@@filthycasual69 😂
I love listening to right-wing commentators talking about movies. It’s always so obvious that the film flew way over their heads, especially when they start complaining about diversity.
FJB
Took me a second to get this one. Lol. Must still be waking up
oh look, a retard
I actually expected it to push "the message" harder. Don't get me wrong, it did sprinkle it in here and there, and alluded to it in places, but it didn't push it as hard as I thought it would. There really wasn't much of a story at all. Journalist go on a road trip a few things happen, and then it ends. I was mostly bored. I never really cared about any of the characters, and none of the action (what little there is) made any sense. Everyone did stupid pointless things. DEI is well represented, as it will be here on out with American movies. Everyone does things that make no sense and made it hard to suspend disbelief. I just wanted it to end.
Totally agree with your take on it as a movie. I actually wonder if the "trying to be neutral" mentality actually kept the characters and world building from being interesting. It's also funny to me that the bar has fallen to "at least it didn't push the message THAT hard" lol. Nice drinker reference.
People should stop the DEI agenda because people actually get along and it's not white men's fault that black women need tons of hand outs and free jobs.
In 2020, I had to flee my home for three nights because violent rioters were burning my neighborhood down. It may seem to you like a civil war isn't very likely in our lifetimes, but some of us have already been living through it.
I'm really sorry you had to go through that. And I think it's unfortunate that our government at every level allows that type of thing to happen.
As far as a civil war 2 though, violence, riots and protests have been a part of our history since the Civil War. I don't think a full blown war like this movie portrays seems likely anytime soon.
Thr blm race hustling scam riots.
America's 2nd Civil war... Sjws vs Wendy's, foot locker, and small mom and pop stores.
Lmao nothing like the civil war, yet.
If you're going to make a movie about a civil war set in modern times in the US, how can it not really be at least somewhat based on similar circumstances to what we're facing now? You can have an issue with who the filmmakers have winning at the end, maybe you would have preferred the Trump-like character come out victorious, but I can't fault them for using current issues for inspiration. With conflict, they're going to pick a winner. They chose one. It's clear based on comments you make throughout the video cracking on the casting of the journalist as a nod to "diversity", blah blah blah...Dude just say you wish the MAGAs had won in the movie and been made to be the good guys and you would have liked it better
It wouldn't have made the movie any better. Lol. The characters and world building are completely empty. And I wouldn't have been annoyed if it was overtly political. If it was a good movie but i didnt like the politics, i would just say that. I don't like that the filmmakers and everyone else is claiming it is "politically neutral" when it clearly isn't.
Texas and California being on the same side hmm makes sense lol
Lol yea theyre both "independent republics" to be fair to the movie but they don't explore the world building at all anyway.
their economy are very big makes sense why they would join forces. and texas is on track to turn blue
It was a boring snoozefest. I had to force myself to stay to the end. I loved Ex Machina, but Alex Garland was out of his depth with this. He says this is going to be his last directorial effort. I think it's for the best.
Same. Ex machina was great.
I felt the same way. Was relieved when it ended.
Movie was ass.. first movie ive ever walked out of for being boring af
Damn that's a negative review. Lol
I've seen a few clips and can't understand how it's so highly rated. I mean, maybe the overall story is good, but the individual scenes seem really lackluster. It just seems like one of those B movies where everything is sort of evenly mediocre. Mediocre cinematography, audio, acting, lighting/grading, CG... there's no passion or real creative vision to any of the scenes I've watched. Which is weird, because the writer/director was behind Annihilation and Ex Machina, which were both great films. So I don't really understand how this falls so flat by comparison.
Yea the idea of the story is fine but then it was scared to tell one. I think everyone is just praising it because of the concept and they think it's reflective of the near future. I really like ex machina as well. Annihilation I kinda liked but it got real weird. I think I'd need to see it again to have a stronger opinion.
I could have told you this without needing to have seen it dawg, but thanks for your sacrifice
I wasnt super surprised but obviously have to watch it myself to confirm. Especially when every other review I saw praised the apolitical aspect of it
nice
Thanks?
I believe it was Brandon Herrera who said before the movie even released that it would end up being little more than a blatantly biased political piece. From what i've seen here he is completely correct. It's gonna be fun though to watch 2Atubers break down all the inaccuracies of the weapons,clothes,etc. That would have been done right through 5 minutes of google searches.
I've heard of him but not familiar with him really. It always fascinates me when these movies cost 10s to 100s of millions and they have advisors on set and just get simple things wrong.
I hope you get over 100,000 views by next week. I'm sharing this everywhere I can.
Thanks very much. I'm happy just to get a couple thousand honestly. Lol. It was cool when my godzilla minus one video hit 20K though.
Just subscribed to your channel. Thank you! This is the only channel that’s actually sees the directors bias.
Thanks very much. To be fair to the other reviewers, if you have 0 interest in culture war garbage or politics, I think the movie does disguise its bias well on a surface level.
@@filthycasual69 my only thing, did you see or mention about the Pacific Northwest Maoist resistance? They were mentioned by the reporter that got killed as they were driving.
I didnt say anything about it because they mention them but then nothing else about them so I didn't really have anything to say. Might as well have been called group 6 or whatever. Lol
you only subscribed to this channel because you're a right wing retard like this guy
Very accurate review
I guess you've seen it. How did you enjoy it?
@@filthycasual69 commie snoozfest
@@filthycasual69 RUclips won't let me say
Lol that's a funny summary
I believe this is a joke? Nice.
I must have seen a different movie. Disagree completely.
That's cool. I don't mind. Plenty of people, even in these comments, would be on your side.
Nailed it this movie sucked
You said it much more concisely than I did. Lol
nobody cares what you think
@Braden366 could say the same to you especially with a name like braden meddleton
I wouldn't bother engaging with him. He went through like a dozen comments on this video calling anyone who agreed with me retarded and when I tried to engage with him normally he just kept calling me a right wing retard with a low subscriber count. Lol. But you're free to do as you like obviously.
@@Pyncont oh look, a clown who can't think of anything good to say
my comment
Thanks
Movie sucks ass. It's about a journalist. End of story.
Seems a lot more people are having this take.
@@filthycasual69 I need a refund from the movie theaters😅
Lol there's been a few I've felt that way about for sure.
@@Christmode. your opinion is ass lol
_Children of Men_ is the far superior film.
Yea that was a great movie
@filthycasual69 wasn't Children of Men leftist anti-capitalist movie, though? Poor people fighting each other when rich and powerful still had fun till end of their old days.
I wouldn't call something that base level political. I guess you could though. Maybe you could call it conservative because it's about the importance of women having kids? Lol. I try to avoid inserting politics as much as I can
@@jakubb9498 Would you reject it just because it's accurate? When left-wing societal commentary is accurate, it's accurate. What kind of right-winger would you be if you rejected something that's accurate just because it disagrees with your wishful thinking about capitalism? 🤣🤣🤣
I’m on the right, this movie doesn’t push left or right. My prediction in a real civil war there will be many different factions and war will be over ideology, race, etc. Biden could also remain in power to protect “democracy”.
Its cool we don't agree but I definitely agree it would be a cluster. Not that I want it to happen but it would be interesting to see what factions form
Agreed, pretty mediocre. The only saving grace is it isn’t annoyingly in your face liberal. If you go with the mind set of just watching some action it’s ok. But yea if you think about it it’s super lib, I had to force myself not to think. The lack of world building and character development was pretty bad.
Yea thats why I said I think it really hinges on the current culture to have meaning because the characters and script don't really give the story any meaning. Too bad. Could've been an interesting premise.
In real life I don’t think there would a soldier I know that would fight against Americas gun freedom and freedom loving Americans. They would have to bring in the blue hats.. and we would be getting down! God bless America trump 2024
I'd like to think so but it's happened forever and I assume will continue to sadly
I figured that this movie would be exactly as you describe it. I believe that there was a lot of post-filming editing in an attempt to make this movie look less obviously anti-Trump. Many of the movie reviews are by leftists who mistakenly believe that they are somehow in the political center. Therefore, everything that happens in this movie fits their world view. I am going to see this movie tonight. I am pretty sure that my opinion will be similar to yours but I will reserve judgement until then. The only thing I disagree with in your interview is that we are a lot closer to a civil war than you think we are. Would it be like the first one? No. It would be more like Sarajevo, the Troubles in Ireland, or in the worst case, something like the Spanish Civil War (politically similar to what's going on the USA today).
Maybe you'll like it more than I did. I definitely agree, I think a lot of the reviews are either by people who are apolitical or sort of the default left type. The actual leftists like grace Randolph seem to hate it for not being overt enough. Lol.
And I think that is fair, maybe I'm being naive or overly optimistic. Hopefully it doesn't end up like the first one if it does happen.
@@filthycasual69 Just got back from the movie. It was exactly as you described it and how I thought it would be. Anybody with an ounce of political acumen could see all the clues that this was anti-Trump and pro-leftist. Anyhow, I thought the movie sucked and the combat scenes were ok but you could tell that a lot of this script was written before the Ukraine war as drones played no part in it. The portrayal of these wartime journalists did them no favors.
Well its too bad you didn't enjoy it after spending time and money but yea its pretty transparent and the lack of world building and character really kills any emotional investment
@@filthycasual69 It's a disappointing. I've seen a couple of other A24 movies and I've liked their originality and character development. This movie did a very poor job of that. The only character I liked was the old journalist and I liked the town that refused to participate. That's about all.
@jl696 that's kinda funny since the town is framed negatively in the movie lol. But yea I heard iron claw was good and I really liked everything everywhere all at once
Choosing California and Texas Is a brilliant move because you can’t call It off as a liberal propaganda movie or a republican propaganda movie. You don’t know anything about the presidents political stance neither. It makes the movie watchable for every american no matter your political stance. The conclusion Is that no matter where you come from civil war Is hell for everyone. Its uniting all sides on the political map around that fact. A masterpiece and a true anti war movie.
That's cool you enjoyed it. I think the concept could have been interesting but the world building was pretty non existent. I made this right after I saw the movie and thought it was okay but the longer time has gone on, I think it's actually a bad movie relying almost solely on the fact that people think we are on the way towards a civil war. But to each their own, plenty of people really liked it.
I never comment or like videos, but you hit the nail on the head. I as well feel like I am taking crazy pills with how much the so called “critics” are cumin over a24 per usual.
You earned the subscription my friend, I look forward to the rest of your catalog.
these “critics” can be referred to as Film Bros as well, as you described they’ll glaze a studio or movie because of small stuff like actors, writers, how stuff was filmed etc. find it funny that they’ll eat up what other critics say but not the general public, saying this because ik a film bro and whenever i say i care more about the audience reviews than some fck off critic they get mad lmao
Thanks very much. I said it in this video but I'll just reiterate that if you are wanting a culture war type channel like nerdrotic or someone I'm probably not it. Just don't want you to be mislead because this one is a bit of an outlier for me.
I always find it interesting when there's a huge contrast between audience and critics. I think it tends to either be a weird mixture of politics and pretensiousness.
@@whygodwhy1388 I think all of us who feel this way have a film bro in our lives, myself included.
@@filthycasual69 Yeah, no, I am not into culture war type channels, I simply enjoyed the honesty of this review and that is something that likely will not change based on the video topic. A diamond in the rough for lack of better examples.
This was a lame review no energy it sounds like your about to fall asleep
Alright well thanks for the feedback. Might just be my voice though. Lol.
Sucks off the left 🤣🤣
Lol I actually wanted to say "Fellates" but youtube has stopped me sending super chats like that before so I figured they might have a filter for it.
The Antifa Massacres..... yeah you can tell what side this movie takes. Alex Garland is so full of shit.
Apparently he's said some pretty far left stuff in real life as well.
@@filthycasual69shock and horror.
Didn’t specify who was doing the massacre. It could have been that antifa massacred people. Don’t people like you think that the country is in ruin because of them?
Yes I understand that it was deliberately vague. Maybe I'm misremembering but isn't it usually the victims that events like that are named after? Armenian genocide, Boston massacre, Tulsa race massacre, etc. I'm not sure what you mean by people like me, but I don't like any group that promotes violence routinely.
@@filthycasual69 not directed at you. it is interesting, Im from the other Portland (Maine) and we have to deal with nazis aggravating the public.🤔
Clearly, you do not respond to insults, you deserve every single one of them. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am surprised that you have 600 subscribers considering the poor quality of your content..
Before I go, a movie about journalists is an absolutely *NO-WATCH-FILM* in my book.
Cya
Lol fair enough. Although there are some good ones out there. But seemingly few and far between and many of them independent now.
Yea it was kinda a lousy movie.
Yea a real shame they wasted what could have been an interesting premise.
dont let bro ever cook again
A sniper with yellow/purple/pink hair and nails??? Really??? LMFAO Those are awesome camouflage colors if the war is being fought in an icecream shop or at Chuck E' Cheese. SMFH
Lol I saw it but by the time I was done talking about everything else I was like eh forget it
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@@filthycasual69 🤡 Why so ssssSERIUSssUH! 😂
Lol. Can't read that in not heath ledgers voice
This movie was 🚮 I can’t believe I wasted my time
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Every single review I've seen on youtube is praising it and calling it apolitical except me. Lol
@@filthycasual69then maybe think about it longer and consider if maybe you’re the one who’s being biased
I'll call things how I see them and if someone can explain to me why I'm wrong I'll change my mind.
@@filthycasual69 then when it shows that nobody cares for your opinion lol
The wording on this confuses me. When it shows that I'm wrong, no one will care about my opinion? Is that what you mean?
Yall are looking into the movie too much just enjoy the action scenes
I'm glad you enjoyed it
Boring movie all they did was try on clothes for half the movie
aw man are you just looking for shit to be upset about? not everything is the result of some wild liberal obsession with trump. Garland said he easily could have made this take place in England and was talking about Boris Johnson. and even if the movie was alluding to trump, what of it? We all saw how quickly one flashpoint incident can incite huge numbers of people in 2020, between that and jan6 it is a fair assumption that the premise of the movie is very realistic.
Good combat photo journalists are badass, they arent the anchors parroting the talking points from the parent company execs, so it seems like a stretch for you to find issue with that as some liberal thing. I am sure if you look up statistics, rural whites possess most of the firearms, hence why all of the more rural people they came across just so happened to be white. Wagner Moura and Stephen McKinley werent woke quota caster , they are good actors. Your opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I got the impression you were overthinking. Thanks for the review though!
I don't mind that we disagree. If this movie was in a vacuum I think I'd almost certainly agree with you. But I think it's pretty fair to say that Hollywood promotes politics in one direction so im definitely beyond the point of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Plenty of people agree with you on my take though, even in this comment section. Lol. It's cool
This was a great review.
Thanks very much. I do prefer to avoid culture war/politics as much as I can though. Unfortunately it's bleeding into seemingly everything.
A civil war in the US would not likely be this organized. I do think it’s possible that we see what could be defined as a civil war in our lifetime and I’m 55+. You just have to realize what conditions enable a civil war and it is when law enforcement cannot or will not effectively enforce the law on a widespread basis.
There are already cities that aren’t enforcing the law. New York will catch and release violent criminals but they will pursue political witch-hunts with extreme voracity.
There’s a tipping point where a large enough percentage of the population no longer respects law enforcement and finds the risk of being prosecuted for vigilantism to be low enough that it is no longer a barrier to actions that they feel are necessary, justified, or warranted.
Local law enforcement agencies are losing long-time, experienced officers and replacing them (if they can replace them) with lower-quality personnel that either don’t or can’t elicit the same degree of professional respect as more experienced officers could. They often do stupid things that cause mistrust and hostility from the communities they serve. Many police departments seem to have forgotten that they NEED the help of the public do effectively perform their jobs because they espouse tactics that are irresponsible and seem to devalue the lives of civilians: no-knock raids, shooting residents in their homes during “welfare checks”, performing unconstitutional searches and seizures…. It seems that the police are often more dangerous to the public than criminals - partly because the cops’ tactics place you into untenable situations where you are forced to endanger your family and yourself by having to second-guess self-defense decisions.
I wake up at 3 a.m. to hear my door being kicked in along with a discordant mix of yelling and see flashlights swinging around. I’m not a criminal, so I shouldn’t expect cops to unconstitutionally break into my house at 3 a.m. I reach for my pistol but then realize that if for some unknown reason it is the cops, I will be shot multiple times because that’s how they neutralize “a threat”. But if it isn’t the cops and they come into my room and shoot me, my family is helpless. So I’m in a no-win situation because of the unconstitutional actions of police. If I can be assured that I will be given ample opportunity to comply with the police then I will not face such a quandary. But they don’t seem to really want compliance by following the tactics of a hit squad instead of law enforcement officers that took an oath to uphold the constitution.
When the police are a risk to the public but not to criminals who they just release to victimize more people, there may come a point where the cops are actually a detriment to justice instead of a benefit and that’s when they will be forced to stand aside while vigilante justice takes place or they will be removed from the way.
I'm not saying it's impossible. And I know there's a lot of screwed up stuff going on right now, including the issues with policing you mentioned. I guess I'd just say I think most people are ok to sit at home online and whine but when push comes to shove, I'm not sure if enough people would actually be willing to engage in conflict like this. But I understand it only takes one incident at the right time for people to go crazy.
The Ghille suit with bright bluish yellow hair cracks me up lmao
Lol i actually noticed that too but by the time I was done with everything else I was like screw it ill ignore that one.
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Hey man! I’ll check this out after I watch the movie because I’m somewhat interested. I look forward to giving this a full watch
Capitol O Opinions did a pretty in depth livestream on more of the movie side if you are interested. A lot of the non critic consensus seems to be its just boring lol. Drinker did a video too that I mostly agree with.
The movie was about a fucking CIVIL WAR! That's literally the definition of political. What a trash take.
This was a trash movie. If a 15 year old wrote it I'd be impressed. Look up the original Civil War that actually happened. Even look up civil wars in other countries, including the very complicated ones where there aren't two distinct clear sides. There's still a clear context as to why the war started, and a thematic purpose for fighting the war regardless of sides, and how complicated the war gets. And yes, War IS complicated, but not great STORYTELLING. This movie is convoluted trash, while the war and President are simply ramedial in scope! There's no real story here. No real point. Great stories always have a clear point, especially while exploring a complex subject. This film sucks at it.
If the movie wanted neutrality, like it claims, they could have made it about a couple of extreme factions that 99% of people don't like. I.e. communists vs fascists or whatever. They also could have stuck it in another country. If the focus was journalism, they could have picked a fictional place to make them the focus. There are politics in movies all the time that I would call neutral. The empire in star wars is vaguely authoritarian, which 99% of people agree is bad. Voldemort is a racial supremacist, which 99% of people agree is bad.
I agree it was a middling movie where the world building and characters left a lot to be desired and made the emotional investment almost none.
For a war movie there wasn’t a lot of war just a lot of monotoned conversation
Civil war don't require a political drive, only an ideological difference. The nature of that difference can breed from anything.