Jouissance (6 of 7) : Enjoyment of hate

Enjoyment can represent a type of stasis, an impediment to change, certainly so in the clinical situation, where we precisely enjoy our symptoms and don't really wish to give them up. We ask about jouissance - the gratification of suffering - in Freud's controversial Dora case. There is a type of double-bonding of jouissance, where we give way to the temptation to enjoy (and are thereby often bonded to others enjoying in the same way) and then experience guilt afterwards, which is precisely the effect of the superego enjoying. We think about Lacan's idea of the superego as both that which represents the law and the breaking of the law, and give examples of those activities where the id and the superego can - unexpectedly - both to be gratified in the same act.
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[@Promethalus]

One person must have enjoyed hating this talk. Instead, I gave it a gratifying thumbs up!

[@jonathonray6198]

Thinking about that person hating the clip allowed your statement to give you a little jouissance. And me showing up and trumping your comment gives me some jouissance. What do we do? Ahh well. I’m a winner and loser baby.

[@nickwood1330]

Isn’t it clear that superego and jouissance are kind of part of each other in the sense that the guilt you talked about experiencing when you enjoy is actually a part of the jouisssance itself - it’s what makes it jouissance rather than simple enjoyment - and then that guilt reinforces the superego .. jouissance has to push up against the superego to sustain itself, which then feeds into a strengthening of the superego. Does this make sense or not?! So then I guess there’s the question of the superego experiencing jouissance at our suffering, or something! This is bending my mind slightly.

[@garretbarnwell8099]

Dear Prof Hook, thank you for these lectures! They are amazing and I've slowly been making my way through them. I am busy writing a paper on different forms of activism, and jouissance seems essential to understanding struggles (I have only recently found my way to Lacanian psychoanalysis but enjoying your applications to postcoloonial thought and through this also trying to work through Fanon). You mentioned, jouissance as something that is important for struggles but can lead to the "revolution eating its own children". The lecture seems to be weighted towards the dangers of jouissance...but what necessitates jouissance in a revolution/struggle and then can we not say that it is also important considering that it is about trangressing laws/norms that may be unjust/oppressive? It sounds also like you teeter on speaking about decolonial love (mentioning agape as the transformative force in relation to jouissance). Do you have any other lectures that you speak to this or your articles that you could refer me to? I also just bought your "A critical psychology and the postcolonial". Appreciae the work and I do hope that you do the same style of lectures for you decolonial/postcolonial work! Much respect and greatings from South Africa.