I think saying Saitama was holding back on Rover is kind of an outliar, he didn't try to kill him, but the shockwave shows how strong the punch was, everybody felt it and was surprised by it, Orochi even says the force was abnormal, so I don't think many dragons could take that punch from Saitama and simply sleep for a little bit like Rover
It'd be interesting to see how King's powers would get him around a confrontation with Orochi. He'd probably turn all the monsters that make up Orochi against one another or something funny like that
@@uwantdamoney1643 Boros has better energy sensing abilities than that but that discussion of Boros vs king came down to Boros attempting to rationalize the lack of energy he's sensing and the king engine playing louder in the background as a sign that King is simply in a completely different league from him, Like Dangai Ichigo to Aizen who also couldn't sense Ichigo's power XD XD It would happen, its the only possible outcome for the story of OPM.
Gouketsu for sure. Genos fought Carnage Kabuto in both actual combat and in the virtual simulation. When he fought Goketsu he said he's the strongest monster he's faced which scales above CK. And Genos thought that even Saitama would need assistance from other S class heroes to fight Goketsu and he saw Saitama one shot Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto
I wonder how strong Phoenix Man could of became? I mean what is the limit to his resurrection. Could he just keep resurrecting eventually becoming as strong as Boros?
I assume inciniration would have prevented him from ressurecting. And being eatten too. But yeah, after a few ressurections he would have become impossible to beat in any other way
Nova Rising Geryuganshoop could probably stomp her if you think about it. I mean, he can throw rocks at lightspeed, so he could just catch her off guard and one shot her like that. He also has his gravity attack which would probably immobilize her.
@@jbeksubk8350 I dont see it as he can throw rocks fast but not at lightspeed and his gravity was only enough to dent some steel but not even completely compact it. She has feats that compare her to tatsumaki and all of the other main villain order putting her at mid to high dragon while I would probably put g(ain't gonna try to spell it) at straight up mid dragon.
@@michaelcarney4220 One stated that Geryuganshoop can throw rocks at sub lightspeed with his telechanisis.... Its in the damn data book as well dont disprove a feat without even researching about it..
@@Josephthedream The difference between sub lightspeed and lightspeed is IMMENSE. As in relatively easy to straight up impossible. Don't jump on the guy for being rightfully skeptical.
@@michaelcarney4220 That 'steel' was able to withstand a bombardment capable destroying an entire city and remain flying even after Saitama destroyed most of the ship
Peonix man had 4 transformation Low Dragon, Mid Dragon, High Dragon and Above Dragon(Absorbed brave gians blast) and his above dragon lvl is featless cuz he ripped his own suit and lost all the power.
@@theblaze2294 Murata did some redraws of the phoenix man vs child emperor fight, I think it's the only fight that has been redrawn twice. I'm still a bit confused which one is canon.
@@Diddydeedongbut then if he becomes too strong no one can kill him so he will be stuck on that power level and it would probably take over 100,000 deaths to eve reach quarter of saitamas power
This might be the first time we disagree. Phoenix man is on Cadre level for sure. He probably has higher damage output and resistance then Gums, Nyan, Homeless Emperor and Nyan. He is also more versatile then any of them. Probably best support member of monster asociation. It takes smart and prepared character to deal with him. And here is a question for you. Which MA members could survive Emperor Nova Blast? Keep up the good work bro ;)
I hope Orochi comes back from death and faces SClass. Then laughs at how weak most are. He felt the True Terror when he faced saitama. But that ain't going to happen sadly lol.
@@ahmagebishoor7675 Its not true. This guy follows me and everyone else to marvel death battles,and claims Saitama,a mortal that's plantery at best can beat highly omnipotent,reality warping,entites. So he's obviously a troll.
Homeless Emperor is strong, his full power itself is continental level-attack. Not to mention that his energy balls is stronger than Vaccine Man's energy balls.
kbjs30 dog vs dog. As much as I like Watchdog Man, even though he's absurdly fast and strong, I think Overgrown Rover would win. The thing literally shoots gigantic plasma balls that could level big portions of a city at the speed of a mini-gun. Also, insane durability. Survived a punch from Saitama, and that's saying something.
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy Saitama clearly held back his punch on Rover according to his own statement. It wasn't even a "normal" punch. It was for chastising, not killing. We don't have enough information on Watchdog man to determine his abilities. But this fight would certainly shed some light on that.
Good point, but Nyan is fast as shit as well as nimble. Could they really hit him? They would have to transform to be able to defeat him, but they'd have to work together. But perhaps they are that much faster? Drive knight could keep up with Nyan pretty well, and Flashy Flash is A LOT faster than Drive. But I don't know.
@@carljohansson1087 well ofc in transformed form in base they need to work together but in transformed state they are faar faster than nyan so i don't think they will need each others help
@@goldplayer5102 I agree. Only one who was the exception not being a cadre was Phoenix man due to zenkai ability. But the ninjas never showed this zenkai capacity like Garou or Phoenix man.
I don’t understand gum’s power,pig god easily ate a monster as big as or even bigger than him but still couldn’t beat him,so it’s not about size,why is he a dragon?
he has strength, durbaility and speed of a dragon level monster. That's the difference between gums and other monster that pig god has encountered. Not only that but Gums for his size, he has sneak ability where he could eat his opponent without they realizing his presence like pig god and genos
Renyx Ghoul & God Slayer come on now Pig God is a beast, he just straight up fucking eats monsters twenty times his size without breaking a sweat. it’s a funny but terrifying power
Funniest thing in the manga so far is when king scared a monster shape shifter so bad he accidentally killed himself while transforming. There's that and then there's the one where silver fang and his brother Bomb beat the demon dog into submission and now it listens to them. Lol.
Psykos from the manga is definitely high above dragon or even low God. She merged with Orochi but her power amp was due to God giving her a boost. She sliced the seas like it was butter lol... granted going off of the webcomic, she may seem lacking
Not true Tats was able to overpower her, if she was that strong tats would be god and she just isn’t Yes that feat is op, but black S can flood the planet with trillions of himself and yet he isn’t a god level being Feat of god doesn’t equal god level being Which is why boros, who can destroy earth, is officially listed as “Dragon”
@@PeachDragon_ no wtf, a single (1) black sperm is in no way dragon, not even wolf, he himself claimes that "at this size even dog could kill me", where did you get the idea they are low dragons?
It would be easy to argue Black Sperm is potentially god-level. If he split himself into his 11 trillion selves, and assuming a similarly sized world population as on Earth, then there'd be over 1000 of him for every one of us. The only question is how much strength does a single cell have, which is possibly not much.
I got the theory that when you eat a monster Cell then you turn two levels higher for example from low to high,from mid to above and from high Demon to Low Dragon,that would mean that the two Ninjas were high Demons in their Human forms and turned into low Dragons in when they eated the cells.That way we also know that Gouketsu was a low Dragon in his Human Form and many more things.What do you think?Do you agree because two levels higher just make sense for me,if Suiryu took a Cell(he is in my opinion an above Demon)he would be a mid Dragon.
I agree. I think suiryu is borderline low dragon, so he would be a really strong mid dragon, which lines up with what gouketsu said, who seemed to be somewhat of a in-universe power level expert, along with gyoro gyoro of course. I also think this is more or less exactly how much phoenixman gets stronger each ressurection. From demon to low dragon to high dragon.
@@godspeedkillua6798 I think Rover and Nyan didn't eat monster cells,they just became Monsters because of negative feelings or the desire to change into someone else like Crabalante did,but i am not sure about that
@@x-bandix-bandi3149 your right for Nyan is confirmed and Rover was probably orochis dog, but Orochi became a monster so since dogs have a feeling for their owners they change too and Rover became a monster
Imagine if saitama fought Phoenix man . He would probably hold back saying "your just some guy in a costume" which he has done before but I wont reveal when. Imagine just what Phoenix man would be like after coming back from that
@@jirivrana9562 that's a bullshit excuse Saitama is not the most powerful character in fiction, plus there are beings who can literally erase Saitama from existence and if he was omnipotent he wouldn't have had to go serious to deflect a star destroying attack
Jacktheripper2000 pro gamer not really, I.e. If Saitama wasn’t fighting boros and Boros did that roaring canon, Saitama wouldn’t know and entire humanity can be done for
@@jasperjao6476 Golden Sperm is getting a redraw. He will probably be presented stronger than Orochi. And from the looks of things now (Golden Sperm effortlessly defeating Vomited Fuhrer Ugly and Darkshine), I think Golden Sperm will definitely be stronger than Orochi.
@@itzpayday1238 Low Above Dragon: Peak Pre Woke Garou Golden S Orochi Ninja Village Leader Mid Above Dragon: Psykorochi FP Tatsumaki Released Boros Non Abandonment Awakened Garou High Above Dragon: Meteoric Burst Boros and Abandonment Awakened Garou Low God level: CSRC Boros
Hold on Gyoro Gyoro is mid dragon. I changed mind it's high dragon. Psykos is definitely high dragon probably one of the strongest high dragons. Psykos is the most powerful dragon level threat. Fubuki noted how much power Tatsumaki was using against her as Gyoro Gyoro.
Yep, Awakened Cockroach is still placed this low despite the fact he toyed with a Genos even stronger than the one that easily obliterated everybody's precious "above-demon" Deep Sea King
@@mamak339 I think this dude was being sarcastic, he didn't really mean that. Notice how there are quotation. He just mentions how absurd it is that these people think deep sea king is above demon or EVEN low dragon.
I dont think those ninjas were mid dragons. Maybe as a team but not individually. There is a good reason why Murata didn't add them as part of executives. Besides child emperor badically one shotted the resurrected forms of ninjas sooo
@Victor Estrella Im pretty sure there are a lot of other S-class heroes who could defeat them like Child emperor, Drive Knight, Metal knight, Watchdogman, darkshine etc
Essentially to get a better understanding of what Orochi's full power is, just ask What is Above Dragon? I know he probably isn't God level threat but if Dragon is multiple cities then maybe Above Dragon is something like at least half of the Earth or close.
Saitama was just treating overgrown rover like a dog, as phrased by him he just tried to make him "SIT" and put enough force for that more or less to probably just put him down, after all serious punches were more than enough for like of elder centipede and boros who are wayy above overgrown rover for sure.
Hey Zhonin what do you think of the OPM dub? Season 2’s first episode just aired and I’ve always been a fan of the first season (really love the choice for Lord Boros, who was also Esidisi in Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure) and I’m anxious to hear Greg Chun’s Garou in action.
I would put Psykos confidently in high dragon, let me explain myself: Getting beat by Fubuki after she exhausted herself against Tatsumaki and Bang isn't really a huge loss in my opinion, if you consider the variables of the fight, especially since she stopped using her head and just relied on a sheer exchange of esper powers because Fubuki drove her mad with Fubuki being able to only compete because she had the direct counter in this circumstance. Her feats of disabling Tatsumaki, holding down Abandonment Bang, catching and imprisoning Evil Natural Water and creating Orochi and the MA are all consistently high dragon tier feats, not to mention that unlike most characters Psykos gathers information about her enemies and uses substitions to fight which gives her a massive advantage in combat. Also Fubuki is kinda underrated aswell since she was able to defend against attacks from cadres like Overgrown Rover and in the next arc even Tatsumaki compliments Fubuki on her growth in power.
Yeah if we take the scene where gyoro gyoro said if you wanna be leader you must beat orochi but then boros busts through the wall like the kool aid man then goes up to orochi and rapes him telling him to serve him and boros takes the mantle of king
Yep Regardless of the debate it was stated that golden S and Orochi are Stated to Be Equal in Raw Power. But i would say Orochi is Superior because it was stated in the interview that Orochi has better fighting technique
Its clear you didnt watch the video lol. This is a list of monster asociation's monsters not all monster . Do you see boros there or maybe beefcake? No? Thats beacause this is not a list of all monsters.
Boros would be like tier -1 lol. He would instagib anyone on this list. He and awakened Garou are both probably tied for the absolute strongest villains
Phoenix man should be tier one. Any other hero would have not known how to defeat it if not for child emperor remembering him from the show. Then he would’ve just went on to revive all the dead monsters and conquer all
@@yennox5338 As per Yennox's comment, implying Metal Knight and Drive Knight probably have a good chance as defeating Phoenix Man too. However, he should be very highly ranked.
So am I correct in assuming you don't consider Choze a member of the Monster Association? I consider him more powerful than Awakened Cockroach, and possibly the strongest Demon in the series.
The Octopus, Deep sea king are stronger than him surely and they are above demon for me. Yeah Choze is no joke for sure but i don't think that he can beat Octopus a whatever he calls
@@zyxyx6754 Expert fighter, extremely fast(had a DBZ fight with Suiryu where onlookers couldn't even see them) and powerful energy projection. Suiryu is definitely S-Class. Saying he barely classifies as a Demon is a colossal exaggeration of underplaying his capabilities. Rating Choze high based on what we got is just as valid as rating Gouketsu so high among Dragons based on what we got. I am not interested in a debate btw, so I won't be replying again. That's just what I think.
imagine if it gets monsterized later. I'm really hoping this is eventually becomes a plot point mosquito has mad reflexes. not even bald saitama could touch him.
imo elder centipede is really underrated, people say: hes not that strong, hes just big. BUT that is what makes him so strong. I think he would definetly win against all executives except for enw and golden s. i say that because im pretty sure that regular black s couldnt put a dent in him and rover definetly isnt smart enough to try to go inside him and do what genos did. also im 100% certain that goketsu would lose because ec shrugged off the combined attack from bang and bomb, which was definetly stronger than anything he can produce.
Nah don't think gouketsu would loose at ALL. First off elder centipede wouldn't even be able to land a HIT on gouketsu,as he's far to fast. Two your wrong about gouketsus power,I pretty damn sure a cloud splitt'n,city shaki'n rock solid punch from gouketsu could put Elder cenipede down,for good.
@@morganz3694 doesnt matter if he cant hit him, im pretty sure ec couldnt hit sonic either, but in a cage fight sonic would still lose eventually. gouketsu could probably crack ec's shell, but as weve seen that doesnt really do much. and there is no way that gouketsu is stronger than bang and bomb combined
@@ThereforeIAmHim So what if Elder cenipede has insane regen,and that super hard shell. Gouketsus smart and will AIM for elders head,and put him down with a single punch.
@@morganz3694 except that there is NO way that gouketsu can one-punch ec. he took that all out beating from metal bat with EASE and he also didnt really mind the cross fang dragon slayer fist to his face.
@@shreeek1235 to defeat Unfair beinggs u have to become an Unfair being yourself he is just s bigget step i have to climb but in the end i will overcome him
@@LordOfChaos.x you got your ass beaten by a furry I really don't think you stand a chance against a man who easily deflected an attack that was going to destroy the planet
We the readers speculate currently that g5 is drive knight, and if true know that he couldn't have used his full blackbox transformation last he give up his identity to both parties involved. In what we saw from the latest chapter these almost instantaneous transformations allow huge versatility for drive knight and I feel g5 having to stay disguised and in character will not result to using these for the sake of information gathering on the monster association. This is I think the main setback on g5's lower rating. To say a full tier lower from high dragon to high demon seems excessive maybe but I think some are sleeping on drive knights instantaneous transformations for versatilities sake in various matchups
Wth why are gale wind and hellfire flame mid dragon? They are clearly low dragon... like definition of low dragon. Bakuzan, wind/flame, and redrawn version of Phoenix man are low dragon.
There is absolutely *no* reason why Phoenix Man shouldn't be in Tier 1. Your reasoning was basically "his feats are phenomenal, but he's too weak"... *what?* Completely illogical.
I think phoenix man is highdragon like orichi have ability of regeneration can ressurrect dead himself and others no one can defeat him only by removing his cistume
All I imagine is orochi grabbing elder centipede by the tail and using him as a whip
Same. Orochi stomps Elder centipede.
Haha holy shit
Now that would truly cause collateral damage worthy of an above dragon-level monster
It would take like 5 seconds for the whip to fully extend itself cause of how long elder centipede is
z' dice Jesus why did you ducking put that in my head😂
I think saying Saitama was holding back on Rover is kind of an outliar, he didn't try to kill him, but the shockwave shows how strong the punch was, everybody felt it and was surprised by it, Orochi even says the force was abnormal, so I don't think many dragons could take that punch from Saitama and simply sleep for a little bit like Rover
I would never hit rover cause even tho he’s like 30 feet tall he’s still cute
Bro where I can get webcomic....
@@wiankaymusic2096 any manga reading website has it I recon
Losing to Fubuki is not an anti-feat for Psykos, it is a feat for Fubuki.
It can be considered both.
@@KNullHypothesis It wasn't hax, it was technique.
@@KNullHypothesis I know this is a year old but we've seen at least 2, 3 if you count gyro gyro.
@@KNullHypothesis Saitama's been using hax since ep 1
@@SmoovyNovaFan Saitama’s outfit is able to withstand powerful forces because it’s probably PLOT ARMOR confirmed!
It'd be interesting to see how King's powers would get him around a confrontation with Orochi. He'd probably turn all the monsters that make up Orochi against one another or something funny like that
Na King wouldn't work against orochi since orochi can sense someone's power like what he did wait saitama
king works against everyone
@@uwantdamoney1643 I agree
@@uwantdamoney1643 Boros has better energy sensing abilities than that but that discussion of Boros vs king came down to Boros attempting to rationalize the lack of energy he's sensing and the king engine playing louder in the background as a sign that King is simply in a completely different league from him, Like Dangai Ichigo to Aizen who also couldn't sense Ichigo's power XD XD
It would happen, its the only possible outcome for the story of OPM.
Uwantdamoney kings power would be so low he can’t sense anything but orochi would think kings power is so high that he can’t even fathom it
Bruh imagine if Hot Dog Man was there, rip heroes
His power is beyond anything we have seen
S̶A̶M̶U̶R̶A̶1̶ They best *RELISH* their final moments before death. Hell, I don’t even think they’d be able to *MUSTARD* up the courage!
Penguinz0 reference?
Jiri Vrana hotdog man would eviscerate that b-class fraud
Jiri Vrana we’re talking about hotdog man. And bald cape is wolf level brah
I would love to see a fight between Carnage Kabuto against Gouketsu
Would be a great match up but I would go with Gouketsu due his martial arts prowess
@@carrotdtop_1 carnage kabuto instincts
@@carrotdtop_1 @onepunchmanfandom on instagram has that fight
Gouketsu soundly beats carnage kabouto. Kabouto couldn't even one shot low demon genos,when goketsu one shotted a much stronger version of him.
Gouketsu for sure. Genos fought Carnage Kabuto in both actual combat and in the virtual simulation. When he fought Goketsu he said he's the strongest monster he's faced which scales above CK. And Genos thought that even Saitama would need assistance from other S class heroes to fight Goketsu and he saw Saitama one shot Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto
I wonder how strong Phoenix Man could of became? I mean what is the limit to his resurrection. Could he just keep resurrecting eventually becoming as strong as Boros?
Totally man, while he don't take off the phoenix costume.
He probably could,but maurata took it another route for obvious reasons.
Phoenix man was damn scary. Then he was defeated by a tickling robot.
@@arkova112 I swear if he had fought ANY other hero. 😂
I assume inciniration would have prevented him from ressurecting. And being eatten too. But yeah, after a few ressurections he would have become impossible to beat in any other way
im still amazed that a twenty minute video feels like an hour
“Psykos is probably the second strongest esper we’ve seen so far” what about Geryuganshoop?
Nova Rising Geryuganshoop could probably stomp her if you think about it. I mean, he can throw rocks at lightspeed, so he could just catch her off guard and one shot her like that. He also has his gravity attack which would probably immobilize her.
@@jbeksubk8350 I dont see it as he can throw rocks fast but not at lightspeed and his gravity was only enough to dent some steel but not even completely compact it. She has feats that compare her to tatsumaki and all of the other main villain order putting her at mid to high dragon while I would probably put g(ain't gonna try to spell it) at straight up mid dragon.
@@michaelcarney4220 One stated that Geryuganshoop can throw rocks at sub lightspeed with his telechanisis.... Its in the damn data book as well dont disprove a feat without even researching about it..
@@Josephthedream The difference between sub lightspeed and lightspeed is IMMENSE. As in relatively easy to straight up impossible. Don't jump on the guy for being rightfully skeptical.
@@michaelcarney4220 That 'steel' was able to withstand a bombardment capable destroying an entire city and remain flying even after Saitama destroyed most of the ship
Peonix man had 4 transformation
Low Dragon, Mid Dragon, High Dragon and Above Dragon(Absorbed brave gians blast) and his above dragon lvl is featless cuz he ripped his own suit and lost all the power.
that's the webcomic right? And he was demon in base form
@@theblaze2294
Nope.
@@theblaze2294 Murata did some redraws of the phoenix man vs child emperor fight, I think it's the only fight that has been redrawn twice. I'm still a bit confused which one is canon.
Phoenix Man has the greatest potential. He is the most dangerous monster ever (and he is technically only a human).
Yeah it’s insane like imagine if he dies like a million times he is going to have the eyes of the gods on steroids
@@Diddydeedongbut then if he becomes too strong no one can kill him so he will be stuck on that power level and it would probably take over 100,000 deaths to eve reach quarter of saitamas power
@@kriskat3438 nope, more like 100.000 sextillion death, saitama have no limit to his power
@@kriskat3438 unless he is killed by saitama
@@mythrandir8118 saitama broke his limiter, which doesn’t mean he has limitless power
I’m surprised he mentioned King as one of the heroes who could potentially stop Orochi. I guess King certainly does have some special abilities 😄
Has King ever lost? 🤔😎
Hector Andem LoL good point x)
King is strong
Meta luck
Legends say
King is super strong, he can spawn Saitama
Golden _NUT_
lmao
1:03
@@antegen598 lmao
@@yung2real256 Hahahahaha
Imagine if mosquitoes were part of the MA.
It would have been an slaughter
A billion god level monsters
Huh? they were in the first season... where Saitama met Genos lol. Don't pay attention smh
That was already done...season 1
@@Great_America they are talking about the Mosquito saitama was trying to kill, lol
This might be the first time we disagree. Phoenix man is on Cadre level for sure. He probably has higher damage output and resistance then Gums, Nyan, Homeless Emperor and Nyan. He is also more versatile then any of them. Probably best support member of monster asociation. It takes smart and prepared character to deal with him. And here is a question for you.
Which MA members could survive Emperor Nova Blast?
Keep up the good work bro ;)
Oh I commented too early. My bad. The list it perfect ;)
Ya said Nyan twice
@@ragingdeviant5504 ye. My bas ;)
@@ragingdeviant5504 that's cause he's twice as durable and strong as Nyan
@@simouric4906 lolll, homeless def have the damage output, but not the others
I always wished the monsters saitama punched were alive to face the s class heroes. Shame.
Same,sniff,tear Brouketsu Noooooooooooo. 😢
I hope Orochi comes back from death and faces SClass. Then laughs at how weak most are. He felt the True Terror when he faced saitama.
But that ain't going to happen sadly lol.
@@jirivrana9562 really?? That cant be true.
@@ahmagebishoor7675 Its not true. This guy follows me and everyone else to marvel death battles,and claims Saitama,a mortal that's plantery at best can beat highly omnipotent,reality warping,entites. So he's obviously a troll.
@@morganz3694 i think the problem is people cant accept that saitama is a gag character who is too op for everything.
Phoenix man is probably my favorite from the MA
He is pretty baller
Agreed
My fav is rover
I like black s
me too 2nd is Black S/ Golden S
Regarding Homeless Emperor's durability, I will point out that he survived the base flip unscathed.
🤔
Didn't King do so as well?
@@yennox5338
King is god-tier.
You are actually correct, I didn’t think about that as well as getting out with little issue and just blasting out is the smartest
He's afraid with his own blast, could be mean that his offence is better than his durability.
Homeless Emperor is strong, his full power itself is continental level-attack. Not to mention that his energy balls is stronger than Vaccine Man's energy balls.
You should black out the monsters/characters in each of the tiers until you mention them!
Good idea.
Why
@@hiska6340 stfu
@@xarmanhskafragos2516 well we found an asshole :D
@@hiska6340 because it would be a quality of life thing for these videos
Look at all these cute harmless creatures who I could flick to death
Saitama ay what’s up caped baldy
Maintain your character stupid
Saitama doesn't say shit like that
Aaaaw the Genos is talking back to his master
phase 4 meteoric super-burst Boros while wearing a tank top: C'mon, ready for round 2?
@@morax9758 genos goin off damn bruh
All I know is they all die with one punch
I wanna see Rover fight Watchdog man.
kbjs30 dog vs dog. As much as I like Watchdog Man, even though he's absurdly fast and strong, I think Overgrown Rover would win. The thing literally shoots gigantic plasma balls that could level big portions of a city at the speed of a mini-gun. Also, insane durability. Survived a punch from Saitama, and that's saying something.
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy Saitama clearly held back his punch on Rover according to his own statement. It wasn't even a "normal" punch. It was for chastising, not killing.
We don't have enough information on Watchdog man to determine his abilities. But this fight would certainly shed some light on that.
I wanted to see Watchdog Man VS Nyan but oof
@@bitto432 same 😔, IF Nyan does have 9 lives then maybe. I highly doubt it, but still....maybe.
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy watchdog man would lose
Gouketsu is tier 2, he even said that among commandant there was some stronger than him
Those being Elder Centipede, Rover, Black S, ENW, and Orochi.
@@fledged_podcast7959 who's enw
@@jamesdawsan2146 Evil Natural Water
@@fledged_podcast7959 dont forget golden sperm
@@thundaground997 yeah good catch
I think hellfire (alone) and gale (lone) would use nyan as a scarf literally
Good point, but Nyan is fast as shit as well as nimble. Could they really hit him? They would have to transform to be able to defeat him, but they'd have to work together. But perhaps they are that much faster? Drive knight could keep up with Nyan pretty well, and Flashy Flash is A LOT faster than Drive. But I don't know.
@@carljohansson1087 well ofc in transformed form in base they need to work together but in transformed state they are faar faster than nyan so i don't think they will need each others help
@@goldplayer5102 I agree. Only one who was the exception not being a cadre was Phoenix man due to zenkai ability.
But the ninjas never showed this zenkai capacity like Garou or Phoenix man.
Imagine If Mosquito was in MA, it would be a slaughter, Orochi might as well quit.
I am seriously hoping the mosquito gets monsterized later on
@@Koraxus mosquito dude, king of mosquito. Yeehehe
Awakened Cockroach reminds me of Nyan with his evasive speed and maneuverability. Nyan is definitely faster though.
Phoenix man can be the strongest dragon. This was mentioned at the end of one of the manga chapters.
He can be the strongest monster. Period. If he dies and resurrects enough.
I'd love to see Boros set loose against the Monster Association. Just to see how powerful he actually is against possible challenging foes.
He'd probably get down to a head to head with orochi, golden s and phoenix man. Can't see anyone else being able to fight evenly with boros.
I don’t understand gum’s power,pig god easily ate a monster as big as or even bigger than him but still couldn’t beat him,so it’s not about size,why is he a dragon?
he has strength, durbaility and speed of a dragon level monster. That's the difference between gums and other monster that pig god has encountered. Not only that but Gums for his size, he has sneak ability where he could eat his opponent without they realizing his presence like pig god and genos
Reagen ok thanks
Reagen I am glad to see PIg god getting defeated XD his feats seems really “lame”
Renyx Ghoul & God Slayer
come on now Pig God is a beast, he just straight up fucking eats monsters twenty times his size without breaking a sweat. it’s a funny but terrifying power
Lets wait for the so called 'Awakening " of pig god
Funniest thing in the manga so far is when king scared a monster shape shifter so bad he accidentally killed himself while transforming.
There's that and then there's the one where silver fang and his brother Bomb beat the demon dog into submission and now it listens to them. Lol.
I've always kinda hope that garou discovers orochi remains if orochi doesn't come back and becomes curious as to who could have killed him.
If Orochi does come back it’s only fitting for Golden Sperm to kill him to establish himself as the strongest Monster like in the Webcomic.
Well, he's not died indeed
@@jirivrana9562 stfu
Will all these fights be animated in the future? I can’t wait to show my great grandkids OPM Season 3 in 2072 😄
more like 12 thousands years later
I prefer teir groups over actual ranking as circumstance allow more flexability with the characters teirs
Psykos from the manga is definitely high above dragon or even low God. She merged with Orochi but her power amp was due to God giving her a boost.
She sliced the seas like it was butter lol... granted going off of the webcomic, she may seem lacking
Not true
Tats was able to overpower her, if she was that strong tats would be god and she just isn’t
Yes that feat is op, but black S can flood the planet with trillions of himself and yet he isn’t a god level being
Feat of god doesn’t equal god level being
Which is why boros, who can destroy earth, is officially listed as “Dragon”
@@GravityIsFalling didnt she literally take a part out of the Earth? How isnt that Dragon level or even low God level
@@designingwaves she got defeated by tats and tats isnt a god level threat
Saitama said he held back his hit to Overgrown Rover. He just wanted to put him in his place.
11 trillion low-dragons jumping you sounds pretty insane
but single black s can be beaten by a dog, or a child
@@karolbomba6704 a single black S is either demon or low dragon, it's shown
@@PeachDragon_ no wtf, a single (1) black sperm is in no way dragon, not even wolf, he himself claimes that "at this size even dog could kill me", where did you get the idea they are low dragons?
Karol bomba that was when he was shrunk
@@xvulcan8713 wdym 1 singular black cell is fucking small child lvl
Saitama shook the entire association with the punch he gave to overgrown rover.
It would be easy to argue Black Sperm is potentially god-level. If he split himself into his 11 trillion selves, and assuming a similarly sized world population as on Earth, then there'd be over 1000 of him for every one of us. The only question is how much strength does a single cell have, which is possibly not much.
He was left with a single cell in the webcomic and said he couldn't even beat a kid or puppy in that form
@@ghxst4510 Well 1000 of him could probably beat a kid at least?
@@hesoyam881 Yeah definitely, he has enough for world domination but his forms are weak, and couldn't pull it off with the heroes still out there
assuming he can get more nutrition to create more cells, he could be ultra op
I got the theory that when you eat a monster Cell then you turn two levels higher for example from low to high,from mid to above and from high Demon to Low Dragon,that would mean that the two Ninjas were high Demons in their Human forms and turned into low Dragons in when they eated the cells.That way we also know that Gouketsu was a low Dragon in his Human Form and many more things.What do you think?Do you agree because two levels higher just make sense for me,if Suiryu took a Cell(he is in my opinion an above Demon)he would be a mid Dragon.
I agree. I think suiryu is borderline low dragon, so he would be a really strong mid dragon, which lines up with what gouketsu said, who seemed to be somewhat of a in-universe power level expert, along with gyoro gyoro of course.
I also think this is more or less exactly how much phoenixman gets stronger each ressurection. From demon to low dragon to high dragon.
I think the increase in power can vary for exampel I think overgrown rover was just a regular dog.
@@GoldenCroc Yeah sense goketsu was already a Dragon level as a human,when he ate a monster cell it made him into an undoubtedly high Dragon.
@@godspeedkillua6798 I think Rover and Nyan didn't eat monster cells,they just became Monsters because of negative feelings or the desire to change into someone else like Crabalante did,but i am not sure about that
@@x-bandix-bandi3149 your right for Nyan is confirmed and Rover was probably orochis dog, but Orochi became a monster so since dogs have a feeling for their owners they change too and Rover became a monster
Hehehehe, King dealing with Orochi... GAH! Now I wanna see that! (And yes, I know Orochi is gone.)
Let's be honest. Knowing King's luck, he'll probably accidentally get Orochi to commit suicide.
What happened to that face reveal you said you were gonna do when your copyright strikes were up?
He said he'll face reveal at 50k or 100k subs.
Still my favorite is monster is Borus his also consider a God lv. Monster becouse his last attack can destroy earth
Watching this after reading through the manga is quite mesmerizing
"Tatsumaki, Blast and King". Nice humor you have sir.
Herihang Limbu where’s the humor?
@epileptic zepra King is god tier?
@@johngrissom1504 ye
When black s combines 50 trillion cells he becomes platinum s. He is as strong as golden s but can multiply like black s
Well it actually happened🤯 doesn’t multiply tho😔
Imagine if saitama fought Phoenix man . He would probably hold back saying "your just some guy in a costume" which he has done before but I wont reveal when. Imagine just what Phoenix man would be like after coming back from that
Nah Saitama one punch him and rip of his suit and bye bye phoenix man
@@thongbavuong5590 it would be weird because i dont think so saitama is that intelligent
Phoenix Man would eventually be a God-Level Threat and above.
next do no association tier groups for dudes like Sonic, Garou, Boros, Bomb etc
@@jirivrana9562 there's no goddamn need to bring Saitama into this
@@jirivrana9562 so you're saying Saitama is in the toilet whenever i'm taking a shit?
Vaccine man, Carnage Kabuto etc.,.,.,
@@jirivrana9562 he isn't
@@jirivrana9562 that's a bullshit excuse
Saitama is not the most powerful character in fiction, plus there are beings who can literally erase Saitama from existence
and if he was omnipotent he wouldn't have had to go serious to deflect a star destroying attack
If you look at the monster association as an individual system or monster, could you consider it threat level god?
No would have to be able to beat and kill saitama
Jacktheripper2000 pro gamer Saitama is Saitama level threat
@@muhammadbasit7644 I know but to be god it would have to be able to make humanity go extinct Saitama is part of that
Jacktheripper2000 pro gamer not really, I.e. If Saitama wasn’t fighting boros and Boros did that roaring canon, Saitama wouldn’t know and entire humanity can be done for
@@muhammadbasit7644 Saitama if he doesn't die it is not god level
I think if Genos didn’t have that sticky stuff then Awakened Cockroach would have won LMFAO.
Who is genoa ?
Probably, yeah.
Subhasish Ghosh It’s auto correct.
@@groudonfanatic9146 lol
Nah Golden Sperm webcomic version is stronger than Orochi has to be in the first place
True lol idc what murata said, after i saw what golden sperm was capable of i will never believe that orochi is stronger
@@garouopm7602 Same.
@@garouopm7602 what is golden sperm capable of?
nope... they're equal in terms of raw power bur Orochi has superior techniques.
@@jasperjao6476 Golden Sperm is getting a redraw. He will probably be presented stronger than Orochi. And from the looks of things now (Golden Sperm effortlessly defeating Vomited Fuhrer Ugly and Darkshine), I think Golden Sperm will definitely be stronger than Orochi.
Boy, 1 year later after the latest chapter, this list did not hold up. Time for an update
Would love to see an updated one of this with the new manga development
I’d love to see Orochi vs Boros
Boros stomps
I'd rather see golden Sperm vs Orochi
Boros one shots
Boros instagibs Orochi. It wouldn't even be close. Boros vs Awakened Garou would be an awesome fight though
@@itzpayday1238
Low Above Dragon: Peak Pre Woke Garou Golden S Orochi Ninja Village Leader
Mid Above Dragon: Psykorochi FP Tatsumaki Released Boros Non Abandonment Awakened Garou
High Above Dragon: Meteoric Burst Boros and Abandonment Awakened Garou
Low God level: CSRC Boros
Lord boros is actually stronger than Orochi. all we wish is that MA teams up to kill 1 guy. thats where it gets interesting.
Boros solos the entire Monster Association.
@@amortality999 dk plat s and phoenix man are gonna be a problem but if boros uses csrc then everyone's done for ( except caped baldy )
Bro phoenix man was noted by murata as the most O.P monster in the manga if he didn't rip his costume
the manga has 2 versions tho.
I wonder if his monster chick form of version 2 can eventually get stronger
Mosquito: tier -∞ (negative infinity)
Hold on Gyoro Gyoro is mid dragon. I changed mind it's high dragon. Psykos is definitely high dragon probably one of the strongest high dragons. Psykos is the most powerful dragon level threat. Fubuki noted how much power Tatsumaki was using against her as Gyoro Gyoro.
gyro gyro?
im pretty sure gyro is a greek food
@@benitomussolini7340 lol
Yep, Awakened Cockroach is still placed this low despite the fact he toyed with a Genos even stronger than the one that easily obliterated everybody's precious "above-demon" Deep Sea King
DSK is not above demon. He is at best barely high demon in wet form
@@mamak339 I think this dude was being sarcastic, he didn't really mean that. Notice how there are quotation. He just mentions how absurd it is that these people think deep sea king is above demon or EVEN low dragon.
Awakened Cockroach would destroy DSK mid diff. Idk why everyone overrates DSK so much hes a Mid Demon at best.
@@MervinKayenge they just assume he's really strong because he beat up puri puri prisoner just because puri has the S ranking
@@mamak339 idk I think he easy high demon in hydrated form
I dont think those ninjas were mid dragons. Maybe as a team but not individually. There is a good reason why Murata didn't add them as part of executives. Besides child emperor badically one shotted the resurrected forms of ninjas sooo
@Victor Estrella Im pretty sure there are a lot of other S-class heroes who could defeat them like Child emperor, Drive Knight, Metal knight, Watchdogman, darkshine etc
@@Potatoman1578 wouldn't be surprised at all if Blast could beat them
Essentially to get a better understanding of what Orochi's full power is, just ask
What is Above Dragon?
I know he probably isn't God level threat but if Dragon is multiple cities then maybe Above Dragon is something like at least half of the Earth or close.
It’s dragon and a half.
I think 25% to75% of Earth's destruction/massive casualties/depopulation. ... etc..
@@jasperjao6476 Agreed.
Saitama was just treating overgrown rover like a dog, as phrased by him he just tried to make him "SIT" and put enough force for that more or less to probably just put him down, after all serious punches were more than enough for like of elder centipede and boros who are wayy above overgrown rover for sure.
What if boros eat a monster cell?? And in his monster fase he transform???
It might not work for story telling reasons
The monster cell probably has no effect cause it was super weak
i was about to ask about platinum S, then i saw how long ago this was made
Psykos got merged with orochi? Tier -1
It gets to a point where the top monsters will be rated depending wether they can survive a punch from saitama or not
Little weird that G5 and haragiri are on the same level when haragiri was easily 1-shot
he wasnt one shotted, he was atomic sliced. G5 held on longer because atomic didnt even try
Hey Zhonin what do you think of the OPM dub? Season 2’s first episode just aired and I’ve always been a fan of the first season (really love the choice for Lord Boros, who was also Esidisi in Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure) and I’m anxious to hear Greg Chun’s Garou in action.
Where can i watch first episode dubbed???
Zhoniin : the best is golden s and orochi.....
Me : tier God is there: garou
I think geryuganshoop was the most powerful esper outside of tatsumaki, he was just unfortunate that he ran into saitama immediately.
Saitama: only thing that i see is a lot of meet moving around and being anoyng
I think guys your underestimating GOLDEN S cuz he's second strong to Orochi thats why he called Fringe Above Dragon
I would put Psykos confidently in high dragon, let me explain myself:
Getting beat by Fubuki after she exhausted herself against Tatsumaki and Bang isn't really a huge loss in my opinion, if you consider the variables of the fight, especially since she stopped using her head and just relied on a sheer exchange of esper powers because Fubuki drove her mad with Fubuki being able to only compete because she had the direct counter in this circumstance.
Her feats of disabling Tatsumaki, holding down Abandonment Bang, catching and imprisoning Evil Natural Water and creating Orochi and the MA are all consistently high dragon tier feats, not to mention that unlike most characters Psykos gathers information about her enemies and uses substitions to fight which gives her a massive advantage in combat.
Also Fubuki is kinda underrated aswell since she was able to defend against attacks from cadres like Overgrown Rover and in the next arc even Tatsumaki compliments Fubuki on her growth in power.
Good content bud, I think you’re doing a good job.
We can all agree that if Boros was apart of the MA he would be the king
Yeah if we take the scene where gyoro gyoro said if you wanna be leader you must beat orochi but then boros busts through the wall like the kool aid man then goes up to orochi and rapes him telling him to serve him and boros takes the mantle of king
Yep Regardless of the debate it was stated that golden S and Orochi are Stated to Be Equal in Raw Power.
But i would say Orochi is Superior because it was stated in the interview that Orochi has better fighting technique
Nyan is low dragon.
mid
I just realized how many high demons the monster association has
Nice vid,
But what about Bacuzan??? Wouldn't be be like low dragon ish
Its clear you didnt watch the video lol. This is a list of monster asociation's monsters not all monster . Do you see boros there or maybe beefcake? No? Thats beacause this is not a list of all monsters.
@@Igor_Kru Bakuzan ate monster cells after being recruited by the monster Association...
bruh idk why but i absolutely love Orochi as a villain, if for no other reason than hes got the best monster design ive seen in a comic/manga
He really forgot to put Boros on tier 1 at LEAST
This is just Monster Association. Boros isn't a part of the Monster Association
Boros would be like tier -1 lol. He would instagib anyone on this list. He and awakened Garou are both probably tied for the absolute strongest villains
Phoenix man should be tier one. Any other hero would have not known how to defeat it if not for child emperor remembering him from the show. Then he would’ve just went on to revive all the dead monsters and conquer all
That's based on intel, not power.
@@yennox5338
As per Yennox's comment, implying Metal Knight and Drive Knight probably have a good chance as defeating Phoenix Man too. However, he should be very highly ranked.
@@hectorandem2944 Do you think Phoenix Man can defeat Carnage Kabuto?
What about melgazard
Melzargard isn't part of the Monster Association... come on man use your brain
Melzargard was in Boros' team
The suck you dry part around the 1 minute mark is fucking hilarious 😭😭😭😭😭
So would Boros be Tier Near god?
same tier as orochi, above dragon
But Boros would rape Orochi
Dky640 Boros is a god
@@thecoolguy6636 And Gouketsu would Rape Bakuzan and Bug God would fondle Deep sea king, what is your point??????????????
@@amartinez97 He just means if Orochi is above dragon then that means Boros is above him so god level.
So am I correct in assuming you don't consider Choze a member of the Monster Association? I consider him more powerful than Awakened Cockroach, and possibly the strongest Demon in the series.
Most powerful demon...? What makes you say that when choze feats barely classify him as demon
The Octopus, Deep sea king are stronger than him surely and they are above demon for me. Yeah Choze is no joke for sure but i don't think that he can beat Octopus a whatever he calls
@@zyxyx6754 Expert fighter, extremely fast(had a DBZ fight with Suiryu where onlookers couldn't even see them) and powerful energy projection. Suiryu is definitely S-Class. Saying he barely classifies as a Demon is a colossal exaggeration of underplaying his capabilities.
Rating Choze high based on what we got is just as valid as rating Gouketsu so high among Dragons based on what we got.
I am not interested in a debate btw, so I won't be replying again. That's just what I think.
Agreed, Choze is top 5 strongest Demons in the series.
Choze is without a doubt in top 10 demons but not the strongest one
I’m just saying if that mosquito was there they’d all be steered it’s the strongest thing in one punch man
imagine if it gets monsterized later.
I'm really hoping this is eventually becomes a plot point
mosquito has mad reflexes. not even bald saitama could touch him.
@@Koraxus
And tanked 2 hits.
Your really not funny
If Gouketsu ate as much monster cells as Bakusan would he be as strong as Orochi?
Eating more monster cells won't make you stronger. it just increases your risk of dying.
imo elder centipede is really underrated, people say: hes not that strong, hes just big. BUT that is what makes him so strong. I think he would definetly win against all executives except for enw and golden s. i say that because im pretty sure that regular black s couldnt put a dent in him and rover definetly isnt smart enough to try to go inside him and do what genos did. also im 100% certain that goketsu would lose because ec shrugged off the combined attack from bang and bomb, which was definetly stronger than anything he can produce.
Nah don't think gouketsu would loose at ALL. First off elder centipede wouldn't even be able to land a HIT on gouketsu,as he's far to fast. Two your wrong about gouketsus power,I pretty damn sure a cloud splitt'n,city shaki'n rock solid punch from gouketsu could put Elder cenipede down,for good.
@@morganz3694 doesnt matter if he cant hit him, im pretty sure ec couldnt hit sonic either, but in a cage fight sonic would still lose eventually. gouketsu could probably crack ec's shell, but as weve seen that doesnt really do much. and there is no way that gouketsu is stronger than bang and bomb combined
Alex Maomao Wu I’m almost certain that would make them equal bang and bomb are old , but I’m mad we still didn’t get to see that fight play out
@@ThereforeIAmHim So what if Elder cenipede has insane regen,and that super hard shell. Gouketsus smart and will AIM for elders head,and put him down with a single punch.
@@morganz3694 except that there is NO way that gouketsu can one-punch ec. he took that all out beating from metal bat with EASE and he also didnt really mind the cross fang dragon slayer fist to his face.
Bro said Saitama was holding back with that punch when he sent shockwaves all through the entire monster association😭
those are all just some steps in my way of becoming Absolute Evil
@@shreeek1235 u will remember me as fear
@@shreeek1235 watch me kill all your favorite Heroes
@@shreeek1235 to defeat Unfair beinggs u have to become an Unfair being yourself
he is just s bigget step i have to climb
but in the end i will overcome him
@@LordOfChaos.x you got your ass beaten by a furry
I really don't think you stand a chance against a man who easily deflected an attack that was going to destroy the planet
@@LordOfChaos.x tell that to shaggy
How about Groribas? Boros’ strongest general!
This is about the Monster Association; Boros's Dark Matter Thieves are different.
Murata said that even if Melzagard, Geryuganshoop, and Groribas teamed up on Orochi, they have no chance of winning.
Shouldnt g5 be like tier 2 or one cause hes technically a high dragon in drive knight?
He put two forms of Phoenix Man in different tiers, and the same with Black S, so no.
We the readers speculate currently that g5 is drive knight, and if true know that he couldn't have used his full blackbox transformation last he give up his identity to both parties involved. In what we saw from the latest chapter these almost instantaneous transformations allow huge versatility for drive knight and I feel g5 having to stay disguised and in character will not result to using these for the sake of information gathering on the monster association. This is I think the main setback on g5's lower rating. To say a full tier lower from high dragon to high demon seems excessive maybe but I think some are sleeping on drive knights instantaneous transformations for versatilities sake in various matchups
I'd argue G5 as Above Demon tbh.
Wth why are gale wind and hellfire flame mid dragon? They are clearly low dragon... like definition of low dragon.
Bakuzan, wind/flame, and redrawn version of Phoenix man are low dragon.
There is absolutely *no* reason why Phoenix Man shouldn't be in Tier 1. Your reasoning was basically "his feats are phenomenal, but he's too weak"... *what?*
Completely illogical.
Unfortunately, he was beaten by a mid S-Class and those in Tier 1 needed Saitama to be beaten.
@@shacourbrissett9625 no way child emperor could beat gouketsu bro wtf
@@tarushdhonde9280 Why not?
@@tarushdhonde9280 he can,with prep time.
@@charlottekatakuri4872 no way. he's in a different league
I think phoenix man is highdragon like orichi have ability of regeneration can ressurrect dead himself and others no one can defeat him only by removing his cistume
Lol King can pimp slap Orochi???? I want 2 of whatever you are having.
i would've put homeless emperor and psykos as high dragon personally.
I never thought I would say I love golden sperm...
Gaaaaayyy
Same
sexually?
_Ara ara..._
Pure blood: I’ll suck you dry
Puri puri prisoner: uuououoh
Psykos is the dragon of our hearts.