@@macsfn9422 I will not be lowering my expectations :) Ægon would do more damage then Kate anyways in long form so why use North Star when u can use Ægon
@bruce_bison I might be wrong considering I didn't think about 7* r3 damage, I've only used a 6* r4 that's my bad, but I don't really think that champs that are completely different should be compared for long-form content unless it's just a general comparison
Thank you for the video, we your subs and the community appreciate all the work you do to showcase how champs interact with each other and who is useful where.
Kate requires skill/careful playing to maintain her debuff which depends on the node, but Northstar just senseless 5 hit combo. I’m startinf to like this dude 👍
@@abhinavdinesh4546 It easy to say you don’t need skill to use kate in BGs, EQ or AW. But when you have to use Kate to explore Necropolis and get solos, you will understand the difference.
The skill: learning to release block precisely during special attacks Y'all have to let the "needs skill to play" narrative it's old Practice perfect release and you cannot miss it it's that simple she is not tigra
@@Nonyabizz1234 Now it really obvious you can’t even grasps the basic essence of this conversation. You best understanding is doing her perfect release lmao. That’s the easiest thing to do. Using Kate on long fights with nodes like Necropolis, the most important skill is switching and maintaining her debuff throughout the fight. Go try it out with Titania. See how well you will get your solo
@@barbar1an_ okay, then slow it down There you have your solution no one is MSD I always slow mine down at the end when it's time for perfect releasing so what's the problem You cannot scream "needs skill" when the solution is right there Lmao
Kate just does a lot, you want to ignore miss , she have it , get rid of hard champs like mestro , or annoying evade champs , her prefights are very useful and using her sp1 is satisfying after you learn it which isn't hard at all
I'm wondering if this is an entirely fair comparison, because when Kate's ramp is complete her coldsnaps are continuing to tick even when you're not making any form of contact with the opponent Whereas for northstar, a majority of the really insane burst appears to come from that SP2, and I think his ramp fizzles out after a while, and a re-ramp is needed
Nick increase the dial then apply coldsnap bub 2 fragile 2 caltrops and then coldsnap each dial increases the potency of next debufss smh i think of all ppl you would know
and this doesn’t even include chavez synergy, Kate is safer, better, easier to play, can take more fights. Northstar is just too slow which is ironic considering he’s a speedster
Not sure what this vid provides lol Kate can still be OP in BGs Northstar can only be good in million plus health pools just not sure if hes needed for that either tho we just have much better options I like Northstar just wish he was good in BGs and smaller content just like kate bishop is lol. Loved the vid tho Nick keep up the good work buddy
Kate is op and all but north star is so fun i just can't not play him All the long form champs are boring except kate and we another fun long form champs maybe i start doing long form contents just because of northstar
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i used him in bgs i have a 6star maxed out acended northstar and i end fights in under 60 seconds in BG non skill champs too hes solid in BGS and short content
@@sahankarti of course there are? I’m not understanding your point I’m only pointing out that he’s a solid attacker in bg and shorter fighter? So like a handful of people that play the game and like using him mainly because they just like him they know he can still get it done if they want to use him in content like BG.
@@thawurdsmith ok, my point was that for him to be viable in bgs he has to be ranked up all the way to the max, so it would be better to give those resources to other champs. I understand your point tho that people who really like him, have a bonus that he can be viable at 6 star rank 5 ascended
@@sahankarti yup and I agree with your point 100 percent there are a lot of champs much better to use in BGs for sure, but yeah just my point on it for those who like using him he can get away with a a few wins every now and then. Though to your point I wouldn’t recommend using him in bgs as a first option for sure.
This only proves that he’s worse than Kate Bishop at the thing he’s supposed to smoke her in… yeah buff this trash he’s really nothing special, he should be way more broken in long form content.
North Star can’t even beat Kate in long fights rip bozo
You're saying that like Kate isn't broken or somethin
@@nick136 well if North Star is advertised as long form content champ I expect him to be better than kate
@@Dab_east kate is one of if not the best long form content damage dealers in the game 😭 lower yall expectations
@@macsfn9422 I will not be lowering my expectations :) Ægon would do more damage then Kate anyways in long form so why use North Star when u can use Ægon
@Dab_east i agree he's not an absolutely busted champ but every champ cant be the best and he seems pretty good
Do NorthStar vs Onslaught, long form. Mutant vs. Mutant, 7* vs. 7*!
Onslaught is getting cooked in that comparison lol
i Don't think so
@@qkpizza1082 bro onslaught fully ramped does like 70k dmg per second
@bruce_bison I might be wrong considering I didn't think about 7* r3 damage, I've only used a 6* r4 that's my bad, but I don't really think that champs that are completely different should be compared for long-form content unless it's just a general comparison
Thank you for the video, we your subs and the community appreciate all the work you do to showcase how champs interact with each other and who is useful where.
Kate requires skill/careful playing to maintain her debuff which depends on the node, but Northstar just senseless 5 hit combo. I’m startinf to like this dude 👍
Kate is still better..and u dont need skill lol
@@abhinavdinesh4546 It easy to say you don’t need skill to use kate in BGs, EQ or AW. But when you have to use Kate to explore Necropolis and get solos, you will understand the difference.
The skill: learning to release block precisely during special attacks
Y'all have to let the "needs skill to play" narrative it's old
Practice perfect release and you cannot miss it it's that simple she is not tigra
@@Nonyabizz1234 Now it really obvious you can’t even grasps the basic essence of this conversation. You best understanding is doing her perfect release lmao. That’s the easiest thing to do. Using Kate on long fights with nodes like Necropolis, the most important skill is switching and maintaining her debuff throughout the fight. Go try it out with Titania. See how well you will get your solo
@@barbar1an_ okay, then slow it down
There you have your solution no one is MSD
I always slow mine down at the end when it's time for perfect releasing so what's the problem
You cannot scream "needs skill" when the solution is right there
Lmao
Kate just does a lot, you want to ignore miss , she have it , get rid of hard champs like mestro , or annoying evade champs , her prefights are very useful and using her sp1 is satisfying after you learn it which isn't hard at all
That’s pretty close man I like it
I'm wondering if this is an entirely fair comparison, because when Kate's ramp is complete her coldsnaps are continuing to tick even when you're not making any form of contact with the opponent
Whereas for northstar, a majority of the really insane burst appears to come from that SP2, and I think his ramp fizzles out after a while, and a re-ramp is needed
It's Kate Bishop vs Northstar
Doesn't matter how they do their damage that's is what makes them who they are in the game
How is the kate bishop damage over time so high? I never get those big red numbers with my cold snaps
Nick can you try carnage allison made a video long ago of carnage dealing 154k bleed damage half a second 😅
Nicks also probably way better at playing Kate North Star has way less testing so that probably makes a difference
Nick increase the dial then apply coldsnap bub
2 fragile 2 caltrops and then coldsnap each dial increases the potency of next debufss smh i think of all ppl you would know
getting the coldsnap first is still more important so that hes ticking down while you get the other arrows, then re-apply coldsnap once you’ve hit 5
Já não tenho mais dúvidas em quem investir! 😅
@Nick136 Kate could get a better damage output. Release your sp3 with a perfect release so that kate would get extra cruelty for more coldsnap damage
He said at the beginning of the video he wouldn't use S3 and Kate doens't get extra Cruelty she gets a precision
Bruh i showcased that
@@nick136 didn't see xD
and this doesn’t even include chavez synergy, Kate is safer, better, easier to play, can take more fights. Northstar is just too slow which is ironic considering he’s a speedster
Not sure what this vid provides lol Kate can still be OP in BGs Northstar can only be good in million plus health pools just not sure if hes needed for that either tho we just have much better options I like Northstar just wish he was good in BGs and smaller content just like kate bishop is lol. Loved the vid tho Nick keep up the good work buddy
Kate is op and all but north star is so fun i just can't not play him
All the long form champs are boring except kate and we another fun long form champs maybe i start doing long form contents just because of northstar
Why is the kate bishop damage over time so high? I never get those big red numbers with my 2 coldsnaps
Boosts and Suicides
If North star got the sp2 speedburst it would have been closer, Kate ftw
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Kate great for short and long fight
northstar too i have him 6star acended 200 sig and i run through short fights just as fast as most of my characters too
Damage comparison between cgr and northstar when
Not sure how that's gonna go
i used him in bgs i have a 6star maxed out acended northstar and i end fights in under 60 seconds in BG non skill champs too hes solid in BGS and short content
Yea but at a 6 star rank 5 ascended level, there are so many other better attackers than can end fights way faster than 60 seconds
@@sahankarti of course there are? I’m not understanding your point I’m only pointing out that he’s a solid attacker in bg and shorter fighter? So like a handful of people that play the game and like using him mainly because they just like him they know he can still get it done if they want to use him in content like BG.
@@thawurdsmith ok, my point was that for him to be viable in bgs he has to be ranked up all the way to the max, so it would be better to give those resources to other champs. I understand your point tho that people who really like him, have a bonus that he can be viable at 6 star rank 5 ascended
@@sahankarti yup and I agree with your point 100 percent there are a lot of champs much better to use in BGs for sure, but yeah just my point on it for those who like using him he can get away with a a few wins every now and then. Though to your point I wouldn’t recommend using him in bgs as a first option for sure.
Where is this iron fist fight?
In the content creator program beta
Live Soon?
First for the goat
Northstar needs a buff confirmed?
This only proves that he’s worse than Kate Bishop at the thing he’s supposed to smoke her in… yeah buff this trash he’s really nothing special, he should be way more broken in long form content.
real issue is that kates numbers are overtuned
@@heckogoop4318 or you’re just stupid. There’s nothing overtuned about Kate, that’s what a good champ’s supposed to hit like.