Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 4 vs. Adios Pro 3 | Should I Upgrade?
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
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Yay, an honest review from someone that wasn’t sent to Berlin by Adidas!
We get where you’re coming from, but also we never can get out to do cool things which is sometimes disappointing.
@@DoctorsofRunning I know but know we trust your reviews more than anyone. That will benefit you guys more in the long run with the running community. Hope that helps.
@@itsahardmuttlife9263I see what you did there with the “Hope that helps” ;)
They should have been sent to Berlin wym
@@jesustsa1 It’s probably better they didn’t so they can give an honest review.
Agree with all of this and confirm to go a half size up. Felt fine in workouts, but my big toes slamming into that bumper paid the price by the end of the Berlin Marathon. Definitely comes even more alive the faster you go, pretty fun shoe in that respect! - R
No issues with the Evo SL in terms of going true to size or is it better in the end to go up half size with the one as well? The limited release it coming later this month.
Good review!!!
Have a feeling pro 4 will be softer, faster and more aggressive
Love pro 3, as heavier more muscular than typical runners its perfect cruiser for me, dream if they put new upper on pro 3 midsole and called 3.5 😅
The review i was looking for! Balanced, honest, objective. Thanks. Need some stability for pronation in later miles of a marathon, so will stick to the v3 (and VFN2 for 5/10k). Thanks again Matt
The only channel that tells me what supershoes work best for my arch/ medial ankle support needs. I guess I’ll stick with Adios Pro 3. Also Endorphin Elite are my all time favorite marathon shoes, and I bought those based on your recommendation. So there’s definitely a good amount of trust I place in your videos.
I ran a marathon this past week in the Pro 4 (not in Berlin) with a time of 2:39, and I can confirm that these shoes are very aggressive. Unlike the Pro 3's, which are versatile enough for both training and racing, I would reserve the Pro 4's strictly for race day. I'm planning to buy a few more pairs of Pro 3's for training, as I find the Pro 4's best suited for peak performance (this may change).
If you're a runner with a bouncy, supple running style and gait, the Pro 4's will complement that. However, where I felt they might fall short is in mid-foot stability, similar to the Pro 2’s, especially with the cut-out section on the bottom. That said, the outsole is a dream for runners-offering great traction and even handling light gravel with ease. I really appreciate the improvements in the pro 4s
For me, these shoes seem ideal for a fast half marathon, although I did use them for a full marathon. They really started to warm up in the second half of the race. So far, I’ve put about 50km into them, including the marathon, and I might update my thoughts once I’ve logged more mileage.
Like the 3 because the stability.
I trust this guy so much. I dont know why. Love your videos
Thanks Matt, the Pro 3 has probably been my favorite plated shoe so I'm looking forwards to the 4 (also the hoodie is sweet). I guess I am getting tired of this "we are going to release 50 pairs so we can get around world athletics and the rest of the people have to wait" thing, Saucony did it with the Endorphin Elite 2, Adidas is doing it with the Pro Evo 1 and now this (and the Evo SL but that's different), I mean come on, the rest of us have marathons this fall too
Indeed, seems like they're leaving money on the table.
Getting the 3 on a deep sale price is great value for a marathon session and long run shoe
Won’t be rushing out for the 4 since the 3 is almost perfect and if the 4 lacks the stability of the 3 then that could be an issue… traction on the 3 on wet rainy roads was awesome, my go to shoe for wet races as was like a ninja cheating code ….
Great vid. Used 3 in long training runs and some daily mileage to protect legs during block. Bruising from lace bite and traction an issue. Midsole versatile enough to use well below marathon pace which outweighed the negative of it underperforming at 5k pace. Glad to see a better outsole while dropping weight. Hopefully that tongue improved as well. Nike AF 3 would be hard to supplant as marathon racer.
Excellent review, detailed and objective
interesting that you got such a different experience with the pro 3.
I would describe them as really agressive and also suitable for 5k and 10k races (did a solid 37 minute last week over 10k distance)
With the cuts in the midsole and the details all around the shoe, the pro 3 is, for me, a much better look shoe.
Yeah the more i run in my saucony pro 4 the more i notice that mid foot cut out on the pro 3. I think 15 miles plus it really tires my ankles.
Imo adidas should have filled that gap in especially as its more a shoe for everyday runners.
Great heel and forefoot guidance, but collapsing at midfoot, hmmm. Puma ForeverRun: hello 😂
Still great to hear for a forefoot runner! I love the forefoot stability that AP3 provided.
i am upgrading as i love adidas shoes
Sounds like v4 is much better for Vaporfly enjoyers.
Or Alphafly users…
I dont understand how softer shoe can be faster/whirt energy roads, and that term "bounce" is very very important ,example Takumi is not "bounce" but is very fast shoe...bounce is fan factor
Great detailed and honest review as always! How is the heel counter compared with Takumi Sen 8-9, Boston 12 and Adios 8? Those worked great for me, but Adios Pro 3 shredded back of my Achilles to blisters. How is the midsole ride and bounce compared to Deviate Nitro Elite 3?
I wonder about the heel too, Pro 3 (as well as Prime X Strung) gave me terrible blisters in the heel, which I never had before (Takumi Sen 9) was ok. But if v4 is less wide in the forefoot that may rule it out for me anyways.
The rough stitching in my Pro 3 did the same to my achilles. Just fold the little heel flap inwards, and it covers the rough stitching and blisters should be no more. I've now got 1300km out of mine, but wanted to throw them away when I had the heel rub issue.
@matthanna1980 thanks, I tried folding the flap, but still too much play...
I like Adidas, but their rockers aren't dramatic enough for my taste, and I don't think their toe boxes are narrow enough.
Honest Review 👌
Interesting note on sizing. My US12 is a EU 46 2/3 and it felt roomy. If I had higher arches I would have considered half size down. Puma US12 is a EU 46 and it fits perfect. I guess I’m a US11 2/3 then
I ran two Comrades in the Pro3s, where the stability saves you in the later stages of the ultra. But prefer the Pro2 for marathon and 21s as they are easier to maintain speed in. It sounds like the Pro4s are more similar to the P2s?
of course we should upgrade
sounds like version 2, it was faster for me, not as stable as 3 and more aggressive.
@@tav4755 agreed! But v4 is also much lighter!
I have size 13 feet and the AP3 is noticeably on the too heavy side for a race shoe. The AP4 should be in the ballpark of 240g rather than 280g and that puts it back to the weight of a Zoom Streak 7 or a Vaporfly which is where it needs to be. Interestingly the Takumi Sen 10 is also 240g in my size.
I have AP3 with a lot of life left in them but eventually I will get the AP4.
I have UK13 (US14) feet, and completely agree. This is the primary reason I use the Pro 3 more as a trainer, and the Vaporfly (V1 or V2) as my racer. For me, it's 250g Vs. 290g, so easy decision. Looks like the Pro 4 will address that.
Please review Adizero Evo SL!
@@wonkydonkey7899 unfortunately we got passed for those but hoping to grab a pair for review when they come out!
That translucent outsole looks like what the Big Chinese brands are using. Xtep CPU for example.
we need that hoka mach x 2 review!!
Just bought a pair wow 👌 prefer them to my addidas pro three
@@samgentle3007 amazing! i just ordered mine today, excited to test it out. did you have any issues with the heel?
@@harpxeal3869 I know! We are interested in trying them but haven’t heard anything!
So Pro 4 is not good option for person that has Posterior Tibial Tendon Problems?
@@justoutlaw6423 probably not based on the midfoot
Very interesting! I don't suppose you have any good methods to establish where you need medial stability (forefoot/midfoot/heel)? Just trial and error? I just know im neutral midfoot striker who need some medial stability. Enjoyed the v3 massively on your recommendation. Thabks!
good question
Version 4 goes better with my outfits. So it gets my vote.
I have v2 and it squeaked after 150km. I heard V3 and Primes squeaking too. You have 2 pairs of 3s that is over 250km, any squeak? I think its the exposed rods, maybe collecting water or rubbing against the foam
Been enjoying the AP3 as a long run shoe. Just completed a 4th half marathon and enjoyed trying the AP3. Want to do a second marathon next year, feeling the AP3 might be the way to go - not being a super experienced distance runner. Why does Adidas keep messing with their sizing!
i have version 3 in size 12 and is great but fit a litle longer than usual i want o buy the pro 4 so i need o use size 12 Int the 4 worked fine w thick socks but not w thin socks
The 4 is more stable would you say?
Matt....the Endo Pro 4 wasn't stable enough for me for races. What do you suggest? (I had a break in my left foot that will forever cause me pain/issues).
@@Ginguredrunner depends on what you need! Endorphin elite has larger sidewalls and a stiffer platform, Hoka Cielo x1 has a strong lateral bias for those that need midfoot stability and the Hoka rocket x2 if stiff with large sidewalls (but low drop so watch your calves)!
@@DoctorsofRunning I was thinking the Ceilo as my next buy...so will probably go that route. Thanks for the info!
What is the rocker/toespring like? When I tried the AP3, I felt the transition was rather unnatural, very on/off sort of feeling - unlike most other supershoes I tried, where the rocker feels a lot more gradual and a lot less noticeable. Based on photos of AP4, it looks like the toespring angle is reduced a bit and the tipping point of the rocker is smoothed out - but I wonder how much you can actually feel it in reality.
Thank you so much for your review brother. Would you please tell me that, my feet size is=25.5 cm.
I basically use vaporfly next%2 is 26.5 cm, Saucony endorphin pro2-26.5 cm. I never used Adidas brand before. But, i heard that their size little bit big in size. So please ensure my brother that, What size can be the good comfortable for adios pro 4, if my feet size is 25.5 cm. I would appreciate. Thanks again!❤🧡
Loving these neutral reviews 👍🏻
How accommodating are these shoes for people with wider/splaying forefeet, and higher arches?
I bet this adios pro 4 will be around for at least 2 years so I don't see anyone not upgrading that's even semi serious about running and has the Pro3s.
Hi Are u planing do review on diadora gara ?
@@Maximilian745 Matt keeps looking for a pair on eBay but we don’t have any connection with Diadora at this time! We hear it is an interesting shoe!
Take my money Adidas!
Version 4 was to long. Great for long runs.
The LS pro in the 2022 pro 3 is different than what they are using in 2024. 2024 is not as firm.
I been thinking about this, they made minor tweaks to the AP3, inner logo AP3 are different than the inner 3 stripes AP3, maybe comparing a 2024 AP3 with the AP4 would be different, idk.