i am SUPER grateful they added per-character MMR. i hated queuing into a game with a character i’ve just started learning but the matchmaker is treating me like i’m just as good on this character as my main. this was one of my #1 feature requests
other downside though people could probably smurf with that system like if they're macro and movement is already above average your more likely to get stomped on eitherway Unless they have a specific matchmaking for actual new players
i was playing with some players in the game vcs in the discord and one of the ppl i was playing with said that exact thing and then an hour later this patch drops
If this was Riot they would've added a shop and $300 skins already instead of fixing the game. Remember, they took a whole year to "balance" Chamber, and their solution was dumb af.
In my opinion, these queue changes are going to be extremely frustrating and overall detrimental for low-to-mid elo players. For high elo players who mostly play with others at their skill level, this is probably a net positive. However, by consolidating into a single queue, Valve is forcing casual and competitive players into the same environment. This is likely to increase toxicity, as some players will want to play to improve and take matches seriously, while others may just want to play for fun or experiment. The changes also heavily penalize groups with a wide range of skill levels, like mine. Personally, I was an Ascendant/Phantom-ranked player in the old system, while my friends averaged Ritualist/Emissary. After this update, I’ve dropped to Oracle, while they’ve been pushed up to Archon/Emissary. This is already discouraging serious players from queuing with casual or newer friends. In my group, I’ve seen this happen firsthand, and I’ve heard similar stories from other players after games last night. For example, one of my friends, who is less experienced, felt like he was “dragging us down” and may not want to play with us anymore. That’s heartbreaking, especially for a game that should encourage group play. Another issue is for players who dislike ranked games entirely. I have friends who avoid ranked modes because they prefer a more relaxed, casual experience. Despite explaining the concept of hidden MMR to them, they’re still hesitant and are already considering stepping away from the game. This consolidation risks alienating a significant portion of the casual player base. I tried playing a few matches last night with my group, which has a wide skill range, and it was rough. When our lowest elo friend logged off, the quality of matches improved drastically (as expected). While I hope the new anti-boost and smurf systems will work, the system as it stands seems to unintentionally punish players who want to play with friends of differing skill levels. I understand that Valve needs data and testing during these early stages of development, and these kinds of changes were likely inevitable. However, I worry about the long-term effects on the casual player base. If the balance isn’t handled carefully, this could discourage group play and harm overall player retention. Only time will tell, but I hope adjustments are made based on feedback.
As a fairly new/casual player with only 90 hours I really don’t like this change. I wanted to have a better understanding of the game before hitting ranked and now I’m forced into it
@@complex3297 My friends felt the exact same way, and I feel bad by playing with them since I was at a much higher mmr with almost 500 hours in the game.
Yup. My solo ques are more frequently accurately matched with similar skilled players. The group que with varied skilled friends leads to inconsistent games where it feels aweful to play as you are either steam rolled or steam roll an opposing team.... I typically enjoy well matched games where neither side is steam rolled
@@complex3297 I would assume this is just a temporary state for ranks. People complained a lot about how ranked worked, so I think they'll just have it like this until they can fix the real ranked que into something they're happy with. We're still in alpha so I wouldn't be too worried.
Ranked always is terrible, ive never had bad queue times (over 5 minutes) in my region (OCE) but putting people who want a casual experience vs a competitive experience together will never end well and casual enjoyers will just derank constantly until they go low enough that they are queued with people who also don't care with a few people trying to to rank up frustrating both parties.
I think it's cool but it's a little awkward if I'm playing, say, a gun wraith and now if I buy the Arcane surge I lose the gun damage bonus from Kinetic Dash being a gun item...
@roofishighcorp.associates2020 huh? I'm telling you what you said made sense and broadened the way I thought about the problem, it was a good point you made.
Bebop hook can now be cancelled by allies? Can't wait to hook my dynamo friend across midboss arena for him to cancel mid hook, midair, dash down and ult all the enemy team.
Great breakdown, Jonas!👍 I love how you dive into the new items and their interactions-super helpful for understanding the changes. Also, your insights on Valve’s adjustments to the Ranked system are really eye-opening. Keep up the awesome work!
It'd be cool if they made Seven's storm cloud offer like... a base slow on enemies or grant all friendly players Tesla bullets and a spirit resist if they're in the cloud. Or anything. His ult is still just a farming tool until super late game. But yeah, let's make Haze ult stronger so everyone has to build anti-Haze
The spirit damage change is nice and I like how they tried to make her be stronger early game in an interesting way by buffing her invisibility instead of just changing numbers. That duration is insane though.
Tbh I think McGinnis might be even stronger. With the amount of healing she can give her turrets those three seconds will turn into 5-6 easily. Deathy has a short showcasing it, it’s nuts.
@@boyman7823 The duration doesn't matter. You're literally never going to be using it, without being extremely targetable. esp considering it does less damage against objectives now.
I know this is easier said than done but people need to take ranked less seriously. This patch just reverted to how the game way pre ranked but now reveals your hidden mmr and has a per hero mmr. Trying new hero’s won’t be a problem because the ranks are some what hero dependent. If you are good enough to get a rank it will come naturally regardless. The issue is 99% perspective. Few people are just absolutely trolling to ruin games and when people goof off often their rank will reflect that. TLDR the game is in alpha and separating the player base was an experiment. As someone who’s hit top 500 in multiple games over thousands of hours the difference between ranked and unranked is way overblown
How is it awesome that casual players will be hated by ranked players and the other way around? There are people who want to have fun and try funny stuff out and there are people who want to win. Most importantly, some people will want to be able to do both things in different game modes. Sorry but this is stupid.
Only thing with this new change so far in ranked ive had good comms and casual it doesnt matter now all my games are hit or miss for people that wanna work together
Lots of people super upset, but this game is early development. It's crazy how playable the game is at the moment; enough for people to treat it like a finished game getting constant re-balance. Personally, I think this is kinda dangerous because it blurs the line for players. I really do often forget I haven't paid a dime for this game and there is no monetary gain for this game yet. I'm super optimistic for the game because so many people are super passionate about their takes and saying stuff like "the game is ruined." Like every 2 weeks the game gets a pretty big change, so we're in a constant state of "it's so joever -> we're so back" for a game that's early development. I do think the whole testing system is odd though. Like making small/slight balance changes week over week only for a huge change every 2 weeks is kinda odd? I know balancing is impossible with this system, so I'm assuming thats just done to keep people playing the game. I just hope it doesn't interfere with the resulting launch state of the game. I understand the subtle map changes to really hammer out maximizing the map quality; the heroes, not so much.
Why did they give ivy this I love playing ivy but after this I feel like they are going to nerf the rest of her kit due to this ult movement speed, she was doing fine she didn't need this. Let me guess they will keep this but mext patch nerf the flying duration from 15 seconds to 6 or something
They need to give Yamato more viable upgrades to her ult when it’s leveled. I could understand the nerf for early game but it’s not realistically viable later
We shouldn't really be upset with this if it is based off the skill you have with a certain character come on people of Earth. I'm a solo player and i'm loving the update
Didn't read all the patch notes, went against a Haze literally every game since the patch, had to go read patch notes after because she kept running over the lobby. Metal skin actually useless against her ult now, and with every Haze buying Arcane Surge it's hard to get out of the range of it too. I legit don't know what to do when a Haze buys Unstoppable now. -Sprint speed on tier 1 of stealth means she can roam way faster at early levels -mixed damage from spirit damage on ult means itemizing against her is twice as hard -Arcane Surge is just insane on anyone who has a big AoE spirit scaling skill like Haze ult is now -Late game Haze with max stealth can dodge your abilities Devs, pls revert Haze changes or nerf Fixation hard hard
I'm not really a fan of casual and ranked being combined. I really liked the separate ranked queue, I felt that the quality of matches was consistently much higher. Additionally, I am MUCH higher mmr/rank than my friends who I still like to play with. It kinda sucks we can only queue in ranked together now, it's honestly kinda a shit deal for any of the Randoms who get queued with us who may want to have a more serious ranked match but it's just me and my friends goofing off. Were people having problems with queue times in ranked? I was in high phantom-mid ascendant, and I don't think my queue times were ever more than like a minute or two.
I should add that I am assuming this is probably only going to be combined while the game is in pre-release. Hopefully, on release, we'll have a separate solo/duo ranked queue and a separate casual mode.
You can still hire people to boost you? Just have them play from a customer account that is similar MMR. (For Duo Boost) and for single boost they just play on your account.
I don't know if this true or not. But someone suspected that the game has like a hardware detection for matchmaking to prevent smurfing. Because they tested themselves playing with a new fresh account and then got rank similar to their main account. They also compared to other pros like MikaelS who also got Eternus on his fresh account. Even though it can be because of the player's performance, the game didn't even have that much data to prove that they're belong on said rank. I assume both are playing both of their accounts (main and fresh) on their own PC, hence their fresh account got similar rank like main account. So maintaining an account with a low MMR requires them to play bad, which also might affected their main account.
36:52 wtf. so thats what happened when i used metal skin and walked into a haze ult thinking im going to absolutely destroy her but then the opposite happened. 💀
I still feel like there needs to be a separate unranked and ranked modes because I want to separation between seriousness and experimentation. For example, I suck at ivy but I want to learn how to play her. I usually play paradox and wraith but now that every match matters, you have to learn a character very quickly or stick to who you’re good at
@@Saroniss Why people care so much about their rank on an early development game? When the game wasn't have a ranked mode it was fine. But now all of the sudden there's so many insufferable people cares too much about their rank. The game already has hidden MMR anyway and what they did is revealing that hidden rank.
@@Saroniss Yeah but when your hero MMR with that hero is lower, you are going to fight less experienced opponents. So theoretically you've got the same chance to win. All you're saying is that "if you lose, your rank is gonna drop" which is true no matter what.
The game was not ready for ranked yet. I think they bit off a little more than they could chew with splitting the player pool. This update shouldve been what we got instead of ranked.
I fucking love it because its been so miserable to only solo queue for the last few weeks, causing tons of people to leave the game. High elo basically stopped playing overall due to long queue times. I understand its gonna suck when they mix casual and ranked players but pretty sure its just temporary because of the playerbase size until they have a better ranked system in place
@@AverageJonas Totally get it on it being an issue on the top end of the rank queue especially with rank redistribution making the top ranks smaller. I was Phantom 3 before rank redistribution and the queue times were never bad. I hope it’s temporary like you said, it’s still alpha after all, and they launch with a solo and group mode for ranked like League of Legends for example. Still good to experiment!
Spirit amp is your base spirit power getting amplified Procs are basically when you hit someone with gun or abilities & grants you a buff or debuff to other enemies
I feel like whenever the dev added something, they make it a super broken thing and then refined it later. Same goes to Shiv back then and then Mirage.
Silencer looks broken.... as in they threw it on the floor and stamped on its remains. Correct me if I am wrong, but 1.1% build up per bullet requires a minimum of 91 bullets to fully proc yeah? So unless your weapon is automatic it is basically useless. Also once you finally build it up it finally does something for only 2/6 seconds for the silence/spirit dmg debuff?
Disagree with update about matchmaking rework. If you play hero’s that take a minute to get online (IE haze) and your whole team doesn’t give a shit about MMR) it automatically hurts you to the point if you are playing for rank, then you better only play hero’s that can hard carry and end quick.
@@jashhandy358 And see this is the issue since technically you are both right. There are players who don't give a rip because (of many reasons) its a game in early dev that is probably going to reset, but who is to say @gears542 is wrong for caring about his MMR even at this point? People get enjoyment from games in different ways. Some from being goofy and casually playing, and others by being competitive and seeing improvement/growth. That is reason why there are ranked and "unranked" (hidden mmr masks this for most games) ques. Both perspectives are right, because who is to determine the "correct" way to have fun in a game?
@@SamSyncedI think you are very correct but in terms of this game I think the choice to merge the ranked q with unranked was the right one. Imo I think the match quality and queue times will be better and it’ll be healthier for the game as it is early access
@@jashhandy358 I think your point has a lot more validity than people understand. As much as I get people caring about their rank, the current objective of the devs is to gather data and insight on their game before launch, meaning they want people to play as many games possible. If merging the queues lowers queue times and let's them develop better through gathering more data, that should be their main priority. The game isn't a live service title at the moment, even though some players want to treat it that way. It's an alpha TEST, meant to buffer out issues. That doesn't mean I don't think they should have separate queues, but a lot of players seem to have forgotten the entire point of why they have access to the game in the first place.
I’m going to be honest here: I don’t like the changes to the matchmaking system at all. It actively creates a hostile environment between players who want to take the game seriously and those who just want to play casually. That’s not fun for anyone. Additionally, the core MMR feature and how rank is awarded feel very broken. From what I understand-and based on what I’ve seen on my own profile-you can make the game think you’re at an Archon or higher skill level by playing fewer heroes and ensuring that most of your win-to-loss ratios with those heroes are positive. This new system actually discourages players from experimenting and trying new characters. After all, what’s the point of playing with a new character if it’s going to hurt my overall rank? In conclusion, I don’t think this change will last long. It’s only going to divide and alienate the player base. And when you have a game that’s still in beta, you need players to stick around and want to keep playing even after the game’s official release.
I have never touched ranked nor did I want to play it cuz of all the sweating and overall less forgiving environment and now I am being forced to which makes me not want to play. I feel as though of the fun is gone, honestly its really sad. This whole change feels really abrupt and forced most likely due to the recent huge wave of criticism towards ranked since it was so basic. So Valve said: "Oh ranked is not good? The queues suck and dont have enough players to make lobbies with players of equal skill? Just force everyone to play it, that will fix it."
Would love if Valve re-wroded the "This game is now safe to leave without penalty" literally the most broken thing in the game. People think they wont get MMR and Win/Loss by leaving.
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i am SUPER grateful they added per-character MMR. i hated queuing into a game with a character i’ve just started learning but the matchmaker is treating me like i’m just as good on this character as my main. this was one of my #1 feature requests
other downside though people could probably smurf with that system
like if they're macro and movement is already above average
your more likely to get stomped on
eitherway
Unless they have a specific matchmaking for actual new players
@@lag00n54the "core MMR" still counts, so I don't think smurfs will get into a newbies' lobby. Depends on core/character MMR ratio
It's always been there just hidden from you
i was playing with some players in the game vcs in the discord and one of the ppl i was playing with said that exact thing and then an hour later this patch drops
@@lag00n54 people will always find a way to abuse the system unfortunately.
If this was riot they would’ve nerfed all forms of healing and anti heal only to add a champion with crazy healing.
+ Team 4 from Blizz.
I find it funny that this just doesn't happen
If this was Riot they would've added a shop and $300 skins already instead of fixing the game. Remember, they took a whole year to "balance" Chamber, and their solution was dumb af.
@@CuteMegaPanda It's 2024 and you're whining about an art team in comparison to a game balance team
@@CuteMegaPandathe people making the skins have never balanced the game lol
In my opinion, these queue changes are going to be extremely frustrating and overall detrimental for low-to-mid elo players. For high elo players who mostly play with others at their skill level, this is probably a net positive. However, by consolidating into a single queue, Valve is forcing casual and competitive players into the same environment. This is likely to increase toxicity, as some players will want to play to improve and take matches seriously, while others may just want to play for fun or experiment.
The changes also heavily penalize groups with a wide range of skill levels, like mine. Personally, I was an Ascendant/Phantom-ranked player in the old system, while my friends averaged Ritualist/Emissary. After this update, I’ve dropped to Oracle, while they’ve been pushed up to Archon/Emissary. This is already discouraging serious players from queuing with casual or newer friends. In my group, I’ve seen this happen firsthand, and I’ve heard similar stories from other players after games last night. For example, one of my friends, who is less experienced, felt like he was “dragging us down” and may not want to play with us anymore. That’s heartbreaking, especially for a game that should encourage group play.
Another issue is for players who dislike ranked games entirely. I have friends who avoid ranked modes because they prefer a more relaxed, casual experience. Despite explaining the concept of hidden MMR to them, they’re still hesitant and are already considering stepping away from the game. This consolidation risks alienating a significant portion of the casual player base.
I tried playing a few matches last night with my group, which has a wide skill range, and it was rough. When our lowest elo friend logged off, the quality of matches improved drastically (as expected). While I hope the new anti-boost and smurf systems will work, the system as it stands seems to unintentionally punish players who want to play with friends of differing skill levels.
I understand that Valve needs data and testing during these early stages of development, and these kinds of changes were likely inevitable. However, I worry about the long-term effects on the casual player base. If the balance isn’t handled carefully, this could discourage group play and harm overall player retention. Only time will tell, but I hope adjustments are made based on feedback.
Other than that. This patch looks extremely promising!
As a fairly new/casual player with only 90 hours I really don’t like this change. I wanted to have a better understanding of the game before hitting ranked and now I’m forced into it
@@complex3297 My friends felt the exact same way, and I feel bad by playing with them since I was at a much higher mmr with almost 500 hours in the game.
Yup. My solo ques are more frequently accurately matched with similar skilled players. The group que with varied skilled friends leads to inconsistent games where it feels aweful to play as you are either steam rolled or steam roll an opposing team.... I typically enjoy well matched games where neither side is steam rolled
@@complex3297 I would assume this is just a temporary state for ranks. People complained a lot about how ranked worked, so I think they'll just have it like this until they can fix the real ranked que into something they're happy with. We're still in alpha so I wouldn't be too worried.
Ranked always is terrible, ive never had bad queue times (over 5 minutes) in my region (OCE) but putting people who want a casual experience vs a competitive experience together will never end well and casual enjoyers will just derank constantly until they go low enough that they are queued with people who also don't care with a few people trying to to rank up frustrating both parties.
Items that upgrade into a different color item is wild
I think it's cool but it's a little awkward if I'm playing, say, a gun wraith and now if I buy the Arcane surge I lose the gun damage bonus from Kinetic Dash being a gun item...
@@outtaherelikevladimir7093that means you just buy the first item. The second item is not for your build.
@@outtaherelikevladimir7093 the damage is not lost, you can now put a t3 or t4 item in that slot, and still have kinetic dash.
@@roofishighcorp.associates2020 Y'know what, that's actually a great point, I hadn't thought of it like that.
@roofishighcorp.associates2020 huh? I'm telling you what you said made sense and broadened the way I thought about the problem, it was a good point you made.
Bebop hook can now be cancelled by allies? Can't wait to hook my dynamo friend across midboss arena for him to cancel mid hook, midair, dash down and ult all the enemy team.
already did this with my Haze in a teamfight lol
Missed this just had a friendly beebop hook me out of the rejuv for an enemy to steal it...
Can't he ult before he's being hooked?
Great breakdown, Jonas!👍 I love how you dive into the new items and their interactions-super helpful for understanding the changes. Also, your insights on Valve’s adjustments to the Ranked system are really eye-opening. Keep up the awesome work!
It'd be cool if they made Seven's storm cloud offer like... a base slow on enemies or grant all friendly players Tesla bullets and a spirit resist if they're in the cloud.
Or anything. His ult is still just a farming tool until super late game.
But yeah, let's make Haze ult stronger so everyone has to build anti-Haze
Buffing allies is a sick idea! you should totally throw that idea into the valve box! It might actually make it functional
Yeah maybe the storm cloud grants allies 50% of sevens spirit resist or maybe just a set amount. Support seven could be fun
that haze ult is actually hilarious, is she going to be completely busted in comp now?? surely she gets instabanned in tourneys this patch
The spirit damage change is nice and I like how they tried to make her be stronger early game in an interesting way by buffing her invisibility instead of just changing numbers. That duration is insane though.
Tbh I think McGinnis might be even stronger. With the amount of healing she can give her turrets those three seconds will turn into 5-6 easily. Deathy has a short showcasing it, it’s nuts.
@@boyman7823 The duration doesn't matter.
You're literally never going to be using it, without being extremely targetable. esp considering it does less damage against objectives now.
@@LampDoesVideogame The ult still has value as a finisher especially considering you can use items with it.
I played 4 games last night after patch
Every game was a blowout one side or the other around 25 min games.
i think the system needs some time to adjust to every hero, should be less stomping after some time
A huge sample size of 4 whole games should tell us all we need to know
I played 5 games - all of them 40m +
I know this is easier said than done but people need to take ranked less seriously. This patch just reverted to how the game way pre ranked but now reveals your hidden mmr and has a per hero mmr. Trying new hero’s won’t be a problem because the ranks are some what hero dependent. If you are good enough to get a rank it will come naturally regardless. The issue is 99% perspective. Few people are just absolutely trolling to ruin games and when people goof off often their rank will reflect that.
TLDR the game is in alpha and separating the player base was an experiment. As someone who’s hit top 500 in multiple games over thousands of hours the difference between ranked and unranked is way overblown
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Yoshi: Ayo WTF?
Unstoppable was definitely optional on haze before with silencer being as it was but now i think you have to buy it with the silencer rework
You just get what makes good content!
Didn't nerf Yamato enough tbh
How did you checked the leaderboard? I cannot find it ingame.
How is it awesome that casual players will be hated by ranked players and the other way around? There are people who want to have fun and try funny stuff out and there are people who want to win. Most importantly, some people will want to be able to do both things in different game modes. Sorry but this is stupid.
casual players will be in the low ranks people who are competitive will stay in the high ranks you wont have a problem
Just did silly shit in ranked any way, turn off voice chat and just viscous ball buold hitting no one. Haha
i still get yelled at in casual anyway. just tell anyone super toxic to stop taking an alpha super seriously. it’s a video game
Only thing with this new change so far in ranked ive had good comms and casual it doesnt matter now all my games are hit or miss for people that wanna work together
I have been called slurs for not being "good enough" in a casual game. Some people just suck putting them in a different queue doesn't change that.
Lots of people super upset, but this game is early development. It's crazy how playable the game is at the moment; enough for people to treat it like a finished game getting constant re-balance. Personally, I think this is kinda dangerous because it blurs the line for players. I really do often forget I haven't paid a dime for this game and there is no monetary gain for this game yet.
I'm super optimistic for the game because so many people are super passionate about their takes and saying stuff like "the game is ruined." Like every 2 weeks the game gets a pretty big change, so we're in a constant state of "it's so joever -> we're so back" for a game that's early development.
I do think the whole testing system is odd though. Like making small/slight balance changes week over week only for a huge change every 2 weeks is kinda odd? I know balancing is impossible with this system, so I'm assuming thats just done to keep people playing the game. I just hope it doesn't interfere with the resulting launch state of the game. I understand the subtle map changes to really hammer out maximizing the map quality; the heroes, not so much.
Why did they give ivy this I love playing ivy but after this I feel like they are going to nerf the rest of her kit due to this ult movement speed, she was doing fine she didn't need this. Let me guess they will keep this but mext patch nerf the flying duration from 15 seconds to 6 or something
They need to give Yamato more viable upgrades to her ult when it’s leveled. I could understand the nerf for early game but it’s not realistically viable later
We shouldn't really be upset with this if it is based off the skill you have with a certain character come on people of Earth. I'm a solo player and i'm loving the update
Didn't read all the patch notes, went against a Haze literally every game since the patch, had to go read patch notes after because she kept running over the lobby. Metal skin actually useless against her ult now, and with every Haze buying Arcane Surge it's hard to get out of the range of it too. I legit don't know what to do when a Haze buys Unstoppable now.
-Sprint speed on tier 1 of stealth means she can roam way faster at early levels
-mixed damage from spirit damage on ult means itemizing against her is twice as hard
-Arcane Surge is just insane on anyone who has a big AoE spirit scaling skill like Haze ult is now
-Late game Haze with max stealth can dodge your abilities
Devs, pls revert Haze changes or nerf Fixation hard hard
loving all the mobility items also buffing Lash in a way >:3
Please Update Grey Talon Build accourding to the latest update/patch
Edit: Please Update Your Grey Talon Build accourding to the latest update/patch
I love the build and it suits me in the gameplay, matches and style.
@@rohanjadhao4141 the build is still amazing, doesn’t really need to be updated
I'm not really a fan of casual and ranked being combined. I really liked the separate ranked queue, I felt that the quality of matches was consistently much higher. Additionally, I am MUCH higher mmr/rank than my friends who I still like to play with. It kinda sucks we can only queue in ranked together now, it's honestly kinda a shit deal for any of the Randoms who get queued with us who may want to have a more serious ranked match but it's just me and my friends goofing off. Were people having problems with queue times in ranked? I was in high phantom-mid ascendant, and I don't think my queue times were ever more than like a minute or two.
I should add that I am assuming this is probably only going to be combined while the game is in pre-release. Hopefully, on release, we'll have a separate solo/duo ranked queue and a separate casual mode.
You can still hire people to boost you? Just have them play from a customer account that is similar MMR. (For Duo Boost) and for single boost they just play on your account.
I don't know if this true or not. But someone suspected that the game has like a hardware detection for matchmaking to prevent smurfing.
Because they tested themselves playing with a new fresh account and then got rank similar to their main account. They also compared to other pros like MikaelS who also got Eternus on his fresh account. Even though it can be because of the player's performance, the game didn't even have that much data to prove that they're belong on said rank.
I assume both are playing both of their accounts (main and fresh) on their own PC, hence their fresh account got similar rank like main account.
So maintaining an account with a low MMR requires them to play bad, which also might affected their main account.
36:52 wtf. so thats what happened when i used metal skin and walked into a haze ult thinking im going to absolutely destroy her but then the opposite happened. 💀
I’m not happy about ranked being the only mode, but the other changes seem nice
I still feel like there needs to be a separate unranked and ranked modes because I want to separation between seriousness and experimentation. For example, I suck at ivy but I want to learn how to play her. I usually play paradox and wraith but now that every match matters, you have to learn a character very quickly or stick to who you’re good at
There is per hero mmr now though so that's not actually true
@@BulletDarkness well yes there is per hero MMR but if you lose, your rank is still gonna drop lol
@@Saroniss Why people care so much about their rank on an early development game? When the game wasn't have a ranked mode it was fine. But now all of the sudden there's so many insufferable people cares too much about their rank.
The game already has hidden MMR anyway and what they did is revealing that hidden rank.
@@n_core I don't really care about my rank personally, I just know some people feel a sense of accomplishment when they get high ranks
@@Saroniss Yeah but when your hero MMR with that hero is lower, you are going to fight less experienced opponents. So theoretically you've got the same chance to win.
All you're saying is that "if you lose, your rank is gonna drop" which is true no matter what.
The game was not ready for ranked yet. I think they bit off a little more than they could chew with splitting the player pool. This update shouldve been what we got instead of ranked.
Huge warden nerf...
Am i the only one extremely happy with the queue changes?
I'n happy I finally get to have a rank at all because solo queuing a moba seems like a poor life decision
I fucking love it because its been so miserable to only solo queue for the last few weeks, causing tons of people to leave the game. High elo basically stopped playing overall due to long queue times. I understand its gonna suck when they mix casual and ranked players but pretty sure its just temporary because of the playerbase size until they have a better ranked system in place
@@AverageJonas Totally get it on it being an issue on the top end of the rank queue especially with rank redistribution making the top ranks smaller. I was Phantom 3 before rank redistribution and the queue times were never bad. I hope it’s temporary like you said, it’s still alpha after all, and they launch with a solo and group mode for ranked like League of Legends for example. Still good to experiment!
what does "8% spirit amp Proc" and "18% spirit lifesteal Proc" mean ? I don't get it
Spirit amp is your base spirit power getting amplified
Procs are basically when you hit someone with gun or abilities & grants you a buff or debuff to other enemies
@@luckyisland9914 ho ok, so the french traduction is bad cauz it's translated to "chances"
@@roofishighcorp.associates2020 👍
Fairly sure spellslinger is bugged
the 3% buff not apply at all
Unfortunate they nerfed bebop heals. it was fun fully upgrading ultimate and being an orbital laser
Its not really a nerf to bebop specifically but a readjustment to every healing effect in the game
@@AverageJonas 100% to 33% is a huge nerf if you played him with lifesteal... the 1v5 is no longer.
@@ItsBadRatits 80 percent now, not 33😂
@@AverageJonas in the patch notes it literally says 100/33%. its in your own video man.
56:05 Okay that makes sense
Haze looks even more ridiculous wtf
There’s no way Arcane Surge stays like that. It’s either getting nerfed hard or isn’t going to effect ults
it's so perfect for paradox time bombs
@ yeah those are probably massive
So good for Dynamo and Pocket ultimate
I feel like whenever the dev added something, they make it a super broken thing and then refined it later.
Same goes to Shiv back then and then Mirage.
i feel the beginning of the end with this update.
that's a lotta damage
Silencer looks broken.... as in they threw it on the floor and stamped on its remains. Correct me if I am wrong, but 1.1% build up per bullet requires a minimum of 91 bullets to fully proc yeah? So unless your weapon is automatic it is basically useless. Also once you finally build it up it finally does something for only 2/6 seconds for the silence/spirit dmg debuff?
It's adjusted for base fire rate so it doesn't actually build up that slow. That said this is still a nerf from previous silencer
Disagree with update about matchmaking rework. If you play hero’s that take a minute to get online (IE haze) and your whole team doesn’t give a shit about MMR) it automatically hurts you to the point if you are playing for rank, then you better only play hero’s that can hard carry and end quick.
Or just try not to care so much about mmr in a game that is still in early dev. 🤷🏻♂️
That’s the kind of mentality that I’m talking about
@@jashhandy358 And see this is the issue since technically you are both right. There are players who don't give a rip because (of many reasons) its a game in early dev that is probably going to reset, but who is to say @gears542 is wrong for caring about his MMR even at this point? People get enjoyment from games in different ways. Some from being goofy and casually playing, and others by being competitive and seeing improvement/growth. That is reason why there are ranked and "unranked" (hidden mmr masks this for most games) ques. Both perspectives are right, because who is to determine the "correct" way to have fun in a game?
@@SamSyncedI think you are very correct but in terms of this game I think the choice to merge the ranked q with unranked was the right one. Imo I think the match quality and queue times will be better and it’ll be healthier for the game as it is early access
@@jashhandy358 I think your point has a lot more validity than people understand. As much as I get people caring about their rank, the current objective of the devs is to gather data and insight on their game before launch, meaning they want people to play as many games possible. If merging the queues lowers queue times and let's them develop better through gathering more data, that should be their main priority. The game isn't a live service title at the moment, even though some players want to treat it that way. It's an alpha TEST, meant to buffer out issues. That doesn't mean I don't think they should have separate queues, but a lot of players seem to have forgotten the entire point of why they have access to the game in the first place.
I think haze may be broken... LOL
just had the first game of the day, mcginnis sucks to play against
gun buff wasnt needed at all its bullshit
The Parries have gotten even worse LOL. Super buggy
I’m going to be honest here: I don’t like the changes to the matchmaking system at all. It actively creates a hostile environment between players who want to take the game seriously and those who just want to play casually. That’s not fun for anyone. Additionally, the core MMR feature and how rank is awarded feel very broken.
From what I understand-and based on what I’ve seen on my own profile-you can make the game think you’re at an Archon or higher skill level by playing fewer heroes and ensuring that most of your win-to-loss ratios with those heroes are positive. This new system actually discourages players from experimenting and trying new characters. After all, what’s the point of playing with a new character if it’s going to hurt my overall rank?
In conclusion, I don’t think this change will last long. It’s only going to divide and alienate the player base. And when you have a game that’s still in beta, you need players to stick around and want to keep playing even after the game’s official release.
I have never touched ranked nor did I want to play it cuz of all the sweating and overall less forgiving environment and now I am being forced to which makes me not want to play.
I feel as though of the fun is gone, honestly its really sad.
This whole change feels really abrupt and forced most likely due to the recent huge wave of criticism towards ranked since it was so basic. So Valve said: "Oh ranked is not good? The queues suck and dont have enough players to make lobbies with players of equal skill? Just force everyone to play it, that will fix it."
1. Literal beta game
2. Casual always had hidden mmr anyways
The game isn’t even released, this is the time for them to try things. Holy moly some people just 😢
@@scxizm It is an Alpha not a beta
People sweat in casual just as much.
@@47slogra semantics, point still stand
The competitive players need a separate queue. Why would I want to play in a queue with casual and competitive players?
Ay man why u aint playing valorant no more😢😢😢 averagejonas
sad no lash changes
Atleast now when we try to ground slam vindicta or grey talon they will actually fall like the patch says
@@ignisglasses3080 yeah I guess there's that but I tried it haven't done one yet I guess you have to hit very close to the them
52:30 Jesus christ
I like your videos, but please stop hating Yamato.
Never
Would love if Valve re-wroded the "This game is now safe to leave without penalty" literally the most broken thing in the game. People think they wont get MMR and Win/Loss by leaving.
all these updates for an alpha game. thats valve for you
Still no Forfeit button
🎶Cause he's a sov.. Wait... Forgot he Quitted playing😢
horrible update