as an actual certified italian, the hand gesture roughly means "the fuck" as in "the fuck you want", "the fuck did you just say" or "the fuck are you doing" it can be used alone or in conjunction with the previous spoken phrases (in italian, obviously)
One time when some solicitors were annoying me on the street and following me, I got so mad that I did that gesture naturally while yelling to leave me alone. I'm not Italian and I dont even think I was influenced by Italians, it came out of nowhere
@@k1logr4m51 for sure. i'm super curious for gigi, cecilia and liz as well. i can imagine gigi having bae energy, but liz and cc i have no idea yet.that's exciting
Italians are really an entertaining bunch. My friend's boyfriend is Italian and we went for dinner one time to a Malay restaurant. At one point, he got up and started walking around the table making "mmph mmph mmph" sounds, while moving the pinched hand gesture up and down. We all thought he didn't like the food but apparently Italians do that when food is really delicious
No, we absolutely don't use it to say that something is delicious 😂😂 Is your boyfriend really Italian? Or he is one of those Americans who got a dog that once belonged to an Italian so they can now claim to be Italian?
In Argentina that gesture is also use to say "What do you want?" "What happen?" or simply "What?" but sometimes you can use that gesture to taunt someone
The hand gesture can and will genuinely make you feel like an idiot if used against you. My great grandfather used to do it to me as a kid and not say a word just look at me and hit me with the the gesture and i should shut up
0:15 Once upon a time, my friends and I were playing WoW and, having come from EQ2, I lamented that there wasn't crafting specializations as a class. I didn't want to fight, I just wanted to make money and craft items. Like Raora, I mentioned to them that I wanted to make carpets, curtains, furniture, etc and grow flowers that I had picked... and everyone said I was gay. I wish my friends were girls because they are seemingly more supportive of those sorts of things.
When you get older your friends will start to appreciate your type of playstyle. Coming back to a stylish and well organized base when you have a full inventory is a pretty good feeling when you empty it in their appropriate locations.
Brother you just need more open minded friends. If a survival game has any option of base building and customization leave me the fuck alone i will be the designer/architect/builder/decorator you all can go do survival stuff
How curious, in Mexico (don't know if other Latin-American countries have it too)we have the same hand gesture 🤌 but instead of "what you want?" It's our "Wanna eat something?"
also in italy that gesture, in a specific way can mean "Wanna eat something?" btw that 🤌 is not so used... generally only in south and only in the past
"Fatti aiutare" is a better translation for "Get some help" than "Chiedi aiuto", if anyone is interested on the correct one. We sometimes use stuff like "Hai bisogno di uno bravo" which roughly translates to "You need the care of someone good" hinting a psychiatrist.
Apparently this goes way back to Romans. Roman orators have their own set of hand gestures. As someone who hates screaming from afar, I find this very intriguing
My only regret is that you didn't show Raora's chat. She literally has an emote, that she drew herself, of chattini doing that and they were SPAMMING it during the whole conversation lol
I feel Boromir in the image for One Does Not Simply Walk Into Mordor meme makes quite a decent demonstration of what 🤌 kind of means. Pointed in a different direction but I think the emotion is in the same ballpark.
_Italian taxi driver gets out of car, starts shouting while waving hands wildly_ _Other Italian driver gets out of car, starts shouting back_ _At this point I'm genuinely worried they might break out into a fist fight_ _Taxi driver gets back in car_ "Is everything alright?" "Oh yeah, that guy was really nice, we're gonna get drinks later"
Raora: I move my hands all the time. As expected. Also, I'm very much in agreement with Bijou and Raora. Style is important. But, I'm also with Ela. You grind the fancy stuff so no decoration is off limits.
The Italian hand gesture hits on the same level as the Filipino "lip pointing". Tbh... I feel like the Italian gesture is more polite because (how Roara explained it...) it's used in reference to questions. Whereas the lip point is supposed to be like a non-offensive command tool other than pointing your finger at someone/something. Lol 🤭
I am not Italian so this is purely outside perspective, It generally seems to be as Raora said when asking a question or when frustrated about trying to get to bottom of something, or to "get to the point". So for me the gesture is almost a very literal attempt to "grasp the situation". I don't know, my brain looks at stuff in a weird way so I could be entirely wrong.
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Her 3D debut won't be complete until she does the gesture. It only makes sense.
Raora will summon pizza using her jutsu hand signals
Imagine if she gets a jetpack in her 3D debut
Bring to her some pineapple pizza and break the pasta infront of her and maybe u gonna get that hand gesture
mamma mia, gigi that's a notta how yiu holda a piiistol.
You don't have to have that in the script, my guy. It will occur naturally. :P
Just let her talk to Biboo or Cecilia.
Works like a charm.
as an actual certified italian, the hand gesture roughly means "the fuck" as in "the fuck you want", "the fuck did you just say" or "the fuck are you doing" it can be used alone or in conjunction with the previous spoken phrases (in italian, obviously)
One time when some solicitors were annoying me on the street and following me, I got so mad that I did that gesture naturally while yelling to leave me alone. I'm not Italian and I dont even think I was influenced by Italians, it came out of nowhere
So in this case, Raora is basically saying "the fuck you want?" In this clip
@@ConflictedM1nd it's not necessarly as vulgar as the f word but essentially yes
So... it's basically a gesture expressing frustration
That makes the fact that her parents will just bust it out all the time without saying anything at all even more hilarious. 🤣
I can absolutely imagine Raora gesturing as she’s explaining
Biboo asking very important and crucial thing.
i can't wait for her 3d, just to se her arms going crazy
One of the most awaited 3d debuts in Hololive's history, for me at least.
@@k1logr4m51 for sure. i'm super curious for gigi, cecilia and liz as well. i can imagine gigi having bae energy, but liz and cc i have no idea yet.that's exciting
omg that would be so cutee
Kaela slams open the doors and gesticulates to everyone "we're Italian now".
Faq I imagined it!!!
Of course, Kaela will speedrun efficient communication
Embrace Grunts and Growls! Return to MONKEY!
speedran laughter already. get some help needs a gesture too
Italians are really an entertaining bunch. My friend's boyfriend is Italian and we went for dinner one time to a Malay restaurant. At one point, he got up and started walking around the table making "mmph mmph mmph" sounds, while moving the pinched hand gesture up and down. We all thought he didn't like the food but apparently Italians do that when food is really delicious
It can also mean "fking amazing/delicious" depending on context I found
No, we absolutely don't use it to say that something is delicious 😂😂
Is your boyfriend really Italian? Or he is one of those Americans who got a dog that once belonged to an Italian so they can now claim to be Italian?
@@sleepylion9788 No it doesn't
That "Hayyaaaaa" 0:52 came from the soul
Uncle Roger is so proud of Niece Kaela. It almost makes up for Niece Zeta cooking.
Uncle Chan is also proud. Maybe now he'll teach her Chi spells
1:30 I like the way Raora says this
Soft motherly vibes
In Argentina that gesture is also use to say "What do you want?" "What happen?" or simply "What?" but sometimes you can use that gesture to taunt someone
Awe, biboo’s adorable.
“I don’t care about that(decoration) stuff, so I’m fine.”
I don’t know, Kaela. That seems rather strange coming from the Gamer Goddess XD
I remember when Biboo explain how's Raora's gesture when "Say Hello" to Chattini, thats so cute 😻
Of course the unsleeping blacksmith is commenting only on the efficiency.
She's a true blooded Italian, she does the hand thing. 😂
The biboo way
MAMMA MIA, MARCELLO
🤌🤌That's not how-a you hold a pistol!🤌🤌
Biboo asking the real questions
I did not see coming that Raora would be completely unaffected by Kaela's GSH
That's actually convenient
Fr I wanna adopt it, but middle eastern family wouldn't have it😂 u gotta talk
kaela and efficiency lmao
The hand gesture can and will genuinely make you feel like an idiot if used against you. My great grandfather used to do it to me as a kid and not say a word just look at me and hit me with the the gesture and i should shut up
0:15 Once upon a time, my friends and I were playing WoW and, having come from EQ2, I lamented that there wasn't crafting specializations as a class. I didn't want to fight, I just wanted to make money and craft items.
Like Raora, I mentioned to them that I wanted to make carpets, curtains, furniture, etc and grow flowers that I had picked... and everyone said I was gay.
I wish my friends were girls because they are seemingly more supportive of those sorts of things.
Sorry to hear that. I hope you have better and more understanding friends now.
When you get older your friends will start to appreciate your type of playstyle. Coming back to a stylish and well organized base when you have a full inventory is a pretty good feeling when you empty it in their appropriate locations.
I mean
That's pretty gay
You're playing WoW after all
Brother you just need more open minded friends. If a survival game has any option of base building and customization leave me the fuck alone i will be the designer/architect/builder/decorator you all can go do survival stuff
You were playing the wrong game. In craft heavy MMOs like lineage 2 everyone would have loved you
How curious, in Mexico (don't know if other Latin-American countries have it too)we have the same hand gesture 🤌 but instead of "what you want?" It's our "Wanna eat something?"
@@ElZabi In some part of Italy is the same!
also in italy that gesture, in a specific way can mean "Wanna eat something?"
btw that 🤌 is not so used... generally only in south and only in the past
@@Kirby635 do you do the gesture close to your mouth too?
@@ElZabi Yes, but like Mauro said, today is not so used!
In Argentina that gesture means what you want? Or what did you mean or what's wrong? It can mean different things depending on context
MARCELLO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
"Chiedi aiuto!"🤌🏻
" Fatti aiutare!"🤌🏻
" Cosa vuoi?" It's "What do you want"🤌🏻🤌🏻
oh Madonna mia
Chiedi aiuto ,Kaela: No GSH
cute raora italian hand gesture fluency!
Very efficient
Of course Kaela will be the one who thinks about efficiency
Communicating with hand gestures means you save your voice for streaming/singing. I think everyone in Hololive should 🤌🫰👋
... 90 percent of the time they can't see each other's hands, though.:)
1:45
Quite funny indeed, as I can practically see her doing the thing during this LMAO
1:30 Yeah i wonder this all the time, dang it! Biboo knew her pebbles so well !
1:31 Lol she sounds like such a mom here
"Fatti aiutare" is a better translation for "Get some help" than "Chiedi aiuto", if anyone is interested on the correct one. We sometimes use stuff like "Hai bisogno di uno bravo" which roughly translates to "You need the care of someone good" hinting a psychiatrist.
This actually brings up a good opportunity to say GSH in different languages.
Italians like Spanish and other Latin people tend to gesture a lot. I myself can't talk, or even think what I'm going to write without gesturing 😅
Her 3D must have good finger motion capture. She must be able to do this with her fingers and other Italian gestures.
Apparently this goes way back to Romans. Roman orators have their own set of hand gestures. As someone who hates screaming from afar, I find this very intriguing
The hand thing 😏
My only regret is that you didn't show Raora's chat. She literally has an emote, that she drew herself, of chattini doing that and they were SPAMMING it during the whole conversation lol
Based and Kaela are synonyms
Kaela is that person who knows how to say hi and bye in 30 languages, but GSH instead
I've seen that a lot in serie A when the player protest against the referee 😂
Man i wish some day they find out about Ultima Online. Because then its really over, its limitless and its amazing.
Now imagine a pack of stalking panthers communicating silently eith paw gestures. Not so cute any more, is it?
Kaela always looking to min-max.
Ah Kaela has discovered the wonders of sign language lmao
request COVER to give Raora her ouchi 3D with complex hand gestures for the 🤌
After this, Kaela will be like
: Haiya, GSH. Dahlah 🤌
I do the hand thing when im stress
Sus 👀
I feel Boromir in the image for One Does Not Simply Walk Into Mordor meme makes quite a decent demonstration of what 🤌 kind of means. Pointed in a different direction but I think the emotion is in the same ballpark.
Kaela would adopt the gesture lol
I'm looking forward to the 3d model
here in Paraguay we sometimes use that gesture in the same way, it fits when you ask something too, it's like a question gesture
Kaela:Ill do that all the time.
As if the silent laugh is not enough 😂
It's a must to check if there a veins popping whenever someone does the gesture. 😂
_Italian taxi driver gets out of car, starts shouting while waving hands wildly_
_Other Italian driver gets out of car, starts shouting back_
_At this point I'm genuinely worried they might break out into a fist fight_
_Taxi driver gets back in car_
"Is everything alright?"
"Oh yeah, that guy was really nice, we're gonna get drinks later"
Raora is way more ,,real,, in this clip.
Kaela's "haiyah" reminds me of Uncle Roger's haiyah
now that i think about it
we do use that gestire in my country too with the same meaning
And so, Kaela in her pursuit of efficiency became a mute that only communicated in sign language.
I think indo also have a same hand gesture but we direct the pince finger to mouth suggesting the people get eat soon.
Hololive-IT MUST BECOME A THING! FORZA ITALIA!!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Raora: I move my hands all the time.
As expected.
Also, I'm very much in agreement with Bijou and Raora. Style is important. But, I'm also with Ela. You grind the fancy stuff so no decoration is off limits.
Ah, to me I thought that gesture meant “I cook-a da pizza”
The Italian language is 40% speech and 60% gesticulation.
"Roara, are you still doing that hand thing?"
"Ahur ahur ahur ahur"
"Psh psh psh psh psh psh"
They need to give that to raora.
Biboo: "do you actually do the hand thing"?
Hand thing people: "What hand thing you talking about? 🤌"
hilariously possible
here in argentina it means the same thing, i use that gesture a lot since i was litltle
I guess we do somethings similar then but we bulge our eyes.
Now I'm very curious about what that gesture looks like with the paw 🐾
Thanks Biboo!
Keala did the hayyya thing lol
Same Kaela same.
"ChieDi aiuto"
Thats like asking an Italian if they breathe.
Adorable
Italians do move their hands a lot when talking but i think the hand thing can be seen often by older Italian people
The Italian hand gesture hits on the same level as the Filipino "lip pointing". Tbh... I feel like the Italian gesture is more polite because (how Roara explained it...) it's used in reference to questions. Whereas the lip point is supposed to be like a non-offensive command tool other than pointing your finger at someone/something. Lol 🤭
What was Raora thinking the first time ? Hmmmmmmmm 🤔 hand thing when stressed
cultural exchange at its finest
mamma mia marcello
I am italian.. and yes. Can confirm
Get this girl 3d stat, we need to see
The nordic mind can't comprenhend the mediterranean expressiveness.
Although Kaela and Biboo say "Chieri aiuto", Raora says the correct spelling which is "Chiedi aiuto", with the d.
I think an italian man invented that gesture when in rage asked an italian woman what she want.
and it's used in that manner to this day
By the way, it's "Chiedi aiuto", not Chieri.
However, Biboo's "Fatti aiutare" is the most common way to say the "get some help" line
Haiyaaa
Fun fact: If you handcuff an Italian and put boxing gloves on their hands, they will stop talking.
so many mistakes and misconceptions, but i know it's normal and it's okay to make fun of italians
Every region in Italy has its own gestures. Many Hispanic countries have their gestures too.
Doing the hand thing when stressed? 😳
where does it come from? ya ever seen the painting "the last supper"? already been around back then :P ~
It's not "Chieri" by the way but "Chiedi"
Its same with Lindu india , shake their head while talking , like worm
I am not Italian so this is purely outside perspective, It generally seems to be as Raora said when asking a question or when frustrated about trying to get to bottom of something, or to "get to the point". So for me the gesture is almost a very literal attempt to "grasp the situation". I don't know, my brain looks at stuff in a weird way so I could be entirely wrong.
You actually got it right.
But it's used in very informal situations because it's quite a rude gesture not something that a polite person would use.