@TkAnakin hey man, youre using my main character Steve. And its interesting how easy it was for you to get to Tekken GoD, with just the basics. Alot of people just duck and you took advantage of it. 👌🏾 Nice.
Thats true, steve is my main in all of the tekken games i started this year im now at brown ranks "Vanquisher" i play it sometimes i play fortnite more
Knee: "I initially said Steve is bad. But in Pakistan, Arslan, Atif, and a player called Numan CH who is very good at Paul and Steve - They said Steve is good. I said, "Oh really?" and I asked Atif, "If you're playing in a tournament, you think you'll pick Steve?" and he was like "No". So I laughed and said "Yeah, I think Steve is fine for ranked matches too". I mean, in ranked you can climb by playing enough matches. But in tournaments? Atif said "No." That's what I thought, I'm not going to play Steve in tournaments either."
Steve definitetly suffers from the still playin T7 problem. Lion Heart needs buffs. If you know the matchup it's literally a mixup stance that puts steve at disadvantage. If you know to power crush it then all he can do is attempt to dodge your power crush or do the 1f kara cancel to PKB.
@@mdanialsanchez pretty sure the pkb cancel everyone's been talking about can ONLY be execute if the first 3 before 3+4 is exactly 1f before inputting the 4. Which in my mind is nor consistent enough to be competitively viable as a tactic.
Man I'm just gonna say it.. Steve needs a huge buff. I know they made him good in all the other Tekkens, but holy shit he is a massive let down in Tekken 8.
@@yungmaui4876 Wild statement considering we aren't the ones who design the characters. I mean do you really want steve to only have one weakness ...AGAIN?
The lionheart cancel tech is game-changing no? It finally gives options against powercrush which just beats everything and you have high mid low and throw options, I thought it was pretty significant
It's too much work to call out a power crush from + 7 with a throw. The mid and throw can also get backdashed after stomp when you can just weave most power crushes anyways. From +11 heatsmash is good though I guess. If they buffed lnh frames or guardbreak reward lnh would be usable
Its borderline useless, Steve still mixes himself up, just from a different angle, if he does it, while being insanely hard to realistically use in a match.
It would make Steve a thousand times better if the tech was absolutely easier to do because you're gonna mess up trying it online or in match no matter how much you practice. The timing of it is dumb
Even before the tech he can still duck cancel from lionheart to block anything. Its only really good if u can do it fast enough to take advantage of the frame which is veryyyy strict
Can't figure the gameplan for Steve. Like, not really good lows, suicidal lionheart stance (i don't know, if the pkb cancel still exist, i couldn't make it work even once), no simple launcher, counterhits are too hard to hitconfirm (at least those that i've seen, may be i just don't know something), damage is mediocre at best, almost no plus frames, range on most hits is not good either, character demands very high execution and doesn't really offer something good in exchange. Gonna keep practice though, what else can i do, i like the character...
Just imagine ... That grabs are better than steves b1 now. I understand they tried to keep the character original along with the new addition of lionheart .. but its just not enough They could had at least buff his poking game to help him a bit especially the lows. Could had give him a plus frame mid .. maybe not as tracking as feng new move
They should remove Lion heart after db3,2, bring back knockdown and guaranteed 3+4 d2. There is no reason to duck Steve in T8. That's why Anakin was so surprised when that Reina was so scared of stomp. Low pokes are ok. D1 , FC.df+1 and especially d2,1 is now even stronger because low parries are nerfed in T8. Another thing they should maybe change is easier input for 2 break grab. Something like db2+4 or 2+4b.
Steve has the same problems as always, but now they've been amplified by the stronger movement across the board and having a pretty underwhelming heat mode compared to others. Back one and down back 3 still go brrrr though.
@DDP637 try it in heat. Lion heart having the auto parry will really check people who don't know and try to punish the string like normal. But yeah, not great anymore in the neutral.
B1 isn't like what it used to be.. he's pretty trash tbh compared to what most of the cast gets. I guess because he has been good for so long they decided to gut the character
Back1 has a fat hitbox now. And rocket punch, sonic fang, running2 heat is great. I think he's underrated now and still great. Mad they took away the shiro though df2 is hella mid now.
Steve is balanced which is a problem because most other chars arent. He only needs 3 things to make him viable on a more consistent level. 1. Grab from lionheart that goes into 2 faced without heat. While adding a 1+2 option that launches by using his torando up as the pop up. 2. PAB d+2 being an i22 startup 3. Always counter mids during Lionheart and during heat counter mids AND highs. ***bonus*** making CH B1 15 dmg
As a person who has loved playing steve since he came out and actually taking Tekken seriously when T8 came out, I really feel like Steve just gets beat out so easily by anyone who decided to just sit back and wall Steve out. So many times, I will bust my heat smash on their block and they just simply power crush or use their rage art for the win.
You should approach his heat smash differently. if you have heat you have more than just your heat smash for plus frames. I use his heat smash for whiff punishing ONLY.
Them not giving him any new usable lows hurts. I take advantage of qcf2 being able to be done from crouching and also try me best to land heat engagers. Then I can encourage them to crouch from using the heat exclusive duck throw
Bro if they block your heat smash (+8)and you have a read that they will press something mash 1 immediately (don't delay it!) this will always beat Rage Art, Burst or any Power Crush. If they block it you will lose your turn, but you're still safe at -9. You have to remember that after some moves you are in Lion heart, but +8 (blocked HS) +11 (ws2,2 and f2,2 on hit) +14 (ub2 on hit) In these situations armor moves can't do shit to you. Only when you're +7 (db3,2 b1,2 etc) or +3 armor moves unfortunately beat every single LH option. Of course some characters can parry your Lion Heart 1, but very unlikely in FT2 set.
steve got nerfed giga hard but his new ub3 into lionheart is suuper good catches even people who know the matchup because it’s new and not used that much. also his powercrush is super good 4 or 3 12 is also super good at the wall everything else is mid at max haha he could stay like this if the top tier get nerfed otherwise he needs some dmg buff.
Lion heart is the problem… also saying Steve was broken?… really… where?… we just gonna ignore the actual broken characters? Cuz Steve was never one of them just very strong in the right hands where Akuma, kuni, prekilled fakum, prekilled Leroy, Noctis, could actually be considered broken
Even though Steve isn’t top tier or supposedly that good I just watched you shit on everyone with the basics. It’s really all you need man you won with like 112 and sonic fang damn I need to do less to get more
@@TkAnakin I am jammed at battle ruler I need to get into the matchups to be more comfortable. Ill hit a while standing12, jab, and they will just mash while standing and launch , I have to get my situations down. Sometimes I get clipped and feel like i have no control lol. Steves i13 mid isnt huge reward, sonic fang is nuts at -14 but negative. I just got to put in the work
@@TkAnakinInsane skills bro. Smoked S tier characters even without optimal combos. That Sonic Fang heat dash connected every single time. It looked like you have access to T7 Rage drive or some shit 🤪
@@Edcas1226df1 is still a good poke. Animation looks like it doesn't have range, but actually it's reaching far with descent hitbox. 2 has a really good range in T8, but for some reason I always forget to use it more for punish, and whiffing 1,1,2 sometimes 🤦♂️
b1 still broken: ch launches, safe on whiff. Also has the low plus on hit low that frame traps into a ch launcher. That's all you need for the character to be broken tbh. Just because he lost d/f+2 homing and combo and lost the KND from hellsweep just means he's less broken, it doesn't make him not a broken top tier.
@@dripfoe_3307 _"you just suck at the match up. Stop pressing so damn much"_ Nice personal attacks instead of arguments why what I said is wrong, kid. This makes me wonder, what's your rank? Probably just another one of those green-purple ranks, which never played against a good player in their life and never even managed to win against mediocre players to get to a good rank, but thinks that he understands the game. Hits close to home, doesn't it?
U cannot put this guy as “top tier” and have idiot designed characters like t8 dragunov who can mash their brains out with endless plus frames. Not even remotely close in strength.
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He not top tier but he literally the only character I play just for the simple fact he's a boxer
Facts been that way since ttt2, my first tekken.
He has the styles of all the greats like Ali, Tyson, Holmes, etc, put into one dude. I love this fucking fella.
@@PitbullPuppy12bro tried to sneak in holmes
Same
How my man makes the UGLIEST costumes 😭
inspired by how he looks
@@Daemon1995_?? Tf
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14:04 😮 how it didn't crushed the power crush? Is this an old video??
Nevermind just now saw the video upload date😂
@TkAnakin hey man, youre using my main character Steve. And its interesting how easy it was for you to get to Tekken GoD, with just the basics. Alot of people just duck and you took advantage of it. 👌🏾 Nice.
People who say, Steve doesn’t deserve big buffs in this game are the people who have Steve’s infinite PTSD get over it’s not in the game anymore
Yo, Anakin! When we see tier list from you? Other youtubers and not only give jack not so high place. Is it true or they just underrate jack?
Yoo what’s up Anakin, GA stand up!! Why they get rid of “wanna try me guv”?👽
My boi Steve has definitely taken a fall from grace....I've been stuck in Blue Ranks for a while with him
I feel the struggle.. the first few days was rough for me 😅
Thats true, steve is my main in all of the tekken games i started this year im now at brown ranks "Vanquisher" i play it sometimes i play fortnite more
At 16:58 that looked like a yoshimetsu attack with the purple smoke 👀
Knee: "I initially said Steve is bad. But in Pakistan, Arslan, Atif, and a player called Numan CH who is very good at Paul and Steve - They said Steve is good. I said, "Oh really?" and I asked Atif, "If you're playing in a tournament, you think you'll pick Steve?" and he was like "No". So I laughed and said "Yeah, I think Steve is fine for ranked matches too". I mean, in ranked you can climb by playing enough matches. But in tournaments? Atif said "No." That's what I thought, I'm not going to play Steve in tournaments either."
Steve definitetly suffers from the still playin T7 problem. Lion Heart needs buffs. If you know the matchup it's literally a mixup stance that puts steve at disadvantage. If you know to power crush it then all he can do is attempt to dodge your power crush or do the 1f kara cancel to PKB.
1f kara cancel?
@@mdanialsanchez pretty sure the pkb cancel everyone's been talking about can ONLY be execute if the first 3 before 3+4 is exactly 1f before inputting the 4. Which in my mind is nor consistent enough to be competitively viable as a tactic.
@@mdanialsanchezlook up lh into pkb it’s quite tight still not great whatsoever compared to what your meant to get off a mixup.
sway throw also catches most power crushes.
@@stussymishka yeah but doesn't do damage without a wall, so not ideal.
Man I'm just gonna say it.. Steve needs a huge buff. I know they made him good in all the other Tekkens, but holy shit he is a massive let down in Tekken 8.
What makes you say that? is it cuz he's not completely broken?
@@biivii100 he’s broken in the wrong way
@@yungmaui4876 Wild statement considering we aren't the ones who design the characters. I mean do you really want steve to only have one weakness ...AGAIN?
Na that boring jobber is good where he is. If top players & Steve “mains” drop him then they were just tier whoring
Hes still very good, just not an auto win character like in the previous installments. Now steve mauns have to actually try like every other player
as a steve main, i think this Steve is the most satisfying version of himself though
14:23 PogChamp moment
On another unrelated note, why is it that steve cant iWR 1?
The lionheart cancel tech is game-changing no? It finally gives options against powercrush which just beats everything and you have high mid low and throw options, I thought it was pretty significant
Seems too difficult to consistently pull off and you get punished for failing.
It's too much work to call out a power crush from + 7 with a throw. The mid and throw can also get backdashed after stomp when you can just weave most power crushes anyways. From +11 heatsmash is good though I guess. If they buffed lnh frames or guardbreak reward lnh would be usable
Its borderline useless, Steve still mixes himself up, just from a different angle, if he does it, while being insanely hard to realistically use in a match.
It would make Steve a thousand times better if the tech was absolutely easier to do because you're gonna mess up trying it online or in match no matter how much you practice. The timing of it is dumb
Even before the tech he can still duck cancel from lionheart to block anything. Its only really good if u can do it fast enough to take advantage of the frame which is veryyyy strict
Can't figure the gameplan for Steve. Like, not really good lows, suicidal lionheart stance (i don't know, if the pkb cancel still exist, i couldn't make it work even once), no simple launcher, counterhits are too hard to hitconfirm (at least those that i've seen, may be i just don't know something), damage is mediocre at best, almost no plus frames, range on most hits is not good either, character demands very high execution and doesn't really offer something good in exchange.
Gonna keep practice though, what else can i do, i like the character...
when i hear you say steve's DF2 should be tracking again i 100% believe it should be
Just imagine ... That grabs are better than steves b1 now.
I understand they tried to keep the character original along with the new addition of lionheart .. but its just not enough
They could had at least buff his poking game to help him a bit especially the lows. Could had give him a plus frame mid .. maybe not as tracking as feng new move
They should remove Lion heart after db3,2, bring back knockdown and guaranteed 3+4 d2. There is no reason to duck Steve in T8. That's why Anakin was so surprised when that Reina was so scared of stomp.
Low pokes are ok. D1 , FC.df+1 and especially d2,1 is now even stronger because low parries are nerfed in T8.
Another thing they should maybe change is easier input for 2 break grab. Something like db2+4 or 2+4b.
Never played Steve in any tekken game knew he was main whn i saw him by accident on yt
Steve has the same problems as always, but now they've been amplified by the stronger movement across the board and having a pretty underwhelming heat mode compared to others. Back one and down back 3 still go brrrr though.
db3 got gutted it sucks so much now that theres no knockdown
@DDP637 try it in heat. Lion heart having the auto parry will really check people who don't know and try to punish the string like normal. But yeah, not great anymore in the neutral.
B1 isn't like what it used to be.. he's pretty trash tbh compared to what most of the cast gets. I guess because he has been good for so long they decided to gut the character
@@GodbodyRokuHes not bad though. Just not as good. And was their a change to b1?
Back1 has a fat hitbox now. And rocket punch, sonic fang, running2 heat is great. I think he's underrated now and still great. Mad they took away the shiro though df2 is hella mid now.
i hope they buff him most unnecessary nerfs.
Steve is balanced which is a problem because most other chars arent. He only needs 3 things to make him viable on a more consistent level.
1. Grab from lionheart that goes into 2 faced without heat. While adding a 1+2 option that launches by using his torando up as the pop up.
2. PAB d+2 being an i22 startup
3. Always counter mids during Lionheart and during heat counter mids AND highs.
***bonus*** making CH B1 15 dmg
i11 back 1😂
As a person who has loved playing steve since he came out and actually taking Tekken seriously when T8 came out, I really feel like Steve just gets beat out so easily by anyone who decided to just sit back and wall Steve out. So many times, I will bust my heat smash on their block and they just simply power crush or use their rage art for the win.
You should approach his heat smash differently. if you have heat you have more than just your heat smash for plus frames. I use his heat smash for whiff punishing ONLY.
Them not giving him any new usable lows hurts. I take advantage of qcf2 being able to be done from crouching and also try me best to land heat engagers. Then I can encourage them to crouch from using the heat exclusive duck throw
@@TkAnakinI would say d 21 into duck cancel is his only truly viable low since it's safe and I guess fairly quick?
Bro if they block your heat smash (+8)and you have a read that they will press something mash 1 immediately (don't delay it!) this will always beat Rage Art, Burst or any Power Crush. If they block it you will lose your turn, but you're still safe at -9.
You have to remember that after some moves you are in Lion heart, but +8 (blocked HS) +11 (ws2,2 and f2,2 on hit) +14 (ub2 on hit)
In these situations armor moves can't do shit to you.
Only when you're +7 (db3,2 b1,2 etc) or +3 armor moves unfortunately beat every single LH option.
Of course some characters can parry your Lion Heart 1, but very unlikely in FT2 set.
@@alexharris7530 I can't do this shit in real matches unfortunately ☹️
Steve really need to get buffed seems so weak in this game I swear there gonna be a better way to get to pkb
Every match with steve feels like an uphill battle in this game compared to the rest of the cast :(
GGs yet again 😢
Wow this is actually a decent skin minus the feet
No
The feet is the only good part
Oh yea he def getting buffs soon
steve got nerfed giga hard but his new ub3 into lionheart is suuper good catches even people who know the matchup because it’s new and not used that much.
also his powercrush is super good
4 or 3 12 is also super good at the wall
everything else is mid at max haha he could stay like this if the top tier get nerfed otherwise he needs some dmg buff.
STEVE 🎉🎉
Lion heart is the problem… also saying Steve was broken?… really… where?… we just gonna ignore the actual broken characters? Cuz Steve was never one of them just very strong in the right hands where Akuma, kuni, prekilled fakum, prekilled Leroy, Noctis, could actually be considered broken
Even though Steve isn’t top tier or supposedly that good I just watched you shit on everyone with the basics. It’s really all you need man you won with like 112 and sonic fang damn I need to do less to get more
It took a couple days to settle in but this is the finished product when I finally got comfortable with him
@@TkAnakin I am jammed at battle ruler I need to get into the matchups to be more comfortable. Ill hit a while standing12, jab, and they will just mash while standing and launch , I have to get my situations down. Sometimes I get clipped and feel like i have no control lol. Steves i13 mid isnt huge reward, sonic fang is nuts at -14 but negative. I just got to put in the work
@@TkAnakinInsane skills bro. Smoked S tier characters even without optimal combos. That Sonic Fang heat dash connected every single time. It looked like you have access to T7 Rage drive or some shit 🤪
@@Edcas1226df1 is still a good poke. Animation looks like it doesn't have range, but actually it's reaching far with descent hitbox.
2 has a really good range in T8, but for some reason I always forget to use it more for punish, and whiffing 1,1,2 sometimes 🤦♂️
Im gonna be another new high rank reina u might find now lol, got tekken emperor yesterday but im eu so probably wont find each other
Good luck!
@@TkAnakin thx!!
Steve is my highest ranked character 😅
Steve is still pretty strong, IMO
Tell me you’re clueless without telling me.
@@VDViktortell me you’re a 🤡 and a 🤤 without telling me.
@@VDViktor tell me u don't play Steve without telling me.
Reina is such asssssss to go against. Hate how she has so many plus frames
Hope they buff his face and voice
i couldn't care less about that lol better buff his game.
Why a pad player in tournaments?
Why do you think he’s not playing pad right now?
Steve’s voice isn’t top tier either
ugliest tekken drip goes to to this man lmao
You know what steve is a junk character in 8
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When the entitled no longer live life on EASY mode😂cry me a river!!
Steve is so boring in Tekken 8
That’s your opinion lil bro
Steve isn't top-tier if you're a noob
b1 still broken: ch launches, safe on whiff.
Also has the low plus on hit low that frame traps into a ch launcher.
That's all you need for the character to be broken tbh.
Just because he lost d/f+2 homing and combo and lost the KND from hellsweep just means he's less broken, it doesn't make him not a broken top tier.
Hes not broken and never was even in seven he was just a great top tier character here hes actually bad
No sane person would say Steve is a broken top tier, cut it out, you just suck at the match up. Stop pressing so damn much 😂.
@@dripfoe_3307 _"you just suck at the match up. Stop pressing so damn much"_
Nice personal attacks instead of arguments why what I said is wrong, kid.
This makes me wonder, what's your rank? Probably just another one of those green-purple ranks, which never played against a good player in their life and never even managed to win against mediocre players to get to a good rank, but thinks that he understands the game. Hits close to home, doesn't it?
@@lestonclark2398 You formed a broken sentence that doesn't make any sense.
U cannot put this guy as “top tier” and have idiot designed characters like t8 dragunov who can mash their brains out with endless plus frames. Not even remotely close in strength.