What Happens After 30 Days of Taking Steroids?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
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    What would happen if I took steroids for 30 Days? I’m a lifetime natty, but nowadays it seems like so many athletes, actors, and even social media influencers are hopping on steroids. It got me thinking, how serious are steroids side effects? Could I actually use them safely? I wanted to speak to people with first-hand experience. First, I reached out to a bodybuilding veteran to show me the ropes on testosterone.
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    Jaws is one of the world’s top bodybuilders, finishing in the Top 25 as a Mr. Olympia Competitor. Jaws won his first competition as a natural back in 2014. But when he started competing on stage against enhanced bodybuilders, the decision to take steroids was essentially “a must” if he wanted to keep advancing.
    Clement, a 26-year-old ex-steroid user, who had a similar experience. ”Yeah, the placebo kicked in right away. I thought I was the biggest dude in the world the next day, I swear.”
    Testosterone doesn’t just affect your muscles. It can also impact your mood, energy levels, confidence, libido… even your appetite. Jaws: “You’re just burning through everything you eat. Like, I would have a cheat meal every day and maintain six pack abs.” At this point, I’m thinking: More energy, more motivation, and looking better after cheat meals?! Where can I sign up?
    Then, they shared their experience of how taking steroids for the initial 30 days affected them in the gym. Clement: “As we progressed into the cycle, that's when I just threw weights that I didn't know I could throw.” Jaws: “Once the fourth week hit, all of a sudden, it was like I hit NOS when I was driving a car or something. My strength just skyrocketed.”
    As for actual muscle growth, natural lifters can gain anywhere from 20-40 lbs of muscle in their lifetime. But, for guys on gear, it goes up to a whopping 45-120 lbs. Tempting, but if I was about to throw my Natty card away for life, I needed to know more.
    Luckily for me, there was no better person than steroids coach and educator, John Jewett of J3 University.
    John: “A lot of the guys are worried about short-term side effects, right? You're going to worry about your hair or testis shrinkage or acne. But the true dangers that I would be worried about are the long-term effects of steroid use, which are absolutely very much pertinent even in short-term use.” Talking to John, he explained that even if you’re careful to do everything right, there’s still a chance you won't see the results you’re hoping for. And the reality is the side effects can become life threatening. For example, organ enlargement and failure.
    I realized something important. For guys like Jaws, using steroids isn’t about looking good on the beach. Bodybuilding is his passion. And in his world, the line between a winning physique and long-term health issues is incredibly thin. It was inspiring for me to see what he, and many others in the sport, are willing to risk in pursuit of their dreams. But they’re not for everyone. As a natty, building more muscle sometimes feels painfully slow. But it still comes with its own set of rewards.
    So am I going to take the jump and start using steroids? No. For starters, my Filipino doctor mom would absolutely kill me if I did. And even though I could probably see more improvement from 30 or 90 days of taking steroids than I could in my next year or two of training as a natural, the progress would come with way too many risks that I’m not willing to take.
    Disclaimers: Jeremy Ethier is not a doctor or a medical professional. Always consult a physician before starting any exercise or diet program. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk. Jeremy Ethier will not assume any liability for direct or indirect losses or damages that may result from the use of information contained in this video including but not limited to economic loss, injury, illness or death.

Комментарии • 1,5 тыс.

  • @defrary5569
    @defrary5569 14 дней назад +2406

    Huge respect to Jaws for talking about his ED problems

    • @sxhrgvs
      @sxhrgvs 14 дней назад +75

      I’ll second that. This stuff needs to be spoken about and well done to him for being so honest and open. Respect.

    • @3komma141592653
      @3komma141592653 14 дней назад +40

      Yea and to be honest, not worth the risk, getting some pounds of muscle more just to suffer from ED or a hearth attack.

    • @of5458
      @of5458 13 дней назад +7

      It was hard but he put it all out there.

    • @Adam-go8oz
      @Adam-go8oz 12 дней назад

      @@3komma141592653 Unless you already peaked naturally and are competing professional then you're just lazy. I admire the people who peaked naturally then only used it for competition because it is dangerous and you have to be very serious about bodybuilding if you're competing at that level.

    • @YoriYoiHitotachi
      @YoriYoiHitotachi 12 дней назад +11

      You don't get a shorter life span unless you are really pushing the chemicals

  • @T-rexBreath
    @T-rexBreath 11 дней назад +671

    An honest conversation about steroids is what the community needs. Props to Jeremy and his crew for this balanced perspective

  • @Afflictamine
    @Afflictamine 14 дней назад +2519

    temporary strength for a shorter life span

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 14 дней назад +22

      For 🎯 + our muscles degrade over time

    • @MR_THINQ
      @MR_THINQ 14 дней назад +79

      Yep - the trade off isn’t worth it, just look at Ronnie Coleman…

    • @jupitervictor6935
      @jupitervictor6935 14 дней назад +101

      @@MR_THINQArnold is 76 years old now

    • @geraldfisher6475
      @geraldfisher6475 14 дней назад +99

      @@MR_THINQ has nothing to do with steroids tho, look at jay culter, lee priest, etc.

    • @tainanking
      @tainanking 14 дней назад +24

      @@MR_THINQRonnie said he’d do it all over again. It ya it’s no even close to worth it. Not to mention how expensive it is

  • @flexermc4333
    @flexermc4333 14 дней назад +1084

    There is alot of pride in staying a lifetime natural. Unless you wanna have a bodybuilding career, Just healthy foods and working out is all you need. Especially for your health

    • @synth4tk
      @synth4tk 14 дней назад +24

      Why is that? Steroids is just like any drug. If you want to be more muscular and like it, just do it. Alcohol and other "normal" drugs are normalized so really doesn't matter... Opioids, painkillers, etc.
      You still need to eat healthy and work out to get results in the end of the day

    • @flexermc4333
      @flexermc4333 14 дней назад +122

      Just because alcohol is normalized doesn't mean it's good for you. It's horrible for you. Smoking is normalized and it destroys your body. Same with steroids. If falling off a building is normalized will you also do that? Weird argument.

    • @aboveaura4817
      @aboveaura4817 14 дней назад +49

      ​@@synth4tk Life is not all about muscles. You are giving yourself temporary benefits (that no one will care about anyway) while ruining your body forever and becoming dependent on external substances for the rest of your life. Sounds like you need to stop worrying about growing muscles and start growing a personality instead.

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 14 дней назад +17

      Just because cigarettes 🚬 are legal doesn't mean you should smoke them, the same thing applies to everything else, if something is “LEGAL” it just means the government wants a cut from the pie too(AKA **Taxes**) they don’t give 2 💩 about your health & honestly it’s probably better for them because they can put you on a whole bunch of medication 💊 for the rest of your life & make bank 🏦

    • @casebased8391
      @casebased8391 14 дней назад +9

      I don’t understand why anyone would want to have a “bodybuilding career”? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Imagine being bound to injecting exogenous hormones into your body for the rest of your life, losing control of your emotions, and increasing your risk of heart problems + premature death.

  • @bushcat12
    @bushcat12 14 дней назад +695

    So now we know how the influencers eat shit, sleep shit, drink alot and still have an awesome physique! Naturals are the ones we have to appreciate and not the ones enhanced....

    • @dessertstorm7476
      @dessertstorm7476 14 дней назад +28

      I think it's a childish mindset to assume anyone taking steroids is going to be lazy and cheat on their diet, like it's a one or the other scenario. Some people can and do all those things and those are the ones who get the maximum results possible.

    • @kevinh4869
      @kevinh4869 14 дней назад

      A woman won't give a shit how you got your physique, they only care that you look good.

    • @Angeljin-Fq5yx
      @Angeljin-Fq5yx 14 дней назад +24

      ​@dessertstorm7476 you're wrong. It's the worst possible outcome

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +5

      Fine, but you'll never win any open bodybuilding competitions as a natty.

    • @xtalpax902
      @xtalpax902 14 дней назад

      ​@@VernCrislerWell,i train to better myself,steroid are a cheat,you become "fake"

  • @Dr4g0nW00d
    @Dr4g0nW00d 14 дней назад +387

    watching this while I inject myself with 100 % creatine and snore 100 % pure whey straight from the whey fields

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 14 дней назад +42

      Jokes on you, I sniff Magnesium before I sleep 😴

    • @MR_THINQ
      @MR_THINQ 14 дней назад

      😂😂😂

    • @frakismaximus3052
      @frakismaximus3052 14 дней назад +1

      Premium grade whey?

    • @Dr4g0nW00d
      @Dr4g0nW00d 14 дней назад

      @@frakismaximus3052 Platinium Grade

    • @angelsaidferreira5193
      @angelsaidferreira5193 14 дней назад +2

      @@rianfittmagnesium doesn’t work for sleeping if people are on their phone 📱

  • @naturalforlife6741
    @naturalforlife6741 14 дней назад +183

    I'm a 70 year old man that has been resistance training for over 50 years natural. I'm very pleased with my physique as my videos shows. I have seen PED's used a lot in those 50 years. There was gym owner that told me that since I had been lifting for the past 5 years at his gym that I owed it to myself the start PED's. I didn't but a few people at the gym did. They got bigger and changed really fast. One day this young guy started at the gym. He worked out hard and started doing PED's. He gain a lot of muscle and eventually became a professional wrestler. He died at 55. The owner of the gym is still alive. He was on drugs for along time. He developed health issues and at the age of 75 has lost every bit of muscle that he had. I had my test. checked 5 years ago and the total was 325. I'm waiting for another blood test now to check my free test, SHBG and total. It will be interesting. I do worry about Alzheimer's since it runs in my family. I like my physique as it is though.

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +4

      If your test. is 325, you should be exploring the feasibility of doing TRT.

    • @BrickMediaStudios
      @BrickMediaStudios 13 дней назад +42

      @@VernCrisler hes 70. Perfectly normal test level

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 13 дней назад

      @@BrickMediaStudios Maybe....

    • @lyrkin
      @lyrkin 12 дней назад +23

      @@VernCrisler brother he's 70

    • @polymerizedrecords
      @polymerizedrecords 12 дней назад +11

      ​@@VernCrisler that's better than a lot of younger guys, and he's clearly in great shape.

  • @sxhrgvs
    @sxhrgvs 14 дней назад +166

    Really great to see this perspective being put out there. The youngsters need to be educated on the downsides. Too many influencers leading kids down the wrong path.

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад

      Really, which ones?

    • @kyecypress
      @kyecypress 12 дней назад

      The influencers are usually pretending to be natty tho

    • @RickinICT
      @RickinICT 11 дней назад

      @@kyecypress And no one believes them, and the kids aren't fooled.

    • @kyecypress
      @kyecypress 11 дней назад

      @@RickinICT but to pretend that they are telling to kids to take steroids is a lie. Nearly all pretend to be natty and promote their workout regimes and promo codes for creatine and protein powder. The very few that are very honest about their steroid usage actually warn people about the dangers and not just the benefits of taking anabolics.

    • @steroidsR4losers
      @steroidsR4losers 8 дней назад

      ...

  • @user-jh8eq9mn3q
    @user-jh8eq9mn3q 14 дней назад +232

    That’s why these guys at the gym never run on the treadmill… heart

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +6

      Lots of natties die from heart problems. Cardiovascular disease is not exclusive to gear guys. [The idiot YT algo is deleting my comments on this thread.]

    • @CarlosAM1
      @CarlosAM1 13 дней назад +29

      @@VernCrisler Of course it's not, much like how dying on a car crash is not exclusive to drunk people.

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 13 дней назад

      @@CarlosAM1 The percentage of drunk drivers who die in car crashes compared to the total U.S. population is .00004. How many body builders die from steroid-induced cardiovascular disease? No one knows for sure because it's all anecdotal data or based on small sample sizes. The best data we have show that body builders die at about the same rate as the average American.

    • @SpeedBoosted136
      @SpeedBoosted136 13 дней назад +14

      Nonsense. These guys run easily on the treadmill and outside. On steroids i remember that it was easier to run somewhere than to walk, because you don't even get tired or out of breath because you have much more RBC in your blood

    • @armandb.8737
      @armandb.8737 13 дней назад +16

      @@SpeedBoosted136 dud more muscle you have more oxygen you will need. Idk in what gym you are going but ive never seen jacked dude on roids running mill

  • @arcangelmaaze7804
    @arcangelmaaze7804 12 дней назад +28

    This is one of my favorite RUclips channels because it is the most informative and is calm, without loud obnoxiously annoying antics. Shout out to Hampton from hybrid calisthenics as well.

  • @benzonliao5493
    @benzonliao5493 14 дней назад +118

    That slapping of flip-flops / tsinelas at 12:02 is so Filipino-coded. 😂

    • @medicinalpizza
      @medicinalpizza 14 дней назад +4

      Moms is the best 😂

    • @jlpclevas
      @jlpclevas 13 дней назад +1

      I did think that was pretty hilarious too!

    • @BsetXOXO
      @BsetXOXO 12 дней назад +1

      where that broom made of nothing but sticks tho?

    • @wicked00ly
      @wicked00ly 11 дней назад +3

      omg! didn't know Jeremy has Filipino blood. i knew i loved his content since day 1 i encountered this channel but this gives me pride

    • @andreyllosa9106
      @andreyllosa9106 10 дней назад +2

      ​@@wicked00lyyeah i know right me too ive been watching his videos for a long time and didnt even knew he was half filipino

  • @mongolloyd
    @mongolloyd 13 дней назад +23

    Dude massive thanks for uploading this. Knowledge is power and I feel like so many people just aren't getting enough of either.. I've thought about getting on it for ages and everytime I see/ hear something like this I think again

  • @user-jh8eq9mn3q
    @user-jh8eq9mn3q 14 дней назад +45

    I respect so much these body builders sharing tough experiences that are tough to tell in front of a camera with muons of ppl watching.

    • @mistermiyagi6073
      @mistermiyagi6073 9 дней назад

      they're profiting from your clicks they are narcissist that bring nothing to society

  • @Amanda_move
    @Amanda_move 14 дней назад +272

    Bold face lying to ur mom about something like that is serious work lol.

    • @99Vood99
      @99Vood99 14 дней назад +37

      Lol if you have Asian/S.Asian parents, protein powder and creatine are considered 'steroids' also. Can't blame him for lying about the real deal. 🤣

    • @suicideisproofoflife51119
      @suicideisproofoflife51119 13 дней назад

      @@99Vood99 its a bot

    • @nelsonzhu7204
      @nelsonzhu7204 12 дней назад

      @@99Vood99 I started creatine last year and my mom thought I was on steroids and told my uncles to stop me.

    • @allmightlionthunder5515
      @allmightlionthunder5515 12 дней назад

      @@99Vood99 -
      ruclips.net/video/cvt_u4OZyGw/видео.html

    • @allmightlionthunder5515
      @allmightlionthunder5515 12 дней назад

      ruclips.net/video/TSj1iU35ABg/видео.html

  • @APR702
    @APR702 14 дней назад +54

    Unpopular opinion but RUclips was the worst thing to ever happen to youth kids thinking they should do steroids . 10-15 years ago no body was touching it except grown men. All the “influencers” are influencing for their own personal gain showing kids their roids and all their results it’s so gross man. Crazy how open this shit is now it’s not cool at all . Screw your transparency you need to be accountable for who might be watching your shit

    • @YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech
      @YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech 14 дней назад +3

      Nah roids have been around a long time. I remember when I was in highschool 10 years ago. Many guys were already doing it then. A lot of them look old af now. They don't even workout anymore. Most guys will take it. That's just reality. Most won't even want to workout without them.

    • @doctaflo
      @doctaflo 14 дней назад

      @@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech”most guys will take it?” absurd. OP is right. this country has had no problem selling out our childrens’ brains for the benefit of a few industry barons since before Reagan deregulated kids’ TV. freedom of speech shouldn’t infringe on freedom from predation.

    • @emartinezr
      @emartinezr 13 дней назад

      BS.
      Lots of young kids were doing steroids of some kind even 20+ yrs ago. Much worse side effects and risks then when nobody had any idea what they truly did, how to dose them, how long to take them, what to do to mitigate potential issues, etc.

    • @DarthFurball
      @DarthFurball 13 дней назад +2

      TikTok is actually worse because it feeds very short attention spans perfectly

    • @swoops41
      @swoops41 13 дней назад +2

      Social media in general. Yes kids took steroids before SM was around but the numbers and the ease of access today are crazy. Lack of education used to be a barrier to entry, but that’s gone now thanks to influencers sharing their cycles, ancillaries, and being sponsored by drug companies with discount codes.

  • @RatBoiRatty
    @RatBoiRatty 14 дней назад +7

    Thank you for making this Jeremy. With all of those influencers on social media it's important to have some balance in this conversation. I look forward to watching the other videos you plan on releasing on this topic.

  • @mfal850
    @mfal850 14 дней назад +7

    very interesting. great stuff and especially the a / b test coming up. thanks for keeping the topics informative for people to make a choice themselves.

  • @daemoneko
    @daemoneko 14 дней назад +7

    Hey Jeremy! Loved your video. And I love your research based approach to learning new concepts.
    I would love it if you can make a future video about ways to naturally boost your testosterone(especially when you're older). I've heard about some things like short but fast sprints, and some specific foods(more sceptical on this tho)

  • @darkscope2
    @darkscope2 6 дней назад +3

    I did gear for a year straight back in 2014. I was 21 at the time. After 2 weeks of my first cycle, I blew up. Everyone at work noticed, I never even told them I workout. After a year, I stopped taking them and hopped on pct's. I deflated like a balloon and got depressed af. You feel like you're on top of the world when you're on them. It's an experience I'll never regret!

  • @sethaaron95
    @sethaaron95 14 дней назад +90

    I took a T test two years ago after having a lot of fatigue, it was 362.. I was obese . I didn't eat fast food/ restaurant food for a whole year, ate super healthy , walked 10k a day and and worked out infrequently, a year later it was 833. I struggled to put on muscle the several years before hand and it was probably due to the low T. thanks for the all info Jeremy love your videos !

    • @ayushmanbhardwaj9884
      @ayushmanbhardwaj9884 14 дней назад +11

      833 is fking amazing man 😮

    • @JM1992
      @JM1992 14 дней назад

      Good on you brother

    • @Stolas1777
      @Stolas1777 10 дней назад

      Mine was super low they gave me testosterone gel but I can’t stand the smell of it. I’m young and already have ed problems I think due to health, stress and blood pressure issues that run in my family. When I did use the gel like two weeks after starting I couldn’t not have wood my girl was loving it, then it went away. I want to do a cycle to kickstart myself because I was going to the gym with a friend for months and didn’t see any change, it made me kind of despondent to it and now I’m fatter than I’ve ever been. 6’ 3” 280 lbs, want to get down to about 210 or so. Do a cut cycle and then do upkeep. Maybe sarms instead of real gear

  • @kismet8010
    @kismet8010 14 дней назад +19

    natty or nothing

    • @FreshRh1no
      @FreshRh1no 9 дней назад +2

      I’ll take nothing then

  • @ajamesu
    @ajamesu 14 дней назад +6

    Really interested in following along with your experiment, looking forward to the updates!

  • @SolomonClarkeFitness80
    @SolomonClarkeFitness80 14 дней назад +13

    This was a very insightful video, Jeremy. Good work!

  • @higherresolution4490
    @higherresolution4490 9 дней назад +4

    You did a really good job on this subject by conducting interviews with honest users and an expert. Excellent video and narration. I'll definitely subscribe to the channel right now.

  • @MrAetus
    @MrAetus 11 дней назад +4

    Such an informative video. Wasn’t tempted before and now it’s crystal clear it’s not necessary for a healthy active body building lifestyle. Thank you Jeremy for putting this video together.

  • @proddeen
    @proddeen 14 дней назад +20

    very informational video jeremy 🔥

  • @Khalifa5485
    @Khalifa5485 14 дней назад +34

    year 4 and still waiting for the new PPL workout 😢

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 14 дней назад +6

      “Train harder than last time” & that can only be achieved if you get cheated on 😔

  • @Monkey_G5
    @Monkey_G5 10 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the vid, this is the good kind of education and experiences we need to learn. I find myself getting angry or feeling down sometimes because I am not bigger, then the temptation hits. I remind myself to be patient and respect my body.

  • @guidopaez89
    @guidopaez89 12 дней назад +4

    Love your mom scene hahaha excellent video mate. Thanks

  • @unjaded2
    @unjaded2 14 дней назад +4

    working out to be fit and healthy should always be the goal. Yes most men want more muscle and definition. i suppose how much more is a choice each individual has to make. This post was a great and honest look at those choices. i look forward to the upcoming series of vids on this subject.

  • @vagra57
    @vagra57 12 дней назад +2

    This video was extremely tasteful and entertaining. We've glorified enchancing our bodies w/o a balanced dipiction of the risks. I'd love to see a breakdown of TRT vs other popular PEDs for future videos. Great episode and amazing channel! BTW i got ride of my lower back pain thanks to your video outlining McGill's protocol

  • @body_improvement_road
    @body_improvement_road 6 дней назад

    Congrats! You've done a great job producing this video on an important topic. I loved the honesty and candidness of the guys you interviewed. I too am a lifetime natural and I chose that path way back when I was about your age with the same concerns you have.

  • @b4ll0w
    @b4ll0w 9 дней назад +4

    I usually never upvote videos but the clip with your mom slapping you with a slipper got me

  • @DanielSmith77
    @DanielSmith77 14 дней назад +7

    I'm low-T. For me, taking testosterone was a necessity rather than a choice. Keep in mind that my normal T level is low and the supplemental T brings me up to normal. That is different from any guy (body builder or not) who is normal and supplements to be above normal or a high normal. That said, I can elaborate on one of the health risks that was mentioned: using testosterone can lead to heart problems, heart attacks, and even death. Here's how that works: taking Testosterone can trigger the production of red blood cells. Get too many and the blood can act like a gel rather than a liquid. This puts extra pressure on your heart. My red blood cell count does creep up so my doctor checks my levels a few times a year to make sure they don't get too high. I donate blood a few times a year to keep it in check.

    • @mainkyubatau
      @mainkyubatau 13 дней назад

      Thanks for sharing your experience Any other health problems you've noticed?

    • @MrSocalreoking
      @MrSocalreoking 5 дней назад

      My doc has me donating red blood cells every 3 months to avoid to much red blood cells

    • @AJourneyOfYourSoul
      @AJourneyOfYourSoul 3 дня назад

      What was your T level before and how much is your T dose and levels now?

  • @STOICedie1201
    @STOICedie1201 12 дней назад +2

    Professional guy saying "No one cares." sums it all up. Just stay healthy.

  • @jaywalkerbane8750
    @jaywalkerbane8750 13 дней назад +2

    Please do more of these types of video very informative and entertaining! Do you have a podcast?

  • @user-ke5pm5by7v
    @user-ke5pm5by7v 14 дней назад +5

    The vulnerability in this video is real. This is a great informative video for anyone who is thinking of taking steroids and even those who don’t want to but it’s great for knowledge. 👏🏼

  • @rounaksubramanian1686
    @rounaksubramanian1686 14 дней назад +4

    Wo this is a very amazing and superb video bro telling about this topic of what happen taking steroids for 30 days and keep it up and keep up the good work as always and take care
    Keep smiling always

  • @stephaniemilian
    @stephaniemilian 13 дней назад

    Definitely looking forward to your next video on this series!

  • @joelhunter984
    @joelhunter984 5 дней назад +2

    Been doing TRT for about two years. I don't take massive amounts and under a doctors care. I have not noticed any real measurable side effects. The only really noticeable side effect has been shrinking testicles which really isn't an issue as I don't worry about accidentally sitting on them anymore. I am sixty and am glad I started as the up side has been worth it to me. Anything can be abused and cause harm.

  • @ashantilematthew6277
    @ashantilematthew6277 14 дней назад +24

    I'm a natural lifter. Over 30. Been lifting all my life. And I just had a surge where I gained 10 pounds of muscle in one year. I am now at 210 Pounds at 5'10", at anout 8-9 & body fat. And the most muscular I have ever been. The Long Journey is satisfying. The Sense of achievement from the hard work. Being healthy and not having to worry about side effects from taking PEDS.

    • @JosephCox-yx4ds
      @JosephCox-yx4ds 11 дней назад +1

      I'm in my mid-30's and I've had a huge surge in leg muscle growth as well as arms and shoulders. My growth was almost 10 pounds as well. I felt a little young making old guy strength jokes, since all the old guys are lifting twice what I am.

    • @SciolismHD
      @SciolismHD 7 дней назад

      So there’s like a spike of muscle gain once you hit 30s? I’m 25 weighing at 150 and I’ve been plateauing here for 2 years 😭

    • @Itgetslonely
      @Itgetslonely 7 дней назад

      Im 23 and been working out seriously since 21 but i been thinking about doing roids but now i think im good 😂😮‍💨

    • @Zoltan1251
      @Zoltan1251 6 дней назад

      @@SciolismHD Yes, i can confirm as well. My metabolism slowed down and i gained massive amount of muscle after hitting 30. It was massively frustrating working out for years, eating like mad man and gaining only like 5kg of muscle. Now, im eating less and i gained over 10kg of muscle in just 2 years after hitting 30. Its all genetics, im surprised nobody talks about this and even say growth goes away, it really just starts at 30.

  • @gilbertogarcia5448
    @gilbertogarcia5448 13 дней назад +3

    Excellent information, Jeremy. A brief reminder: Anabolic steroids promote muscle hypertrophy, but it is not selective, so the heart muscle will also grow (risk of hypertension, heart failure, heart attack), as well as the muscles of the throat (risk of obstructive sleep apnea, breathing difficulty).

  • @jpanic2
    @jpanic2 10 дней назад +1

    The best video yet! From Jeremy to Jeremy! Keep up the good work!

  • @EEDad401
    @EEDad401 12 дней назад +1

    Excellent work Jeremy! Very simply explained with very clear pros and cons.

  • @FRHYKDd
    @FRHYKDd 14 дней назад +3

    I've chriped you before. But I'm actually extremely looking forward to this experiment. Respect.

  • @rianfitt
    @rianfitt 14 дней назад +28

    I believe the risks outweigh the rewards, there some many drawbacks that are being overlooked + why would you want to shorten your life span for temporary strength, when we have no idea when or why any of us will die, life isn't guaranteed, theirs no guarantee that any of us will reach even the age 80 years old😢

    • @HumanGorillaHormone
      @HumanGorillaHormone 10 дней назад

      It's very simple to do steroids with safe guards in place to do little to no additional harm to your health.
      The most unhealthy part of bodybuilding isn't the steroids or any other PED. It's simply being that size.. And secondly eating so much food for years and years.

    • @robyfaraa4105
      @robyfaraa4105 9 дней назад

      @@HumanGorillaHormone were talking about people who use steroids to build a shit ton of muscle. safe way using small dosage to use it doesnt apply to them since it wont build muscle as fast

  • @OniNaito
    @OniNaito 10 дней назад +1

    @JeremyEthier Off Topic, but your Shorts on Lift Form are indispensable! The only one you're missing is Overhead Press! Then the collection would be complete!! Thanks for all you do, you rock!

  • @michaelyeung2126
    @michaelyeung2126 11 дней назад

    Great video with very great educational content, and amazing guests too, respect!!

  • @gamerkyle14
    @gamerkyle14 14 дней назад +9

    That is a very cool idea I can't wait , obviously we are expecting the enhanced to do better, but how much better on a person Vs person basis , and trained by two coaches this is awesome , maybe involve a video in the video of you two and your strategies for their process and programming to see how mind frame is different knowing your person is natural and his is enhanced to see how it differs .
    Another thing I'm surprised no one spoke about, was that muscles grow bigger and stronger faster than tendons and joints which can literally have crippling effects long term , Ronnie as example or the numerous pec tears that happen , bicep tendons snapping etc
    Can't wait

  • @Kim-qp7lq
    @Kim-qp7lq 14 дней назад +12

    That beating from mom is relatable! 😂

  • @mattys3248
    @mattys3248 12 дней назад

    Awesome concept for a video series/study! Can’t wait to see the results of the natty/PEDs!

  • @GC3FIT
    @GC3FIT 10 дней назад +2

    Love the video brotha! I’m a natural bodybuilder myself and building this type of awareness is great for anyone considering using peds. Don’t think about the now, think about the complications you may have later. 🙏🏼 Great video as always brotha

  • @Nerazzurri87
    @Nerazzurri87 14 дней назад +7

    Thanks, that was really interesting.

  • @milkman9314
    @milkman9314 10 дней назад +3

    This is silly as i know most of the audience are gonna be teens like the ones at my gym who are gonna be trying shit on themselves. These influencers need to shut up

    • @lucamasio3475
      @lucamasio3475 5 дней назад

      92 minuti di applausi!!! 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @G.Abongee
    @G.Abongee День назад

    Jeremy,thanks for this clip. I hope lots and lots of men see this, there are so many out there using weird combos with this drugs and not conscious about short and long term side effects. So cool that you brought in the knowledge from people who walked that path. My respect to them for being honest and sharing their intimacy. Thanks again.

  • @ExtremeWassabi
    @ExtremeWassabi 2 дня назад

    I don't usually watch your vids but this was really informative and I look forward to the natty vs juice progress vids.

  • @TheAETHER22
    @TheAETHER22 14 дней назад +5

    I dont think you answer your video title.. Im at my 34, doing gym since i was 20 and only took creatine and protein whey. The question here is a test injection of 1-2 months with gradual dosage (not straight 500mg) would help motivate the body, give some impressive results and burn fat easier. And then of course slowly phase it out reducing the dosage in the duration of 2 months. Thats what the question should be

  • @Juanchomagro
    @Juanchomagro 14 дней назад +5

    im life time natural , archieved my dream physique after 8 years. i could use peds and get that physique in 1 year but since the athletic body is naturally archieve i have to grind patiently.. now im 32 people thought im in my 20's while my same aged friends looked older than me because the steroid abuse and shitty diet and habits

    • @robbertag808
      @robbertag808 14 дней назад

      Same, but I'm 36. I see people being 25, looking like 40. While I still look like 27 or so. Horrible for them... They will know that themselves, eventually...

  • @avivsegev8457
    @avivsegev8457 11 дней назад

    Super important and very well performed video! Kudos Jeremy!

  • @Spidey_Ethan
    @Spidey_Ethan 11 дней назад +1

    I know what the results will be (more or less), but even so I’m super excited for your follow-up!

  • @waldowaggins
    @waldowaggins 14 дней назад +3

    Bro “who is about to take steroids” has enough acne on his back to tell me this isn’t his first cycle.

  • @GeorgeRiveraPhotography
    @GeorgeRiveraPhotography 14 дней назад +8

    Such an honest and necessary video. Thank you.

  • @Wayne_jetski
    @Wayne_jetski 6 дней назад +1

    He’s right when he says “no one cars if you have an extra 5 pounds of muscle” people are not that impressed by it. The average person thinks it looks stupid. Just be a better person, that’s what will make a difference in your life

  • @stewsview5164
    @stewsview5164 13 дней назад

    Great video. Thanks. I want to learn more about this as well. I am excited to see your future videos following the steroid user and the experience of the natural lifter training at a similar time. This is the kind of content and information I want to see more of. Keep creating awesome stuff.

  • @pafoly8857
    @pafoly8857 14 дней назад +6

    30 days give literal 0 results. It takes about 6 weeks for the test to even kick in, I'm 8 weeks in and still haven't noticed any effect at all. It won't teleport gains onto you

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +1

      What are you on and what dosage? Why didn't you start with a SARM? I agree that a month is too short to notice gains and in that sense, it's like creatine. It takes a month just to get the creatine, SARM, or steroids at peak levels in the bloodstream.

    • @Niggychan
      @Niggychan 12 дней назад

      Depends on the dosage, and are you doing blood work to see how your body is responding? You definitely should notice something after a month

    • @nomorebrofist
      @nomorebrofist 11 дней назад

      sorry to bum you out but you may not be a hyper responder as you hoped, 4 weeks is enough to see gains come in, unless you're taking clinically prescribed hrt dosages, you're ducked

    • @rickkyle5107
      @rickkyle5107 11 дней назад

      Not even close to being true.

    • @karanbhasin2283
      @karanbhasin2283 9 дней назад +1

      You have been given wrong stuff bro

  • @beesmongeese2978
    @beesmongeese2978 14 дней назад +9

    The benefits of having high T are so significant and all encompassing for one's wellbeing that it makes chasing the perfect hormonal profile a worthy lifetime goal. You just feel good, do more, do better. I won't judge, but I would feel like a cheater if I did gear.

    • @zajczex1
      @zajczex1 14 дней назад +1

      You can inject testosterone and not go overboard. If you stay at 1000ng/dl this is the level many athletes have naturally. Average ~30year old male can have 500-600 nowadays, so doubling that is perfectly safe with very little downsides.

    • @PogChamp-rq3bp
      @PogChamp-rq3bp 14 дней назад +5

      @@zajczex1 I understand just doing low doses, but what about the theory of stunting your own natural production?
      So would you be dependent on the drug for the rest of your life? That's not ideal to me.

    • @hanskazan7403
      @hanskazan7403 14 дней назад

      @@zajczex1 injecting to go from 600 to 1000 lol you prob wont feel shit from that

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +3

      @@PogChamp-rq3bp That's why informed steroid users do post cycle therapy. Uninformed steroid users do continuous runs rather than cycles and never do PCTs.

    • @PogChamp-rq3bp
      @PogChamp-rq3bp 14 дней назад

      @VernCrisler oh I didn't know that. By the way, are low dose, controlled injecting essentially the same as TRT?

  • @jdemecdemac7115
    @jdemecdemac7115 10 дней назад

    Hey Jeremy. You're on t.v in my local gym every day. I always wonder what you're talking about becuase they never have the volume down.
    This was great content.

  • @CaptainBritain1973
    @CaptainBritain1973 14 дней назад +2

    Great post Jeremy and really happy you are tackling this topic. And also pleased you will stay natty 👍💪

  • @thepillar4473
    @thepillar4473 14 дней назад +3

    I’m 57. 208 lbs at 6’2”. I fell and look amazing because I stayed natural and take care of my nutrition. TRT is something I’d never consider. What’s the point? Only your ego will be satisfied.

    • @abeidiot
      @abeidiot 14 дней назад

      are you crazy? If you feel and look amazing your t levels are likely not low. If they were low, you would(and should) take TRT

  • @ayo9057
    @ayo9057 14 дней назад +17

    I’m considering TRT for the mental benefits not more muscle.

    • @thomasanderson9460
      @thomasanderson9460 14 дней назад +2

      Same

    • @kban77
      @kban77 14 дней назад

      Benefits? Like anger? What? There are no benefits for mental health from steroids. Try anti depressants instead?

    • @ruutjormun2262
      @ruutjormun2262 14 дней назад +4

      now that's actually worth it if you're an elder man.

    • @dessertstorm7476
      @dessertstorm7476 14 дней назад +3

      you can still get the negative side effects of gear though, I wouldn't do it without supervision.

    • @zajczex1
      @zajczex1 14 дней назад

      It's more than worth it, if you actually are on TRT the only side effects you have to deal with is accelerated hair loss and infertility (for me this one is a bonus). It also improves your health, not damages it, gives better mental clarity and better mood overall, decreases risk of prostate cancer etc. It's worth reading about it, but get blood test first to check what are your levels.

  • @cheveznyc
    @cheveznyc 10 дней назад +1

    My hat is off to your video. Honest and insightful report.

  • @JulianSirian
    @JulianSirian 6 дней назад +1

    One of the best videos out there...
    Good job... seriously...

  • @MR_THINQ
    @MR_THINQ 14 дней назад +7

    The problem with taking steroids is that when in the future you have a serious health problem and need steroids for treatment is that they won’t work, which means you’re highly unlikely to survive.

    • @VernCrisler
      @VernCrisler 14 дней назад +3

      Don't confuse corticosteroids used in hospitals with anabolic steroids.

  • @rosswhitton8463
    @rosswhitton8463 10 дней назад +3

    I feel bad for mark plummer, dude is like 23 and looks like he’s 43

    • @HumanGorillaHormone
      @HumanGorillaHormone 10 дней назад

      He's Gunna kill himself doing what he does.
      He's like Boston Loyd without the actual intelligence, morals, genuinity, lack of ego

    • @t28mcd
      @t28mcd 8 дней назад

      Juice does age you fast.

  • @maxioki125
    @maxioki125 9 дней назад +1

    I loved the scene with your mom, super funny! nice video

  • @ryanpatterson9526
    @ryanpatterson9526 9 дней назад

    Love it! Great series!

  • @lendial
    @lendial 14 дней назад +10

    we live in a crazy world where people feel the need to put their lives in danger for social media or due to body dysmorphia.

    • @HumanGorillaHormone
      @HumanGorillaHormone 10 дней назад +1

      Steroids don't kill people bro

    • @borky1987
      @borky1987 8 дней назад +3

      Actually they do just that... ask Rich Piana 😬

  • @animefreak3010
    @animefreak3010 14 дней назад +5

    I was about to comment click bait! But you redeemed yourself at the end with the case study of the natty vs enhanced. Can't wait to see that

  • @TheTrailDancer
    @TheTrailDancer 7 дней назад

    Great Vid! Thanks!

  • @julianyc9082
    @julianyc9082 7 дней назад

    Really fascinating. I learned a lot- like a mini movie on the topic. Fun suspense until the ending on what you chose.

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 14 дней назад +10

    Better to stay away from that crap. So glad I did not go down that route in my youth.

    • @johannesschmitz6370
      @johannesschmitz6370 5 дней назад +1

      also fitness is a lifestyle. If you lift properly as a natural and stay consistent you will see wonderful and aesthetic results down the line. No need to rush if it is part of your lifestyle

    • @bosse641
      @bosse641 5 дней назад

      @@johannesschmitz6370 ....I agree. Keep it natural. And the results will be healthier and long lasting. The problem is that people want results fast. A lack of patience.

  • @Scrungge
    @Scrungge 14 дней назад +4

    10:32 This is the key. Great video

  • @toma3valentin
    @toma3valentin 8 дней назад

    Good info amigo. Thanks!

  • @3rd_iimpact
    @3rd_iimpact 14 дней назад +3

    So I won’t go super saiyan?

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 14 дней назад +1

      Nah it’s more like kaioken & you saw what happened to goku after he fought vegeta, he couldn’t even move 😔 Krillin had to do all the work

    • @jupitervictor6935
      @jupitervictor6935 14 дней назад

      Turning into super saiyan is a sign of steroid rage 😂

  • @Joeybsmooth
    @Joeybsmooth 14 дней назад +6

    I took prednisone, which is a type of steroid typically prescribed by doctors, for about a week due to a foot issue, and I hated what it did to my body. The side effects were unpleasant, and it made me feel uncomfortable. I can't even imagine the impact that using anabolic steroids would have on someone over a long period. The health risks and potential for severe side effects must be incredibly high. Using steroids like that seems really dangerous and not worth the potential damage to your body and mind.

    • @Liaaaam
      @Liaaaam 14 дней назад +1

      I was prescribed prednisone at 16, stayed on them for about 7/8 years.. not nice at all. Would never dream of taking steroids ever.

    • @dessertstorm7476
      @dessertstorm7476 14 дней назад +9

      that is not an anabolic steroid.

    • @austinb2177
      @austinb2177 14 дней назад +1

      I took that a few months ago. It didn’t effect me tbh. Also had 0 impact on gym performance since its effect on testosterone is almost nothing. Prednisone isn’t anabolic.

    • @diazzsama
      @diazzsama 14 дней назад +3

      Is that thing corticosteroid? That's a whole different thing than an anabolic steroid.

    • @unjaded2
      @unjaded2 14 дней назад

      try posting something on the subject at hand. maybe you are low i q .you don't understand what you took has ZERO to do with this video.

  • @risky_scalps
    @risky_scalps 14 дней назад +1

    Very nice presentation. Thanks for the honest content

  • @trenothefirst2822
    @trenothefirst2822 5 дней назад

    This Really Helpful And Inspiring 💪
    Respect 🙏✊

  • @aeowid
    @aeowid 14 дней назад +4

    This was an awesome video 👏
    Stay natty fam 🙏

  • @theoriginalbreadcrumb
    @theoriginalbreadcrumb 14 дней назад +4

    Some youtubers claim steroids doesn't help that much. But as soon as you look online and see these 18-19-20 year olds getting 220-240lbs and being lean, you instantly know those youtubers are just talking shit to downplay the effects.

  • @ST-online
    @ST-online 9 дней назад

    Awesome video very insightful

  • @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad.
    @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad. 6 дней назад

    Great video. I'm a NASM-certified trainer and life-long natty lifter. I have this discussion with guys at least once per week. My most effective approach? Saying, "'Roids work," listing side-effects, and then asking them "Why do you want to take PEDs?" And keep asking "Why?" to the reasons they offer. They most often talk themselves out of it.
    Thus far, one exception: a person who wants to compete as a body builder and has a reasonable chance (based on physique.

  • @oommenthms2728
    @oommenthms2728 14 дней назад +3

    *How come there is no Derek from More Plates More Dates on this topic*

  • @shemian8757
    @shemian8757 14 дней назад +7

    Bold face lying to ur mom about something like that is serious work lol

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 13 дней назад +1

    Jeremy...i am with your channel because of your high quality content. well done

  • @InnocuousOctopus
    @InnocuousOctopus 14 дней назад +1

    I love that you put your mom in this video. That was hilarious! ❤

  • @sonicrocks2007
    @sonicrocks2007 11 дней назад +3

    I am natty 30 years old. Training for 1 year. Went from 60 lb squat to 310 lb. From 125 bench to 210 bench. Deadlift 100lbs to 300lbs.
    Gained 15 lbs+ of muscle in 1st year. People need to train smarter and harder. Most people dont need Steroids unless they are older and maxout their natty limit. But most people don't train hard, aren't at their limit, and don't train smart

  • @thesaskill1372
    @thesaskill1372 14 дней назад +4

    this inspired me to just stick to chicken and rice

  • @VincentSPICER
    @VincentSPICER 9 дней назад +1

    Very good video, including all the people you interviewed. I would just like to point out that I saw 2 numbers thrown out there: 600 mg/week and 500 mg/week. Those sound typical as "bodybuilder doses" (I've even heard of higher), but the side effects, risks and dangers, usually come with those high doses. Just to be clear, being on TRT (typical doses 100 mg to 200 mg/week) rarely have such risks. However, even on 100 mg/week, you still need to have a physician observe your bio-markers to ensure things are not going sideways (raised HCT - Hematocrit), and the LVH (Left Ventricular Hypertrophy - enlargement of left side of heart) is usually only in the very high doses. While most should not (if ever) use those high doses, being on the TRT dose can really improve things with minimal risks (if done properly). Attitude and counselling are important here - and your video here does a good job of that, giving good advice.

  • @user-hl6nq3dm9c
    @user-hl6nq3dm9c 8 дней назад

    Best video I've seen. Thank you!

  • @samouriguy
    @samouriguy 14 дней назад +6

    0 likes after 10 seconds. Bro fell off.

    • @protection_fire
      @protection_fire 14 дней назад +1

      😂 where did this meme come from, I’ve seen this in another youtuber’s comments

    • @FRHYKDd
      @FRHYKDd 14 дней назад

      I literally came herr to ask him the same thing Imo it's dumb af but it's literally taking over

    • @jacobramirez4894
      @jacobramirez4894 14 дней назад

      Ur comment 5 likes in 1 hr u fell off

    • @bighan2563
      @bighan2563 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@protection_firePyrocynical subreddit is where this started, now it's become another unfunny comment you're guaranteed to see everywhere

    • @protection_fire
      @protection_fire 13 дней назад

      @@bighan2563 thanks!!