If you ride the scooter 5 miles every day, a 10k bike is covered in 2.7 years. Totally worth it for an every day rider... But the real kicker is a comparable scooter to what the ride shares provide would only cost you 600-800 dollars, that's covered after 80 rides.
@@24pavlo that's kinda backwards, but you could own a scooter in a year that doesn't shut down when you turn a corner into a safety zone. In the US they even offer a service where you get to keep and charge the scooter at home for a slightly smaller fee, but they still have the no parking/no riding GPS. they make it seem like you can leave it just anywhere, but then you realize there are entire neighborhoods that won't let you leave the scooter at all... it's electronically blocked and you will receive a hefty fee for abandoning the scooter there, after you already rode into them. Sure owning your own scooter is pretty lame feeling, I don't feel this way about a bike... but the economics and true easy of use is in favor of owning one.
@@itainteasy Privately owned electronic scooters are still only allowed to be used on private land in the UK. They still aren't legal for use on public roads, cycle paths etc. yet as far as I know.
@@JoshuaRPearce_ I believe you are correct, but it's not a prohibition on electric motor vehicles, you simply need pedals, so everything from pedal assist to super73's & Honda U Be's are allowed (probably some bike paths say no e-bikes). There are e-bikes like the u be that are comparable in price, but probably not in stock in the US or UK. Does seem backwards, I drive a car in Los Angeles, it's clear what scooters are privately owned, and who is riding for hire, and it's the ones for hire who I worry about causing accidents following pedestrian cross walks, those who have unmarked scooters all seem to be aware they follow traffic laws like a bike. Although they are following traffic laws they look like lame grown up razor scooter kids compared to a super73, or even a pedal assist bike rented from the city.
I chat to a chap on an e-scooter at the lights each night on my commute home. He used to be a keen cyclist before a bad accident meant that he could no longer cycle. It's a great way for him to get in and out of work in Bath without being sat in traffic. It's not the same but we are all doing the same thing. Be kind to our fellow road users! Still burn him off the line tho ;)
@@chirpy999 Hey Dave, this is part of a trial in Bath that is legal. You have to snap your driving licence and scooter are insured. Give it a Google, it's a great initiative.
If it's the one I'm thinking of, he didn't need to stop as the pedestrian had yet to step onto the crossing. But that could of changed in the last couple of years
He and the person filming, from a motorcycle I guess, actually overtook a car that had stopped to allow a person to use the crossing. Absolutely criminal behaviour.
6:07 Hank (and his camera vehicle) ride straight over a zebra crossing whilst someone is waiting to cross, in the middle of a piece-to-camera about safety! You couldn't make it up.
he overtook the car while it was moving and before getting to the crossing :) and remember that he follows the moped that has a cameraman on it, so you can safely say that the car behind them stopped for the crossing.
Yeah he did, I noticed that the second he did it. If the granny that wanted to cross had gone just a few seconds earlier he would of clipped the poor woman. Plus it's illegal to pass the lead vehicle at a zebra crossing so the fact he's following a camera scooter just means there was 2 illegal manoeuvres done there.
I’m a bigger fan of cycling but I think anyway we can get people out of cars and onto other forms of transportation is a major plus! Awesome video guys 🎉
Hank, when you took a selfie of the nice view, you should've took the gamble and gone to the finish. I'm sure all the locations would've been in the picture somewhere 😂😂 Hack/Bodge 👍
Love how Hank just ignored the lady on the zebra crossing that all the cars were stopped for at 6.06 and over took on the crossings zigzag area which is a legal breach just as he was saying the word dangerous !!! "You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians. In queuing traffic, you should keep the crossing clear."
Stop fooling yourself. I been riding a folding e bike when I work in the city and park for free. I beat everyone with a regular bike. No one knew that my folding bike was an E bike until I told them 2 months later. They knew I was a roadie. E scooter can keep up some are even alot faster. They have big wheel scooter that go up to 50mph. They can manage through traffic better than a bike carrier. Guys that know me know I'm fast on a road bike from riding on weekends but I'm 58 so word spread to try to beat me to free parking after work. I work in construction with many competitive young fit people. This video has a low end scooter and someone that didn't typically ride them or know about the zones. Anyone with one of the high power scooter and rides it regularly can smoke a professional racer or a bike courier through the city.
@@Mrswissy69 how often does that happen to an adult. The the stuff cops do to the youth who don't know the cops can't just take people personal property without an opportunity to reclaim it and if crushed the city would have to pay for another one plus damages. People who think like you make taxes high paying for mistakes made by cops with same mindset. At most they can give a citation. Still don't change the fact the average roadie like us can't keep up with them even on an E bike. That fact hurts your ego. That's why you want it crushed. Cops who chase someone on that scooter can lose their job if that person dies in accident and cost city millions of dollars. This video is to boost the ego of cyclist. Nothing more and not based on facts of what is actually going on in the streets
@Scartoons Did you know that you can actually buy e-scooters too? When used often they're far cheaper to buy than use rental scooters. No restrictions either, and you can pop it in your car too, even take it with you on holidays (in countries where it's allowed).
A bike has no chance to beat an e-scooter in everyday use: -No sweat. E-scooter is actually the most comfortable thing other than a car in really hot weather! -No uncomfortable position, more relaxing, no impotence problems -You can pop it in your car boot easily, unlike a bike (I'm talking about bought e-scooters, not rented). It's a fantastic companion for a car, really handy! -You can take it anywhere, through shops and malls and easier to take through walking-only zones, don't have to leave it locked if you don't want to -No need spend time and go through the hassle of putting your bike in storage or get it out of there every time. Just take it inside.
Great contradiction of what Simon was saying a couple of weeks ago about escooter use in Bath - no reduction in car usage so the escooter journeys are people who used to previously walk, cycle or use public transport; all of which are cleaner than escooters.
That has always been my main argument to people who use escooters. You have to consider what mode of transport is *displaced* when people switch to escooters. In my experience, it's always people who would have/could have walked, biked, or taken the bus/train.
@@Scooby2606 are all buses diesel? And if they are, do they need to be nowadays? First West of England in Bath have a fleet of electric buses. So 40+ people on one e-bus or 40+ scooters 🤷♂️
@@sfetriathlon2432 Hopefully we'll see a lot more electric buses, but that will take time and a lot of investment. In the mean time I'd rather sit behind an e-scooter at the traffic lights then an IC bus. Not saying e-scooters are the answer at all. I've never used one as the wheels look to small to me, hit a pothole and you're coming off.
No way I'd park a Pinarello F12 in front of a shady bar or leave it there when I've had enough that it's safer to Uber home instead of ride... or just abandon it when I run into mates and plans for the day change. I ride a Bianchi and eScooters... living in Rome, each has it's place.
I would take this bike and attach it to my backpack. if the shopkeeper wouldn't like that . I politely apologise and find another place where I can do the damn thing. many times that worked.
I was hoping it would be a personal no limits scooter, as these can go faster and anywhere, but I'm still surprised a rentable one was nearly a match! Good video.
@@fireinthenight9028 absolutely and I don't agree with the law. However it's because people chip them so they go faster that currently they're illegal in public spaces. Read a report about the Met confiscating thousands of them.
@@jimmcewen8994 I get it. you're able to use these escooters as long as are speed restricted but often people want to go faster , so they hack them . which from the road user perspective this kind of scooter is illegal. right? it's something like building a moped from a normal bike. Just need to comply with some set of rules to be accessible as road friendly.
I use a bike or a scooter depending on the need. I also use an electric unicycle, which is immensely practical. It's so portable I can ride up to the shops, step off, pull the handle up & just walk in. Everything has its place, & if it means less car use, then that can only be a good thing.
@@arnoldhau1 Initially it takes quite a bit of practice. It's a bit like learning to ride a bike for the first time. The more you think about it, the harder it is. It's more of a subconscious muscle memory learning. Once you get over that, it's really easy & feels very natural, like you're connected to it.
@@ПантелеймонКотик Depends what I am doing- I have a road bike for speed= a mountain bike with racks for carrying things and a folding kick scooter that I can reliably carry on the bus or train if I need to go into the city- with the benefit that you can use a kick scooter anywhere. An e-scooter could be useful for those last mile situations if walking or kicking along are too much, but I cannot bring one of my bikes. I have a folding bike, but it is far more cumbersome to fold than a scooter and far more bulky. If I can bring a bike, 9 times out of 10- I will, but even a kick-scooter in a busy place gives you a huge advantage over walking (something else I do a lot for utility).
eBike for me. If that's not an option, then a commuter regular bike. Those little wheels and twitchy steering... not for me. On the other hand, Manon's bottom probably didn't feel great over those cobblestoes with the 110 psi tires and no suspension of any sort...
i've seen an E-scooter have a transformative effect on a work colleagues quality of life but i have to say i don't like how the rentable ones are just littered everywhere as they in London.
In Washington, DC you now have to lock e-scooters to bike racks or other specified fixtures at the end of a ride, and you have to submit a photo through the app showing you locked the scooter in an approved location.
@@cjohnson3836 the roads and everything that cyclists use are public infrastructure also, it's not like we're paying a special bike tax for our paths. In many places the companies have their own racks and you must return the scooter/bike to one of that company's racks. That prevents bike public/private bike racks from being used and keeps them from being scattered everywhere, kind of a win win except it limits the usefulness
@@cjohnson3836 Well that was totally illogical. How is 'private business' any factor in this, are you some kind of rabid socialist? Where did you get your bike, a socialist collective that has nothing at all to do with private business? OMG are you some capitalist pig with your _privately owned_ bike? How does where you get your mode of transportation affect whether or not it's ok to use bike racks? What does it matter if it's rented or bought, it's people using them in any case. Seriously I just don't get how some people are so badly indoctrinated by socialist lunacy.
Yeah I have actually leased a proper, far better e-scooter. I can't stand those poor quality (and dirty) rental scooters. With my own e-scooter no restrictions either. I chose monthly leasing because it was available where I live and I wanted to first see how this thing works, how handy it is. For me it's been great: now I don't need to use my very impractical bicycle at all and I just use my car or e-scooter or both (e-scooter in car's trunk and then continue the last bit on the scooter). I might soon end my lease and buy one, but actually the lease is so cheap that I'm in no hurry, and I want to see how it lasts after several more months.
They wouldn't be able to make a SAFE way for people to use them. People would need to be safe on them anyway. They can put all the safety measures and insurance out there. But if someone is dangerous on an escooter and doesn't know how to ride they can still hurt themselves. Its all down to rider's capabilities. Cos even with regulations for cars there's still 100s of accidents
@@JaredJames-bm9fp the non-electric adult kick scooter also exists, it’s so fast down hill and light enough to kick, walk or carry up hill! Watch out for the plastic wheels ones, rubbish in the wet but pneumatic wheels exist too 😊
Considering that statistically cars are unused 90% of the time, this is a great way of not contributing to the problem more, without worrying about it being stolen, maintenance, place to leave it, etc. I also like how UK is implementing it - you don't get manually derestricted scooters flying between people, through a park. Hank's 36m trip sounded expensive though
just any bike would have performed about the same in town. the performance difference between a very expensive road bike and an old cheap road bike, would be especially trivial or non existent
What a superb challenge and show. These comparisons are really inventive and fun, plus good tourist publicity for Bath (now I'd like to visit there again). Keep it up guys. Thanks.
I think I would struggle to run 7.5k in 32 min to be honest, and that's not including 'selfie time'! Or would it be more like Hank's 5k if you were able to take short cuts? That would be more doable...
6:00 Hank, and camera bike, literally overtook a car slowing down for a pedestrian crossing with zero visibility/checks of who was about to cross, then ploughed straight across it. Zero cool
I love this video for two reasons. One, Bath is beautiful and the city was the winner here. And, two, because the presentation was low key. I love manic Hank but it's nice to see a video with the presentation in a conversational tone.
5:27~Pricekess! This is why we all love Hank. 13:31 There is NO way I would try that on a scooter...impressive. I'm with Manon per scooters. They just aren't cool. Plus here in KC, the scooter companies place the damn things anywhere they want and idiots park them in bike racks which are rare enough as 'tis. I did think that Manon would win by a lot more time. Thanks for the laugh.
I knew Manon would win just because of the speed of the bike plus I would choose a bike as well so much cooler than a E-scooter. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
To be a stickler plastic are hydrocarbons so there is carbon in pretty much everything, also I'll not mention the energy used to recharge them/ mine for the batteries
i know e-Scooters are still not legal in the UK, but this feels a little unfair with all the slow zones lololol. great vid tho. Hopefully things get sorted out with e-scooters and you guys can try this again with a bit more level playing field! maybe add a third person on an ebike? lolol
Hank, You spoke a lot about safety on e-scooters then at 6.00 minutes you overtook a car on the zigzags approaching a zebra crossing so didn't see the lady waiting to cross. Silly mistake to make that could have caused an accident.
Yes really bad. The sort of thing that gets cyclists hated. Not good at all GCN. Expect better of you. Amazed you didn't even edit that out. Very poor.
I’m really impressed with the Voi Scooters in Bristol, use them a lot for short trips, to the shops etc.. Don’t have to lug my Brompton down six flights of stairs and don’t have to either lock it up 😬 or carry it round the shops. Anything further I’ll use the bike, ‘cos it’s quicker and I’m more comfortable in traffic on a bike. It’s a good balance and I’m still not using a car 👍
I think this is a key benefit of the scooter and bike rentals, security of the bike becomes a non-issue. Especially when combined with other forms of public transport, trains buses etc. it would’ve been interesting to compare the energy used as well. Clearly Hank had to run a bit but the rest of the time he wasn’t expending a lot. And for arriving at work not needing a shower etc can be important too.
Yeah I got a proper Micro scooter which are a million times better than those rental ones. It's made by a European company too, not Chinese. When you use them often proper scooters are cheaper than rentals. No restrictions either. Far better to ride than rentals. E-scooters absolutely murder bicycles in practicality: even in the summer and with hills there's no sweat, a million times more comfortable, as you said no need to go get a bike from a bike storage or alternatively carrying an e-scooter is easy. I do have to lock my e-scooter but I live in a country and town where I actually feel safe enough to not even lock it most of the time. And what's really great is I can just pop it in my car and take it anywhere! I've even managed to make my runs far better by dropping off the scooter at the end of my running route, drive on to the start of my running route, then after running I just scoot back to my car. That way I don't always have to do loops or back-and-forth-routes and am far more flexible. I took my scooter to Italy on holiday this summer and it was the perfect way to cover ground in the heat and long walking distances, especially when I could so often only get parking miles from the destination.
Maybe I am getting old but the scooters round Birmingham are always rode on the pavements and they are so quick proper dangerous I think in city centres. They are to slow to use on the road but way to quick for pavements. I am suprised hank wasn't in lycra though for aero benefits 😂
I appreciate the following is a specific personal response of a Bath resident and in a convoluted way supports cycling… Although the concept of this video is very good and something I’ve considered it’s slightly flawed (I’m Bath anyway!). That’s because the actual quandary most face is not, “shall I take my scooter or bike sightseeing in a world heritage site?”, but in fact “how can I get from my home to point B without turning up hot and sweaty”. Taking the latter, with the majority in Bath don’t live in the E-scooter area so unless they’re an avid, all weather cyclist will probably just drive. It would be interesting to see this video redone in Bristol as their E scooter area is much larger and could be a “day of chores/commute” instead. The worst/most dangerous place in Bath to ride the scooters is along the top of Victoria park as it picks up the “slow zone” of the inner park. Cars don’t appreciate it when the scooter in front of then suddenly slows down to 10kph 🙈
Seeing Manon win so convincingly doesn’t make me feel any better about being overtaken on Bathwick Hill by one of those e-scooters. Neither of you made it to the canal, that was the river! Great to see so many local landmarks.
Good to see a comparison, good to see the bike won but why did Hank start on MHQX but finish on 8R2Z. Did the scooter run out of battery or was it nicked half way round. Stick with the bike Manon.
That's a cool video. We have recently received a bunch of those e-scooters as a pilot project here in Vernon BC, Canada. I see them used all over the place in town. They seem very popular and many people can be heard laughing while riding them so it must be enjoyable. When I'm not in a car I'm using an ebike to get around so haven't tried them yet. I hope they are popular enough for the city administrators to decide to keep them around. They are a good transportation option.
3:11 Yes. But there was a study about scooter's use in Paris that shows that trips of scooters, if not taken for fun and amusement (most of the trips), replaced mostly short walking trips and the frequency of car and public transportation per capita was practically not affected. Short conclusion: same traffic jams and pollution, more nutcases on sidewalks and designated bike and pedestrian pathways.
I would rather be on a bike, but I am a big supporter or e-scooters. I think they are a good use of greener tech for city centers and make green transportation more accessible for the masses.
I have an Ebike, and an Escooter. I love them both, the bike is great for a bit of exercise (while still getting me where I need to go pretty quickly), the scooter is a bit slower, but lots of fun (it's also easy to store at work). The scooter is illegal in my country, so I have my bike for heading out in public while I wait for the law to catch up with modern technology.
In NY (and some other cities in the US) we have e-mopeds that you use just like the scooters. Love them! So much better than the scooters especially because you park them like cars so they arent strewn all over the place making it impossible to walk, but are so easy to park between cars it is never an issue. They cap at 25ish miles an hour and are super convenient and fun!
Ride Brompton or road bike nearly every day. Rode a scooter for a few months just early in the AM. They are very unstable and you will be more prone to injury. Wet surfaces especially treacherous. Hope that helps..
Here in Qatar, they're selling unrestricted e-scooters capable of 80 kph for only 2000 pounds. I've already seen one boy in hospital for three months after taking one onto gravel at that speed. I trust the EU/UK will have sense about not allowing sales of derestricted versions.
Road bike hands down will win for sure however, There's a convenience with the Escoot's. I think this all boils down to the user's preference. Neither is good or bad. As an avid road cyclist, I can see myself using the E-scooters every now and then if the need for it presents itself.
Closer than I thought it would be. I don't imagine than anyone considering commuting on a top-spec Pinarello would considered an e-scooter or vice versa, and I doubt most people would get close to either Hank or Manon's time!
Weird premise... Hank's on a tourist-friendly accessible rental, intended for urban use, etc. Manon should be on a bikeshare bike if we're comparing like for like, but I don't think the point of an e-scooter OR a bikeshare rental was ever to get across town as fast as possible.
Bike 1st over e-scootering to get to work. However I do e-scooter if I need to get around the city due to the convenience of being able to get around the city in work clothes.
I (or more specifically, my feet and lower back) don't like standing for long periods of time, so for me, the e-scooter loses as the commuting tool of choice. Especially on the cobb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bbles... 😖
I have an escooter and have traveled close to 1000 km on it since I got it earlier in the year. I use it for commuting and quite enjoy it; however, I still prefer a bicycle. Escooters are great for commuting without building a sweat, but nothing comes close to the feeling of riding a bike.
There is. 99-100 hundreds cyclists are killed per year. Over 4000+ serious injuries and 3000+ minor injuries. Whereas on escooters there have been 6 deaths since 2019. With 700 reported injuries.
I commute on my cyclocross bike, it works all year around even in snow (in Sweden we usually get snowy winters). E-scooters might be good for shorter commutes but I have 17km one way so I prefer real bike also for that reason.
Hank: "it's cost me about £10"
Manon: "that's not cheap" (while sat on a £10k bike) 😂
If you ride the scooter 5 miles every day, a 10k bike is covered in 2.7 years. Totally worth it for an every day rider... But the real kicker is a comparable scooter to what the ride shares provide would only cost you 600-800 dollars, that's covered after 80 rides.
@@itainteasy They also offer monthly subscription for £40. So the bike would be covered in 20 years as long as you don't need to maintain it.
@@24pavlo that's kinda backwards, but you could own a scooter in a year that doesn't shut down when you turn a corner into a safety zone. In the US they even offer a service where you get to keep and charge the scooter at home for a slightly smaller fee, but they still have the no parking/no riding GPS. they make it seem like you can leave it just anywhere, but then you realize there are entire neighborhoods that won't let you leave the scooter at all... it's electronically blocked and you will receive a hefty fee for abandoning the scooter there, after you already rode into them. Sure owning your own scooter is pretty lame feeling, I don't feel this way about a bike... but the economics and true easy of use is in favor of owning one.
@@itainteasy Privately owned electronic scooters are still only allowed to be used on private land in the UK. They still aren't legal for use on public roads, cycle paths etc. yet as far as I know.
@@JoshuaRPearce_ I believe you are correct, but it's not a prohibition on electric motor vehicles, you simply need pedals, so everything from pedal assist to super73's & Honda U Be's are allowed (probably some bike paths say no e-bikes). There are e-bikes like the u be that are comparable in price, but probably not in stock in the US or UK. Does seem backwards, I drive a car in Los Angeles, it's clear what scooters are privately owned, and who is riding for hire, and it's the ones for hire who I worry about causing accidents following pedestrian cross walks, those who have unmarked scooters all seem to be aware they follow traffic laws like a bike. Although they are following traffic laws they look like lame grown up razor scooter kids compared to a super73, or even a pedal assist bike rented from the city.
I chat to a chap on an e-scooter at the lights each night on my commute home. He used to be a keen cyclist before a bad accident meant that he could no longer cycle. It's a great way for him to get in and out of work in Bath without being sat in traffic. It's not the same but we are all doing the same thing. Be kind to our fellow road users!
Still burn him off the line tho ;)
They are illegal
@@chirpy999 Hey Dave, this is part of a trial in Bath that is legal. You have to snap your driving licence and scooter are insured. Give it a Google, it's a great initiative.
Squirrell ok , I am in the sticks , they are not round here, and I see folks zooming along the pavements, accidents waiting to happen
Hey Dave,
Not a problem, happy to help.
Mr. Squirrel
More powah baybe
Talking about escooter danger at 6:07 and run a zebra crossing with a pedestrian waiting to cross 😂 the irony
Watching Manon ride aggressively always makes me wanna get the eff outside - getting a little chilly here in Canada 🇨🇦
Harden up.
Calgary soon otw
Perfect weather for riding right now! Air is fresh and cool.
I know this comment is 7 months late but I can agree I live in Canada to and it was chilly 🥶 in cannafa
Discussing escooter safety whilst filtering and not stopping at a zebra crossing 😬 whoops!
Good eye, I spotted that too!
If it's the one I'm thinking of, he didn't need to stop as the pedestrian had yet to step onto the crossing. But that could of changed in the last couple of years
He and the person filming, from a motorcycle I guess, actually overtook a car that had stopped to allow a person to use the crossing. Absolutely criminal behaviour.
@@markyycz I bet your fun at partys
@@ellie-jay2217 Ask your mum :)
Love the whole team but Manon has been an absolutely amazing addition
6:07 Hank (and his camera vehicle) ride straight over a zebra crossing whilst someone is waiting to cross, in the middle of a piece-to-camera about safety! You couldn't make it up.
Did Hank really overtake a car that stopped at a pedestrians crossing when he was talking about E-Scooters being less dangerous than bikes? ;D
he overtook the car while it was moving and before getting to the crossing :)
and remember that he follows the moped that has a cameraman on it, so you can safely say that the car behind them stopped for the crossing.
Gg is right that car stopped to allow pedestrians cross!!
He did, outrageous, that pedestrian could have had a shock when she appeared passed the white car! Plod may have a word.
You shouldn't overtake on the zigzag lines at a crossing. Bad Hank
Yeah he did, I noticed that the second he did it. If the granny that wanted to cross had gone just a few seconds earlier he would of clipped the poor woman. Plus it's illegal to pass the lead vehicle at a zebra crossing so the fact he's following a camera scooter just means there was 2 illegal manoeuvres done there.
Great video! And the chemistry between Manon and Hank is fantastic
It would’ve been nice to have Connor in this video. He would’ve given us a brief history summary of each landmark 😃
And had some ice cream
Only if it had pictures of wangs drawn on it...
Then the challenge would have taken him 3 hours, not 32 or 36 minutes...
I don't think they make scooters that large
MYSTIC MAC 🇮🇪🦍🍀
I’m a bigger fan of cycling but I think anyway we can get people out of cars and onto other forms of transportation is a major plus! Awesome video guys 🎉
Cycling señor is the best
Hank, when you took a selfie of the nice view, you should've took the gamble and gone to the finish. I'm sure all the locations would've been in the picture somewhere 😂😂
Hack/Bodge 👍
Hack!
*Insert Si screaming "BODGE"*
Love how Hank just ignored the lady on the zebra crossing that all the cars were stopped for at 6.06 and over took on the crossings zigzag area which is a legal breach just as he was saying the word dangerous !!! "You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing
which has stopped to give way to pedestrians. In queuing traffic, you
should keep the crossing clear."
I’d take my road bike through short cuts and e-scooter wouldn’t have a slightest chance! ;)
Taking an e-scooter on the same trails or paths that my fat tire bike is on would be comedic.
Stop fooling yourself. I been riding a folding e bike when I work in the city and park for free. I beat everyone with a regular bike. No one knew that my folding bike was an E bike until I told them 2 months later. They knew I was a roadie. E scooter can keep up some are even alot faster. They have big wheel scooter that go up to 50mph. They can manage through traffic better than a bike carrier. Guys that know me know I'm fast on a road bike from riding on weekends but I'm 58 so word spread to try to beat me to free parking after work. I work in construction with many competitive young fit people. This video has a low end scooter and someone that didn't typically ride them or know about the zones. Anyone with one of the high power scooter and rides it regularly can smoke a professional racer or a bike courier through the city.
Not very fast when it’s been seized by the police and crushed tho 🤣
@@Mrswissy69 how often does that happen to an adult. The the stuff cops do to the youth who don't know the cops can't just take people personal property without an opportunity to reclaim it and if crushed the city would have to pay for another one plus damages. People who think like you make taxes high paying for mistakes made by cops with same mindset. At most they can give a citation.
Still don't change the fact the average roadie like us can't keep up with them even on an E bike. That fact hurts your ego. That's why you want it crushed. Cops who chase someone on that scooter can lose their job if that person dies in accident and cost city millions of dollars.
This video is to boost the ego of cyclist. Nothing more and not based on facts of what is actually going on in the streets
@@apm9507 how many ride a fat tire bike on a commute in a city? And they have fat tire e scooter.
Advantage of scooter: can abandon anywhere without worrying about it being stolen.
Advantage of bike: literally everything else.
what about not having to push and getting sweaty?
My son had his scooter stolen. We found it in 2 ft of water in a lake.
@@timroden6617 they're more talking about rentals
@Scartoons Did you know that you can actually buy e-scooters too? When used often they're far cheaper to buy than use rental scooters. No restrictions either, and you can pop it in your car too, even take it with you on holidays (in countries where it's allowed).
A bike has no chance to beat an e-scooter in everyday use:
-No sweat. E-scooter is actually the most comfortable thing other than a car in really hot weather!
-No uncomfortable position, more relaxing, no impotence problems
-You can pop it in your car boot easily, unlike a bike (I'm talking about bought e-scooters, not rented). It's a fantastic companion for a car, really handy!
-You can take it anywhere, through shops and malls and easier to take through walking-only zones, don't have to leave it locked if you don't want to
-No need spend time and go through the hassle of putting your bike in storage or get it out of there every time. Just take it inside.
I simply love this woman! 💞
love your videos keep up the good work
Haha I got add for 'Scooty' mobility scooters for elderly xD xD
I knew Manon would win and the bike is way cooler - come on!
Great contradiction of what Simon was saying a couple of weeks ago about escooter use in Bath - no reduction in car usage so the escooter journeys are people who used to previously walk, cycle or use public transport; all of which are cleaner than escooters.
That has always been my main argument to people who use escooters. You have to consider what mode of transport is *displaced* when people switch to escooters. In my experience, it's always people who would have/could have walked, biked, or taken the bus/train.
@@ConsciousBreaks yep. Nobody is getting out of their Range Rover to ride an escooter.
Are you really saying a diesel bus is cleaner than an e scooter?
@@Scooby2606 are all buses diesel? And if they are, do they need to be nowadays? First West of England in Bath have a fleet of electric buses. So 40+ people on one e-bus or 40+ scooters 🤷♂️
@@sfetriathlon2432 Hopefully we'll see a lot more electric buses, but that will take time and a lot of investment. In the mean time I'd rather sit behind an e-scooter at the traffic lights then an IC bus. Not saying e-scooters are the answer at all. I've never used one as the wheels look to small to me, hit a pothole and you're coming off.
No way I'd park a Pinarello F12 in front of a shady bar or leave it there when I've had enough that it's safer to Uber home instead of ride... or just abandon it when I run into mates and plans for the day change. I ride a Bianchi and eScooters... living in Rome, each has it's place.
I would take this bike and attach it to my backpack.
if the shopkeeper wouldn't like that . I politely apologise and find another place where I can do the damn thing.
many times that worked.
great video Hank and Manon. Manon the cycling commuter, who would've thought
I was hoping it would be a personal no limits scooter, as these can go faster and anywhere, but I'm still surprised a rentable one was nearly a match! Good video.
Personal e scooters are illegal unless ridden on private land! For the very reason you mention in your comment!
@@jimmcewen8994 wow really, never knew that, thanks for replying
@@jimmcewen8994 well , I see more people fly by their own escooters here in London than owned by gov.
@@fireinthenight9028 absolutely and I don't agree with the law. However it's because people chip them so they go faster that currently they're illegal in public spaces. Read a report about the Met confiscating thousands of them.
@@jimmcewen8994 I get it.
you're able to use these escooters as long as are speed restricted but often people want to go faster , so they hack them .
which from the road user perspective this kind of scooter is illegal. right?
it's something like building a moped from a normal bike. Just need to comply with some set of rules to be accessible as road friendly.
Hank-"I don't think it has any carbon on it actually". Egg heads the world over - *snicker* *giggle*
I use a bike or a scooter depending on the need. I also use an electric unicycle, which is immensely practical.
It's so portable I can ride up to the shops, step off, pull the handle up & just walk in.
Everything has its place, & if it means less car use, then that can only be a good thing.
Electric unicycle sounds cool... is it hard to ride?
@@arnoldhau1 Initially it takes quite a bit of practice. It's a bit like learning to ride a bike for the first time. The more you think about it, the harder it is. It's more of a subconscious muscle memory learning.
Once you get over that, it's really easy & feels very natural, like you're connected to it.
Electric unicycle sounds really awesome, i didnt know something like this existet 😅
"...an electric unicycle, which is immensely practical"
No, it's not
@@matthewlewis2072 Do you ride one?
1:21 Manon's eyeroll 😂
Let's have Si vs 4 e scooters.
Best comment so far :)))
I was wondering about this and searched it. You guys really have a video for everything.
What would you rather use for city-centre travel: a bike or an e-scooter? Let us know in the comments below! 👇
I would prefer my flat bar bike 😉
@@ПантелеймонКотик Depends what I am doing- I have a road bike for speed= a mountain bike with racks for carrying things and a folding kick scooter that I can reliably carry on the bus or train if I need to go into the city- with the benefit that you can use a kick scooter anywhere. An e-scooter could be useful for those last mile situations if walking or kicking along are too much, but I cannot bring one of my bikes. I have a folding bike, but it is far more cumbersome to fold than a scooter and far more bulky. If I can bring a bike, 9 times out of 10- I will, but even a kick-scooter in a busy place gives you a huge advantage over walking (something else I do a lot for utility).
eBike for me. If that's not an option, then a commuter regular bike. Those little wheels and twitchy steering... not for me.
On the other hand, Manon's bottom probably didn't feel great over those cobblestoes with the 110 psi tires and no suspension of any sort...
Brompton 🤷
Easy choice, escooter
i've seen an E-scooter have a transformative effect on a work colleagues quality of life but i have to say i don't like how the rentable ones are just littered everywhere as they in London.
In Washington, DC you now have to lock e-scooters to bike racks or other specified fixtures at the end of a ride, and you have to submit a photo through the app showing you locked the scooter in an approved location.
@@Dr.Schlitz So now a private business is taking public infrastructure from cyclists? If that isn't the most American thing ever...
@@cjohnson3836 the roads and everything that cyclists use are public infrastructure also, it's not like we're paying a special bike tax for our paths.
In many places the companies have their own racks and you must return the scooter/bike to one of that company's racks. That prevents bike public/private bike racks from being used and keeps them from being scattered everywhere, kind of a win win except it limits the usefulness
@@cjohnson3836 Well that was totally illogical.
How is 'private business' any factor in this, are you some kind of rabid socialist?
Where did you get your bike, a socialist collective that has nothing at all to do with private business? OMG are you some capitalist pig with your _privately owned_ bike?
How does where you get your mode of transportation affect whether or not it's ok to use bike racks? What does it matter if it's rented or bought, it's people using them in any case.
Seriously I just don't get how some people are so badly indoctrinated by socialist lunacy.
Yeah I have actually leased a proper, far better e-scooter. I can't stand those poor quality (and dirty) rental scooters. With my own e-scooter no restrictions either. I chose monthly leasing because it was available where I live and I wanted to first see how this thing works, how handy it is. For me it's been great: now I don't need to use my very impractical bicycle at all and I just use my car or e-scooter or both (e-scooter in car's trunk and then continue the last bit on the scooter).
I might soon end my lease and buy one, but actually the lease is so cheap that I'm in no hurry, and I want to see how it lasts after several more months.
You both took a selfie with the River Avon. Not the Kent and Avon canal 🤣
I saw the GCN headquarters on that map at 27 seconds. The circus
Don’t think so
U really think gcn can afford a place on the circus 😂
I think the £500 escooter performed well against a 10k bike. I like the escooters. They just need to come up with a safe way for them to be used.
They wouldn't be able to make a SAFE way for people to use them. People would need to be safe on them anyway. They can put all the safety measures and insurance out there. But if someone is dangerous on an escooter and doesn't know how to ride they can still hurt themselves. Its all down to rider's capabilities. Cos even with regulations for cars there's still 100s of accidents
even a £100 bike can beat a scooter.
Cheaper and healthier while better on your health and environment.
@ incorrect.
@@JaredJames-bm9fp the non-electric adult kick scooter also exists, it’s so fast down hill and light enough to kick, walk or carry up hill! Watch out for the plastic wheels ones, rubbish in the wet but pneumatic wheels exist too 😊
Considering that statistically cars are unused 90% of the time, this is a great way of not contributing to the problem more, without worrying about it being stolen, maintenance, place to leave it, etc.
I also like how UK is implementing it - you don't get manually derestricted scooters flying between people, through a park.
Hank's 36m trip sounded expensive though
I'm wondering how much he spent :/
Probably not as expensive as a Pinarello ;)
@@JohnBaxendale doesn't have to be a Pinarello
@@azraphel He says at the end that it was almost 10 Pounds(almost 12 Euros).
For this kind of travel you really need a dutch city bike, nothing can beat that.
Combined preferably with Dutch cycling infrastructure 😂
@@MrWoezoe And Dutch hills....
Manon - looking like a bike messenger! (except for that "stopping at the red light" part)
Manon was on an F12, that e-scooter didn't stand a chance.
just any bike would have performed about the same in town. the performance difference between a very expensive road bike and an old cheap road bike, would be especially trivial or non existent
Bikes every time! Go Manon!
What a superb challenge and show. These comparisons are really inventive and fun, plus good tourist publicity for Bath (now I'd like to visit there again). Keep it up guys. Thanks.
Hank got dizzy...going to Alexandra park and “arriving ” at Henrietta? 😂
@6:00 straight across the zebra crossing 🤣
Hey Hank, should have stopped at the crossing at 6.10!
@6:54 Picture Purrfect! Define Cuttie Pie for me. GCN is undoubtedly the best channel on RUclips!
Given the distances and times, I think running would have actually been the fast option here.
what's running?
I think I would struggle to run 7.5k in 32 min to be honest, and that's not including 'selfie time'!
Or would it be more like Hank's 5k if you were able to take short cuts? That would be more doable...
Faster? Maybe, if you are fit enough to actually run 5km. But whether you're fit or not, you'd be sweaty and barely alive by the time you finish.
I think helicopter would've been the fast option.
Are u crazy amigo , a road bike is 3 times faster than running, you drinking 🍻 to much cervesa señor
Another great zwift video riddled with long adverts for E-Scooters.
Beautiful city! Fit girl. Fun scooter!
6:00 Hank, and camera bike, literally overtook a car slowing down for a pedestrian crossing with zero visibility/checks of who was about to cross, then ploughed straight across it. Zero cool
Oh man just watch the video and enjoy it. Your comment is 'zero cool' we all make mistakes....do you feel better now for pointing it out in RUclips?
I love this video for two reasons. One, Bath is beautiful and the city was the winner here. And, two, because the presentation was low key. I love manic Hank but it's nice to see a video with the presentation in a conversational tone.
5:27~Pricekess! This is why we all love Hank. 13:31 There is NO way I would try that on a scooter...impressive. I'm with Manon per scooters. They just aren't cool. Plus here in KC, the scooter companies place the damn things anywhere they want and idiots park them in bike racks which are rare enough as 'tis. I did think that Manon would win by a lot more time. Thanks for the laugh.
I knew Manon would win just because of the speed of the bike plus I would choose a bike as well so much cooler than a E-scooter. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
Bicycles aren't cool. It's for soy boys who eat salads. Motorcycles are cool and for real, meat eating men,
Did anyone see the guy at 3:18 gesturing at hank after he cycled past? And Hank tactically blocking him out of frame. LOL.
Love this challenge!
“Do you know running?”
“O… running”
Great effort Hank👍🏻
To be a stickler plastic are hydrocarbons so there is carbon in pretty much everything, also I'll not mention the energy used to recharge them/ mine for the batteries
i know e-Scooters are still not legal in the UK, but this feels a little unfair with all the slow zones lololol. great vid tho. Hopefully things get sorted out with e-scooters and you guys can try this again with a bit more level playing field! maybe add a third person on an ebike? lolol
Hank, You spoke a lot about safety on e-scooters then at 6.00 minutes you overtook a car on the zigzags approaching a zebra crossing so didn't see the lady waiting to cross. Silly mistake to make that could have caused an accident.
Yes really bad. The sort of thing that gets cyclists hated. Not good at all GCN. Expect better of you. Amazed you didn't even edit that out. Very poor.
@ 8:10 Handsomeness rivaling all of BTS combined? Love GCN!
Manon 🥰
Wnen I'm on my bike, drivers are more eager to pass than when its Mannon riding in front... 😅
I’m really impressed with the Voi Scooters in Bristol, use them a lot for short trips, to the shops etc.. Don’t have to lug my Brompton down six flights of stairs and don’t have to either lock it up 😬 or carry it round the shops.
Anything further I’ll use the bike, ‘cos it’s quicker and I’m more comfortable in traffic on a bike. It’s a good balance and I’m still not using a car 👍
I think this is a key benefit of the scooter and bike rentals, security of the bike becomes a non-issue. Especially when combined with other forms of public transport, trains buses etc. it would’ve been interesting to compare the energy used as well. Clearly Hank had to run a bit but the rest of the time he wasn’t expending a lot. And for arriving at work not needing a shower etc can be important too.
Yeah I got a proper Micro scooter which are a million times better than those rental ones. It's made by a European company too, not Chinese. When you use them often proper scooters are cheaper than rentals. No restrictions either. Far better to ride than rentals.
E-scooters absolutely murder bicycles in practicality: even in the summer and with hills there's no sweat, a million times more comfortable, as you said no need to go get a bike from a bike storage or alternatively carrying an e-scooter is easy. I do have to lock my e-scooter but I live in a country and town where I actually feel safe enough to not even lock it most of the time.
And what's really great is I can just pop it in my car and take it anywhere! I've even managed to make my runs far better by dropping off the scooter at the end of my running route, drive on to the start of my running route, then after running I just scoot back to my car. That way I don't always have to do loops or back-and-forth-routes and am far more flexible.
I took my scooter to Italy on holiday this summer and it was the perfect way to cover ground in the heat and long walking distances, especially when I could so often only get parking miles from the destination.
This is a beast !!!
Maybe I am getting old but the scooters round Birmingham are always rode on the pavements and they are so quick proper dangerous I think in city centres. They are to slow to use on the road but way to quick for pavements.
I am suprised hank wasn't in lycra though for aero benefits 😂
I appreciate the following is a specific personal response of a Bath resident and in a convoluted way supports cycling…
Although the concept of this video is very good and something I’ve considered it’s slightly flawed (I’m Bath anyway!). That’s because the actual quandary most face is not, “shall I take my scooter or bike sightseeing in a world heritage site?”, but in fact “how can I get from my home to point B without turning up hot and sweaty”. Taking the latter, with the majority in Bath don’t live in the E-scooter area so unless they’re an avid, all weather cyclist will probably just drive.
It would be interesting to see this video redone in Bristol as their E scooter area is much larger and could be a “day of chores/commute” instead.
The worst/most dangerous place in Bath to ride the scooters is along the top of Victoria park as it picks up the “slow zone” of the inner park. Cars don’t appreciate it when the scooter in front of then suddenly slows down to 10kph 🙈
Seeing Manon win so convincingly doesn’t make me feel any better about being overtaken on Bathwick Hill by one of those e-scooters. Neither of you made it to the canal, that was the river! Great to see so many local landmarks.
How pissed off was the motorbike and BMW and old woman at the zebra hank Haha
My choice would be definitely my bike !!! Not only you get a little bit of a workout but it’s a lot more fun…. lol
Worth it!
Good to see a comparison, good to see the bike won but why did Hank start on MHQX but finish on 8R2Z. Did the scooter run out of battery or was it nicked half way round. Stick with the bike Manon.
I noticed that. Finished on a different scooter than he started on.
I’m addicted to Manon’s selfie
As to the accidents. Walking drunk out of the bar, "I can't drive, but look a handy e-scooter that will get me home safe."
In the US they can get you operating a bicycle, scooter or even a canoe while over the same limit as for a motor vehicle, currently 0.08%.
6.06 doesn’t stop for a pedestrian crossing
My god they are shooting an important vid!!!!
Those scooters are really making traffic dangerous around where I live. Kids zooming with full speed to blind corners all the time.
That's not the scooters it's the morons riding them and the shit parents letting them do so
This is awesome. What a great little travelogue. Most of my knowledge of Bath comes mostly from reading Austen and other authors.
Brilliant race. Well done.
4 minutes difference in exchange of not having to arrive to my destination all exhausted and soaked in sweat? I'm sold.
That's a cool video. We have recently received a bunch of those e-scooters as a pilot project here in Vernon BC, Canada. I see them used all over the place in town. They seem very popular and many people can be heard laughing while riding them so it must be enjoyable. When I'm not in a car I'm using an ebike to get around so haven't tried them yet. I hope they are popular enough for the city administrators to decide to keep them around. They are a good transportation option.
Nice to see Hank have fun in a ride. The bike was going to win all the way, but scooter looks pretty fun. I would stick with a bike.
3:11 Yes. But there was a study about scooter's use in Paris that shows that trips of scooters, if not taken for fun and amusement (most of the trips), replaced mostly short walking trips and the frequency of car and public transportation per capita was practically not affected.
Short conclusion: same traffic jams and pollution, more nutcases on sidewalks and designated bike and pedestrian pathways.
I would rather be on a bike, but I am a big supporter or e-scooters. I think they are a good use of greener tech for city centers and make green transportation more accessible for the masses.
Very Top Gear challenge. Manon is much better looking than Clarkson! LOL! I did think that Manon would win. Of course!
Hysterical!!😂
I have an Ebike, and an Escooter. I love them both, the bike is great for a bit of exercise (while still getting me where I need to go pretty quickly), the scooter is a bit slower, but lots of fun (it's also easy to store at work). The scooter is illegal in my country, so I have my bike for heading out in public while I wait for the law to catch up with modern technology.
@ 8:22 Photogenic to the Max!
In NY (and some other cities in the US) we have e-mopeds that you use just like the scooters. Love them! So much better than the scooters especially because you park them like cars so they arent strewn all over the place making it impossible to walk, but are so easy to park between cars it is never an issue. They cap at 25ish miles an hour and are super convenient and fun!
Good and Groovy.
Ride Brompton or road bike nearly every day. Rode a scooter for a few months just early in the AM. They are very unstable and you will be more prone to injury. Wet surfaces especially treacherous. Hope that helps..
Here in Qatar, they're selling unrestricted e-scooters capable of 80 kph for only 2000 pounds. I've already seen one boy in hospital for three months after taking one onto gravel at that speed. I trust the EU/UK will have sense about not allowing sales of derestricted versions.
Road bike hands down will win for sure however, There's a convenience with the Escoot's. I think this all boils down to the user's preference. Neither is good or bad. As an avid road cyclist, I can see myself using the E-scooters every now and then if the need for it presents itself.
Closer than I thought it would be. I don't imagine than anyone considering commuting on a top-spec Pinarello would considered an e-scooter or vice versa, and I doubt most people would get close to either Hank or Manon's time!
Weird premise... Hank's on a tourist-friendly accessible rental, intended for urban use, etc. Manon should be on a bikeshare bike if we're comparing like for like, but I don't think the point of an e-scooter OR a bikeshare rental was ever to get across town as fast as possible.
Manon is fantastic !
interesting route!!
Bike 1st over e-scootering to get to work. However I do e-scooter if I need to get around the city due to the convenience of being able to get around the city in work clothes.
Manon will win the photo contest anyway - no matter of the means of transportation! 😃👍
I (or more specifically, my feet and lower back) don't like standing for long periods of time, so for me, the e-scooter loses as the commuting tool of choice. Especially on the cobb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bb-bbles... 😖
I knew Manon would win ;-)
I have an escooter and have traveled close to 1000 km on it since I got it earlier in the year. I use it for commuting and quite enjoy it; however, I still prefer a bicycle. Escooters are great for commuting without building a sweat, but nothing comes close to the feeling of riding a bike.
“I would’ve thought there’d be more incidents on bikes than e-scooters.” #blaststhroughzebracrossing
There is. 99-100 hundreds cyclists are killed per year. Over 4000+ serious injuries and 3000+ minor injuries.
Whereas on escooters there have been 6 deaths since 2019. With 700 reported injuries.
@@scorpa106 so he was correct with his assumption before he blasted through a zebra crossing.
No scooter of any kind has a chance against the Dragon Lady™!
I commute on my cyclocross bike, it works all year around even in snow (in Sweden we usually get snowy winters). E-scooters might be good for shorter commutes but I have 17km one way so I prefer real bike also for that reason.
The cobbles made hank Sounding like the Joker beaten up by Batwoman