'DEBATE ME!': MTG & AOC Go OFF THE RAILS In Rage-Fest Hearing | The Kyle Kulinski Show
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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on RUclips. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on RUclips, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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"Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body" is the best thing I've heard today.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
BARS
You know she’s been keeping that one in her back pocket for a while
There are definitely hints of homophobia there
I think AOC and Jasmine Crockett did the correct thing. They can't just sit back and take jabs. Great job ladies. Respect.
AOC did not go off the rails. She rightly called out Green's bullshit.
it's one thing to call someone out on their bs and other to overreact. These people are suppose to be setting a better example, especially in their positions as our "leaders".
They all went off the rails
I suppose it could just be an act for the rest of the word to show that we're willing to go there if you come at us with some bs but just looks weak and stupid to me. How's that saying go? Behind every great man?
yes she did lol
@@HNIN1973 glad to know calling out anti blackness as "overreacting"
"Did I hurt your feelings?"
How in the hell did MTG get elected when she acts like a child?
Gerrymandering
Republican base
Have u met a republican? This is the stupid shit they want they dont want to govern..
AOC and Biden is elected by Democrats dont forget 😂
@OPdbx 💯 exactly. The majority if these elections are gerrymandered along w voter suppression- because she mtg does NOT represent the US
MTG acting like a belligerent child and then asks, "Why won't you debate me?"
And saying people lack the intelligence compared to her 😂
That's kinda a silly take. Mtg is an idiot and was rude for no reason, but she wasn't the one getting hyper emotional and acting like she wanted to fight lol.
@@kevinbilliot507 I mean if you start attacking someone’s appearance, you just want to react. I don’t fault AOC and Jasmine Crockett for fighting back
Jasmine Crockett is nothing impressive
@emmersonzhaime1998 I agree, it's the way they reacted that comes off way more like belligerent children than Mtg did. They could have snarked back in a mature, sophisticated way. Instead, they got all emotional.
AOC, Graduated top of her class at Boston University
MTG Probably failed kindergarten
MTG did pass canter training.
MTG attended high school, but got pregnant would be more like what happened.
no one fails kindergarten, even tim pool made it thru KG.
@AsifKhan-hf9zy Yeah that's the joke... No one fails kindergarten except her
@@AsifKhan-hf9zy,it was a joke, the metaphor is used.....😂😂
MTG probably paid for her degree with mom/dad 💰
MTG comes across as a petulant toddler.
That is pretty much MAGA though.
AOC sounds like an angry mouse
You do know you are capable of criticizing democrats too correct? It’s adorable you find any one of these people impressive
@@bobbun4369 says the petulant child whining about MTG criticism 🤣🤣
@@Caleb-il7omwhen did I defend mtg? “It’s adorable you find any one of these people impressive”
Reading is fun dude
Remove MTG from committee! Problem solved!😕
Expel her from Congress like a certain George Santos (or whatever his real name is).
shes a symptom not a cause
And AOC as well
I don’t even follow AOC like that, yet it’s obvious that MTG is starving for the limelight
She also has a creepy obsession for AOC & now JC!
AOC is a younger version of Katie Porter. If you like someone who will actually fight for you in congress, you'll like these two. If you like when your congressperson represents big business to no end, then you'll hate these two (AOC + Katie Porter).
mtg trying to clout chase by putting herself in the same conversation as actual intelligent women
Classic GOP pick a fight and when someone responds oh how dare you speak to me that way and play victim and tell someone else to calm down.
Reason #5,628 for being embarrassed to be an American.
The more I learn about the US and A
the happier I am to be living far away
@@50-50_Grind
Yeah same
What are the other ones?
Oh, wait, you're _still_ at _only four_ digits?
mtg would be in an asylum in a cuvilized country
The only villain here is MTG. Full stop. Stop defending the crazy Republicans. It's not who you are.
True! I feel like Kyle trying to both sides this issue, he's ignoring the issue...wich is MTG!
AOC whether I agree with her politics or not at least unlike Marjorie Taylor Scream is there to do her job unlike MTG who is there to be an agitator
What things you don’t agree with aoc she’s the best thing that has happened to congress she have the same ideas as berny
Maybe you need to watch the interview with AOC and Bernie. He has LOADS of respect for her.
If there's more than 30 IQ points separating two people, meaningful communication is practically impossible.
MTG represents one of the most gerrymandered districts in the country. So she's never gonna lose her seat 🤦🏽♂️.
Good, she's great at sabotaging her own party
Idiocracy looks like a brighter future than where we’re heading.
"Get your hands off my junk!"
This would never have been a problem if they’d held MTG accountable before this. She’s been getting away with this shit for the entire time she’s been there, minus a short time she was removed from committees.
Exactly
Someone??? That Rep Jasmine Crockett bro! And thats who the back and forth was ACTUALLY with. Come on Kyle. This is a bad look for you bro. Just looking out dawg
Right?! How is Politics supposed to be his job, and he doesn't know Crockett?! Some days Kyle makes me sad watching him
Righttt...
…and?! These people all suck.
@@davidevans2810 you haven't paid attention to Jasmin Crockett either then! She actually gets stuff done... if you and I and the population at large paid more attention and actually get the grandstanding idiots who are only there to take corporate cash, we could actually have a functioning government that works for us instead of for Corporate interests... Saying they all suck only serve the most corrupt, because we are just as likely to vote someone actually doing their job out as them!
Not saying she's an angel, but if you watch, you'd see that most of her moments are poignant compared to most.
Debate me is now just slang for "Let's shout at and over eat other for 90 minutes while our respective cliques pull a jerry springer show."
Unfortunately this is the real world 🌎 buddy and we are living in a clown show. I don’t see what’s the problem with a debate.
Team AOC and Jasmine Crockett all the way !!!! I am all for the rumble that AOC and Jasmine Crockett are bringing to the table after being attacked needlessly - as always - by margerine hitler green.
"Margarine" Green! 😂😂😂
You haven't seen the shit happening in my country if you think this is bad. There was literal chilli powder thrown in faces in our parliament.
That would be sure to make MTG neigh and buck around the room.
@@AdamtheRed-😂😂😂 man that was so damn good!! 🏆
What country
Honestly? I wish we were more like you. Maybe physical fighting would prove to be more productive than what we currently have.
Sri Lanka?
Crockett owned her wit dat “Barell Bodied BUTCH comment” 😂
What’s funny is this host screamed how he was sick and tired of polite society and how the Dems were too milk-toast with their responses. Well here you go.
TRUUUUUUEEEEE
If they were going to the mat like this about workers’ issues, infrastructure, and healthcare, I’d be in the cheering section. But they’re arguing over how somebody looks? “Real” issues.
@@cco53587 I agree 100% and I was going to make that very point as well. I guess the greater point here is that this is where the maga movement has put us. It’s a dark, spoiled, entitled and uneducated group of leaders. Every person in media including political RUclipsrs did a great disservice ignoring these repugnant creatures allowing them to gain even more attention and power. Instead focusing on how democrats and republicans are virtually the same as the maga movement has taken away abortion rites and now working on destroying our sacred democracy.
I agree with what you said, but the word milquetoast. I've been seeing it spelled the way you did quite a bit this week.
I think he means about the policies that matter, not just insulting each other about appearance.
i mean mtg asked for it.
Marjorie, please stay on topic or at least explain what you are talking about
Marjorie: RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MTG started it and Jasmine Crocket responded, as she should have.
"sombody chimes in" - her name is Rep Jasmine Crockett 🙄
Very rude.
Who the hell is telling Crockett to calm down? What an asshole. To be fair though in US history they actually had duels in the congress 😂
Might be Paulina luna.
They all need to calm down. It’s embarrassing and pathetic from everyone
She's telling that Butch bleach blonde MTG to calm down . Ms trashy was the one that threw the first Stone.
Bruh she made fun of her eyelashes and she completely lost her mind
Loony Luna
Bleached Blonde Bad Built Butch Body was too funny.
MTG: Why won't you debate me?
AOC: I don't believe in punching down.
I dunno, AOC acted more unhinged and so did eyelash girl
@@deez3913 AOC acted more unhinged by demanding the person slinging insults and conspiracy theories about a subject that has nothing to do the reason they were all in a room be removed from said room????? Also referring to her as the eyelash girl is odd. She's a senator.
mtg is so pathetic
Newet Gingrich must be so proud of himself.
Jerry Springer: the Congress
Honestly we need to make Maury Povich speaker of the house to make things a little more lively
@@Odinsday Maury: Trump, you are not the President.
Fetterman said this. Y'all aware you like the both sides-ing this huh? Nice
@@Caleb-il7om vs Fetterman: DAWN OF JUSTICE!
not related to politics, im just silly.
Why Kyle doesn't say MTG is racist to Crockett's appearance? AOC was the only one who defend Crockett. He is sounding like Fetterman. Jerry Springer my ass🤨
🙄
Trust me. All this Democratic house reps present defended Jasmine Crockett that night one way or the other. AOC just was the loudest and most heard. That is one of her strengths.
🎯🎯🎯
There were other voices speaking up for her
Kyle is lowkey ok with black women being verbally attacked… talking about “dignity and class” as if MTG didn’t start it… I’ve noticed that shxt with him…
Anyone debating MTG would be straw-manned, gish galloped, and ad homed before they even got sat down...
Marge is so desperate for the VP you can taste it in the air about her.
Embarrassingly bad.
Our country is turning to shit
It always been
Part of me thinks we deserve to rot because of how monstrous we are to the world and the fact that we don't have basic stuff all other developed countries have.
might be sad to say but the truth is the world power is ALWAYS "monstrous to the world"
You likely dont get near the top without being that way
When I was in college back in 1975 I remember one of my professors remarking that the US Congress is not like other countries' legislatures where people break out into fights. It's unfortunate that in recent years we have become like those other countries. :(
You should have more fights in congress. Fuck civility. If you're not willing to punch it out for what you believe in do you even believe anything at all? It'll separate the cowardly careerists from the people who actualy want to take a meaningful stand on something.
Money in politics has everything to do with this.
Jerry Springer: If you're just joining us, today's show is, "My name is Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I'm going to piss off AOC."
Audience: "JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You should be condemning MTG and not making this about anyone else. This is not equal in the least.
Body-shaming MTG is okay because she started it? It’s like responding to racism with racism. I expect the progressives in Congress to act with dignity so as not to make themselves look unserious and childish.
@@tantzer6113 cry harder
I remember why I watch Kyle much less than I used to. Both sides-ing this shit just like fetterman did (fetterman's the one that shared on Twitter that it's like Jerry Springer in Congress now). Amazing job kyle
@@Caleb-il7om It's infuriating to see. I also am getting really tired of his Biden bashing. He doesn't acknowledge anything good Biden has done.
@@vertigo2894Kyle and Krystal literally debated Brianna Joy Gray about voting for Biden, in which the couple defended Biden's record against Brie's attacks. Blue Maga is very difficult to please and catches feelings if their messiah is subject to the slightest criticism.
The Real Housewives of Congress.
"When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around."
I genuinely don’t know what’s going to change this country for the better.
The voter’s to stop supporting both of these ridiculous parties.
Would it kill us to actually give a third-party a freaking try for once?
After that we can return back to the corporate duopoly everyone seems to love.
Let’s just try SOMETHING better first.
@@Don.M. : Everyone is brainwashed to believe that third parties "are not viable" -- So they continue to vote for the duopoly, and make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Step # 1
Vote GOP OUT OF OFFICE.
ALL OF THEM. !!!
@@Don.M.The system isn't set up that way, and no one in congress wants to change a system they've succeeded in.
Life quality up, education up, end of Trumpism
American Empire in full decline...
The saddest part is there are people out there that are passionately going to say MTG is in the right here
the only credit I’ll ever give MTG is that she definitely isn’t the type of person who runs their mouth about someone online but would never say it to that someone’s face. She’ll call you an ass or worse online and offline.
Na... she knows where she is protected... she'd never lip off like that chest to chest with no one there to protect her... she is a coward... she does stuff like this because she I'd like a 2 year old needing attention.
Alcohol is a courage booster.
What are you talking about ? She MTG routinely runs whenever anyone checks her to her face.
@@tallking7777 No, just Congress. High schools can at least achieve double digit approval.
@@thecollector6746 Whenever you see her at these hearings, she grills them to their faces. More than you can say about a lot of these keyboard warriors who would never say what they say online to AOC’s face.
Jasmine Crockett 💯🔥 !!!!
Who’s telling Jasmine to calm down? She needs to tell Comer to do his job!
"That's beneath even you."
No... no, it really isn't.
the us is going down the gutter lol
This should be settled in the oil and mud wrestling rings like all true political disagreements.
I'd pay to watch that.
AOC & Jasmine Crockett would never stoop to that, no matter how pissed off they find themselves; Marj and Boebert might, though, in an attempt to win the affections of Trump, which seems to be a major priority of each of theirs
All "Great Empires" come to an end. We're watching ours in real time.
all the men are probably sitting there with their head in their hands thinking "Jesus fucking Christ"
Reminds me of 14 year olds screeching "1v1 me bro" on xbox live
you ever see south park movie? the chairman reminds me of the general when chef is like you ever hear of the emancipation proclamation? and the general is like i don't listen to hip hop.
"We call this, Operation Human Shield. Be sure and protect our planes and tanks too, Human Shield".
Chef: "Hey, wait a minute!"
😂😂😂
"Were never gonna get healthcare are we. We are never gonna stop the wars are we."
That's the point!
They want to maintain the status quo until the U.S. ceases to exist.
This is exactly what we need!! 🍿
Ladies and gentlemen,
Jasmine Crockett. 👏👏🤣
The absolute state of the political field has become so pitiful beyond salvation
That “somebody” is thee Jasmine Crockett. 💅🏽
When your nation's Congress turns into Jersey Shore, you got a problem.
'Merica is so fucked.
So long and thanks for all the planes.
Oh MTG you don't want that debate smoke but of course she's all talk. MTG is a pigeon playing chess she would crap all over the chess board knocking over the pieces acting like she won.
And I thought UK Parliament was unhinged.
Instead of ending homelessness, we're basically making it even worse. Well done Congress.
I hate MTG but AOCs baby girl comments were cringe AF …
No, she's on "our side" you have to like it
I got the sense that she was exhausted, at wit's end, and had no more fucks to give...do you really think that was planned somehow?
I have tried the MTG strategy of yelling "calm down, you are getting upset" with my girl as she was raising her voice before. It ended up with about the same result
Baby gurl, don’t even puhlay
Havent we had people in congress get in literal duels? People act like this is some recent development, but the history of politics in the us has been a drunken trailer park disaster since it's inception.
this is so embarrassing
Maybe Harrison Butker was on to something
That shit was wild the other day
Idiocracy came a lot sooner than the movie predicted.
Meanwhile, in the Roman Imperial Senate 2000 years ago: "For Jupiter's sake have some fucking class!"
People becoming homeless because they got sick, and meanwhile our congress is an episode of the real housewives of DC
Exactly
I gotta say... This is a pretty accurate representation of our voting population...
We don’t have healthcare, people are sleeping on the streets and this is what they’re doing? I hate it here
Not at all concerned with AOC or Jasmine’s response when MTG starts stirring up shit just cause.
Perfectly encapsulates America.
Fake eyelashes and hair extensions
@@afridgetoofar1818 no. the obsession with them. in congress. of all the places.
Come on let it reach Ukrainian parliament level chaos I wan't to see brawling on the Senate floor.
Nobody Speak?
the first time I attended a public event at Ukrainian Dim in central Kyiv, I was struck with a deep sense of déjà vu which kinda freaked me out until I realized it was the site of that music video
"You are not serious people "
Impossible to debate MTG,she doesn’t deal with facts.
Kyle is an amazing man he is amazing
Remember when Kyle appeared on Jesse Lee Peterson's show! #Amazin'
Maybe our founding fathers were on to something when they didn't let women into politics... 😂
perhaps if they had, we would nt have all those mass shootings everywhere. or the police brutality. possibly the civil war could have been avoided. or World War One even ===== with all those women, we would ve just spent all those resources throwing insults at each other in congress instead of destroying half the planet
That was incredible. Just incredible...
Raskin was like WTF? Not a boring day at work today. 🤣
The US government or Junior High School?!?
junior high?
they have debate teams in junior high mate. this is kindergarten, straight up.
Says the hot white guy. You're totally in tune with everything 😂
tf lol
@@Rowsy91 he's not wrong. Kyle can *get it,*
The hot white guy? TF! 👀
"we're never gonna get health care, are we"....😅. Sadly true.
I am so tired of all the grandstanding by our so called "representatives". This country has serious problems that have just been stacking on top of each other for decades and this is what they argue about. The United States is in serious decline.
THIS SHOULD BE DUBBED “THE HOUSEWIVES OF THE WHITE HOUSE”!
Or as SNL's Weekend Update put it, "The Waffle House."
I’m not sure you understand how our government works if you think this took place in the White House
This is the end of our empire
Good. America was never meant to be one
The look on Raskin's face was priceless.
Imagine sitting in the audience yelling JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! and it making sense. America has totally lost its mind.
This country is a joke
I heard Sweden is taking ppl
*This world is a joke.
@@Chesside which is ironic,
considering that was the very point America prided itself on.... ah the sheer irony of that comment
MTG is just a blonde bully Karen and AOC is just a whiny drama queen. In an alternate universe, these two are best buds.
lion face vs bug face............... bring it
3:31 Lauren Boehbert in the center of the video praying to Jesus lmao
Perfect example of why you don’t get in an argument with a crazy person
also goes to show how entitled Marj has gotten since most people most of the time just nod and check the time while she rambles since it's easier than actually challenging her---AOC & Jasmine Crockett had run out of fucks to give after a 14 hour day, and each decided it was worth pushing back on this idiotic blowhard playground bully when Comer seemed fine with her behavior