Just finished a bootcamp that taught the MERN stack, and to be honest… I found it overly complicated. 😅 I even considered quitting programming altogether because of how much I dislike JavaScript! But then I stumbled across PHP and Laravel thanks to a documentary, and wow-I was instantly hooked. 😍 I recently started a PHP tutorial, and it’s been a game-changer for me. I couldn’t be happier! 🎉 More bootcamps should definitely teach PHP & Laravel-it’s such a refreshing alternative!
I kinda love the status quo. One negative thing that happens in tech when everybody floods to a framework is that soon you start seeing PR's or suggestions of features that exist elsewhere: "Javascript has X, we also need to have X in Laravel".
I’ve worked mostly with C#/.NET and React/JS at work for the last few years. I recently discovered Laravel (and Rails, too) and would love to get to build more real world applications with them.
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I was asked to create a system to pull data from one API service to push to another one, they don't have a native integration. Instead of using a PHP or JavaScript backend solution, I created a whole dashboard with buttons commands and front end to show the whole data migrated on that day. And I built it in Laravel. My boss don't care about it, they only want the results, and that's good. Now I have a functional first project to add to my resume.
Thanks for the awesome video Josh, I really like your style. In case you're looking for a video idea (either for here or for Laravel channel), it would be very cool if you did a video showing how to use Volt in a more advanced project. Because I don't know if it's because Volt is relatively new, but there aren't many tutorials on youtube that shows how to do anything more advanced than a calculator or a todo list with it. For example my current project is something like a tinder clone. I've handled swiping users left and right with a Volt component to avoid refreshing the page each time. But now I want to show past users on the sidebar (which is another component) as user swipes, and I'm having a hard time finding a tutorial/source for something like that. I've tried many "emits" and "dispatches" and "listeners" but that Volt component just doesn't seem to update my livewire component (sidebar).
Also most popular apps are built with Ruby on Rails, then some python and a bit of Node, but I haven't seen startups using Laravel or a big tech company using Laravel. I was always curious about this.
I think the “unsexyness” of php is the real issue. Javascript is being hyped way more than php and as a result laravel gets bundled in with the unsexy. But that can be argued about adonis as well which is an excellent node version of laravel with everything included and allows to build fast. But as a framework gets very little love out there. Part of that is think is youtube, bootcamps and the idea that something that you can “see” the result VERY fast and deploy very fast, is what gets attention. However not sure how to turn that around, i guess it really depends on a demand as well for work. I am primarily working with Laravel because i really love how full featured it is, but i also know and am proficient with React/vue, and a few other tools. I didn’t start with Laravel, i came from raw php, wordpress, early laravel, then node, vue, react, back to vue, back to wordpress, then back to laravel 😂
@@joshcirrebut not tailwind and alpine. My project current setup is an MVC with Laravel UI and Bootstrap. In addition, I used js for support only that CSS and Laravel can't do. I minimally use CSS as long as Bootstrap could be fix or customize it. I'm planning to use Livewire to replace JS. What stock is that?
Yeah, Python has been on the top for years... it's the most in-demand skill that got a little boost because open AI use of Python. While PHP Usage Has Declined by 40% in Just Over 2 Years 😢
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Source? PHP still powers more than 75% of the Web, which is what it was built for.
No jobs or low pay jobs for PHP devs, good for freelancing though
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Maybe. Regarding the topic of your video, there are many companies reinventing the wheel (doing CMS or CRM in Next.js) just because of the hype new languages / frameworks have. It sells to use the latest of the latest. I've been doing full-time PHP development for the last 15 years (old-fashion PHP 5.2 first, CodeIgniter later, now Laravel) and we deploy faster, cheaper and better than other teams in the same company. Of course, I'm still interested in front, like Angular and React, but our team has senior devs for it. These two (js for front, Laravel for back API) would continue ruling the Internet for a long time.
from my experience learning laravel is too large for bootcamps can squeeze in their limited time, and its so flexible bootcamps should also add other frontend to interact with it that my guess from that question Why are bootcamps not teaching Laravel? low demand and looks for mid sr level experience
what? so node and JavaScript are superior in bootcamp? I don't think so kid. bootcamps are not even teaching typescript. Laravel is so so so very easy and can teach by limited time dude
@@kirayamato6128 you are not getting it im talking about from a fresh eyes beginners just basic php view point, blade+ laravel is easy but most entry php work you will be fixing stuff from other front end thats where bootcamping time dont apply english is not my first language sorry
That Laravel app is a marketing ploy. What he did with that dev is not at all a scalable solution to this dev pipeline issue. It’s a money grab for a basic app that anyone can build.
Just finished a bootcamp that taught the MERN stack, and to be honest… I found it overly complicated. 😅 I even considered quitting programming altogether because of how much I dislike JavaScript! But then I stumbled across PHP and Laravel thanks to a documentary, and wow-I was instantly hooked. 😍 I recently started a PHP tutorial, and it’s been a game-changer for me. I couldn’t be happier! 🎉 More bootcamps should definitely teach PHP & Laravel-it’s such a refreshing alternative!
I kinda love the status quo. One negative thing that happens in tech when everybody floods to a framework is that soon you start seeing PR's or suggestions of features that exist elsewhere: "Javascript has X, we also need to have X in Laravel".
I’ve worked mostly with C#/.NET and React/JS at work for the last few years. I recently discovered Laravel (and Rails, too) and would love to get to build more real world applications with them.
I was asked to create a system to pull data from one API service to push to another one, they don't have a native integration. Instead of using a PHP or JavaScript backend solution, I created a whole dashboard with buttons commands and front end to show the whole data migrated on that day. And I built it in Laravel. My boss don't care about it, they only want the results, and that's good. Now I have a functional first project to add to my resume.
There you go! That’s awesome. I love hearing stories like that.
And you look good having built it in one day!
I really like this idea of hiring juniors to build something that will actually get used.
Same here. I would love to do something like this myself in the future. :)
Thanks for the awesome video Josh, I really like your style.
In case you're looking for a video idea (either for here or for Laravel channel), it would be very cool if you did a video showing how to use Volt in a more advanced project. Because I don't know if it's because Volt is relatively new, but there aren't many tutorials on youtube that shows how to do anything more advanced than a calculator or a todo list with it.
For example my current project is something like a tinder clone. I've handled swiping users left and right with a Volt component to avoid refreshing the page each time. But now I want to show past users on the sidebar (which is another component) as user swipes, and I'm having a hard time finding a tutorial/source for something like that. I've tried many "emits" and "dispatches" and "listeners" but that Volt component just doesn't seem to update my livewire component (sidebar).
Not a bootcamp pre say but I was in a one year program that thought PHP and then laravel happy to be a part of this community
Woowww. My Boss also made me pick up Laravel to build an app he had in mind.
Waiting for your way to make a video for handling jobs that must be processed in sequence... 😊
I believe there is a package for this called process. I am actually doing research at the moment for this as i have pipelines that need this.
Yo! That's a very good observation.
Also most popular apps are built with Ruby on Rails, then some python and a bit of Node, but I haven't seen startups using Laravel or a big tech company using Laravel. I was always curious about this.
There are very few big companies that use Laravel, but don't think that big companies don't use PHP.
They don't use Laravel, they use Symphony!
@@mankarsqissiqk Laravel doesn't have a Shopify, Air BNB, Github, etc
@@mankarsqissiqk And your point is? I'm comparing Rails to Laravel, not PHP. and even with PHP it's mostly WordPress.
I think the “unsexyness” of php is the real issue. Javascript is being hyped way more than php and as a result laravel gets bundled in with the unsexy. But that can be argued about adonis as well which is an excellent node version of laravel with everything included and allows to build fast. But as a framework gets very little love out there. Part of that is think is youtube, bootcamps and the idea that something that you can “see” the result VERY fast and deploy very fast, is what gets attention. However not sure how to turn that around, i guess it really depends on a demand as well for work. I am primarily working with Laravel because i really love how full featured it is, but i also know and am proficient with React/vue, and a few other tools. I didn’t start with Laravel, i came from raw php, wordpress, early laravel, then node, vue, react, back to vue, back to wordpress, then back to laravel 😂
What stack if the CSS framework is a Bootstrap instead of Tailwind? And not using Alpine?
Looks like it was a TALL Stack app (Laravel, Livewire, Alpine and Tailwind).
I’m personally of the opinion that’s the best stack for bootcamps too!
@@joshcirrebut not tailwind and alpine.
My project current setup is an MVC with Laravel UI and Bootstrap. In addition, I used js for support only that CSS and Laravel can't do. I minimally use CSS as long as Bootstrap could be fix or customize it.
I'm planning to use Livewire to replace JS. What stock is that?
But guys think of it: imagine laravel was a JS framework 😮
Yeah, Python has been on the top for years... it's the most in-demand skill that got a little boost because open AI use of Python. While PHP Usage Has Declined by 40% in Just Over 2 Years 😢
Source? PHP still powers more than 75% of the Web, which is what it was built for.
Maybe they were referring to PHP usage in bootcamps?
No jobs or low pay jobs for PHP devs, good for freelancing though
Maybe. Regarding the topic of your video, there are many companies reinventing the wheel (doing CMS or CRM in Next.js) just because of the hype new languages / frameworks have. It sells to use the latest of the latest. I've been doing full-time PHP development for the last 15 years (old-fashion PHP 5.2 first, CodeIgniter later, now Laravel) and we deploy faster, cheaper and better than other teams in the same company. Of course, I'm still interested in front, like Angular and React, but our team has senior devs for it. These two (js for front, Laravel for back API) would continue ruling the Internet for a long time.
from my experience learning laravel is too large for bootcamps can squeeze in their limited time, and its so flexible bootcamps should also add other frontend to interact with it that my guess from that question Why are bootcamps not teaching Laravel? low demand and looks for mid sr level experience
what? so node and JavaScript are superior in bootcamp? I don't think so kid. bootcamps are not even teaching typescript. Laravel is so so so very easy and can teach by limited time dude
@@kirayamato6128 you are not getting it im talking about from a fresh eyes beginners just basic php view point, blade+ laravel is easy but most entry php work you will be fixing stuff from other front end thats where bootcamping time dont apply english is not my first language sorry
That Laravel app is a marketing ploy. What he did with that dev is not at all a scalable solution to this dev pipeline issue. It’s a money grab for a basic app that anyone can build.