@@subetai17 yeah I probably did. Don’t know when to shut up do I. Time stamps available to jump to the interesting bits. Thanks for checking it out subetai appreciate it
@@subetai17 jog on I would of enjoyed a video double the length, no one in the comments agrees with you.It was a great video,I know a fair bit about the stid and didn't find it repetitive,annoying or anything like that.Its was great.
The absolute best way to describe the River Strid, its a canyon. Look at Antelope Canyon for example. It's the exact same shape and will still fill up occasionally. Only difference is the Strid doesn't dry up
@Yeah, I said it not to mention, its probably a lot deeper than he can measure. That thing only reads depth in a strait line. I know for fact, that there has to be an overhang or two closer to the bottom where the water is most turbulent
@Yeah, I said it would still be absolutely as difficult as mapping something can be though. Looooots of background noise that will mess up any imaging sonar. I think itd be cool to build a submersible that maps using close proximity sonar, so that there'd be less interference
@Yeah, I said it i like where your brain is going! So sonar is really interesting. Lower hz sonar is used for low resolution and longer distance and isnt as claer. Higher hz sonar is better for high resolution and up close, as there are more soundwaves reflecting back to the detector. Problem is high hz sonar is really sensitive to bg noise unless you have some kick ass military grade software and hardware to help muddle through the noise.
I'm gonna go one step further and bring up Spooky Slot Canyon where my family calls it the nipple grinder for how narrow it is. The most terrifying part though is looking up after a recent rain to see where the last waterline was some 30 feet above your head and above that is a very battered looking log wedged some 40-50 feet above the floor. River Strad is a slot canyon, don't fuck with slot canyons full of water.
It's terrifying, particularly when it looks like a quaint little shallow stream which you could skinny dip in to cool off on a hot sunny day. I bet the Strid has lured thousands to their deaths over the centuries.
I use to be a sailor, (I don't know why) but water has always terrorfied me. You never know what's in it, or what the water hides until you get sucked into it. I don't trust any body of water.
The great lakes are like that. Since they're not salt water people don't think they're dangerous and every year some poor idiot washes up on a beach after falling from a pier or not realizing how very deadly the under tow is.
@@shanepatrick4534 happened a month ago in conneaut lake erie, people dont realize there's more shipwrecks and stuff on lake erie and the other lakes than any other body of water on the planet
@@shanepatrick4534 that’s how it used to be for locals like me around Mt. Hood between my experience of 1998-2010 when every year we would have a local news watch of at least 2-5 dead because they underrated the mountain and didn’t bring a GPS. It got to the point where as a child I would feel no pity at all. You respect the water. You respect the mountain... no matter the appearance.
It would be so cool to do a LIDAR Scan under the water there so we could see how complex the underwater cave systems are. Cheers, from Corvallis, Oregon. 👍🏻
@Thomas Shannon how is it bad..... do you know how amazing it would look down there............ you obviously have never had someone to show you the right way, except the right way of others. Still think if I had a different a not of live would have turned out diff if had my Millionaire always have always will
This is incredible. It is mind boggling to me that it goes that deep. If I were on top of a roof at 65 meters up. I'd have the shakes looking down. Yet people are just walking along the edge of the rocks like theres not a giant chasm below them. Funny how visuals work (meaning since we cant see it, it doesn't seem scary).
@@THISISLolesh if it's not that deep then where is the volume of the water? It's clearly not in the width of the river. It's geologically straightforward for it to be a flooded slot canyon with such depth.
It’s basically an underwater water fall that pulls you into its basin of caves. Be safe and god bless you for making these videos, I’m sure your saving people with these videos
I have never heard of The Strid before, and I found it absolutely fascinating! This is an exceptionally well made video and I loved the drone footage! I hail from Tampa, Florida, USA.
Folks, please note that “The Strid” is just a small section of the River Wharfe, in Wharfedale, Yorkshire. It is not the River Strid which seems to be a source of confusion judging by many of the comments here. This interesting video was done when the water level was relatively low, but even I would think twice (and more) before trying to jump across its most dangerous parts. We live in Burley-in-Wharfedale, just a little downstream of the Strid and have visited it numerous times to photograph the area throughout the year as the season and water conditions change. There’s no doubting that in flood it looks particularly dangerous so it’s easy to appreciate the risks, but when it’s summertime it looks like a little stream with nothing to indicate the danger except for the numerous warning/danger notices in the area.
@@Vespyr_ Its probably all of the above alongside some other reasons, so I can’t claim to know the precise answer, but I do agree with your suggestions. If you walk upstream of the Strid the river Wharfe is quite a lot wider than than the Strid, and the same holds true for the downstream as well. It suggests that there’s more going on in the Strid for it to be narrowed on the surface. If The upstream water has to go somewhere to allow for the conditions we observe - the Strid’s surface water is considerably faster than the up/downstream area which would support your thoughts about speed/depth/turbulence, the latter being possibly the hardest bit to deal with. If you are in the area during spring to autumn after a local rainstorm has fallen upstream, the power of the water passing through the Strid, is quite an awesome sight. Unfortunately those that die trying to jump across the narrow parts tend to be tourists that ignore the warning signs and they only see a small stream that looks appealing to cool off in (yes, we do see sunshine in Yorkshire, lol), but they don’t appreciate just how strong the current/undertow/turbulence/depth is, nor do they appreciate the danger until too late. I suspect that as it’s in an area of limestone strata that, as with other limestone areas (the North Riding of Yorkshire has lots), that there’s plenty of underwater overhang’s, which, coupled with fast flow and turbulence, it’s going to make death by drowning far more likely (the turbulence/& associated bubbles won’t make it easy to swim to safety). Add in these possible complications and the likelihood of survival that much harder eg fast flow/overhang’s water power making impacting the head on the rocks highly likely. When a body is recovered, usually a bit further downstream, it’s difficult to assess the precise cause due to all the marks, bruises and extensive damage, resulting in it being listed as “death by drowning”. Sorry for the length of my comment but hopefully it helps with understanding the situation? I didn’t want to just answer your question with some trite response such as “a combo of all of the above plus drowning” as it doesn’t help. It’s a pity that there’s no way to add photos/videos to accompany a comment as I’m sure it would show both the beauty of the area alongside the hidden danger of the area!
@@Vespyr_ Just spotted that Jack a Snacks has released a couple of newer Strid videos, and there’s one RUclipsr (MrBallen) that’s watching! Already hooked on these new videos which, TBH, show some of the reasons why jumping/swimming in the Strid is a shoe in for those that would like a posthumous Darwin Award!
@@Vespyr_ If underneath looks anything like slot canyons the danger is a hidden blender ready to bash you against the walls with highly turbulent waters until you're a nice puree.
A few years ago people dropped a load of plastic balls in to track the route underground, non of the balls were ever seen again after they went into an underground cave system... this place is amazing and deadly
I remember walking past this not realising how deep it was until I read a warning sign and an information board with illustrations of the geology of the river nearby. When I googled it after my walk, it gave me shudders. It stuck in my head for days. In parts it looked so calm and almost inviting. Without that warning sign I would have been none the wiser. It’s terrifying yet it’s beautiful and inviting- almost like it’s trying to trick you 😅.
@@captainsquiggles5958 Basically a metre is equivalent to 3ft 3 inches. So times by 3 - and if it's a big number add on a bit for every set of 3" making up another foot. So 4 metres = 13 feet. (I'm British and we think in both metres and feet and inches).
You an absolute legend,I wanted to know this for years,I search for new strid videos every week ,so when I saw this today I couldn't beleive it .Thanks.Hope you get enough likes to put some ads on you deserve it.
Hey Rich no problem. Was great fun to go visit was my first time there so wasn’t a trouble at all. I have also followed strid videos for about a year now and read through comments of lots of suggestions for experiments. I figured I’d give this a shot! Good to see you here
@@jackasnacks thanks Jack,14.5 double decker busses,I will do my own video too one day.I had the idea to get a big weight on a rod ,one that can sink quick enough to avoid the current and measure the depth.Also wanted to put a life jacket on a manikin, people had issue with the littering aspect.However a one off is well worth it.We need to know.Can alway retrieve it downstream if possible.
It is terrifying seeing those ferocious eddies coming up and dispersing against the direction of flow in the turbulent area, almost like there is an upward draft of water. It is basically a washing machine for a depth of over 60 meters. I was always skeptical seeing other vids on this but this shows just why it is so dangerous. Awesome.
Even the best transducers, mounted on fishing boats, give inaccurate readings when bubbles are allowed to form. The trouble you had, in the beginning, getting consistent readings, could have been mitigated by allowing the transducer to "free float" down the stream. This would allow constant vertical orientation, which is very key.
Someone else made the point that the sonar he's using has a gyroscopic nature to it so that it always maintains vertical orientation inside the ball housing.
Also, the cone it's measuring in isn't laser beam narrow. Trying to use a sonar close to a near vertical feature like that is fairly pointless, it will get confusing readings off the sides.
@@llYossarian depends. Sometimes, the echo can reflect at a shallow angle off more than one surface and take a longer route back to the sonar, giving a false deep reading.
I actually work at a college that is up a 200ft Hill. To think that this river is as deep as the hill i work on is tall is truly a terrifying thought. You're brave for staying at that spot so close to the edge after seeing that reading come up. I would have gone back immediately lol
@@filipferencak2717 I don't have to measure anything, you can tell visually from the flow rate and from the water height over the rapids section. There is not that much water moving through the river. If the river has any depth the parts deeper than a meter or so are not moving at all.
Tom Scott did a video about The Strid and the algorithm pointed me here afterward, so you're definitely doing something right there since he has over 4m subscribers and your video is easily the same quality!
Thannks a lot Dale i appreciate it! Good to hear that it is recommended after Tom Scotts! Hopefully people manage to find the answers ayou tend to have after watching his video
@@jackasnacks I didn't watch past half way because a hardware unboxed charity stream came on and I was literally passing out, so I left it on for the view for them. I still learned a bunch more and answered most of my questions. I really need to start actually making content regularly for my own channel but my health has been extremely demotivating recently. Always doing research though! Keep it up dude
The way that water roils by the falls.. I've seen waterfalls before, but that almost convective movement of the water is insanely powerful.. just wow .. It makes sense that it's the deep there.. it's been hit with a pressure washer for ages.. it's been blasting the bottom of the falls away..
Just for reference... the Statue of Liberty is 93 metres tall, the statue of Christ in Rio de Janeiro is 38 metres tall with the Brooklyn bridge coming in at 84 metres.... shit be deep
It's not 65m deep. This is a horrible way to test the dept. The sonar is more than likely being pushed by the current and is facing downstream therefore the readings are extended and also unreliable. This creek is closer to around 6m. Or 20-30ft
@@logankowalyk2580 Sonar doesn't get pushed. He's also using a gyroscopic sonar so it's always pointing downwards. The strid really is that deep. And goggle confirms this.
I've been visiting Bolton Abbey with my family for decades. I have a lot of good memories playing in the much calmer and shallower stretch near the Abbey. My first memory of the Strid section is from a school trip in the early 90s. It was drilled into us, at length, that it was deep and treacherous and that everyone should stay back from the edge. We were told stories of people trying to jump the narrow bits, falling in and not being recovered. I remember thinking "it doesn't look that wide, I could probably jump it..." but being cowed by the stories.
Man, those depths add an additional terror. Without equalising your ears on the way down as trained divers do, you'd almost certainly burst your ear drums at depths below ~20m. Just an extra level of pain to go through in before you die!
You'd not get a chance to do any diver things, you'd already have been swept under and had your head repeatedly smacked against rocks below the surface before you could process what had happened. Burst ear drums would be the very least of your problems lol
Sonar doesn't work well in very turbulent water. When you're on a boat and going at speed, you cant use it due to the turbulence and air bubbles in the water. I'm not sure your max depth readings are accurate because of that
That is true, we also know it's not that deep. I believe that it was properly surveyed back in 1981 by University of Leeds divers. The depth is only between 20 ft (6m at low flow) up to a max of 9m 30ft at high flow.
@@HoleyMoleyAlex A lot of erosion can happen within 40 years with the flow that water has. Not only that, but it's an entire cave system underneath that makes it too dangerous to get into - even for divers.
I live near the Strid and love videos like this. Why because it promotes an air of mystique. Unfortunately that’s all it is. Yes it’s dangerous and indeed fatalities have occurred, but they also have in other stretches of the river. It is not a dangerous area if treated with caution, but swimming is certainly not advisable. That said it’s a beautiful stretch of river and I do enjoy videos such as this which encourage that air of mystique rather than the pure beauty of the place. Treat with respect and it will fill you with pleasure. There’s far more scary places in wharfedale, the dog with saucer sized eyes in Trollers Ghyll, the mysterious carvings and UFOs on Rombalds Moor (Ilkley Moor) to name a couple. Sometimes mysteries are best left that way. By the way the depth of water is irrelevant when it comes to drowning, if you can’t breathe in it it doesn’t matter if it’s 2 inch or 20 fathoms.
Sonars work with sounds waves reflected from the bottom. Sound moves ~3x faster in water than air so with how much air there is in the water, it would slow the reflection of the sound waves down a bit and would trick the sonar into reading the water as deeper than it is. It’s still incredibly deep and dangerous but the numbers will be skewed a little bit towards the deeper with more bubbles present. I love the video and how you put it together, just felt like sharing this lil bit of info
I thought about this too. I know that subs used to hide from Sonar because of varying temperatures being unable to detect there presence. I wonder if that would apply here?
If it is an underwater sonar, which I assume it is, then it’s safe to say that the calculation for depth accounts for sound travelling through water. It might actually be inaccurate used in air as it calculates a slower sound travel in air as it does for water.
There's something incredibly eerie about a body of water this narrow, that looks like your average stream, that is over 200 feet deep. The fact the water is so murky and dark with tannic acid, hiding all its secrets, only adds to the creepiness. Shudder. Thank you for making these videos that reveal the terrifying truth!
You are right its definately a bit unusual....if you haven't already check out David Paulides "Missing 411" he draws a link between missing people and bodies of water. This creek certainly is strange.
Hey mate, definitely get yourself some ppe if you go measuring stuff in a river again, like a pfd so you float if you fall in, a helmet& a mate with a throw bag to pull you out. Trust me man ! Advice from a long time rafting guide. Crazy how deep that is too, likely the main flow is concentrated on the surface looking at the ejection pace of the surface water, but clearly going over a huge pothole! Great work lad.
The nature of the strid means essentially the water has very little resistance. You fall right through it as if falling through air. (Realistically a little more resistance, but not enough that even floatation devices will give you any buoyancy). Then at the bottom the weight of the water means you can't climb out, or move realy or anything much. The only reason you'd survive is that you'd be close to it's outlet, and were lucky enough that the current shunts you out without you falling into one of the caves or other crazy geometry down there. Basically there is no chance.
@@bradleysmith9431 deadliest in england, probably not the world. when people talk about the strid, they're not referring to the wider area where t where the granny is swimming. its more further upstream.
That's around 210 ft or equal to a 21 story building. How can something so narrow be so deep absolutely unbelievable. Wonderful Post ! Not to mention an absolutely beautiful landscape which unfortunately sometimes can be deadly..
As I live nearby, I've walked past this quite a few times and it was terrifying watching you that close to it. Some sections are literally a couple of feet wide (about 60 cm) depending on the time of year, but the depth is ridiculous and the undercurrents are, as you said, absolutely incomprehensible, as in most people can't appreciate how it looks beneath the rocks. Someone got pulled under and the body was found a few miles down river, but on the surface it looks almost calm and inviting, on a peaceful day. Must have been some weather the days before you filmed. Great video by the way.
@@chriswoodley3307 haha, look at you spending bytes trying to explain yourself to an idiot like @undertyped1. I remember being a child with my parents and paddling in light streams that didn't look too different than this deceptive monstrosity.
That's what I was thinking, standing this close and all it takes is one little slip and bye bye ... slipping at a cliff you still have a chance to grip some rocks and try to break the fall, slipping here and you don't ...
An interesting note to compare is The deepest section in the Niagara River is just below the Horse-Shoe Falls. It is deep as it equals the height of the falls above: 52 metres (170 ft.) , but as you determined the deepest part in the Strid is 65 meters (217ft). Jack - Thanks for the info on the Strid.
Makes sense that an underwater waterfall with that much pressure would get plenty deep too, they're often deeper than the result of a normal waterfall and that's not counting geological formations that existed before the river itself
Great comparison. I found this video that shows Horseshoe Falls and it's mind-boggling that The Strid Is DEEPER than the height of the falls 😮 ruclips.net/video/FeOEjiCMl1k/видео.html
That's terrifying hearing how deep this river suddenly drops on top of that you have to worry about rocks,caverns,and cold frigid water guess that's why most would have a zero percent chance of survival
I could imagine being tumbled around like a washing machine underwater and having no idea what way is up. With 60 meters of water with dark water, cave systems, bubbles everywhere, etc..No wonder people can easily drown there. You can kick and swim as hard as you want and it's useless without a sense of direction.
The way to find which way is up is by blowing out air and seeing where it goes...but in the dark and with so many other bubbles I doubt that'd be possible.
It's not just that, the water is so turbulent that it essentially doesn't act like water. The turbulent nature of it adds a ridiculous amount of air bubbles to the water and you can't float in air. You essentially sink or fall to the bottom due to the nature of this effect.
@@VenomGamingCenter I'm not a professional rescue diver to give answers on how they do what they do exactly, but if people lose their lives in a certain river or stream, most likely someone has attempted to dive it to recover the body...We have a river near my house that regularly claims lives of people falling in or kayaking, swimmers, etc..and the volunteer fire department dive it to do body recovering. In certain spots you see vortexs' and undertoe currents usually after the small waterfall that does the most damage and holds people underwater...I don't know how they overcome these features but I do know that they dive it and recover body's regularly.
It's a scary feeling to be sure. I was knocked off a tube and dragged underwater in a river where I live and was caught in a small turbulent area under a low tree branch like that. And when I was able to find the surface again, there was so much debris from everyone's stuff always falling into the river and getting caught in the branch that I couldn't push it all aside and get my head above water. Very lucky I was able to finally get out. 0 out of 10 experience. Be careful in and around water.
Deeper in there's zero visibility in cavernous areas. The water is dark and foaming like what I see in Scotland - runoff from peat bogs. Undertows and vortexes, a pure nightmare.
Stuff like this exists all over Canada just not as dramatically. Our old farm had a river that ran through it and fed a dozen more properties. It was 4-5 foot wide in some places yet moved millions of tons of water. Some sections were 35+ foot deep. We lost entire cattle into that damn river more then once. Just Fing gone. And we have pulled Sturgeon out well over 150lbs There is also a truck down there somewhere.
I've just found out about this quaint and rather pretty man eating stream. 3 feet across and 130 feet deep is incredibly creepy. I'd love this stretch to mapped somehow so we can see a CG image of what the cave system would actually look like and how far the overhang goes back. You're a braver man than I. I cannot stand fast flowing water and very deep fast flowing water is nightmare fuel to me.
I've been to the Strid a few times as a child, pretty shocked at how deep it is. Not that surprised though, given the volume of water that goes through it. I remember being told that the water is more dangerous than you'd expect, not just because it's swirling & all the undercurrents & mini whirlpools, but because it's so full of bubbles, making it much harder to float even if you're a really good swimmer.
@@iang-lb7nx what about it. even if it was 15 meters it’d kill almost every person that went in it. it’s an underground cave system, that sucks you in and there’s no way out, it’s really that simple
Holy balls! That's one deep stream. We have a few of those here in Sweden too. Say the stream is 1 meter wide and 66 meters deep. That is more volume per second than my 60 ton truck of gasoline/diesel. Truck was 18-21 cubic meters plus 33 cubic meters for the trailer. That thin/deep river flows more than a fully loaded tanker truck measuring 25 meters long 60 tons! Just wow! Great job!
I think you will find some of those deeper sections have regions of slow flowing water within them. This usually happens when water flows over a depression that is deeper than its deepest outlet goes. You essentially end up fairly stagnant water at the bottom being trapped by the rise up to the outlet acting like a dam so most of the flow occurs at the top above the outlet height.
I watched my brother drown in a slow looking river..under currents got him, he’s a great swimmer and strong but the river just took him away…he popped out eventually not far away, we actually brought him back, he was so lucky. Please be careful folks around any river.
Does the sonar ball have an orientation sensor? The current seems to be so strong that on fishing line it would pull the ball sideways, making the transducer face down the river and giving you an artificially deep reading. It would seem the only way to do this accurately would be some kind of rigid pole attachment with s flex on the end that could be tightened down to set the angle of the ball's axis near completely vertical when it was held under the surface.
I’ve had a Deeper Sonar for a few years. It’s pretty well weighted to keep itself upright. You can attach the line at the top for just dropping it, or from just above its “equator” which works best when trolling or casting it & retrieving it. They do also have a boat clamp mount and a pivoting arm for the end of it.
@@Bmk87ca I saw that. That's unusual. It's designed to attach to line and float. But it makes sense that in order to control it in turbulent water, a rigid connection to the rod would help. By the same token, the rigid connection to the rod was why the OP had to get himself into somewhat precarious positions to get the sonar ball to the center of the stream.
After hearing Mr. Ballen's description of this part of the river, my anxiety was through the roof watching you work your way to the edge. People have slipped on the rocks and fallen in. This has got to be one of the most terrifying places in nature...
In the deep spots I'm not sure you're getting the actual depth. As you mentioned, the bank is an overhang. When you were at the calm water you were able to have the sensor rod parallel to the bottom, which would give a good reading, but when the sensor is in the rough water both times it looks like the sensor is being held at an angle(for good reason, since you don't want to fall in!), so it might be reflecting off the bottom, then off the side wall then back, which would increase the perceived depth quite a bit. Either way, whatever is down there is still incredible deep, but it would be cool to map the depth with a more consistent method. That would be helpful to get a more clear answer to the original question, and maybe even publish some information on it!
The ball hangs freely off the tip of the rod, meaning it's level is independent of the angle of the rod. It's bouncing in the same direction independent of the angle he has to take to get it in the water.
@@theBrightman If it hangs freely from the tip of the rod then the current will be making the sensor horizontal so it's seeing along the length of the stream , not the depth.
The transducer needs to point straight down to get accurate readings. If the tether causes it to point at an angle when in the current then the distance will probably be inaccurate.
Oh my God! I was so nervous for you going so near that water. It looks like there should be all kinds of warning signs and alarms. So, scary. My heart is actually beating faster watching your approach.
For us visual types: The deepest part could fit 4 school buses stacked end to end, or you could submerge the entire Leaning Tower of Pisa into that part of The Strid, and still have room to spare. 😳
I've only heard the terrifying and heart breaking stories of The Strid, it's nice to see it as the wonder of nature that it truly appears to be. It's really beautiful.
@@AverageAlien The problem is that some times of the year some of the most dangerous parts of the strid just look like a very calm stream perfect for swimming in. The strid has a 100% mortality rate that I know of.
The Strid is truly an underwater crevasse or a thin underwater canyon. It’s thin but I truly believe that it gets much wider at the bottom and then forms into a rapid underwater lake with massive cave systems.
I haven't been trained in sonar but I would have to imagine that if you had a better mount for that thing you would get a more accurate reading. The current looks like it's pulling it at an angle which I would imagine would distort your reading some what. I mean it's still crazy deep
I would agree with you on this here, as far as sonar goes i would say that one would not be to accurate in those conditions ? needs to be a fixed transducer on a ridged out rigger !!, 210ft seems a bit excessive to me, we have the Lune deeps out of Fleetwood with a max depth of approx 230ft and that gets billions of cubic mtrs of water through it twice a day running at 7 knotts which is just over 8mph,
Nothing he did was accurate. The sonar needs to sit level. Not at a single point was it level. He kept it tight on the pole, not loose as it is supposed to be. Soon as it is angled it bounces back on an angle. Essentially it is 100% inaccurate.
I agree, its no way near a scientific measuring. I have an exact same sonar at home. Though you can have in an arm on a boat, but much more stable then this setup.
@@natehale1982 yeah I had no idea what type of sonar device it is or anything for all I knew it has some internal self leveling system. But I figured that the chances of that are slim and the fact the current was ripping it sideways meant it would fuck it up if it didn't lol
Greetings from New Zealand! I just became interested in The Strid today. After reading several articles, I'm really glad I watched your video! Great job and I'm glad you didn't slip. Thanks for doing this for us all and I hope you get many likes for this great content.
@@jackasnacks Hi Jack, we've just gone into a severe lockdown due to the Covid Delta variant entering the community. Still, I can't complain as our government are doing all they can to contain it and most Kiwis understand we take a couple of weeks of harsh measures so that we can return to relative normalcy. I hope everyone else out there is doing well and keeping safe.
i've walked down this path more times than i care to remember for over half a century, and just looking at it having heard many stories of no chance of survival is enough to keep me (and kids/grandkids) well away from the edge, but 65m deep !!! i never knew that, it's pretty insane and i AM shocked lol, it's a fact i can use to impress my walking buddies, so thanks for the vid :)
My father jumped it when he was a lad and said it was probably the most stupid thing he ever did, given that he knew the consequences of falling in. Though I live in the US now I grew up alongside the Wharfe which, at another part a little downstream, claimed the life of a grammar school friend. The Wharfe is a treacherous river, full stop.
Wow, I came across this river a couple of months back on internet and now knowing how deep it is it’s even more mind blowing 😍 Thank you Jack a snacks for your video 🙏
I subscribed and liked simply because you went and did that. Guys like you deserve more presence on here and definitely more availability and opportunity. Just keep doin you bro!
Great video just dont get so close without being tied to something. I was near there just yesterday evening at sunset and you can hear rocks being thrown around in the strid. freaky sound.
@ᅠᅠ yeah there is a section of river that's a feeder to the lake Michigan that is electrified by the US Army Engineering Core to keep an invasive fish out, but to be fair that section is concrete and well signposted that it's electrified. Cost in the high hundreds of millions to build and maintain
Try looking up Bolton Abbey stepping stones. You'll see the exact same river, about a mile down stream from The Strid. 60 stepping stones to cross the river.
Fun fact: The Congo River discharges the second highest amount of water in the world, yet it's only the 9th longest. The river reaches a depth of 720 feet (219 meters). For comparison, the Amazon reaches a max depth of 328 feet (100 meters) and the Mississippi is about as deep as the deepest part of the Strid (200 feet, or 60 meters). The Congo is so deep, it has gouged out a deep underwater canyon into continental shelf under the Atlantic Ocean at its mouth. The Strid is like a mini Congo, except much deadlier.
That's awesome work, not to mention a little nerve racking watching you get so close. Although I'm not sure how much difference it would make it is worth noting that the readings in fast flowing, aerated water will show it as deeper than it is. This is due to the fact that sound travels much faster in water than air.
I had asked about it in the other video but the drone footage was really helpful in explaining just why the Strid is so unusual - flipped upside down is an apt description indeed! It’s essentially a slot canyon carved into the relatively soft rock as it drops from the heights above. Gravity never sleeps, and water never stops working either, you know. There’s several local watercourses here in the Ozarks that have their own quirks, attractions and potential hazards too. One I haven’t really found a lot of good information on is just exactly where is the deepest known location on Table Rock Lake. Most people say it’s the river channel just above the dam, but I’m inclined to suspect it’s a potential blue hole (called a calyx) on the outer left edge of a right hand hairpin bend just below the Kimberling Bridge. The channel is generally 200-220’ here but some charts have indicated 270-280.’ Whatever the case, it’s reasonable to assume it’s substantially deeper than usual due to the sharp bend creating a local whirlpool effect and scouring the bottom out at the base of a sheer underwater cliff. There are several such locations along the lake but this one is the deepest.
Now that you've said this, I regret ever swimming in Taneycomo, because the surface looks like this strid does when the strid is calm, and I already had to climb down a cliff to swim in it in the first place and it was COLD so it know it came from deep. I shudder at the thought.
Ever since I heard of the strid I asked myself "why hasn't anyone put a sonar on a stick down there?" You sir, have solved one of the longest lingering question I had.
Brother, you are the kind of adventurer I can relate to. This is the first video I have seen of yours, but I already know I’ll be watching plenty more. Seeing such a narrow stretch of running water, I would have never, ever guessed it to be that deep. We have some dangerous spots around here at a point called Great Falls, I feel quite confident that it never gets that deep.
Great video, I've always been scared of the strid thanks to my parents telling me how many people died there and always finding it hypnotic, it almost beckons you to jump in. I knew about the caves and ledges but unbelievable that it is so deep, the power of the water is immense.
Considering sonar readings depend on the density of the material I wonder how much the heavy aeration of the water in that deepest section affected your result. Since sound travels slower in air than water it would give you an artificially high reading, but I wonder by how much.
Having grown up in Yorkshire, with grandparents nearby, and therefore having visited the Strid many times, I have always felt an overwhelming anxiety even looking at pictures of it, and a healthy soul gripping fear of it. Thanks to this incredible and informative video, I no longer have that fear, which has been replaced with a much more rational absolute terror of otherworldly why-would-a good-and-caring-god-create-such horror proportion. Good job, Jack! 65 meters. Fucking hell.
Maybe He created it to teach us to show caution no matter how serene something looks . To always practice safety , to highten the self-survival instinct we all possess
@@MrSpruce - " And most importantly , to lure children to their deaths " ? Are you freakin serious ? I make a simple " maybe " comment and an atheist troll tells us God lures children to their death .. Get a grip dude and take your Meds .
I just happened upon a 'short' of Mr Ballen's about the strid. I've never heard of it prior. Beautiful & scenic yet scary as hell! Thanks for braving the slick banks to investigate the various depths. Wow 65 meters deep at the deepest part, which also appears to be a narrower part, that's 213 feet & some 3 inches! Like a few other viewers I'm from the Pacific NW, Oregon City to be exact & very near what we call High Rocks on the Clackamas River. It's a very popular summer hang out, particularly for younger people. Also quite dangerous with a long history of drownings which occured annually until life guards were finally put in. Thanks for the video, most fascinating!
When I was a kid on the River strid, there was no darkness greater than the hearts of those who hid, below the abbey in caves of cold, the dragon they fed, he who eats must be fed, those who feed the enemy have run low on souls, beware the caves of cold beside the River strid that run beneath the abbey beyond the wharfe of Bolton Priory. 2 sticks will show the way echos the hearth. I will return again one day and free those that were lost, When I was a kid on the River strid
@@jackasnacks I watched from New Hampshire too, but I'm from West Yorkshire and lived pretty much on the banks of the Wharfe. crazy! It's Wor-fe. To rhyme with "war"
Same, it reminded me of my current trip to the Oregon coast. There’s this structure in the rocks there that’s essentially a giant horizontal hole/tube that the waves shoot up and down (called Thors Well, look it up.) And it’s absolutely amazing to witness because as the tide is coming in, the waves shoot super high and fast into the air from this hole. That being said, these waves have the very real capacity to come up, knock you off the rocks and into the hole, where nothing but sharp mussels and a water grave await you. Creepiest part is that this is the exact type of thing you can’t really retrieve bodies from… so everyone who’s ever died in there is doomed to haunt it. A truly horrible fate. Anyway I couldn’t help but have incredible dread and anxiety knowing all this as I watched a man edge closer and closer to the hole, his wife taking photos and egging him on. Sure enough, a large wave comes up and he’s soaked, but luckily it was not enough to even knock him back, much less into the hole. This finally made him back off and I shit you not, the SECOND he stepped back, a MASSIVE wave came crashing through that would have knocked him out for sure. I just looked at him with a stern face and said “good thing you moved, huh?” It’s one thing for people to put their own lives in danger, that’s their issue but I was NOT prepared to see someone die that day right in front of my eyes…
This is a great video! I visited the Strid once and stood on the rock where it would seem possible to jump down on the lower one on the other side..... I was told that many have tried over many centuries and fallen in, never to be found again! I am amazed its 65m deep! the turbulent currents must be immense. Thank you for measuring the depth, a job well done.
Yeah that rock in the middle is about half way up the Strid. The day i filmed this a young guy actually jumped to it. You can see him stood on it in one of the drone shots although my drone was fairly high at the time. I considered doing the same but i just didnt have thee confidence to do it lol
it’s a mind boggling piece of river, I was a paramedic and a member of the fell rescue who searched for them unfortunate newly weds, it was so sad, I would think that one of them slipped on the limestone and the other tried to rescue them. They found them down stream near addingham.
Jim thats really cool, do you remember much about that event? I haven't met anyone that was part of that. Would you by chance be willing to maybe explain to me what you remember happening and what you were doing whilst part of the search party? I'm sure there are lots of people would love to hear that story. Can be done over email rather than comments if want to :) No worries if you don't fancy it though!
@@jackasnacks it happened in aug 1998, it had been raining very heavy. We parked at Barden bridge up stream from the strid woods, I was amazed at the volume of water in the river. The wharfe like most of the Dale’s rivers are spate rivers, they rise and fall very fast especially in the summer. We searched down stream to the bridge at the A59, alas no sign of the two was found. Lynne’s body was found on the weir at Addingham 6 days latter, Barry was found on October 16 10 miles downstream. I’m glad for the family and friends that they recovered them. They either slipped in or got caught in a flash flood. There’s not much to do when a person gets caught in there. One thing that I do remember of the day is, when I got back to my vehicle someone had smashed my car window and stole my child seat and various other items of property. Stay safe. It was a good video that you did and the one with the GoPro 👍
I find this so interesting, but quite terrifying as well. The only thing I can think of that scares me more than claustrophobic places and spaces, is deep water, especially thunderously fast, deep water.
@@WanderingVango no one. only in your little mind would you think anyone would try doing that on a daily occurrence depending on where they are located on the globe.
What a nice video, a dude investing time and money in measuring an interesting river, as well as getting some amazing result, this is wholesome. Take care friend!
I've been there, walking along, sensibly mind, knowing it to be dangerous. Deep spots of 213 feet though? That's intimidating. Really intimidating. Thank you for your efforts, you've added to the magic of the place. I urge folk to visit, it's a lovely spot. Bolton Abbey is really cool.
Interesting and impressive! Although I suspect that the high content of air bubbles in the water will make she speed of sound significantly slower than that of pure water. If your sonar is calibrated for pure water, it will indicate a greater depth than the actual. This error can be significant.
I wonder if the turbulence is rotating the ball so it it measures slightly diagonally (away from vertical) or if the frothy bubbles do anything to the sound waves?…. Certainly staggering shape of a channel!! Thanks for giving this a go, wonder what other super deep river channels there are?
Really interesting video, my girlfriend’s folk live at Bolton Abbey, I can’t wait to tell them! We knew it was deep, but nearly 70m! Wow. They say the ‘Strid’ gobbles you up, but you may never surface! Think you proved exactly why that’s the case! Great video! You Sir, have my subscription!
Christ, just watching a few of your other videos! The branches, ledges and undercurrents you filmed at around 30m made my skin crawl! I honestly got goose bumps! I think it might be that you can kind of image you could swim (float) down the length of it. It seems so innocuous. Then the reality of the thought kicks you in the behind! If you went in (not to labour the point) but I think it would be like an underwater maze of ledges and you’d never find the surface again! Enough of that now though. But great series of films, thanks for posting!
Amazing. Mind blown indeed. That's then a contained 200ft waterfall? Hi from Downingtown, PA. Our Brandywine River looks more like the rest of the Wharfe
Amazing, visited the Strid many times since childhood as my Dad was from near Skipton and my Aunt and Uncle lived in Burley-in-Wharfedale. Knew it was dangerous but amazed at these depth readings.
Quite aside from the fascination surrounding the Strid, I'd love to visit this part of the Yorkshire Dales, what a beautiful bit of country. Cool video, thanks for making it!
I gave a like, which is getting rare these days because of the amount of content good vs bad.. But that the author asked in a genuine way and explained why. Then off course such a small gesture will be granted. Absolutely. That it's a interesting video about something that scary, is just a lovely treat
"How deep is (insert any river)" and you never get a clear answer. As someone with a fascination with geographic superlatives I find the subject of river depths VERY intriguing. Many major rivers around the world have undocumented depths. The alleged record is the Congo, at over 700 feet (213m) deep.
@ᅠᅠ the Congo is a river. That is a completely different body of water than the ocean. Yes, 700 feet is a very deep river. Your attempt to school me on deep water is just stupid dude. Yeah I know about the abyss, lmao.
Very interesting. Worried you're putting yourself at risk. Is it possible that the sonar ball is dragged to be at an angle from the point of suspension so maybe you're measuring a diagonal distance rather than vertical?
It's been about forty years since I visited here. I remember swimming in the wider section and then walking up with the family to the falls section. I knew it was dangerous, but seeing your readings, just makes me think as to how powerful it is! I seem to recall seeing some names carved into the rock around the falls section of victims and there had only recently been a fatality (this would have been around 1982) so it was quite sobering, even for the eleven/twelve year old me. A beautiful part of the world but oh so deadly if you were careless. Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories.
My uncle Sid use to jump over the rocks with me in his arms over sixty yrs ago he was an athlete,but I wouldn,t recommend , it's a stunning places to visit.
ur parents should be fired for allowing u to go there. But then again ur british , dont they start giving you vodka straight out the bottle around age 8 or 9?
I’ve been swimming there as well. I remember there was always talk of the people that recently died. As long as you’re careful and swim strongly, you will be ok.
Great video. I'm not from Britain so it is fun to watch your videos and explore a different part of the world. This area looks beautiful. I've been wanting to travel to Britain for years and the Yorkshire Dales is on my list of places to visit.
@@jackasnacks It would have since it's measuring the hypotenuse of a triangle instead of it's height. I'm guessing the actual value to be a a lot less than what you measured. Still an interesting vid though.
@@florianvanloo4109 thanks for the insight there I appreciate all the questions that pop up around this subject. I should of mentioned this but there are 2 settings on the ball. 55 degrees and 15 degree cones. I had it set to 15 given how narrow the overhangs were. Just for a bit more info
I wondered if the entrained air bubbles would slow the signal down enough to give a false reading too. But sound is only about 4.5 times faster in water than air, and there isn't that much volume of air bubbles in the water. I don't think turbulence should affect the reading. And if the bubbles were causing the sound to refract around the bubbles, I would expect the indicated depth to be the shortest path it was seeing (which is also another reason to think that sound traveling through air bubbles shouldn't have an impact on the reading). I suppose there is a danger that the sonar was at an angle to the surface so the distance measured was including some horizontal distance. But it would have to be at fair angle before that would start to add significant depth.
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While the subject is interesting, you're talking way too much and saying nothing of value. This would be better as a 2 minute video.
@@subetai17 yeah I probably did. Don’t know when to shut up do I. Time stamps available to jump to the interesting bits. Thanks for checking it out subetai appreciate it
I thought the video was great.
@@subetai17 jog on I would of enjoyed a video double the length, no one in the comments agrees with you.It was a great video,I know a fair bit about the stid and didn't find it repetitive,annoying or anything like that.Its was great.
I really enjoyed the video and the commentary. It was friendly, relaxed, and personal.
The absolute best way to describe the River Strid, its a canyon. Look at Antelope Canyon for example. It's the exact same shape and will still fill up occasionally. Only difference is the Strid doesn't dry up
@Yeah, I said it not to mention, its probably a lot deeper than he can measure. That thing only reads depth in a strait line. I know for fact, that there has to be an overhang or two closer to the bottom where the water is most turbulent
@Yeah, I said it would still be absolutely as difficult as mapping something can be though. Looooots of background noise that will mess up any imaging sonar. I think itd be cool to build a submersible that maps using close proximity sonar, so that there'd be less interference
@Yeah, I said it i like where your brain is going! So sonar is really interesting. Lower hz sonar is used for low resolution and longer distance and isnt as claer. Higher hz sonar is better for high resolution and up close, as there are more soundwaves reflecting back to the detector. Problem is high hz sonar is really sensitive to bg noise unless you have some kick ass military grade software and hardware to help muddle through the noise.
Holy shit. My most liked comment is one explaining that the River Strid is a canyon.
I'm gonna go one step further and bring up Spooky Slot Canyon where my family calls it the nipple grinder for how narrow it is. The most terrifying part though is looking up after a recent rain to see where the last waterline was some 30 feet above your head and above that is a very battered looking log wedged some 40-50 feet above the floor. River Strad is a slot canyon, don't fuck with slot canyons full of water.
This seems like a great place to hide a body
Wasn’t expecting to see you here
You'd have to weight it down a bit, and keep it on a chain as you lower it so you can 'steer it' into the deep waters before it gets washed away.
@@StarLight-lt2tm or has some serious experience...
Haha I see the algorithm is perfect
Indeed it is.
It's terrifying, particularly when it looks like a quaint little shallow stream which you could skinny dip in to cool off on a hot sunny day. I bet the Strid has lured thousands to their deaths over the centuries.
I use to be a sailor, (I don't know why) but water has always terrorfied me. You never know what's in it, or what the water hides until you get sucked into it. I don't trust any body of water.
The great lakes are like that. Since they're not salt water people don't think they're dangerous and every year some poor idiot washes up on a beach after falling from a pier or not realizing how very deadly the under tow is.
@@shanepatrick4534 happened in my town not long ago, happens a few times each year on lake superior alone
@@shanepatrick4534 happened a month ago in conneaut lake erie, people dont realize there's more shipwrecks and stuff on lake erie and the other lakes than any other body of water on the planet
@@shanepatrick4534 that’s how it used to be for locals like me around Mt. Hood between my experience of 1998-2010 when every year we would have a local news watch of at least 2-5 dead because they underrated the mountain and didn’t bring a GPS. It got to the point where as a child I would feel no pity at all. You respect the water. You respect the mountain... no matter the appearance.
It would be so cool to do a LIDAR Scan under the water there so we could see how complex the underwater cave systems are. Cheers, from Corvallis, Oregon. 👍🏻
I in Corvallis too!
Lol there's no cheer in Corvallis after y'all legalized drugs and made Oregon one huge homeless encampment.
Portland here😅
Cool underground streams at the bottom of crater lake.
@@thethornbrues6205 u got jokes
Imagine diverting the water draining the whole length of it. It would be an amazing place to explore.
that would be fascinating
I wonder how many bones you'd find
this actually sounds amazing, should tell some millionaires or maybe the country about it.
@Thomas Shannon how is it bad..... do you know how amazing it would look down there............ you obviously have never had someone to show you the right way, except the right way of others. Still think if I had a different a not of live would have turned out diff if had my
Millionaire always have always will
Drop some cave divers in.
This is incredible. It is mind boggling to me that it goes that deep. If I were on top of a roof at 65 meters up. I'd have the shakes looking down. Yet people are just walking along the edge of the rocks like theres not a giant chasm below them. Funny how visuals work (meaning since we cant see it, it doesn't seem scary).
It’s unlikely to be that deep, inaccurate readings.
Nice to see Harry Potter got a job after all them movies.
@@THISISLolesh if it's not that deep then where is the volume of the water? It's clearly not in the width of the river. It's geologically straightforward for it to be a flooded slot canyon with such depth.
@@wilsonov87 Except that the river has overhangs, so it's not as narrow as it looks. It gets wider underground.
Yeah but you also dont float in air generally either.
Wow! I'd love to see this place fully mapped & modeled in 3d.
That would be amazing to see.
Can't wait to see it too!
It’s basically an underwater water fall that pulls you into its basin of caves. Be safe and god bless you for making these videos, I’m sure your saving people with these videos
I have never heard of The Strid before, and I found it absolutely fascinating! This is an exceptionally well made video and I loved the drone footage! I hail from Tampa, Florida, USA.
Thanks Diane glad you enjoyed it and your comments really do help keep me motivated to keep finding out more! Hope all is good in Florida!
Same loved this
I'm in Tampa as well. average water depth in our rivers around 5foot I've canoed every river around I couldn't imagine 200 foot moving that fast.
@@mikeo8790 I canoe the Hillsborough River, and up where I go the water doesn’t seem to move at all! The gators like it better that way! :-)
@@dianeluke1746 St Augustine here. 👍🏻👍🏻
Folks, please note that “The Strid” is just a small section of the River Wharfe, in Wharfedale, Yorkshire. It is not the River Strid which seems to be a source of confusion judging by many of the comments here. This interesting video was done when the water level was relatively low, but even I would think twice (and more) before trying to jump across its most dangerous parts.
We live in Burley-in-Wharfedale, just a little downstream of the Strid and have visited it numerous times to photograph the area throughout the year as the season and water conditions change. There’s no doubting that in flood it looks particularly dangerous so it’s easy to appreciate the risks, but when it’s summertime it looks like a little stream with nothing to indicate the danger except for the numerous warning/danger notices in the area.
What is the actual danger though? Will it suck you under? Is it just fast currents? Steep drops? What is it that kills you?
@@Vespyr_ Its probably all of the above alongside some other reasons, so I can’t claim to know the precise answer, but I do agree with your suggestions. If you walk upstream of the Strid the river Wharfe is quite a lot wider than than the Strid, and the same holds true for the downstream as well. It suggests that there’s more going on in the Strid for it to be narrowed on the surface.
If The upstream water has to go somewhere to allow for the conditions we observe - the Strid’s surface water is considerably faster than the up/downstream area which would support your thoughts about speed/depth/turbulence, the latter being possibly the hardest bit to deal with.
If you are in the area during spring to autumn after a local rainstorm has fallen upstream, the power of the water passing through the Strid, is quite an awesome sight. Unfortunately those that die trying to jump across the narrow parts tend to be tourists that ignore the warning signs and they only see a small stream that looks appealing to cool off in (yes, we do see sunshine in Yorkshire, lol), but they don’t appreciate just how strong the current/undertow/turbulence/depth is, nor do they appreciate the danger until too late.
I suspect that as it’s in an area of limestone strata that, as with other limestone areas (the North Riding of Yorkshire has lots), that there’s plenty of underwater overhang’s, which, coupled with fast flow and turbulence, it’s going to make death by drowning far more likely (the turbulence/& associated bubbles won’t make it easy to swim to safety).
Add in these possible complications and the likelihood of survival that much harder eg fast flow/overhang’s water power making impacting the head on the rocks highly likely.
When a body is recovered, usually a bit further downstream, it’s difficult to assess the precise cause due to all the marks, bruises and extensive damage, resulting in it being listed as “death by drowning”.
Sorry for the length of my comment but hopefully it helps with understanding the situation? I didn’t want to just answer your question with some trite response such as “a combo of all of the above plus drowning” as it doesn’t help. It’s a pity that there’s no way to add photos/videos to accompany a comment as I’m sure it would show both the beauty of the area alongside the hidden danger of the area!
@@Vespyr_ Just spotted that Jack a Snacks has released a couple of newer Strid videos, and there’s one RUclipsr (MrBallen) that’s watching! Already hooked on these new videos which, TBH, show some of the reasons why jumping/swimming in the Strid is a shoe in for those that would like a posthumous Darwin Award!
@@Vespyr_ If underneath looks anything like slot canyons the danger is a hidden blender ready to bash you against the walls with highly turbulent waters until you're a nice puree.
I find it strange people don't watch the video then comment about it based on the title. He even comments during the video that it's the river Wharfe.
A few years ago people dropped a load of plastic balls in to track the route underground, non of the balls were ever seen again after they went into an underground cave system... this place is amazing and deadly
That doesn't sound very environmentally friendly. But if I ever kill anyone, I'm chopping them up and throwing them in the Strid at night.
I don't believe you have dismantle the corpse before dropping it off here
@@leifvejby8023 Yesnt.
@@Felix-Sited ping pong balls, they float and are often used to study water, as well as being highly visible if you use the orange kind
@@thewingedporpoise But human legs and arms, are much different. In very many fundamental ways.
I remember walking past this not realising how deep it was until I read a warning sign and an information board with illustrations of the geology of the river nearby. When I googled it after my walk, it gave me shudders. It stuck in my head for days. In parts it looked so calm and almost inviting. Without that warning sign I would have been none the wiser. It’s terrifying yet it’s beautiful and inviting- almost like it’s trying to trick you 😅.
Holy crap! For anyone in the US, the deepest part is over 210ft, about the height of a twenty-story building! Simply extraordinary.
Thanks! Im from the US and had no idea how to visualize 65 meters XD
@@captainsquiggles5958 Me, too, but I've spent so much time overseas, I can go back-and-forth between Imperial and Metric measures pretty easily.
@@captainsquiggles5958 Basically a metre is equivalent to 3ft 3 inches. So times by 3 - and if it's a big number add on a bit for every set of 3" making up another foot. So 4 metres = 13 feet. (I'm British and we think in both metres and feet and inches).
How much is that in cheeseburgers?
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You an absolute legend,I wanted to know this for years,I search for new strid videos every week ,so when I saw this today I couldn't beleive it .Thanks.Hope you get enough likes to put some ads on you deserve it.
Hey Rich no problem. Was great fun to go visit was my first time there so wasn’t a trouble at all. I have also followed strid videos for about a year now and read through comments of lots of suggestions for experiments. I figured I’d give this a shot! Good to see you here
@@jackasnacks thanks Jack,14.5 double decker busses,I will do my own video too one day.I had the idea to get a big weight on a rod ,one that can sink quick enough to avoid the current and measure the depth.Also wanted to put a life jacket on a manikin, people had issue with the littering aspect.However a one off is well worth it.We need to know.Can alway retrieve it downstream if possible.
Dito Dito Dito 😏, great words 👍
It is terrifying seeing those ferocious eddies coming up and dispersing against the direction of flow in the turbulent area, almost like there is an upward draft of water. It is basically a washing machine for a depth of over 60 meters. I was always skeptical seeing other vids on this but this shows just why it is so dangerous. Awesome.
Had to like and subscribe because you did and contributed money/time to this! Great job!!
Even the best transducers, mounted on fishing boats, give inaccurate readings when bubbles are allowed to form. The trouble you had, in the beginning, getting consistent readings, could have been mitigated by allowing the transducer to "free float" down the stream. This would allow constant vertical orientation, which is very key.
Someone else made the point that the sonar he's using has a gyroscopic nature to it so that it always maintains vertical orientation inside the ball housing.
@@JLo83 but the bubbles can affect how sonar travels through the stream
Also, the cone it's measuring in isn't laser beam narrow. Trying to use a sonar close to a near vertical feature like that is fairly pointless, it will get confusing readings off the sides.
@@Kaboomf Wouldn't that more likely result in a shallower reading though if it doesn't just return an error?
@@llYossarian depends. Sometimes, the echo can reflect at a shallow angle off more than one surface and take a longer route back to the sonar, giving a false deep reading.
I actually work at a college that is up a 200ft Hill. To think that this river is as deep as the hill i work on is tall is truly a terrifying thought. You're brave for staying at that spot so close to the edge after seeing that reading come up. I would have gone back immediately lol
It is not that deep, lol.
@@Tugela60Did you do the measurements yourself to test that?
@@filipferencak2717 I don't have to measure anything, you can tell visually from the flow rate and from the water height over the rapids section. There is not that much water moving through the river. If the river has any depth the parts deeper than a meter or so are not moving at all.
Tom Scott did a video about The Strid and the algorithm pointed me here afterward, so you're definitely doing something right there since he has over 4m subscribers and your video is easily the same quality!
Thannks a lot Dale i appreciate it! Good to hear that it is recommended after Tom Scotts! Hopefully people manage to find the answers ayou tend to have after watching his video
@@jackasnacks I didn't watch past half way because a hardware unboxed charity stream came on and I was literally passing out, so I left it on for the view for them. I still learned a bunch more and answered most of my questions. I really need to start actually making content regularly for my own channel but my health has been extremely demotivating recently. Always doing research though! Keep it up dude
so has Haze Outdoors several months back
His video is way better than Tom Scott's, because Tom Scott didn't make a new scientific discovery and correct wikipedia and google.
I watch a lot of Tom Scott but haven't even been recommended his video on the topic yet, just this.
Going to see what else you've got!
The way that water roils by the falls.. I've seen waterfalls before, but that almost convective movement of the water is insanely powerful.. just wow ..
It makes sense that it's the deep there.. it's been hit with a pressure washer for ages.. it's been blasting the bottom of the falls away..
Just for reference... the Statue of Liberty is 93 metres tall, the statue of Christ in Rio de Janeiro is 38 metres tall with the Brooklyn bridge coming in at 84 metres.... shit be deep
Bottom of the Golden Gate bridge to the water at high tide is 67m
It's not 65m deep. This is a horrible way to test the dept. The sonar is more than likely being pushed by the current and is facing downstream therefore the readings are extended and also unreliable. This creek is closer to around 6m. Or 20-30ft
@@logankowalyk2580 Makes sense that the true depth would be the sonar pointing vertically downwards.
@@logankowalyk2580 Sonar doesn't get pushed. He's also using a gyroscopic sonar so it's always pointing downwards.
The strid really is that deep. And goggle confirms this.
@@VenomGamingCenter it's really not though
I've been visiting Bolton Abbey with my family for decades. I have a lot of good memories playing in the much calmer and shallower stretch near the Abbey. My first memory of the Strid section is from a school trip in the early 90s. It was drilled into us, at length, that it was deep and treacherous and that everyone should stay back from the edge. We were told stories of people trying to jump the narrow bits, falling in and not being recovered. I remember thinking "it doesn't look that wide, I could probably jump it..." but being cowed by the stories.
Man, those depths add an additional terror. Without equalising your ears on the way down as trained divers do, you'd almost certainly burst your ear drums at depths below ~20m. Just an extra level of pain to go through in before you die!
You'd not get a chance to do any diver things, you'd already have been swept under and had your head repeatedly smacked against rocks below the surface before you could process what had happened. Burst ear drums would be the very least of your problems lol
Sonar doesn't work well in very turbulent water. When you're on a boat and going at speed, you cant use it due to the turbulence and air bubbles in the water. I'm not sure your max depth readings are accurate because of that
That is true, we also know it's not that deep. I believe that it was properly surveyed back in 1981 by University of Leeds divers. The depth is only between 20 ft (6m at low flow) up to a max of 9m 30ft at high flow.
@@HoleyMoleyAlex A lot of erosion can happen within 40 years with the flow that water has. Not only that, but it's an entire cave system underneath that makes it too dangerous to get into - even for divers.
@@HoleyMoleyAlex I doubt the Uni of Leeds would have allowed it's divers to swim in the deeper areas, way too dangerous.
@@ApocalypticChronicles Eroison of solid limestone is not that quick, and they were cave divers are mad, and this was done by cave divers.
@@peterw7512 I am referring to the caving club, i.e. the cave divers. The dive definitely took place and it was the 80s!
Hello from Sweden! That is massively terrifying & there's not a shot in hell I'd get anywhere near those mossy ass rocks.
Sweden! Hello :) Love that country i love your language and accent lol
I presume y’all know know that in Swedish strid means fast or rapid when used about water or rivers but also combat !
Right?! my anxiety was skyrocketing when he was climbing down them
@@landonboyd3001 seriously, at least wear a helmet and lifejacket. Idk if it would help but I'd feel better watching him. Lol.
I live near the Strid and love videos like this. Why because it promotes an air of mystique. Unfortunately that’s all it is. Yes it’s dangerous and indeed fatalities have occurred, but they also have in other stretches of the river. It is not a dangerous area if treated with caution, but swimming is certainly not advisable.
That said it’s a beautiful stretch of river and I do enjoy videos such as this which encourage that air of mystique rather than the pure beauty of the place.
Treat with respect and it will fill you with pleasure.
There’s far more scary places in wharfedale, the dog with saucer sized eyes in Trollers Ghyll, the mysterious carvings and UFOs on Rombalds Moor (Ilkley Moor) to name a couple.
Sometimes mysteries are best left that way.
By the way the depth of water is irrelevant when it comes to drowning, if you can’t breathe in it it doesn’t matter if it’s 2 inch or 20 fathoms.
Sonars work with sounds waves reflected from the bottom. Sound moves ~3x faster in water than air so with how much air there is in the water, it would slow the reflection of the sound waves down a bit and would trick the sonar into reading the water as deeper than it is. It’s still incredibly deep and dangerous but the numbers will be skewed a little bit towards the deeper with more bubbles present. I love the video and how you put it together, just felt like sharing this lil bit of info
I thought about this too. I know that subs used to hide from Sonar because of varying temperatures being unable to detect there presence. I wonder if that would apply here?
I like how this comment was informative without sounding rude.
The algorithm used by the software does a good job at compensating for what you are describing as well as particulate interference.
The bubbles are only in the top meter. It shouldn’t affect it too much, but I’m wary of his results.
If it is an underwater sonar, which I assume it is, then it’s safe to say that the calculation for depth accounts for sound travelling through water. It might actually be inaccurate used in air as it calculates a slower sound travel in air as it does for water.
There's something incredibly eerie about a body of water this narrow, that looks like your average stream, that is over 200 feet deep. The fact the water is so murky and dark with tannic acid, hiding all its secrets, only adds to the creepiness. Shudder. Thank you for making these videos that reveal the terrifying truth!
No worries Otter! It is creepy. I always wonder if i am going to see something that i really don't want to lol
@@jackasnacks I can't wait to see more of your videos. I bet there's all sorts of interesting and creepy things down there!
You are right its definately a bit unusual....if you haven't already check out David Paulides "Missing 411" he draws a link between missing people and bodies of water. This creek certainly is strange.
It's dangerous because of the turbulence under the surface, not the depth.
@@jorandax9059 when the turbulence drags you down 200ft, then yes, it IS the depth that's as dangerous as much as the turbulence, idiot
Hey mate, definitely get yourself some ppe if you go measuring stuff in a river again, like a pfd so you float if you fall in, a helmet& a mate with a throw bag to pull you out. Trust me man ! Advice from a long time rafting guide. Crazy how deep that is too, likely the main flow is concentrated on the surface looking at the ejection pace of the surface water, but clearly going over a huge pothole! Great work lad.
Believe me, if he fell in the strid, none of that would have made the slightest difference
The pfd indeed!
I was thinking the same thing.
Only ppe that would work is a tethered rope set that theres no way he could fall in
The nature of the strid means essentially the water has very little resistance. You fall right through it as if falling through air. (Realistically a little more resistance, but not enough that even floatation devices will give you any buoyancy). Then at the bottom the weight of the water means you can't climb out, or move realy or anything much. The only reason you'd survive is that you'd be close to it's outlet, and were lucky enough that the current shunts you out without you falling into one of the caves or other crazy geometry down there. Basically there is no chance.
The strid is one of the deadliest waterways evar.
Pans over to some granny doing the breast stroke
Yeah, I doubt this is the most dangerous river in the world, it's just the most dangerous river that people still recreationally swim in.
100% fatality rate, RIP random swimmer dude in this video.
@@bradleysmith9431 doubt that too as people
Casually swim the Mississippi River
The strid isn't that long, as the river goes back to normal. Hence the person swimming downstream
@@bradleysmith9431 deadliest in england, probably not the world. when people talk about the strid, they're not referring to the wider area where t where the granny is swimming. its more further upstream.
That's around 210 ft or equal to a 21 story building. How can something so narrow be so deep absolutely unbelievable. Wonderful Post ! Not to mention an absolutely beautiful landscape which unfortunately sometimes can be deadly..
As I live nearby, I've walked past this quite a few times and it was terrifying watching you that close to it. Some sections are literally a couple of feet wide (about 60 cm) depending on the time of year, but the depth is ridiculous and the undercurrents are, as you said, absolutely incomprehensible, as in most people can't appreciate how it looks beneath the rocks. Someone got pulled under and the body was found a few miles down river, but on the surface it looks almost calm and inviting, on a peaceful day. Must have been some weather the days before you filmed. Great video by the way.
No more dangerous than standing nearish to a cliff, and that's not that risky.
@undertyped the thing is, jumping off a cliff isn't as inviting as jumping into a stream
@@chriswoodley3307 haha, look at you spending bytes trying to explain yourself to an idiot like @undertyped1. I remember being a child with my parents and paddling in light streams that didn't look too different than this deceptive monstrosity.
That's what I was thinking, standing this close and all it takes is one little slip and bye bye ... slipping at a cliff you still have a chance to grip some rocks and try to break the fall, slipping here and you don't ...
@@undertyped1 No surviving if you fall in, not to mention you don't get flash floods on a cliff.
An interesting note to compare is The deepest section in the Niagara River is just below the Horse-Shoe Falls. It is deep as it equals the height of the falls above: 52 metres (170 ft.) , but as you determined the deepest part in the Strid is 65 meters (217ft). Jack - Thanks for the info on the Strid.
Makes sense that an underwater waterfall with that much pressure would get plenty deep too, they're often deeper than the result of a normal waterfall and that's not counting geological formations that existed before the river itself
Great comparison. I found this video that shows Horseshoe Falls and it's mind-boggling that The Strid Is DEEPER than the height of the falls 😮 ruclips.net/video/FeOEjiCMl1k/видео.html
Thank you for the conversation to Emperial Units! Merica!!!
The Congo is 720 feet deep in some parts ;)
That's terrifying hearing how deep this river suddenly drops on top of that you have to worry about rocks,caverns,and cold frigid water guess that's why most would have a zero percent chance of survival
I could imagine being tumbled around like a washing machine underwater and having no idea what way is up. With 60 meters of water with dark water, cave systems, bubbles everywhere, etc..No wonder people can easily drown there. You can kick and swim as hard as you want and it's useless without a sense of direction.
The way to find which way is up is by blowing out air and seeing where it goes...but in the dark and with so many other bubbles I doubt that'd be possible.
It's not just that, the water is so turbulent that it essentially doesn't act like water.
The turbulent nature of it adds a ridiculous amount of air bubbles to the water and you can't float in air. You essentially sink or fall to the bottom due to the nature of this effect.
@@VenomGamingCenter I'm not a professional rescue diver to give answers on how they do what they do exactly, but if people lose their lives in a certain river or stream, most likely someone has attempted to dive it to recover the body...We have a river near my house that regularly claims lives of people falling in or kayaking, swimmers, etc..and the volunteer fire department dive it to do body recovering. In certain spots you see vortexs' and undertoe currents usually after the small waterfall that does the most damage and holds people underwater...I don't know how they overcome these features but I do know that they dive it and recover body's regularly.
It's a scary feeling to be sure. I was knocked off a tube and dragged underwater in a river where I live and was caught in a small turbulent area under a low tree branch like that. And when I was able to find the surface again, there was so much debris from everyone's stuff always falling into the river and getting caught in the branch that I couldn't push it all aside and get my head above water. Very lucky I was able to finally get out. 0 out of 10 experience. Be careful in and around water.
Deeper in there's zero visibility in cavernous areas. The water is dark and foaming like what I see in Scotland - runoff from peat bogs. Undertows and vortexes, a pure nightmare.
Stuff like this exists all over Canada just not as dramatically.
Our old farm had a river that ran through it and fed a dozen more properties. It was 4-5 foot wide in some places yet moved millions of tons of water.
Some sections were 35+ foot deep.
We lost entire cattle into that damn river more then once. Just Fing gone.
And we have pulled Sturgeon out well over 150lbs
There is also a truck down there somewhere.
how did a truck just fell there😂
Where!? I’m in Alberta and I’ve never heard of something like that.
@@crakkbone Northern Ontario a small area called "Timisking shores"
That's where I grew up.
@@father0f4ll It MAY have been intentional 🤣
@@crakkboneget outside and explore more. Im in southern ontario and i can walk to rockwood and we have a glacier park with deep potholes everywhere.
I've just found out about this quaint and rather pretty man eating stream. 3 feet across and 130 feet deep is incredibly creepy. I'd love this stretch to mapped somehow so we can see a CG image of what the cave system would actually look like and how far the overhang goes back. You're a braver man than I. I cannot stand fast flowing water and very deep fast flowing water is nightmare fuel to me.
I've been to the Strid a few times as a child, pretty shocked at how deep it is. Not that surprised though, given the volume of water that goes through it. I remember being told that the water is more dangerous than you'd expect, not just because it's swirling & all the undercurrents & mini whirlpools, but because it's so full of bubbles, making it much harder to float even if you're a really good swimmer.
if its dangerous why are there people swimming in it during the video
@@Blox117 they were swimming upstream, which is totally different. The density of the water alone would make you sink to the bottom.
Lol. No way on earth it's that deep. What shocking is people on here believe absolutely anything.
@@iang-lb7nx what about it. even if it was 15 meters it’d kill almost every person that went in it. it’s an underground cave system, that sucks you in and there’s no way out, it’s really that simple
Holy balls! That's one deep stream. We have a few of those here in Sweden too.
Say the stream is 1 meter wide and 66 meters deep. That is more volume per second than my 60 ton truck of gasoline/diesel. Truck was 18-21 cubic meters plus 33 cubic meters for the trailer.
That thin/deep river flows more than a fully loaded tanker truck measuring 25 meters long 60 tons! Just wow!
Great job!
Thats a crazy comparison Kaxlon thanks for sharing :)
I think you will find some of those deeper sections have regions of slow flowing water within them. This usually happens when water flows over a depression that is deeper than its deepest outlet goes. You essentially end up fairly stagnant water at the bottom being trapped by the rise up to the outlet acting like a dam so most of the flow occurs at the top above the outlet height.
What is those here in Sweden called? Know any of them by name :D?
@@SonnyKnutson did you find any of them? id love to know too
I watched my brother drown in a slow looking river..under currents got him, he’s a great swimmer and strong but the river just took him away…he popped out eventually not far away, we actually brought him back, he was so lucky. Please be careful folks around any river.
Does the sonar ball have an orientation sensor? The current seems to be so strong that on fishing line it would pull the ball sideways, making the transducer face down the river and giving you an artificially deep reading. It would seem the only way to do this accurately would be some kind of rigid pole attachment with s flex on the end that could be tightened down to set the angle of the ball's axis near completely vertical when it was held under the surface.
I’ve had a Deeper Sonar for a few years. It’s pretty well weighted to keep itself upright. You can attach the line at the top for just dropping it, or from just above its “equator” which works best when trolling or casting it & retrieving it.
They do also have a boat clamp mount and a pivoting arm for the end of it.
The mechanism is on a gyro inside the ball, so it is always level no-matter the orientation of the spherical case itself.
It’s not on fishing line it’s attached to the end of the rod.
I was wondering that myself. If the sonar was pointed diagonally downstream, it would get some odd readings.
@@Bmk87ca I saw that. That's unusual. It's designed to attach to line and float. But it makes sense that in order to control it in turbulent water, a rigid connection to the rod would help.
By the same token, the rigid connection to the rod was why the OP had to get himself into somewhat precarious positions to get the sonar ball to the center of the stream.
After hearing Mr. Ballen's description of this part of the river, my anxiety was through the roof watching you work your way to the edge. People have slipped on the rocks and fallen in. This has got to be one of the most terrifying places in nature...
Which video?
@@yeshuasage3724 ruclips.net/video/IDJ8_VFtexw/видео.html
Starts at 6:38, but the whole video is great.
@@yeshuasage3724 It's in one of his "top 3 places you can't go" videos.
YESS SSAMEE!! Iactually only clicked on this video because of Mr Ballen's description XD
That Mr Ballen video hits hard
In the deep spots I'm not sure you're getting the actual depth. As you mentioned, the bank is an overhang. When you were at the calm water you were able to have the sensor rod parallel to the bottom, which would give a good reading, but when the sensor is in the rough water both times it looks like the sensor is being held at an angle(for good reason, since you don't want to fall in!), so it might be reflecting off the bottom, then off the side wall then back, which would increase the perceived depth quite a bit. Either way, whatever is down there is still incredible deep, but it would be cool to map the depth with a more consistent method. That would be helpful to get a more clear answer to the original question, and maybe even publish some information on it!
Consistent method: Get a lead weight and some heavy fishing line and drop it down. Has to be heavy enough where current wont carry it.
The ball hangs freely off the tip of the rod, meaning it's level is independent of the angle of the rod. It's bouncing in the same direction independent of the angle he has to take to get it in the water.
@@theBrightman If it hangs freely from the tip of the rod then the current will be making the sensor horizontal so it's seeing along the length of the stream , not the depth.
The transducer needs to point straight down to get accurate readings. If the tether causes it to point at an angle when in the current then the distance will probably be inaccurate.
I could be wrong but I assumed that the sonar would be mounted in a gimbal inside that little ball so that it always points down?
Oh my God! I was so nervous for you going so near that water. It looks like there should be all kinds of warning signs and alarms. So, scary. My heart is actually beating faster watching your approach.
For us visual types: The deepest part could fit 4 school buses stacked end to end, or you could submerge the entire Leaning Tower of Pisa into that part of The Strid, and still have room to spare. 😳
Thank you!
At leaning height or straight height?
How many bananas long
@@inside1283 lol the leaning tower of pisa is the same height regardless.
Thank you
I've only heard the terrifying and heart breaking stories of The Strid, it's nice to see it as the wonder of nature that it truly appears to be. It's really beautiful.
it's probably very exaggerated. In reality it's a very short section of river and all rapids are dangerous globally, this isn't anything new
@@AverageAlien The problem is that some times of the year some of the most dangerous parts of the strid just look like a very calm stream perfect for swimming in. The strid has a 100% mortality rate that I know of.
This is actually insane. You would never guess it was that deep just looking at it. Mind blown 🤯
Because it's not
The Strid is truly an underwater crevasse or a thin underwater canyon. It’s thin but I truly believe that it gets much wider at the bottom and then forms into a rapid underwater lake with massive cave systems.
Good idea, but the wider it is, the slower the flow would be.
I too like to imagine things that don't exist
@@magnumxlpi What you can image does exist somewhere that is uncharted.
.. and tentacle monsters.
@@npcperson2158fish market 😂
I haven't been trained in sonar but I would have to imagine that if you had a better mount for that thing you would get a more accurate reading. The current looks like it's pulling it at an angle which I would imagine would distort your reading some what. I mean it's still crazy deep
I would agree with you on this here, as far as sonar goes i would say that one would not be to accurate in those conditions ? needs to be a fixed transducer on a ridged out rigger !!, 210ft seems a bit excessive to me, we have the Lune deeps out of Fleetwood with a max depth of approx 230ft and that gets billions of cubic mtrs of water through it twice a day running at 7 knotts which is just over 8mph,
Nothing he did was accurate. The sonar needs to sit level. Not at a single point was it level. He kept it tight on the pole, not loose as it is supposed to be. Soon as it is angled it bounces back on an angle. Essentially it is 100% inaccurate.
I agree, its no way near a scientific measuring. I have an exact same sonar at home. Though you can have in an arm on a boat, but much more stable then this setup.
It’s just click bait
@@natehale1982 yeah I had no idea what type of sonar device it is or anything for all I knew it has some internal self leveling system. But I figured that the chances of that are slim and the fact the current was ripping it sideways meant it would fuck it up if it didn't lol
Greetings from New Zealand! I just became interested in The Strid today. After reading several articles, I'm really glad I watched your video! Great job and I'm glad you didn't slip. Thanks for doing this for us all and I hope you get many likes for this great content.
Thanks for the kind words James! Hope all is well in New Zealand!
@@jackasnacks Hi Jack, we've just gone into a severe lockdown due to the Covid Delta variant entering the community. Still, I can't complain as our government are doing all they can to contain it and most Kiwis understand we take a couple of weeks of harsh measures so that we can return to relative normalcy. I hope everyone else out there is doing well and keeping safe.
Wow. This makes it deeper than the world's deepest pool in Dubai, which is 60 metres deep. Absolutely crazy. Makes The Strid even more frightening.
Dubai actually 45 meters deep or 148ft
Probably the most dangerous part is that it looks so beautiful and peaceful at the banks of the river.
Terrifying
I very much doubt it’s that deep
@@PibrochPonder Based on what Jim?
i've walked down this path more times than i care to remember for over half a century, and just looking at it having heard many stories of no chance of survival is enough to keep me (and kids/grandkids) well away from the edge, but 65m deep !!! i never knew that, it's pretty insane and i AM shocked lol, it's a fact i can use to impress my walking buddies, so thanks for the vid :)
My father jumped it when he was a lad and said it was probably the most stupid thing he ever did, given that he knew the consequences of falling in. Though I live in the US now I grew up alongside the Wharfe which, at another part a little downstream, claimed the life of a grammar school friend. The Wharfe is a treacherous river, full stop.
Your father survived to tell the tale? But how?
@@deepanshyadav02 he jumped over it, not in it. People getting out of there alive are unknown of.
@@e.l.2734 Ahh shit guess I misread it the first time.
That’s crazy brave to get that close. I’ve wanted to know this for years. Astonishing findings. Definitely deserves a sub.
Thank you err0r great to see you here man!
It is even crazier because you can't see what he is perched on at the 65 meter finding. I felt a little bit tense lol.
Not really it’s perfectly safe if you go when it’s not wet
It deserves a sub, but I don't think it'd fit in there.
Wow, I came across this river a couple of months back on internet and now knowing how deep it is it’s even more mind blowing 😍 Thank you Jack a snacks for your video 🙏
Ayyyy no worries Paulina glad you found the video! Also thanks for being here and checking it out appreciate it a lot :)
I subscribed and liked simply because you went and did that. Guys like you deserve more presence on here and definitely more availability and opportunity. Just keep doin you bro!
Great video just dont get so close without being tied to something. I was near there just yesterday evening at sunset and you can hear rocks being thrown around in the strid. freaky sound.
Wow!
This is hands down the most intriguing river on the planet...Its remarkably bizarre how deceptive the river looks.
@ᅠᅠ really? Can You tell me the name if you find out? That's insane
The videos deceptive not the river
@ᅠᅠ yeah there is a section of river that's a feeder to the lake Michigan that is electrified by the US Army Engineering Core to keep an invasive fish out, but to be fair that section is concrete and well signposted that it's electrified.
Cost in the high hundreds of millions to build and maintain
Try looking up Bolton Abbey stepping stones. You'll see the exact same river, about a mile down stream from The Strid. 60 stepping stones to cross the river.
Fun fact: The Congo River discharges the second highest amount of water in the world, yet it's only the 9th longest. The river reaches a depth of 720 feet (219 meters). For comparison, the Amazon reaches a max depth of 328 feet (100 meters) and the Mississippi is about as deep as the deepest part of the Strid (200 feet, or 60 meters).
The Congo is so deep, it has gouged out a deep underwater canyon into continental shelf under the Atlantic Ocean at its mouth.
The Strid is like a mini Congo, except much deadlier.
That's awesome work, not to mention a little nerve racking watching you get so close.
Although I'm not sure how much difference it would make it is worth noting that the readings in fast flowing, aerated water will show it as deeper than it is. This is due to the fact that sound travels much faster in water than air.
I had asked about it in the other video but the drone footage was really helpful in explaining just why the Strid is so unusual - flipped upside down is an apt description indeed! It’s essentially a slot canyon carved into the relatively soft rock as it drops from the heights above. Gravity never sleeps, and water never stops working either, you know.
There’s several local watercourses here in the Ozarks that have their own quirks, attractions and potential hazards too. One I haven’t really found a lot of good information on is just exactly where is the deepest known location on Table Rock Lake. Most people say it’s the river channel just above the dam, but I’m inclined to suspect it’s a potential blue hole (called a calyx) on the outer left edge of a right hand hairpin bend just below the Kimberling Bridge. The channel is generally 200-220’ here but some charts have indicated 270-280.’ Whatever the case, it’s reasonable to assume it’s substantially deeper than usual due to the sharp bend creating a local whirlpool effect and scouring the bottom out at the base of a sheer underwater cliff. There are several such locations along the lake but this one is the deepest.
Now that you've said this, I regret ever swimming in Taneycomo, because the surface looks like this strid does when the strid is calm, and I already had to climb down a cliff to swim in it in the first place and it was COLD so it know it came from deep. I shudder at the thought.
Ever since I heard of the strid I asked myself "why hasn't anyone put a sonar on a stick down there?"
You sir, have solved one of the longest lingering question I had.
My anxiety shot all the way up when you got closer to measure the 65.3m depth - lol you're nuts. Great video!
I've seen videos on how dangerous this Strid is but never really questioned how deep it is. But good on ya mate. All the way from Brownsville,Texas.
From Brownsville also, blessings my friend
Brother, you are the kind of adventurer I can relate to. This is the first video I have seen of yours, but I already know I’ll be watching plenty more.
Seeing such a narrow stretch of running water, I would have never, ever guessed it to be that deep. We have some dangerous spots around here at a point called Great Falls, I feel quite confident that it never gets that deep.
Amazing. I imagine standing atop skyscrapers in a dense city, with water flooding the narrow alleys almost to the top!
Great video, I've always been scared of the strid thanks to my parents telling me how many people died there and always finding it hypnotic, it almost beckons you to jump in. I knew about the caves and ledges but unbelievable that it is so deep, the power of the water is immense.
wow, I'm absolutely intrigued! Now I want to see full 3D scan of this ravine! \o/
Considering sonar readings depend on the density of the material I wonder how much the heavy aeration of the water in that deepest section affected your result. Since sound travels slower in air than water it would give you an artificially high reading, but I wonder by how much.
Having grown up in Yorkshire, with grandparents nearby, and therefore having visited the Strid many times, I have always felt an overwhelming anxiety even looking at pictures of it, and a healthy soul gripping fear of it. Thanks to this incredible and informative video, I no longer have that fear, which has been replaced with a much more rational absolute terror of otherworldly why-would-a good-and-caring-god-create-such horror proportion. Good job, Jack! 65 meters. Fucking hell.
It just gives me chills to know that it's that deep. I'd be more scared of it now.
Maybe He created it to teach us to show caution no matter how serene something looks . To always practice safety , to highten the self-survival instinct we all possess
@@jeffwarren6906 And most importantly, to lure children to their deaths. How loving of Him.
@@MrSpruce - " And most importantly , to lure children to their deaths " ? Are you freakin serious ? I make a simple " maybe " comment and an atheist troll tells us God lures children to their death .. Get a grip dude and take your Meds .
@jeffwarren6906 Yay, god dosent mind if afew people die horribly and terrified, as long as his lot is ok
Did i say afew? meant tens of thousands
I just happened upon a 'short' of Mr Ballen's about the strid. I've never heard of it prior. Beautiful & scenic yet scary as hell! Thanks for braving the slick banks to investigate the various depths. Wow 65 meters deep at the deepest part, which also appears to be a narrower part, that's 213 feet & some 3 inches!
Like a few other viewers I'm from the Pacific NW, Oregon City to be exact & very near what we call High Rocks on the Clackamas River. It's a very popular summer hang out, particularly for younger people. Also quite dangerous with a long history of drownings which
occured annually until life guards were finally put in.
Thanks for the video, most fascinating!
Mr ballen is pretty good at destroying the details of a story.
When I was a kid on the River strid, there was no darkness greater than the hearts of those who hid, below the abbey in caves of cold, the dragon they fed, he who eats must be fed, those who feed the enemy have run low on souls, beware the caves of cold beside the River strid that run beneath the abbey beyond the wharfe of Bolton Priory. 2 sticks will show the way echos the hearth. I will return again one day and free those that were lost, When I was a kid on the River strid
The fuck
The fuck
That's actually pretty cool , did you come up with that or is that a local saying in some locations?
Great poem
Did you write that or is it already something people know
The fuck
oh thats nuts, i can barely make sense of that in my mind's eye, glad yall were safe when finding this! regards from the pacific northwest of canada
Does a sonar depth meter give reliable results in frothy water filled with air bubbles?
Good question… and I suspect not. Sound moves slower through air than water, so lots of bubbles might present an errantly deeper reading.
Absolutely crazy, that is deep. I watched from New Hampshire, USA
Hello New Hampshire! That’s awesome 😀 hope all good over there
@@jackasnacks I watched from New Hampshire too, but I'm from West Yorkshire and lived pretty much on the banks of the Wharfe. crazy! It's Wor-fe. To rhyme with "war"
Howdy neighbor!
::waves from Massachusetts::
Please be safe! those rocks can become incredibly slippery and I felt anxiety brewing when i saw you going so close to the deadly waters.
The video would be titled differently if he fell to his death.
Same, it reminded me of my current trip to the Oregon coast. There’s this structure in the rocks there that’s essentially a giant horizontal hole/tube that the waves shoot up and down (called Thors Well, look it up.) And it’s absolutely amazing to witness because as the tide is coming in, the waves shoot super high and fast into the air from this hole. That being said, these waves have the very real capacity to come up, knock you off the rocks and into the hole, where nothing but sharp mussels and a water grave await you. Creepiest part is that this is the exact type of thing you can’t really retrieve bodies from… so everyone who’s ever died in there is doomed to haunt it. A truly horrible fate.
Anyway I couldn’t help but have incredible dread and anxiety knowing all this as I watched a man edge closer and closer to the hole, his wife taking photos and egging him on. Sure enough, a large wave comes up and he’s soaked, but luckily it was not enough to even knock him back, much less into the hole.
This finally made him back off and I shit you not, the SECOND he stepped back, a MASSIVE wave came crashing through that would have knocked him out for sure. I just looked at him with a stern face and said “good thing you moved, huh?”
It’s one thing for people to put their own lives in danger, that’s their issue but I was NOT prepared to see someone die that day right in front of my eyes…
I knew he survived because he edited the video.
@@that.neurodivergent Wow, I'd never heard of that, cool place. Similar to this...
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nigga calm down yo tits the boy literally survived and posted this video lmao
Good to see ya pop up on my feed again! I've seen people talking about this project since you posted!!
This is a great video! I visited the Strid once and stood on the rock where it would seem possible to jump down on the lower one on the other side..... I was told that many have tried over many centuries and fallen in, never to be found again!
I am amazed its 65m deep! the turbulent currents must be immense.
Thank you for measuring the depth, a job well done.
Yeah that rock in the middle is about half way up the Strid. The day i filmed this a young guy actually jumped to it. You can see him stood on it in one of the drone shots although my drone was fairly high at the time. I considered doing the same but i just didnt have thee confidence to do it lol
I can imagine over the centuries the locals taking outsiders who weren't very nice for a nice picnic swim on the river.
it’s a mind boggling piece of river, I was a paramedic and a member of the fell rescue who searched for them unfortunate newly weds, it was so sad, I would think that one of them slipped on the limestone and the other tried to rescue them. They found them down stream near addingham.
Jim thats really cool, do you remember much about that event? I haven't met anyone that was part of that. Would you by chance be willing to maybe explain to me what you remember happening and what you were doing whilst part of the search party? I'm sure there are lots of people would love to hear that story. Can be done over email rather than comments if want to :) No worries if you don't fancy it though!
@@jackasnacks it happened in aug 1998, it had been raining very heavy. We parked at Barden bridge up stream from the strid woods, I was amazed at the volume of water in the river. The wharfe like most of the Dale’s rivers are spate rivers, they rise and fall very fast especially in the summer. We searched down stream to the bridge at the A59, alas no sign of the two was found. Lynne’s body was found on the weir at Addingham 6 days latter, Barry was found on October 16 10 miles downstream. I’m glad for the family and friends that they recovered them.
They either slipped in or got caught in a flash flood. There’s not much to do when a person gets caught in there. One thing that I do remember of the day is, when I got back to my vehicle someone had smashed my car window and stole my child seat and various other items of property. Stay safe. It was a good video that you did and the one with the GoPro 👍
@@jimjoelliejack That is so cool to here Jim thanks for sharing :)
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This could be made into the most impressive and memorable constant product example in physics/math classes.
I find this so interesting, but quite terrifying as well. The only thing I can think of that scares me more than claustrophobic places and spaces, is deep water, especially thunderously fast, deep water.
Ever since I first heard about this river a few years ago, I’ve been really curious about how deep it is. Thanks for doing this
Thats insane. If this is true, the Strid has the same depth as Lake Erie. Wow.
Lake Erie is a pretty shallow lake
@@mikeholland1031 yeah and this is a stream you can jump across
@@garrettmarshall7664 I realize all that, just saying lake Erie is particularly shallow for it's size so not really a good comparison.
finally an analogy I can understand as a michigander...
As a lifelong river/creek enthusiast living in the southern united states, I must say this river looks like a gem. Gorgeous
I shudder to think how many bubbas would die trying to tube that river if it were here in the southern US.
@@WanderingVango no one. only in your little mind would you think anyone would try doing that on a daily occurrence depending on where they are located on the globe.
@@CB-rv2lj oh please, I live in Florida. I guarantee after a few "Natties" some dumbasses would give it a try.
Haha, yep. If this thing were in TX there'd be hundreds of us swimming it!
@@pullersinc.848 And you would all die lmao
What a nice video, a dude investing time and money in measuring an interesting river, as well as getting some amazing result, this is wholesome. Take care friend!
Watching this from California! That is so incredibly scary deep. Awesome video. So glad you did not fall it, terrifying to be that close! Great video!
I've been there, walking along, sensibly mind, knowing it to be dangerous. Deep spots of 213 feet though? That's intimidating. Really intimidating. Thank you for your efforts, you've added to the magic of the place.
I urge folk to visit, it's a lovely spot. Bolton Abbey is really cool.
Interesting and impressive! Although I suspect that the high content of air bubbles in the water will make she speed of sound significantly slower than that of pure water. If your sonar is calibrated for pure water, it will indicate a greater depth than the actual. This error can be significant.
Simply incredible. I like your low key delivery, too. What a beautiful place. And so scary.
I wonder if the turbulence is rotating the ball so it it measures slightly diagonally (away from vertical) or if the frothy bubbles do anything to the sound waves?…. Certainly staggering shape of a channel!! Thanks for giving this a go, wonder what other super deep river channels there are?
PW: I believe the air bubbles are affecting the readings.
The ball is gyroscopic and weighted, the sonar always points down.
Really interesting video, my girlfriend’s folk live at Bolton Abbey, I can’t wait to tell them! We knew it was deep, but nearly 70m! Wow. They say the ‘Strid’ gobbles you up, but you may never surface! Think you proved exactly why that’s the case! Great video! You Sir, have my subscription!
Ayyyy that's awesome man love to see a local in the comments!
Christ, just watching a few of your other videos! The branches, ledges and undercurrents you filmed at around 30m made my skin crawl! I honestly got goose bumps! I think it might be that you can kind of image you could swim (float) down the length of it. It seems so innocuous. Then the reality of the thought kicks you in the behind! If you went in (not to labour the point) but I think it would be like an underwater maze of ledges and you’d never find the surface again! Enough of that now though. But great series of films, thanks for posting!
Imagine too in the turbulent areas where a person would lose buoyancy because of the air saturated water and then massive undertows..
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Amazing. Mind blown indeed. That's then a contained 200ft waterfall? Hi from Downingtown, PA. Our Brandywine River looks more like the rest of the Wharfe
Amazing, visited the Strid many times since childhood as my Dad was from near Skipton and my Aunt and Uncle lived in Burley-in-Wharfedale. Knew it was dangerous but amazed at these depth readings.
First time hearing of the strid is from Mr. Ballan! Truly a terrifying feat of nature.
Quite aside from the fascination surrounding the Strid, I'd love to visit this part of the Yorkshire Dales, what a beautiful bit of country.
Cool video, thanks for making it!
I gave a like, which is getting rare these days because of the amount of content good vs bad..
But that the author asked in a genuine way and explained why.
Then off course such a small gesture will be granted. Absolutely.
That it's a interesting video about something that scary, is just a lovely treat
actually a legend.. you already know so many people randomly look this up hoping somebody does it
"How deep is (insert any river)" and you never get a clear answer. As someone with a fascination with geographic superlatives I find the subject of river depths VERY intriguing. Many major rivers around the world have undocumented depths. The alleged record is the Congo, at over 700 feet (213m) deep.
That's absolutely mind boggling.
@ᅠᅠ the Congo is a river. That is a completely different body of water than the ocean. Yes, 700 feet is a very deep river.
Your attempt to school me on deep water is just stupid dude. Yeah I know about the abyss, lmao.
@@codychickadee5095 It is like talking about the size of an apple while this dude starts spouting how big his second uncle's house is...
@ᅠᅠ its also not a river
I've been on the Congo and it is difficult to describe the size of that river. I saw sections where the banks were 6 miles apart.
Very interesting. Worried you're putting yourself at risk. Is it possible that the sonar ball is dragged to be at an angle from the point of suspension so maybe you're measuring a diagonal distance rather than vertical?
Yes but that wouldn't be anywhere near as sensational
It is weighted to specifically counter that problem. Irs likely only off by 10-15%
Absolute worst case at like 45* would only be off by like 30 or 40 percent. That would still leave like 40 fucking meters.
Sou brasileira,apaixonada por esse Rio.
Obrigada pelo vídeo, excelente!
It's been about forty years since I visited here. I remember swimming in the wider section and then walking up with the family to the falls section. I knew it was dangerous, but seeing your readings, just makes me think as to how powerful it is! I seem to recall seeing some names carved into the rock around the falls section of victims and there had only recently been a fatality (this would have been around 1982) so it was quite sobering, even for the eleven/twelve year old me. A beautiful part of the world but oh so deadly if you were careless. Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories.
My uncle Sid use to jump over the rocks with me in his arms over sixty yrs ago he was an athlete,but I wouldn,t recommend , it's a stunning places to visit.
ur parents should be fired for allowing u to go there.
But then again ur british , dont they start giving you vodka straight out the bottle around age 8 or 9?
I’ve been swimming there as well. I remember there was always talk of the people that recently died. As long as you’re careful and swim strongly, you will be ok.
Great video. I'm not from Britain so it is fun to watch your videos and explore a different part of the world. This area looks beautiful. I've been wanting to travel to Britain for years and the Yorkshire Dales is on my list of places to visit.
Glad you enjoyed it
I am from uk and it's just as amazing
Do the water bubbles or strong turbulence effect the measurement? What about a line and a sinker?
Thought about that too. Given that I got a few different readings I’m not sure. Hopefully a sonar expert can put some insight?
@@jackasnacks It would have since it's measuring the hypotenuse of a triangle instead of it's height. I'm guessing the actual value to be a a lot less than what you measured. Still an interesting vid though.
@@florianvanloo4109 thanks for the insight there I appreciate all the questions that pop up around this subject. I should of mentioned this but there are 2 settings on the ball. 55 degrees and 15 degree cones. I had it set to 15 given how narrow the overhangs were. Just for a bit more info
I wondered if the entrained air bubbles would slow the signal down enough to give a false reading too. But sound is only about 4.5 times faster in water than air, and there isn't that much volume of air bubbles in the water. I don't think turbulence should affect the reading. And if the bubbles were causing the sound to refract around the bubbles, I would expect the indicated depth to be the shortest path it was seeing (which is also another reason to think that sound traveling through air bubbles shouldn't have an impact on the reading). I suppose there is a danger that the sonar was at an angle to the surface so the distance measured was including some horizontal distance. But it would have to be at fair angle before that would start to add significant depth.