The most tragic detail about Shannon’s flashback is that it all takes place only a short 2-3 years before the plane crash (as Shannon is 20, freshly turned 21 as of this episode, and she’s 18 in her flashbacks). Almost everyone else’s flashbacks show their entire lives, even Walt who’s only 10 we get to see him from birth. Shannon went through so much in just 2 years. Lost her father, lost her money, got married and divorced (mentioned previously by Boone) moved from place to place because that’s all she knew. I just wish she got the chance to thrive more 😭
Shannon is Cinderella. A nice dad, a mean stepmother, a godfather who helps her (Boone), a prince charming (Sayid). Unfortunately, the island is not a place where stories always have a happy ending.😢
Lexie, this episode takes place on day 47 - 48 after the crash of Oceanic #815. Boone died on day 42 ( one of the numbers ) / Shannon died on day 48 ( two of the numbers ) / the "siblings" died six days apart. Also when Shannon saw Walt in her tent speaking backwards he said "They're coming and they're close", when played forward. Shannon says she'll be working 16 hours a day if she gets her internship. There are 8 people traveling from the other side of the island. ( Sawyer, Michael, Jin, Ana, Eko, Libby, Bernard, Cindy } Cindy disappears, leaving just 4 Tailies ( Ana, Eko, Libby, and Bernard ) When Ana Lucia explains to Michael why they need to keep moving even though they are two days away from the Others, she says "And if you think that one gun and one bullet is gonna stop them, think again." A short while later, she uses that same "one gun and one bullet" to kill Shannon, whom she believed to be an Other.
I was one of the people who told you Shannon was one of my favourite characters (and she is). I remember thinking when I wrote it that you might interpret it as meaning she lives for a good while into the show's run, and I posted it anyway. My reasoning was "Either it won't change anything, or it'll make this scene more of a shock".
Yes, favourites are favourites, regardless of how long they are actually in a show. Sometimes we only have a short and sweet time with them, but this doesn't change our feelings about them.
Lexi: "I'm speechless even though I've been yelling for a minute!" Yes, the "Lost" effect for you. It always has these jaw dropping yelling at the TV screen moments. But that's just helps prepare you for the intense GoT drama that awaits you.
Goodwin was the dead body that Jin and Eko came across while looking for Michael. We don't know what happened to him, but we do know that he ended up dead. Great catch with Shannon's dad being in the same accident as Sarah...so many reactors miss this. On my first watch, I didn't expect to ever feel much sympathy for Shannon but this episode totally turned things around for me 😢
I think the great thing about Shannon, I also only realized way too late, is that she's already a developed character when we meet her for the first time. She's at her worst at first, because of the things she's been through. That's why she's so unlikeable at first. Not because she's a bad person... I think about this more and more lately because I got more into contact again with an old good friend of mine. We lost contact pretty much, back in 2020 after my mother's death. I was NOT healthy back then. 😅 By any means . . . And I must have been difficult to deal with. I appreciate the efforts and the loyalty from all my other family members. I swear, mental health is SO important. I'm better now. 👍 Going to therapy in a moment...
I remember on first watch being on the fence about how I felt towards Shannon. This episode really solidified my love for her. I loved her backstory and I love her and Sayid so much ❤
Shannon's death still makes me angry. Her growth was wonderful. I felt exactly the same. First Boone, then Shannon. Boone was my first favourite, then Shannon, and the show ripped both away from me. Luckily, with the introduction of Libby, there was a new character to become my favourite. Oh, and we lost Cindy! I do like Cindy too. But now she's gone. Have you recognized her yet? She's in the Pilot episode. She's the flight attendant who talks to Jack on the plane. So glad they bought her back, although she didn't get to come back for long.
Shannon is one of my favourites too. But I think part of the reason is for the pure tragedy and emotion that her story contains. A great character arc condensed into a short time-frame and you go on such a transformation in how you perceive her, and by the end when she exits the show you’ve had a life lesson in not judging a book by its cover. I wish we got more of her! But that’s also the courage of the writers to make that bold choice in taking her out right when her story was climaxing. She represents something beautiful in this cast of characters, a soul clouded by darkness and tragedy whom did have a small light shining alas it was clouded over for so long. By the time we see it at its brightest and most beautiful is also the time when it burns fast, bright and then fades. But the point of the story is that the light was always there. We all have that light inside of us. Great reaction! 💙
Another small detail I don’t see anyone else pick up on; the doctors lied about Shannon’s dad. The one who talks to them says he died at the scene of the accident, however as we see in the first episode of the season, he was still alive in the hospital and Jack actively chose not to save him, leading to him dying on the table in emergency room
Shannon's story is so tragic. But for me, the real mystery of this episode is, what the heck does your T-Shirt say? Edit: I think I figured it out. Perretual = Ritual in Hungarian. I thought the U was an H....
Lexi's optimistic view of Shannon's survivability in this episode reminded me of my similar desperate optimism regarding the outcome of the shooting of a certain character in "The Last of Us" video game. I had genuine hope for a very optimistic outcome during the opening credits scene because the alternative was just too painful to contemplate or to endure. But I guess we will just have to wait for Lexi's next Lost upload for her to find out the accuracy of her optimism.
They not only stole her inheritance... They ruined her chance at her career. They, meaning the woman that took it, and her son that took advantage of it all. Shannon was devastated at the time they crashed. A young lady with a promising future. And it was all taken from her. 😔
27:54 "There's no way they killed her off in Episode 6 -- that's not an episode you kill a main character in." Actually, back in those days at least, it was very important for TV networks to get people watching their shows during certain times of the year, called Sweeps Months, including February, May, and July -- and November (in which this episode aired) was the biggest of them all. This is because these times were when the Neilsen ratings (a method of measuring audience viewership) were measured, and on which TV advertising rates were determined. So these were very important times for the network's bottom line. And so TV shows were written to maximize the shocking twists and turns during these months, like killing off characters! This was how network TV worked back then (and maybe still does, but no one watches network TV anymore). In contrast, the idea of a "midseason finale" as an advertising tactic didn't come around till much later, because December episodes didn't count for much in terms of ratings. December episodes were often unmemorable transition episodes, or sometimes holiday-themed episodes. Google "November Sweeps" and "Neilsen ratings" to learn more :)
great video, next episode is one of my faves, i can't wait!!!! i also just wanted to point out how unlikely it is for jack and shannon to realize their connection. it seems almost impossible, no? like, locke never figured out that he works for hurley... of course i don't want to be mean and sorry if this comment doesn't sound nice 😅, it's just a thought i had
It is very unlikely to be fair, but this accident was an important moment for them both, so if Jack was to tell Shannon where he work, Shannon would remember that it is where her father died. And if she then tells him the name Rutherford, there is a good chance that Jack would remember the name of the man he could not help to save his future wife instead. But after this episode, it's even more unlikely i guess 😅
7:36 B/c Sabrina (Boones mom/shannon's Evil Stepmother) is in the top 5 worst parents of this show... Which is a very competetive list. She's not quite as bad as Locke's dad or Walts mom, but she's pretty horrible.
the actor that played Sayid pushed for his character to become romantically involved with Shannon ..the show runners were reluctant because they felt it would diminish his character being haunted by the photo...
I can see how that would show a softer side of the character, since it would be difficult to show Sayid being romantic with Nadia in any flashback from what we've seen so far. Maybe he didn't want to play "Sayid: soldier guy" 100% of the time.
The confusion over Ethan is confusing me.. It always seemed rather obvious to me that he was one of the others. Just b/c the others took Walt doesn't mean they ONLY wanted Walt, it doesn't mean they were never after Claire and her baby..
I think part of it is that the other Others are now presenting themselves as a large group of savages with supernatural powers. Meanwhile Ethan was alone, well dressed, passed as one of the survivors for a few days, etc. He had some 'supernatural' traits when he managed to kidnap 2 adults but that was only mentioned once.
Why are people talking with the knowledge they have from future episodes... what she knows at this point is that people on a boat came for Walt, and that Ethan and Rousseau are the people involved in Claire's kidnapping. I'm confused as why you are confused.
Since Lexi love mystery shows, she should try "Silo", a sci-fi post apocalyptic show of many people living inside a large concrete Silo that no one knows who built it or why. And The 3 season TV series "Snowpiercer" is also a similar mystery sci-fi show based on the 2013 film. But I get that she has a lot on her plate right now.
If I recall correctly from what I read at the time - the show runners felt it was necessary to kill a character in the first season to show people that this was a real life situation these people were in; there was of speculation that it was all dream or other unreal thing. Ian Somerholder drew the short straw, and so they killed boon. Then, I think Maggie Grace asked to leave the show because of other things she had going on at the time, so Shannon was killed. Had they know she'd be leaving, possibly they wouldn't have picked Boone to die. It is unfortunate that both characters from a single story arc were gone, especially just as each seemed to coming into their own.
No, Maggie Grace didn't request to leave, she was informed they were killing off her character. Apparently they thought her arc had reached a natural end and they didn't have anything specific they wanted to do with the character going forward.
@@Zso-VIIIthat is kinda of upsetting: it's giving "killing Boone is such a great idea, let's do it!!! Oh, but what we do with Shannon now? Oh, well no clue, let's kill her too!!!" It's very sad, because the character could've gone way deeper. I really liked her, and personnally, Boone is one of my least favourite character of the show, he was sooo annoying 😭😭
@@nicoislost258 Part of it I believe was that the actors were young and they believed that there werent many flashback stories they could do with them.
"You can't kill her, not after Boone, you can't do this!" Don't tell the writers what they can't do!
And definitely don’t tell Locke what he can’t do 😂
The most tragic detail about Shannon’s flashback is that it all takes place only a short 2-3 years before the plane crash (as Shannon is 20, freshly turned 21 as of this episode, and she’s 18 in her flashbacks). Almost everyone else’s flashbacks show their entire lives, even Walt who’s only 10 we get to see him from birth. Shannon went through so much in just 2 years. Lost her father, lost her money, got married and divorced (mentioned previously by Boone) moved from place to place because that’s all she knew. I just wish she got the chance to thrive more 😭
I am so impressed you caught the connection with her dad and Sarah. I didn't even catch that until after several rewatches.
Shannon is Cinderella. A nice dad, a mean stepmother, a godfather who helps her (Boone), a prince charming (Sayid). Unfortunately, the island is not a place where stories always have a happy ending.😢
Good catch on the Sarah/Adam collision 😉
Lexie, this episode takes place on day 47 - 48 after the crash of Oceanic #815.
Boone died on day 42 ( one of the numbers ) / Shannon died on day 48 ( two of the numbers ) / the "siblings" died six days apart.
Also when Shannon saw Walt in her tent speaking backwards he said "They're coming and they're close", when played forward.
Shannon says she'll be working 16 hours a day if she gets her internship.
There are 8 people traveling from the other side of the island. ( Sawyer, Michael, Jin, Ana, Eko, Libby, Bernard, Cindy }
Cindy disappears, leaving just 4 Tailies ( Ana, Eko, Libby, and Bernard )
When Ana Lucia explains to Michael why they need to keep moving even though they are two days away from the Others, she says "And if you think that one gun and one bullet is gonna stop them, think again." A short while later, she uses that same "one gun and one bullet" to kill Shannon, whom she believed to be an Other.
I've never noticed the detail about the bullet, that is so cool 😍😍
How is 48 2 of the numbers
@@doomeranged It is 4 and 8.
Anna meant that 1 gun and 1 bullet won't be enough to stop a group of them. No controversy.
I was one of the people who told you Shannon was one of my favourite characters (and she is). I remember thinking when I wrote it that you might interpret it as meaning she lives for a good while into the show's run, and I posted it anyway.
My reasoning was "Either it won't change anything, or it'll make this scene more of a shock".
Yes, favourites are favourites, regardless of how long they are actually in a show. Sometimes we only have a short and sweet time with them, but this doesn't change our feelings about them.
Lexi: "I'm speechless even though I've been yelling for a minute!" Yes, the "Lost" effect for you. It always has these jaw dropping yelling at the TV screen moments. But that's just helps prepare you for the intense GoT drama that awaits you.
Whenever I see Lexi happy at the beginning of the episode and I know how it ends, I feel sad😓
You have erased your other comment about Goodwin? 🙂
@@youtpfpm6097 No is spoiler, see the previous episode
@@youtpfpm6097 No is spoiler, see previous episode
@@youtpfpm6097Erased
Goodwin was the dead body that Jin and Eko came across while looking for Michael. We don't know what happened to him, but we do know that he ended up dead.
Great catch with Shannon's dad being in the same accident as Sarah...so many reactors miss this.
On my first watch, I didn't expect to ever feel much sympathy for Shannon but this episode totally turned things around for me 😢
@@circling-girl Lexi is already way over these episodes on patreon. She just posted episode 12.
I think the great thing about Shannon, I also only realized way too late, is that she's already a developed character when we meet her for the first time. She's at her worst at first, because of the things she's been through.
That's why she's so unlikeable at first. Not because she's a bad person...
I think about this more and more lately because I got more into contact again with an old good friend of mine. We lost contact pretty much, back in 2020 after my mother's death. I was NOT healthy back then. 😅
By any means . . . And I must have been difficult to deal with.
I appreciate the efforts and the loyalty from all my other family members. I swear, mental health is SO important.
I'm better now. 👍
Going to therapy in a moment...
I remember on first watch being on the fence about how I felt towards Shannon. This episode really solidified my love for her. I loved her backstory and I love her and Sayid so much ❤
Shannon's death still makes me angry. Her growth was wonderful. I felt exactly the same. First Boone, then Shannon.
Boone was my first favourite, then Shannon, and the show ripped both away from me.
Luckily, with the introduction of Libby, there was a new character to become my favourite.
Oh, and we lost Cindy! I do like Cindy too. But now she's gone. Have you recognized her yet? She's in the Pilot episode. She's the flight attendant who talks to Jack on the plane. So glad they bought her back, although she didn't get to come back for long.
Shannon is one of my favourites too. But I think part of the reason is for the pure tragedy and emotion that her story contains.
A great character arc condensed into a short time-frame and you go on such a transformation in how you perceive her, and by the end when she exits the show you’ve had a life lesson in not judging a book by its cover.
I wish we got more of her! But that’s also the courage of the writers to make that bold choice in taking her out right when her story was climaxing.
She represents something beautiful in this cast of characters, a soul clouded by darkness and tragedy whom did have a small light shining alas it was clouded over for so long. By the time we see it at its brightest and most beautiful is also the time when it burns fast, bright and then fades. But the point of the story is that the light was always there. We all have that light inside of us. Great reaction! 💙
Another small detail I don’t see anyone else pick up on; the doctors lied about Shannon’s dad. The one who talks to them says he died at the scene of the accident, however as we see in the first episode of the season, he was still alive in the hospital and Jack actively chose not to save him, leading to him dying on the table in emergency room
Been waiting forever! I've watched through your lost playlist twice since your last Lost episode.
YES! LITERALLY LOL
Shannon's story is so tragic. But for me, the real mystery of this episode is, what the heck does your T-Shirt say?
Edit: I think I figured it out. Perretual = Ritual in Hungarian. I thought the U was an H....
Lexi's optimistic view of Shannon's survivability in this episode reminded me of my similar desperate optimism regarding the outcome of the shooting of a certain character in "The Last of Us" video game. I had genuine hope for a very optimistic outcome during the opening credits scene because the alternative was just too painful to contemplate or to endure. But I guess we will just have to wait for Lexi's next Lost upload for her to find out the accuracy of her optimism.
The worst thing that could happen is they rush back with Shannon and Jack has to work on saving someone else and needs to choose....again.....
Walt was talking backwards indeed, he said: "The others are coming and they are close".
Oh man, this episode..
"Such an ugly haircut as well!"
Uh-oh. My haircut is similar to Boone's in this episode.
time for a change according to Lexi
We didn't wipe out the whole family, the mother in law is still alive. 😁
They not only stole her inheritance... They ruined her chance at her career. They, meaning the woman that took it, and her son that took advantage of it all. Shannon was devastated at the time they crashed. A young lady with a promising future. And it was all taken from her. 😔
"no one's left behind" ... 0.5 seconds later
Dude, that was Scott!
Lexi: "I've rambled on long enough". To quote Led Zeppelin, "Ramble on"!
27:54 "There's no way they killed her off in Episode 6 -- that's not an episode you kill a main character in." Actually, back in those days at least, it was very important for TV networks to get people watching their shows during certain times of the year, called Sweeps Months, including February, May, and July -- and November (in which this episode aired) was the biggest of them all. This is because these times were when the Neilsen ratings (a method of measuring audience viewership) were measured, and on which TV advertising rates were determined. So these were very important times for the network's bottom line. And so TV shows were written to maximize the shocking twists and turns during these months, like killing off characters! This was how network TV worked back then (and maybe still does, but no one watches network TV anymore). In contrast, the idea of a "midseason finale" as an advertising tactic didn't come around till much later, because December episodes didn't count for much in terms of ratings. December episodes were often unmemorable transition episodes, or sometimes holiday-themed episodes. Google "November Sweeps" and "Neilsen ratings" to learn more :)
Love your Lost reactions. Any shot at doing two episodes per upload?
great video, next episode is one of my faves, i can't wait!!!! i also just wanted to point out how unlikely it is for jack and shannon to realize their connection. it seems almost impossible, no? like, locke never figured out that he works for hurley... of course i don't want to be mean and sorry if this comment doesn't sound nice 😅, it's just a thought i had
It is very unlikely to be fair, but this accident was an important moment for them both, so if Jack was to tell Shannon where he work, Shannon would remember that it is where her father died. And if she then tells him the name Rutherford, there is a good chance that Jack would remember the name of the man he could not help to save his future wife instead.
But after this episode, it's even more unlikely i guess 😅
@@olajuwon-34 true 😭
7:36 B/c Sabrina (Boones mom/shannon's Evil Stepmother) is in the top 5 worst parents of this show...
Which is a very competetive list.
She's not quite as bad as Locke's dad or Walts mom, but she's pretty horrible.
the actor that played Sayid pushed for his character to become romantically involved with Shannon ..the show runners were reluctant because they felt it would diminish his character being haunted by the photo...
i mean hey i don’t blame him she’s a hottie, but yeah it doesn’t quite make sense given his obsession with Nadia
I can see how that would show a softer side of the character, since it would be difficult to show Sayid being romantic with Nadia in any flashback from what we've seen so far.
Maybe he didn't want to play "Sayid: soldier guy" 100% of the time.
21:15 lost reminds me of a fever dream
lol you want flashbacks? don’t worry there’s gonna be plenty to come 😂😂
The confusion over Ethan is confusing me.. It always seemed rather obvious to me that he was one of the others.
Just b/c the others took Walt doesn't mean they ONLY wanted Walt, it doesn't mean they were never after Claire and her baby..
I think part of it is that the other Others are now presenting themselves as a large group of savages with supernatural powers.
Meanwhile Ethan was alone, well dressed, passed as one of the survivors for a few days, etc.
He had some 'supernatural' traits when he managed to kidnap 2 adults but that was only mentioned once.
@@riel4553 Nothing seems supernatural about it to me he must have had help.
Why are people talking with the knowledge they have from future episodes... what she knows at this point is that people on a boat came for Walt, and that Ethan and Rousseau are the people involved in Claire's kidnapping.
I'm confused as why you are confused.
Since Lexi love mystery shows, she should try "Silo", a sci-fi post apocalyptic show of many people living inside a large concrete Silo that no one knows who built it or why. And The 3 season TV series "Snowpiercer" is also a similar mystery sci-fi show based on the 2013 film. But I get that she has a lot on her plate right now.
LOL "aw lets go, look at them. Now kiss!" - me watching any scene with two guys 😂
wait…people had shannon as a favorite character?? lmao
If I recall correctly from what I read at the time - the show runners felt it was necessary to kill a character in the first season to show people that this was a real life situation these people were in; there was of speculation that it was all dream or other unreal thing. Ian Somerholder drew the short straw, and so they killed boon. Then, I think Maggie Grace asked to leave the show because of other things she had going on at the time, so Shannon was killed.
Had they know she'd be leaving, possibly they wouldn't have picked Boone to die. It is unfortunate that both characters from a single story arc were gone, especially just as each seemed to coming into their own.
No, Maggie Grace didn't request to leave, she was informed they were killing off her character. Apparently they thought her arc had reached a natural end and they didn't have anything specific they wanted to do with the character going forward.
@@Zso-VIIIthat is kinda of upsetting: it's giving "killing Boone is such a great idea, let's do it!!! Oh, but what we do with Shannon now? Oh, well no clue, let's kill her too!!!"
It's very sad, because the character could've gone way deeper. I really liked her, and personnally, Boone is one of my least favourite character of the show, he was sooo annoying 😭😭
@@nicoislost258 Part of it I believe was that the actors were young and they believed that there werent many flashback stories they could do with them.
I don't think Walt has white legs 🤔
LOL. Nobody told you their favorite character is Shannon.
I did, some months ago (well, I said she was in my top three)
Who in gods name is saying Shannon is their favorite character in all of Lost? lol
Shannon and Boone are both overrated characters, simply plot points 😂
"they didn't give her a flashback just to kill her off"
Boy are you in for a treat with this show. 🥲
I immediately thought of Tara appearing in the"Buffy"credits...;"""-(((