I don't even like to talk trash about T-Mac. I feel that he was a great player that simply had mediocre talent around him. Still I loved watching T-Mac play. Even today, when he comes off the bench, I still enjoy watching him play.
yea he was the truth, ashamed what injuries do to the talented... i was just watching that Bo Jackson 30 for 30 thinking bout all the dudes whose career ended do to injuries
I ain't just talking about the Magic team T-Mac was on. I'm also talking about the Rockets. Even better team that T-Mac had and still couldn't get out of the 1st round.
okay first, don't lie....kobe is averaging 23.2 shots this season. Second, its his highest in about 7 years. It happens when you change coaches and systems as dramatically as the lakers have. Second, bigs to bail him out? clearly you have never the lakers play...w/o a perimeter threat in kobe, only pau would succeed....shaq has sayed a million times kobe was the best player he has ever played with. That being said, tmac was good in his "prime" of 2-3 years...
also, just so you know, tmac had a great team with the rockets and even orlando. He just isn't a winner. He never made it past the first round. Don't give me the crap about how his "supporting cast" wasn't as good. He had pau and artest, two all stars at that point. I love tmac but even he would admit that between him and kobe, it's no contest in kobe's favor. It's no coincidence that tmac is like 220 in ppg today
what's your point tho? Tmac was ill. but that was then this is now, dude is no where near kobe. never had the drive, motivation or heart to carry the team, all about carrying himself. Iverson at least brought his team to the finals.
the simple fact is that people like you make shit up. Kobe has never averaged ANYWHERE near 27 shots on his team. He leads his team in assists and has done so for 5 years. He never had bynum in the 09/10 finals....just pau. Kobe lasted longer than tmac because of his work ethic and his ability to adjust his game. I watch tmac today and he is just a jump shooter. No post game, etc. kobe's prime was about 8 years. tmac's was like 2 years...it's no contest.
@mattnimp not true at all, kobe has cemented himself as one of the greatest of all time with his personal accolades as well as team accolades- Tracy Mcgrady in Houston was very determined alongside with Yao Ming to win a ring but unfortunetly both him and yao were consistently hobbled with injuries, Tracy's overall potential was stunted due to severe injuries that have made him a average NBA player at this stage of his career determination and drive had nothing to do with it
@mattnimp Nooooo! If he had 100% health then thats who we'd be talking about! Kobe can't touch a healthy T-mac. No drive and determination? Your'e are talking about the wrong player there buddy.
No mcgrady wasn't better then kobe, mcgrady had yao and Ron artest(in the prime) something similar to what kobe was always surrounded by not to mention(good team mates)..Tracy was a slasher of a shooting guard, I may add if he wouldn't of got injured he would have been holding shit down getting good players around him to win a ring.
No We Wouldn't....Cause Kobe Knees Been Fucked Up Since Bout 2009....& He Was Planning To Retire Last Year Until He Found Out Bout That "Innovative" Surgery Procedure Overseas...Haha...Vince's Knees Would Be More Suitable...
@ballin7077 yao ming shane battier,rafer alston,grant hill,juwan howard,not to mention what he couldeve done in toronto with vince if the raps werent so stupid to trade him.
@mattnimp I understand that this was 9 months ago but I CANNOT get over how idiotic of a comment this is....that's like saying if harold miner was good, he would be the next MJ.
how many playoff series were either/both yao and tmac injured?? Kings series was rigged, Shaq won all 3 mvp awards when they won together, and of course la WOULD get all-star gasol for srub kwame
If T'mac was allowed to hoist u 27 shots a game he would be able to put up Kobe's numbers. Kobe is almost 42% on the season. He just has bigs to bail him out as always. Tmac IMO was superior due to his consistency on the season in his prime. I would have taken him with a prime Center like Shaq because Tmac would pass the ball.
42% THIS SEASON..Don't Act Like He Been Shooting That Shih His Whole Career...Haha..T-MAC'S HIGHEST SINGLE SEASON FG% IN HIS WHOLE CAREER PERIOD Is Pretty Much The Same As KOBE'S AVERAGE FOR HIS WHOLE CAREER....So U Just Told A Lie To The Fullest Bout Him Being More Consistent...& U Also Told Another When U Said If T-Mac Was Allowed When The Fact Is That In His Prime..He Shot Just As Much As Kobe, Mane...Haha
You're not fully a Hawks fan if you didn't know who Shareef Abdur-Rahim was.
Darth Wooser jason terry theo ratlif & dan dickau
Darth Wooser
Sure ..... But why be a Hawk fan ?
Pulse RELOADED The Hawks are still in the NBA?
@LionsAllday DETROIT lol agreed
Darth Wooser i do know that player but I'm not a Hawks fan
Before there was a Dwight Howard with the Orlando Magic, there was a Juwan Howard.
Jackson reminds me a lot of spreewell game. A tough, hard nose, emotional player, but just a knot or two shy of the top players in the nba.
Tracy Mcgrady with the Magic better than Kevin Durant with OKC
A_gwyn96 stop it. McGrady never made an all defensive squad. Nowhere near kobe
Kevgslo84 Yet he busted Kobe's ass comsistently! Ask Kobe who's the toughest, he ever had to guard & he'll tell u it's TMAC! U better do ur research!
afrikan08 What a prick comment lol!! But its funny as hell
afrikan08 Durant is def not better then Tmac lls just taller
A_gwyn96 crack head
T-MAC had my homie on ice skates @ 5:56 SMH😂😂
i read a lot of articles where teammates and coaches have said T-Mac was really lazy , came to practice late, and did not condition his body.
good lord if tmac hill and duncan teamed up like they said they would have, they could of been champions 4 times. tmac is still on my top 5
I am sorry, I like Stephen too.
but tmac vs Stephen? where is Stephen in the whole video?lol
richard tran Jackson..
Stephen Jackson
Kobe gave any & everybody that work! & Stephen Jackson was a real good defender, but it was nothing you could do wit Tmac back then.. 🤷
Man I miss Tmac on the Magic was so fun to watch was a relentless scorer
I'm here from the podcast
I remember those Gooden three's lmao
I went to this. It was one of the few wins for the Magic that year. What a sad year.
sweetest stroke ive ever known
thanks for the video
Ninth man to have back to back scoring titles in nba history.how could he not be nba 75 🤷
Nice quality, BMACPOLAND! Great upload!
hell yeah man in his Magic/Rockets days = UNSTOPPABLE i'd take him over LeBron
RadioactiveRahSNG so you would pick a injury prone players vs a players that never get injured
ocho cinco 👍💯
@diplomat65 and u see jason terry on the hawks?
I don't even like to talk trash about T-Mac. I feel that he was a great player that simply had mediocre talent around him. Still I loved watching T-Mac play. Even today, when he comes off the bench, I still enjoy watching him play.
yea he was the truth, ashamed what injuries do to the talented... i was just watching that Bo Jackson 30 for 30 thinking bout all the dudes whose career ended do to injuries
I dont remember steve jackson with atl. was he their best player then?
i agree if T-Macs knees were still good we would still be talking about him he was amazing!
whos that at 2.07?
i found myself not caring about the fight and jus enjoying the game
I ain't just talking about the Magic team T-Mac was on. I'm also talking about the Rockets. Even better team that T-Mac had and still couldn't get out of the 1st round.
Man, imagine if McGrady wasn't traded. Hill, Howard, and McGrady on the same roster. The Magic are just cursed.
FonchCakes the magic are a bad organization.
if t-mac had lebron knees he would be beast
If TMac practiced and kept his back in shape, he would still be putting up numbers. feel bad for his back tho
5:40 Zaza learning from the best
He's really come on as fanboy since then.
he would be better than kobe if he wasnt injury prone his whole career, he wasnt 2 time scoring champ for no reason
where does it say fight?
@BMACPOLAND1 lol i got his autograph in orlando and i was so disappointed it was his instead of Tracy's..it was either him or Steven Hunter : (
It had nothing to do with drive, Kobe had better teams and was less injury prone
I wish I had T-mac's agent. 20+ mill a season at one stage and never made it out of the first round!
must've been that notorious crawford-game =)
@mattnimp that's not true bc Kobe would still have his drive and determination.
I miss how he could dunk like that. 6:32
U just cant guard T-mac man cmon hes ridicolous
okay first, don't lie....kobe is averaging 23.2 shots this season. Second, its his highest in about 7 years. It happens when you change coaches and systems as dramatically as the lakers have. Second, bigs to bail him out? clearly you have never the lakers play...w/o a perimeter threat in kobe, only pau would succeed....shaq has sayed a million times kobe was the best player he has ever played with. That being said, tmac was good in his "prime" of 2-3 years...
What's with Tracy and Jacksons.?
good times, back when if anyone with a tiny bit of skill joined the hawks they would automatically become the star player
also, just so you know, tmac had a great team with the rockets and even orlando. He just isn't a winner. He never made it past the first round. Don't give me the crap about how his "supporting cast" wasn't as good. He had pau and artest, two all stars at that point. I love tmac but even he would admit that between him and kobe, it's no contest in kobe's favor. It's no coincidence that tmac is like 220 in ppg today
@mattnimp thats dumb. thats like implying kobe would have gotten worse
what's your point tho? Tmac was ill. but that was then this is now, dude is no where near kobe. never had the drive, motivation or heart to carry the team, all about carrying himself. Iverson at least brought his team to the finals.
T-Mac in his prime was unstoppable kobe couldn't touch him
CallMeuTeee cut it out
@mattnimp i dont think so
the simple fact is that people like you make shit up. Kobe has never averaged ANYWHERE near 27 shots on his team. He leads his team in assists and has done so for 5 years. He never had bynum in the 09/10 finals....just pau. Kobe lasted longer than tmac because of his work ethic and his ability to adjust his game. I watch tmac today and he is just a jump shooter. No post game, etc. kobe's prime was about 8 years. tmac's was like 2 years...it's no contest.
@mattnimp not true at all, kobe has cemented himself as one of the greatest of all time with his personal accolades as well as team accolades- Tracy Mcgrady in Houston was very determined alongside with Yao Ming to win a ring but unfortunetly both him and yao were consistently hobbled with injuries, Tracy's overall potential was stunted due to severe injuries that have made him a average NBA player at this stage of his career determination and drive had nothing to do with it
Jackson should have known better than that
@mattnimp Nooooo! If he had 100% health then thats who we'd be talking about! Kobe can't touch a healthy T-mac. No drive and determination? Your'e are talking about the wrong player there buddy.
They should've kept T-Mac imagine if he was on that 2010 Magic team they would of beat the Lakers
2009-10*
Aw shit you were right
Deondre Jackson They wouldn't have been able to afford Dwight, Rashard Lewis and Hedo if they still had Tmac. #fact
+Deondre Jackson They would've still lost. Tmac was hurt that year when the Rockets got past the first round and pretty much done.
no they would of lost to the Lakers just like they did
No mcgrady wasn't better then kobe, mcgrady had yao and Ron artest(in the prime) something similar to what kobe was always surrounded by not to mention(good team mates)..Tracy was a slasher of a shooting guard, I may add if he wouldn't of got injured he would have been holding shit down getting good players around him to win a ring.
you mean if McGrady had knees.
Nevermind any of you guys, San Antonio baby. Nuff said
No We Wouldn't....Cause Kobe Knees Been Fucked Up Since Bout 2009....& He Was Planning To Retire Last Year Until He Found Out Bout That "Innovative" Surgery Procedure Overseas...Haha...Vince's Knees Would Be More Suitable...
put kobe on that Magic team and see how many rings let alone playoff games they win
greekmonstervt91 The same as T-Mac. Lol
@ballin7077 yao ming shane battier,rafer alston,grant hill,juwan howard,not to mention what he couldeve done in toronto with vince if the raps werent so stupid to trade him.
Mccgrady was more complete than lobe just fell to injuries
Truth
+Malik Crawford Who's lobe???
nahhhh no
He actually was more complete than Kobe.
+LilPrince Killa fuck no kobe own tmac
holy shit its joel pryzbilla
Who here from All the Smoke 😂
@mattnimp I understand that this was 9 months ago but I CANNOT get over how idiotic of a comment this is....that's like saying if harold miner was good, he would be the next MJ.
how many playoff series were either/both yao and tmac injured??
Kings series was rigged, Shaq won all 3 mvp awards when they won together, and of course la WOULD get all-star gasol for srub kwame
Jackson had like two highligts 😒
@mattnimp
i fuckin loved tmac, but he wasnt even a good defender.
thats half of the game.
ALL THE SMOKE
T-Mac couldn't lead a team out of hte 1st round of the playoffs.
@mattnimp been injured bro
@TheFilipinoBoxer duncan won 4 nba championships without a guy like t mac
@mattnimp more like if he didnt get all those injuries =/
@mattnimp his health is terrible not determination lol
@mattnimp lol are you serious? Kobe is a legend.
but he didnt, so live with it.
kobes knees are really fucked up lol
look at that girl scream at 6:53
Oooo, that's true, just VS
@panagios
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@diplomat65 Yep and guess what? He sucked too those days ;) Just kidding, the truth is he's been making SOME progress. His English is the same tho :)
@gikib0i c'mon are you serious?
and back
@mattnimp i like tmac better anyways
the ref is a woman?
If T'mac was allowed to hoist u 27 shots a game he would be able to put up Kobe's numbers. Kobe is almost 42% on the season. He just has bigs to bail him out as always. Tmac IMO was superior due to his consistency on the season in his prime. I would have taken him with a prime Center like Shaq because Tmac would pass the ball.
@diplomat65 fuck yea foo
real shit.
You are crazy
yesss nash ! pfff hahaha
upn lol
where is the fucking fight?
42% THIS SEASON..Don't Act Like He Been Shooting That Shih His Whole Career...Haha..T-MAC'S HIGHEST SINGLE SEASON FG% IN HIS WHOLE CAREER PERIOD Is Pretty Much The Same As KOBE'S AVERAGE FOR HIS WHOLE CAREER....So U Just Told A Lie To The Fullest Bout Him Being More Consistent...& U Also Told Another When U Said If T-Mac Was Allowed When The Fact Is That In His Prime..He Shot Just As Much As Kobe, Mane...Haha