Full video here: ruclips.net/video/-DJElgWAg7A/видео.html I'm glad Saajid didn't see it. I don't think he'd want to be friends anymore if he saw the full thing.
Akhi by the way. In his defence shabir is a pretty good debater when he debated Christians. I have seen him win every time. Only for the last 6 or 7 years he started to make some strange remarks. May Allah make him repent
I like your videos when you expose Christian princess, Jay Smith and all his cronies... but I fell to see what you hope to achieve from making videos like this🤔🧐
Yes, we don’t know before Mahdi will take the place of the leader of Muslim ummah what is waiting for us. We are completely lost in present time. Very hard to holding the true commandments of Allah Subhan Allahu Ta’la.
@Bennett Nyson In my country too (Bangladesh) last year 4/5 Ulama passed away. But there are many new scholars comes out warning peoples about Satanic act by satan allies. May Allah protect our Imaan and guide to the path of Taqowa.
@@sharksteiner2775 I wouldnt call them clowns you obviously seen he has changed the sharia when the Quran already put what to do in those types of situations but he changed them
Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not withhold knowledge by snatching it away from his servants, but rather he withholds knowledge by taking the souls of scholars, until no scholar remains and people follow ignorant leaders. They are asked and they issue judgments without knowledge. Thus, they are astray and lead others astray.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 100, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2673 Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
To become a muslim we have to accept the entire quran. Rejecting or refuting a verse or part of the verse from the quran may put us in hell fire permanently.
@Atom For a muslim hell is not permanent only for those with right emaan (faith). There is no compromise when it comes to emaan. Meaning, all good deeds will be useless without emaan.
Shabir trying to change the deen because of secularism. I was watching him on RUclips rejecting tow hadiths that I knew sahib just because of society pressure not because of chain of narration or anything like that.Allah guide us
I respect shabir, he has taught me allot with his debates but every scholar is an expert in a certain way. We have to recognize that as listeners. Even saajid and Farid are not experts in everything. Btw shabir is way way beyond David wood. Let's be honest. Saajid and Farid wouldn't last one min against a Christian apologist worth his salt in a debate. Shabir has defended the deen on the biggest stages against THE best christian apologists. I hear where Farid is coming from, it's a valid and sobering voice but I do also hear many generalisations from Farid, he hasn't even watched many of shabir debates. I recommend he does.
What else should he say? "Oh its okay if he's misguiding the muslims even if he is clearly rejecting the Qur'an as there is literally no difference in opinion in these matters"?
@@abdaalahmad5483 And in who's OPINION is he supposedly 'misguiding' Muslims?? This Sajid guys 'views' are strictly his views and has no bearing or place in the open public domain when he has made no attempt to speak in private to individuals he discredits openly. People who sit behind their screens all day long talking rubbish about other Muslims deserve no respect or attention as they are doing a disservice to the ummah and themselves. What gives him the right and the authority to dishonour other well established duaat?? This is a very well known hallmark of so called duat who have spent a couple years in an Islamic university and no broader spectrum of study resulting in small mindedness and narrow minded logic and thinking. Yet they act as if they know it all. And yeah, that's just my OPINION, don't need to accept it.
Sorry brothers, this is not the way to address these things. You can reach out to these duaate and discuss this, the way you speak shows disdain and you're not really giving advice. I think you both need to learn how to speak.
Exactly! Especially Sajiid, who is so new in the Dawah scene. His words are so strong as if he knows Dr. Shabir fron the very start. I was actually disappointed too with Brother Farid. I mean these subject matters are all minor things, and Muslims since the old times have been discussing their differences in minor things. Come on brothers, don't make us think that you're just doing this to snatch attention and subscribers, please. Even the Ulama themselves differ in minor things. And there are 4 schools of thought that differ with each other in minor things. Only the Almighty ALLAH knows everything. May HE forgive us all for all our wrong doings and the sharpness of our tongues.
I would like to add that I do hold the same views that the statements of Dr Shabir do not reflect ijmaa/consensus among scholars but again you need to address people who spent their whole life in daawa with a little bit of respect and just show the proofs without adolescent terms .... wafaqakom Allah
@@zaldssans7412 I don't think the topic of crucifixion of Jesus pbuh is a minor thing. And i don't think any of the scholars differed on that. So it's not just minor things.
@@Mimi-Maa18 in Islam we are told in the Holy Qur'an a mere single verse about the crucifixion of Jesus. That is not a major thing between us Muslims, but definitely a major thing between us and the people of the book. Even if we differ in our comprehension of the ayah, as long as we all arrive at the same conclusion that Eesa alayhis salaam was not killed in any manner, and he was taken by ALLAH subhana wa taala alive, then we are on the same page.
It seems performative and insincere. He overcompensates by being a Salafist bro to prove he's more devout than other converts. A lot of his defenses are correct but he can't explain them..
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 thats a non-argument lol with a bunch of deflection. No True Scotsman fallacy. You can't defend anything so you just claim "you're not Muslim enough to criticize me!"
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 you sound stupid. Salafism is a modern movement. don't dishonestly use the prophet PBUH to defend being a modern alt-right Muslim bro.
@@ltopomcfly5583 For you to say this is backbiting and we should assume the best of our fellow Muslims. Only Allah knows who is sincere and who is performing so dial it back and understand that what it "feels" like to you is completely irrelevant. Like who are you and I to try and say who is sincere. We should remain humble and focus on what we can do for the ummah rather than criticizing what is no concern of ours
Totally agreed They can’t do that because they have no knowledge about Islam or any other religion to debate The people must stay away from those two Zionist crooks ! They have nothing to do with Islam
Yes, it would have been more productive if he took the honorable route of creating an incognito social media profile and leaving one liner comments on refutation videos.
@Paco Newwave you need to follow the truth not scholars , they're not prophets , no body said that he is a kafir but he is misleading people by stating his opinions as religion
Thank you brothers. Islam is pure. Anyone attempting to dilute it should be called out. If we don't do that, we may fall into the calamity of Christianity that has a lot of interpolation. Shabir Ally is knowledgeable but often he says problematic things. He modifies clear teachings. Thank you, brothers, for exposing him. The world needs to know and avoid his problematic teachings on some issues
The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) reminded us in the hadith of musnad ahmed that: Abu Dhar said, "I was with the Prophet (SAW) one day and I heard him saying: "There is something I fear for my Ummah than the Dajjal." It was then that I became afraid, so I said: "Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is that?" He (SAW) said; "Misguided and astray scholars." [Musnad Ahmad (5/145) No. 21334 and 21335]
@Samir Disco who came first? The second one is a liar! No one sent him. Further more I love Jesus so much I became a Jew.. jews don’t rate you either. Muhamed married a baby.. prophets don’t do that.. so I’ll stay with my Jesus Thank you.. I can never accept a prophet who had the moral of Muhamed..
@@sahibaahmad6314 I think you should think of yourself o the day of judgement when you tell Jesus you followed a pervert who played with little girls and believed him instead of Jesus. Also I did not lie . Your prophet forgot the Quran..
Same here brother/sister I will the same way. I am a very big fan of him because I honestly learned a lot from him but what he said in this video is really shocking!!!
Love Allah & his messenger more than aynone else , A wise scholar once said not praise him unless he is dead because the living is still subject to fitnah .
@@nutellacheese6017 which is to believe in everything and submit to everything Allah has prescribed for us, clearly not what shabir Ally is doing he is literally disagreeing with Allah and its shocking because I really loved that guy in his dawah.
Bro Sajid, we can still refute such views without mocking the person. I noticed Bro Sajid has a pattern of mocking fellow believers when refuting their point. May Allah guide us all.
Finally someone made a video about this, he did say stuff that were such a shock to me, like saying that perhaps Allah guides people through different religions. (Though, he seems to have changed his mind on that, or maybe i misunderstood the first time) I just don’t think a person who may cause a lot of harm to the community should be left unaddressed, as many people listen to him. May Allah guide him and everyone else.
I saw the clips you posted some time back ... and I was alarmed when I saw them. There is nothing wrong with a vanguard of Muslims challenging any corrupt ideas and viruses being introduced into the ummah. There has to exist checks&balances in the ummah. If we don’t have this mechanism, then the ummah will decline. May Allah reward you for your efforts.
When I saw some of Shabir Ally's video I noticed something is fishy about him, something is not right. When he tried to answere some questions I noticed that he takes the middle path, either delibaretely or ignorantly. As a muslim we should always stay strong in our faith and teachings of our Quran and sunnah. We should not reject what was not rejected by Allah and we should have courage to reject what was rejected no matter what the situation is. But taking a middle path is a sign of weak imaan. This video shows that I was right about Shabir Ally. May Allah guide us all to the straight path and keep us strong in faith.
@@LeafSoulsI think what he means is that if something is against the religion for example, there is tendency amongst some current speakers in which they don't proclaim it and hold firm upon it but rather speak about it using philosophy and water it down to make it more friendly for liberals.
So using Shabir Ally's logic one could also say: "in modern times were there is so much concern in promoting LGBT rights, it would be out of place (for Muslims) to apply the ban on gay marriage".
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman reported: The people used to ask the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, about good, but I would ask about evil for fear it would overtake me. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, we were in ignorance and evil and Allah sent us this good. Will there be evil after this good?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “Will there be good after that evil?” The Prophet said, “Yes, but within it is smoke.” I said, “What is its smoke?” The Prophet said, “A people who are not guided by my guidance. You will recognize them and reject them.” I said, “Will there be evil after that good?” The Prophet said, “Yes, callers to the gates of Hellfire. Whoever answers them will taste it from within.” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us.” The Prophet said, “They are from our progeny and speak our language.” I said, “What do you command me should that overtake me?” The Prophet said, “Hold fast to the community of Muslims and their leader.” I said, “What if there is no community and no leader?” The Prophet said, “Then withdraw from all of the sects, even if you must bite at the root of trees until death overtakes you in that state.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3411, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1847 Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
I love brother Muhammad Tim Humble’s classes. He is MaShaAllah very knowledgeable and someone we can trust to get ilm from. He has done videos on the subjects like “Are Women in Islam are oppressed” and “Is Sharia Barbaric” and many more and MaShaAllah he’s done a beautiful job explaining everything with dalils from the Quran and Sunnah Alhamdullilah. We don’t need to be apologetic because we have the haqq Alhamdullilah.
Young Muslims like these two are always overzealous. Shabir has a doctorate in quranic exegesis and these two babies think that they know what they're talking about really? They have little knowledge and even less understanding. And of course the wisdom of 20 year olds. Come back with your opinion of Shabir in 30 years please.
So because Shabir has a doctorate that gives him the right to lie about Islam? Shabir Ally believes the hijab isn’t obligatory and that women can lead men in prayers.
@@MX4evaFarid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
@Imdad Sk I follow Hadith for sure (i am not hadith rejector, may God forbid) so does Dr shabir, but what i am saying is whenever Dr shabir asked a question, he first see it from *Quran first* then he will elaborate further using Hadith, and as for fornication he said male and female fornicators should be slashed and the elaboration shouldn't be 100 slash or capital punishment.
I'm so glad you did a video on him. I even complained on his channel about his views. It seems they're catering for everyone and he sits on the fence a lot. Trying to please everyone. If he just said the verses and explained what is the question then that would be the best way.
@@christianfamilyman4476 dude......you do realise that most muslims want to debate Christians but your Christian leaders run away in fear of refutation of their biblical claims.
@@christianfamilyman4476 many muslim leaders, the ones I am talking about are not popular international but very popular in my country. Btw your silence is even more deafening, list me some Christian leaders who have tried to debate Muslim leaders.
@Abu Murrah Al Himar that's what im confused about imam murrah calls me dad but also calls you dad I don't know who's the real one what timeline are you from?
So bro Saajid, you say you dont care about the opinion of western based muslim figures. So why excatly should we take YOUR OPINION on YOUR UNDERSTANDING of Quran and Sunnah? Because your understanding is exactly that - YOUR PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING. You talk as if your version of Islam is the ultimate, conclusive, indisputable, unquestionable Islam for all the world. So please do tell, what gives you this entitlement?? Becauses lets face it, if RUclips wasnt ever invented, so too would be the case for your 'concern' for the muslim discourse taking place today. You would never have known of Shabir Ally, Dr Yaasir Qhadi etc. What entitles you to your divisive views about others!? And please, dont tell me you Went to 'Madina University'! As if to say its THE one stop, powerhouse of knowledge, cuz it aint!
@@Mimi-Maa18 You see your not even listening to your own absurdity! Who gets to explain and translate what 'the understanding of the companions' were? And furthermore, who gets to decide how those rulings and principles are applicable and applied in todays world!?? If your suggesting this Saajid fella gets to decide then that is very laughable! The guy thinks that ANY form of western education is based on orientalists views and underpinned by some sort of hidden agenda to missguide the world into a dark pit of doom! This is a form of narrow mindedness that is prevalent with people coming out of Saudi Arabia and particularly these so called Madina University 'students of knowledge' Seriously, you guys need to get your heads out of your own backsides and get out into the real world where interaction with the people of the world will reveal the challenges we face as muslims when it comes to applying islam to the wider world. Not an Islam formed sat in my bedroom, behind a screen with hoody over myhead! You lot need to grow the hell up!
@@dewanchowdhury4818 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ So if a companion applied the punishment for theft, you need someone to explain to you that ? ? Not to mention the explanations of the scholars from the salaf who had a better understanding of islam than we do.
@@Mimi-Maa18 Your clearly still very young and have a very elementary level of intellect as your not understanding the ramifications of what your talking about. Niether are you equipped to understand the deeper essence of the law of Allah. Do you ponder over why Allah says; 'My Mercy overpowers my Anger'
@@dewanchowdhury4818 ohh and you do ? Now I am not surprised why you are defending Shabir Ally. I am saying we follow the understanding of the scholars of the salaf, but you somehow think you know better.
Guys please. You guy are in you twenties. How long have you been studying these matters in Islam? Don't get arrogant because you maybe studied a few year. I mean, you are judging a respected older brother who has many more years of studying. This doesn't look good guys.
@@n.a3642 let give you, our islamic "stuff knower", an example of the prophet (saw). Reflect and think about it. Gonna keep it short because i dont want to type a lot for you. Woman came to prophet because she felt she needed to be stoned for her adultry. She confessed of her sin to the prophet (saw). He turned away from her. This was repeated 3 times befor people who where there stoned her while she ran away. The prophet was not happy with what they did. He said, why stone her? She obviously regrets what she did. Question to you? Did the prophet (saw) became kafir here (astagfiroullah)? The law is clear yet he didnt wanted to go there as quick as you "learned men" in their 20tees want (blood). Dont try to be a judge in you twenties if you just studied islam maybe 2, 5 or 10 years. Our early scholars studied all their life yet didnt dare to rush to judging. Learn from that.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
The Holy Quran says it's better to forgive than to punish. So if there's an alternative to chopping off someone's hand, and that deterrent is more than 95% effective, then what's wrong with implementing that deterrent? As technology advances, and replacing a human hand with a bionic one, becomes accessible and affordable to the masses, then chopping off a hand as a punishment will lose its effectiveness in terms of a deterrent. That's the point Dr. Ally was making. And what's the reason you blurred out the woman interviewing Dr. Ally? She was covered and dressed conservative but you still blurred her out? I don't agree with that.
I agree also the economic downsides of chopping a criminals hands in the 21st century is that that person who is a amputee will become disabled and this will cost the state alot of money in welfare and medical fees.
So why would you not go in debate with him. Talking here without him having the chance to respond is a weak thing to do. There are a lot people now a days muslims because of this man. Are you saying they are now following wrong islam? He did not even mention hassad. So why are taking conclusions? He is not good at debating? Your research about Shabir Ally is really bad. If he has some things that are not good debate about it. But you are portrating him really bad. Farid mentioned David Wood in the same sentence as Shabir Ally. Come on you got to be kidding me. Really arrogant.
No one is Muslim because of this man. Imaan in a ni'ma from Allah (Awj). Snake Nazim had thousand of followers; it doesn't make them Muslims if their imaan is based upon falsehood. If one is sincere, then Allah SWT will guide him/her to the haq. The brothers in this video have spoken the truth in correcting Shabir. Also if Shabir is willing to express his views in a Public video, then he should expect any refutations in the same way. Ignorant is heavy word, you should use it more carefully.
@@dnz1able i said arrogant not ignorant. When christian people check out his videos and way of debating they turn to islam. Allah guides that is ultimately but why people do dawah? I do not know this guy you mentioned but i do know Shabir. I follow his debates since 2008 on RUclips and portraiting him like this in this video is wrong. As i said he did not mention hassad if you would ask him about hassad he can give his response. Shabir Ally is a real knowledgeable man and these guys came yesterday gain some followers and are now portraiting Shabir as a not well educated muslim. That is a ARROGANT thing to do. That is my opinion.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
But stoning is not actually mentioned in the Quran? Stoning was back then a normal and accepted practice for dealing with adulterers and they continued that practice, doesnt necessarily make it Divine decree that stoning is a MUST. It doesn't seem God's way to interfere with cultures and norms without strict reason. For instance, polygamy was a normal practice in those times. To deal with the issue of men marrying orphans and dealing them a bad hand, the Quran instructed these men to instead marry amongst free women although restricting the number and putting the condition of equal treatment. This doesnt necessarily mean that as times change, cultures change, and socio-economic dynamics change, that polygamy cant be outlawed in societies as they see fit. It seems less of a Divine right given to men and more of God addressing the issue of marrying orphans for unjust reasons by telling these men what the better option was. God's way seems to be operating within their cultural/ societal norms only explicitly forbidding what is inherently harmful or immoral. Stoning isnt inherently bad bc ppl in past societies obviously did it with it being the opposite of socially disruptive and they didnt see it as barbaric. If revelations continued, I believe we'd see a prophet today jail adulterers rather than the stone bc it IS societal disruptive today and we have a cultural lens that tells us it's barbaric. Dr. Shabir Ally denies stoning is Shariah bc it shouldn't be a part of absolute religious law.
Br. Shabir has more life experience and understanding in his pinky finger than these two “kids” have in their collective experience. Beware you kids don’t end up like the kawaraaj and start to kill those you disagree with not just use harsh language to disrespect those that paved the way for Muslim communities in the West so you both could have the opportunity to sit here and blast them decades later. A complete disgraceful act by you two self-righteous brothers - sorry to say. May God soften your hearts and guide you in the future and make you less rigid souls and have tolerance for others, especially within your own deen WHO are allowed to have differing opinions based on their interpretations. Who died and made you two 17 year olds the leader of Islamic theology and jurisprudence? Just wondering ...
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
There is value in Br Farid doing the video. But the moment I see Br Saajid I see negativity. Br Farid does a lot for the Ummah, but what benefit did Br Saajid do other than putting other muslims down?
@@some2043 first tell them personally, and then make a video. Most of the brothers who Br. Saajid makes a video on, he has the ability to contacr directly. Simply making a living out of attacking others is not promoting good and forbidding evil, but earming from the negative algorithms of the youtube. Unfortunately, we an an ummah clicks on condemnation videos more than beneficial videos and like to put down others. May Allah guide us all.
False. I advise you to watch Ijaz The Trini for a textual and historical critique of Christianity and Jake The Mulim Metaphysician for a theological/philosophical one.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the original ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
@@abuyusha8740Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
To be honest, I've not seen any Shabir Ally videos that I disagree with. Same as Zakir Naik and Ahmed Deedat. Never seen any videos that I disagree with. And am just a normal Muslim living in the UK doing a standard job.
Me, as a Muslim, I’m really getting tired of everybody criticizing each other. Especially youngsters. You guys need to stop this. It’s not good for the ummah.
@Abdul Haqq don’t you think he has arguments for those statement? Why would you be so sure yours are better? Scholars/leaders have always interpreted and implemented Islam differently. Why would you be so confident your view is the right one? Stop this arrogant behavior. Shabir has been studying this Deen problably longer as these guys have been alive. Have some decency and take from him what is good and leave what you think is bad.
Really br shabir?secular over sharia? Just look at the state of Bangladesh and you may just eat your words. Your early works were inspiring, time to retire. May Allah swt have mercy on us all🤲🏾
Do you know the number of persons who are Muslims today because of the Jihad of Dr Shabir Ali. Brother Farid I respect you a lot but not on this. The truth is their is need to speak with any Muslim scholar or brother if found lacking.. Listen to them, Correct them and request for them to give public dawah on the topic if they accept correction on the errors, instead of this consistent criticism of Muslims speakers.. Salam
@hamza. Yes he is doing Jihad. But not for Allah. Rather, it is for the Shaytaan. Shabir Alley is an orientalist and caller to the gates of Hellfire. “But he has done so much to refute Christian theology” you say. So what! His refutation of Christianity does NOT negate his clear attempts to dismantle the handholds of Islam. May Allah protect the Muslims from his evil.
@Muhammad Yasin M Same was said on Dr Zakir Naik, but what we fail to understand is they are humans and 100% of everything can't be expected of them.. They make mistakes to as you also do.. Though I am not suppose to reply you cause you already passed judgment on him already.. Let's think before we speak.. May Allah guide us all
@@hamzahamidu4074 This isn’t simply a “mistake”. It is his ideological orientation which at its front and centre is founded upon the idea that the legislation of Allah is an anachronism. Therefore every thing he says about Islam is coming from this prism, and not simply a mistake. He is evil.
@@Mozee854 😳😲 Anachronism? Really.. How do you come to make a final decision on a man's taught.. And if you read my reply you will see I said if a man is seen lacking in his teaching.. He should be called, corrected, and requested to make a public lecture on the issue, instead of the public criticism...
Why is that Farid, and others here, dare to debate people like Shabbir Ally (who have the courage the debate non-Muslims). Why only criticize the bravest Muslims who are willing to debate the enemies of Islam? Also, which university did Sheikh Albani graduate from?
@@abdulmohammed2769 yes, the cutting off of the hand of a thief is in the quran, as well as black magic and the most important thing he rejects that ot should be ruled by sharia (Surah 5 Verses 44 -47)
@@atilaorhan927 what makes you so zealous for one person, he clearly rejects quran and hadith and you still wanna defend him him. I'm not a fan of farid I'm not so zealous about him, he also had many wrong stuff in Aqida (fundamentals of belief). It's not about he debatet or not. You clearly speak out of emotions bcs u liked Shabirs debates with the Christians (BTW i did too), but thats not proving anyone to have knowledge in Islam, don't be fooled with the looks. I saw many Christians having debates with eachother, will you defend the Jehovas and accept everything he says. No right! The only person we shoudl defend at any time is RasulAllah, peace and belssings of Allah be upon him. Who re Farid and Shabir?
Credentials??? What are your credentials in comparison to shabir ally. He would honestly school you both. Shabir ally has put in more in to the dawah scene than both of you arrogant brothers combined. You could have easily reached out to Dr Shabir ally behind the scenes and voice your concerns. But hey let’s get some for face time on camera instead. Fellow listeners we need to keep a balanced view. These two brothers are ok but all I see is videos of other peoples faults only. Pure arrogance from these two standard bearers of Islam. Jokers.
I really disliked that conversation brother Farid, Saajid doesnt try to understand the point that brother Shabbyr brings accross, neither do you. Very disappointing
Agreed, they were like a pack of wolves turning on one of their own. Its a thing that the younger generation like to do. Turn on the older, wiser generation. This isn't a gang! you dont climb the ladder of Islam by turning on your elders! Dr. Ally has been through it and cut his teeth and deserves better than this troubling smear. Its obvious Dr. Allys clips were edited and cut. Anyway, I pray that Allah (swt) guides us all. We are a mess today as an Ummah because of these self inflicting actions.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Why do you say this like they didn't provide evidence for everything. Do you not understand that his views are against what ISLAM says? Why defend that?!?
@@UriPhoneCracker He said studying Aqeeda is a disease a while ago but he never apologised or retracted the statements. He said you can learn Aqeeda in 10 minutes. Plus he sings the Burda which is full of Shirk. With lines saying the Prophet SAW controls Yawm al-Qiyamah and he has knowledge of Lawh ul-Mahfuz. Astaghfirullah.
Can't thank you enough for doing this. Jazak Allah khair. i have been finding a lot of Shabir Ally's speeches to be problematic over the years so this was very necessary.
Go tell a muslim full of doubts that magic is real and he will leave islam in an instant, Be smart like shabir and you'll slowly help him digest the reality of magic as it is described. if you believe in magic good on you any muslim with basic knowledge believes in djinns and magic, Shabir is speaking to millions and he has to use the right words. also comparing shabir to abu layth whats next compare him to david wood just like farid did? astagfirullah
@@gaunterdimm7522 If you are agreeing with Shabir Ally’s tactics then God bless you but no one needs a half baked Islam to be given to them. Take all of Islam or none of it.
@@gaunterdimm7522 There is no different between what Abu Layth is doing and what Shabir Ally has done. They are both giving you a watered down version of Islam.
@suleiman _36 bro no there isn’t. They both water down Islam and I said specifically when it comes down to black magic they have the same stance. Did you not read my comment?
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 same like abdurahman hassan getting exposed by bro hajji. Where abdurahman hassan was not fully sharing the hadeeth and also putting forward a hadeeth which agreed with his methodology (ibn Abdul wahab), even though the chain of that hadeeth was not Sahih.
The most important Muslim apologetic in islam 1. Ahmed deedat 2. Zakir naik 3. Shabir ally. These are the best and in that order. I believe shabir is the most knowledgeable. Naik the most talented. Deedat the first and most important.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
That is why ALLAH said Muhammad will testify against his Ummah on the day of Judgement because of these controversial hadiths that Muslims fabricated after him. The subject of stoning is not in the Holy Quran. So let's leave it to ALLAH to decide and the Messenger to testify.
I love how it's only been 25 minutes and there's already 12 dislikes it's as if people are subscribed and have the notification bell on just to put a dislike
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 dude you don't reason not only in this comment but every one And also why hate on shias I'm not one but they are Muslims too
Thank you for bringing the corruption of Shibir Ally and like. May Allah reward you and other brothers who are bringing these into light ameen. These religious figures have a very large follower base. Therefore it is important to use mass media to do constructive criticism about their corruption so regular Muslims understand the true Islam. Since these religious people are not retracting what they have said in the past, these are not mistakes but corruptions from them.
It is important to note however that Dr. Shabir Ally is just thinking out loudly and not preaching, he makes it very clear. Thinking is a dynamic process, hence why in his newer videos, he's talking a bit differently about certain things, you've shown in these video now like his views on Black Magic. Dr. Shabir Ally doesn't preach made up information/pure opinion like Abu Layth in an ordering manner. Dr. Zakir Naik is very much appreciated in our community, but that's also the one thing I don't like about him. He isn't sometimes truthful about topics he is unsure about, but rather preaches one command as if he was 100% sure about it, just to change his view a couple years later. I would much rather have a scholar that shares his thoughts about uncertain topics and who makes it clear that these are only his thoughts. Plus many things you're criticizing like the punishments mentioned in Ahadith for apostasy for instance are debated things among scholars nevertheless, since the Qur'an for instance says that people may leave and join Islam and repeat that when they want to and some Hadith even say that stoning was abrogated. I quite honestly don't enjoy the direction you're going to with your channel, it started off as an informative channel, where you corrected other people that were spreading false information in a kind manner and about Islamic history, but now it's become more and more a platform for the sole purpose of criticizing people and approaching them with prejudice. This also shows itself in the ignorant comments that now get like hundreds of likes and upvotes under your recent comments. May Allah (s.w.t.) guide us to the right path.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
By Allah I hardly watch YQ and I followed Dr. Shabbir's debates. About Dr. Shabbir I was aware of his certain problematic views and hoped he stick to debating Christians. And I'm sufficiently conservative in my views regarding Islam but this trend of refutation culture is becoming ugly now. I'm sick and tired of it. People should themselves be able to see where a scholar or any person sliped regarding Deen. These casual discussions with no academic values are becoming a cancer on Ummah. Instead of pointing out mistakes in a person why not educate Muslims about right things, how to approach religious knowledge, how to judge. This backbiting stuff is kind of cringe. May Allah help us. Subhan Allah the priorities of Ummah.
If they could respectfully hold an academic debate people may benefit but this approach creates animosity. I have not seen Dr. Shabbir criticizing a Muslim as such or being militant in spreading his beliefs (I disagree with him regarding some of his views). We can't disregard his work for Ummah by debating doubters of Islam and coming on top Alhamdulillah. Disagreements (if) should be done but in a suitable manner. Dawah should not become fasad by tearing down the fabric of the Ummah.
@@asfiah1740 I really agree with you and @Sanwar and @Samo Laganini. Simple differences in opinion and interpretations of the Holy Quran and the hadith have been existence long before these two young critics. They should be aware of that, and be very careful in criticism. And yes, they should first talk with anybody they differ with, instead of posting videos like this, which seems to me as more of wanting to gain more audience, than to correct mistakes. Very un-Islamic approach to a fellow Muslim.
Please be respectful to other Scholars who are more knowledgeable than you both. People like Shabir Ally has defended Islam in many platforms and inspired many non practicing muslims to actively practice Islam & increase faith. May Allah bless us all.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! I found the original real video of Shabbirs response on RUclips, something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
What makes Shabir a ''scholar'' because he had debates with christians? True scholars are Ibn taymiyyah, Ibn Al Qayyim, Sheikh Saleh Luhaidan, Sheikh Al Albani, Sheikh Saleh al fawzan, and so on..
@@a.d2019 because of his PHD among other qualifications which most these self proclaimed RUclips dawah guys would never have the intelligence to possess.
@@noorahamid3376 Yasir Qhadi also has a PHD among other qualifications, but he has also spoken nonsense on several occasions. Remember that Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) was illiterate and he is still the best of mankind. The Quraysh mocked him for being illiterate; don't make the same mistake they did. Having a PHD, does not give people wisdom. If so, Albert Einstein, Newton and other great atheist scientists should be Muslims. May Allah forgive you. As salamu alaikum.
@@human0_0skull everything you said is debatable. In life many people either choose superstition and stories or reason. The prophet may have been illiterate however, he had revelation directly given to him thus, being taught directly by God. Whenever you follow any Muslim opinion, hadith or interpretation, you are following someone's interpretation of what they saw/heard/understood. Having a PhD is one step closer to being someone whose looked at most of the information out there on the topic they've studied and grappled with it to come to an opinion based on evidence they've gathered and that's many steps closer than a person whose just regurgitating the 'mainstream' most funded opinion in their region which they've done so much mental acrobatics to barely convince themselves of let alone, anyone with. Shred of critical thinking skills. Most people who quickly dismiss scholars like shabiry ally and yasir qhadi do so without carefully listening to how they arrived at their conclusions and the evidences they provide. If you listen carefully and without fear that your religious foundation and preconceived notions are going to shatter, you will be able to understand that their reasoning is usually more superior to most regurgitated opinion out there and adheres to the quran more closely thus being a more viable option.
I actually like watching his old debates with christians but as time goes on, his views gets weirder and weirder. I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed this... since I’m no scholar, I can’t really refute him in views that I don’t agree with... I still have a lot to learn
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Quranic Teachings about Satan and about Morality Some claim that the Quran was the work of the devil.[1] Let us examine how much sense (or non-sense) this allegation makes. If he authored or inspired the Quran, why would Satan curse himself and call himself the worst enemy of man (Q.35:6; 36:60)? Why would Satan command that before reciting the Quran, one must first say: “…I seek refuge in God from Satan the accursed.” (Quran 16:98) How could Satan so vehemently condemn himself? Is it really acceptable to common sense to hold the view that Satan would ask people to do good, to be moral and virtuous, to worship none but God, to not follow Satan or his whispers, and to avoid and struggle against evil? To hold such a view is clearly repugnant to reason, as Satan has only undermined himself through this means if he is the author. Even the Bible attests: “And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.” (Mark 3:26)[2] This argument applies to any “Satanic forces”, be they “evil spirits”, “deceitful aliens”, etc
To be fair, there's something called the letter of the law and the spirit of the law in fiqh, so each law has a specific intention that's meant to have a specific effect, if that effect stops working, there's no point in applying that law, so when sheikh shabir ally says he doesn't think stoning should be applied, its because the effect of that law will not work on modern people due to how soft they are. Stoning is there as an expiation and prevention for adultery, modern people who aren't used to these harsh laws and are used to committing zina will find this really hard to accept and it might even turn away some people from Islam (which it does) therefore it's part of wisdom and mercy to not apply such a harsh law to a soft and relaxed people. This method is extracted from how the Qur'an was revealed, Allah first gave warning for alcohol, then He prohibited it during certain times and then He sent down a verse comepletely making alcohol haram, likewise we need a similar methldology to the people. You need to be flexible, fiqh changes with the people and time. Islam is about ease and Allah loves ease. Both saajid and farid are salafis meaning they follow the hanbali methodology (following the literal meaning of the text) this is a valid methodology but its not right to impose this methodology as the ONLY way to interpret Islam like most salafis (unintentionally) do. Islam is about being deeper, Allah praises the men of understanding but its sad how the salafi/hanbali methodology has influenced people and thus have made the masses into extremists in religion.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Mr Ali appears to be making it up as he goes along. Just his opinions... Allah revealed the quran to his messenger, may his peace and blessings be upon him. This is what we follow not feelings and "I think" and desires, subhanAllah.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! Check again, something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the original ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
@@SamSam-df9hy do you know about the hadith about "cursing people"?. You're gonna curse your brother just because he chose a few words that can be seen as "offensive"? The moment you cursed him, the curse came back to you. Try to be smart next time.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Shabir Ally is the best debater/speaker from the Muslim camp. Educated, humble, smart. If I or anyone were to revert to Islam from the educational camp it would be from him. Except for the fact that he believes in Islam.
Wtf is dis guy talking about “the angels taught magic for good and the devils changed it” the angels were teaching magic and SAID it was A TEST. They warned them not to do it. It was never a good thing
@@abreganovic2872 The point he is making is that not all who has a beard and a kufi are on the straight path. He is not saying he is deviant just because he has a beard and a kufi.
The Problem with this so called "Muslim Apologetics" like Shabir Ali, Zakir Naik ect is clear, they go beyond their capabilities like giving fatwa on issues and religious matter where they have no knowledge about it because they did not study under scholars rather they got their knowledge from here and there and mixed their Islamic beliefe with western idiologie! This guys should stick to that what they know for certainty or retire at all! In many cases like Shabir ally it's the best to retire bcs his mind is to corrupted and he follows his whims and desires! I end my words with the words of Muhammad bin Sireen (may Allah have mercy on him) “Verily, this knowledge is deen (religion), so look to whom you take your knowledge from”.
@@liberator275Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
This makes me sad. I was watching his debates years and years ago and I really rated him. My first inkling of trouble was when he shared his view on the crucifixion of Isa (as) quite a few years ago. I thought, fair enough, it's his view - it's not right but khayr. All this other stuff is deeply saddening
I think you should get off this channel and maybe do your own research so you can understand Shabir Ally's view? You do know that Farid and Sajid are both Salafis. So where they are coming from is different to where Shabir is coming from
Both sajid and farids reactions were bang on it shows contrast brothers, how a person deals and feels about a particular issue . Theres a Hadith about becoming annoyed/angry for sake of Allah and its like a great thing emaan wise (sweetness of faith) Also I see the hikmah in farids reaction even though farid is naturally a calm brother anyways and when things do get under his skin he masks it well it’s a great virtue to have it’s called temperance many other great charactersistic traits come from this foundational trait of the human being. Great work brothers in these times we should hold brotherhood high may Allah reward you both with good. Amin!
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video: Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him." Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
We cannot take away the fact that Shabbir Ally is a qualified scholar, he has a degree from an esteemed Islamic university and impressive credentials & very knowledgeable in biblical studies. His viewpoint may be different but thats a different matter.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 He is a scholar whereas you are not ... thats the difference. We cannot say a scholar is not a scholar if he is qualified. Different scholars have different views on the same matter.
Full video here: ruclips.net/video/-DJElgWAg7A/видео.html
I'm glad Saajid didn't see it. I don't think he'd want to be friends anymore if he saw the full thing.
Salam farid :)
Are you gonna upload for woo wensday?
C.0.R.0.N.A---TE$T$CauseC.0.R.0.N.A ???
Akhi by the way. In his defence shabir is a pretty good debater when he debated Christians. I have seen him win every time. Only for the last 6 or 7 years he started to make some strange remarks. May Allah make him repent
I like your videos when you expose Christian princess, Jay Smith and all his cronies... but I fell to see what you hope to achieve from making videos like this🤔🧐
As time moves on, the OG leaders of dawah scene are slowly crumbling down because of Liberalism more of them need to be refuted.
Yes sadly that's why there's farid good call grandson
He was a deviant from the start.
@Bennett Nyson its sad we are running out of reliable ulamaa like al albani(may allah have mercy on him) some others too
Yes, we don’t know before Mahdi will take the place of the leader of Muslim ummah what is waiting for us. We are completely lost in present time.
Very hard to holding the true commandments of Allah Subhan Allahu Ta’la.
@Bennett Nyson
In my country too (Bangladesh) last year 4/5 Ulama passed away. But there are many new scholars comes out warning peoples about
Satanic act by satan allies. May Allah protect our Imaan and guide to the path of Taqowa.
May Allah guide Shabir Ally and all of us
Amrn
Agreed brother !
Those two clowns are paid by the zionists to bad mouth our religion and respected scholar MR Ally
@@sharksteiner2775 I wouldnt call them clowns you obviously seen he has changed the sharia when the Quran already put what to do in those types of situations but he changed them
Ameen
@@sharksteiner2775 shabbir ally hides his manhaj cleverly........which is a warning sign.
"We attach ourselves to personalities rather than attaching ourselves to Quran and sunnah." Spot on Sajid bro.
Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah does not withhold knowledge by snatching it away from his servants, but rather he withholds knowledge by taking the souls of scholars, until no scholar remains and people follow ignorant leaders. They are asked and they issue judgments without knowledge. Thus, they are astray and lead others astray.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 100, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2673
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
To become a muslim we have to accept the entire quran. Rejecting or refuting a verse or part of the verse from the quran may put us in hell fire permanently.
@Atom For a muslim hell is not permanent only for those with right emaan (faith). There is no compromise when it comes to emaan. Meaning, all good deeds will be useless without emaan.
@Atom not that simple bro. Read the quran you’ll understand better.
@Atom I'm sorry i need to know the context.
Shabir trying to change the deen because of secularism. I was watching him on RUclips rejecting tow hadiths that I knew sahib just because of society pressure not because of chain of narration or anything like that.Allah guide us
May Allah guide him
@Mo of petra Jordan if only you knew...
Did Allāh ﷻ have guided him and he retracted his statement?
I respect shabir, he has taught me allot with his debates but every scholar is an expert in a certain way. We have to recognize that as listeners. Even saajid and Farid are not experts in everything. Btw shabir is way way beyond David wood. Let's be honest. Saajid and Farid wouldn't last one min against a Christian apologist worth his salt in a debate. Shabir has defended the deen on the biggest stages against THE best christian apologists. I hear where Farid is coming from, it's a valid and sobering voice but I do also hear many generalisations from Farid, he hasn't even watched many of shabir debates. I recommend he does.
I love this comment
You've earned my respect, brother.
I agree with you
Farid would destroy Wood in a debate what are you talking about lol
@@abdullahahmad9300 I don't rate Wood, lol. No ways, wood is a joke
Sajid is my brother but he needs to chill and give people advice in a better manner. Not in a dismissive or harsh manner.
Yeah, he’s way too harsh
What else should he say? "Oh its okay if he's misguiding the muslims even if he is clearly rejecting the Qur'an as there is literally no difference in opinion in these matters"?
@@abdaalahmad5483 as salaam alikum Manners my brother, not what he said. I made a distinction.
@@abdaalahmad5483 And in who's OPINION is he supposedly 'misguiding' Muslims?? This Sajid guys 'views' are strictly his views and has no bearing or place in the open public domain when he has made no attempt to speak in private to individuals he discredits openly.
People who sit behind their screens all day long talking rubbish about other Muslims deserve no respect or attention as they are doing a disservice to the ummah and themselves. What gives him the right and the authority to dishonour other well established duaat??
This is a very well known hallmark of so called duat who have spent a couple years in an Islamic university and no broader spectrum of study resulting in small mindedness and narrow minded logic and thinking. Yet they act as if they know it all.
And yeah, that's just my OPINION, don't need to accept it.
He needs to keep quiet altogether!
Ain't his place to be discrediting established duaat when he is himself an amateur in the religion.
Sorry brothers, this is not the way to address these things. You can reach out to these duaate and discuss this, the way you speak shows disdain and you're not really giving advice. I think you both need to learn how to speak.
Exactly! Especially Sajiid, who is so new in the Dawah scene. His words are so strong as if he knows Dr. Shabir fron the very start. I was actually disappointed too with Brother Farid. I mean these subject matters are all minor things, and Muslims since the old times have been discussing their differences in minor things. Come on brothers, don't make us think that you're just doing this to snatch attention and subscribers, please. Even the Ulama themselves differ in minor things. And there are 4 schools of thought that differ with each other in minor things. Only the Almighty ALLAH knows everything. May HE forgive us all for all our wrong doings and the sharpness of our tongues.
I would like to add that I do hold the same views that the statements of Dr Shabir do not reflect ijmaa/consensus among scholars but again you need to address people who spent their whole life in daawa with a little bit of respect and just show the proofs without adolescent terms .... wafaqakom Allah
@@zaldssans7412 I don't think the topic of crucifixion of Jesus pbuh is a minor thing. And i don't think any of the scholars differed on that. So it's not just minor things.
@@Mimi-Maa18 in Islam we are told in the Holy Qur'an a mere single verse about the crucifixion of Jesus. That is not a major thing between us Muslims, but definitely a major thing between us and the people of the book. Even if we differ in our comprehension of the ayah, as long as we all arrive at the same conclusion that Eesa alayhis salaam was not killed in any manner, and he was taken by ALLAH subhana wa taala alive, then we are on the same page.
@@zaldssans7412 yes but he said that we can believe that Jesus WAS actually crucified. And that's problematic.
I love Saajid's passion and fierceness for defending the deen. May Allah reward him.
Yea well this comment didn't age well. He's turned into a kharji takfeery dude who's on government payroll like his other madkhalees
It seems performative and insincere. He overcompensates by being a Salafist bro to prove he's more devout than other converts. A lot of his defenses are correct but he can't explain them..
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 thats a non-argument lol with a bunch of deflection. No True Scotsman fallacy. You can't defend anything so you just claim "you're not Muslim enough to criticize me!"
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 you sound stupid. Salafism is a modern movement. don't dishonestly use the prophet PBUH to defend being a modern alt-right Muslim bro.
@@ltopomcfly5583 For you to say this is backbiting and we should assume the best of our fellow Muslims. Only Allah knows who is sincere and who is performing so dial it back and understand that what it "feels" like to you is completely irrelevant. Like who are you and I to try and say who is sincere. We should remain humble and focus on what we can do for the ummah rather than criticizing what is no concern of ours
It would have been better if Farid had asked Dr Shabbir Ally for a live discussion instead.
Totally agreed
They can’t do that because they have no knowledge about Islam or any other religion to debate
The people must stay away from those two Zionist crooks ! They have nothing to do with Islam
Is Shamir ally using Quran and sunnah... no? Stop attaching yourself emotionally to these sheikhs
@Fuad talking about those two clowns who attack Mr Alley
he was flying under the radar this whole time 😂
😂😂😂
He was right under our nose
Yes, it would have been more productive if he took the honorable route of creating an incognito social media profile and leaving one liner comments on refutation videos.
I dont think so, most of us actually knew, but we were waiting to see refutations to him.
@Paco Newwave you need to follow the truth not scholars , they're not prophets , no body said that he is a kafir but he is misleading people by stating his opinions as religion
Thank you brothers.
Islam is pure. Anyone attempting to dilute it should be called out.
If we don't do that, we may fall into the calamity of Christianity that has a lot of interpolation.
Shabir Ally is knowledgeable but often he says problematic things. He modifies clear teachings.
Thank you, brothers, for exposing him.
The world needs to know and avoid his problematic teachings on some issues
"if ofcourse a society so changes that the majority becomes non-muslim" wow! that's shocking statement
Yes it’s shocking, plus the activities of satan allies is making many Muslim atheist.
The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) reminded us in the hadith of musnad ahmed that:
Abu Dhar said, "I was with the Prophet (SAW) one day and I heard him
saying: "There is something I fear for my Ummah than the Dajjal." It was
then that I became afraid, so I said: "Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is
that?" He (SAW) said; "Misguided and astray scholars."
[Musnad Ahmad (5/145) No. 21334 and 21335]
But how can he say that when he forgot the Quran himself...mmhhhh
@@daughterofalmasih7013 keep on chattering. On the Day of Judgement, it'll be fun to see your face when Jesus PBUH rebukes you.
@Samir Disco who came first? The second one is a liar! No one sent him. Further more I love Jesus so much I became a Jew.. jews don’t rate you either. Muhamed married a baby.. prophets don’t do that.. so I’ll stay with my Jesus Thank you.. I can never accept a prophet who had the moral of Muhamed..
@@sahibaahmad6314 I think you should think of yourself o the day of judgement when you tell Jesus you followed a pervert who played with little girls and believed him instead of Jesus. Also I did not lie . Your prophet forgot the Quran..
What is your opinion on how what Uthman did to Abu Dharr?
I love Dr. Shabir Ally but he is not infallible, he is wrong on those issues mentioned here.
Same here brother/sister I will the same way. I am a very big fan of him because I honestly learned a lot from him but what he said in this video is really shocking!!!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Not everyone is bound to accept to your views and interpretations.
Love Allah & his messenger more than aynone else , A wise scholar once said not praise him unless he is dead because the living is still subject to fitnah .
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 All sects are false, there's only 1 true sect: Muslims, those who follow the Quran and the way of the Prophet (SAW)
@@nutellacheese6017 which is to believe in everything and submit to everything Allah has prescribed for us, clearly not what shabir Ally is doing he is literally disagreeing with Allah and its shocking because I really loved that guy in his dawah.
Bro Sajid, we can still refute such views without mocking the person. I noticed Bro Sajid has a pattern of mocking fellow believers when refuting their point. May Allah guide us all.
priority/necessety has laws
sometimes it is necessary
Saajid did not do anything wrong, this is not a matter of ijtihaad
Finally someone made a video about this, he did say stuff that were such a shock to me, like saying that perhaps Allah guides people through different religions. (Though, he seems to have changed his mind on that, or maybe i misunderstood the first time) I just don’t think a person who may cause a lot of harm to the community should be left unaddressed, as many people listen to him. May Allah guide him and everyone else.
He elaborates this further and you will find that his message is a lot more inviting to someone who is not a Muslim and curious about Islam.
@@elias9049inviting? he is a deviant liar.
Islam will not change to fit you in it, rather you have to change to fit in Islam.
I saw the clips you posted some time back ... and I was alarmed when I saw them.
There is nothing wrong with a vanguard of Muslims challenging any corrupt ideas and viruses being introduced into the ummah. There has to exist checks&balances in the ummah. If we don’t have this mechanism, then the ummah will decline. May Allah reward you for your efforts.
Amen
Exactly. Not like some ppl say: "live and let live", or "fix urself then correct others". No one's perfect.
Amen
Keep your wife off your profile pic plz brother. Jzk
When I saw some of Shabir Ally's video I noticed something is fishy about him, something is not right. When he tried to answere some questions I noticed that he takes the middle path, either delibaretely or ignorantly. As a muslim we should always stay strong in our faith and teachings of our Quran and sunnah. We should not reject what was not rejected by Allah and we should have courage to reject what was rejected no matter what the situation is. But taking a middle path is a sign of weak imaan.
This video shows that I was right about Shabir Ally. May Allah guide us all to the straight path and keep us strong in faith.
"taking the middle path is a sign of weak iman" i am sorry?
Well dr shabir isn't a jihadi extremist
@@LeafSoulsI think what he means is that if something is against the religion for example, there is tendency amongst some current speakers in which they don't proclaim it and hold firm upon it but rather speak about it using philosophy and water it down to make it more friendly for liberals.
@@superheronebil oh
So using Shabir Ally's logic one could also say: "in modern times were there is so much concern in promoting LGBT rights, it would be out of place (for Muslims) to apply the ban on gay marriage".
@Imran Rasheed this is the core reason my friend
Yeah because we are minority?
Alhamdullilah someone finally refutes him, JazakAllahukhrain for your work brothers
Finally he gets refuted
Aayyy, I'm here. thank you for having me farid. i really appreciated it
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman reported: The people used to ask the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, about good, but I would ask about evil for fear it would overtake me. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, we were in ignorance and evil and Allah sent us this good. Will there be evil after this good?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “Will there be good after that evil?” The Prophet said, “Yes, but within it is smoke.” I said, “What is its smoke?” The Prophet said, “A people who are not guided by my guidance. You will recognize them and reject them.” I said, “Will there be evil after that good?” The Prophet said, “Yes, callers to the gates of Hellfire. Whoever answers them will taste it from within.” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us.” The Prophet said, “They are from our progeny and speak our language.” I said, “What do you command me should that overtake me?” The Prophet said, “Hold fast to the community of Muslims and their leader.” I said, “What if there is no community and no leader?” The Prophet said, “Then withdraw from all of the sects, even if you must bite at the root of trees until death overtakes you in that state.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3411, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1847
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim
I love brother Muhammad Tim Humble’s classes. He is MaShaAllah very knowledgeable and someone we can trust to get ilm from. He has done videos on the subjects like “Are Women in Islam are oppressed” and “Is Sharia Barbaric” and many more and MaShaAllah he’s done a beautiful job explaining everything with dalils from the Quran and Sunnah Alhamdullilah. We don’t need to be apologetic because we have the haqq Alhamdullilah.
@9-11 a mossad van bomber plot? Aipac cover up? wa yiakum
Young Muslims like these two are always overzealous. Shabir has a doctorate in quranic exegesis and these two babies think that they know what they're talking about really? They have little knowledge and even less understanding. And of course the wisdom of 20 year olds. Come back with your opinion of Shabir in 30 years please.
So because Shabir has a doctorate that gives him the right to lie about Islam? Shabir Ally believes the hijab isn’t obligatory and that women can lead men in prayers.
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 Do you have a doctorate? Respect people who are way more knowledgeable than you please.
@@MX4evaFarid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Funny thing is that show alli does is called let the quran speak 😁
And he goes completely against the quran
That's double standards
Good pick up.
I hope he is a quranist (who only claim to follow Quran not hadiths hence the name)
@@yahyaabbie9795 he prioritize Quran before hadith so that why. Let The Quran Speak First.
@Imdad Sk I follow Hadith for sure (i am not hadith rejector, may God forbid) so does Dr shabir, but what i am saying is whenever Dr shabir asked a question, he first see it from *Quran first* then he will elaborate further using Hadith, and as for fornication he said male and female fornicators should be slashed and the elaboration shouldn't be 100 slash or capital punishment.
May Allah guide Dr Shabir Ally. . .
May Allah guide all of us
Just woke up for fajr and saw farid posting
the timing is as bad as CP's lies😆(sarcastic)
XDDD good joke
@@basedcat7326 XD
@@nowajishmuhtadee2731 Bro where do you live? Coz I share the same timings with you🤣
@@jna21 Dhaka,Bangladesh ofc
@@nowajishmuhtadee2731 Lol,me too. That's why I asked you this😂
I'm so glad you did a video on him. I even complained on his channel about his views. It seems they're catering for everyone and he sits on the fence a lot. Trying to please everyone. If he just said the verses and explained what is the question then that would be the best way.
@@christianfamilyman4476 dude......you do realise that most muslims want to debate Christians but your Christian leaders run away in fear of refutation of their biblical claims.
@@christianfamilyman4476 You better more often to watch speaker corner
@@christianfamilyman4476 you can't debate people who are indoctrinated.
@@christianfamilyman4476 many muslim leaders, the ones I am talking about are not popular international but very popular in my country. Btw your silence is even more deafening, list me some Christian leaders who have tried to debate Muslim leaders.
imam murrah it is me spooderman. I have a question: What is the secret formula for the time machine?
I myself do not know it my son might come respond to this maybe he will release it
@Abu Murrah Al Himar that's what im confused about imam murrah calls me dad but also calls you dad I don't know who's the real one what timeline are you from?
@Abu Murrah Al Himar to bad you've joined 1 month ago ;) I am the real one but its all good u just might be me from a different timeline
Ask my dad
@@basedcat7326 yes inshallah once i get the formula then i shall become imam spooderman inshallah
So bro Saajid, you say you dont care about the opinion of western based muslim figures. So why excatly should we take YOUR OPINION on YOUR UNDERSTANDING of Quran and Sunnah? Because your understanding is exactly that - YOUR PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING. You talk as if your version of Islam is the ultimate, conclusive, indisputable, unquestionable Islam for all the world. So please do tell, what gives you this entitlement?? Becauses lets face it, if RUclips wasnt ever invented, so too would be the case for your 'concern' for the muslim discourse taking place today. You would never have known of Shabir Ally, Dr Yaasir Qhadi etc. What entitles you to your divisive views about others!?
And please, dont tell me you Went to 'Madina University'! As if to say its THE one stop, powerhouse of knowledge, cuz it aint!
If you listened carefully, he said it's the understanding of the companions, not his own understanding.
@@Mimi-Maa18 You see your not even listening to your own absurdity! Who gets to explain and translate what 'the understanding of the companions' were? And furthermore, who gets to decide how those rulings and principles are applicable and applied in todays world!??
If your suggesting this Saajid fella gets to decide then that is very laughable! The guy thinks that ANY form of western education is based on orientalists views and underpinned by some sort of hidden agenda to missguide the world into a dark pit of doom! This is a form of narrow mindedness that is prevalent with people coming out of Saudi Arabia and particularly these so called Madina University 'students of knowledge'
Seriously, you guys need to get your heads out of your own backsides and get out into the real world where interaction with the people of the world will reveal the challenges we face as muslims when it comes to applying islam to the wider world. Not an Islam formed sat in my bedroom, behind a screen with hoody over myhead! You lot need to grow the hell up!
@@dewanchowdhury4818 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
So if a companion applied the punishment for theft, you need someone to explain to you that ? ?
Not to mention the explanations of the scholars from the salaf who had a better understanding of islam than we do.
@@Mimi-Maa18 Your clearly still very young and have a very elementary level of intellect as your not understanding the ramifications of what your talking about. Niether are you equipped to understand the deeper essence of the law of Allah.
Do you ponder over why Allah says; 'My Mercy overpowers my Anger'
@@dewanchowdhury4818 ohh and you do ? Now I am not surprised why you are defending Shabir Ally.
I am saying we follow the understanding of the scholars of the salaf, but you somehow think you know better.
Guys please. You guy are in you twenties. How long have you been studying these matters in Islam? Don't get arrogant because you maybe studied a few year. I mean, you are judging a respected older brother who has many more years of studying. This doesn't look good guys.
Don't speak useless stuff. Look at the numerous evidences and use your brain.
@@n.a3642 let give you, our islamic "stuff knower", an example of the prophet (saw). Reflect and think about it.
Gonna keep it short because i dont want to type a lot for you.
Woman came to prophet because she felt she needed to be stoned for her adultry. She confessed of her sin to the prophet (saw). He turned away from her. This was repeated 3 times befor people who where there stoned her while she ran away.
The prophet was not happy with what they did. He said, why stone her? She obviously regrets what she did.
Question to you? Did the prophet (saw) became kafir here (astagfiroullah)? The law is clear yet he didnt wanted to go there as quick as you "learned men" in their 20tees want (blood).
Dont try to be a judge in you twenties if you just studied islam maybe 2, 5 or 10 years.
Our early scholars studied all their life yet didnt dare to rush to judging. Learn from that.
@@wade5761 he was Rasulullah sallahualaihiwasallam and he gets Wahi... We are not Rasulullah
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
These days you really need to know and understand the beliefs of the one who you take Islamic material from. Also folks, looks can be deceiving.
The Holy Quran says it's better to forgive than to punish. So if there's an alternative to chopping off someone's hand, and that deterrent is more than 95% effective, then what's wrong with implementing that deterrent? As technology advances, and replacing a human hand with a bionic one, becomes accessible and affordable to the masses, then chopping off a hand as a punishment will lose its effectiveness in terms of a deterrent. That's the point Dr. Ally was making.
And what's the reason you blurred out the woman interviewing Dr. Ally? She was covered and dressed conservative but you still blurred her out? I don't agree with that.
I agree also the economic downsides of chopping a criminals hands in the 21st century is that that person who is a amputee will become disabled and this will cost the state alot of money in welfare and medical fees.
Stoning as a command for married proven adulterers has not been abrogated only its reading as a verse has as per Sahih Muslim 1691a.
Maybe they wanted to save her reputation from being linked to Shabir Ally's.
So why would you not go in debate with him. Talking here without him having the chance to respond is a weak thing to do. There are a lot people now a days muslims because of this man. Are you saying they are now following wrong islam?
He did not even mention hassad. So why are taking conclusions?
He is not good at debating? Your research about Shabir Ally is really bad.
If he has some things that are not good debate about it. But you are portrating him really bad. Farid mentioned David Wood in the same sentence as Shabir Ally. Come on you got to be kidding me. Really arrogant.
I totally agree with you brother.
No one is Muslim because of this man. Imaan in a ni'ma from Allah (Awj). Snake Nazim had thousand of followers; it doesn't make them Muslims if their imaan is based upon falsehood.
If one is sincere, then Allah SWT will guide him/her to the haq.
The brothers in this video have spoken the truth in correcting Shabir.
Also if Shabir is willing to express his views in a Public video, then he should expect any refutations in the same way.
Ignorant is heavy word, you should use it more carefully.
@@dnz1able i said arrogant not ignorant. When christian people check out his videos and way of debating they turn to islam. Allah guides that is ultimately but why people do dawah? I do not know this guy you mentioned but i do know Shabir. I follow his debates since 2008 on RUclips and portraiting him like this in this video is wrong. As i said he did not mention hassad if you would ask him about hassad he can give his response. Shabir Ally is a real knowledgeable man and these guys came yesterday gain some followers and are now portraiting Shabir as a not well educated muslim. That is a ARROGANT thing to do. That is my opinion.
@@MarocTeamCod we do not fear the blame of the blamers.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
But stoning is not actually mentioned in the Quran? Stoning was back then a normal and accepted practice for dealing with adulterers and they continued that practice, doesnt necessarily make it Divine decree that stoning is a MUST. It doesn't seem God's way to interfere with cultures and norms without strict reason. For instance, polygamy was a normal practice in those times. To deal with the issue of men marrying orphans and dealing them a bad hand, the Quran instructed these men to instead marry amongst free women although restricting the number and putting the condition of equal treatment. This doesnt necessarily mean that as times change, cultures change, and socio-economic dynamics change, that polygamy cant be outlawed in societies as they see fit. It seems less of a Divine right given to men and more of God addressing the issue of marrying orphans for unjust reasons by telling these men what the better option was. God's way seems to be operating within their cultural/ societal norms only explicitly forbidding what is inherently harmful or immoral. Stoning isnt inherently bad bc ppl in past societies obviously did it with it being the opposite of socially disruptive and they didnt see it as barbaric. If revelations continued, I believe we'd see a prophet today jail adulterers rather than the stone bc it IS societal disruptive today and we have a cultural lens that tells us it's barbaric. Dr. Shabir Ally denies stoning is Shariah bc it shouldn't be a part of absolute religious law.
الله يهديك
@@Mimi-Maa18 amin
Radulullah sallallahu aleyhi wa sallam commanded stoning so we will stone Allah guide you
Stoning as a command for married proven adulterers has not been abrogated only its reading as a verse has as per Sahih Muslim 1691a.
Br. Shabir has more life experience and understanding in his pinky finger than these two “kids” have in their collective experience. Beware you kids don’t end up like the kawaraaj and start to kill those you disagree with not just use harsh language to disrespect those that paved the way for Muslim communities in the West so you both could have the opportunity to sit here and blast them decades later. A complete disgraceful act by you two self-righteous brothers - sorry to say. May God soften your hearts and guide you in the future and make you less rigid souls and have tolerance for others, especially within your own deen WHO are allowed to have differing opinions based on their interpretations. Who died and made you two 17 year olds the leader of Islamic theology and jurisprudence? Just wondering ...
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
There is value in Br Farid doing the video. But the moment I see Br Saajid I see negativity. Br Farid does a lot for the Ummah, but what benefit did Br Saajid do other than putting other muslims down?
That's exactly what I thought as well. I don't really hear anything of substance from Lipham besides generic criticism laden buzzwords.
his doing the right thing orders good andcondems bad or do you think it is bad to tell people their shortcomings so they try to fix them
@@some2043 first tell them personally, and then make a video. Most of the brothers who Br. Saajid makes a video on, he has the ability to contacr directly. Simply making a living out of attacking others is not promoting good and forbidding evil, but earming from the negative algorithms of the youtube. Unfortunately, we an an ummah clicks on condemnation videos more than beneficial videos and like to put down others. May Allah guide us all.
You uploaded at the same time
Unfortunately, no one can debate christians as he does. I am hoping that more traditional muslims havd his skills in debates.
False. I advise you to watch Ijaz The Trini for a textual and historical critique of Christianity and Jake The Mulim Metaphysician for a theological/philosophical one.
@@WiskisO I did. They absolutely don't have Shabir's skills. Shabir is very sharp and quick.
I think Hijab was great with wood too
I would like to know the reasons Shabbir Ally has for his opinion rather than this useless slander.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the original ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
@@abuyusha8740Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
To be honest, I've not seen any Shabir Ally videos that I disagree with. Same as Zakir Naik and Ahmed Deedat. Never seen any videos that I disagree with. And am just a normal Muslim living in the UK doing a standard job.
Me, as a Muslim, I’m really getting tired of everybody criticizing each other. Especially youngsters. You guys need to stop this. It’s not good for the ummah.
"It's not good for the ummah" , yeah I guess following deviant views is good for the ummah. What is wrong with you guys ?
@Abdul Haqq don’t you think he has arguments for those statement? Why would you be so sure yours are better? Scholars/leaders have always interpreted and implemented Islam differently. Why would you be so confident your view is the right one? Stop this arrogant behavior. Shabir has been studying this Deen problably longer as these guys have been alive. Have some decency and take from him what is good and leave what you think is bad.
@@Mimi-Maa18 the only deviant thing here is the arrogant behavior you guys show. What makes you so confident your view is the only correct one?
@@abreganovic2872 because that's the view of the salaf. We don't follow modernists who want to reform the religion to fit western values.
@@Mimi-Maa18 you just proved to me that there is no point in talking. Salam alaykum
Really br shabir?secular over sharia? Just look at the state of Bangladesh and you may just eat your words. Your early works were inspiring, time to retire. May Allah swt have mercy on us all🤲🏾
Are you saying you agree with shabir
@@hadi8699 Not on these matters no. Peace
What happened to Bangladesh ?
I am a Bangladeshi. What happened?
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 yes common across the Indian subcontinent
Do you know the number of persons who are Muslims today because of the Jihad of Dr Shabir Ali.
Brother Farid I respect you a lot but not on this. The truth is their is need to speak with any Muslim scholar or brother if found lacking.. Listen to them, Correct them and request for them to give public dawah on the topic if they accept correction on the errors, instead of this consistent criticism of Muslims speakers..
Salam
@hamza. Yes he is doing Jihad. But not for Allah. Rather, it is for the Shaytaan. Shabir Alley is an orientalist and caller to the gates of Hellfire. “But he has done so much to refute Christian theology” you say. So what! His refutation of Christianity does NOT negate his clear attempts to dismantle the handholds of Islam. May Allah protect the Muslims from his evil.
@Muhammad Yasin M Same was said on Dr Zakir Naik, but what we fail to understand is they are humans and 100% of everything can't be expected of them.. They make mistakes to as you also do.. Though I am not suppose to reply you cause you already passed judgment on him already.. Let's think before we speak.. May Allah guide us all
@@hamzahamidu4074 This isn’t simply a “mistake”. It is his ideological orientation which at its front and centre is founded upon the idea that the legislation of Allah is an anachronism. Therefore every thing he says about Islam is coming from this prism, and not simply a mistake. He is evil.
@@Mozee854 😳😲 Anachronism? Really.. How do you come to make a final decision on a man's taught.. And if you read my reply you will see I said if a man is seen lacking in his teaching.. He should be called, corrected, and requested to make a public lecture on the issue, instead of the public criticism...
@The troll master Thanks
The hudud punishments are already applied by Allah, mankind enacting them is only for showing mercy.
Baarak Allah feekum ustad Farid for give me information about this channel one dawah.
Why is that Farid, and others here, dare to debate people like Shabbir Ally (who have the courage the debate non-Muslims). Why only criticize the bravest Muslims who are willing to debate the enemies of Islam? Also, which university did Sheikh Albani graduate from?
bro, Farid is debating non muslims. but still you are talking out of emotion. Shabir Ally is rejecting clear Quran verses. Use your brain.
@@hungryhugo7400 show me one debate Farid has had? Why doesn't Farid call Shabbir to debate and then we can judge?
@@hungryhugo7400 he rejects hadith not Quran
@@abdulmohammed2769 yes, the cutting off of the hand of a thief is in the quran, as well as black magic and the most important thing he rejects that ot should be ruled by sharia (Surah 5 Verses 44 -47)
@@atilaorhan927 what makes you so zealous for one person, he clearly rejects quran and hadith and you still wanna defend him him. I'm not a fan of farid I'm not so zealous about him, he also had many wrong stuff in Aqida (fundamentals of belief).
It's not about he debatet or not. You clearly speak out of emotions bcs u liked Shabirs debates with the Christians (BTW i did too), but thats not proving anyone to have knowledge in Islam, don't be fooled with the looks. I saw many Christians having debates with eachother, will you defend the Jehovas and accept everything he says. No right! The only person we shoudl defend at any time is RasulAllah, peace and belssings of Allah be upon him. Who re Farid and Shabir?
Brother Saajid and Daniel Haqeqatjou are gems AlhamduLillah
Daniel didn't got the knowledge of deen from the people of the sunnah. A deobandi fan.
madkhalis live rent free in DH head
Did he just say democracy works well.......what the heck!!??
There is an arab channel by the name of kosay making a series of "لماذا تركت الاسلام" (why I left islam).
It would be cool if you debunk them
Check out Haitham Tala’at, he destroys his arguments.
Credentials??? What are your credentials in comparison to shabir ally. He would honestly school you both.
Shabir ally has put in more in to the dawah scene than both of you arrogant brothers combined.
You could have easily reached out to Dr Shabir ally behind the scenes and voice your concerns.
But hey let’s get some for face time on camera instead.
Fellow listeners we need to keep a balanced view. These two brothers are ok but all I see is videos of other peoples faults only.
Pure arrogance from these two standard bearers of Islam.
Jokers.
I agree that Dr. Shabir Ally has contributed good towards the Ummah too, but we need to address this too
I really disliked that conversation brother Farid, Saajid doesnt try to understand the point that brother Shabbyr brings accross, neither do you. Very disappointing
Agreed, they were like a pack of wolves turning on one of their own. Its a thing that the younger generation like to do. Turn on the older, wiser generation. This isn't a gang! you dont climb the ladder of Islam by turning on your elders! Dr. Ally has been through it and cut his teeth and deserves better than this troubling smear. Its obvious Dr. Allys clips were edited and cut. Anyway, I pray that Allah (swt) guides us all. We are a mess today as an Ummah because of these self inflicting actions.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Who is this Saajid guy, always condemning someone and I am surprised at Farid.
Why do you say this like they didn't provide evidence for everything. Do you not understand that his views are against what ISLAM says? Why defend that?!?
Hamza Yusuf needs to be called out also. May Allah guide him and all of us.
Why? What did he do?
@@UriPhoneCracker He said studying Aqeeda is a disease a while ago but he never apologised or retracted the statements. He said you can learn Aqeeda in 10 minutes. Plus he sings the Burda which is full of Shirk. With lines saying the Prophet SAW controls Yawm al-Qiyamah and he has knowledge of Lawh ul-Mahfuz. Astaghfirullah.
Can't thank you enough for doing this. Jazak Allah khair. i have been finding a lot of Shabir Ally's speeches to be problematic over the years so this was very necessary.
Brother sajid, I just to give you heads up, if you post and farid the same video RUclips takes it down make sure there is small adjustments made
Why does farid always post at weird times
Probably praying tahajjud.
Probably different Time Zones etc...
Most likely different time zones
Hes from Bahrain
@@safaamari1438 I’m in his time zone it’s 3 AM Now lmao
The magic discussion reminded me of the ignorance of Abu Layth and his ideas on black magic. 🤦🏾
Go tell a muslim full of doubts that magic is real and he will leave islam in an instant, Be smart like shabir and you'll slowly help him digest the reality of magic as it is described. if you believe in magic good on you any muslim with basic knowledge believes in djinns and magic, Shabir is speaking to millions and he has to use the right words. also comparing shabir to abu layth whats next compare him to david wood just like farid did? astagfirullah
@@gaunterdimm7522 If you are agreeing with Shabir Ally’s tactics then God bless you but no one needs a half baked Islam to be given to them. Take all of Islam or none of it.
@@gaunterdimm7522 There is no different between what Abu Layth is doing and what Shabir Ally has done. They are both giving you a watered down version of Islam.
@suleiman _36 bro no there isn’t. They both water down Islam and I said specifically when it comes down to black magic they have the same stance. Did you not read my comment?
@suleiman _36 *better
I was just going to ask you on Twitter when the video will be out
Lol he's too fast
Shabbir should stick to his lane debating Christian apologists. There's a pattern emerging amongst these famous islamic figures, it's quite shocking.
@Abdul Haqq agreed🙌
@Abdul Haqq
Yes
@Abdul Haqq so salafis like mohhamed hijab and farid responds are real scholars
Or are you talking about a masjid in Saudi Arabia
Ahhh yes wahabism
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 same like abdurahman hassan getting exposed by bro hajji. Where abdurahman hassan was not fully sharing the hadeeth and also putting forward a hadeeth which agreed with his methodology (ibn Abdul wahab), even though the chain of that hadeeth was not Sahih.
The most important Muslim apologetic in islam
1. Ahmed deedat
2. Zakir naik
3. Shabir ally.
These are the best and in that order.
I believe shabir is the most knowledgeable.
Naik the most talented.
Deedat the first and most important.
agree with you
Shabir Ally believes the hijab isn’t obligatory and that women can lead men in prayers.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
That is why ALLAH said Muhammad will testify against his Ummah on the day of Judgement because of these controversial hadiths that Muslims fabricated after him.
The subject of stoning is not in the Holy Quran.
So let's leave it to ALLAH to decide and the Messenger to testify.
Let’s all fear Allah and obey the Messenger (peace be upon him)
I love how it's only been 25 minutes and there's already 12 dislikes it's as if people are subscribed and have the notification bell on just to put a dislike
@Abdul Haqq ikr
Most likely shabir fans
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 dude you don't reason not only in this comment but every one
And also why hate on shias I'm not one but they are Muslims too
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 your too gone
Brainwashed to the max
But likes will always surpass dislikes. Because truth always prevails.
brother saajid is a gem Alhamdulillah , May Allah guide shabir ally and us Aameen
Thank you for bringing the corruption of Shibir Ally and like. May Allah reward you and other brothers who are bringing these into light ameen. These religious figures have a very large follower base. Therefore it is important to use mass media to do constructive criticism about their corruption so regular Muslims understand the true Islam. Since these religious people are not retracting what they have said in the past, these are not mistakes but corruptions from them.
Shabir ally r not corrupted bro
Listen carefully
It is important to note however that Dr. Shabir Ally is just thinking out loudly and not preaching, he makes it very clear. Thinking is a dynamic process, hence why in his newer videos, he's talking a bit differently about certain things, you've shown in these video now like his views on Black Magic. Dr. Shabir Ally doesn't preach made up information/pure opinion like Abu Layth in an ordering manner. Dr. Zakir Naik is very much appreciated in our community, but that's also the one thing I don't like about him. He isn't sometimes truthful about topics he is unsure about, but rather preaches one command as if he was 100% sure about it, just to change his view a couple years later. I would much rather have a scholar that shares his thoughts about uncertain topics and who makes it clear that these are only his thoughts. Plus many things you're criticizing like the punishments mentioned in Ahadith for apostasy for instance are debated things among scholars nevertheless, since the Qur'an for instance says that people may leave and join Islam and repeat that when they want to and some Hadith even say that stoning was abrogated. I quite honestly don't enjoy the direction you're going to with your channel, it started off as an informative channel, where you corrected other people that were spreading false information in a kind manner and about Islamic history, but now it's become more and more a platform for the sole purpose of criticizing people and approaching them with prejudice. This also shows itself in the ignorant comments that now get like hundreds of likes and upvotes under your recent comments. May Allah (s.w.t.) guide us to the right path.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
I'm starting to not liking these kind of videos
Me too, al these young RUclips sheikhs do is criticize each other.
Yeah i think they're both better internal discussion with sabir first instead of publish a video to criticize in public.
By Allah I hardly watch YQ and I followed Dr. Shabbir's debates. About Dr. Shabbir I was aware of his certain problematic views and hoped he stick to debating Christians. And I'm sufficiently conservative in my views regarding Islam but this trend of refutation culture is becoming ugly now. I'm sick and tired of it. People should themselves be able to see where a scholar or any person sliped regarding Deen. These casual discussions with no academic values are becoming a cancer on Ummah. Instead of pointing out mistakes in a person why not educate Muslims about right things, how to approach religious knowledge, how to judge.
This backbiting stuff is kind of cringe. May Allah help us. Subhan Allah the priorities of Ummah.
If they could respectfully hold an academic debate people may benefit but this approach creates animosity. I have not seen Dr. Shabbir criticizing a Muslim as such or being militant in spreading his beliefs (I disagree with him regarding some of his views). We can't disregard his work for Ummah by debating doubters of Islam and coming on top Alhamdulillah.
Disagreements (if) should be done but in a suitable manner. Dawah should not become fasad by tearing down the fabric of the Ummah.
@@asfiah1740 I really agree with you and @Sanwar and @Samo Laganini. Simple differences in opinion and interpretations of the Holy Quran and the hadith have been existence long before these two young critics. They should be aware of that, and be very careful in criticism. And yes, they should first talk with anybody they differ with, instead of posting videos like this, which seems to me as more of wanting to gain more audience, than to correct mistakes. Very un-Islamic approach to a fellow Muslim.
Please be respectful to other Scholars who are more knowledgeable than you both. People like Shabir Ally has defended Islam in many platforms and inspired many non practicing muslims to actively practice Islam & increase faith.
May Allah bless us all.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! I found the original real video of Shabbirs response on RUclips, something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
What makes Shabir a ''scholar'' because he had debates with christians? True scholars are Ibn taymiyyah, Ibn Al Qayyim, Sheikh Saleh Luhaidan, Sheikh Al Albani, Sheikh Saleh al fawzan, and so on..
@@a.d2019 because of his PHD among other qualifications which most these self proclaimed RUclips dawah guys would never have the intelligence to possess.
@@noorahamid3376
Yasir Qhadi also has a PHD among other qualifications, but he has also spoken nonsense on several occasions.
Remember that Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) was illiterate and he is still the best of mankind. The Quraysh mocked him for being illiterate; don't make the same mistake they did.
Having a PHD, does not give people wisdom. If so, Albert Einstein, Newton and other great atheist scientists should be Muslims.
May Allah forgive you.
As salamu alaikum.
@@human0_0skull everything you said is debatable. In life many people either choose superstition and stories or reason. The prophet may have been illiterate however, he had revelation directly given to him thus, being taught directly by God. Whenever you follow any Muslim opinion, hadith or interpretation, you are following someone's interpretation of what they saw/heard/understood. Having a PhD is one step closer to being someone whose looked at most of the information out there on the topic they've studied and grappled with it to come to an opinion based on evidence they've gathered and that's many steps closer than a person whose just regurgitating the 'mainstream' most funded opinion in their region which they've done so much mental acrobatics to barely convince themselves of let alone, anyone with. Shred of critical thinking skills.
Most people who quickly dismiss scholars like shabiry ally and yasir qhadi do so without carefully listening to how they arrived at their conclusions and the evidences they provide. If you listen carefully and without fear that your religious foundation and preconceived notions are going to shatter, you will be able to understand that their reasoning is usually more superior to most regurgitated opinion out there and adheres to the quran more closely thus being a more viable option.
I actually like watching his old debates with christians but as time goes on, his views gets weirder and weirder. I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed this... since I’m no scholar, I can’t really refute him in views that I don’t agree with... I still have a lot to learn
Quran 61:2-3 "O believers! Why do you say what you do not do?
How despicable it is in the sight of Allah that you say what you do not do!"
Favourite past time of a salafi.... Refutation.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
2 minutes early hi farid :D
Only religions can convince you that stoning is good and cutting hands is good. Horrible.
Yea well, sajid didn't turn out who we thought he was. He's turned into a kharji takfeery dude who's on government payroll like his other madkhalees
Quranic Teachings about Satan and about Morality
Some claim that the Quran was the work of the devil.[1] Let us examine how much sense (or non-sense) this allegation makes.
If he authored or inspired the Quran, why would Satan curse himself and call himself the worst enemy of man (Q.35:6; 36:60)? Why would Satan command that before reciting the Quran, one must first say:
“…I seek refuge in God from Satan the accursed.” (Quran 16:98)
How could Satan so vehemently condemn himself? Is it really acceptable to common sense to hold the view that Satan would ask people to do good, to be moral and virtuous, to worship none but God, to not follow Satan or his whispers, and to avoid and struggle against evil?
To hold such a view is clearly repugnant to reason, as Satan has only undermined himself through this means if he is the author. Even the Bible attests:
“And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.” (Mark 3:26)[2]
This argument applies to any “Satanic forces”, be they “evil spirits”, “deceitful aliens”, etc
I love too listen to shabi Ali and I'm a christian
susan read more about Islam then convert 👌
You love to listen to shabir Ali *because* you're a Christian
well ofc u do
which country do u live Farid, just wondering about your mention of no cars being stolen, lol
he lives in bahrain
To be fair, there's something called the letter of the law and the spirit of the law in fiqh, so each law has a specific intention that's meant to have a specific effect, if that effect stops working, there's no point in applying that law, so when sheikh shabir ally says he doesn't think stoning should be applied, its because the effect of that law will not work on modern people due to how soft they are. Stoning is there as an expiation and prevention for adultery, modern people who aren't used to these harsh laws and are used to committing zina will find this really hard to accept and it might even turn away some people from Islam (which it does) therefore it's part of wisdom and mercy to not apply such a harsh law to a soft and relaxed people. This method is extracted from how the Qur'an was revealed, Allah first gave warning for alcohol, then He prohibited it during certain times and then He sent down a verse comepletely making alcohol haram, likewise we need a similar methldology to the people. You need to be flexible, fiqh changes with the people and time. Islam is about ease and Allah loves ease.
Both saajid and farid are salafis meaning they follow the hanbali methodology (following the literal meaning of the text) this is a valid methodology but its not right to impose this methodology as the ONLY way to interpret Islam like most salafis (unintentionally) do. Islam is about being deeper, Allah praises the men of understanding but its sad how the salafi/hanbali methodology has influenced people and thus have made the masses into extremists in religion.
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Mr Ali appears to be making it up as he goes along. Just his opinions... Allah revealed the quran to his messenger, may his peace and blessings be upon him. This is what we follow not feelings and "I think" and desires, subhanAllah.
Saajid is the Wahhabi student par excellence!
13:16 they have to recognise 'the rights of women' like that hit me hard bruuh...
Jazakallah khair Akhis, if that's a word 😁
XD
Is called Ikhwan brothers not akhis not such thing brother means akh
I really like Shabir Ally and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Asalaamu alaikum warehmathallahi was barakaatahu. YES! Check again, something's not right here. His shirt color changes from blue to grey. Video has been cut up. His real response was given in the original ORIGINAL 5-6 minute video. Where he mentions the ayah of the Quran and Hadith respectfully. This "One Dawa" person who compiled it has made Farid and Saajid utter a lie against Shabir Ali unwittingly.
Cause you’re not that smart
@@TheBiovert very respectful… may Allah swt punish you
@@SamSam-df9hy do you know about the hadith about "cursing people"?. You're gonna curse your brother just because he chose a few words that can be seen as "offensive"? The moment you cursed him, the curse came back to you. Try to be smart next time.
Shabir Ally believes the hijab isn’t obligatory and that women can lead men in prayers.
Had to unsubscribe. This is not the right way to do it.
What is then?
@@n.a3642 talking to him privately
@@abdulmohammed2769 For this case, I disagree.
@@abdulmohammed2769
Bro 😎 how can you rationalize or justify rejecting Quran verses
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
Shabir Ally is the best debater/speaker from the Muslim camp. Educated, humble, smart.
If I or anyone were to revert to Islam from the educational camp it would be from him.
Except for the fact that he believes in Islam.
Wat?
Wtf is dis guy talking about “the angels taught magic for good and the devils changed it” the angels were teaching magic and SAID it was A TEST. They warned them not to do it. It was never a good thing
Saajid: don’t be fooled by the beard and kufi
Really Saajid? Really?
??
@@abdullahshariff3201 look who has a beard and kufi
@@abreganovic2872 The point he is making is that not all who has a beard and a kufi are on the straight path. He is not saying he is deviant just because he has a beard and a kufi.
Don’t be ignorant we don’t base righteousness off looks
The Problem with this so called "Muslim Apologetics" like Shabir Ali, Zakir Naik ect is clear, they go beyond their capabilities like giving fatwa on issues and religious matter where they have no knowledge about it because they did not study under scholars rather they got their knowledge from here and there and mixed their Islamic beliefe with western idiologie! This guys should stick to that what they know for certainty or retire at all! In many cases like Shabir ally it's the best to retire bcs his mind is to corrupted and he follows his whims and desires! I end my words with the words of Muhammad bin Sireen (may Allah have mercy on him) “Verily, this knowledge is deen (religion), so look to whom you take your knowledge from”.
doesn't shabir have PhD in islamic studies? that would make him knowledgeable. also zakir naik is a doctoor - very learned man isn't he?
@@liberator275 shabir ally is misguided beware him
@@abdikariimaliahmed1727 why? shabir knows koran is full of issues, and he's slowly coming out with it.
@@liberator275 didn't you get enough about what you have seen
@@liberator275Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading wrong information:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
This makes me sad. I was watching his debates years and years ago and I really rated him.
My first inkling of trouble was when he shared his view on the crucifixion of Isa (as) quite a few years ago. I thought, fair enough, it's his view - it's not right but khayr.
All this other stuff is deeply saddening
I agree I enjoyed seeing him debate too bad he's not trustable
I think you should get off this channel and maybe do your own research so you can understand Shabir Ally's view?
You do know that Farid and Sajid are both Salafis. So where they are coming from is different to where Shabir is coming from
Instead of making reply videos etc, they should get in touch with Shabir Ally and not just take a clip and make a WHOLE judgement on him
@Abdul Haqq
Look at his playlists
@@ItachiAli1993 Go & see Shabbir ally supporting Gay preist.
He even invited that preist in his channel.
There was a Jewish Russian rabbi who even stated that "democracy is the ultimate atheism."
Both sajid and farids reactions were bang on it shows contrast brothers, how a person deals and feels about a particular issue . Theres a Hadith about becoming annoyed/angry for sake of Allah and its like a great thing emaan wise (sweetness of faith)
Also I see the hikmah in farids reaction even though farid is naturally a calm brother anyways and when things do get under his skin he masks it well it’s a great virtue to have it’s called temperance many other great charactersistic traits come from this foundational trait of the human being.
Great work brothers in these times we should hold brotherhood high may Allah reward you both with good. Amin!
You 2 so confusing sunnah sunnah sunnah quran quran But not Quoting references Shabir is one of very clear Ulemah
Farid was educated at an Islamic university whereas Shabir Ally was not. Even the young can correct the old when it comes to the deen, especially if the old is spreading clearly wrong information about Islam like Shabir Ally was in this video:
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent troops appointed Usama bin Zaid as their commander. The people criticized his leadership. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) got up and said, "If you (people) are criticizing his (i.e. Usama's) leadership you used to criticize the leadership of his father before. By Allah, he (i.e. Zaid) deserved the leadership indeed, and he used to be one of the most beloved persons to me, and now this (i.e. his son, Usama) is one of the most beloved persons to me after him."
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4469
This is a beautiful collab
Ikr
We cannot take away the fact that Shabbir Ally is a qualified scholar, he has a degree from an esteemed Islamic university and impressive credentials & very knowledgeable in biblical studies.
His viewpoint may be different but thats a different matter.
His views are too dangerous to make excuses for him
@@yahyaabbie9795 - you cannot say he is not a scholar- Are you even half a scholar to determine this matter?
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
He is a scholar whereas you are not ... thats the difference.
We cannot say a scholar is not a scholar if he is qualified. Different scholars have different views on the same matter.
@@Glajdar yes Al-hamdulillaah, am a half scholar than him coz l can't say heretical views as he does
@@yahyaabbie9795 - half scholar cannot compete with full scholarship..heretical views? Not sure about that bro