Christian critics of Julian the Apostate.The arguments of Socrates Scholasticus against pagan Julian

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @seraphx26
    @seraphx26 Год назад +14

    Both Socrates Scholasticus and Origen failed miserably in their attempts to refute Emperor Julian and Celsus, having just finished reading Against the Galileans I can say confidently that there is no intellectual escape hatch through which the Abrahamics can flee his brutally scathing destruction of their middle-eastern nonsense.

  • @sethhatfield6293
    @sethhatfield6293 Год назад +4

    In the Caesars Julian does not scoff at Marcus Aurelius, or most of the emperors there. He holds them in high respect, and the work concludes with Julian concluding that Marcus Aurelius was the best of all the emperors.
    The only emperors he speaks negatively of in that book are ones that were almost universally agreed to be bad emperors, like Caligula and Nero.

  • @AntonioBrandao
    @AntonioBrandao Год назад +3

    Would be very interested in hearing what Julian commented on Marcus Aurelius.

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  Год назад +2

      I'll look through and see if I can find something - but having read his works I can't recall any reference to him of the top of my head.

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods 2 года назад +6

    I really appreciate the depth of research in these videos. Thank you for educating us.

  • @jakek.403
    @jakek.403 2 года назад +2

    oh nice! very happy to see a new video, dude! hope you're well

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Jake, all well! Glad you liked it!

    • @jakek.403
      @jakek.403 2 года назад +1

      @@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Always. Looking forward to the next one; hope to see a bit more criticism of the chrisitan responses in that one possibly... ;)

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  2 года назад +1

      @@jakek.403 Point taken on board :)

  • @edwardmiessner6502
    @edwardmiessner6502 Год назад +2

    A very informative video. Keep up the excellent work! 👍👍

  • @anothername5272
    @anothername5272 2 года назад +1

    An interesing video. Keep up the good work! 1k soon!

  • @edwardmiessner6502
    @edwardmiessner6502 Год назад +5

    "But the heathen before they believe, cannot understand: for it is a divine oracle that declares, 'Unless ye believe, assuredly ye shall not understand."
    ^ *This* is their excuse for the fact that Jesus - both the historical one and the one of faith - did not fulfill *any* of the Messianic prophecies of the Hebrew bible / Old Testament.

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  Год назад +3

      In most (if not every way) Jesus is quite the opposite of the messiah the Jews were waiting for

    • @tomasrocha6139
      @tomasrocha6139 Год назад +2

      Well he somehow managed to ride 2 donkeys🤣 into Jerusalem according to Matthew 21:7 so he fulfilled Zechariah 9:9.

    • @EdwardM-t8p
      @EdwardM-t8p 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@tomasrocha6139 Which shows Matthew didn't understand Hebrew Poetry or Jewish Greek poetry.

  • @JulianThePhilosopher7
    @JulianThePhilosopher7 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love ur channel

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  5 месяцев назад

      Appreciate that bro! Just working on a video on Julian’s last battle against the Persians. Hope you like that. Coming out soon:)

  • @Vyom4676
    @Vyom4676 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video as always,thank you sir.

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  2 года назад

      My pleasure Bharat! Appreciate your interest my friend!

    • @Vyom4676
      @Vyom4676 2 года назад +1

      @@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 thank you so much,wanted to ask this question,
      did Spinoza write polemics against christianity ?
      I came to know about spinoza from one of our indian writers,who held him as one of the greatest rationalist.

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  2 года назад

      @@jakek.403 Second that. Worth reading his works.

    • @Vyom4676
      @Vyom4676 2 года назад

      @@jakek.403 thank you so much sir.

    • @Vyom4676
      @Vyom4676 2 года назад

      @@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 as always thank you once again.

  • @jerrycruitt5375
    @jerrycruitt5375 Год назад +1

    Dear Flav - C'mon, get with the program! I need a new fix. I'm forced to go over old ones to get by. I hope you are well.

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  Год назад +1

      Ha ha , just working on a new one on the Northern Crusades Jerry. I'm a learner on doing animation and showing maps with moving arrows and changes - that's why it's taking longer than I would like. its a good learning exercise though so hopefully I'll be able to produce videos a lot faster in future. Hope to get this new video - a primer on the Northern Crusades - out later this week ;) So not long for the next one!

  • @dawnacynthiadavis-valdez6702
    @dawnacynthiadavis-valdez6702 7 месяцев назад

    Very interesting, thank you. I’ve always admired Julian.

  • @giahuypham1385
    @giahuypham1385 2 года назад +4

    Another wonderful video, I swear to Helios I would have contribute something to your channel if I am not so lacking in money.

  • @jerrycruitt5375
    @jerrycruitt5375 2 года назад +1

    Another good one. I missed it, but better late than never.

  • @sarahsarah2534
    @sarahsarah2534 2 года назад +2

    Socrates the philosopher was indeed worthy of contempt.

  • @henkstersmacro-world
    @henkstersmacro-world 2 года назад +1

    👍👍👍

  • @geneticepistomology
    @geneticepistomology 2 года назад +1

    New video = }

  • @bayalp61
    @bayalp61 9 месяцев назад

    👏👏

  • @lukeabendroth261
    @lukeabendroth261 Год назад +1

    Cringe. His last words were the best thing he ever said. "Thou hast conquered, Galilean".

    • @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
      @FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361  Год назад +3

      Always sounded a bit melodramatic to me. There were very few people with him at his death.

    • @klidouxos
      @klidouxos Год назад +1

      Modern historians agree that this phrase is most probably a fake, invented by christian chronographers some centuries after the death of Julian. However, we must consider the last words that attest 2 chronographers of the time, who they had spoken with a soldier who was present at the tent in which the emperor died. Thus, his real last words should be; Ἥλιε, ἀπώλεσας Ἰουλιανόν which means Oh Helios, you killed Julian.

    • @AverageAbsurdist
      @AverageAbsurdist 3 месяца назад

      Pure BS Christian Distortionist History, stfu.