I appreciate you making dedicated builds for linux, not enough people doing that! Too bad nobara was having so many issues. I've been having a lot of issues with Mint 22, works wonderfully on my laptop for work stuff but my desktop constant issues with compatibility. Still haven't delved into lutris and such.
So, I have an AMD 6800XT GPU and a 5800X3D CPU. My performance is basically the same as I had on Windows 11. I have had zero issues with Nobara 40 .. been using it for 3 months now.
So you have same experience as me with nobara ... lots of things just don't work when i tried it on xeon 2650v4 + RX570 ... opposite to fedora 40 whitch works perfectly on this hardware .
Sad you had so many issues with Nobara. Been using it for about two years now on my laptop and about a year on my gaming PC (R5 3600 + RTX 2060). The only issues I've had are some SDDM (login screen) problems. It's totally worth a shot if you just want to install and go for gaming but, as with anything under the sun, it's not gonna be perfect for everyone.
Great video, man. There is one thing I'd love the whole world to know about, though. You do NOT need to set your USB drives as first choice in boot sequence menu in the BIOS. There is already a separate button for JUST the boot menu (search it for your specific manufacturer, or the first boot screen will tell you about it) where you can choose your USB without making it the default from BIOS, installing the system, and going back again into the BIOS to make the internal SSD as the default option. It's crazy that I've never seen a single RUclipsr mention this. Lol
I like to leave USB as default first selection, so when I want to I don't need to go into the bios. I'm aware it's a security issue for public machines.
Yeah I was on Nobara as well. Running Fedora 41 instead, less issues. Nobara seemed to break things with every update so I gave up. People can use the 7900XTX instead (what I have) it works flawless on open source drivers, kinda THE point of running Linux and performs within 10% of the 4080 in games for slightly less money.
I've tried Intel and Nvidia builds in the past few weeks and seems like most problems with rendering issues (games, editing, 3d) are still due to Nvidia drivers in linux. Big sad
I've had the most success using Nvidia on EndeavorOS. I have noticed a performance transgression upgrading to 560 drivers. was much better/stable on 555
I use vanilla Arch and the performance gap with Windows even on NVIDIA was minimal, some games even run better. Hopefully he gives EndeavourOS a shot since it’s much more user friendly than base Arch
Glad you showed off Nobara. Ill try it out myself sometime Its frustrating to hear Nvidea still drags its feet for Linux. I hope Intel becomes a high-end dGPU maker, and Nvidea decides to go into CPUs. Have em fight amongst themselves a bit more, get us consumers a better deal
Interesting, I wasn't aware there were Linux builds that already have gaming related optimisation. I thought there were only standard linux builds and you'd have to fiddle around with getting Proton installed. I should give that a try! :D
Honestly, I haven't bothered with any patches for games or the OS when it comes to Linux. The only time I've dabbled with it was when trying to get Wallpaper Engine working of all things. Otherwise, Linux Mint and Manjaro have both worked fine on my gaming laptop.
I really hope MSI continues the Expert line for the 5000 series. Its a great looking card and would be perfect for anyone trying do a niche build like Optimum Techs build with the 3d printed air ducts to optimize the cooling in a way that would be much more difficult with anything other than something like a founder edition or the MSI Expert line since at least to my knowledge those were pretty much the only 2 lines of 4000 series that were both aesthetically pleasing and that had the unique fan design
Strange issues with Nobara, wonder if that's down to how new the GPU is. I have a 3060 TI and had no issues with Resolve whatsoever. Resolve is only really compatible with Enterprise Linux anyway, so you might have a tough time running it outside of a container a-la Davincibox with newer hardware. I don't game on my Nobara system (it's mostly to run server software/do batch rendering) anyway, I'd use Bazzite for that. What Nobara has been good for is running Wine forks. Got the entire Affinity suite running on Nobara flawlessly. All in all, it seems like Nobara is moreso GE's testbed rather than a stable distro (that's why updates seem to break so often). This results in newer, more expensive hardware and AMD stuff being left as a second class citizen. It's rough around the edges simply because it's a one man show, but other than that I applaud the effort, as it's a one man show that's more then just a skin of another distro. It adds something valuable to the community beyond good looks.
Interesting, i'm daily running Nobara for half a year already since it's the only linux build i've tried that worked on my hardware out of the box, mainly Suspend, Davinci Resolve and gaming (it's an old Nvidia 1060 ) . All other systems just couldn't work with my card and Nobara just does it, and my FPS is 10-20% higher and smoother than on Windows, which I wiped out long ago
Did you try the open kernel nvidia driver? I was under the impression the open kernel driver is the recommended nvidia driver on linux now. Could easily be wrong though
Great video and nice build. The issues you're seeing are pretty noticeable in games. I have a 7900 xtx in my system so I don't know if this is a normal Nvidia experience
I'n a Blender user...POP os look good. It comes with NVDA drivers installed. What do you think about using POP with the Cosmic desktop specifically for running Blender. I do not play any games.
i have been running nixOS (and previously arch) on multiple systems with both nvidia and AMD, the performance is usually relatively close to windows and occasionally slightly better in games. for servers there is obviously no comparison, no one should use windows on servers...
Nice build, as you said ITX system builds are tough. I'm curious if the system power profile was set to "performance" during the gaming tests? Possibly leading to some of the lower game performance? I do not recall seeing the lighting bolt icon in the task bar in any of the blank desktop video.
It was. I tested in performance, balanced, PBO on and off, disabled SMT, verified core powers and frequencies. I even did some overclocking and undervolting. Nothing got performance even close to Windows.
@@ElevatedSystems If you're not keen on Nobara, I'd say you can try CachyOS. I'm watching a guy here on RUclips A1RM4X, he's daily driving Linux on his R9 5950X + RTX 5090 and does a lot of testing of different OSs, kernels and such, for gaming. Certainly knows his stuff. And he recommends CachyOS.
Cool video! Can you please pin a post with an FPS comparison with Nobara vs another Linux OS, let's say Linux Mint and/or Arch? I am curious to see how Nobara holds up to them vs Windows. Thanks!
Never-ever recommend manjaro. Not only it introduced more problems than solving them, it have bad record in terms of how devs managing things. TL:DR they are not part of linux community. Google to the rescue, if you interested. Apart from that, it generally not that stable distro in long run, pacman key issues will be full stop for any newbie
Had me with “Linux.” Lost me with “Steam.” Do not in any way want to install that data stealing, DRM enforcing, system resource hogging, disc space robbing, garbage software on my system. LOL @ installing a video game store. Games are free.
what kinda data stealing? not trolling but if you drive a car they're watching you at every red light and stealing your data. go in any store and they have your face id. most hardware manufacturers today (intel, amd, nvidia) are known to build back doors for the "agencies"
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Nice build. You should try Bazzite Linux next.
A Bazzite build is the next on the list.
I appreciate you making dedicated builds for linux, not enough people doing that! Too bad nobara was having so many issues. I've been having a lot of issues with Mint 22, works wonderfully on my laptop for work stuff but my desktop constant issues with compatibility. Still haven't delved into lutris and such.
the pc case kinda reminds me of the 90s SGI Machines but just alot smaller
So, I have an AMD 6800XT GPU and a 5800X3D CPU. My performance is basically the same as I had on Windows 11. I have had zero issues with Nobara 40 .. been using it for 3 months now.
So you have same experience as me with nobara ... lots of things just don't work when i tried it on xeon 2650v4 + RX570 ... opposite to fedora 40 whitch works perfectly on this hardware .
Thanks for this very detailed and informative video.
Sad you had so many issues with Nobara. Been using it for about two years now on my laptop and about a year on my gaming PC (R5 3600 + RTX 2060). The only issues I've had are some SDDM (login screen) problems. It's totally worth a shot if you just want to install and go for gaming but, as with anything under the sun, it's not gonna be perfect for everyone.
Great video, man. There is one thing I'd love the whole world to know about, though. You do NOT need to set your USB drives as first choice in boot sequence menu in the BIOS. There is already a separate button for JUST the boot menu (search it for your specific manufacturer, or the first boot screen will tell you about it) where you can choose your USB without making it the default from BIOS, installing the system, and going back again into the BIOS to make the internal SSD as the default option. It's crazy that I've never seen a single RUclipsr mention this. Lol
If you are using ventoy you want boot from USB as the default.
@@ElevatedSystems as a tech that uses ventoy daily, you do not need to set usb as default boot, you just need to pull up the boot menu.
I like to leave USB as default first selection, so when I want to I don't need to go into the bios. I'm aware it's a security issue for public machines.
Yeah I was on Nobara as well. Running Fedora 41 instead, less issues. Nobara seemed to break things with every update so I gave up. People can use the 7900XTX instead (what I have) it works flawless on open source drivers, kinda THE point of running Linux and performs within 10% of the 4080 in games for slightly less money.
Finally an Era 2 build with a 280mm AIO (a squeeze, to be sure...). Notes taken for my own eventual purchase of this gorgeous case and first AIO.
I've tried Intel and Nvidia builds in the past few weeks and seems like most problems with rendering issues (games, editing, 3d) are still due to Nvidia drivers in linux. Big sad
I've had the most success using Nvidia on EndeavorOS. I have noticed a performance transgression upgrading to 560 drivers. was much better/stable on 555
I use vanilla Arch and the performance gap with Windows even on NVIDIA was minimal, some games even run better. Hopefully he gives EndeavourOS a shot since it’s much more user friendly than base Arch
Glad you showed off Nobara. Ill try it out myself sometime
Its frustrating to hear Nvidea still drags its feet for Linux. I hope Intel becomes a high-end dGPU maker, and Nvidea decides to go into CPUs. Have em fight amongst themselves a bit more, get us consumers a better deal
I had a lot of the same problems with Nobara. Tried Arch and everything worked fine.
Interesting, I wasn't aware there were Linux builds that already have gaming related optimisation. I thought there were only standard linux builds and you'd have to fiddle around with getting Proton installed. I should give that a try! :D
Honestly, I haven't bothered with any patches for games or the OS when it comes to Linux. The only time I've dabbled with it was when trying to get Wallpaper Engine working of all things. Otherwise, Linux Mint and Manjaro have both worked fine on my gaming laptop.
I really hope MSI continues the Expert line for the 5000 series.
Its a great looking card and would be perfect for anyone trying do a niche build like Optimum Techs build with the 3d printed air ducts to optimize the cooling in a way that would be much more difficult with anything other than something like a founder edition or the MSI Expert line since at least to my knowledge those were pretty much the only 2 lines of 4000 series that were both aesthetically pleasing and that had the unique fan design
Strange issues with Nobara, wonder if that's down to how new the GPU is. I have a 3060 TI and had no issues with Resolve whatsoever. Resolve is only really compatible with Enterprise Linux anyway, so you might have a tough time running it outside of a container a-la Davincibox with newer hardware. I don't game on my Nobara system (it's mostly to run server software/do batch rendering) anyway, I'd use Bazzite for that. What Nobara has been good for is running Wine forks. Got the entire Affinity suite running on Nobara flawlessly.
All in all, it seems like Nobara is moreso GE's testbed rather than a stable distro (that's why updates seem to break so often). This results in newer, more expensive hardware and AMD stuff being left as a second class citizen. It's rough around the edges simply because it's a one man show, but other than that I applaud the effort, as it's a one man show that's more then just a skin of another distro. It adds something valuable to the community beyond good looks.
5:20 Groovy!
Interesting, i'm daily running Nobara for half a year already since it's the only linux build i've tried that worked on my hardware out of the box, mainly Suspend, Davinci Resolve and gaming (it's an old Nvidia 1060 ) . All other systems just couldn't work with my card and Nobara just does it, and my FPS is 10-20% higher and smoother than on Windows, which I wiped out long ago
Did you try the open kernel nvidia driver? I was under the impression the open kernel driver is the recommended nvidia driver on linux now. Could easily be wrong though
The Nvidia kernel module is open source however the userspace drivers are closed/proprietary.
@@ElevatedSystems Gotcha. The nvidia drivers situation is still confusing to me.
Great video and nice build. The issues you're seeing are pretty noticeable in games. I have a 7900 xtx in my system so I don't know if this is a normal Nvidia experience
I'n a Blender user...POP os look good. It comes with NVDA drivers installed. What do you think about using POP with the Cosmic desktop specifically for running Blender. I do not play any games.
i have been running nixOS (and previously arch) on multiple systems with both nvidia and AMD, the performance is usually relatively close to windows and occasionally slightly better in games.
for servers there is obviously no comparison, no one should use windows on servers...
i wonder if things would run better under popos and a radeon card
Fast montage appreciated
Nice build, as you said ITX system builds are tough. I'm curious if the system power profile was set to "performance" during the gaming tests? Possibly leading to some of the lower game performance? I do not recall seeing the lighting bolt icon in the task bar in any of the blank desktop video.
It was. I tested in performance, balanced, PBO on and off, disabled SMT, verified core powers and frequencies. I even did some overclocking and undervolting. Nothing got performance even close to Windows.
@@ElevatedSystems If you're not keen on Nobara, I'd say you can try CachyOS. I'm watching a guy here on RUclips A1RM4X, he's daily driving Linux on his R9 5950X + RTX 5090 and does a lot of testing of different OSs, kernels and such, for gaming. Certainly knows his stuff. And he recommends CachyOS.
Cool video! Can you please pin a post with an FPS comparison with Nobara vs another Linux OS, let's say Linux Mint and/or Arch? I am curious to see how Nobara holds up to them vs Windows. Thanks!
Cool looking build, cool video, cool setup, not so cool os experience though lol. here's hope one day linux is more than 'tolerable' to us plebians.
Wait a second! You soldered SMD components by hand??? I've only known one other person that can do that.
It was an inductor and 2 resistors. Anyone with even mediocre soldering skills can do it.
So strange from Nvidia because AI runs on Linux and their GPUs.
3:00 oh god the m.2 mounting... thats the standoff not the mounting screw!
What are you talking about? The M.2 mounting point is a standoff. It the same for almost all motherboards.
Hate the case.
#1: Don't use Wayland. #2: Especially don't use Wayland with an Nvidia card!
With the latest patches (I think it has to be 555 version, but 560 and 565 are out already) NVidia + Wayland is no longer a (big) problem.
Glad you showed the actual linux experience. I will stick to windows 11 instead of these hacky linux solutions. Everything just works on windows 11.
You should have picked Manjaro. The Nvidia drivers are great.
Never-ever recommend manjaro. Not only it introduced more problems than solving them, it have bad record in terms of how devs managing things. TL:DR they are not part of linux community.
Google to the rescue, if you interested.
Apart from that, it generally not that stable distro in long run, pacman key issues will be full stop for any newbie
Had me with “Linux.” Lost me with “Steam.” Do not in any way want to install that data stealing, DRM enforcing, system resource hogging, disc space robbing, garbage software on my system.
LOL @ installing a video game store. Games are free.
what
@@penguin1714 You must be pro-Valve or anti-piracy.
what kinda data stealing? not trolling but if you drive a car they're watching you at every red light and stealing your data. go in any store and they have your face id. most hardware manufacturers today (intel, amd, nvidia) are known to build back doors for the "agencies"
@@Mister_PhafanapolisWhat is generally wrong with you?
I can install games with one click on linux, what else do you want?
@@Mister_Phafanapolis You're in the wrong crowd :D Also, open source games are ... really not that many.
I would never touch a nivida