@@findfefito a lot of ppl listen to b sides 💀 she sang amazingly in every song but especially in eleven (title) , i am (title) , holy moly, heroine, royal, my satisfaction, wave (title) , hypnosis, mine, off the record (title) either way (title)
Ik but were just saying that liz slayed and she did. And your right. The other members slayed aswell but people complimenting liz is fine- Help why am I replying to a 4 month old comment
@@x_jd7361so what he can go and experience all the hard ships and let's see how good this guy will come back as , bet still won't be as good as them but that's y'all's opinions and that's my opinion so I really like that I can share my opinion and y'all can share yours
Well some did train for few years tho wonyoung and yujin trained for like a year or so before going into produce 48 to be in izone. They did well here so idk why some are talking about them not being able to hit notes in their comfortable range
Liz sings the best in the group ive.Besides, Yujin also did very well.I feel like they are making progress in improving their singing.They're getting better and better at singing but they probably would have continued to sing as well if they didn't do the dancing.Their voices are good but not enough to be able to sing 100% of the song live.I think they should make the dance moves as light and simple as possible to ensure the authenticity of the vocals.
I think, after watching this a billion times, they were a bit nervous in the beginning and it showed in their voices a little. They soon got going and hit those notes so well. Its nice to hear them sing like this.
@@taufiktaufik8574 then why did wony, leeseo, gaeul did decent during this encore? dont act as if you know everything abt ive, you dont even know who jiwon is.
They seems to be singing live, they are not a strong vocal group, you can note that in the encore. In order to be able to sing they stoped to move and concentrated in singing, they did great, I would say they slayed it because they actually singed the whole song by themselves, an acomplishment I doubt most groups of this last generetion can.
It looked kinda impromptu, so they may not have prepared to sing live for this show. They can sing, no doubt, just seemed like they weren't prepared for it. If you guys watch the other I AM video where they were having fun and taking turns to sing to one mic, they sang pretty clean there.
0:45 the soloists have weak voices, but together they are very good singers... they need more practice and I think they will never need autotune again. They have potential
What you must consider is the pitch of this song is too high, and impossible for a normal person to sing comfortably. I am a soprano in my choir, but still have trouble with this. I don't think it was a good choice by the producers. They sing very well for a song this high pitched.
I am studying operatic singing at the conservatory and i am a lirico-leggero soprano (i also studied pop and jazz during high school). Even if i love this song and sing it almost daily even though i shouldn't (since my teacher would kill me if she knew) it is very straining for some reasons: 1) all the chorus that gets repeated rotates around the 5th octave (so that is WHO i am, the who is G5/SOL5, usually sopranos in pop have the cambio di registro in A5/LA5, Bb/Sib5 or even B5/Si5 so G/Sol can be uncomfortable to sing). Also the chorus spans from E4/Mi4 to G5/Sol5 aka 1 octave and a (minor) third... It's not that "high" but you kinda have to jump all over the place lol 2) the "that's my" part that come before the chorus... is high. G6/Sol6 (that's) and Gb6/Solb6 (my). High. Very much so. 3) The first part sung by Wonyoung reaches E3 in the "mhmhmh". WHICH IS LOW. If we count only the "난 나의 길로" it's still pretty low being a Gb3/Solb3 (길로). 4) Yujin's high note is not that high compared to the "that's my" being an E4/Mi4 part BUT it is BELTED and with belting you have to have a good sostegno or your voice is going to be shaky or, worse, break. 5) The song as a WHOLE as the estensione of 3 octaves and a minor 3rd (if we count the mhmhmh part, or of you don't want to count it it's still 3 full octaves). TLDR/Final Thoughts: The song is difficult and can be even more complex to sing depending on different factors (such as singer's estensione, if you sing it solo or w someone else, technique etcetc). IMHO the girls have done a great job this comeback. Even without Rei. In most stages you could definitely hear their voices loud and clear, with (mostly) precision in intonation. They were also very much stable. Not all the girls are on the same level singing. For example Gaeul can't be compared to Liz or Yujin. But she's a rapper and a dancer so singing shouldn't what we look for the most imho. In this stage (was it the first I Am win?) the girls were clearly hesitant to sing (especially wonnie and leeseo cuz if all the hate they got) but i still think they did a great job! All this to say i agree with the original commenter. ps: sorry for the long comment but i really needed to get this out hahaha
@@themerchant7494Not everyone can have the same singing ability, technique or experience. The song is still hard, especially if one person sings it alone (for the reasons i stated in my previous comment). I shouldn't really comment on pop songs because it has been a while since i really studied pop but even if i have now very different knowledge engrained in my head (w opera and stuff), i don't think they did a bad job especially with this song. Do some of them have to work on their vocals? Yes, but honestly we all do :/ Even world renowned opera singers still went to their teachers to get their voice checked up once in a while! So yeah, that's just my thought, sorry to come out out of the blue w this but as i said i needed to get this off my chest hehe
I have a degree in voice and am a voice teacher. I don't understand why they don't just pitch their songs a couple keys lower. It would change nothing about the song and they would sound so much more comfortable/stronger singing it. It has nothing to do with training - it's where it sits in the voice. If you have a lower register, this is high to be belting...like, they can hit the notes of course, but not always with full voice.
IVE Standing on Business! Microphones on please! They sound great! This is not an easy song, is starts very low and gets very high. Great work. I would love to see another group cover this live.
you know ik fans hate it when you compare groups but like I'm just so proud of leeso having the confidence to sing even with her voice cracking as compared to a sakura in lsfm (she's even said that she'd prefer getting less lines because she's not great at singing) but I can't help but say its literally her job, she could do more intensive vocal training to at least sound in tune live even if her voice cracks but girl just doesn't try
She is paid a small fortune for sing, not only for her pretty face. Are you a fan? I know I am not but I can acknowledge they must be abble to sing their parts while standing.
These days, the trend for 4th generation girl groups is to sing in a safe way that doesn't use high notes, but because Ive sings songs that use too high notes, she is underrated in live performances. Liz will be the top if she joins another girl group.
You 2 bone heads are what is wrong with kpop these days, unnecessary hate to these girls. They can't sing/ or they can doesn't mean hate them, just wish they improve. 💀 ppl these days
This a hard song to sing to be honest and they did a really good job. Liz and Yujin really slayed the high notes. Wony's vocals is very underrated tbh. Leeseo surprisingly is very stable. Rei is not here but I have no doubts on her abilities since she's very stable. I think gaeul needs to be more confident.
i'm actually very proud of them for taking the criticism they got for their vocals and improving. do they sound great? not really, no. but they can sing their honestly overly challenging song without too many issues and sound decent and that's good!
@@siddhartharya1750 actually the company do hold them back and even some idols said that sometimes we don't hv control if we can lipsynch or sing live bc of the audio system in the back and stfu haven't u seen her produce 48 days she can sing live so go and get ur shitty personality elsewhere
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Liz needs more songs that makes her vocals shine like this
truee and yujin
they have a lot of songs where their vocals shine tho
@@sherllymisseshim Are they in the room with us? title-wise, they don't have it. and who listens to b-sides as much as titles, right?
@@findfefito a lot of ppl listen to b sides 💀 she sang amazingly in every song but especially in eleven (title) , i am (title) , holy moly, heroine, royal, my satisfaction, wave (title) , hypnosis, mine, off the record (title) either way (title)
@@findfefitoif you dont wanna listen to the bsides then you have no say in this
Liz's part soooo satisfying to hear, i need more liz part on the other song please..
why do people act like it’s a crime to compliment the rest of the groups vocals, Liz sounds great and so does the rest of the group
Ik but were just saying that liz slayed and she did. And your right. The other members slayed aswell but people complimenting liz is fine-
Help why am I replying to a 4 month old comment
😂
It’s not a crime. Just they’re really terrible singers. That’s it.
@@bobbyzee1686 cmon bob, don’t ruin it for the other bobby’s
i love liz's vocals sm:)
I honestly didn't think they could live sing this like the recording, but they hit all those high notes. Well done ladies. Only recently found them
yk sometimes it’s not about the high notes. They are not even stable even it’s not even in high notes.
@@wanangelina5257wdym??!? Can u sing like them??! Can u hit the high notes like them ??! Hehe nope 🤪
@@x_jd7361so what he can go and experience all the hard ships and let's see how good this guy will come back as , bet still won't be as good as them but that's y'all's opinions and that's my opinion so I really like that I can share my opinion and y'all can share yours
Well they're performers and trained for years so people expect them to be good atleast. Not even average lols@@rolexoutpeace
Well some did train for few years tho wonyoung and yujin trained for like a year or so before going into produce 48 to be in izone. They did well here so idk why some are talking about them not being able to hit notes in their comfortable range
i love leeseo's voice omg
Liz sings the best in the group ive.Besides, Yujin also did very well.I feel like they are making progress in improving their singing.They're getting better and better at singing but they probably would have continued to sing as well if they didn't do the dancing.Their voices are good but not enough to be able to sing 100% of the song live.I think they should make the dance moves as light and simple as possible to ensure the authenticity of the vocals.
I mean their dances allow for vocals, they are able to do both fine in their I AM live stages.
I think, after watching this a billion times, they were a bit nervous in the beginning and it showed in their voices a little. They soon got going and hit those notes so well. Its nice to hear them sing like this.
Liz backup vocal in Gaeul’s rap part 🤩🤩🤩
it was yujin
I swear Yujin looked so disappointed at her high note at the end, like girl you did great 🔥🔥😭
Fr😭
At 0:38 you can hear Yujin practicing “that’s my” in the background lol
LOLL I HEARD THAT
I dont understand why their getting so much hate.. That was a pretty decent encore live performance!!
Amazing for actual lipsync encores. I am glad they keep improving.
r u deaf
Without liz they could never pull up the vocals
@@taufiktaufik8574 then why did wony, leeseo, gaeul did decent during this encore? dont act as if you know everything abt ive, you dont even know who jiwon is.
@@kikiiyuu you mad because liz is the only good vocalist? Deal with it
me: hyping myself up for liz's part at the end
the vid: *cuts off* 💀💀
Intentionally 💀
Dude- me too- seriously I was so mad!
I was waiting for liz part
a group of consisting VOCALS, VISUALS AND DANCERS and stage presence is good thgh
People hate on wonyoung for
for some reason but she’s probably the 3rd best singer out of the group easy
5th
watching this then watching lesserafims encore wow at least i’ve can sing goodness
@@suzumi111 lesserafim have nothing to do w this so idk why ur bringing them in
@@Imsanabae because this group can actually sing live
@@suzumi111 no one really asked so keep ur opinion to urself
Why did they cut Liz part off at the end😢.....I was looking forward to it🥺
Liz so good
I love Liz's adlib so much 1:27
Wonyoung sounds so goood at the end!!! So clear and stable and her tone is so nice
YUJIN CARA, VOCÊ É A MAIORAL!!!
It's so hard to sing like this without warmup, but they did so well, I'm so impressed by them all.
They're insanely good what
They are very good and all of them held their own especially liz and yujin super proud of them
despite them not being able to hear themselves they sang pretty good
Os vocais delas são perfeitooooos, virei fã ❤
I am so surprised about Lesseo’s voice, she did her job better than before😮
Liz deserve to be more popular she's so talented plus pretty
Omg! Ive is perfect! 👑😍
Ive is extremely talented but I don't know why they barely had any motivation because I know for a fact they slay whenever they're actually trying.
They seems to be singing live, they are not a strong vocal group, you can note that in the encore.
In order to be able to sing they stoped to move and concentrated in singing, they did great, I would say they slayed it because they actually singed the whole song by themselves, an acomplishment I doubt most groups of this last generetion can.
I don't know but they sang well for me KSJSBKDJDS 💗💖💖
Wonyoung has very strong vocals, they should give her more lines
fr. i wonder why people said she can’t sing?
@@kyrsten777yeah her vocals were heaven in eleven
@@kyrsten777frrr
Liz is the best
LIZ 😍😍😍
Good job Lesseo❤
It looked kinda impromptu, so they may not have prepared to sing live for this show. They can sing, no doubt, just seemed like they weren't prepared for it. If you guys watch the other I AM video where they were having fun and taking turns to sing to one mic, they sang pretty clean there.
literal, fue improvisado y no calentaron, la otra ni aviso ni nada, solo empezo su parte facil y seguia modelando
@@odo8808 honestly js shut up. this was a good encore, no need to hate on the idols. they arent just pretty faces!
???? Basta, no se a quien te refieres con modelando, cállate@@odo8808
They all sounded great fr… their best era imo 🤍
LLLLIIIIIIIIZZZZZZZ she is the best of besteeees i love her
Wow this is probably one of the best encore stages I’ve watched. Great job. 😊
1:59 slay.
Liz's back vocal (i think so) is absolutely amazing!!
0:45 the soloists have weak voices, but together they are very good singers... they need more practice and I think they will never need autotune again. They have potential
Lizzzzzzzz vocals❤❤❤❤
What you must consider is the pitch of this song is too high, and impossible for a normal person to sing comfortably. I am a soprano in my choir, but still have trouble with this. I don't think it was a good choice by the producers. They sing very well for a song this high pitched.
LOL no. Go to america, africa or philippines, you'll be surprised.
I am studying operatic singing at the conservatory and i am a lirico-leggero soprano (i also studied pop and jazz during high school). Even if i love this song and sing it almost daily even though i shouldn't (since my teacher would kill me if she knew) it is very straining for some reasons: 1) all the chorus that gets repeated rotates around the 5th octave (so that is WHO i am, the who is G5/SOL5, usually sopranos in pop have the cambio di registro in A5/LA5, Bb/Sib5 or even B5/Si5 so G/Sol can be uncomfortable to sing). Also the chorus spans from E4/Mi4 to G5/Sol5 aka 1 octave and a (minor) third... It's not that "high" but you kinda have to jump all over the place lol 2) the "that's my" part that come before the chorus... is high. G6/Sol6 (that's) and Gb6/Solb6 (my). High. Very much so. 3) The first part sung by Wonyoung reaches E3 in the "mhmhmh". WHICH IS LOW. If we count only the "난 나의 길로" it's still pretty low being a Gb3/Solb3 (길로). 4) Yujin's high note is not that high compared to the "that's my" being an E4/Mi4 part BUT it is BELTED and with belting you have to have a good sostegno or your voice is going to be shaky or, worse, break. 5) The song as a WHOLE as the estensione of 3 octaves and a minor 3rd (if we count the mhmhmh part, or of you don't want to count it it's still 3 full octaves).
TLDR/Final Thoughts: The song is difficult and can be even more complex to sing depending on different factors (such as singer's estensione, if you sing it solo or w someone else, technique etcetc). IMHO the girls have done a great job this comeback. Even without Rei. In most stages you could definitely hear their voices loud and clear, with (mostly) precision in intonation. They were also very much stable. Not all the girls are on the same level singing. For example Gaeul can't be compared to Liz or Yujin. But she's a rapper and a dancer so singing shouldn't what we look for the most imho. In this stage (was it the first I Am win?) the girls were clearly hesitant to sing (especially wonnie and leeseo cuz if all the hate they got) but i still think they did a great job! All this to say i agree with the original commenter.
ps: sorry for the long comment but i really needed to get this out hahaha
@@themerchant7494Not everyone can have the same singing ability, technique or experience. The song is still hard, especially if one person sings it alone (for the reasons i stated in my previous comment). I shouldn't really comment on pop songs because it has been a while since i really studied pop but even if i have now very different knowledge engrained in my head (w opera and stuff), i don't think they did a bad job especially with this song. Do some of them have to work on their vocals? Yes, but honestly we all do :/ Even world renowned opera singers still went to their teachers to get their voice checked up once in a while! So yeah, that's just my thought, sorry to come out out of the blue w this but as i said i needed to get this off my chest hehe
Yes but they are idol not ordinary person. Singing their OWN song is their job.
I have a degree in voice and am a voice teacher. I don't understand why they don't just pitch their songs a couple keys lower. It would change nothing about the song and they would sound so much more comfortable/stronger singing it. It has nothing to do with training - it's where it sits in the voice. If you have a lower register, this is high to be belting...like, they can hit the notes of course, but not always with full voice.
omg leesseo ❤️❤️
oh my god ATE
리즈 노래 넘 잘한다
So good
As always, Starship has the best Singers. Mention SISTAR 👏
And specially: HYOLYN
IVE Standing on Business! Microphones on please!
They sound great! This is not an easy song, is starts very low and gets very high. Great work. I would love to see another group cover this live.
Liz❤❤❤❤
you know ik fans hate it when you compare groups but like I'm just so proud of leeso having the confidence to sing even with her voice cracking as compared to a sakura in lsfm (she's even said that she'd prefer getting less lines because she's not great at singing) but I can't help but say its literally her job, she could do more intensive vocal training to at least sound in tune live even if her voice cracks but girl just doesn't try
wonyoung and leeseo are great
They can sing ❤❤❤❤
They're bit nervous but they're bit good too..
이서 잘하는데💛!!
Wait leeseo can sing so well??
She is paid a small fortune for sing, not only for her pretty face. Are you a fan? I know I am not but I can acknowledge they must be abble to sing their parts while standing.
Um actually she has really underrated vocal. I went to their concert and her live local during their “woman like me” performance amazed me
Liz and Yujin's vocals are no joke, bro.
Yujin and Liz are SLAYYYYING
this song is so high omy, they slayed
This is so good
Leeseo❤
These days, the trend for 4th generation girl groups is to sing in a safe way that doesn't use high notes, but because Ive sings songs that use too high notes, she is underrated in live performances. Liz will be the top if she joins another girl group.
This song must be pretty hard to sing. It's already impressive to perform it this well live.
Yunjin, Leeseo and Liz put their whole core into this and they even have potential to improve a lot more
It's Yujin 💀
YOU DID NOT CUT OFF LIZ LIKE THAT 😭
Woah Liz ❤
WOWWW
2:04 wow it was way better now😯😮
Like really I’m not joking
IVE is really improving their vocals.
Лиз очень красиво поёт❤❤
leesseo did well🔥
Ive’s so addicting 😅
Wonyoung ❤❤❤
Omg !!!
They did encore better than le sserafim..
true this is really good those girls can’t sing 😂
You 2 bone heads are what is wrong with kpop these days, unnecessary hate to these girls. They can't sing/ or they can doesn't mean hate them, just wish they improve.
💀 ppl these days
They are doing well❤❤
Atleast they've tried😢😢
nice voice😍
Me encanta cuando cantan en vivo
This a hard song to sing to be honest and they did a really good job. Liz and Yujin really slayed the high notes. Wony's vocals is very underrated tbh. Leeseo surprisingly is very stable. Rei is not here but I have no doubts on her abilities since she's very stable. I think gaeul needs to be more confident.
i'm actually very proud of them for taking the criticism they got for their vocals and improving. do they sound great? not really, no. but they can sing their honestly overly challenging song without too many issues and sound decent and that's good!
Leeseo was stable❤❤❤
WHO SAYS WONY CAN'T SING
SHE CAN SING FOR A FACT AND JUST STARSHIP DOESN'T REALLY GIVES THEM THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SING LIVE MUCH 😁
Ikrrrrr ppl are just dumb
Partió muy desafinada
Blame everything on the company 😂
Everyone know she is a weak singer 😂
Why would a company hold you back if you are talented.
@@siddhartharya1750 actually the company do hold them back and even some idols said that sometimes we don't hv control if we can lipsynch or sing live bc of the audio system in the back and stfu haven't u seen her produce 48 days she can sing live so go and get ur shitty personality elsewhere
@@siddhartharya1750 go watch her recent live perfomance, she already improved her vocals from the pass.
they’ll never make me hate you ive
Liz voice makes me wondering 🔥
A bit insecure at tje beginning, but in the general.. they really hit that.
I hope they get to the top and stay there a while.
I was looking forward to liz’s part at the end but they cut the part out😢
Whoaaaaaa ive is cool!!
This song is very high but they manage to hit those notes.....daebakkk🫶
This will shut all haters mouth ✨
3. Jenerasyona neden daha çok değer verdiğimi tekrar anlıyorum.
Liz and Leeseo >>
Tão fofas🥰
Gueul has stable vocals❤
they can sing live even it’s not perfect
Liz is so damn good
The "I Am" vocals at home:
Wonyoung voice ❤❤❤
Wonyoung is improving.. lol ❤❤
even encores have positions !!??
Even sleeping has one I think 😂
Good one😂
why is that such a shocking thing to u?
kpop stans truly live in a different reality with their faves...because this is shockingly bad. I can't believe everyone in here calling it good