Summary: Since the 2008 crisis, China's economy has doubled whereas the US grew only 10%, hence China's rise must be considered with imminence. (4:28) China has been a civilisational-state for 2000 years, and a nation-state for 120 years. Hence it enjoys strong cultural inheritance and values that unites despite a political tolerance of differences. (8:41) Chinese governance is judged by west as unsustainable and repressive, but actually enjoys widespread support and.legitimacy due to: (9:51) 1. State is seen as guardian and embodiment of society (inconceivable for US) 2. Governance drawn from family: emperor must rule as a good father. 3. long history of meritocracy. (11:26) China throughout history has not been expansionary and externalised (like European colonialism). The expression of their "universalism" (or superiority complex/ national pride) was very centred on China, geographically and culturally. (14:35) China has not had a war-mongering history. Rather "the Tribute system" guided Chinese politics for 3000 years, where cultural power was valued over military power; member states had to recognise superiority of the middle Empire and Confucian values, and did not subjugate themselves economically. (18:05) China will have much greater proportional economic power than the US did even at its zenith as a superpower. By 2030, China may have twice the percentage of GDP as the US and 1/3 that of the Global GDP (assuming uninterrupted projections). Compare the British Empire, where at its height the UK accounted for only 8.5% of Global GDP and yet controlled 20% of the world. [[note that Jacques doesn't mention the English Raj (India) accounted for about 12% global GDP in 1870]] (22:10) China views itself as having a unique, strategic role with developing countries, and places great importance on developing future economic alliances with them (as opposed to the US that has strategically formed alliances with wealthier nations). (28:11) Belt and road is the largest, most protracted and most ambitious project in human history. It is difficult to predict how much it will transform the world, China's international relations and Asian governance structures. Noticeably, Japan, India and the US have boycotted the project. (33:48) Some criticisms have surfaced from several countries involved in Belt and Road that they have over-indebted themselves. Greed, corruption and/or impulsiveness have compromised local projects and countries' ability to repay. (37:08) The centre of gravity of the global economy is shifting from somewhere between Europe and America (in 1980) to the China/India border (as we move towards 2030) (39:50) China does not place the same importance on military spending and expansion as the US (or Russia) does. (40:51) China does not impose itself politically or meddle, they remain politically "agnostic". (41:13) The US cannot stop the rise of China and must come to terms with it as a superpower. (43:26) China now competes as a serious global player in technology and innovation. A trade war that isolates US industry from this dynamism might lead to US technological stagnation. (47:07) the US must adapt to China as a peer and find a balance between cooperation and rivalry, not merely defensiveness.
@@AniishAu I think he means the UK, not the British Empire as a whole. There are estimates that the UK accounted for just over 9% while India accounted for 12% in 1870
@@tsim4703 thanks, I see your point now. According to Wkp the Raj was 50% of the GDP of the empire in 1870. Though Martin doesn't fudge the data, he's certainly not painting the full picture.
@@AniishAu But he's not wrong though. At the end of the day India, despite being a colony, was ruled by Indians. And that means the wealth India generated means nothing to Britain unless that wealth can be transferred back. Think of it like a parent company. When you own a subsidiary, that sub is useless to the parent company unless the sub's profits trickle up to the parent company. The thing with colonialism was that the end goal was for profits and raw materials to flow back to the colonizer. If it doesn't, it provides very little benefit to the colonizer country.
Oh that womans ego jumping at the chance of every commentary to show she knows stuff and has been to China came out really desperate, let the expert talk please. She adds nothing to the talk.
So true. I mean surely she knows a huge amount, yet to constantly add to the questions posed to him, not to her, is just plainly rude and wrong. Judging from her position she is probably bothered by the fact he is a white male.
Its one year later now, and to answer her question, can China stands up to the US pressure? I think the answer is other way around from what she wanted.
After listening to the Q&A segment; I wonder whats the point of inviting Martin to give the speech in the first place. The talk title is "What China Will Be Like As A Great Power" and the moderator and audience questions are of the usual pointed ones of scrutinizing the country with western lens. Criticism of the country's authoritarian governance is as valid as ever, but please do it constructively with respect to the topic of discussion?
I agree that the moderator was disruptive and rude, but I can understand the audience's questions because the talk's title wasn't directly addressed; in my opinion. The speaker's presentation was very insightful with regard to China's culture and perspective, but didn't give much insight on how it might interact with the rest of the world as a great power. The presentation gave me the impression that the world just had to come to terms with however China decides to act. I'm sure the whole world, not just the west, is anxious about how ethically China will project its influence as it grows. China has shown that it will not conform to the current global standard of ethics and business practices. Will it continue to bully its opposition and undermine global trade agreements? What might happen when no other powers can significantly pressure China economically? With China on track to become the the world's economic superpower for the foreseeable future, and its extremely effective single party government, will it expect the world to comply with the expectations it has set for its citizens? For example, far fetched as it may be, could we be expected to participate in a global social credit system to access Chinese based services or financial products?
@@JohnSmith-sf8ms What difference does it make if it's a shit Iphone or Samsung or X .. Given all these vicious corporate entities are all engaged in the same destructive practices. After all where does the Cadmium other precious metal required to make such fancy (crap) come from? Under what conditions? Who pays?
@@AudioPervert1 Please take my previous comment as an attempt at satire. Regarding your question, I'm afraid I cannot answer. I am no business owner and I have not done any research on labor work conditions in each countries. However, on industrial civilization being unsustainable and a harm to global environment, I have to agree with you on that part.
I agree with many of his views. However I am wary of the fact that what he said echos too closely with what the Chinese society teaches us about ourselves. Namely that we are a peaceful civilization, tribute vs conquest, desire to stay at home, etc. Perhaps those views are spot on, I hope they are, but it could also be complacency and self-reassurance from a Chinese point-of-view. Jacques is following those lines too closely, and that's what worries me: that he lacks insights. He did convey the Chinese world view accurately and serves an introductory role for westerners though.
I'm not so sure Hong Kong and Tibet agree with his views on China's insular and non-militant "stay-at-home" nature. That's to say nothing of the Uyghur Muslim issue.
As a Chinese born Mongolian, a minority, I do not feel Han, but I do not feel sad or my culture is being suppressed. I believe any well-educated minority knows that Chinese culture has been influenced by minorities' culture, meanwhile, in Mongolia, even our own culture is changing as well. Just be open-minded and accept culture fusion.
as a born Han,we culture has been greatly influenced by Mongolian too,especially for the peoole and their cultures from northern part of China as once the ancient China was a part of Mongolian empire.and we biologically has the blood of Mongolian too.but we are still Han by any means.
Among those so-called China experts I have watched in RUclips, Professor Jacques is the best scholar in this area. He is one of the rare species of the West to speak the truth with facts on China issues.
46 minutes in and I still haven't heard him mention forced technology transfer (the driving and essential element to China stealing the centre of world innovation) as the price to gain access to the Chinese market. That is criminal plain and simple (not free market, but, literally a mafia tactic) and if major corporations and companies cannot see the dire consequences of unearned Chinese advances the US government needs to step in and make it a criminal offence - and contrary to US national security interests... see what he says in the second half, but, am not expecting any real honesty.
The Host is more than a little intrusive .... she doesn't seem to grasp the concept of ASKING the questions and letting the guest ANSWER them - without interruption.
I'm a Chinese, I've been working and living with a few western people for many years, but there is one thing I learned from them: they feel very upset when they heard Chinese people say that they don't understand China...
My experience is the opposite. In general, Westerners are self-reproachful to a fault. They'll gleefully admit they don't know about China, denigrate their own country and its people and put Chinese people on a pedestal. Whereas in China, the blind loyalty to the state indoctrinated into its citizens at a young age leads to a strong strain of 玻璃心 - if you were to tell a Chinese person they don't understand the West, many would see it as an affront to all Chinese people. Anything that might be perceived as the slightest critique of how things are done in China so often gets interpreted as an attack on all Chinese people.
@@huyifan83 Social media platforms are not an apt measuring stick with which to judge a culture. It's a largely controlled platform and certain sections will inevitably attract more of certain types of users than others - many of which are funneled there through activist groups, many others are shills, bots, trolls, etc. Then you've got algorithm manipulation and selective censorship which further skews things.
I have just "discovered" this guy. I am 76 years old and 5 years ago I went to China for the first time. I spent 6 weeks travelling all over China staying in cheap Chinese hotels and mixing with ordinary Chinese people. It fundamentally changed my western thinking especially about democracy and communism. I now think about government in terms of what it delivers to its people. I agree with nearly everything this man says. The biggest threat to the world comes from the dysfunctional USA not from China. We in Australia and New Zealand need to understand that the Chinese mean us no harm and we need to encourage our leaders to think independently of our own countries future's and not just follow the USA propaganda like a flock of sheep.
@Doomsday Clown Nice to meet someone else who has an open mind and looks at the whole picture. All the democratic rights in the world are no use to ordinary people if their government does not deliver personal health, safety and freedom from hunger. Too much of western thinking about China is dominated by the bad parts of Mao's reign and the events of Tiananmen Square instead of looking at the present day China.
Bullshit, the CCP are very bad for this world, they act like damn children all the time if they don't get there way. While most of the population may be decent, the CCP is far from it. They want everyone to bow down to them which will never happen, i would die before that.
Infrastructure doesn't make money itself. China spent a huge amount of resources on infrastructure and there's no way to make all that back from train tickets or highway tolls. But they benefit the country in such a way that all other aspect of its economy starts running at accelerated speed, increasing the country's productivity like what we saw happened in China in the last few decades, so that a socialist country like China can redirect its state resources to even out the giant whole it digged when building all the infrastructure and move ahead with its development. It required a great vision and extraordinary sense of mission from the country's leadership to pull out something like this. But not every country in the belt road thingy has this kind of leadership, or a political system that would allow such an allocation of wealth for improved growth; people look at an expensive rail road project and say no, the investment won't be recovered from train ticket sales, and start calling it a debt trap. The fact is that China itself never recovered from the infrastructure investments, not by selling train tickets at least, but by speeding up the country in every other way.
Allow me to add some points and correct something as well: China is NEVER a socialist country, but rather a centrally planned capitalist country. The wealth disparity is just too great to justify the socialist label. Despite the mandatory and free education, there is quite a bit of loopholes in fairness of quality of education.While other areas of a socialist country is barely existent in China. Indeed it require great vision and leadership, but credits has to be given to the social norm that 'The few sacrifice is for the greater good'. The push for infrastructure always comes with high cost for some residents, while it undoubtedly benefited many, these residents lost their homes without decent compensation due to *corruption* and yes a huge sum is allocated as compensation(for the Three Gorges dam), but if 20% reaches the resident after passing many officials, they will be consider lucky(The resident are often threatened as well, the name of removal team literally means forcefully demolition team(强拆队). The resentment from resident does exist, but generally accepted as their sacrifice is for the greater good. This is a quality not seen as often in the West, where relatives of a buried deceased can refuse to let the body to be moved for a HS2 railway, essentially a grave costing HS2 millions a day in operational cost. The debt trap idea is actually misunderstood. This is because a lot of countries that China invested in MAY not need the capacity of the infrastructure. Ex. A second airport that barely have passengers flows or highways that are rarely used. These can actually be considered a 'debt trap' since the project benefit is not fully evaluated and most likely corruption involved. However, others contested investment such as the Sri Lankan port is just a smear, since the positive return is imminent to the surrounding area and a second port there will defiantly relief pressure on the first, so while some porjects are questionable, majority are insanely beneficial, because it allows Africa to partially skip the cost of industrialisation. A small example: Trains. From trains tracks to drivers, it cost money to train and build, but China is offering great opportunities and ease in achieving these goals, saving money for the African nations.
@Huang Chengjun While it is good, it has emerge that China is over building infrastructure in order to keep employment and GDP up. A lot of highways are abondoned and railways literally running parallel to each other when one is perfectly capable of handling the capacity leaving the other not economically efficient. Hopefully this changes soon, or the demand collapse can hit a lot of people in construction.
@@YinZhiLong China's infrastructure construction is far from enough, and it needs to continue in the future ...Poverty alleviation, building and improving infrastructure, and developing the economy ... they are not contradictory，In fact they are a whole, they complement each other...
This is the first time I heard somebody trying to explain China from the Chinese historical aspect, and also from philosophical point of view, i.e Confucianism. Confucianism is the core of China and in fact, still a core value for many ethnic Chinese in South-East Asia, which is almost a total opposite of the high value placed on individualism in Western countries. Hence, we can’t expect China and the Chinese people to behave, think or conduct their affairs like Western countries and societies do. Thank you, Mr Jacques.
When Martin Jacques was talking, I saw someone who thought hard and deep about things around him. I can even feel his frustration when he ran into an obstacle on his journey of thinking and equally the jubilation when he finally thought through it. I respect him because he thinks. When that woman moderator opened her mouth, I saw nothing. Nil. Zilch.
I actually think the questions she brought up enriched Martin's argument. The reporter's perspective is so dominant in the West and therefore MANY people will have the same questions as she did. Plus I think she's very well-read in terms of what has happened in China
Her knowledge of China are too shallow and she got all those info about China from western media. She is just an ordinary reporter no different from the rest.
It takes two to play tennis. She's there to provide a counterpoint to Jacques' argument. It's boring and pointless to hear two people agreeing with each other. We just heard Jacques' excellent monologue, a view which I happen to agree with, why not listen to what his opponents have to say?
@@賴志偉-d7h It is ironic that she is not just an one, very high percentage of people in the world missunderstanding the real China that have more than 25% of population of the world, and you are one of them. you still live within your illusions that is why Chinese called you Frog in the well or corrupted generation
That woman is insufferably condescending and her constant interruptions really detracted from the flow of the whole Q&A. Also did she literally ask a man in a wheelchair to stand up?
@@johnsonter1358 And the USA hasn't. Jesus bro look around. The states have pissed off its enemies and allies alike. The presidential election is being held between warmonger and warmonger lite, and strangely Trump hasn't started his own war..yet. Though he is a disgrace on just about everything else. Including lying about covid despite knowing how bad it was ahead of time. See the bob woodward tapes about it.
I very much look forward to China as a super power. China as a "oppressive" regime has managed to raise the living standards of its citizens by an enormous rate while beging pretty nice to its neighbors. The US on the other hand, as a democratic nation has brought misery and destruction to about 1/3 of the world including its own citizens.
shucky,, you are a fool ,,,7% of Chinese have a passport,,,, only,,,, opressed are its people,,, the Han are only from 25% of its land mass,1 billion still shit in an outside toilet,,, yeah living standards are great,, the city folk are being fed chemicals in their dailyfeed,,, yum yum,,,the living standards you talk about are mainly the city folk who have benefited by intelectual theft on and in manufacturing which is being hampered now,,, this will no doubt continue the actual decline in Chinese overall living standards of the greater population in the future as mechinization replace the need for the cheap Chinese rural labour force. I hope you also enjoy a future of being able to travel abroad based on your "social credits" as designed by the party of no choice
Craig Arnold do you have first hand knowledge? I have never been in China, but my sister has. In my statement I'm referring to what she told me. I've been in the US and I find that the US has many attributes of a third world nation. I visited about 20 countries so far. Where do you get your insight from?
@@craigarnold9005 How pathetic is the words of an armchair commentator who never step out from the comfort of his home and giving opinions on a country he never set foot on with a view grossly in line with what's being fed to him by CNN and Fox news network. FYI ,10% of Chinese left China as tourists numbering 150 millions last year and the same 150 millions of them had returned to China. So get your data right before you start throwing distorted figures that depict your ignorance and lack of proper research on subjects you know nuts about...
I have to say, she is letting too much of her own bias to take over the conversation. And it is becoming unpleasant in the end. A host is supposed to take a neutral standpoint.
Henry Kater you just do not know the history, that is it ! His profound knowledge shows everything, he read more than you , thinking more than you and of course more correct than you! Me as a chinese can not agree with him more, wven the big problem china has now , he said very correctly, let us see this vedio back again after 15 years
The woman is focusing more on the specific problems that minorities are facing such as oppression etc but professor jacques is focused on the general idea, its whole cause and effect of what China had been, has become and will becoming .
Professor Jacques' speech is informative and educational as always. The moderator, however, is a total disaster. She is a walking example of how arrogant and ignorant the West is about China. She proves professor Jacques' whole point in the speech. She will keep "sleep-walking into oblivion".
@@gregh7457 mate. she's definitely not one person. even just on RUclips these debates and conferences have moderators with built-in hate for us Chinese
I wonder where Martin Jacques got his wisdom ;-) After living and teaching there for 15 years, I never doubted the progress and its pace under proper leadership (one might call it inspired management). My near 30.000 students have convinced me of that early on!
Bravo Martin Jacques bravo. It is refreshing to hear this topic spoken with such intelligence, honesty, and yet, he was always being delicate/tactful in his comparisons. I am a student of history and, for me, China has been included in this for over 60 years now. I have been doing extensive research, consider the source. Throughout my 71 years, the US State Dept's "hate China" campaign has been a constant and along with this, the populations lock-step knowledge. There is "joke", and surely not synched, in many of the articles or videos. The authors/speakers describe China as "the 2nd largest economy", rather funny to some of us. Investments from the invisible privileged elite is "pouring" into China where over 1/3 of ALL the world's construction will be done this year. The privileged elite are sending their grandchildren to China to learn Mandarin (and see a glimpse of the future). .. .. "Traveling to China can feel like visiting the future. Nowhere is this feeling more apparent than on China’s high-speed railway network." A quote from a recent article about China..
how so? her job as an interviewer is to challenge his claims and force him to defend them. I only once heard her say something stupid and it actually had nothing to do with China but with Europe.
I think she is being correctly critical, but her outlook is typical PC arguments, failing to consider the practical side of developing workable solutions. I think it is hard to deal with antagonism, religions feel toward US dominance, which is then translated to China's difficulties. This is is not a small argument.
@@2drealms196 what he is saying is that at least one of the original source of violence was the CIA support of Tibetan uprising at a time US didn't want any communist country to raise in power.
A small entity like Tibet even if comes out of China's grip would still be beholden to the wishes of US or the West that is striving for its freedom for its own vested interests. As we all know US never gives a hoot about freedom. It believes in "either you are with us or with or enemies".
@john bo don't complain next time Iran sends weapons to irak to kill US soldiers and don't complain if other countries send weapons to native Americans to kill white people... Oh the irony...
I think the biggest misconception the western civilization have of China, is China is ruled under "Communism". Just the same reason why people think Chinese practices Confucianism. The biggest strength of Chinese culture, and the only reason Chinese civilization survived thousands of years, is the ability to adapt and merge. Modern Confucianism has many traits of Faism, among other political philosophies. Which has ideals directly conflicting with traditional Confucianism. The reason Chinese still use terminologies from Communism and Socialism, is to prevent drastic social breakdown like what USSR went through. But in reality, Chinese has adapted much from Capitalism. And created a structure transcended Communism years ago when Deng announced reformation. And the biggest conflict China faces since the first contact from British industrialist fleets, to 2019. Is the west imposes their ideology and structures on to China, and tell the Chinese, "This is how you have to live, and this is how we expect you to behave." And in the context of modernization of social structure, and in a constructive form, new ideas and practice is welcomed. But when imposed? Who do you think you are?
The so-called 5,000 civilizations in mainland China just use very logical and perfect moral slogans. In the long river of history, fraud, theft, and hypocrites who have inconsistent words and deeds, such a nation should completely break its hypocritical appearance and give complete The soul blow, not just the body, gives the most hypocritical oracle bone civilization on the earth the biggest and thorough civilization blow, reducing their influence, reducing the territory they control, and reducing their wealth and power. Make them reflect on their words and deeds. Dirty Chinese culture. It is entirely possible to delete it on Earth.
This remarkable man has been hammering our Western heads about Chinas rise for a long while. Years ago he was on a mission to prepare us for this new world order. Today he is like 'I told you so, are you ready?'
Thank you Mr Jacques for sharing this great speech. You really have a profound knowledge and understanding of Chinese history and culture. I think China not only adopts Confucianism to define common standards for the society and families, but also follows Taoism philosophy for governing the country.
He is a British socialist so that he's very interested in China's rise as an incredible example of the very few successes of socialist countries that are surviving Western conversion.
China govt has been pushing some pre-communist values including some Confucian one as the family being central unit of society, Traditional medicine... But this all have agenda that supports the regime
Nope... Collapsing as a totalitarian government sending its people into rolling blackouts... Collapsing property prices... spewing out viruses and then lying about it. Raping the oceans of resources and destroying entire eco systems... Making all of China's distrust them or hate them such as India.
I agree! She said life in the west is pretty good right now and life in China is still not that good for everyone. She totally ignored what he said. He said China was rising and the west was falling he wasn't talking about what it was at this moment. This woman is a biased idiot and should not be interviewing anyone.
In the long history of 4,000+ years, China has gone through many ups and downs. Historically, ancient China (Han, Tang, Song, Ming, Qing, etc.) once was the world's No1 power many times. In history, ancient China (the Three Kingdoms, the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, the partition of the North and South Dynasties, the late Qing Dynasty, and the Republic of China during the period of Japanese aggression) also fell to a very low position at one time or another. China has never been hysterical and biting others like a madman for being ranked 2nd, 3rd or lower. China bounced back every time. Unlike the Western powers, China tends to rebound by unifying its own territory and rarely expands or colonizes other countries. Now China is once again in the path of returning its pinnacle of history. China has a peaceful mind with these historical fluctuations. Because China is a mature civilization that is able to view changes in the power rankings of its countries with equanimity. The United States is very jealous of China's progress. The United States is a sad little country with a history of 200+ years. The United States has been No 1 in the world only once, for a total of less than 100 years. The United States cannot afford to lose. The United States is a country that cannot accept defeat in competition. it is impossible for a country to be No 1 power forever. China can't, USA can't, no country can. it is naïve to pursue all-time No 1.
I love how Martin Jacques shuts down the arrogant moralist finger wagging from western "journalists" and false academics. The notion that the West is a shining light and beacon of moral and cultural modelism is absurd and the interviewer as trying to impose those opinions constantly. Big kudos to Martin Jacques for being objective.
As if the Chinese were not the most paternal morally authoritarian culture in asia. Im sure thats why according to Pew 78% of other nations in East and SE Asia prefer the US even under Trump. Sure China wont make your protect labor or the environment but they sure will make you a peon of the tributary system, bowing to the middle kingdom.
@@tester551000 Some people will always choose mouse utopia, which is why universal suffrage was always a mistake. Its the west banning people from travel now, Milo Yanoppoulos can't even visit Australia, why? He upset some feminists. Amazon burns books and now the bay area moral majority are implementing their version of the chinese internet, the west has no moral authority to speak anymore. The dysgenic nature of western society is not a model for anyone who have concerns beyond their own generation.
@@tester551000 Post the link to the generic southeast asian study. Why would I cry about the summer palace? Are you celebrating rape, murder, opportunism, and two-faced actions? Not surprising asswipes like you still exist. You obviously don't know who I am, my politics, or what I believe in. Furthermore, it's in Taiwan so I"m not even sure what ludicrous notion you have in your tiny little head. Also you're a colonialist nutlicker, obviously, because you if you lived abroad rather than your little semi-collectivist propagandists mudhole, you would know what spectrum of "paternlist" societies exist out there and would know how dumb you sound.
True ,we lost moral beacon rights when we did MKultra atrocities to our own people to see how we could use the results against our "enemies" or even because of pure curiosity and tortured people like it was a righteous activity that yielded real results. I say it was just results they wanted to be able to feed congress and the people and a person who is tortured tends to give the torturer whatever answer they want.
Mkmusic marcos Pathetic loser, lol, you can believe in whatever bullshits propaganda tells you and fake news tells you, and complaining about that “certain people are all bad “, meanwhile we are strengthening our country and developing our economy rapidly. we’ll get you sooner or later. You pathetic full of bias and hatred basement nerd.😜
@zerpashmal No, wrong. The interjection of irrelevant SJW topics into a lecture of global, humanity wide analysis shows the ideological blinders and intellectual narrowness of the woman, as well as yourself. Yes, she and you should shut up.
When I listen to her 1st question to Martin, I am sure she is still living in 70's, so that's why we need people like Martin to pull them back from stone ages!
Calling someone a cow or Nazi is impolite, and she maybe has had many children so has great excuse for being unfit, and being accepting of women getting plump is why the Indians are nicely still having 3+ kids per woman unlike the 1.1 for Chinese and 1.8 for White Americans, so you are being mean and unwise. Jerks.
Alex Russell ... I am not about verbal abuse...but sadly this person ready inspires hate... and her mass and hatred/ignorance are an amazing combination. If she wasn’t this obese maybe she wouldn’t be so hateful?
I hope this anecdote will not be seen as lowering the tone; it seems to me to be in line with Mr Jacques's point of China as a civilisation state with a long cultural history, - In the late 1990s I was given the task of getting a Mandarin speaking Chinese student through an obligatory English exam so that he could get a place in a British university where his very high level ability in maths could be fostered. A compulsory part of the English exam was a question on a play by Shakespeare (Macbeth in that year). I felt it incumbent on me to convey the idea that the text he was about to study would not be in the English he was encountering in every day speech and print, so I began by writing "W, Shakespeare: 1564-1616." - He looked at this, looked back at me and grinned. "Ah yes," he said, "Modern Literature."
That ppt is almost the same one he used 8 years ago，in a TED speech.8 years passed,we have learned much more about west.But the west still know little about us. pity.
Correct, the West is still slow to wake up to the reality of Chinas rise and adjust accordingly. This is why we have to be taught the same old but very insightful and prophetic ppt material.
But judging from recent events between USA-China, USA's elites are fully awared of China and how challenging Western's position because the rise of sleeping dragon, and thus is the reason they began the Trade war.
I think Martin got everything right. Proud to see the Brits still has a good hold of geopolitical issues and understandings. It's always hard to understand people completely different from oneself. Good job Martin!
Zhenyu Xia The British still have that ability to understand different people and cultures...that is what made them an empire years back.Unfortunately their counterparts,the Americans...are usually ignorant..
In ming dynasty, Chinese officials with most advanced navy obtained what they wanted through exchange but not robbery by force. The powerful navy force was only for defence but not colony, which was cofirmed by the relics in the muesum.😃😃😃respect to the Ancient Chinese.
stone aussie: Your advance navy in Ming dynasty must be the 317 naval ships commanded by Zheng He in his 7 voyages abroad. Unfortunately the said navy might just be a hoax according to this article titled 郑和下西洋是一个被无限夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传, published here: blog.boxun.com/hero/201302/feihuduiwenji/5_1.shtml.
Because China have never invaded anyone. Other than Canton and Tibet and Vietnam, and East Turkestan, Nepal, Manchuria and itself a few times. But no they never used there military aggressively for all theses places that were independent in living memory have been Chinese Territory since ancient times.
But what is wrong with colonization itself? Take Britain for instance, her colonization of India brought more benefits to the continent than ills. It abolished the barbaric practices of widow burning, helped the Indian people to restore their culture which was always eliminated by the Islamic invasion. And it laid the foundation for democracy, rule of law and civil service system. Of course there has been really bad instances of colonization, such as the Japanese colonization of Korea, Taiwan and Guam, the Philippines. It brought no civilization, because at the time it was itself not civilized.
I like the moderator lady, she represents the sort of mainstream opinions that how westerns think about China which is the guarantee that China can keep developing fast than the rest.
I'm a Chinese raised to be proud of the Chinese cultural heritage and lived in the US for over 20 years. I see many of the great things the Western civilization has achieved, but also much misunderstanding of the Chinese culture and nation. Mr. Jacques is a rare scholar who speaks fairly with deeper understanding of China than most western “experts”. I see that he is hoping the west will understand China objectively rather than always with a western bias; if not, it’s the west that will be caught surprised and confused, not China.
The moderator is so subjective one can smell her position and the answer she wants to hear...and I can’t agree more about culture being lost during the course of modernization. She talks about ethnic minorities in Yunnan feeling sad about losing their cultural uniqueness. I have to say China as a whole actually gave up a lot of it’s uniqueness in order to survive in western dominance in the past few centuries. I even feel sad about myself having to study English and western values (obviously not my culture)in order to have a brighter future. I wonder if she feels sorry for me.
@Sagess Aries Don't over trust the media. If you travel to China, you will find that it's totally different from what the media described.And I believe that no company in any country has ever had a scandal.A recent EWG discovered that oats contain herbicides.The highest levels of carcinogenic herbicide Quaker were detected in many oat products in the United States.Forty-three of 45 oats had herbicides. Cancer-causing herbicides have been detected in many oat products in the United States, and Quaker has the highest content.
Ehem, Cultural revolution wrecked Chinese culture, not Western powers, as Chinese culture lives on in Taiwan and Hongkong, two places with stronger connections to western powers than China ever had.
Sure... some bootlickers who will bow without resistence to the subhuman monsters who pay you 50 cent an hour to troll around! The west would offer you freedom, not just a bowl of ramen! How about that?
There is a tradition in China called 落叶归根, meaning the fallen(落) leaf（叶） returns to（归） root（根）. All my ancestors and family members that passed away are buried really close to where we were born. We have a long history based on paying respect to ancestors. My family legend dates back to the first tribes that started Chinese civilization 5000 years ago, and my last name can be found in 3000-year-old excavated stone tiles from ancient shipwrecks and bronze artifacts back in the bronze age. Homeland is sacred in Chinese culture. After seeing the physical evidence of how my last name was recorded in history since 3000 years ago, it's hard not to feel the commitment to protect its legacy.
When China promotes win-win cooperation, we reallly mean both sides wins. The US would interpret it as China would win two times. This is the difference between the two culture.
@@maeudaou7347 First of all, a society of total equality is a utopia, which only exists in someone's dream, a communist's pipe dream perhaps. Democracy does not work well anywhere by the utopian standard, but it works well enough. Especially it works far better than any other form of governance, which has been proven repeatedly. The poorest people in America are far better off than the poor people in the communist China, who are literally slaves. In fact the US helped numerous counties to build their economy, Europe, Japan, South Korea, China after cultural revolution, Iraq, to name a few.
@@maeudaou7347 No! The Chinese love the US. Even the Chinese communist party officials are deeply in love with the US, this is why they all send their kids and their concubines to the US along with the their money. Obviously they trust the US and therefore not believe it lies. You have probably been lied to by the self hate Western media or the communist propaganda.
With respect, China is not "rising," nor is USA "declining." Rather, China (and Asia), is going through a process of "rebirth," while USA's relative power - by contrast to that of China and the rest of the world - no longer extends quite as far as it used to. China and India both regard the previous 200 years (i.e., Western dominance), as an aberration, and now as the per capita GDP values of China and Asia continue to mature and grow during this rebirth process, there will eventually be a magnitude of 'presence' and 'influence' emanating from China and Asia that will be unlike anything ever before experienced by the world. Napoleon knew this in 1806 ("Let China sleep"), and now the U.S. and the West need to reexamine their situations relative to a transformed distribution of capabilities and power throughout the geopolitical realm. USA is no longer the undisputed Top Dog, so to speak, and given that USA is only 5% of global demographics, eventually its economic and other influence will more closely match that 5% value than the considerably larger percentage it enjoyed during the 20th century. Bottom line, USA now needs to support and strengthen international institutions and coalitions more than ever, so as to help it to retain a voice and/or impact within the transforming arena of geopolitics; by contrast, its current provocative dallience with unilateral foolishness is counter-productive and even dangerous.
Isn't what you're describing exactly what Martin said, just put in different words? He did answer the host's first question by refuting that the US and Western Europe are declining on an absolute scale, but simply that their relative global proportion is decreasing.
You can see the source why the US is treating China as a threat from the Q&A section, not even Martin get the idea of minority political decisions, even it is so obvious in Chinese sight The society will move forward, and the changes will be more dynamic and dramatic, it will certainly rise lots of social conflicts that without the solution, and the religion and culture that cannot adopt or even said fall to a degree that will harm the future stability of the whole society will be considered a threat of China, not to mention many of those Uyghur and Tibetans turned terrorist way before the West utilized them as a weapons. From the Q&A section we can see how brainwashed or misinformed of those so-called professionals, the only thing they see is a human-right violation which is completely false and viewing instance as a point instead of line, with no context and twisted information ( funny the female host use "the reporter" as the legit source base of their information, and we all know what those "reporters" have been doing to China for decades) it is scary that a nation like the US which is controlling the internet yet its people could be undergoing such massive public brainwashing status without even questioning (lack of the skills or lack of the mind?), while the Chinese with the great firewall can reach the truth deep down. It is not China that killing the west, it is those Baizuo that created by its own media killing the west, what an ironic civilization.
@@middalai6611 A fundamental difference, one belt one road is an initiative to help the development of others and gain economic growth from it, a win-win situation, like trading. The western "go overseas" have proven to be an invasion, slavery, conquer, civilization destroyer and massacre true even nowadays. Unfortunately, the west almost cannot grow anymore because there are fewer countries they can bully.
@@middalai6611 every heard of "how many rounds of freedom per second this apache helicopter can shoot" thats pretty much how the west export their trades. US got out of the grrat depression due to ww2 stimulating their economy dramatically. They've since followed that model. China always kept to itself, it is the ones that trades with it that brings its culture to where they live. Japan tried to export their way by invasion, but guess what nobody talks about how devilish they are, whereas, China never exported aggression overseas before. This is probably due to them not being submissive to the west.
America can’t stop the rise of 🇨🇳 China, which is so true! Thanks 🙏 Martin for your full understanding of 🇨🇳 China and introduction of 🇨🇳 to the world!
Allow me to enlighten you all: Both China and India are reclaiming their lost glories as the world's largest trading nations until 300 years ago. We in our western hemisphere should accept this eventuality, especially we Americans should be happy to settle at 3rd place. No power can stop those two nations because 21st century belongs to Asia!😇
Martin, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and observation on China. I really enjoyed listening to your talk shows on China. Your talk shows carried weight and depth! Please keep up with your good efforts!
She’s no damn journalist, she and her group are the organization that Behind“ East Turkistan terrorist organization” and various other foreign corporations constantly planing divide the China apart, Judge from her looking, she probably a extremes Feminist or a top member of Antifa too. A lot of kind-hearted young passion liberals were incited and effected by this type of toxic people, and they turned into violence Antifa members which divided America people into two extremes and hating each other.
From Humanity stand point any nation's rise specially a large nation the size of China is a good thing just by looking at how many people are out of extreme poverty; however from Western and specially US stand point a large nation's rise is a bad thing because it threatens Western dominance in the world's affairs.
This professor knows china better than many Chinese, including myself. Very broad vision profound knowledge about the culture, history, economy, and problems.
China does have many problems but they sure do take actions to reform before becoming a serious threat, while the US has been in decline for decades and no resolution for any of its major problems, no reform is possible with the political stalemate and it just goes down and down!
Pat It’s true China has reformed economically, but not politically. In fact it’s gone backwards in the last 6 years or so politically. US’s problem is the ultra liberalism.
Only the superstar Martin is happy about and proud of China’s amazing achievements. Everyone else seems jealous of China’s rise. You can always find small or minor issues here or there in any country. No country is perfect! It’s all about relativity and speed and direction of the progress!
@@r.282 Genocides? I see European's are still outnumbered population-wise, if they really went after genocide either they would all be dead or all their enemies would be.
The West has much to learn from the worlds oldest Civilization. Many in the West said the Chinese Civilization ended in 1949. This has been true even in schools of learning. What a fresh breath of air.
Westerners keep harping on Xinjiang and Tibet as if they were the only minorities. The fact is China has many many minorities. The real question is, why the trouble with ONLY Tibet and Xinjiang? The distinguishing feature is Separatism in these areas. The Chinese Government is quite happy for any of its minorities to practise its own culture and religion so long as there is no threat of Separatism. Look at the Mongol, Hui, Yunnan minorities etc. Separatism is the one issue that the Chinese government is deathly afraid of, so one can see its very vigorous response, some say over reaction.
As will most other countries dealing with separatism, it is futile for separatism when China is strong and the will of the people is for a united and peaceful country.
I have never been to Xinjiang but I travelled to Tibet last year. I think the Tibetans in Tibet are quite peaceful. It's just those exile former "high class" tibetans living in india have issues
@@petagonkyi That was more than 300 years ago, longer than US founded. The US gives Huwaii, Guan, Texax ,Calforinia and the whole North American back to native indians.
Mr. Martin is British. Sinology research was also initiated by Britain in the West. More than a hundred years ago, the British also woke China from their sleep (although the method used was very rude) The relationship between Britain and China is really delicate ...
the woman is a disaster... she has so little knowledge and biased view of China... she went over with presumptions without knowing much of the language and culture there
..talking about Urban vs Rural Inequality, you should come to California. Visit the tent cities near Anaheim Stadium in Los Angeles. You can't miss it. Gaslamp San Diego (America's Finest Tent City), you see living standard inequality there also. San Jose is scary. You must not have come to California before you completed your thesis.
In the USA, our poor live like the worlds middle class. Go look it up. I was born and raised in California and you can make great money there but what really kills you is the rent and taxes.
The inequality is way more crazy in the US. The host is obviously above middle class, and pretentiously assume that every US citizen lives in fancy live as herself. But if she really go to some area such as LA downtown, she could easily see many poor homeless people lived in camp or street.
I was in Yunnan 4 months ago. I lived with the ethnic groups there. I ate with them and celebrated their New Year (in November) with them. The ethnic groups are happy. The Hans respect them. Many have close friendships. I am a Han descendant. Even though I don't speak Mandarin well since I grew up in Canada, they welcomed me to their village and homes. This host (or journalist as she refers herself as) is pushing the audience to think otherwise.
Hi I'm a Chinese Malaysian by the way. My grandfather came to Malaysia back in the 1930s when China was still in their Century of Humiliation period. I just wanna share my thoughts about living in a former British colony like Malaysia and how I "rediscovered" myself as en ethnic Chinese. My name is Edwin, it was a given name since birth, apart from my Chinese name. My dad has an English name too even though we are not Christians. In Malaysia, ethnic Chinese having an English name whether they're Christians or not are pretty common. I guess that's the effect of colonialism. Many of us (Chinese Malaysians) adopt an English name to appear more "cosmopolitan", more modern"" as we associate being more Western as being more modern. There is no other type of modernity to us apart from Western. But in the last decade, I have personally studied a lot about Chinese history and culture. I realised China was a much more civilised and advanced nation for most part of world history. They just got it wrong for the past 150 years. One of the Ted talk given by Martin Jacques a few years ago tittled "When China rules the world" really changed my world view. China today is rising to becoming how it was for most part of history, I had a real paradigm shift on how I should I identify myself too. My English name Edwin, is probably not a necessary given name. I started to think why should my family adopt an additional Western name? These names actually have no cultural significance to ours at all. If I were to have kids in the future, I will not give them an extra English/Western names. My future family should be proud of their real names instead. I am glad to discover people like Martin Jacques who really understand China.
@@ELGtheMAN Thank you for sharing your story. All overseas Chinese are very welcomed in China. That is my experience every time when I go there. And China is so safe and people are so positive. I was so lost after spending almost all my life here in Canada. No matter how hard I work, I will always be 2nd class here. But when I went to China for the first time, I was in tears when I left. Because I have finally found my people who genuinely wanted me to succeed. I am planning to move there and back to where my spirit belongs.
@@keawewong6110 hi Mr Wong. It's my pleasure really. I really do wanna visit my ancestral home one day in Hainan island and also to the mainland. By the way do you have an instagram or something whereby I could see how's your life in China? I added you Keawe Wong at instagram, I'm not sure whether it's you. My instagram is edwin_elg.
The professor do know about China and the West. The most important thing is he explain a complex China to the western audience in a lucid way. I do agree with him on China insensitive handling of the Xinjiang and Tibet region .
China acted In a rational way considering the early "freedom Fighters" were CIA plants trained and supplied. It was an act of war In a way by the US Interfering and as a result It was dealt like such.
zerpashmal yo bruh quit throwing alternative facts like there is no tomorrow. The autonomous regions are largely inhibited by Han Chinese except in Tibet and Xinjing.
I think the professor's researches focus more on macro (such as history and culture) rather than micro (such as demographics and statistics) aspects of China. And apparently, some people did not ask the right questions, such as the ones regarding women, minority, etc. For these questions, just do some basic research online and you do not need to ask a professor. 1. The question about women. There are more female students than male students in China. According to World Bank statistics, in 2018, 43.6 % of the workforce in China was female and 46% was female in the U.S. I guess the major reason why the question was asked is that there seems to be a smaller portion of political leaders/CEOs (i.e., higher level management roles) in China than that in the west world. This just takes time to evolve. Remember that it takes the west world dozen of years, if not centuries, to become what you see today. 2. The question about minorities. There are over 50 minority ethnicities in China. All of them are in harmony with the giant society except for some Tibetans and Uyghurs. Why is that? It's simply because they are used as a tool by the outsiders (such as the western countries and the middle east countries) to bring disturbance to China. China wants order and hates chaos. However, if you want peace, prepare for war.
@M P Certainly you don't understand the true wisdom of Chinese phylosophy, there is an old saying, perfectly describes the core mentality of being a strong benevolent figure: never plan to harm others, but always plan to prevent others harming us. The saying of peace and preparation for war basically says the same thing.
As well as underestimate those so-called "religious conflicts". If certain groups of people get armed and attack random people from the streets, it's called terrorism. And China try to teach them forgo those brainwashed doctrine and learn basic skills to go back the society. As for Tibet, Lama is the owner of tons of slave but pretend to be nice in front of camera.
this moderator has completely lost her role. She will be satisfied in one of the china bashing events. It's painfully obvious that she has her piece of mind.
@@clray123 she is still a moderator not a debate opponent. The professor is presenting his argument with facts and statistics. When the professor says 90% are Han Chinese which includes so non Han minorities, she asked where the professor get his stat from, rudely! I suggest her to pull out her phone and look it up in Wikipedia to see how much of China's population is Han Chinese.
What the professor is doing is relentless cherry-picking of facts and statistics to support his rosy narrative. Notice how he follows every negative remark with a BUT... and then goes on praising. He's a puppet.
@@clray123 The "but" is mainly for people like you to attack him less. It takes real guts to come out and paint a picture that is not approved by the mainstream media. Academics like him are tantamount to the so-called communist sympathizers in the 60s. It's real risk to their career. Just ask professor Jeffery Sachs he's effectively censored and had to shut down his twitter. If you accuse the professor cherry-picking his facts, I supposed you got alternative statistics. Do share! accusing him using "but" too much does not justify your accusation.
BUT his picture is very much approved by Chinese mainstream media... Also, he IS a communist sympathizer, he was chief editor of Marxism Today for a long time.
I don't think anyone from the West who talks about the conflicts of Xinjiang Uighurs as if it's the fault of the Chinese government knows what they are talking about. For the basic: Uighurs are not the only nor the original residents of Xinjiang. While relative majority, they account for just about 40% of the population. The fact is the majority of people living in Xinjiang (including many Uighurs) DO identify themselves as part of the Chinese civilization. It is really the fault of the West that they only talk to the few dissidents/terrorists from Uighurs. I mean if I talk only to the neo-Nazis, I'd come to the conclusion that the German government today is guilty of suppression the real Aryans, wouldn't I?
Wonderfully put and clearly explained, really made me think of small minded we are in UK. But I blame our media as they never seems to show news from the rest of the world now, they did before!!
Great talk, I am confident to say that he is one of the rare that really gets us on many topics. Even some of the points, we, as Chinese never actually think about it...
Gee it's almost as if this comment section is overrun by people who might be doing the work of some undisclosed government that is hostile to criticism
When i was young and at the age of school, just misunderstood the reasons of blocking the external internet. After few years stayed in abroad , which means now, i could say im definitely a patriot. The Chinese Gov didn't stop us knowing the outside world, but protect us from the rumors and deceptions.
Most people in the west see China as a threat, when China is treating their partners and friends with respect, unlike the west do the opposite. I see strong China a good thing for everyone.
You sir, are woefully misinformed. China treats its partners and friends with respect? Well, if by respect you mean not holding its end of pretty much every major commitment its pledged itself to. Such as their pledge to halt IP and technology transfers of companies operating in China, reducing export subsidies, halting intellectual property theft, abiding by the technical barriers of trade agreement set forth by the WTO, refraining from currency manipulation, And, of course, opening its markets to the world like the world has done for China. If thats what you mean by respect, then yes, China is just overflowing with "respect" for the world. China, just like North Korea, will say anything they have to in order to advance their position on the world stage; however, they rarely live up to their end of the bargain.
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Summary:
Since the 2008 crisis, China's economy has doubled whereas the US grew only 10%, hence China's rise must be considered with imminence.
(4:28) China has been a civilisational-state for 2000 years, and a nation-state for 120 years. Hence it enjoys strong cultural inheritance and values that unites despite a political tolerance of differences.
(8:41) Chinese governance is judged by west as unsustainable and repressive, but actually enjoys widespread support and.legitimacy due to:
(9:51) 1. State is seen as guardian and embodiment of society (inconceivable for US)
2. Governance drawn from family: emperor must rule as a good father.
3. long history of meritocracy.
(11:26) China throughout history has not been expansionary and externalised (like European colonialism). The expression of their "universalism" (or superiority complex/ national pride) was very centred on China, geographically and culturally.
(14:35) China has not had a war-mongering history. Rather "the Tribute system" guided Chinese politics for 3000 years, where cultural power was valued over military power; member states had to recognise superiority of the middle Empire and Confucian values, and did not subjugate themselves economically.
(18:05) China will have much greater proportional economic power than the US did even at its zenith as a superpower. By 2030, China may have twice the percentage of GDP as the US and 1/3 that of the Global GDP (assuming uninterrupted projections). Compare the British Empire, where at its height the UK accounted for only 8.5% of Global GDP and yet controlled 20% of the world. [[note that Jacques doesn't mention the English Raj (India) accounted for about 12% global GDP in 1870]]
(22:10) China views itself as having a unique, strategic role with developing countries, and places great importance on developing future economic alliances with them (as opposed to the US that has strategically formed alliances with wealthier nations).
(28:11) Belt and road is the largest, most protracted and most ambitious project in human history. It is difficult to predict how much it will transform the world, China's international relations and Asian governance structures. Noticeably, Japan, India and the US have boycotted the project.
(33:48) Some criticisms have surfaced from several countries involved in Belt and Road that they have over-indebted themselves. Greed, corruption and/or impulsiveness have compromised local projects and countries' ability to repay.
(37:08) The centre of gravity of the global economy is shifting from somewhere between Europe and America (in 1980) to the China/India border (as we move towards 2030)
(39:50) China does not place the same importance on military spending and expansion as the US (or Russia) does.
(40:51) China does not impose itself politically or meddle, they remain politically "agnostic".
(41:13) The US cannot stop the rise of China and must come to terms with it as a superpower.
(43:26) China now competes as a serious global player in technology and innovation. A trade war that isolates US industry from this dynamism might lead to US technological stagnation.
(47:07) the US must adapt to China as a peer and find a balance between cooperation and rivalry, not merely defensiveness.
*The british empire was 24% of the worlds gdp in 1870
@@tsim4703 8.5% according to him: 21:45
@@AniishAu I think he means the UK, not the British Empire as a whole. There are estimates that the UK accounted for just over 9% while India accounted for 12% in 1870
@@tsim4703 thanks, I see your point now. According to Wkp the Raj was 50% of the GDP of the empire in 1870. Though Martin doesn't fudge the data, he's certainly not painting the full picture.
@@AniishAu But he's not wrong though. At the end of the day India, despite being a colony, was ruled by Indians. And that means the wealth India generated means nothing to Britain unless that wealth can be transferred back.
Think of it like a parent company. When you own a subsidiary, that sub is useless to the parent company unless the sub's profits trickle up to the parent company.
The thing with colonialism was that the end goal was for profits and raw materials to flow back to the colonizer. If it doesn't, it provides very little benefit to the colonizer country.
Oh that womans ego jumping at the chance of every commentary to show she knows stuff and has been to China came out really desperate, let the expert talk please. She adds nothing to the talk.
So true. I mean surely she knows a huge amount, yet to constantly add to the questions posed to him, not to her, is just plainly rude and wrong. Judging from her position she is probably bothered by the fact he is a white male.
only mass.
Its one year later now, and to answer her question, can China stands up to the US pressure? I think the answer is other way around from what she wanted.
She is actually countering him in factual points. He is already sold to CCPs propoganda.
a hater paid by Modi.
After listening to the Q&A segment; I wonder whats the point of inviting Martin to give the speech in the first place. The talk title is "What China Will Be Like As A Great Power" and the moderator and audience questions are of the usual pointed ones of scrutinizing the country with western lens. Criticism of the country's authoritarian governance is as valid as ever, but please do it constructively with respect to the topic of discussion?
While typing it out on a iPhone made from Foxconn, China. Yes, thank you for constructive critism.
I agree that the moderator was disruptive and rude, but I can understand the audience's questions because the talk's title wasn't directly addressed; in my opinion. The speaker's presentation was very insightful with regard to China's culture and perspective, but didn't give much insight on how it might interact with the rest of the world as a great power. The presentation gave me the impression that the world just had to come to terms with however China decides to act.
I'm sure the whole world, not just the west, is anxious about how ethically China will project its influence as it grows. China has shown that it will not conform to the current global standard of ethics and business practices. Will it continue to bully its opposition and undermine global trade agreements? What might happen when no other powers can significantly pressure China economically?
With China on track to become the the world's economic superpower for the foreseeable future, and its extremely effective single party government, will it expect the world to comply with the expectations it has set for its citizens? For example, far fetched as it may be, could we be expected to participate in a global social credit system to access Chinese based services or financial products?
@@JohnSmith-sf8ms What difference does it make if it's a shit Iphone or Samsung or X .. Given all these vicious corporate entities are all engaged in the same destructive practices. After all where does the Cadmium other precious metal required to make such fancy (crap) come from? Under what conditions? Who pays?
@@AudioPervert1 Please take my previous comment as an attempt at satire. Regarding your question, I'm afraid I cannot answer. I am no business owner and I have not done any research on labor work conditions in each countries. However, on industrial civilization being unsustainable and a harm to global environment, I have to agree with you on that part.
@@JohnSmith-sf8ms thanks for the reply.
I want to thank you Mr. Jacques, for reminding me of what it's like to listen to a grown up talking about China.
Agreed.
I agree with many of his views. However I am wary of the fact that what he said echos too closely with what the Chinese society teaches us about ourselves. Namely that we are a peaceful civilization, tribute vs conquest, desire to stay at home, etc. Perhaps those views are spot on, I hope they are, but it could also be complacency and self-reassurance from a Chinese point-of-view. Jacques is following those lines too closely, and that's what worries me: that he lacks insights. He did convey the Chinese world view accurately and serves an introductory role for westerners though.
I'm not so sure Hong Kong and Tibet agree with his views on China's insular and non-militant "stay-at-home" nature. That's to say nothing of the Uyghur Muslim issue.
Chinabad REEEEEEE
@@dunzhen yes, considerably. americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/chinese-communist-member-data-leak-shows-thousands-in-us-government-companies-and-more-report/?
As a Chinese born Mongolian, a minority, I do not feel Han, but I do not feel sad or my culture is being suppressed. I believe any well-educated minority knows that Chinese culture has been influenced by minorities' culture, meanwhile, in Mongolia, even our own culture is changing as well. Just be open-minded and accept culture fusion.
as a born Han,we culture has been greatly influenced by Mongolian too,especially for the peoole and their cultures from northern part of China as once the ancient China was a part of Mongolian empire.and we biologically has the blood of Mongolian too.but we are still Han by any means.
@@hanslee8695 可以这么说吧，自从大航海时代，全球都在欧洲化。各个方面，比如：音乐、科技、能源、服装、交通系统、建筑。只要是好的，不应该画地为牢。你所谓的汉化，实际上包括了很多经由汉族的欧洲化，或者说西方化。
你的文化？
你们蒙古人有什么文化？
翻开历史书，你们的文化最辉煌的时候是屠杀别的民族群体。
你作为在中国成长的蒙古族，很大概率是汉族血统，即便不是，你也没收到过汉族的歧视。
还刻意的说和汉族没有亲近感，妈的，在海外洋人和你亲近么？尤其是你现在在海外，有哪个白人会高看你一眼么？
我遇到外蒙的蒙古人，可没你这么低贱的认为蒙古文化如何，因为蒙古就没有文化，被俄罗斯人早就阉割。
无非是中国的错误的民族宗教政策叫你们回维藏蒙满几个民族心态不正而已。
反正在海外，你算个几把？
中国最大的问题就是给了这些野蛮群体太多的特权。
@@hanslee8695 不要套近乎，汉族就是汉族，是一个伟大文明创造群体，蒙古人在西方历史就是野蛮人的代名词。
你们被中国民族宗教政策洗脑，认为要优待少数民族，他们少数民族尤其是回族蒙满藏维感恩么？
我们都在欧美，有哪个国家优待这些所谓群体的？
更多的是歧视吧，更别提是蒙古人，这个名词在英文里就是野蛮人的意思。
中国的这几个尤其是宗教性民族群体被惯坏了，浅草。
@megakids 煞笔，你以为现在中国是王道乐土么？
再就是这个蒙古族不感谢在中国被平等甚至优待，却在这里强调不亲近汉族，你可以告诉我这种人配生活在汉族国家么？
再就是你什么东西？你如果不是汉族，也是那几个有国外母国的，早点滚，不送。
共产党优待你们，但是我不赞同。
Among those so-called China experts I have watched in RUclips, Professor Jacques is the best scholar in this area. He is one of the rare species of the West to speak the truth with facts on China issues.
He is the best i can see so far.
The best at praising CCP and ignoring Chinese xenophobia and brainwashing.
@@clray123 YOU BRAIN DEAD.
He is a Communist Party member, so naturally he praise the CCP and ignore everything else .
46 minutes in and I still haven't heard him mention forced technology transfer (the driving and essential element to China stealing the centre of world innovation) as the price to gain access to the Chinese market. That is criminal plain and simple (not free market, but, literally a mafia tactic) and if major corporations and companies cannot see the dire consequences of unearned Chinese advances the US government needs to step in and make it a criminal offence - and contrary to US national security interests... see what he says in the second half, but, am not expecting any real honesty.
The Host is more than a little intrusive .... she doesn't seem to grasp the concept of ASKING the questions and letting the guest ANSWER them - without interruption.
She's far too concerned with getting her agenda across of 'yeah but China bad...'
I'm a Chinese, I've been working and living with a few western people for many years, but there is one thing I learned from them: they feel very upset when they heard Chinese people say that they don't understand China...
因为我们的历史真的是太长了，中华文化博大精深，至广大，至精微，他们不懂很正常，就连我们自己，大多数也是百姓日用而不知，很多习俗，很多仍在沿用的哲学思想早在数千年前就已经出现了。他们的沮丧就像一个三岁小孩被告知不懂成年人的烦恼一样，凸显了他们的浅薄！
Most of them don't care even trying to understand.
My experience is the opposite. In general, Westerners are self-reproachful to a fault. They'll gleefully admit they don't know about China, denigrate their own country and its people and put Chinese people on a pedestal. Whereas in China, the blind loyalty to the state indoctrinated into its citizens at a young age leads to a strong strain of 玻璃心 - if you were to tell a Chinese person they don't understand the West, many would see it as an affront to all Chinese people. Anything that might be perceived as the slightest critique of how things are done in China so often gets interpreted as an attack on all Chinese people.
@@vladivanov5500 You seem to be new to social media
@@huyifan83 Social media platforms are not an apt measuring stick with which to judge a culture. It's a largely controlled platform and certain sections will inevitably attract more of certain types of users than others - many of which are funneled there through activist groups, many others are shills, bots, trolls, etc.
Then you've got algorithm manipulation and selective censorship which further skews things.
I have just "discovered" this guy. I am 76 years old and 5 years ago I went to China for the first time. I spent 6 weeks travelling all over China staying in cheap Chinese hotels and mixing with ordinary Chinese people. It fundamentally changed my western thinking especially about democracy and communism. I now think about government in terms of what it delivers to its people. I agree with nearly everything this man says. The biggest threat to the world comes from the dysfunctional USA not from China. We in Australia and New Zealand need to understand that the Chinese mean us no harm and we need to encourage our leaders to think independently of our own countries future's and not just follow the USA propaganda like a flock of sheep.
@Barry Tickle If you are a visitor to a country and you are openly critical of it to locals you get what you deserve. Try doing it in Texas lol.
Try Serpentza channel; he knows China very well.
@Doomsday Clown Nice to meet someone else who has an open mind and looks at the whole picture. All the democratic rights in the world are no use to ordinary people if their government does not deliver personal health, safety and freedom from hunger. Too much of western thinking about China is dominated by the bad parts of Mao's reign and the events of Tiananmen Square instead of looking at the present day China.
Bullshit, the CCP are very bad for this world, they act like damn children all the time if they don't get there way. While most of the population may be decent, the CCP is far from it. They want everyone to bow down to them which will never happen, i would die before that.
They literally have Muslims in concentration camps and censor just about anyone who criticizes them. China is an international security threat...
Infrastructure doesn't make money itself. China spent a huge amount of resources on infrastructure and there's no way to make all that back from train tickets or highway tolls. But they benefit the country in such a way that all other aspect of its economy starts running at accelerated speed, increasing the country's productivity like what we saw happened in China in the last few decades, so that a socialist country like China can redirect its state resources to even out the giant whole it digged when building all the infrastructure and move ahead with its development. It required a great vision and extraordinary sense of mission from the country's leadership to pull out something like this. But not every country in the belt road thingy has this kind of leadership, or a political system that would allow such an allocation of wealth for improved growth; people look at an expensive rail road project and say no, the investment won't be recovered from train ticket sales, and start calling it a debt trap. The fact is that China itself never recovered from the infrastructure investments, not by selling train tickets at least, but by speeding up the country in every other way.
Allow me to add some points and correct something as well:
China is NEVER a socialist country, but rather a centrally planned capitalist country. The wealth disparity is just too great to justify the socialist label. Despite the mandatory and free education, there is quite a bit of loopholes in fairness of quality of education.While other areas of a socialist country is barely existent in China.
Indeed it require great vision and leadership, but credits has to be given to the social norm that 'The few sacrifice is for the greater good'. The push for infrastructure always comes with high cost for some residents, while it undoubtedly benefited many, these residents lost their homes without decent compensation due to *corruption* and yes a huge sum is allocated as compensation(for the Three Gorges dam), but if 20% reaches the resident after passing many officials, they will be consider lucky(The resident are often threatened as well, the name of removal team literally means forcefully demolition team(强拆队). The resentment from resident does exist, but generally accepted as their sacrifice is for the greater good. This is a quality not seen as often in the West, where relatives of a buried deceased can refuse to let the body to be moved for a HS2 railway, essentially a grave costing HS2 millions a day in operational cost.
The debt trap idea is actually misunderstood. This is because a lot of countries that China invested in MAY not need the capacity of the infrastructure. Ex. A second airport that barely have passengers flows or highways that are rarely used. These can actually be considered a 'debt trap' since the project benefit is not fully evaluated and most likely corruption involved. However, others contested investment such as the Sri Lankan port is just a smear, since the positive return is imminent to the surrounding area and a second port there will defiantly relief pressure on the first, so while some porjects are questionable, majority are insanely beneficial, because it allows Africa to partially skip the cost of industrialisation. A small example: Trains. From trains tracks to drivers, it cost money to train and build, but China is offering great opportunities and ease in achieving these goals, saving money for the African nations.
@Huang Chengjun While it is good, it has emerge that China is over building infrastructure in order to keep employment and GDP up. A lot of highways are abondoned and railways literally running parallel to each other when one is perfectly capable of handling the capacity leaving the other not economically efficient. Hopefully this changes soon, or the demand collapse can hit a lot of people in construction.
@Huang Chengjun Wasting money that could be spend on much needed health care in China? Or rural development? How is that good?
@Huang Chengjun 看别人的错而掩盖自己的不足，为了那6％数字和国家表象，不知道多少同胞还在最基本的生活线上挣扎。为什么我们要和别人比，为什么我们不能用事实说话，看到错误就去改变。
@@YinZhiLong China's infrastructure construction is far from enough, and it needs to continue in the future ...Poverty alleviation, building and improving infrastructure, and developing the economy ... they are not contradictory，In fact they are a whole, they complement each other...
I am a big fan of Martin Jacques. He is rational and knowledgable to see the problem!
This is the first time I heard somebody trying to explain China from the Chinese historical aspect, and also from philosophical point of view, i.e Confucianism. Confucianism is the core of China and in fact, still
a core value for many ethnic Chinese in South-East Asia, which is almost a total opposite of the high value placed on individualism in Western countries. Hence, we can’t expect China and the Chinese people to behave, think or conduct their affairs like Western countries and societies do. Thank you, Mr Jacques.
So a hive mind? XD
@@CHRF-55457 better than mindless drones like you
@@CHRF-55457Unity without uniformity. It only shows the limitations of western imagination if they think 1.4 billion people all think alike.
When Martin Jacques was talking, I saw someone who thought hard and deep about things around him. I can even feel his frustration when he ran into an obstacle on his journey of thinking and equally the jubilation when he finally thought through it. I respect him because he thinks. When that woman moderator opened her mouth, I saw nothing. Nil. Zilch.
This looks 20 yrs old in the light of what's happening now.
Exactly. You don't have to be an intellectual to see the obvious.
@@DorianLS But apparently we have to state what's obvious.
yeah who needs wars when you exterminate all that differ- be it tibet or india, just come join us
Why?
the lady thinks as a reporter, she knows everything. and quite obvious she isn't
I actually think the questions she brought up enriched Martin's argument. The reporter's perspective is so dominant in the West and therefore MANY people will have the same questions as she did.
Plus I think she's very well-read in terms of what has happened in China
@@zijunli9261 但是她每次等教授回答完问题总是在推荐别的speakers，还有那本Betrayal of the big brother, 是什么鬼。我同意你说的她的提问让教授的演讲更充实了。但是感觉总是在非要证明好像她理解的中国才是对的。
She doesn’t. My friend
Her knowledge of China are too shallow and she got all those info about China from western media. She is just an ordinary reporter no different from the rest.
He is just a journalist and he thinks he knows global economics and has been spouting the same WRONG narrative for over a decade...
This lady don't want to hear the truth, because she don't want her illusions destroyed
It takes two to play tennis. She's there to provide a counterpoint to Jacques' argument. It's boring and pointless to hear two people agreeing with each other. We just heard Jacques' excellent monologue, a view which I happen to agree with, why not listen to what his opponents have to say?
@@賴志偉-d7h It is ironic that she is not just an one, very high percentage of people in the world missunderstanding the real China that have more than 25% of population of the world, and you are one of them. you still live within your illusions that is why Chinese called you Frog in the well or corrupted generation
The truth is she stiil does better than most of the west.
@@tempCCC the Chinese had their entire nation STOLEN by the CCP in 1949...
@@Theineluctable_SOME_CANT Correct. The 'real' China is Taiwan.
That woman is insufferably condescending and her constant interruptions really detracted from the flow of the whole Q&A. Also did she literally ask a man in a wheelchair to stand up?
Anita Auckram she probably has low comprehension about what professor is saying
she is just embarrasing, a lot....
China has lost face with the world. Go to hell CCP
@@johnsonter1358 And the USA hasn't. Jesus bro look around. The states have pissed off its enemies and allies alike. The presidential election is being held between warmonger and warmonger lite, and strangely Trump hasn't started his own war..yet. Though he is a disgrace on just about everything else. Including lying about covid despite knowing how bad it was ahead of time. See the bob woodward tapes about it.
Well thats a fucking miacle in diguise she may be a gifted healer 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I very much look forward to China as a super power. China as a "oppressive" regime has managed to raise the living standards of its citizens by an enormous rate while beging pretty nice to its neighbors. The US on the other hand, as a democratic nation has brought misery and destruction to about 1/3 of the world including its own citizens.
shucky,, you are a fool ,,,7% of Chinese have a passport,,,, only,,,, opressed are its people,,, the Han are only from 25% of its land mass,1 billion still shit in an outside toilet,,, yeah living standards are great,, the city folk are being fed chemicals in their dailyfeed,,, yum yum,,,the living standards you talk about are mainly the city folk who have benefited by intelectual theft on and in manufacturing which is being hampered now,,, this will no doubt continue the actual decline in Chinese overall living standards of the greater population in the future as mechinization replace the need for the cheap Chinese rural labour force. I hope you also enjoy a future of being able to travel abroad based on your "social credits" as designed by the party of no choice
Craig Arnold do you have first hand knowledge? I have never been in China, but my sister has. In my statement I'm referring to what she told me. I've been in the US and I find that the US has many attributes of a third world nation. I visited about 20 countries so far.
Where do you get your insight from?
@@craigarnold9005 How pathetic is the words of an armchair commentator who never step out from the comfort of his home and giving opinions on a country he never set foot on with a view grossly in line with what's being fed to him by CNN and Fox news network. FYI ,10% of Chinese left China as tourists numbering 150 millions last year and the same 150 millions of them had returned to China. So get your data right before you start throwing distorted figures that depict your ignorance and lack of proper research on subjects you know nuts about...
Craig Arnold GOOD,KEEP UR ARROGANCE. IT IS FROM UR SHIT DATAS I AM AWARE THAT I AM LIVING IN THE HELL.SO SAD. HELP!! HIA HIA HIA!
@@craigarnold9005 2018, 125 million Chinese traveled overseas. Your data, as well as your logic, is delusional. Period.
I have to say, she is letting too much of her own bias to take over the conversation. And it is becoming unpleasant in the end. A host is supposed to take a neutral standpoint.
She doesn't agree with him - I don't either. I can see nothing wrong with her respectful attitude.
It's just alright. I think as long as she asks that means she is entangling with thinking conflict, which leads to growth.
Henry Kater you just do not know the history, that is it ! His profound knowledge shows everything, he read more than you , thinking more than you and of course more correct than you! Me as a chinese can not agree with him more, wven the big problem china has now , he said very correctly, let us see this vedio back again after 15 years
The woman is focusing more on the specific problems that minorities are facing such as oppression etc but professor jacques is focused on the general idea, its whole cause and effect of what China had been, has become and will becoming .
@@henrykater9728 Imagine I keep interrupting you while you talk, sound respectful?
Professor Jacques' speech is informative and educational as always.
The moderator, however, is a total disaster. She is a walking example of how arrogant and ignorant the West is about China. She proves professor Jacques' whole point in the speech. She will keep "sleep-walking into oblivion".
walking example? she is just one person. why stereotype?
@@gregh7457 mate. she's definitely not one person. even just on RUclips these debates and conferences have moderators with built-in hate for us Chinese
I wonder where Martin Jacques got his wisdom ;-) After living and teaching there for 15 years, I never doubted the progress and its pace under proper leadership (one might call it inspired management). My near 30.000 students have convinced me of that early on!
Thank you very much Prof. Jacques for your superb presentation. You definitely are a rare kind of scholar who is not biased but objective.
He is very knowledgeable.
Professor has spoken well regarding issues at hand for the American administration.
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Bravo Martin Jacques bravo. It is refreshing to hear this topic spoken with such intelligence, honesty, and yet, he was always being delicate/tactful in his comparisons. I am a student of history and, for me, China has been included in this for over 60 years now. I have been doing extensive research, consider the source. Throughout my 71 years, the US State Dept's "hate China" campaign has been a constant and along with this, the populations lock-step knowledge. There is "joke", and surely not synched, in many of the articles or videos. The authors/speakers describe China as "the 2nd largest economy", rather funny to some of us. Investments from the invisible privileged elite is "pouring" into China where over 1/3 of ALL the world's construction will be done this year. The privileged elite are sending their grandchildren to China to learn Mandarin (and see a glimpse of the future). .. .. "Traveling to China can feel like visiting the future. Nowhere is this feeling more apparent than on China’s high-speed railway network." A quote from a recent article about China..
The lady is 100% biased, very unprofessional.
Typical arrogant American
how so? her job as an interviewer is to challenge his claims and force him to defend them. I only once heard her say something stupid and it actually had nothing to do with China but with Europe.
@@rodolfo7077 ..... she's not American
@@Sadarsa Where is she from...?
I think she is being correctly critical, but her outlook is typical PC arguments, failing to consider the practical side of developing workable solutions. I think it is hard to deal with antagonism, religions feel toward US dominance, which is then translated to China's difficulties. This is is not a small argument.
Didn't the CIA supported the Tibetans? So the lady implied terrorism is justified because people are being suppressed?
Are you seriously suggesting Tibetans are terrorists? fucking moron.
@@2drealms196 what he is saying is that at least one of the original source of violence was the CIA support of Tibetan uprising at a time US didn't want any communist country to raise in power.
A small entity like Tibet even if comes out of China's grip would still be beholden to the wishes of US or the West that is striving for its freedom for its own vested interests. As we all know US never gives a hoot about freedom. It believes in "either you are with us or with or enemies".
@john bo don't complain next time Iran sends weapons to irak to kill US soldiers and don't complain if other countries send weapons to native Americans to kill white people... Oh the irony...
@john bo Hmm, how Is ethnic nationalism a good thing? as It will only In flare tensions In the region....
I think the biggest misconception the western civilization have of China, is China is ruled under "Communism". Just the same reason why people think Chinese practices Confucianism.
The biggest strength of Chinese culture, and the only reason Chinese civilization survived thousands of years, is the ability to adapt and merge. Modern Confucianism has many traits of Faism, among other political philosophies. Which has ideals directly conflicting with traditional Confucianism.
The reason Chinese still use terminologies from Communism and Socialism, is to prevent drastic social breakdown like what USSR went through. But in reality, Chinese has adapted much from Capitalism. And created a structure transcended Communism years ago when Deng announced reformation.
And the biggest conflict China faces since the first contact from British industrialist fleets, to 2019. Is the west imposes their ideology and structures on to China, and tell the Chinese, "This is how you have to live, and this is how we expect you to behave." And in the context of modernization of social structure, and in a constructive form, new ideas and practice is welcomed. But when imposed? Who do you think you are?
thunderbreak Thanks for the understanding!
Lol "Who do you think you are?" I always ask that when western bigots tries to impose their views. This is pure arrogance on their part.
Theydont have a an epoch mind of toleration or bigboss minded.
I think the only religion we, as Chinese people have ever truly believed, is food.
Yes!
The theory of nation state and civilization state is really mind blowing. Thank you Mr.Jacques. From your speech, I learn more about my own country.
Offtothenorthforwarmth Agree. Shalom
The so-called 5,000 civilizations in mainland China just use very logical and perfect moral slogans. In the long river of history, fraud, theft, and hypocrites who have inconsistent words and deeds, such a nation should completely break its hypocritical appearance and give complete The soul blow, not just the body, gives the most hypocritical oracle bone civilization on the earth the biggest and thorough civilization blow, reducing their influence, reducing the territory they control, and reducing their wealth and power. Make them reflect on their words and deeds. Dirty Chinese culture. It is entirely possible to delete it on Earth.
This remarkable man has been hammering our Western heads about Chinas rise for a long while. Years ago he was on a mission to prepare us for this new world order. Today he is like 'I told you so, are you ready?'
Thank you Mr Jacques for sharing this great speech. You really have a profound knowledge and understanding of Chinese history and culture. I think China not only adopts Confucianism to define common standards for the society and families, but also follows Taoism philosophy for governing the country.
He is a British socialist so that he's very interested in China's rise as an incredible example of the very few successes of socialist countries that are surviving Western conversion.
Taoism is the Chinese philosophy that has nothing to do with governing the country. Legalism is the other philosophy that is applied to governance.
@@lunavoc If the president/leader believes in Confucianism and Taoism, it affects his governance.
China govt has been pushing some pre-communist values including some Confucian one as the family being central unit of society, Traditional medicine... But this all have agenda that supports the regime
Nope... Collapsing as a totalitarian government sending its people into rolling blackouts... Collapsing property prices... spewing out viruses and then lying about it. Raping the oceans of resources and destroying entire eco systems... Making all of China's distrust them or hate them such as India.
Martin is very knowledgeable of China, very impressive. Very nice, clean and precise answers.
@JUST ME HERE you are so brilliant and have this unique logic....why you are not recruited by American think tank or Gov?
@JUST ME HERE follow this logic, American stole a lot from Indian.
@JUST ME HERE Chinese want to steal your 5G technology, but u don't have it.
Sol Dronning you
The interview woman really is a disaster. She's just trying to squeeze her bias about China at every single opportunity she finds. Geez.
I agree! She said life in the west is pretty good right now and life in China is still not that good for everyone. She totally ignored what he said. He said China was rising and the west was falling he wasn't talking about what it was at this moment. This woman is a biased idiot and should not be interviewing anyone.
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Yeah she REALLY doesn't like China lol.
Zen Dr Nichts mit Ihnen zu tun denke ich.
Very typical western mindset.
In the long history of 4,000+ years, China has gone through many ups and downs. Historically, ancient China (Han, Tang, Song, Ming, Qing, etc.) once was the world's No1 power many times. In history, ancient China (the Three Kingdoms, the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, the partition of the North and South Dynasties, the late Qing Dynasty, and the Republic of China during the period of Japanese aggression) also fell to a very low position at one time or another. China has never been hysterical and biting others like a madman for being ranked 2nd, 3rd or lower. China bounced back every time. Unlike the Western powers, China tends to rebound by unifying its own territory and rarely expands or colonizes other countries. Now China is once again in the path of returning its pinnacle of history. China has a peaceful mind with these historical fluctuations. Because China is a mature civilization that is able to view changes in the power rankings of its countries with equanimity.
The United States is very jealous of China's progress. The United States is a sad little country with a history of 200+ years. The United States has been No 1 in the world only once, for a total of less than 100 years. The United States cannot afford to lose. The United States is a country that cannot accept defeat in competition.
it is impossible for a country to be No 1 power forever. China can't, USA can't, no country can. it is naïve to pursue all-time No 1.
I was on a business trip to Richmond last month and occasionally talked about fast-speed trains in China. The Uber driver responded, "That's real?"
Weicong Liang 0_o
Cannot blame the taxi driver. Perception of China is still Mao suits and bicycles.😅
I love how Martin Jacques shuts down the arrogant moralist finger wagging from western "journalists" and false academics. The notion that the West is a shining light and beacon of moral and cultural modelism is absurd and the interviewer as trying to impose those opinions constantly.
Big kudos to Martin Jacques for being objective.
As if the Chinese were not the most paternal morally authoritarian culture in asia. Im sure thats why according to Pew 78% of other nations in East and SE Asia prefer the US even under Trump. Sure China wont make your protect labor or the environment but they sure will make you a peon of the tributary system, bowing to the middle kingdom.
@@tester551000 Puhleez...stop making up stories to fit your colonialist narrative, pinkskin.
@@tester551000 Some people will always choose mouse utopia, which is why universal suffrage was always a mistake. Its the west banning people from travel now, Milo Yanoppoulos can't even visit Australia, why? He upset some feminists. Amazon burns books and now the bay area moral majority are implementing their version of the chinese internet, the west has no moral authority to speak anymore. The dysgenic nature of western society is not a model for anyone who have concerns beyond their own generation.
@@tester551000 Post the link to the generic southeast asian study. Why would I cry about the summer palace? Are you celebrating rape, murder, opportunism, and two-faced actions? Not surprising asswipes like you still exist. You obviously don't know who I am, my politics, or what I believe in. Furthermore, it's in Taiwan so I"m not even sure what ludicrous notion you have in your tiny little head.
Also you're a colonialist nutlicker, obviously, because you if you lived abroad rather than your little semi-collectivist propagandists mudhole, you would know what spectrum of "paternlist" societies exist out there and would know how dumb you sound.
True ,we lost moral beacon rights when we did MKultra atrocities to our own people to see how we could use the results against our "enemies" or even because of pure curiosity and tortured people like it was a righteous activity that yielded real results. I say it was just results they wanted to be able to feed congress and the people and a person who is tortured tends to give the torturer whatever answer they want.
She needs to shut up and let him answer the questions.
Yeah she keeps correcting him and interjecting or "answering" for him. She literally femsplaning it. It's horribly irritating.
oh yeah now I see what you mean, lol
Mkmusic marcos Pathetic loser, lol, you can believe in whatever bullshits propaganda tells you and fake news tells you, and complaining about that “certain people are all bad “, meanwhile we are strengthening our country and developing our economy rapidly. we’ll get you sooner or later. You pathetic full of bias and hatred basement nerd.😜
@zerpashmal No, wrong. The interjection of irrelevant SJW topics into a lecture of global, humanity wide analysis shows the ideological blinders and intellectual narrowness of the woman, as well as yourself. Yes, she and you should shut up.
I don't watch Fox News because there are plenty like her.
When I listen to her 1st question to Martin, I am sure she is still living in 70's, so that's why we need people like Martin to pull them back from stone ages!
The interviewer has huge bias and speaks out of turn that even aggravated Martin ... :) the readiness to hate swells in her already immense mass.
what would you expect from a cow? they don't need a signal to spew methane gas
The term is femiNAZI
Calling someone a cow or Nazi is impolite, and she maybe has had many children so has great excuse for being unfit, and being accepting of women getting plump is why the Indians are nicely still having 3+ kids per woman unlike the 1.1 for Chinese and 1.8 for White Americans, so you are being mean and unwise. Jerks.
@@amyself6678 We insult her for her attitude and her impoliteness. Nobody came there to hear here answer questions for the quest speaker ffs.
Alex Russell ... I am not about verbal abuse...but sadly this person ready inspires hate... and her mass and hatred/ignorance are an amazing combination. If she wasn’t this obese maybe she wouldn’t be so hateful?
I hope this anecdote will not be seen as lowering the tone; it seems to me to be in line with Mr Jacques's point of China as a civilisation state with a long cultural history, - In the late 1990s I was given the task of getting a Mandarin speaking Chinese student through an obligatory English exam so that he could get a place in a British university where his very high level ability in maths could be fostered. A compulsory part of the English exam was a question on a play by Shakespeare (Macbeth in that year). I felt it incumbent on me to convey the idea that the text he was about to study would not be in the English he was encountering in every day speech and print, so I began by writing "W, Shakespeare: 1564-1616." - He looked at this, looked back at me and grinned. "Ah yes," he said, "Modern Literature."
ROTFL
A matter of perspective, isn't it?
LOL, a child born in an old country is old at his birth.
David Wallace shows how ridiculously outdated the English education system is if they are still teaching Shakespeare.
@@glennt1962 what, Shakespeare is outdated?!?
@@glennt1962 shakespeare is taught to all american students as well. at least it was
Just found this channel, pretty amazing!
Just found this channel one year in the future!
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Martin has been brainwashed.he has no idea of the endgame and chinas infiltration into key administrative positions globaly
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Anyone notice how the moderator feels compelled to dampen any good news or commendable features relating to China?
That ppt is almost the same one he used 8 years ago，in a TED speech.8 years passed,we have learned much more about west.But the west still know little about us.
pity.
mua hahahahahhaha, soung like a nice deal.
Correct, the West is still slow to wake up to the reality of Chinas rise and adjust accordingly. This is why we have to be taught the same old but very insightful and prophetic ppt material.
knowledge system
But judging from recent events between USA-China, USA's elites are fully awared of China and how challenging Western's position because the rise of sleeping dragon, and thus is the reason they began the Trade war.
@@leonleon2021 they can do nothing just bully
I think Martin got everything right. Proud to see the Brits still has a good hold of geopolitical issues and understandings. It's always hard to understand people completely different from oneself. Good job Martin!
Zhenyu Xia The British still have that ability to understand different people and cultures...that is what made them an empire years back.Unfortunately their counterparts,the Americans...are usually ignorant..
The British hv longer histories than the America.
看到最后确实厉害，真是抓住了中国目前问题真正的痛点：债务和发展不均衡。
最根本还是要从严治党。只有这样才能解决上述两个问题
这才是考验治国指挥的地方，不然要政府干什么！我们信任它就得了！
确实。真的有点厉害。还有，妇女撑起半边天，连这个他都知道。。
其实中国发展最需要的是安稳的环境和民心团结，其次是时间，但是这些美国佬都不愿意，因为他怕中国崛起威胁他自己的利益，万恶的资本主义
债务真没什么，欠钱的才是大爷，比如美国，经济上真正的痛点有三，人民币国际化，这些年其实是失败的，地位实在是太低，和经济规模完全不成比例，但是又跟腐败和精神洋人有关。第二房价，第三制造2025。制度上不提，这三个能做的不错，未来可期。
对于国内言论的各种限制，恶心到不行才来到外网的，出来后几个月的经过思想斗争，我明白国内为什么限制了， 国家越强大 个人越自由 中国加油
哈哈哈，加我一个，我是8多年前出墙的，现在及其爱国
看来爱国主义教育基地确实是真的。未来更多的年轻人对于共产主义的理解应该会更深，国家会更强大，爱国将不需要刻意教育。
中国人很多可以看懂英语，但是外国人很少能阅读中文，而且在国际媒体上我们实在没有什么优势，如果开放了网络，对外宣传上我们简直是被碾压，只好封了
凌波微步 真的，我以前高中对国家指手画脚，各种不满意，现在上大学了才知道外面也不是什么好地方，现在就希望我们的祖国越来越强大
外媒真他妈恶心！哈哈哈
In ming dynasty, Chinese officials with most advanced navy obtained what they wanted through exchange but not robbery by force. The powerful navy force was only for defence but not colony, which was cofirmed by the relics in the muesum.😃😃😃respect to the Ancient Chinese.
stone aussie: Your advance navy in Ming dynasty must be the 317 naval ships commanded by Zheng He in his 7 voyages abroad. Unfortunately the said navy might just be a hoax according to this article titled 郑和下西洋是一个被无限夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传, published here: blog.boxun.com/hero/201302/feihuduiwenji/5_1.shtml.
@@whkwole6842 nobody gonna trust u bitch
stone aussie, Ancient Chinese invaded its neighbors, move Han people over neighbor countries and wipeout that country.
Because China have never invaded anyone. Other than Canton and Tibet and Vietnam, and East Turkestan, Nepal, Manchuria and itself a few times. But no they never used there military aggressively for all theses places that were independent in living memory have been Chinese Territory since ancient times.
But what is wrong with colonization itself? Take Britain for instance, her colonization of India brought more benefits to the continent than ills. It abolished the barbaric practices of widow burning, helped the Indian people to restore their culture which was always eliminated by the Islamic invasion. And it laid the foundation for democracy, rule of law and civil service system. Of course there has been really bad instances of colonization, such as the Japanese colonization of Korea, Taiwan and Guam, the Philippines. It brought no civilization, because at the time it was itself not civilized.
I like the moderator lady, she represents the sort of mainstream opinions that how westerns think about China which is the guarantee that China can keep developing fast than the rest.
Sun Tzu - when your enemies are making mistakes you don't remind them
It is very clear that the host has her own mindset and she was determined to make sure the talk stays in her course.
She at times digress and he stays on course.
Yes... Truly disappointed in her obvious agenda...
Is obvious she dislike China. She's is closed minded and brain washed by her own media reporting.
I just discover this Chanel amazing !
I'm a Chinese raised to be proud of the Chinese cultural heritage and lived in the US for over 20 years. I see many of the great things the Western civilization has achieved, but also much misunderstanding of the Chinese culture and nation. Mr. Jacques is a rare scholar who speaks fairly with deeper understanding of China than most western “experts”. I see that he is hoping the west will understand China objectively rather than always with a western bias; if not, it’s the west that will be caught surprised and confused, not China.
Very, very clearly and beautifully presented. Incredibly insightful and arresting. Thanks so much for posting.
The moderator is so subjective one can smell her position and the answer she wants to hear...and I can’t agree more about culture being lost during the course of modernization. She talks about ethnic minorities in Yunnan feeling sad about losing their cultural uniqueness. I have to say China as a whole actually gave up a lot of it’s uniqueness in order to survive in western dominance in the past few centuries. I even feel sad about myself having to study English and western values (obviously not my culture)in order to have a brighter future. I wonder if she feels sorry for me.
She and people like her are the main reason that the a West is in decline. They are closed minded idiots who can never improve not change.
@Sagess Aries Don't over trust the media. If you travel to China, you will find that it's totally different from what the media described.And I believe that no company in any country has ever had a scandal.A recent EWG discovered that oats contain herbicides.The highest levels of carcinogenic herbicide Quaker were detected in many oat products in the United States.Forty-three of 45 oats had herbicides. Cancer-causing herbicides have been detected in many oat products in the United States, and Quaker has the highest content.
Are you sorry for yourself ? For your life position of now ?
Ehem, Cultural revolution wrecked Chinese culture, not Western powers, as Chinese culture lives on in Taiwan and Hongkong, two places with stronger connections to western powers than China ever had.
@the sss population size does not dictate a nations power.
This is so educational and informative. Thank you Martin.
Very insightful and unusually fair and unbiased... You, sir, are exactly what western world really needs...
Sure... some bootlickers who will bow without resistence to the subhuman monsters who pay you 50 cent an hour to troll around! The west would offer you freedom, not just a bowl of ramen! How about that?
13:03 so is it said about the movie The Wandering Earth, Chinese people are always linked to homeland.
By internet.
There is a tradition in China called 落叶归根, meaning the fallen(落) leaf（叶） returns to（归） root（根）. All my ancestors and family members that passed away are buried really close to where we were born. We have a long history based on paying respect to ancestors. My family legend dates back to the first tribes that started Chinese civilization 5000 years ago, and my last name can be found in 3000-year-old excavated stone tiles from ancient shipwrecks and bronze artifacts back in the bronze age. Homeland is sacred in Chinese culture. After seeing the physical evidence of how my last name was recorded in history since 3000 years ago, it's hard not to feel the commitment to protect its legacy.
@@liangjiang3122 Fallen leaves can hardly return to their roots, as they often are drifted away by the wind.
@@maeudaou7347 You are indeed a fallen leaf, gone with the wind.
@@zhaoxiaoying9894 Fallen leaves return to the root is an ideology, a dedication, a tradition, not a description of nature.
When China promotes win-win cooperation, we reallly mean both sides wins. The US would interpret it as China would win two times. This is the difference between the two culture.
That is a communist lie. It is not a matter of culture, it is a matter of ideology.
@@maeudaou7347 First of all, a society of total equality is a utopia, which only exists in someone's dream, a communist's pipe dream perhaps. Democracy does not work well anywhere by the utopian standard, but it works well enough. Especially it works far better than any other form of governance, which has been proven repeatedly. The poorest people in America are far better off than the poor people in the communist China, who are literally slaves. In fact the US helped numerous counties to build their economy, Europe, Japan, South Korea, China after cultural revolution, Iraq, to name a few.
@@maeudaou7347 No! The Chinese love the US. Even the Chinese communist party officials are deeply in love with the US, this is why they all send their kids and their concubines to the US along with the their money. Obviously they trust the US and therefore not believe it lies. You have probably been lied to by the self hate Western media or the communist propaganda.
pigs will fly
China means win now and win later, while everyone slowly dies from a thousand cuts
twitter.com/firstmove/status/1108435432885415936
Great speech; he shows a refreshing view of the future; we need to wake up to reality.
With respect, China is not "rising," nor is USA "declining." Rather, China (and Asia), is going through a process of "rebirth," while USA's relative power - by contrast to that of China and the rest of the world - no longer extends quite as far as it used to. China and India both regard the previous 200 years (i.e., Western dominance), as an aberration, and now as the per capita GDP values of China and Asia continue to mature and grow during this rebirth process, there will eventually be a magnitude of 'presence' and 'influence' emanating from China and Asia that will be unlike anything ever before experienced by the world. Napoleon knew this in 1806 ("Let China sleep"), and now the U.S. and the West need to reexamine their situations relative to a transformed distribution of capabilities and power throughout the geopolitical realm. USA is no longer the undisputed Top Dog, so to speak, and given that USA is only 5% of global demographics, eventually its economic and other influence will more closely match that 5% value than the considerably larger percentage it enjoyed during the 20th century. Bottom line, USA now needs to support and strengthen international institutions and coalitions more than ever, so as to help it to retain a voice and/or impact within the transforming arena of geopolitics; by contrast, its current provocative dallience with unilateral foolishness is counter-productive and even dangerous.
Isn't what you're describing exactly what Martin said, just put in different words? He did answer the host's first question by refuting that the US and Western Europe are declining on an absolute scale, but simply that their relative global proportion is decreasing.
You can see the source why the US is treating China as a threat from the Q&A section, not even Martin get the idea of minority political decisions, even it is so obvious in Chinese sight
The society will move forward, and the changes will be more dynamic and dramatic, it will certainly rise lots of social conflicts that without the solution, and the religion and culture that cannot adopt or even said fall to a degree that will harm the future stability of the whole society will be considered a threat of China, not to mention many of those Uyghur and Tibetans turned terrorist way before the West utilized them as a weapons.
From the Q&A section we can see how brainwashed or misinformed of those so-called professionals, the only thing they see is a human-right violation which is completely false and viewing instance as a point instead of line, with no context and twisted information ( funny the female host use "the reporter" as the legit source base of their information, and we all know what those "reporters" have been doing to China for decades) it is scary that a nation like the US which is controlling the internet yet its people could be undergoing such massive public brainwashing status without even questioning (lack of the skills or lack of the mind?), while the Chinese with the great firewall can reach the truth deep down.
It is not China that killing the west, it is those Baizuo that created by its own media killing the west, what an ironic civilization.
@@nessmess500 我打赌你能看懂我说的话。以我个人的经历，所有提醒我练英语的人都懂汉语，不懂汉语的人从来都不会挑我英语水平的刺。至于你的这些问题，不如去问那些在恐怖袭击中受伤甚至丧命的受害人。
As said "The Chinese universalism is staying home, the western universalism is going to overseas", as a Chinese I agreed.
Lol
Who said this? Misleading. How about ' one belt one road '.
@@middalai6611 A fundamental difference, one belt one road is an initiative to help the development of others and gain economic growth from it, a win-win situation, like trading. The western "go overseas" have proven to be an invasion, slavery, conquer, civilization destroyer and massacre true even nowadays. Unfortunately, the west almost cannot grow anymore because there are fewer countries they can bully.
@@middalai6611 every heard of "how many rounds of freedom per second this apache helicopter can shoot" thats pretty much how the west export their trades. US got out of the grrat depression due to ww2 stimulating their economy dramatically. They've since followed that model.
China always kept to itself, it is the ones that trades with it that brings its culture to where they live. Japan tried to export their way by invasion, but guess what nobody talks about how devilish they are, whereas, China never exported aggression overseas before. This is probably due to them not being submissive to the west.
@@alfredchen4579 but many poor ppl still believe its debt trap ,hows we explain this ?
America can’t stop the rise of 🇨🇳 China, which is so true! Thanks 🙏 Martin for your full understanding of 🇨🇳 China and introduction of 🇨🇳 to the world!
Corona?
Every Human and Dogs is Learning from one another. Every Country needs to Copy from You n copy from Me.
The World wait n see who is stronger can steal away n eat. BABA Black Sheep.
This was a very informative Lecture on CHINA.The Lecturer's explanation was right on target.
Just curious...how would you know if Martin was right or wrong?
Titus P by travelling outside of your country more. Travel to China, make Chinese and ask them.
He's such a smart man. Respect from a Chinese student in the US.
If China is so great why are you in school at USA
@@dirkdiggler9379 you won't get better and have bigger perspectives when you live in a box
@@dirkdiggler9379 Is USA is so great why is all their medicine made in China
Bran Hen because it’s cheaper lol.
Brian McCoy 多读书多学习吧。自以为是没什么好处。
Allow me to enlighten you all:
Both China and India are reclaiming their lost glories as the world's largest trading nations until 300 years ago. We in our western hemisphere should accept this eventuality, especially we Americans should be happy to settle at 3rd place. No power can stop those two nations because 21st century belongs to Asia!😇
Fuck y’all
@@anthonycarlucci7464 Go do that to yourself, you imbecile!😂
Martin, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and observation on China. I really enjoyed listening to your talk shows on China. Your talk shows carried weight and depth! Please keep up with your good efforts!
很戏剧性。看着这个人演讲，然后听到这个女主持人和观众的提问，隐约体会到当年的‘睁眼看世界第一人’
看看台下问的那些问题 和主持人鲜明的anti China 立场😂😂还是二十年前老一套说辞
Martin应该都无语了，合着我讲了半天白说了
不能怪台下这些人，大概他们真的想不出别的问题了
@@xiongyuhao8831 最蛋疼的是明明其实大多数国外人都是友好的 开放的 但是他们内心深处的想法和这种女的没什么区别。。。。。
@@frankyang1834 偏见一直都在，希望以后从咱们国家的行动，国民的行动，可以慢慢改变这种偏见，至少在普通民众中是这样的
XIONG YUHAO 那个女人是印度人嘛！
Those journalists with pre- existing opinions and asking lead or loaded questions are a disgrace for this profession.
Oh, wait...
She is not a journalist ...she is just a hateful ignorant person ...that is being very generous;)
She’s no damn journalist, she and her group are the organization that Behind“ East Turkistan terrorist organization” and various other foreign corporations constantly planing divide the China apart, Judge from her looking, she probably a extremes Feminist or a top member of Antifa too. A lot of kind-hearted young passion liberals were incited and effected by this type of toxic people, and they turned into violence Antifa members which divided America people into two extremes and hating each other.
Typical western "journalist". Close minded, ignorant and brain washed.
Waar meesha maxaad ka guraysaa
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From Humanity stand point any nation's rise specially a large nation the size of China is a good thing just by looking at how many people are out of extreme poverty; however from Western and specially US stand point a large nation's rise is a bad thing because it threatens Western dominance in the world's affairs.
This professor knows china better than many Chinese, including myself. Very broad vision profound knowledge about the culture, history, economy, and problems.
The interviewer is an Indian American woman. I rest my case on her views towards China.
She is American washed and wanna be.
China does have many problems but they sure do take actions to reform before becoming a serious threat, while the US has been in decline for decades and no resolution for any of its major problems, no reform is possible with the political stalemate and it just goes down and down!
Pat It’s true China has reformed economically, but not politically. In fact it’s gone backwards in the last 6 years or so politically. US’s problem is the ultra liberalism.
Only the superstar Martin is happy about and proud of China’s amazing achievements. Everyone else seems jealous of China’s rise. You can always find small or minor issues here or there in any country. No country is perfect! It’s all about relativity and speed and direction of the progress!
Everyone is just worried you will come and censor and imprison us like you do your own citizens.
clray123
Like Europeans and all its genocides? China is far better
Richard News to you, we don't censor Internet or put people them into camps because of their political views here in Europe.
@@r.282 Genocides? I see European's are still outnumbered population-wise, if they really went after genocide either they would all be dead or all their enemies would be.
Excellent presentation with clearly understanding without biases in China history and her achievements. Thank you Mr. Martin Jacques.
The West has much to learn from the worlds oldest Civilization. Many in the West said the Chinese Civilization ended in 1949. This has been true even in schools of learning. What a fresh breath of air.
Chinese civilization didn't end in 1949. Marxism ended in 1978.
COMMIES ARE SCARED OF GIVING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ASSEMBLY, PRESS AND FROM WANT CUZ THEY ARE APARTHIED RACIST SYSTEM.
Fantastic presentation.
Westerners keep harping on Xinjiang and Tibet as if they were the only minorities. The fact is China has many many minorities. The real question is, why the trouble with ONLY Tibet and Xinjiang? The distinguishing feature is Separatism in these areas. The Chinese Government is quite happy for any of its minorities to practise its own culture and religion so long as there is no threat of Separatism. Look at the Mongol, Hui, Yunnan minorities etc. Separatism is the one issue that the Chinese government is deathly afraid of, so one can see its very vigorous response, some say over reaction.
As will most other countries dealing with separatism, it is futile for separatism when China is strong and the will of the people is for a united and peaceful country.
I have never been to Xinjiang but I travelled to Tibet last year. I think the Tibetans in Tibet are quite peaceful. It's just those exile former "high class"
tibetans living in india have issues
Tibet is an occupied country under Beijing. Chinese didn't want to be under Tokyo so does Tibetans.
@@petagonkyi
That was more than 300 years ago, longer than US founded. The US gives Huwaii, Guan, Texax ,Calforinia and the whole North American back to native indians.
@@petagonkyi How about give all the land back to nature, there was no people anywhere outside of Africa 100, 000 years ago!
Mr. Martin is British. Sinology research was also initiated by Britain in the West.
More than a hundred years ago, the British also woke China from their sleep (although the method used was very rude)
The relationship between Britain and China is really delicate ...
the woman is a disaster... she has so little knowledge and biased view of China... she went over with presumptions without knowing much of the language and culture there
the worst is she shows little respect to the guests, both the professor and audiences.
What do u expect.. indian never like the chinese..
Funny that the majority China haters have never been to China, or not even been outside their own country.
36:00 Latest news today 13/04/2019, the rail project has been restarted with a lower budget and lower level equipment.
..talking about Urban vs Rural Inequality, you should come to California. Visit the tent cities near Anaheim Stadium in Los Angeles. You can't miss it. Gaslamp San Diego (America's Finest Tent City), you see living standard inequality there also. San Jose is scary. You must not have come to California before you completed your thesis.
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In the USA, our poor live like the worlds middle class. Go look it up. I was born and raised in California and you can make great money there but what really kills you is the rent and taxes.
@@meganh9460 same here in Australia!
@@johndefriee1982 What a beautiful country. Went when I was 10, that time when everything looked like it came through a snap chat filter.
The inequality is way more crazy in the US. The host is obviously above middle class, and pretentiously assume that every US citizen lives in fancy live as herself. But if she really go to some area such as LA downtown, she could easily see many poor homeless people lived in camp or street.
Thanks for the talk. You know a lot about china. Respect from Xiaan China.
I was in Yunnan 4 months ago. I lived with the ethnic groups there. I ate with them and celebrated their New Year (in November) with them. The ethnic groups are happy. The Hans respect them. Many have close friendships. I am a Han descendant. Even though I don't speak Mandarin well since I grew up in Canada, they welcomed me to their village and homes. This host (or journalist as she refers herself as) is pushing the audience to think otherwise.
政府政策就是,只要宗教不干预政治,民族问题,不涉及分裂主义问题.这就是一般人中国人的政治底线.
Hi I'm a Chinese Malaysian by the way. My grandfather came to Malaysia back in the 1930s when China was still in their Century of Humiliation period. I just wanna share my thoughts about living in a former British colony like Malaysia and how I "rediscovered" myself as en ethnic Chinese. My name is Edwin, it was a given name since birth, apart from my Chinese name. My dad has an English name too even though we are not Christians. In Malaysia, ethnic Chinese having an English name whether they're Christians or not are pretty common. I guess that's the effect of colonialism. Many of us (Chinese Malaysians) adopt an English name to appear more "cosmopolitan", more modern"" as we associate being more Western as being more modern. There is no other type of modernity to us apart from Western. But in the last decade, I have personally studied a lot about Chinese history and culture. I realised China was a much more civilised and advanced nation for most part of world history. They just got it wrong for the past 150 years. One of the Ted talk given by Martin Jacques a few years ago tittled "When China rules the world" really changed my world view. China today is rising to becoming how it was for most part of history, I had a real paradigm shift on how I should I identify myself too. My English name Edwin, is probably not a necessary given name. I started to think why should my family adopt an additional Western name? These names actually have no cultural significance to ours at all. If I were to have kids in the future, I will not give them an extra English/Western names. My future family should be proud of their real names instead. I am glad to discover people like Martin Jacques who really understand China.
@@ELGtheMAN Thank you for sharing your story. All overseas Chinese are very welcomed in China. That is my experience every time when I go there. And China is so safe and people are so positive. I was so lost after spending almost all my life here in Canada. No matter how hard I work, I will always be 2nd class here. But when I went to China for the first time, I was in tears when I left. Because I have finally found my people who genuinely wanted me to succeed. I am planning to move there and back to where my spirit belongs.
@@keawewong6110 hi Mr Wong. It's my pleasure really. I really do wanna visit my ancestral home one day in Hainan island and also to the mainland. By the way do you have an instagram or something whereby I could see how's your life in China? I added you Keawe Wong at instagram, I'm not sure whether it's you. My instagram is edwin_elg.
@youcometome9 hahaha..here comes another "expert" on China. More like hater.
学者还是不一样点，更全面理性些。主持人就有些偏见了。不过多交流是好的。在商业化和现代化的过程中，每一个民族都会有文化的迷失，但是世界是向前发展的。不要倒退哦。
This guy knows things about China.
But only tells things that are approved by the communist party, of course. Otherwise he'll lose his visiting professorships.
What a brilliant lecture by an amazing man! I wonder what he has to say one year later, in March 2020...
Yes. The West just do not seem to understand.
@@MsStar266 中方也是
There are two sides to every story.
@@vladivanov5500 I think China knows more about the West than the West knows about China,
Go Superstar Martin!
The professor do know about China and the West. The most important thing is he explain a complex China to the western audience in a lucid way. I do agree with him on China insensitive handling of the Xinjiang and Tibet region .
China acted In a rational way considering the early "freedom Fighters" were CIA plants trained and supplied. It was an act of war In a way by the US Interfering and as a result It was dealt like such.
zerpashmal yo bruh quit throwing alternative facts like there is no tomorrow. The autonomous regions are largely inhibited by Han Chinese except in Tibet and Xinjing.
Very much looking forward to Martin Jacques’ next book.
Z Z - nah. Just curious and literate.
2021: question answered
I think the professor's researches focus more on macro (such as history and culture) rather than micro (such as demographics and statistics) aspects of China. And apparently, some people did not ask the right questions, such as the ones regarding women, minority, etc. For these questions, just do some basic research online and you do not need to ask a professor. 1. The question about women. There are more female students than male students in China. According to World Bank statistics, in 2018, 43.6 % of the workforce in China was female and 46% was female in the U.S. I guess the major reason why the question was asked is that there seems to be a smaller portion of political leaders/CEOs (i.e., higher level management roles) in China than that in the west world. This just takes time to evolve. Remember that it takes the west world dozen of years, if not centuries, to become what you see today. 2. The question about minorities. There are over 50 minority ethnicities in China. All of them are in harmony with the giant society except for some Tibetans and Uyghurs. Why is that? It's simply because they are used as a tool by the outsiders (such as the western countries and the middle east countries) to bring disturbance to China. China wants order and hates chaos. However, if you want peace, prepare for war.
@M P Certainly you don't understand the true wisdom of Chinese phylosophy, there is an old saying, perfectly describes the core mentality of being a strong benevolent figure: never plan to harm others, but always plan to prevent others harming us. The saying of peace and preparation for war basically says the same thing.
it is clear that none in the west understands the issues on tibet and xinjiang.
As well as underestimate those so-called "religious conflicts". If certain groups of people get armed and attack random people from the streets, it's called terrorism. And China try to teach them forgo those brainwashed doctrine and learn basic skills to go back the society. As for Tibet, Lama is the owner of tons of slave but pretend to be nice in front of camera.
this moderator has completely lost her role. She will be satisfied in one of the china bashing events. It's painfully obvious that she has her piece of mind.
Or maybe she was just reacting to the excessively complimentary picture given by the speaker.
@@clray123 she is still a moderator not a debate opponent. The professor is presenting his argument with facts and statistics. When the professor says 90% are Han Chinese which includes so non Han minorities, she asked where the professor get his stat from, rudely! I suggest her to pull out her phone and look it up in Wikipedia to see how much of China's population is Han Chinese.
What the professor is doing is relentless cherry-picking of facts and statistics to support his rosy narrative. Notice how he follows every negative remark with a BUT... and then goes on praising. He's a puppet.
@@clray123 The "but" is mainly for people like you to attack him less. It takes real guts to come out and paint a picture that is not approved by the mainstream media. Academics like him are tantamount to the so-called communist sympathizers in the 60s. It's real risk to their career. Just ask professor Jeffery Sachs he's effectively censored and had to shut down his twitter. If you accuse the professor cherry-picking his facts, I supposed you got alternative statistics. Do share! accusing him using "but" too much does not justify your accusation.
BUT his picture is very much approved by Chinese mainstream media... Also, he IS a communist sympathizer, he was chief editor of Marxism Today for a long time.
I don't think anyone from the West who talks about the conflicts of Xinjiang Uighurs as if it's the fault of the Chinese government knows what they are talking about. For the basic: Uighurs are not the only nor the original residents of Xinjiang. While relative majority, they account for just about 40% of the population.
The fact is the majority of people living in Xinjiang (including many Uighurs) DO identify themselves as part of the Chinese civilization. It is really the fault of the West that they only talk to the few dissidents/terrorists from Uighurs. I mean if I talk only to the neo-Nazis, I'd come to the conclusion that the German government today is guilty of suppression the real Aryans, wouldn't I?
Wonderfully put and clearly explained, really made me think of small minded we are in UK. But I blame our media as they never seems to show news from the rest of the world now, they did before!!
Great talk, I am confident to say that he is one of the rare that really gets us on many topics. Even some of the points, we, as Chinese never actually think about it...
USA -> Domination Victory
Middle-east -> Religious Victory
China -> Cultural Victory
the old civilazation gamer lol
谢谢您 Martin Jacques，海量的知识面和公正的言论评价了中国，世界需要这样正确的态度，而不是常用的抹黑和抨击！所以我觉得我必须用中文来表示对您的尊重！
Gee it's almost as if this comment section is overrun by people who might be doing the work of some undisclosed government that is hostile to criticism
When i was young and at the age of school, just misunderstood the reasons of blocking the external internet. After few years stayed in abroad , which means now, i could say im definitely a patriot. The Chinese Gov didn't stop us knowing the outside world, but protect us from the rumors and deceptions.
Most people in the west see China as a threat, when China is treating their partners and friends with respect, unlike the west do the opposite. I see strong China a good thing for everyone.
Tell that to the Tibetans, the Uyghurs and the Taiwanese...
You sir, are woefully misinformed. China treats its partners and friends with respect? Well, if by respect you mean not holding its end of pretty much every major commitment its pledged itself to. Such as their pledge to halt IP and technology transfers of companies operating in China, reducing export subsidies, halting intellectual property theft, abiding by the technical barriers of trade agreement set forth by the WTO, refraining from currency manipulation, And, of course, opening its markets to the world like the world has done for China. If thats what you mean by respect, then yes, China is just overflowing with "respect" for the world. China, just like North Korea, will say anything they have to in order to advance their position on the world stage; however, they rarely live up to their end of the bargain.
我为什么要翻墙来接受爱国教育…一个半小时都看完了…
因為這不是愛國教育？
@@賴志偉-d7h 是人文教育，教地球村子里狹隘的一部分尊重接受更狹隘的另一部分
洒家是为了学英国老鼠🐭
I'm currently learning Mandarin so I'll come back when I can read this haha
@@josephhill2868 Be sure to translate for the rest of us!!!