She must Sue him for defamation regardless whether he is lying or not. The courts will force out the truth. For spite donate the money ordered by the courts.
@@hermansekoto5273 I'm convinced this Guy is on drugs, he doesn't appear normal anymore, his behavior is questionable, his utterance is wayward and irrational, and off cause we know his rude and ill-mannered
Julius Malema always speaks the truth, captured media will always try to protect their untouchables, there is no smoke without fire and this urgent damage control speaks volumes , zikhala manje
@@chamumahachi5902Foreigners loves Malema unconditionally more than God they praise him more than God they think Malema is the one who can protect them Malema don't own south Africa or the nation of south African he is a useless disrespectful fool in the middle of nowhere where South African will never fooled by Malema only foreigners will bow for Malema he is not our God our God is Jesus Christ only
@@siphiwembiyela3886if he is sued he'll cry remember when former SARS minister forgot the name sued him, he said he doesn't know politics so everything to this guy is politics even lying about people oh the guy I'm talking about is Trevor Manuel
Malema knows very well that some people's names and their loan accounts were moved to Nedbank before the VBS report was published it was meant to target others remember the SACP name was not mentioned until they disagreed with the ANC joining government with the DA then their name was out in public.
SUE HIM..??? Has Julius Malema been found guilty of any VBS looting ???Let's be Fair now...But then why is it right to accuse Malema of a wrong doing regarding the vbs but he has never been found guilty in any court...
@janomesteve3129 I definitely agree with what you are saying. The court will continueosly defend anyone of such crime. It might be either they were or are part of the syndicate, or they were, or are getting a sort of a reward or a thank you gestures for doing that 🤔. Therefore, let us hope and believe the GNU will bring that 😉 to an end.
@@rosinaramahlo5539 this is why I keep on saying -- with all the praise Pravin Gordon was getting about he was fighting corruption?????? Really He was then ANC, why would he be the only one in the party fighting it, he then allowed Eskom SAA to go bankrupt, or I might be pre judging him,,,,,
@eisbeinGermany. You remind me of the Priests, who during the burial ceremonies at the grave yard, while he was telling the crowd at the cemetery, how good was the deceased during his living days, while his friends who absolutely know him better, and were around to say the last farewell to the deceased, as they were shocked 😲 to hear the Priest painting a beautiful picture about the deceased, while his mafia mates know absolutely everything about him. Guess what? They all felt embarrassed 😳, as they thought they were attending the wrong funeral ceremony. Therefore, they left and went to the funeral not far away from where they were. Unfortunately for them, when joining that group, they found that the person who is going to be buried there, it is a small child. They then wondered which grave yard their friend is going to be buried. The only option for them was to leave the grave yard, as the priest was talking about someone who is a good guy. While their deceased friend isn't even near to what the priest was telling the crowd about. 🙄 Without knowing that it was the correct burial, they have attended. Their only thought was that ,since the priest was telling something, they really don't know about their friends, 😮 as they decided to leave the grave yard and go back to their homes.😅😂😅😂😢
She is as greedy and as rotten as the rest of her ANC Mafia comrades...She wouldn't have been there without being on their crooked payroll for all those years.
He never lie he is lair.on Floyd he said he will welcome him back a day when Floyd already gone he was speaking of him.he must deal with fraud cause is the 1 who is implicated want to hide by other people
She said that she won't do that kind of thing instead she will clarify the matter to the public but you should ask yourself why won't she sue if it's not true. Malema is not stupid he won't publicly say something like this without facts
Sue him for a million rands OR more and pledge it to a charity! There is NO need to clarify to media - it will be like a coverup and defence. Sue him. The truth in court & penalty imposed will be the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.
Withholding of Evidence: When someone intentionally keeps important information or proof from being presented in a legal case, it is called withholding of evidence. This is a serious offense because it can prevent justice from being served and can lead to innocent people being punished Sad how malema knows of all this vbs scandals.
They were just both working in, one government and the other a company owned by government. That is working for these entities not doing business with them unless you are saying one of them got there as a result of nepotism. Otherwise we can work for one company with my siblings as long as it's not against company policy and I got in through the front door.
We don't have investigation journalists is SA we have broadcasting journalists. It's like they are there to investigate EFF only. So they had to hear it from Malema to make it news
Don't underestimate Malema he knows what he is talking about, if it's not true why Naledi Pandor is only clarifying to the public and not saying she will sue
@@nothembamakasana6277 all I asked for is evidence. All this yapping is unnecessary. Tell your friend to give us the evidence then we'll take it from there.
He also mentioned the justice minister before while the vbs issue was being pinned on them until recently the minister of Justice is in hot water. Then why Naledi Pandor is not suing him. She says she will just clarify to the public 😳
Those loans are not loan's, it's a kickback from VBS because they invented municipal money when the law states they not allowed to, invest in a mutual bank, because it's not a bank, it's a mutual bank,
It is just surprising to see how many people are protecting Naledi Pando, about what Julius is telling us. Of which, i would have been one of those people, but i have decided not to go ahead with that 🤔. I know we all admired many things about Naledi, e.g.her FREEDOM of speech 😉, her English language Fluency, etc., and we all love her doing that for our country. As a result, we don't even want to associate her with such corruption. GUYS, let us wait for Naledi to SUE, Julius, which it might not happen 😀, as the result might reveal what kind of a person she is, and which might cause her to lose a lot of respect from many of the South African community. Anyway let the suewing begin ASAP before lots of people forget about it. To see who is wrong, between the two of them, i.e. Before the evidence documents are being shredded.
Mr Julius malema why did you kept quiet all of these times days months and years why only now you can speak up when you are part of criminality or as they use the word lootings vbs ?why only now Mr malema?
Clement, what you should do next time is provide a neutral platform for the both individuals in question to argue on the matter. As opposed to you picking one particular things said in passing. Get the context first and then confront both individuals in a public and fair space.
Sue him if your name was turnished🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️the truth will come out, it was nice when VBS was linked to EFF😂😂😂😂😂you can tell Naledi Pandor is shaken she never thought her name will be linked to VBS
I voted a few times for the EFF because, theoretically, its principles are the closest to my political and ideological commitments. However, Malema's political hubris, immaturity, and double-speak are a political albatross for this party.
...l just finished watching Minister Lamola at QI in Washington DC...l suggest you watch Minister Jaishanker of India...in the US last year...l was not encouraged by Minister Lamola's input...it was too lame and weak...l think he didn't prepare for the QI Q&A...
Aa a trained criminologist who knows nothing about this VBS thing Malema os telling the truth When someone is falsely accused they never offer an explanation as a denial eh rhe fact that Pandor explains her house is in Cape Town os just deflection. If she was innocent she would be challenging anyone and everyone to show proof of her guilt Instead she deflects🙄 She would have said my mortgage is with Nesbank or Standard Chartered not VBS for example. But she didn't
Knowing Malema, he will say it was a political statement when asked to bring proof. Be as it may, if he has proof, let him bring it. Fact that he says there are many names, however has not made mention of them , says a lot about him. Why protect a criminal, we don't want statement, bring proof forward. Otherwise what he said becomes a weak attempt to deflect allegations.
But Clement, as much as you're surprised by Malema's claims, he was there with you. Why didn't you push him on that as a journalistic principle? Even with 30 seconds left he could have led to better knowledge than "he's wrong" push back from the minister
Can anyone explain to me as to why it is wrong to make a loan from a bank VBS Bank. What element constitute corruption. Is it because the loan was not paid back.Again is it because the particular bank is prohibited from ushering loans despite the fact that its a bank. I'm a bit confused and want to as to why is wrong in this case.😮
It's interesting that Dr Pandor at no time mentions taking legal action against Julius Malema or even that she is seeking legal advice on the matter despite some of the language that she uses - "attempt to besmirch my good name", "...without providing evidence to support his claim...", "Mr Malema has not been honest and has actually besmirched my name". These are strong words. I don't know what SA's laws are like on slander and libel but in some countries the host and the platform where the comments were made could also be sued for allowing the comments to air without challenging Mr Malema.
Many names are going to come out we are talking about the ANC and using the VBS as the face of the Eff and so far last week Clement was asking Solly Mapayila about VBS so it's not surprising about it
If Malema is lying then she should sue him for defamation🤷🏽♂️
Do u think his flying 😂😂😂😂
Sue him for defamation of character hayibo this guy is beginning to lose his mind
@@Tsidyannamohapi2381he is still oky mama
She must Sue him for defamation regardless whether he is lying or not. The courts will force out the truth. For spite donate the money ordered by the courts.
@@hermansekoto5273 I'm convinced this Guy is on drugs, he doesn't appear normal anymore, his behavior is questionable, his utterance is wayward and irrational, and off cause we know his rude and ill-mannered
Clement please next time on your follow up interview please call both parties to be present for answering
Exactly 😂😂
Julius Malema always speaks the truth, captured media will always try to protect their untouchables, there is no smoke without fire and this urgent damage control speaks volumes , zikhala manje
One of them is lying through their teeth.
Saw him lying in court a few months back about shooting live roinds
I disagree he always tell3 the truth. Do ypu want to tell me you think Malema didn't get the VBS money as he has been denying these allegations.
@@thembikunene4531 the money laundering has been shown in the reports. Brian Shivambu
@@chamumahachi5902Foreigners loves Malema unconditionally more than God they praise him more than God they think Malema is the one who can protect them Malema don't own south Africa or the nation of south African he is a useless disrespectful fool in the middle of nowhere where South African will never fooled by Malema only foreigners will bow for Malema he is not our God our God is Jesus Christ only
There was never a fire 🔥 without smoke
@@MapulaMakokoana the fire is in his party.
@@MapulaMakokoana foreigners love Malema more than God they think Malema can protect them or defend them shameless fools
If one says there are many names, he must be called to court to reveal those names
But what if it was a genuine loan and she paid it back Malema 😮😮😮we are disappointed by the your lies😂😂😂😂but what's new with EFF and Malema....🙏🙏🙏
You sounds defensive and you didn't say that when EFF members were accused that it was a lie😂😂😂😂😀😁 @@zamamanana1124
Which one is it?? Malema lied or Dr. Pandor paid back the loan??
@@louisbeaunoir6670
She said she never took a loan from VBS so it's a lie....
Exactly, Malema is lying he is a liar, when is he going to pay back the VBS money he spent🙄
Clement remember u not a politician, there are things even if u are a seasoned journalist you won’t know everything.
What I know about Malema is that he speaks now, and the truth comes after 2 years
Lol as always
Then Dr Pando must sue malema if he's lying
Malema must give us evidence
😂😂😂 I believe her 10000000 % that she has never done anything wrong 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sonwabileMawisa-yp2os malema is a cry baby that's why I want Dr Pando to sue him.
@@siphiwembiyela3886if he is sued he'll cry remember when former SARS minister forgot the name sued him, he said he doesn't know politics so everything to this guy is politics even lying about people oh the guy I'm talking about is Trevor Manuel
@@eisbeinGermanysarcasm at its best haha ‼️💯🤣🤣🤣
Malema knows very well that some people's names and their loan accounts were moved to Nedbank before the VBS report was published it was meant to target others remember the SACP name was not mentioned until they disagreed with the ANC joining government with the DA then their name was out in public.
True 😢😢
Sue him. We judt want the truth
SUE HIM..??? Has Julius Malema been found guilty of any VBS looting ???Let's be Fair now...But then why is it right to accuse Malema of a wrong doing regarding the vbs but he has never been found guilty in any court...
If Malema is lying, let her sue him.
Criminals will defend 1 another until they get caught
There is no honour amongst thieves
@janomesteve3129 I definitely agree with what you are saying. The court will continueosly defend anyone of such crime. It might be either they were or are part of the syndicate, or they were, or are getting a sort of a reward or a thank you gestures for doing that 🤔. Therefore, let us hope and believe the GNU will bring that 😉 to an end.
@@rosinaramahlo5539 this is why I keep on saying -- with all the praise Pravin Gordon was getting about he was fighting corruption?????? Really
He was then ANC, why would he be the only one in the party fighting it, he then allowed Eskom SAA to go bankrupt, or I might be pre judging him,,,,,
@eisbeinGermany. You remind me of the Priests, who during the burial ceremonies at the grave yard, while he was telling the crowd at the cemetery, how good was the deceased during his living days, while his friends who absolutely know him better, and were around to say the last farewell to the deceased, as they were shocked 😲 to hear the Priest painting a beautiful picture about the deceased, while his mafia mates know absolutely everything about him. Guess what? They all felt embarrassed 😳, as they thought they were attending the wrong funeral ceremony. Therefore, they left and went to the funeral not far away from where they were. Unfortunately for them, when joining that group, they found that the person who is going to be buried there, it is a small child. They then wondered which grave yard their friend is going to be buried. The only option for them was to leave the grave yard, as the priest was talking about someone who is a good guy. While their deceased friend isn't even near to what the priest was telling the crowd about. 🙄 Without knowing that it was the correct burial, they have attended. Their only thought was that ,since the priest was telling something, they really don't know about their friends, 😮 as they decided to leave the grave yard and go back to their homes.😅😂😅😂😢
Lol immediate damage control😂
I am opposed to the politics of Dr Pandor, but I have NEVER thought of her as having been corrupt.
She is as greedy and as rotten as the rest of her ANC Mafia comrades...She wouldn't have been there without being on their crooked payroll for all those years.
So you thought Julius was corrupt, that's why Malema said it's your darlings you don't say that
Malema is implicating himself
But Malema normally doesn't ly
He's a cske
He did lie about grid collapse.
He never lie he is lair.on Floyd he said he will welcome him back a day when Floyd already gone he was speaking of him.he must deal with fraud cause is the 1 who is implicated want to hide by other people
LOL Malema 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 My GOAT!!!!!! pulling everyone down including "media darlings" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Malema is lying, when is the corrupt Malema and Floyd going to pay the VBS money😡🙄
South Africans always come late to the party
Where there's smoke... There's fire...
There is no smoke here than the lies
Lol where there is cheese there are rats
Exactly ‼️💯
We still waiting for loadshedding to back after elections, this one must go and play marbles.
@@sonwabileMawisa-yp2osshe is ANC and ANC liars
Julius bring proof .
We believe you ma'am. Don't worry. Malema is unhinged.
Take him to court sue him pls
She said that she won't do that kind of thing instead she will clarify the matter to the public but you should ask yourself why won't she sue if it's not true. Malema is not stupid he won't publicly say something like this without facts
Sue him for a million rands OR more and pledge it to a charity!
There is NO need to clarify to media - it will be like a coverup and defence. Sue him. The truth in court & penalty imposed will be the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.
“In the VBS loan or something” - our leaders are so shit
😂😂”or something “
Malema forever "long on accusations" ; forever "short on proof" that's your commander -in -thief
Malema chose to keep quiet while the crime is committed.He should have reported the crime to authorities. Irresponsible of him.
Withholding of Evidence: When someone intentionally keeps important information or proof from being presented in a legal case, it is called withholding of evidence. This is a serious offense because it can prevent justice from being served and can lead to innocent people being punished
Sad how malema knows of all this vbs scandals.
I wish you could expect the same for VBS journalists like Pauli Van Wyk who didn't report their findings to the Police authorities.
I'm sure, He found this out after they were accused
Not a crime a loan
He said loan. This analysts are stupid. When does loan become a crime
Malema might be correct or wrong but the question remains "why was he quiet all along"
Criminals trying to cover up for each other... up to a point
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1True until they get caught
Loan from the bank it's not stealing
@@ZwaneZB It was a mutual bank not a commercial bank. No loans from a mutual bank.
Julius had a hand in the cookie jar
Gordhan refused until death to reveal names of Eskom looters, well done Malema and surely all will deny
But didn't I hear the ministers brother was the head of PRASA? Isn't that part of doing business with the state?
They were just both working in, one government and the other a company owned by government. That is working for these entities not doing business with them unless you are saying one of them got there as a result of nepotism. Otherwise we can work for one company with my siblings as long as it's not against company policy and I got in through the front door.
😂😂The brains in EFF has gone to MK Party now Juju is just talking to be talking 😢😂😂😂
Floyd is the brains? 🧠
Was he just talking to be talking when he mentioned the justice minister before she was investigated?
Nonsense
Whoses brains😂😅
The greatest enemy of TRUTH ARE THIEVES
Clement please research don't gossip.
We don't have investigation journalists is SA we have broadcasting journalists. It's like they are there to investigate EFF only. So they had to hear it from Malema to make it news
Exactly💯
True. They forever on EFF's case. That's probably where they score cheap points or get their bonuses...
Only Poli van wyk behind eff
@@MapulaMakokoana so others are Poli wannabes?
Malema is like Zuma, always threatening to reveal secrets,also the media is weak at times, he should have been asked to produce evidence
Thanks for sending comrade Malema in to black hole.
Bravo Mrs Naledi Pandor.
The truth will come out 😢😢😢
What i know about Malema he just doesn't lie.........sue him pls pls.
He needs to provide evidence. If he doesn't have it then he might have just caught a case.
Don't underestimate Malema he knows what he is talking about, if it's not true why Naledi Pandor is only clarifying to the public and not saying she will sue
@@nothembamakasana6277 all I asked for is evidence. All this yapping is unnecessary. Tell your friend to give us the evidence then we'll take it from there.
@@GK222_evidence of loan or something?please
Those who are saying Malema is lying. They really don't know him.
Malema once says something most of the things is true, we will hear as time goes on.
Yes Mr Malema...bakhiphe
Malema u a skelm u got from the vbs money pay it back
Kak praat nie !!!
Show us your evidence !!!
DomDoos !!!!
Really? How much?
Make an example of him,he will never learn to think before speaking
What if he is telling the truth?
@@khanyiswamagidimisi3174 yes I agree,but we're so used to his disrespectfullness,the truth always comes out
Produce evidence. Simple.
We need this Naledi proof no ways an adult as Malema speak ill on adults as if this is a game
The accuser must provide the proof or open a case, that's how the law works; it's an effective way, so she can go out to defend herself
He also mentioned the justice minister before while the vbs issue was being pinned on them until recently the minister of Justice is in hot water. Then why Naledi Pandor is not suing him. She says she will just clarify to the public 😳
@@nothembamakasana6277thank you
One of the few intelligent people here
You cannot prove what doesn't exist. The burden of proof lies the accuser.
😂😂😂bring it on HOLD THEM BY SCROTUMS CIC
They called her quickly to clean her name
She was NOT called, SHE called the broadcaster herself...
Julius is cross with the whole world it seems.......😀😀
Next week she will say she received a donation. I never trust politicians and politics in general.
But what's an issue with getting a loan from a mutual bank?
Those loans are not loan's, it's a kickback from VBS because they invented municipal money when the law states they not allowed to, invest in a mutual bank, because it's not a bank, it's a mutual bank,
Sue him get your lawyer's involved
Take Mr Malema to the international court....😂
@@RaZulu123 hehehe 🤣😂😂😂 do you think they will even want to hear such a case,
If he's wrong, show us. SHOW US!!???
Show you what?
I wonder why she intimidates him. He once attack her accent
It is just surprising to see how many people are protecting Naledi Pando, about what Julius is telling us. Of which, i would have been one of those people, but i have decided not to go ahead with that 🤔. I know we all admired many things about Naledi, e.g.her FREEDOM of speech 😉, her English language Fluency, etc., and we all love her doing that for our country. As a result, we don't even want to associate her with such corruption.
GUYS, let us wait for Naledi to SUE, Julius, which it might not happen 😀, as the result might reveal what kind of a person she is, and which might cause her to lose a lot of respect from many of the South African community. Anyway let the suewing begin ASAP before lots of people forget about it. To see who is wrong, between the two of them, i.e. Before the evidence documents are being shredded.
Mr Julius malema why did you kept quiet all of these times days months and years why only now you can speak up when you are part of criminality or as they use the word lootings vbs ?why only now Mr malema?
Malema lied about Naledi Pandor about VBS and how would he know because what we do in bank is usually private....😂😂😂lies EFF Malema....😮😮😮😮
Oh please sue him
Malema living in his own world aaying foreigners build south africa lol he thinks we all eff supporters who are lied to by his promises
Malema must provide evidence
Sue him ma'am!
He has no respect for adults.
He's a child!?
Clement did nothing here
Clement, what you should do next time is provide a neutral platform for the both individuals in question to argue on the matter. As opposed to you picking one particular things said in passing. Get the context first and then confront both individuals in a public and fair space.
The question is; have you ever get any loan from VBS?
Sue the hell out of him
Sue him if your name was turnished🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️the truth will come out, it was nice when VBS was linked to EFF😂😂😂😂😂you can tell Naledi Pandor is shaken she never thought her name will be linked to VBS
Now why is this not investigated..
I voted a few times for the EFF because, theoretically, its principles are the closest to my political and ideological commitments. However, Malema's political hubris, immaturity, and double-speak are a political albatross for this party.
It's clear now abo Clement have their favourites,why not asking her to sue him if he's wrong 😂😂😂she definitely did get something from VBS 😂😂
Im waiting for CIC come back on this 1, something is smelling here , he doesn't just say things like this let's wait.....
Malema should leave Naledi alone, hands off Naledi Juju.
...l just finished watching Minister Lamola at QI in Washington DC...l suggest you watch Minister Jaishanker of India...in the US last year...l was not encouraged by Minister Lamola's input...it was too lame and weak...l think he didn't prepare for the QI Q&A...
Somebody should sue him. Reactionary.
I thought I was a Cancer ♋, but it seems the state has turned into a bunch of crabs 🦀 in a bucket 🪣😕.
We don't care, weather you were from Canada or Sangomeni. You were there inthe VBS.
Malema his trying to drag every one witch is wrong
Let's wait and see!
VBS in Namibia, things are unveiling here.
I wonder what make people of South Africa to take this sycophath seriously please we have important issues to deal with than this madness
There are only 2 ways to know such info. Either from the investigation report or from Dr Pandor herself.
Aa a trained criminologist who knows nothing about this VBS thing Malema os telling the truth
When someone is falsely accused they never offer an explanation as a denial eh rhe fact that Pandor explains her house is in Cape Town os just deflection. If she was innocent she would be challenging anyone and everyone to show proof of her guilt
Instead she deflects🙄 She would have said my mortgage is with Nesbank or Standard Chartered not VBS for example. But she didn't
Knowing Malema, he will say it was a political statement when asked to bring proof. Be as it may, if he has proof, let him bring it. Fact that he says there are many names, however has not made mention of them , says a lot about him. Why protect a criminal, we don't want statement, bring proof forward. Otherwise what he said becomes a weak attempt to deflect allegations.
This guy is not a journalist.. Why his not bushing questions? When Julia's tell them he doesn't take them serious they blame him useless
Malema is one of the ring leaders of VBS. About Pandor, time will tell whether Malema is smoking his socks or not.
Why are people in SA so Obsessed with the 5% EFF???
GO get a farking Life !!!!!
😂😂😂She will never sue Malema coz Juju aint lying😂😂😂
Yet the people will stoop low to elevate all these corrupt ones
Take him to court
CIC never said something and someone prove him to be wrong
He stood that very low to drag your name down.
But Clement, as much as you're surprised by Malema's claims, he was there with you. Why didn't you push him on that as a journalistic principle? Even with 30 seconds left he could have led to better knowledge than "he's wrong" push back from the minister
Uyagula uMalema
Clament's default posture is to believe Naledi...Mmm lucky her
Can anyone explain to me as to why it is wrong to make a loan from a bank VBS Bank. What element constitute corruption. Is it because the loan was not paid back.Again is it because the particular bank is prohibited from ushering loans despite the fact that its a bank. I'm a bit confused and want to as to why is wrong in this case.😮
It's interesting that Dr Pandor at no time mentions taking legal action against Julius Malema or even that she is seeking legal advice on the matter despite some of the language that she uses - "attempt to besmirch my good name", "...without providing evidence to support his claim...", "Mr Malema has not been honest and has actually besmirched my name". These are strong words.
I don't know what SA's laws are like on slander and libel but in some countries the host and the platform where the comments were made could also be sued for allowing the comments to air without challenging Mr Malema.
Many names are going to come out we are talking about the ANC and using the VBS as the face of the Eff and so far last week Clement was asking Solly Mapayila about VBS so it's not surprising about it
Did she eventually come on the show ?
Some one is trying to stay relevant 😂
Out all politicians why her if she's indeed innocent as people are defending her. She is guilty
But she's a politician guys, she's got some twisted sh*t somewhere. "oh, I'm such an angel..." 🙄
There is too much dust about VBS. Somebody must clarify, Is it a crime/corruption to take a loan to any bank.
Who is not Dr in SA politics,these honary doctorates 😭
Malema always speaks the truth. Anyone can check his track record
@@kfutuahnkain86 really ??????