In the documentary Brakhage Stan explains why in an interview. He insists that audio distracts viewer from appreciating the aesthetic qualities of the film image. But I find I can concentrate on his films better with a non-synchronized soundtrack.
because there are rhythms to images like there are rhythms to music and combining two (that were made separate) into one experience could take away from your appreciation of the visuals/music or it can better it, but that's of course going to be subjective. i dont think theres one way to experience his stuff because all interpretation is subjective anyway and music, while listening to music at the same time as watching a silent movie is definitely going to change the experience, it depends on the person whether or not its for the better
@@blakeandcamp It depends. For example, Michael Haneke doesn't use music/soundtracks for his films for the same reason as Stan Brakhage. Let's say I like to respect director's wish - if he/she created something without sound, I will watch it that way.
He sez that for the simple reason that he resonated with what he was doing and what he was doing was innovative, unless the audio HE was going to match with his visuals, was AS INNOVATIVE, there was no point. So whatever he meant is specific to him, he's already intimate with the creation of the visuals so for him it already has a cosmic resonance, the soundtrack is his frame of mind. For everyone else, I think you're nuts if you DON'T USE SOUND while watching this, Brakhage DID when he creating the stuff, remember SILENCE is the SOUND of OUR ENVIRONMENT Imagine this as narrative. I do everyday. ruclips.net/p/PLGyJ9dApKedTOM9ox3Gyhxcj6Qes3MlzW
Brakhage's association with the artist Joseph Cornell is interesting. Any biography of Cornell will provide information including the bio Utopia Parkway by Deborah Solomon page 224 -
This is a beautiful film. Some say it is "colorized". Not true. Color film was commercially available from the late 40s, in 16mm and 8mm gauges. Brakhage used both. His work was all about seeing, so sound distracts from seeing in the purest sense.
How strange that we should have these rickety metal boxes electrically bulleting through our cities. Idk, I think Pennebaker made the better ode to these lightning sardine cans though
The old 3rd Ave EL. It was completely demolished by the late 50s This is a great colorized film of that train line. Not too many color films exist of the many old elevated subway lines. By the late 50s to early 60s they was all gone. The Transit Museum online photos has a lot of all those beautiful lines before demolition began.
@@frankierivera8552 Correction. I was demolished in Manhattan during the mid 50s (1955). However The Bx spur (The hub - Gun Hill Rd ) remained as the 3rd Ave shuttle until 1973. Then it was demolished.
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Used to take this train every day. Thanks Stan for immortalizing a version of it I'll never know.
That’s weirdly wonderful
I love the interplay between transparence & opacity here.
In the documentary Brakhage Stan explains why in an interview. He insists that audio distracts viewer from appreciating the aesthetic qualities of the film image. But I find I can concentrate on his films better with a non-synchronized soundtrack.
I don't agree. Audio enhances the images on screen, it doesn't distract.
because there are rhythms to images like there are rhythms to music and combining two (that were made separate) into one experience could take away from your appreciation of the visuals/music or it can better it, but that's of course going to be subjective. i dont think theres one way to experience his stuff because all interpretation is subjective anyway and music, while listening to music at the same time as watching a silent movie is definitely going to change the experience, it depends on the person whether or not its for the better
@@blakeandcamp It depends. For example, Michael Haneke doesn't use music/soundtracks for his films for the same reason as Stan Brakhage. Let's say I like to respect director's wish - if he/she created something without sound, I will watch it that way.
He sez that for the simple reason that he resonated with what he was doing and what he was doing was innovative, unless the audio HE was going to match with his visuals, was AS INNOVATIVE, there was no point. So whatever he meant is specific to him, he's already intimate with the creation of the visuals so for him it already has a cosmic resonance, the soundtrack is his frame of mind.
For everyone else, I think you're nuts if you DON'T USE SOUND while watching this, Brakhage DID when he creating the stuff, remember SILENCE is the SOUND of OUR ENVIRONMENT
Imagine this as narrative.
I do everyday.
ruclips.net/p/PLGyJ9dApKedTOM9ox3Gyhxcj6Qes3MlzW
@paul w i might be wrong to him and to you, but not to me. art is entirely subjective and there is no uniform experience
Love the reflections.
Brakhage's association with the artist Joseph Cornell is interesting. Any biography of Cornell will provide information including the bio Utopia Parkway by Deborah Solomon page 224 -
Glimpses of New York City of the 1950s, whole city blocks now totally demolished or rebuilt. Staring down avenues of the past.
inspiring stuff
So nostalgia
I watched this sync with "the end" of the doors, I really like this way. I feel myself inside the train.
thanks for the info .
Kills it at 2:59
for real
for real for real
it's my favorite part
Important document here....
thank you raysquirrel
This is a beautiful film. Some say it is "colorized". Not true. Color film was commercially available from the late 40s, in 16mm and 8mm gauges. Brakhage used both. His work was all about seeing, so sound distracts from seeing in the purest sense.
Color Film has been commercially available since approximately 1935/36.
How strange that we should have these rickety metal boxes electrically bulleting through our cities. Idk, I think Pennebaker made the better ode to these lightning sardine cans though
Cool
This film leaves you wondering.
possible music: rhapsody #2 by gershwin
Most of Stan's work was without audio.
indeed !
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is it the J line?
3rd Ave El
ok i was wondering
any plans to put Brakhage's films on the Criterion Channel service?
Alright, cool, I appreicate the response
I mean how hard is it to reply really? There's nowhere to legally stream these.
Hey! I'm back, it's been 8 months and still no response from Criterion. The By Brakhage Anthology Blu-Ray is now out of print and we'd love some info.
@@johnhjohnhjohnh hey man they really dont owe you a response most companies don't check their youtube comments. maybe give them an email
@@johnhjohnhjohnh give up
As a synesthete I could hear sound.
Thanks. Vintage subway cars. Fedoras. Anybody know which subway line?
The old 3rd Ave EL. It was completely demolished by the late 50s
This is a great colorized film of that train line. Not too many color films exist of the many old elevated subway lines.
By the late 50s to early 60s they was all gone.
The Transit Museum online photos has a lot of all those beautiful lines before demolition began.
@@frankierivera8552 Correction. I was demolished in Manhattan during the mid 50s (1955). However The Bx spur (The hub - Gun Hill Rd ) remained as the 3rd Ave shuttle until 1973. Then it was demolished.
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blow me
dang.
i just spilled cheetos on my keys.
red.
Yo Im friends with his grandson
South Park led me here
Cannibal: The Musical?
@@dhnyl yup and the dvd commentary
No sound ?
no smell either
@@radiodiffusionfrancaise1591 And no touch
is there supposed to be no volume?
Yup. 🙂
Music and sound have destroyed film...Long Live Silent Era....
You know silent films had music, right?
@@StudioErsatz Maybe he's talking about the old Weider flexing video era lol.
@@StudioErsatz u r a Mid Wit.....
@@vladimirhorowitz U also..a MidWit........hahahaha
@@marclayne9261 Are you attempting to speak in English? Keep at it, Marc. It's a tough language, but continuous practice helps.
What the heck this isn't art.
Course it is.
-why not
“What is art?”
@ MrSchelling not this.