All of OG Esports switched to grass boost after Luminosity all switched to grass boost today... An entire RLCS lobby with grass boost which doesn't display very well from far away... when do we consider it a problem?
If you're going to tackle the boost problem, you gotta address the decal and trails problem as well. There are color theories that suggest camouflage works in real-world applications. Consider the notion of matching your opponents' color schemes or even the arena color schemes or the color theory that darker colors or even neutral colors are less registered by the eye. Then, consider the trails being invisible. See, you want to tackle 1 aspect of a much larger issue. Cause the issue you're tapping into is more about what gives the opponent an edge, even if it is small. Why not also tackle trash talking? Cause that could also give an opponent an edge. Screaming on LAN that gives an edge. Camouflage your car to match your opponents, that gives an edge. See, you can't just target boost and be fine with all of these other aspects that give a team an edge.
I've actually always used the ones that are least visible because it helps me focus on my car during aerials. The other side of that is that you don't get the visual cues that you are staying on boost too long.
Through BM I use black ion as it's invisible and OEM C (not the v2) as engine sound as it's extremely silent and helps me to hear better what's going on around me, especially people trying to demo from behind. But I don't see any reason to ban anything like that anywhere as that won't give a major and annoying hit to the competition like brokenly OP characters in fighting games do for example.
Engine sound isn't talked about enough. Some car sounds make me feel like I'm going to slow or too fast. Take R3MX vs Takumi, for example. R3MX sounds like a supercar/hypercard while the Takumi makes me think of an Evo or Skyline or something. I imagine a tuner car would be about the right power to run around the field without sacrificing control (even though it's all in my head haha)
The issue with engine sound is that you may also diminish the capacity of your teammates to hear you, for instance if a play slows down on defense a teammate may not readily realize you have just arrived behind him.
It’s funny I never cared about engine noises or having ridiculous boost like monsoon & etc on until I got better. Now I have to try my hardest to tune out a teammate with the Scarab, Cat or Helicopter engine.
Leth: Testing different boosts to see if they provide an advantage. First game: Leth keeps missing boost or getting it stolen. Gotta love when that happens!
@jackherder218 nah, only know it from boost used against me. Sometimes I be air dribbling and deciding to go for a reset bcz I hear no one up, only to get promptly dunked immediately...
@@jackherder218 Yeah, the boost called "Interdimensional GB" is very difficult to hear by other player. There are a couple more that a very quiet, but I've used this one in the past On problem is it sucks as a boost haha
Bro I’ve been using the bubbles boost for years and my reasoning was because it didn’t get in my way when I jumped up. I never thought about my opponents not being able to see it 😅
I can see something similar happening like in CS with Agent Skins which give you an advantage on certain maps. Now Pros are playing on a Gentlemen's Agreement, only using the standard Agent skins in competitive play.
In the air dribbling community back in the day, I believe ganer used bubbles for the reason that it's hard to see. Now we use Black Ion as it's much more invisible and easy to see through, which helps a lot when it comes to lifting the ball back up when you're falling down.
"back in the day" I feel so old, I still have clips of me trying it out back then on my channel. I started air dribbling again recently, and I just got a wave of nostalgia from this comment
I like playing 2s to practice 2v1 scenarios bc my tm8s are always either an 8 yr old playing on someone's account and have the mechsnics of a baby giraffe learning to walk or diamonds that think they're pros and get tilted 30s in bc I accidently team bumped them or "stole their goal" so they play for the other team
10:36 its funny seeing squishy and leth talk about gold plat and diamond in their road to ssl series about how the teammates get tilted easily and rage quit or early forfeit and then seeing the early forfeit coming out from squishy lol
Probably because in lower lobbies, comebacks are so much easier, so forfeiting early is bad. But in pro lobbies, if you’re down 3 or 4, coming back is way way harder
yeah, obviously not cheating. Though tbf the title is kinda clickbait and this vid is just leth trying the boost out. Nothing wrong with a bit of clickbait though!
wel i think he’s talking about how you can put on a big boost that is more blinding to other players and then with bakkesmod use a normal boost so you see fine
I feel like the highest level of game play all the players know if their opponents have boost or not. And the lower ranks probably don’t even notice lol
lmao this, the pro probably can notice even the smallest detail/changes, and the rest are busy on their flip reset that they wont even consider what are their opponent are doing
It should not be banned unless it gives an unfair competitive advantage. If certain boost actually give you a stronger boost then it should be banned until fixed, but cosmetics shouldn't be banned.
@Lethamyr if it was something that had to be bought to unlock, like some of the cars that are no longer standard then id say yes. But if its something that everyone has i dont see there being much of an advantage. I think yalls settings have you going crazy tbh lol
@@LethamyrYeah, I agree that it should be banned. Even minor advantages such as color of boost can be a game changer in the RLCS level because everyone is so good!
Using boost like this is one of top tips, if you use a crazy boost you blind your teammate and at times yourself esp when in the air. So think of your team mate esp in kick off, use black standard boost or burnt sienna spinkles
i was watching squishys stream when he went against someone using the bubble boost and it just looked like the guy using it was just levitating toward the ball lol
seeing how they banned the poof explosion bc it makes clips less hype, banning a few boosts bc they're almost impossible to see or hear for players shouldn't even be a question imo. Nothing is lost when these boosts aren't allowed, the game shouldn't be about what items you equip
I know I'm late to this but OG Season 2 boost is also very hard to see when you're feathering since the boost line just disappears when you let go. If you hold it, then you can see it but just quick taps shows only the flame from the car, nothing else.
I've used black manhattan boost for awhile for the same reason, it's a tournament reward from awhile back. It's the least visible of any of the boosts that I've seen.
No, it isn't cheating, but I see the advantage you'd gain from using those boosts. Just seems like.. everyone can use it and then it won't be as advantageous? I don't get why they just won't let this stuff work itself out. Like anything else in the game, it ends up balancing out. Is it cheating to hide behind the ball? ONLY cars with big hit boxes in RLCS? It gets silly quick. Either adjust the boosts and how they look, or leave it IMO. Also, just for the record, while using boosts like that I feel slower and tripped up by having a less bright indicator that I'm boosting. But, I do tend to play without game audio, but I think it's relevant either way.
Squishy, JKnaps, and yourself would be such a wonder team for rlcs, you could call your team the retirement home! The way you all play smart and for your teammates would be such an na powerhouse! Also JKnaps, where its JKnaps napping in a bed.
@@mac_sour not really, I was just stating my opinion. What's weird about that? It's not like that's what everyone does on the internet literally all the time.
@@Mster_J nah lethamyr is just really really slow, I don’t consider that a play style necessarily because he can play the same but if he was just faster it would be ok, he has to make his decisions faster so that there is less stagnant time consuming the match. His play style is actually decent though, he’s just too slow with it
@lethamyr I was thinking about this earlier when the big black Star Wars boost came out. Very easy to read. But can it maybe help you to fake out opponents? Because it appears clearly you’re boosting and you can stop before you hit te ball. What do you think? I’m not good enough to test this myself properly.
I had always considered the noise to be the big tell, but perhaps visuals are moreso? I have typically tried quiet boosts, like sparkles.. but i may have to change
i’ve had one problem with grass boost in the past two weeks. the guy on the other team went off my corner after grabbing my boost. he was super far away from the ball after resetting on the ceiling so i didn’t think he was gonna hit it, so i set myself up for a long clear. heard the boost sound as soon as i jumped and got shit on😭 proceeded to say “FUCKING GRASS BOOST” in chat and he said “ahaha sorry bro”
I know it's basically impossible because of region difference, but its a dream of mine to see my 3 favorite players (Squishy, Lethamyr, and Flakes) team up in some sort of competitive scenario. I think it would be magical.
Hey Leth - how bout a custom map where the goal activates / deactivates every second or so . Alternately, a gate on the goal opens or closes. Maybe it's already been done. Popped into my head last night and figured I'd share. Thanks for the content!
I have mained bubble boost for years to not blind myself in specific aerial angles where I feel other boosts could obscure the view🤷♂️ Never heard anyone say it’s harder to read when I’m boosting though, it’s just more spread out so that you can see through it. Idk, maybe iv’e been cheating all this time🗿
Leth Ive got a video idea for a prank, if possible you could make the game give scores anytime an action happens (shot on net, saves, center etc.) and then not tell anyone
The entire back of your car lights up. They can just make it brighter. I’ve used bubbles for years because I feel it does give me an advantage but does it really? Can we not actually see it or is it placebo?
@@Lethamyrwell let’s take a look here. In general play, everybody uses different boosts and trails, and cars, if someone has an advantageous boost, people will start using a boost that does the same thing. If it was that big of an issue, there are still several ways to recognize boost use. Sound cue, momentum gain, trails, and if they pick up a large boost and see small boosts being picked up by them. While I do think it offers a slight advantage, it’s something that anybody can use, does not matter if they don’t have black grass or ion because bubbles is free. They all do the same thing. Personally I don’t think it should be banned, rather, I think it adds another layer to the many mechanics you have to learn. It also makes you focus on smaller details. I think it’s fine for pros, especially since most aren’t using it. Should we ban karmine kickoffs because people can’t tell what they’ll do? No. Both karmine kickoffs and this boost are a preplanned advantage made by a team. The other team also has access to this advantage. That’s my opinion, but I’m open to new ideas
It only becomes a problem when it isn’t available to every player who wants it. They should come up with a feature where, if a player wants a certain boost, they can get it from another player…
This is an interesting topic which extends far beyond just boost visuals! My personal rule of thumb is that this type of "advantage" is fine so long as: - (req 1) it does NOT specifically target an individual player - (req 2) it does NOT come at the expense of the audience So I am OK with: - Players using short names to get a smaller, more eclipsable nameplate. - A 2v2 octane + fennec team swapping engine sounds halfway through a multi-game series. But I am NOT OK with: - Players using decals of the opposite team's color to confuse opponents, because this may also confuse the audience (violation of req 2). - Players buying an identical model of their opponent's headset and listening to all engine sounds and determine which is least audible (violation of req 1) - Given a colorblind opponent, using a car designed to camouflage itself against their particular form of colorblindness (violation of req 1, potential violation of req 2) This makes me NOT OK with the "boost advantage" because it comes as the expense of the audience (violation of req 2). I think an appropriate fix would be to give spectator client the option to visually force standard boost on all cars.
My argument here is surely having thousands of hours makes you able to see people moving at speed or even expectation of play?? But if it works, I'm all for it
The grass boost in RLCS was soooo annoying to listen to. About half way through the first game I had to mute. I understand they get an advantage with hard to see boosts but if I was Epic/Psyonics I would be more worried about the fact 100,000 people are watching with no audio because of how annoying some of the boosts sound. I guess it's Psyonic's fault for adding in so many of those "annoying" boosts. Yeah it's funny to troll people for a game or 2 but when the pros are using it in their most watched series it may be an issue.
Imo this is the same as Riot and skins. They need to rework them or ban in competitive. People will use everything to get an advantage and its on the devs to balance it
All of OG Esports switched to grass boost after Luminosity all switched to grass boost today... An entire RLCS lobby with grass boost which doesn't display very well from far away... when do we consider it a problem?
fr first like and reply btw
I think OG switched for the memes.
Ngl I called it. If it’s black grass gg.
If you're going to tackle the boost problem, you gotta address the decal and trails problem as well. There are color theories that suggest camouflage works in real-world applications. Consider the notion of matching your opponents' color schemes or even the arena color schemes or the color theory that darker colors or even neutral colors are less registered by the eye.
Then, consider the trails being invisible.
See, you want to tackle 1 aspect of a much larger issue.
Cause the issue you're tapping into is more about what gives the opponent an edge, even if it is small.
Why not also tackle trash talking? Cause that could also give an opponent an edge. Screaming on LAN that gives an edge. Camouflage your car to match your opponents, that gives an edge.
See, you can't just target boost and be fine with all of these other aspects that give a team an edge.
lol. I have a boost that comes out the car kinda sideways instead of straight back. I exclusively use it because people can’t read my pathing
Every single player in the OG vs LG game today was using the grass boost for this reason. Nice timing.
It’s crazy how the day Leth posts this, a bunch of pros are using the grass boost in RLCS
I knew it was coming LOL
I've actually always used the ones that are least visible because it helps me focus on my car during aerials. The other side of that is that you don't get the visual cues that you are staying on boost too long.
same here!
I think that downsides doesn't apply to higher skilled players. I dont think they rely on visual cues for boost managment, atleast I dont. 👍
@@TRJKI believe boost management is muscle memory for high MMR players
i don't, sometimes my boost blocks my vision and i can't see anything it is kinda fúnny ngl-
@@robertcarson7871it is partially that but it’s also field strategy and how they move, so it’s 50% muscle memory 50% how they play the field
Through BM I use black ion as it's invisible and OEM C (not the v2) as engine sound as it's extremely silent and helps me to hear better what's going on around me, especially people trying to demo from behind. But I don't see any reason to ban anything like that anywhere as that won't give a major and annoying hit to the competition like brokenly OP characters in fighting games do for example.
Engine sound isn't talked about enough.
Some car sounds make me feel like I'm going to slow or too fast.
Take R3MX vs Takumi, for example. R3MX sounds like a supercar/hypercard while the Takumi makes me think of an Evo or Skyline or something. I imagine a tuner car would be about the right power to run around the field without sacrificing control (even though it's all in my head haha)
The issue with engine sound is that you may also diminish the capacity of your teammates to hear you, for instance if a play slows down on defense a teammate may not readily realize you have just arrived behind him.
It’s funny I never cared about engine noises or having ridiculous boost like monsoon & etc on until I got better. Now I have to try my hardest to tune out a teammate with the Scarab, Cat or Helicopter engine.
you probably know, but just in case you didnt, having black ion on bakkesmod wont work against opponents since they cant see it
It does affect the viewers experience tho. It's way nicer to see boost than to see cars just floating out of nothing
Leth: Testing different boosts to see if they provide an advantage.
First game: Leth keeps missing boost or getting it stolen.
Gotta love when that happens!
Pros love this trick: can't see my boost if I have no boost *taps head
This is rocketleague!
2v2 is different than 2s and threes
good to know
2s is separate from even itself
I was looking for this 😭😭 I know he meant to say 1s and 3s but it’s still funny to hear
the simulation is cracking
It's really the quiet boosts that are broken. You can't use sound in certain positions to know if someone is going or not
Any good examples?
@jackherder218 nah, only know it from boost used against me. Sometimes I be air dribbling and deciding to go for a reset bcz I hear no one up, only to get promptly dunked immediately...
@@jackherder218 I use Horsepower Engine Audio (F2P Season 4 Pass) and Bubbles. Even my 1ss opponents say it's pretty much silent.
@@jackherder218 if you find my comment other i have a good example
@@jackherder218 Yeah, the boost called "Interdimensional GB" is very difficult to hear by other player. There are a couple more that a very quiet, but I've used this one in the past
On problem is it sucks as a boost haha
4:42 "2v2 is an interesting game mode, it is very different to 2's and 3's..." huh? 😂😂
@@Jace-e4oshoot, he should replace DannyLotus!
critiquing on point
Clearly I am being facetious
@@Jace-e4o chill dawg
@traviswitt7698 imagine seeing someone joking and then being serious about it
"You got 2 likes, way to go!" As of now he has 21 and you have 1 lmao
@@Bizz4r2m0ke 2
@@Jace-e4o You messed up as well mate
Bro I’ve been using the bubbles boost for years and my reasoning was because it didn’t get in my way when I jumped up. I never thought about my opponents not being able to see it 😅
I can see something similar happening like in CS with Agent Skins which give you an advantage on certain maps. Now Pros are playing on a Gentlemen's Agreement, only using the standard Agent skins in competitive play.
In the air dribbling community back in the day, I believe ganer used bubbles for the reason that it's hard to see. Now we use Black Ion as it's much more invisible and easy to see through, which helps a lot when it comes to lifting the ball back up when you're falling down.
I switched to bubbles boost in ranked and immediately noticed I started beating people more than with a super flashy boost
(this was last year)
@@opliko tbf most people use standard or sparkles in higher ranks, in lower ranks people will use something flashy
Darksaber and the black one from the battlepass are so nice and outta the way for me rn
"back in the day" I feel so old, I still have clips of me trying it out back then on my channel. I started air dribbling again recently, and I just got a wave of nostalgia from this comment
I like playing 2s to practice 2v1 scenarios bc my tm8s are always either an 8 yr old playing on someone's account and have the mechsnics of a baby giraffe learning to walk or diamonds that think they're pros and get tilted 30s in bc I accidently team bumped them or "stole their goal" so they play for the other team
You sound like a ballchaser. Go play 1s
Are you a perfect teammate like me?
@@Mster_J hope that's sarcasm lol
Sounds like you’re in plat rank
I’ve been using black ion for years 🤙🏻
Firstly because my boost trail is distracting for me visually
Secondly for stealth
007’s DB5 plus Black Ion is my go-to combo. It’s so freaking clean.
10:36 its funny seeing squishy and leth talk about gold plat and diamond in their road to ssl series about how the teammates get tilted easily and rage quit or early forfeit and then seeing the early forfeit coming out from squishy lol
Leth is annoying to play with since he overthinks a lot
Probably because in lower lobbies, comebacks are so much easier, so forfeiting early is bad. But in pro lobbies, if you’re down 3 or 4, coming back is way way harder
Not cheating. Everyone uses fennec because it makes it easier to read the ball on your car. This is just as much of a competitive advantage.
Ruins the viewing experience in RLCS
@@George-li1yv dude if a boost trail ruins your experience you need a new hobby.
yeah, obviously not cheating. Though tbf the title is kinda clickbait and this vid is just leth trying the boost out. Nothing wrong with a bit of clickbait though!
wel i think he’s talking about how you can put on a big boost that is more blinding to other players and then with bakkesmod use a normal boost so you see fine
Lol a boost ruins it? Pathetic. @George-li1yv
The black grass clippings is about the same. I saw all of luminosity and OG use the normal clippings in the quals today
I just tweeted about it! It's becoming the main strat LOL
I feel like the highest level of game play all the players know if their opponents have boost or not. And the lower ranks probably don’t even notice lol
lmao this, the pro probably can notice even the smallest detail/changes, and the rest are busy on their flip reset that they wont even consider what are their opponent are doing
It's not about knowing IF they have boost, but more about when they're using it
@@Lethamyrand a cue that helps identify the direction
@@Lethamyr Unless you are arguing your opponents have a right to know when you are boosting I don't see why it should be banned.
It should not be banned unless it gives an unfair competitive advantage. If certain boost actually give you a stronger boost then it should be banned until fixed, but cosmetics shouldn't be banned.
Isn't not being able to see what a player is doing with their boost a "competitive advantage"?
@@Lethamyrwhen black grass came in the shop I used it and it’s practically invisible. Even less than black ion imo
@Lethamyr if it was something that had to be bought to unlock, like some of the cars that are no longer standard then id say yes. But if its something that everyone has i dont see there being much of an advantage. I think yalls settings have you going crazy tbh lol
@@LethamyrYeah, I agree that it should be banned. Even minor advantages such as color of boost can be a game changer in the RLCS level because everyone is so good!
@@Lethamyr Everyone is able to use the boost, so nobody has an advantage per say.
I swear whenever Leth is in the lobby it makes everyone else so much more calm and collected. I love seeing it lmao
10:15 SQUISHY SAVE 😍
We have an option to force default team colors, I’m all for an option to strip all decals, boost, trails etc.
That option already exists...
@@pragmatickaos852 Where?
@@andreasrapp5758 oh I thought it was an option but I guess it's only available with third-party mods like Bakkesmod
Tryna showcase the boost. Gets boost starved by himself 😂😂
Using boost like this is one of top tips, if you use a crazy boost you blind your teammate and at times yourself esp when in the air. So think of your team mate esp in kick off, use black standard boost or burnt sienna spinkles
i was watching squishys stream when he went against someone using the bubble boost and it just looked like the guy using it was just levitating toward the ball lol
7:18 - nobody expects squishy to go for that save...😉
Nice comment hehe
13:56 I know a little luck was involved here but that is also an insane read - you knew early on that it was happening!
seeing how they banned the poof explosion bc it makes clips less hype, banning a few boosts bc they're almost impossible to see or hear for players shouldn't even be a question imo. Nothing is lost when these boosts aren't allowed, the game shouldn't be about what items you equip
that's not true
Black candyfloss from the item shop yesterday looked almost invisible as well
I know I'm late to this but OG Season 2 boost is also very hard to see when you're feathering since the boost line just disappears when you let go. If you hold it, then you can see it but just quick taps shows only the flame from the car, nothing else.
Kep owes Chicago 100 bones. 😂😂😂
I've used black manhattan boost for awhile for the same reason, it's a tournament reward from awhile back. It's the least visible of any of the boosts that I've seen.
i love when leth is a commentator is his on games hits different
Funny I watched this game in Alphakep’s live the other day. Was wondering id see it on your channel
No, it isn't cheating, but I see the advantage you'd gain from using those boosts. Just seems like.. everyone can use it and then it won't be as advantageous? I don't get why they just won't let this stuff work itself out. Like anything else in the game, it ends up balancing out. Is it cheating to hide behind the ball? ONLY cars with big hit boxes in RLCS? It gets silly quick. Either adjust the boosts and how they look, or leave it IMO. Also, just for the record, while using boosts like that I feel slower and tripped up by having a less bright indicator that I'm boosting. But, I do tend to play without game audio, but I think it's relevant either way.
Just turned on RLCS. I thought I was noticing an awful lot of Grass boosts lately. Guess this is why.
Squishy, JKnaps, and yourself would be such a wonder team for rlcs, you could call your team the retirement home!
The way you all play smart and for your teammates would be such an na powerhouse!
Also JKnaps, where its JKnaps napping in a bed.
ive been using the bubble since i started because the other boosts were too distracting, can confirm no advantage as im still bad at the game
Leth is the only content creator that can make my day with these funny videos ❤
Nice pfp, earned a like, even if your post is very boring to constantly find on channels
@@ditoo2002 what a weird comment to post
@@mac_sour not really, I was just stating my opinion. What's weird about that? It's not like that's what everyone does on the internet literally all the time.
Squishy pushing up field every play leaving Leth and then forfeiting is mind blowing
Nah leth is slow squishy is used to… “better” players
Different play styles that don’t mix well
@@Mster_J nah lethamyr is just really really slow, I don’t consider that a play style necessarily because he can play the same but if he was just faster it would be ok, he has to make his decisions faster so that there is less stagnant time consuming the match. His play style is actually decent though, he’s just too slow with it
I’m watching RLCS right now and Cheese from Luminosity is using grass boost.
"I guess I'm just a bubble dunker" 👀
@lethamyr I was thinking about this earlier when the big black Star Wars boost came out. Very easy to read. But can it maybe help you to fake out opponents? Because it appears clearly you’re boosting and you can stop before you hit te ball. What do you think? I’m not good enough to test this myself properly.
Gregory David music and Leth videos go together like peanut butter and jelly
In C1-GC1, everyone challenges everything at all times. Super annoying.
I had always considered the noise to be the big tell, but perhaps visuals are moreso? I have typically tried quiet boosts, like sparkles.. but i may have to change
I feel like there’s more cars in the game that would give you a competitive advantage vs boots or in game items.
i liked using the monsoon boost bcs of how really noticeable it is n just tapping it can make someone fall for the fake
i’ve had one problem with grass boost in the past two weeks. the guy on the other team went off my corner after grabbing my boost. he was super far away from the ball after resetting on the ceiling so i didn’t think he was gonna hit it, so i set myself up for a long clear. heard the boost sound as soon as i jumped and got shit on😭 proceeded to say “FUCKING GRASS BOOST” in chat and he said “ahaha sorry bro”
I know it's basically impossible because of region difference, but its a dream of mine to see my 3 favorite players (Squishy, Lethamyr, and Flakes) team up in some sort of competitive scenario. I think it would be magical.
4:20 in volleyball it's called a mating play but idk if rocket league is ready for term.
Hey Leth - how bout a custom map where the goal activates / deactivates every second or so . Alternately, a gate on the goal opens or closes. Maybe it's already been done. Popped into my head last night and figured I'd share. Thanks for the content!
I have mained bubble boost for years to not blind myself in specific aerial angles where I feel other boosts could obscure the view🤷♂️ Never heard anyone say it’s harder to read when I’m boosting though, it’s just more spread out so that you can see through it.
Idk, maybe iv’e been cheating all this time🗿
Leth is either using bubbles or he’s out of boost, can’t tell 😂
Black grass is so much worse and that was shop only
even though sideswipe doesn't have much of a pro player spectrum, if you tap boost and not hold it the autumn boost is impossible to see
squishy already into his content days!
Leth Ive got a video idea for a prank, if possible you could make the game give scores anytime an action happens (shot on net, saves, center etc.) and then not tell anyone
The entire back of your car lights up. They can just make it brighter. I’ve used bubbles for years because I feel it does give me an advantage but does it really? Can we not actually see it or is it placebo?
Meanwhile in sideswipe there is the grey rock boost where you pretty much see nothing
I have been using it for years and I can’t even realise it is there so it dosent get in the way when I’m going up for air dribbles or Ariel’s
was it just me that noticed what leth said at 4:40
Everyone has access to these boosts, so nobody gets an unfair advantage. All pros can use it if they want.
Bubbles, yes, but not black ion or black grass boost
@@Lethamyrwell let’s take a look here. In general play, everybody uses different boosts and trails, and cars, if someone has an advantageous boost, people will start using a boost that does the same thing. If it was that big of an issue, there are still several ways to recognize boost use. Sound cue, momentum gain, trails, and if they pick up a large boost and see small boosts being picked up by them. While I do think it offers a slight advantage, it’s something that anybody can use, does not matter if they don’t have black grass or ion because bubbles is free. They all do the same thing. Personally I don’t think it should be banned, rather, I think it adds another layer to the many mechanics you have to learn. It also makes you focus on smaller details. I think it’s fine for pros, especially since most aren’t using it. Should we ban karmine kickoffs because people can’t tell what they’ll do? No. Both karmine kickoffs and this boost are a preplanned advantage made by a team. The other team also has access to this advantage. That’s my opinion, but I’m open to new ideas
if you guys wanna try it out the boost sparkles in black is almost invisible
I actually use the grass boost lol. It helps me see the backend of my car better when in the air
It only becomes a problem when it isn’t available to every player who wants it. They should come up with a feature where, if a player wants a certain boost, they can get it from another player…
I used bubbles for so long but never thought it was actually useful lol
And I thought all the plain octanes/fennecs were too sweaty.
Why is no one talking about how they just nerfed bubbles slightly recently and added that rocket/flash to bubbles to show when it's boosting?
Squishy carrying leth lmaoo
If the competitors haven't played enough to get most boosts others have, then they aren't experienced enough to play in RLCS.
Didn't know Squishy could play more than 2 games at a time on RUclips 😂
Watching you miss that boost, made me feel so good. I do it all the time except I’m trash.😢
Your fake challenges won’t work as well if they can’t see you boosting
Bubbles is more visible! Black ion is since the beginning the invisible boost
I use Manhattan exclusively as my boost, clean, nice sounding, no trail at all :)
S11 Silver boost is also pretty invisible when feathering
I am using bubbles since i got the game 4 yrs ago lmao. And then there is leth telling me this could be banned in rlcs.
This is an interesting topic which extends far beyond just boost visuals!
My personal rule of thumb is that this type of "advantage" is fine so long as:
- (req 1) it does NOT specifically target an individual player
- (req 2) it does NOT come at the expense of the audience
So I am OK with:
- Players using short names to get a smaller, more eclipsable nameplate.
- A 2v2 octane + fennec team swapping engine sounds halfway through a multi-game series.
But I am NOT OK with:
- Players using decals of the opposite team's color to confuse opponents, because this may also confuse the audience (violation of req 2).
- Players buying an identical model of their opponent's headset and listening to all engine sounds and determine which is least audible (violation of req 1)
- Given a colorblind opponent, using a car designed to camouflage itself against their particular form of colorblindness (violation of req 1, potential violation of req 2)
This makes me NOT OK with the "boost advantage" because it comes as the expense of the audience (violation of req 2).
I think an appropriate fix would be to give spectator client the option to visually force standard boost on all cars.
As someone who has used bubbles since the game came out (because it's funny) I love that it's becoming meta lol
Sparkle boost because it doesn’t sound like a lawnmower. It sounds like poopy I like it!
Figured this out years ago but I just don't like not seeing my own boost
MANHATTAN boost in black is almost invisible to others
With BM you can anonymise your opponents and they appear with standard boost
I don’t play rocket league but I’m surprised that people are even allowed to use customized cars in professional play
I've used the Black Ion boost since pretty much the game release for this very reason :D
the RCA boost with breakout is insanely hard to see
Dude I’m diamond and I knew this. I used to use a grey orbital boost and it’s nearly completely invisible.
My argument here is surely having thousands of hours makes you able to see people moving at speed or even expectation of play?? But if it works, I'm all for it
The grass boost in RLCS was soooo annoying to listen to. About half way through the first game I had to mute. I understand they get an advantage with hard to see boosts but if I was Epic/Psyonics I would be more worried about the fact 100,000 people are watching with no audio because of how annoying some of the boosts sound. I guess it's Psyonic's fault for adding in so many of those "annoying" boosts. Yeah it's funny to troll people for a game or 2 but when the pros are using it in their most watched series it may be an issue.
I'll use the silver season reward from last season from time to time as it's also really hard to see.
you have to tap the bubble boost and there is no visible graphics if you thought this was an unfair boost
I've been using black Ion for so long now, the main reason is because its invisible lol
I use black ion through BM because it's objectively better for visibility
Just force everyone to use the same boost type
I firmly believe that if everyone has access to a certain item, it is definitely not cheating and should be allowed in competitive play …
Imo this is the same as Riot and skins.
They need to rework them or ban in competitive. People will use everything to get an advantage and its on the devs to balance it
Congrats to the GOAT's Retirement!!!
Grass is crazy
I have and use the black ion all the time! I always said it was OP for years
Leth, is it possible to make a game where there's like a hundred new spawns. Love to see that