Q&A with a person who does not have an internal monologue
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- I interviewed Kirsten Carlson, a PA Student at Francis Marion University, who is one of the few people that do not have an internal monologue. She does not hear herself think and people wanted answers.
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try meditation techniques aimed at clearing your mind of thoughts in general.
Something like: let every thought pass by like clouds on a windy day.
Sounds dumb but it really does work. Object meditation is another take on this if the cloud thing doesn't work ;)
OMG thank you for normalizing our replay of past conversations.
This had to be bs I'm sorry. You are basically saying they cannot THINK. where are their thoughts? do they just think it's another voice? like I genuinely don't get it.
@@gabrielbevan-rt5yl WOMEN DONT HAVE A CONSCIENCE, I KNEW IT
This is all completely unprovable. Also, apparently she can have a conversation in her head. At the beginning of the video she not only once but twice maybe hand gestures acknowledging the interviewer statements. This alone indicates she does have an unspoken monologue.
things i took for granted in my life:
*day dreaming
*winning shower arguments
*random oscar acceptance speeches
Same guuuurl 😂
Lol ... so glad random Oscar acceptance speeches and shower arguments are the norm. 😁
LMAO THE OSCAR I NEED TO DO THAT IN THE SHOWER
😂
Oh yes 👏🏻😂
Daydreaming and talking to myself is like 90% of how I entertain myself.
literally same tho...lol
LITERALLYYY
Same
SAME💀💀
Right. Not sitting in blank silence like a freakin NPC
Imagine being able to lay in bed at night and not have cringe memories from 2006 keep you awake
She might still have that but just as an image or concept, not the words "remember the time you did xyz in middle school..."
Noelle Bright lol you can still have cringe memories
I don't have an inner monologue and my mind's is blank when I'm about to sleep.
@@videomodelling Lucky you. Mine is like the equivalent of flicking through millions of tv channels about your own life at 300mph.
I don't have an inner monologue, and i still have this. I'm just thinking about the memory itself, like watching a movie. Not thinking words about the movie
Now I'm just going ponder "the shape of sentences" all day in my internal monologue
I feel like I have a very *slight* grasp of what she's saying??
Sort of like thinking in images, at least that's how my brain comprehends what she's saying.
@@PBart7She literally said no images, therefore no vizualizations. I'm pretty sure it's more like a train of unconscious thoughts but word related. Like, do you see how ChatGPT lines up words after you ask them a question? I don't quite enjoy the fact that I just compared a group of human beings to ChatGPT, but that's kind of how I imagine it. 💀
I really, *really* wonder what would happen if someone like Kirsten tried to medidate for about an hour every day, for a year, accompanied by a trained professional. Could a brain begin to fathom or develop this concept of internal monologue that probably seems so ridicule when you have never felt it in any shape or way before? 🤔
@@sh4rdz. it makes sense why the Internet is so wild, people just spewing thoughts they can't think lol
@@Llkolii What are you trying to insinuate? I'm a part of the 50-70% of people who have an internal monologue, asking myself questions or trying to grasp about how someone might feel is a common habit for me. Calling the internet wild because people are "spewing" thoughts is the essence of wildness.
@@sh4rdz.he’s more referring to some people being utterly stupid and talking at people on the internet as if they know 2/10ths of fuck all….
Clearly..
She must shower mad efficient.
As someone with contamination OCD and whose showers are quite long, I would agree that taking that internal monologue out of the picture would make showers much faster! It would be more utilitarian and not so much brainstorming or distracting thoughts.
😂😂😂!!!
😭😂
I don't have internal dialogue either, and mostly I just stand there staring at the floor and oops 30 minutes have passed, maybe I should wash and leave.
A shower takes me all of 2 minutes, but I've always attributed that to phase 1 training of the British armed forces?
(I don't have an internal dialogue)
maybe thats why Edward Cullen cant hear Bella Swan's thoughts coz she cant do internal monologue
Nice.
😂😂😂
This just blew my mind.
LMFAO
Lmaoooooo
so when she gets "some peace and quiet" .... she literally gets silence
SHE GETS VIOLENT VISUALIZATIONS
that blows my mind
she is a undead NPC
Suzy Q that's pretty lucky
P E same. No silence for me since Feb 2019
I was so amazed by this and decided to show my 15 - and 10 year old. Only to find out my 10 year old doesn't have an internal monologue! I was shocked, so i paused the video and started asking questions only to find out when we pressed play that his descriptions of how he thinks are almost identical to this lady!
Very cool. I wish I knew someone like this because I have so many questions that weren't covered here.
Farty poopy farty poopy farty poopy farty poopy
Your kid might be a psycho
Until last year I didn't know people could literally hear their thoughts. I can't, and the idea still feels scary to me lol. I thought inner voice was a metaphor all my life.
@@onurbole7921 Hey so you got me thinking. I immediately put myself in the camp of those who hear their inner thoughts, but you've made me wonder how much nuance there is to it. I don't literally hear my thoughts. For me it is like there are words, phrases, but not really heard? If I had to say whether the 'voice' is a distinct one, recognizable in some way, I'd have to say yes, and no? It is very familiar, being my own internal voice, but I couldn't begin to actually describe it, seeing as I don't really 'hear' it. Such a weird topic!
someone: * asks a stupid question *
“sorry that sounded better in my head”
*this girl: ?????????*
Seems someone only has one level of self-monologue.
This exists by degrees.
Radeo what???? Explain
@@tatesofthetots4195 What good is it for a person to "sound something out in my head" if that person is not actually aware enough to evaluate what they have sounded out before speaking?
You can have self-monologue and have the habit of not really listening to it either.
Radeo ohhhh
this girl:
I've always assumed an inner monologue to be central to the human experience so this honestly really unsettling.
This is akin to how animals think. I need to know more about this.
Years ago I tried to think without words only images. I got the hang of it. But concepts were tricky, I had to find images for them. A visual dictionary. I'm going to do it again, the image thinking.
@Tobyy They're different, but still people.
@Tobyy They do have the ability to think, but its in a different format.
@@emmautterback3927 It's mostly the same as an 'outer' monologue would be although it probably makes a less narrative sense. You're not talking to anyone else so you don't have to segway into a different topic, and you don't have to explain why you make connections between things. If you wrote out an inner monologue it would probably look like someone rambling. It can also be directed at someone, like for example before I wrote this I thought out most of what I was going to say first. In a conversation I think it kind of depends on the timing, if possible I say something right away without thinking it out all the way first, but if the other person is still talking I sometimes think out what I want to say once I get the chance. In other words if I'm thinking words I can just switch to saying them out loud while I think them, but if not then I'll still think the words. I also find that a way to mostly shut up my inner monologue is to listen to other people talk without interacting, like a youtube video or a podcast or something.
I’m so damn confused. I’m currently having like 4 different conversations in my head just trying to understand this.
I just did the same fucking thing lol
L.O.L.!!
me and my 10 self inside my head was like : 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
😂😂😂😭
Omg yes lol
Wow, thank you for this. As a teacher, we always say things like, “Think about what you are going to say before you start writing,” or, “Visualize the story as you read to help you remember the details.” I am starting to understand that some children might not be able to do that, no matter how many times I say it. I had no idea this might be impossible for some of my students.
My internal monologue is always on overdrive, so it seems almost impossible to be able to function without it. I am never bored, because I can just retreat into a daydream, or relive all those moments I should have responded differently. Our brains are amazing machines!
And it's for a lot. Studies been showing that.
I just assumed everyone had that inner voice
my is a bit negative at the moment how do you avoid the negative side of that??
Mine is depressed. However it's also kinda a genius at other things
@@carlos-zr1ptstart to look at the positive things you have and are and focus on them. When you find yourself thinking negatively about something try and ask yourself would your friend or parent also see it the same way, practice trying to look at situations from a different angle. This advice was given to me and i found it really helpful.
So if a girl asks a guy what he’s thinking about and he says “nothing” he might literally mean nothing...whoa.
lmao. they're still thinking. it's just visual instead of dialogue
I ask this to my Maa all the time and she says nothing and I always made fun of it like she's lying. 😐😐😐
Seetu most people are lazy or are not thinking anything important so they’re answer is nothing, as in nothing important to share.
@@austinlam8145 some people can't see visuals or have dialogue.
They are thinking though? They just think differently.
i can’t wrap my head around how thinking can occur at all without an internal monologue
I thought I was starting to understand, but she lost me as she kept talking
Just reading your comment and others...and even typing this I am using my inner monologue. How is it possible to read, write or do anything without being able to think. To me THINKING about something...is that not an inner monologue to think.
My ex once told me she can not visualize things in her mind...its rare and called Aphantasia
for me personally i visualize things and see images rather than have actively talk to myself in my head
@@jcaashby3 It's really hard to explain, but when I'm reading I don't actually read out the words in my head, I just kinda skip over that and my brain just understands the meaning of what I read.
Instead of hearing the words in her head she visually sees the words in her head
I think
and here we are reading all the comments in our head
Yep!
See, I don’t get that. How could she read these comments without hearing the words in her head? It’s how you ponder/evaluate what is being said.
@@Salwerth2822 it's still a thought, it's just not an audio, it's like a concept kinda
But do you actually hear them audibly in your head?
I kind of just feel them in my head
I honestly believe understanding this is the key to understanding human connection. There’s probably millions of people who process their life in a different way than the two mentioned here. Which opens up a whole other can of worms. In a way it’s kind of oddly comforting and validating to know people are perceiving life so starkly different than I am, as it explains all the times where connection has been difficult or where there have been disagreements on the semantics of a situation and things just feel so complicated. Damn, wild.
woah
She is a descendent of clones.
@@itsshaleevlogs now that is an interesting theory. go on
@@user-ve3oj9re2k yeah it started after the 1800’s when the fallen angels were released after their 70 generations sentence and gave humans technology. This is why we went from riding horses to cars in a blink of an eye compared to hundreds of years with no major advancements. People would call them aliens. But they aren’t.
It gets crazy cause what’s actually real people don’t believe so they get played all the time.
The reason for Hitler was to conduct experiments and cloning to host entities. These entities are the disembodied spirits called the Nephilim. Children of the fallen angels. When a human dies their spirit returns to The Most High and put to sleep until judgment.
When the spirits of the nephilim dies they say on earth without a body. This is what humans would call ghost etc.
Fallen angels can’t die like humans but their offspring can. This is why they are feeding humans information in secret to bring them back.
There was an orphanage crisis in the 1930’s those children were all the clones. And because they were clones they had no parents. They don’t have a spirit they can only follow rules of what they already learn from what’s around them. They became adults and mixed with humans. If a human and clone mix it’s a 50/50 chance the child will be human or npc. I mean clone.
The reason for it is to bring back the the offspring of the fallen angels.
Today they are using humanoid robots with Ai which isn’t artificial intelligence but Angel intelligence.
But hope that gives a bit more to it. It’s more sinister because they hate humans. But just imagine 50%-70% of a us are npc ( clones ) how much humans are actually real and how much of us are actually left compared to.
Check the guy the record a gaint on the mountains and now he is dead… it’s safe to say their experimenting was successful.
@@user-ve3oj9re2k I sent you a message. But I think RUclips removed it. Guess I shared too much. Let me know if you got it.
It sounds like, whereas we "hear" our thoughts, she "sees" them.
I think it's that she literally sees words (not images or sounds) and she reads her thoughts? But I don't get how she learned how to think in this way, or learn how to do anything until she learned how to read and write????????
When someone is thinking in sign language they don't use actual vocalised words, they think in concept of a sign that they associate with a shape of hand. But they don't verbalise it. And I'd say thats pretty accurate for my way of thinking, just omit the visual aspect of a hand :) I'd die if I were to hear voice in my head, like what do you even say to yourself?
That’s cool kind of like how dead people see sign language instead of hearing words
Dominika so when I read your reply, I was reading it aloud in my head. How do you read then?
Dominika oh... you see the word/letters and interpret that into...a knowing? Do you see words then translate them to hand signs then you comprehend? Also when you type, do you visualize the signs in your head then translate that to letters/words?
Idk I can't believe this how is this possible. I literally talk in my head more than I talk out loud.
Information is stored in multiple senses, it doesn't matter which one is primary for each purpose. If I wanted to convey the idea of an apple to you, I could say the word to you, show you an apple, have you taste an apple, or touch an apple. It doesn't matter which one because at the end you will know it's an apple, although language saying/seeing it will be the fastest to communicate with. However, the sound of the word apple is not necessary to know it's an apple. For those without an internal monologue, it's like this but all the time. They express things in a non-auditory way, but it still conveys the same information.
@@stealthis This was the most helpful description. Thank you for helping me wrap my mind around this. I feel like one's own native language would play a huge role in this.
@stealthis you’ve done it!!! Best explanation ever.
I don’t believe that she has been moving in her entire life. Her answer is so sketchy, like when he asked what she thinks about when she’s alone. Gurl, you obviously had an alone time in your life. 💁🏻♀️
Yes it’s constant talking to myself in my head.
“I just say what I’m thinking.”
Yeah I’d be in trouble with that one from time to time. 😐
I was thinking tourettes when she said that and now i'm curious wether ppl with tourettes also doesn't have an internal dialogue, as everything seems to come out loud 😀
To Sweet Anita I must go! 😁
Yes but I think that also means that she doesn't think as much as the majority of people
laboomerang yes she seems like robotic... not having much emotions or deep thoughts, just doing things that needs to be done
Pineapple people with tourette’s do have internal monologue.. with tics it’s just random things (usually words they don’t want to say) coming out
@@aslozbilen6555 I thought this at first too but now I'm starting to think that we shouldn't be too quick to judge. Just because she can't hear her thoughts, it doesn't mean she doesn't think. As she said, thoughts can be visual. I think it's similar to how some people learn visually and others need to hear things being explained. I do have an internal monologue btw, I'm just trying to better understand people who don't
She is amazing and I think she did an awesome job of explaining what the lack of an internal language looks like/feels like for her!
she is very well spoken which helps understanding her thought process
Not to my satisfaction she didn't, she helped me understand a little bit that she uses her mental screen more presumably, but what does that look like? How can anyone with this condition be creative in any way? Like let's try something here if you're you're a no voicer: Build a character in your mind exercise, any kind of character you want, do you see words describing the character, or do you see a mental image of the character in head and then describe it using words? Are words constantly flashing across your screen? I know my voice is practically constant, do the words like scroll across do they flash? Are they moving super fast or just kind of leisurely? If there is no image and just words how do you propose that I as the consumer of this character is going to visualize it? Does my visualization of the character suffice for you? If so is it hard to relate to others? I could see that being very complicated to say the least. Now, describe your character to me if you will, visual aspects first please, you can throw a backstory in after if you really want to. I still have no stance on whether this is something good, bad, negligible, or even actually real.
On the bright side, she doesn’t have to worry about someone reading her mind
_ Alyssa _ if you could read minds and wasn’t aware of people like this you may think they are robots. Hah
_ Alyssa _ this is why Edward Cullen couldn’t read Bella’s mind, she didn’t have an internal monologue omg 😱
ahhahah
Okay, ignoring the fact telepathy is pseudo science...
A theoretical telepath would very much be able to read my mind, in fact I'd imagine it would be easier, because it's straight up images(for lack of a better word) of what I'm thinking?
Except there is still thoughts in her mind and her brain is functioning so real mind reading (MRI scans) still work, maybe this technology can actually be applied to what you refer to as mind reading but it Would still work
As someone with social anxiety who practices what they're going to say before everything they say... I must say, I am PERPLEXED.
Social anxiety here too albeit mild, and it works out just fine without an internal monologue.
I recently learned that a starfish has no brain. If I get reincarnated, i want to be a starfish so I will never have to worry about anything again. I simply won't care. I guess they just run on instinct, response to stimulus. They would never feel guilty, or a need to apologize. How can someone like this have feelings or care about other people?
100SmilesAway well I’m high functioning Autistic I find this quite interesting and no chance I could not talk to myself
Most of the time I dont know what I am going to say until I am actively speaking it, if I do have a plan its abstract like a picture or feeling not exact words
@@victoriaharris3113 what how???
I’m currently trying to read comments without my internal monologue
I can’t
Myra Did me too! I almost exploded lol
Reading and writting without an internal monologue is completely impossible if you have one lol. Like I can hear my internal voice in my head as I'm writting this saying what I'm typing.
This comment fucked me up
I’m trying so hard to do this I’m clenching my jaw and trying to look at the words and not read them internally and it’s impossible.
I’d love to hear some deaf people people weigh in on this particular thought. If you haven’t heard your own voice, what does the internal monologue sound like, if it is even possible?
A person with no internal monologue turned out to be more interesting than I thought. She seems to be efficient and coordinated. I have an internal monologue/dialogue and a lot of the time is spent analyzing rather than performing. I am bilingual btw
I'm bilingual ASL and spoken English. I constantly thought in pictures, so the ASL was perfect for me. The only language I've actually acquired, although I try to learn several, meaning I don't have to think about what I was to say in either.
Internal monologue is just redundant. Solutions and original thoughts do not arise from "the monologue", the monologue is just a form of output. The display of a computer is not the processor, so to speak.
So people without an internal monologue have more bandwidth for actual presence of mind, whereas the monkey-mind-NPC's do not. I personally find anxiously ruminating NPC´s pretty run-of-the-mill and thus uninteresting.
Hmm, gatekeeping not having thoughts, that's a new one
As a writer, and a musician, I can tell you absolutely having an internal dialogue DOES spawn creativity. I can control the dialogue in my head and form my own sentences, it doesn't just happen like it's another person's voice. I'm not schizophrenic 😂
@@rubix1694 It's redundant. A waste of time. You'll understand if you start to meditate.
@@pacerhythmandtiming.4109 So not having thoughts is less of a waste of time than having thoughts? Maybe for you.
That sounds like what it's like to be a dog or a cat. I don't mind processing things.
My mind is blown. I can’t even imagine just typing words that look right in an essay. Or not thinking about what I’m writing as I’m writing this.
I didnt completely understand How she explained her way of writing in the Video but I for example do obviously think about what I am going to write in an essay, Just Not in words. I have the Theme And arguments in my head as a abstract feeling Thing and the words only come while i Write them down
I feel like I have more internal monologue than most people but I kind of understand what she means about the whole sentence structure and shape thing. To me sentences are more like rivers of words and when I spell words I tend to see them in my head. If I see a word I (usually) will be able to always know how to spell it after a few seconds because my brain takes a picture of it. Unfortunately it doesn’t do that for most other things
@@zviyeri9117 I think that's why you find it weird because you think differently. Its not as if we thing every single word down to the core is like. They all just come out, at the same time we're just typing it all out the words are being played in our heads. Atleast for me (with internal monologue) for example me typing this right now I'm just typing it just as fast as anyone. I'm not thinking about what to type down I just know it as I'm doing it. In my head 'all I hear' is the voice repeating after what I've already typed down/at the same time. It doesn't slow me down at to be honest. If anything my fingers have to keep up with my mind. Ever heard of the phrase 'you think faster than you speak/write' that's it.
She FEELS what she is writing as she writes it: As for the Shapes of sentences: Like the movement of information as it relates to you or in the order that you recieve it.. I do both think and visualize "packets of story or thought content" . I think in voice when I am doing things like reading or repeating things in my mind, and i think in "content" when I'm just instantly summarizing how I feel about something or someone or myself.. Content is like Information: it can be something or someone, it can move in a way or not, it can be good or feel bad etc it can bring up a possibility or remind us of a sudden blob of memories.... (That's why the sentences have shapes) however ... I think we're all somewhere on the spectrum of both, just using them more or less depending on our situation and personality etc, and who knows maybe a chemical reason? But ultimately we all do feel the totality or shape of the "content" or words Right before we say it. That's why some of us are very good at improvised poetry etc without having to plan it all out beforehand ; )
@@zviyeri9117 - Not so with me; the voice in my head is usually about two sentences ahead of my hand or fingers, so I'm scribbling or keying frantically trying to keep up. Or perhaps that is what you would find inefficient?
This all makes me so confused and uncomfortable. Everytime she explains I understand less.
Yes! It’s like I know she’s a human being with emotions but this is always how I imagine a robot functions. Especially when she describes her thoughts being organised as “files”.
YES
@@sophiarose778 I have an internal monologue, and I call my brain, "the database". Basically where I store bits of information, memories, internal shower debates, and useless trivia, where I can pull them out when I need to. But I also have the internal monologue that accompanies that, and sometimes it takes a while for my mind to articulate an abstract thought, so I need to pause and take a moment to formulate my sentences to more accurately reflect that thought. I also tend to speak my thoughts aloud to internally file and organize the important ones from the other noise. People I work with often catch me "talking to myself" when I get some quiet time alone. I think the "internal filing system" is a thing most people are capable of, not just for non-internal monologue people 🤔
editing comment for the 54th time to make it more readable
"I CAN have an internal monologue, but it is slow as $&#! and really make me feel incredibly dumb and thick. I think visually and it is one hundred times faster than waiting for the verbalisation."
full thread here if you're curious
www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/7tqjvd/how_do_people_with_no_internal_monologue_think/
She is me in many ways her responses seem normal. I always thought day dreaming was a silly movie troupe. I have never had a day dream! I also know a bit of a second language. I don’t do papers completely the same she does am a bit more like him.
I thought having an inner monologue was non-optional and everyone did. I’m so blown away by this.
For me, it's *optional* funny enough. I turn it on and off at will.
@@andrewnotgonnatellya7019 thats amazing i havent heard anyone say that before, i am the exact same way
@@user-pv7cf3ye6n Welcome to the club
it's literally the opposite for me. i never even thought not having an inner monologue was weird. this video made me realize why i'm awkward and have a hard time conversating...
@@andrewnotgonnatellya7019 so, sometimes you decide to not think in intense detail?
Side note: really great how these young people can openly talk about anxiety and depression 🙌
Poor girl, she cant have a imagined argument in the shower like i do every night
@@elizabethpappas6802 she said she don't day dream, i can't even imagine going through my days without that
Yeah, I always make up imaginary movies in my head where I'm the main character 😂 don't know how she can live without doing that
@@kissme8970 I do that and everything else mentioned so far, I'm never bored, my mind is like my own private amusement center. Guess there is an upside to being utterly mad!🤣🤣🤣
Nah, it's possible, but it would b out loud if she really wanted to. Additionally, I don't have an internal monologue either but I have a very active imagination, there's just no words unless I add them myself.
Nguyen Hong Minh while me always day dreaming. It’s hard to control daydreaming especially when you are bored.
My brain is like a local bar at friday night: someone's having an argument, one is just mentioning stupid things for no reason and there's always music playing in the background.
Fr that guy playing the music is the only part keeping it all together
My brain is one of those episodes of "the office"
This is the best description of my brain....
Yeah, that's what I got. Only the arguments randomly flip between different languages , the guy at the jukebox is flipping through songs at the slightest stimuli, the next guy is wondering out loud how they were played and recorded and the bartender is worrying that someone should go get more beer.
Juckey well its good im not the ony one doing this. Do you have a problem getting them all to shut up too? I certainly do...:[ also, in the event there is just ONE voice, does it change and morph into other peoples that you knw personally? Or is it the same voice but from multiple peoples perspective? Mines a mixture of both. Sometimes i read in my mother's voice, sometimes my own. Sometimes when im getting on to someone, my grandpa's stern voice is in my head like hes telling me the words to say. This is all very facinating!
0:22 “So it blew my mind… and I wrote an article about how it ruined my day…”
best line
I read this comment as he said it 😂😂
I don't quite understand why he seems almost offended by the condition. Is it just him implying he's jealous because the woman don't have to deal with the agony of having inner voice?
Who did he write the article for?
@@bapbirb He’s definitely not offended lol, it’s just that hearing about this for the first time makes it so it’s all you can think about (for some people at least) due to the curiosity that arises from this new information that’s been held from you your whole life until that point.
When you speak inside your head all the time, hearing that some people literally can’t is crazy to think about at first and some people could become a little obsessed with questions about how that even works 👌
@@Emmaem111 And, to expand on that, it calls into question the fundamental "I think, therefore I am"... as interpreted by many with an internal monologue. Their "thoughts" form to words in their inner voice. Their formation of concepts, by and large, form into words in their inner voice, often even talking themselves through visualizing concepts. For them, it's such a fundamental, intrinsic, part of "thinking" that the realization that some people don't, and *cannot* do that... it's a bit world shattering as they try to integrate a completely different approach to thought into their concept of how thinking itself works. The key point she makes, though, is that she still has, in a sense, that "inner voice", it's just not in the form of a voice. She *sees* the concepts she's working with in her mind. She just doesn't put them to words until she needs to for communication's sake (written or verbal). And, even language itself... she processes in an, as she describes it, visual way, while many are just so used to doing it in a sort of auditory way. The most telling part was... she *sees* her lists of stressors that're keeping her awake at night in an eerily similar way to someone laying there listing those things off in their inner voice. The underlying conceptualization of the things is very similar, with the difference just being how her brain shuffles the information around into focus, interrupting sleep. The lack of dwelling on the past... could be that she's just a healthier person, mentally, on that front, or it could be a side effect of the difference in how her thought processes work. There was a distinctly loaded tendency to dwell on "discussions" in that branch of questions.
I don’t have an internal monologue, I’ve only just found out that only a small percentage of the population don’t have one. I’m nearly 40 years old and I thought people were making it up regarding ‘not being able to switch their brain off’. I can really relate to the woman on the video. In my head it’s a very calm place to be. It’s amazing how different we all are!
An inner monologue stems from thoughts, of course, so having no inner monologue isn't the reason for being calm. You still have thoughts. People aren't playing word games in their minds, they're identifying with thoughts.
How do you do mental preparation, say, before a public speech you are about to give for example?
Ok so you look in the fridge and there is no milk left. What happens in your brain? Because my brain would go like „oh, we need milk! I‘ll grab some from the store on my evening walk, hope I‘ll remember“. What is it like for you?
I have another question if that’s ok. When I watch a movie and I can’t concentrate very well my mind will wander and I will then listen to my thoughts instead of the movie. When I notice I need to rewind. Do you get distracted from real life by your thoughts? What is it like for you?
her: the sentence shape
ryan: o.O
me: o.O
She over complicates things way too much, over thinks. I have always just played out scenarios, ideas, daydreams and on and on in my head. I won't even get into what the voices say!Lol, just kidding. I also do a lot of dissasociation under stress. Example, when my husband d starts to lecture me I have learned (with practice) to completely tune him out by playing music in my head or picturing myself somewhere I would lime to be. Problem is he has caught me in it a few too many times and I admitted to Him what I do, so now I can't get away with it and have to listen to him rant at me.
Van Gogo
Wow, your husband needs a kick in the butt.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim My girlfriend is similar, she zones out daydreaming all the time and sometimes I just want to tell her something that happened and it's like trying to get the attention of a brick wall. I understand her husbands frustration but if he is actually ranting at her (not just to her) then he probably needs some anger management.
The shape of the sentence is a weird expression.
Best analogy I can think of is a physics problem. While someone outside the field might think of the issue figuratively, so in terms of forces, objects and movements, someone very deep into the field or a mathematician might think of the issue purely as an equasion, so basically the shape of the issue.
All I want to know is if she's ever had a song stuck in her head?
FOR REALZ!!
I was also wondering about how music is in her head!!
Literally just said that
Good question!!!
She doesnt hear the song. But she will catch herself singing outloud occasionally.
okay but how does she fall asleep without making up fake scenarios about her crushes
Mandi Gail Nelson hey! I don’t have an internal monologue, and I do have those thoughts, but I just can’t hear them, they are just there in an abstract way
nope wow thank you for answering! that’s so interesting, but it does make sense.
Mandi Gail Nelson lol sis 😂
@desertrosereads I imagine things like a movie to but I then narrate the scenes like some movie narration at the same time in my head😂
How do you fall asleep when you do that? It keeps me awake if I do that.
I feel like I can see and hear all my thoughts. Even if my eyes are open I feel like I can imagine things so well. I can daydream about a whole story and someone will have to snap out of it. I just “space out” with my eyes wide open. I can imagine different colors, words, and anything else. The differences how humans think is so interesting to me. Would love to hear other views.
Dame and I also really like not beeing around people because living in my own head feels like peace
Same i was scrolling to see if anyone else could see AND hear their thoughts as well. Im shocked by not having an internal dialogue but everything else she explained made perfect sense amd felt like something i could do. I think im more likely to speak in my head but i definitely bring up images and things as well.
I have a constant running dialog that may or may not include pictures, but when I speak or people are speaking to me (or around me) then constant pictures form (which enable me to remember many details about a conversation even from years before, because I tap into the pictures of myself and the person and surroundings of the time and the inner pictures formed).
I can spend long periods just with that dialog and pictures. Daydreaming was definitely a problem in school because I'd miss an entire lesson.
Once that happened in a meeting. Something about the way the sun was in the room reminded me of 10 years before when a curtain blew in the window on sunny day at my office and reminded me of the time when I was a kid and the curtains blew in on a nice sunny day at my grandmother's house.
Then my boss said to me, well, what to do think?
I looked up. Look down. Furrowed my brow like I was thinking. And then said, I have no idea what you said. I just thought I'd that for a little while to make you think I was deep in thought... And then laughed and he did and everyone starting laughing, so got myself out of that embarrassing moment.
So while it can pass the time very easily, it's can be very distracting when we're really trying to pay attention.
I am struggling to believe anyone unable to think on the multiple planes of perspective (visual, conceptual, audible, etc) is capable of complex thought. I really need more explanation. She said she has never thought and reflected upon specific things she's said in memories. How is she intelligent without self reflection and memory?? My brain cannot comprehend it
@@frog2538 to the best of my knowledge it's because it's not that she isn't thinking, she's not thinking with words. You can think with pictures, sounds, emotions, and probably some other stuff too.
Also thinking because someone's brain is different they must be an idiot is really wrong. I mean compare it to a deaf person who's been deaf since birth, would you assume they can't have complex thoughts because they can't hear? It just sounds ridiculous. People without an internal monologue are similar in that one of their internal senses doesn't work.
That means she's never thought of pretending to be on a talk show in her head
Ava L actually as a silent thinker i'm imagining being on a talk show all the time, i see the imaginary host and my inaginary self sitting across each other and an audience, and clapping and laughing effects, but i sound out my answers (sometimes mumbling, sometimes like i'm speaking to another). When we want to, we can hear things as well, visual thinkers are not limited to visuals only, we can turn the sound on and off as the situation warrants it
Conan Obrien since I was in high school.
OMG I thought I was weird for doing this! 😂😂
Ava L i can’t even imagine what my life would be without pretending I’m in an interview 24/7
I'm kinda confused as to what she can do and what she can't. I can hear a voice in my head if I want to. But when I read, I do the same thing she does, I don't hear voices in my head when I read, that'd be way too slow, and I thought this is how everybody does it, you take in the information without having to read out every word individually. And I've seen studies that confirm this is the normal way, people see shapes of sentences and words rather than reading them individually, except for people with things like dyslexia who can't do it. We recognise common shapes and read those instead. It's why people can read words as long as the first and last letters are in the right place, even if the letters in the middle are all jumbled up. It deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
So she reads the same as most people. And it seems like she can visualise stuff just fine, so it's only the voice thing that is different.
The scary thing is that this points to the fact that there are probably other ways we think differently than other people, and we think everyone thinks like us but in reality not.
My mind was blown when I learned people can literally see things in their minds as clearly as they would in real life. I can imagine objects but it's more conceptual, can't really see any detail. I really wonder if people without internal dialogues can listen to music in their minds.
Sybrand Botes me too
Have you watched Ex-machina? If so *SPOILER ALERT* but there is an alternative ending to the movie where the female AI is looking at the protagonist as she locks him up and she can 'hear' him screaming at her to let him out. It switches to her view and all we see are waveforms of sound coming from the guy and her algorithms recognizing the waveforms as distinct words, etc. But does this count as hearing? It's weird to think because throughout the movie she was responding to the protagonist just like any other human being, as if she could hear him just like how all of us can hear eachother, but she couldn't, at least not in the way we do, but 'heard' us nonetheless. It got me thinking about where we draw the line on consciousness and our crude definition of it.
We've all had that awkward "I thought it was normal" moment ;)
People are more different from you than you can possibly comprehend or ever understand; people are more like you than you can possibly comprehend or understand.
It's practically impossible to seriously know someone else exists as this thing we call "I". And so we say "Cogito Ergo Sum" , not "Cogito Ergo Es" or "Cogito Ut Cogitans Ergo Es".
Yet isn't it stupid to think we are the only thing that has ever existed, will ever exist, and can exist? Every moment we leave a past self that existed -- yet I'm supposed to think this cannot happen to my consciousness? It has happened to the me of five seconds ago, it seems silly that it can't happen to me, the entity which exists independent of any one, stopped, place or time.
I have no fucking clue how you exist. But I also have no clue how I exist. The impossibility to comprehend my own nature makes it impossible for me to understand or not understand you.
Even if you are seperate from my concept of "I", that is still far more different than I could possibly comprehend -- yet how familiar you feel? I'll never comprehend how familiar you truly are, regardless of if you exist with this weird thing in me, or even are me.
Be wary. The homeless man you see down the street, the abusive people you encounter, the artist, the psychopaths and the lovers you find -- there is more of you in them than you'd like to know. But paradoxically they are a far different thing from you which is perhaps equally scary to know just how different they are.
girl: doesnt have an internal voice
my internal voice: writes several books when im trying to sleep
Fr tho
Saame!
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I don't have an internal voice, so I just make up several films when I try to sleep. The imagination is just as active, it's just pictures, feelings, and concepts more than.. words, I guess.
God. I hate how much I dream. It’s like, let me fricken sleep. I feel so active during sleep that I don’t get any rest.
Appeared in my recommended today, and I decided to watch it because I have aphantasia, which means I have no internal monologue. Funnily enough, when I opened the comments, I saw my own comment from three years ago that said “wait, people have voices and shapes and inner monologues in their heads?!“ my dumbass did not realise three years ago that I didn’t have an internal monologue, I just recently realised that I am one of those people😂
I love how he nods as if he’s understanding but he’s just as confused as we all are lmao
I'm so confused haha
And I don’t understand how she takes information in as he speaks. When someone is talking to me, internally there is a form of voice repeating what they are saying so that I’ve processed it. This has messed me up haha
Right??!!! I don't get it!
I don’t have that! I just comprehend the words and it’s hard to explain but there is no voice. It goes from the mouth of the person to my brain and it processes it. If it’s a more complex idea, I’ll either take time for my brain to make links or I have to ask verbally to clarify it.
Nishuti you know what that makes some sense to me. I guess our brains are doing the exact same thing but for us it’s a bit more noisy haha. This is so interesting!!!
Really? I have an internal monolouge but when someone is speaking, I just comprehend the words. Maybe the voice will talk when I need to respond, but not before
Wow, same! Especially when what’s being said is not on your first language, you kinda need to repeat that in your head slower with the voice of that person 😂
She must be very present in her reality.
Yeah! I feel like when I think of the past or future possibilities, I'm like traveling there in my mind.
@@samerinaa Not necessarily. I'm usually a silent thinker but am not very present at all. I spend most of my thoughts lamenting the past or fearing the future.
@Candace Vasquez Her "yeah" at the start made it sound like she was agreeing that silent thinkers must be very present in their reality though?
What do you mean silent thinker? If you spend time lamenting the past and future then you are using internal dialogue, and don’t have what the woman in the video has. Or are you somehow able to have thoughts about the future and past without using language based thought?
I feel like she’s probably really productive lol
I cannot wrap my head around this at all! I have a constant running monologue with occasional dialogs in my head. This seems so alien.
You have dialogue? Can you tell me more about that? Do they have the same voice? Are they both „you“ or do you imagine one of them as someone else? Or is it you pretending to be someone else playing their role like in a movie? Sorry this is new to me and really interesting, I only have monologue and it is basically me talking to myself
i cannot even fathom not having an internal monologue. my brain literally never shuts up, it’s always saying 3 different sentences and playing music at the same time. when it’s not speaking it’s because i’m making up a vivid story in my mind. how can you not think worded thoughts?? and how can some people not even picture images in their minds?? i find it so hard to wrap my head around.
Lmaooo this comment is hilarious and so accurate. 3 different scenarios, background music, the list goes on 😂
Your description sounds very stressful to me. I have neither monologue nor images in my mind - that feels very peaceful. This is called "unsymbolized thinking" - words and images are defined as symbols.
I can think with an internal monologue and I can think in wordless fully formed concepts, so I can see how other people may think with only the former or the latter. For example if I'm driving down the highway and I see someone cut off another car further down the road, I may think to myself that the driver is an idiot, but it's not words that come to me in sequence that need to be spoken internally. It's the fully formed idea of the driver being an idiot that manifests in an instant. I can then turn that into an internal monologue if I want, but the process of internally hearing myself think out the individual words as they would be spoken is way slower than just identifying the fully formed, underlying concept of somebody being stupid.
I've always been a very visual/spatial person. I spent a lot of time as a kid taking things apart and putting them back together. Memorizing lego instructions and trying to rebuild the sets without looking at the booklet. Just speculation here, but I imagine that your early formative years probably have a lot to do with whether you think conceptually or with internal dialogue.
try concussing yourself and that’s gonna fix it up for you
Lacking in an internal monologue and being unable to visualize is exhausting. If you frame the struggle in terms of computer software. Those like myself in either or both ways are lacking part of the core set of machine code instructions. So we have to create a constructed higher level language to inefficiently and ineffectively attempt to emulate the results of those missing instructions. Which often results in a poor quality, incomplete, or unintelligible interpretation of what the result should be. To complicate matters for myself personally I am also on the ASD spectrum. So life is one big mess of working 3x as hard in my head to get half the results. While being accused of laziness, incompetence or idiocy.
This whole concept is INSANE to me. My brain is, literally, making noise ALL of the time. All. The. Time. There's no quiet, there's just this voice reminding me of all of the things that have happened, could happen, might happen, might have happened... The possibilities are endless. Endless in that it never stops 😅
Do you think she's saying she doesn't think at all? You don't have to experience thoughts as words to experience thoughts at all.
same !! and with adhd and ocd (specifically the intrusive thoughts/rumination kind) i literally can’t fathom how she experiences life lmfao
Bro u might need to see a doctor
literally tho, and its like 1000000 different things at once
meditation is good for you brother
Does anyone find it hard to sleep at night because their inner monologue won’t stop yapping?
Murling yes! I have to listen to quiet talking in the background while I’m falling asleep.
@@britbyars , that's so weird. Any noise makes it very hard for me to sleep and any kind of talking is probably the worst.
Brit Tany same ever since I was little I liked hearing my parent’s tv on at night cuz it distracted me from my thoughts and helped me fall asleep.
Yep, i have to get my inner voice to repeat 'black' or 'dark' over and over to shut it up.
I can't sleep without a white noise machine, otherwise the 15 different conversations happening simultaneously in my head (along with a few Beastie Boys albums) will keep me up all night.
If you don't have an internal monologue, you probably just live in the present moment which is probably really good in general. You get a lot accomplished.
YES. It is good and something I’m striving to do more of. I don’t think it’s “accomplishing more” … it’s “appreciating more.” To be submersed in each and every moment as it is. Always living in your head robs you of this immersion. This is what my inner monologue tells me 🥴
I'm jealous
my husband doesn't have an internal monologue but he has ADHD as well and he does not get things done because he gets so distracted. I ask him to do things and he just forgets or was to busy doing other things.
@@violetdusk1968 sounds A LOT like my husband 😂 Mine passed the adhd test with flying colors tho 🤔😅 Alexa has helped him a lot with reminders cuz sh*t I got my own stuff to remember!
I feel like not having an internal monologue is the literal definition of “living in the moment”
Ya, like a cow.
I've had periods in my life when I think I've experienced this and it's actually the opposite for me. There were periods where I went entire days at school where I felt like I had few or no internally voiced thoughts and it felt like I was perpetually zoned out and unable to live in the moment. An awful lot of "living in the moment" involves noticing things in your environment and having thoughts on them, and I felt like I had very little reaction to the things around me. It's not really living in the present, or the past, or the future, it's living on auto-pilot.
I think my "blank mind syndrome" (you can research this if you want) was a manifestation of anxiety or a form of dissociation based on what I've read, so my experience may be different from hers. I also wasn't completely unable to voice thoughts in my head, I just had to make a conscious effort to do so. Verbal thoughts wouldn't spontaneously appear in my head.
Rather long comment regarding having no inner vision or inner monologue:
As someone without an inner monologue (and aphantasia) I can tell you that it's NOT living in the moment. I think that's more to do with your personality than anything. I live way too much in the past and worry way too much about the future - or not achieving the things I want to do in life.
And just to re-iterate what always seems to be lost on most people: NOT having an inner monologue does NOT mean you have no thoughts, memories, worries, mental health struggles and so on. That's not how it works. Unfortunately! I wish it did though.
And just to blow people's mind now: I have no inner monologue - and no "inner vision" (aphantasia), yet I teach and play music, both written and improvised - and a lot of people are confused that I have any sense of melody. I write poetry. For me it's actually bound more to feelings in music i.e. "add9 extensions make a minor chord sadder and a major chord happier", and utilizing that in solos, songs etc. even if it's soloing on simple triad chords. Same for any other intervals. And in poetry more so about descriptions.
I usually compare my mind to a computer without a monitor (inner vision) and without speakers (inner monologue). A computer without those still function. You can still input and output data. I bet if you placed your Browser icon in a specific place on your desktop, you could probably still find it without turning on your screen, you could probably even type in Google, search for something specific, albeit without the monitor turned on, and hit CTRL+p to print it. Or you'd know how to navigate with your arrow keys. Anyway, the "brain" of the computer isn't the speaker or the monitor. It still functions without those. It still stores data and it can still process data. Most of my brain revolves around "data" and language, preferably descriptive language.
Now, with that said, I can't recall my mother's voice or face in my mind, but it doesn't mean I don't instantly recognize her when I see her. I absolutely do, but it's not like I have to check things first. They just "appear". It's not like those flip a card memory games where you have to compare the card in your head to your mother's face. You just instantly know it's your mother.
As for poetry and descriptive language, no inner-vision and no inner monologue, here's an example of my writings:
The Diet of Muses
I have force-fed my brain mouthwatering inspiration for far too long;
7-course feasts with delightful phrases and exquisite expressions,
too many second dinners and too much indulging in desserts when already full.
I have stuffed my mind with honey glazed verbs and deep-fried superlatives,
and it has become overweight and immobile,
unable to move through my pencil onto the impatient paper.
The graphite artery is always obstructed and clogged
with nothing pulsing through its restricted veins.
Even though the pen often glistens and shines;
from all the melted fat of the filthy steaks it has literally ingested,
served up with a side-dish of sugar coated truths falling on my deafened ears,
I kept swallowing whole my own false validation
that may just have been crummy excuses to write nothing at all.
I never stopped to wonder what the diet of Muses even consists of.
It seems I am not half as well-read as I am mis-read.
I have been perverse with my inspiration for far too long;
pig-sized portions instead of healthy nonsense and word-salad.
I miss being 5 years old, and I miss Barney and Friends.
@@Cloudburzt this reminds me of the time when I closed my eyes and forced myself to just see whatever I can and not conjure up images. I lasted abt ten seconds until I found a shape that resembled a human and went on day dreaming. It happened like how we see shapes in clouds and then those shapes form an animation in front of our eyes opened. Ever happened that with clouds?
@@lemon4087 I get hallucinations when I'm in the dark with or without eyes closed, when I'm about to fall asleep and so on - I kinda justify it as my lack of visual sense and my brain making up stuff to compensate. I also wake up at night with hypnopompic hallucinations, but again, that's slightly different to inner vision or visualizing stuff. But I'm not able to have any control over these visuals that may occur in my "mind" - even at night in the dark. It's just there and not something I consciously conjure up. It feels more like my subconscious going crazy like "is that a ghost lady in the darkness of your room that you see with or without your eyes closed? Seems like it! Have fun, you two!" 😂
I wanna know:
Can she play music in her head?
Can she replay someone else's words in her head?
Can she think a negative thought about someone without saying it aloud??
hey, as someone who also doesnt have an internal monologue:
i can play music in my head? but i don't exactly hear it, i know the rhythm but i never know words. and i never "hear" music voluntarily.
i cannot replay others words in my head, i usually have to mutter it under my breath if i struggle to process a sentence.
i can. i'm not sure if kirsten also experiences this, but my thoughts are very abstract. i know what i'm thinking without hearing it, and i know when i shouldn't comment things aloud.
hope this answers your questions :)
I think you can have a negative tought without saying it. You can still feel and understand the concept of negative and bad.
@@aimeeistired when you remember memories do you hear the voices of the people in that memory ? like when I think about a friend or something that happened I can replay those events with everyone voices, can you do that ?
@@aimeeistired I suppose language can be a separate aspect as a fundamental thing our brain processes. But the question is can you hear sound at all to begin with in your head? For music, it is called audiation, the ability to reimagine (keep in mind, same as what we say "remember") the melody or harmony or rhythm without it being played for you in real life. So can sound have that lingering quality, where you can think of the sensory detail itself after it has been produced?
@@SyriusJupiter i cannot do that :( i can't hear anyone's voice in my head - not even from memories. however i'm able to recognise voices from memories.
As someone who lives with OCD, I am perplexed. My thoughts are constantly screaming at me. And the idea that someone just doesn’t hear their thoughts is mind boggling
Zoloft
i have no internal monologue but i still have ocd and severe panic disorder. my thoughts aren’t in words but they still exist
@@GUITARTIME2024 already take it 👌🏼
@@noname-of2yl oh wow that’s really interesting!
i have OCD and no internal monologue. TBH it makes it a LOT harder to manage my OCD because its harder to connect my obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviours
i don't know how exactly this happened, but back in 2020 when i used to meditate a lot, one day i was walking in my house and i suddenly realised that i was thinking a thought without hearing it. i do have an inner monologue and have had it since as far as my memory goes to my childhood. but that day i just felt the thought. i was thinking, but no words were involved. i just felt what i was thinking and started to laugh like "wtf why don't i hear this right now" it was not too different from how i usually used to think thoughts, it just wasn't verbal.
I have ADHD and I have never had a moment in my life where my brain isn’t filled with constant noise and chatter. I already talk a lot but I have 10x as many thoughts as I verbalize. This is so out of my ability to comprehend.
Yesss !! I also have ADHD (inattentive type lol) so I’m constantly daydreaming and even when I am present there’s so much chatter in my head. If it’s not one song or phrase repeating itself over and over in my head it’s me having a conversation with external me but also external me reminding internal me about stuff I need to do because I just saw a visual cue in front of me, and at the same time not realizing I’m singing that bit of a song out loud on loop. It’s exhausting 🫠
Literally 😭
I FEELLLLLL i legit have ten streams of conversations going on at once
If you want to make it a bit quieter in there, Vipassana meditation is very useful, but it takes time for it to work. Could be weeks, could be months, but you have to stick with it if you want to see results.
I have ADHD but I often find that an inner monologue is too slow to keep up with my thoughts. Instead I think in packaged concepts most of the time. It’s like when you skim read you don’t sound out every word in your head so that you can read faster. I do frequently sing in my head though haha
My internal dialogue is going nuts.
Deborah Wright that’s “crazy”.
Same
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I’m trying to read the comments without saying them in my head and it’s pissing me off.
This comment made me so angry but I love you for it
Haha I tried it, ive limited quite a lot of my social interaction and stimulation over the past few weeks and have long periods of it being very "quiet" not really in a pleasant way buy tried what you suggested and the closest I got was forgetting how to understand the english language and process the meaning of writing just agh! It's weird haha I think the brain needs some stimulation . The more you practice meditation the more aware and in control of your thoughts and feelings you'll be.
Wait people do that? When I read I dont hear any words in my head I just understand their meaning.
@@victoriaharris3113 really? I can even begin to understand what that's like
I just unknowingly held my breath when I tried to do this
I really love this conversation, i love understanding how other people think or how other peoples brain work. It’s beautiful ❤
I’ll bet she’s better at listening than those of us that have an internal monologue.
no, the other way around
@@jaycharles3356 how is it the other way around?
YES! because while having a conversation my little voice is just going sicko mode with everything else i’m thinking about
Did you say something? Sorry my internal monologue was talking
@@sarahsizzle367 you probably have ADHD or ADD to be honest. My mom and best friend have it and that’s how they describe when they are talking to someone.. they have to really focus to listen to someone
I literally never have silence in my head at all. Like I don’t have a single moment of silence in my head. My internal monologue is constant, even if I’m not trying to think about something/read something. I’ve tried to attempt to be completely silent in my head for a little bit but I can’t do it.
Same, I also have anxiety and add. I wonder if that is connected, if you don't mind sharing, do you have either of those?
Just meditate, it's just pretty much practising not to think. After a while you'll be able to just stop if you want to
Try meditation
@@joshlanders I constantly talk in my head, hope I don't have any disorders
Constant silence for me. It's actually convinced myself that I am dumb because I dont hear myself thinking anything
This doesn’t even seem real. I can’t even imagine how someone can not have a voice in there head.
I think in pictures; this blew my mind cuz I didn't know people actually thought in sentences
@@happiflowrr same here.
I am dyslectic as fuck but i thought myself to see words as picture,s.
So it helped solve some ( but not most ) of my dyslectic problems,
I always thought that the "inner voice" was just a figure of speech because, I figured, it would be super distracting to always experience it.
@dragnar12 @Mari Flores how does that work though. Like when im typing i hear thw words in my head as i type. Do you see pitcures of what your typing or do you not see anthting.
@@lachy4565 is see the words as a picture like how u see a tree wen u think of one.
This is nice for me but if I lurned a word wrong I have a really hard time adjusting it cus for me that word is linked to that picture.
Wen I type i am basically fitting in puzzel pieces to match the picture.
My sentences also make nog gramatical sens sometimes till u read it out load. ( I type the same sentences as in a conversation ) so instead of formal sentences it's like having a spoken conversation. ( Like how they record spoken words in USA court )
I'm one of those people that have zero problems going out to dinner by myself, or going to see a movie by myself. But I 'inner-talk' to myself constantly - everything I see and experience is accompanied by inner-talk. Now I'm wondering if part of my comfort level of doing things on my own is due to that.
As a child, I was fascinated by the realization that I could replay other people's voices in my head, even if I couldn't replicate them out loud. It amazed me how the brain can do this so perfectly, even when we struggle to match names to faces. But with voices, we can easily replay them in our minds.
tbh, i never struggled with faces, in fact I can see most things in my head how they are in real life. That honestly makes it much more easier to draw and I don't easily lose things bc I basically take mental pictures of almost everything I come across.
@@FriedRice3519how clear/opaque are the images in your head? are they fuzzy, clear/realistic could be right in front of u?
i cannot replay others voices in my head, or visualize faces at all. interesting! im definitely gonna end up a psychologist, i love finding out how others minds work, why, and how etc!
@@rxa_xna9370 So you can't imagine what your parents look like unless they're right in front of you?
@@salj.5459 exactly!, i can recall some features like their facial shape but otherwise yeah no
As someone with ADHD, this sounds like so much more of a peaceful existence.
I agree Keith! I just found out not everyone is having conversations, hypothetical questions, constantly hearing thoughts and questions/ accusations in their head. I want this ability. I have like 15 different inner voices lol
This truly does sound like peaceful life
And can you imagine how much stuff you could *actually* get done without the constant mental twisting of your to-do list, the proper order in which to do things, and without the internal whinging about *having* to do boring things, like paperwork? Wow. She just gets up and *does* stuff. Mind blowing. 😮😂
Like word. I can't imagine the peace and quiet.
Its not all that different. I'm ADHD with no internal monologue
I’ve heard it’s just as chaotic if you don’t have the internal monologue, we can’t escape the ADHD
Guess she can’t use the excuse “the voices in my head told me to do it.”
Or to think quietly
Tim Penner corny lol
Tim Penner She would follow her voice or see her words instead to make her do it.
The graphics in my head showed me how to do it
The images in my head SHOWED me what to do, is the same just images instead of voices.
as someone who also does not have an internal monologue, I relate so much with the way she describes how she reads, the need to always do something when we're alone and the way she writes papers
As someone who mentally overanalyzes EVERYTHING, this is absolutely incomprehensible to me ... I'm going to think about this for the rest of the day.
RIGHT!
You don't overanalyze things, you're paranoid
HAHAHA
Just another day in paranoid city
And the funny thing is, by pondering it, you're further away from being in the state she is in.
What killed me was realizing that the "Internal monologues" in movies were...actually real and not just plot devices?! I had no idea other people would actually have such things.
Lmao I had never considered that perspective, that's hilarious
@@TristanSune thats why it seems so fake when people say they have to use words to think
i can just ... you know? think
i can see a tree and not think "wow thats a tree, it has bark and leaves and is tall and there are browns and greens" and so on
i can feel hungy and want to go to the kitchen to grab something to eat, without thinking "hello yes i, maric, am hungry and to avoid starvation i shall go into the kitchen to search for food
@@Maric18
You live a genuine life, the kind that has been beaten out of most of us
@@Maric18its not all calculated like that all the time. Mostly " damn thats a nice tree" or "damn im hungry i gotta eat something"
but how does it work for you then, for example if you think "dang I gotta go to the post office!", how do you think that, if not in words? do you just get a picture of the post office in your head, or what? :P
This is literally the “No thoughts, head empty” meme.
None of Your Business yeah these people were the basis for the “NPC” meme, lmao
@@default2826 stfu freak
LD321 - I’m the same and far from an NPC. There’s no correlation. Audio vs visual thought doesn’t determine critical thinking skills. That’s pretty dumb.
@οὐτόπος
Thinking in images or data as opposed to language is
not "primitive" or "normal." Humans are varied and diverse. We already know this. We have a long way to go understanding the human brain much less neurodiversity.
I was literally thinking this when I clicked on this video😂
It almost sounds good to not go through life with a million conversations going on in your head.
just because the conversations arent words doesnt make them less of conversations.
Conversations with yourself?
It’s like trying to write an essay with both arms tied behind your back.
I feel like the fact she doesn’t have an internal monologue makes her really productive & good at studying. Especially bc she doesn’t day dream
blah I feel like she lying
blah exactly I’m always daydreaming and is really hard to be productive
Camila Jaramillo is daydreaming a bad thing?
@@victoriasweet7870 Same.
@@aysaaa965 Not at all.
I feel like these people DO have an internal monologue. Theirs just isn’t processed in the auditory part of their brain like most people.
define auditory, as they are not using their ears lol
Carolina S auditory is already defined, look it up
Cayla agreed
That's about what I was thinking
@@carolinas5132 I think they mean auditory as in you "hearing" it in your head. Just like you "see" something in your mind even though you're not actually using your eyes. You can see something in your mind's eye, so I guess you're hearing it in your mind's ear??
Imagine how productive she must be because she doesn't have any mental distractions. I feel like my internal monologue is always in overdrive, I find it hard to NOT daydream (my natural state). I always need to check myself to stay in the moment; almost the exact opposite from her.
I don’t have an inner monologue and I am not productive AT ALL
This is super true for me - I’m crazy productive to the point of burnout so it’s good and bad 😂
right??? i cant count the number of times i just sit and think about pointless stuff. it’s so distracting and definitely wastes some time lol, but i can’t even imagine not doing it!!
@@skaibby but you choose to not be, we don't have a choice
@@randomdude8327 lol people without an internal monologue still get distracted and daydream, it's just visual and abstract concept based. I have no internal monologue and these issues still exist, they just look differently.
I remember in seventh grade when we first learned “diagramming sentences” and all my classmates hated it… but for me it was an extremely meaningful very deep moment of linguistic clarity for me. I caught on right away, and I got obsessed with it! The teacher even made extra lists of increasingly complex sentences for me to diagram. I skipped my breaks because all I wanted to do in my free time for at least a week was diagram sentences.
*also, I didn’t talk much until AFTER learning how to read; before that, I didn’t fully understand how the word arrangements conveyed information
to be honest, her personality really corresponds to how she has no internal monologue. She is very calm and has very straightforward answers, which makes sense for someone who isnt constantly thinking up of things to say... the whole thing about the sentence structure made a lot of sense to me because thats how ur taught how to write or speak
Ohhh that's why they said she would be good at languages
I wonder if those like her are not good liers because of this, because they can't exactly think up in their mind the scenario and how credible it would be or what the other person would say.
Great points!
@@monio.9444 Yup. Me. I can’t lie or improv for the life of me.
@@katet5083 thats so interesting, do you find it hard to like write creatively or make up a story?
My head: Monologues, dialogues, debates, discussions, and when the 2 can’t figure out I speak out loud in the third person and tell them to shut tf up🤣
When your trying to sleep and your 16 dialogues wont stfu
I have this bad habit of repeating things in my head repeatedly and it gets on my own nerves, so sometimes I have to tell myself to shut up out loud or it will keep happening
@@maliakai5100 - Exactly me.
Dude r u me??? I dont have names for them but I talk to them and listen to them argue lol. Theres a shyer one and a bossier one and me the peace maker. Imagine the devil and angel on ur shoulders kinda thing
Omaygash this is so me!!! I freaking have to literally shout my my name to make my mind shut up. Hahaha
My brother has this and I asked him if he gets songs stuck in his head.
He says he gets the thought of the song stuck in his head but not the actual sound
Sarah B WOW ever since this blew up, I thought I didn’t have an internal monologue cause I can’t have conversations with myself? But as I’m typing this I’m reading it “out loud” and I do hear songs aaall the time. But I dont really recognize that speaking voice. Thank you for helping me find out who I am 😂
LouJurado I think it has something to do with awareness/consciousness. I can do tasks without having to think about them. Almost as if I was on autopilot, but if I want to think and reflect while doing a task, I most definitely can. For example, I can read an entire book and understand without really having to be aware of my reading.
Weird stuff lol
Wow
Oh my freaking God
Cool
Thank you so much for being so open about it. This is proberbly one of the best video's I have seen in a long time.
this woman will never understand what it’s like to get a song stuck in your head
Jealous ?!
I don't think that is true, since the memory of a sound is not the same as having original thoughts in the form of an internal monologue.
Yes we do.
This is like trying to imagine what it will be like after I’m dead.
Existential crisis tingz ✌
all leftists are dead? that explains it all! zombie npcs!
Onion Master ? fuck off with the politics
@@onionmaster7673 not having an internal monologue doesn't make people not intelligent
@@onionmaster7673 This whole npc thing seemed funny at first but now it is so unorignal that the people who use it are the true npcs. They do not have the capacity to make jokes themselves that they only use ones that others have made.
Was anyone else just talking to themselves in their head like "what?!" throughout the entire video
Yeah off course!
Definitely
Yeeeees
I had an entire conversation with myself during this video I am STUCK ON THIS
No, I haven’t ever experienced anything like that actually.
All this explains a ton of stuff that variates for people, like journals or diaries or people being worse at recalling some stuff/imagining/understanding. One of the most informative videos ive seen that made me rethink a lot.
I’m still so affected by this. So as he’s talking, she’s not responding mentally?! How do you understand anyyyything
This is what bothers me as well. Like, what is going in her brain in the few milliseconds that she takes to answer the questions? She says that 'when she thinks she has to speak' but she doesn't respond straight away, so WHAT is she *thinking* then exactly? I'm super confused, I feel like I can both 'see' things and 'hear' things in my mind at the same time, don't we all? Like if we don't, then some people woulnd't be able to think about a song, won't they? They would either only hear the voices reading the lyrics or visualize the music? It's already 3.30 a.m.and I'm definitely not going to sleep tonight.
@@spinacetta89 They think in an abstract way. Like ideas, pictures. We don't all do things the same way. That's the beauty of diversity
WAIT do you think something before responding? Like what are u going to say?? I dont understand at all
@@norahkalunda1234 I understand thinking abstractly, because I do that too, but I do both things at the same time, and sometimes I can concentrate and not have an inner monologue OR only think like that but I don't need to? I can't really explain it, I don't understand not having EVER an inner monologue or never abstract thoughts. Also, sometimes (and in some languages) I feel like I'm not aware of my inner monologue *consciously* but it could still be there, maybe this is what it's happening?
Also I commented after only watching the video for a few minutes, I usually don't comment straight away but I was SO confused. After watching it all and then another one about the same argument I understand what she is doing in those few seconds because I sometimes do that too. I just feel like I'm somewhere in the middle, as in, I can both have an internal monologue and not have it. Like when I'm alone I have it on most of the time but when I have to speak out, to other people, I just blur words out without thinking about them first, and it always confused me when at school they said to 'think before you speak', because like, I don't have the time? This is why I can't speak properly at all, I stumble mid sentence all the time because I don't know how to continue and I can't think.
*for those who can’t understand this:*
when she says “i can see the sentence structure” ( 2:07 ), it means that she sees and memorizes the shape of the letters. think of it as imagining an image of a house; your brain will understand that it’s a house. so when she sees a word, it’s silent in her mind but her brain understands it.
another example is when you’re learning another language with different characters, and let’s say you don’t know how it’s pronounced so you memorize the meaning of it. so when you go back to look at the character, you know what it is but just don’t know how it sounds like.
(木 = wood, though u don’t know what it sounds like, your brain now comprehends that 木 is wood)
this is kinda similar to the last point but the last example is when you’re looking at symbols/emojis. your mind understands what ✨ or ☯️ means, but there’s not necessarily a sound. when someone texts “hi 😗” your thoughts don’t say “hi *kissy face* “, but you still understand what 😗 means.
SHIENNE this is a perfect explanation!
Great explanation. I was having some trouble on how she explained her reading.
omg! i love this analogy. i am a very visual person but i think with an internal monologue. I never noticed that when i read an emoji in a sentence, my internal "voice" pauses for a moment and i just hear silence as i look at the image, (but obviously still understand what it means)! so cool to kind of experience her thought process, even just for a second.
While reading this I even made a sound for the symbols in my head
Exactly!
Imagine not having the downward spiral of negative thoughts when you’re depressed
I’d give anything for that!
she still has thoughts? these people aren’t immune to mental illness that’s not how it works?
@@streetlights111 Don't you think depression is more about feelings than thoughts?
Who said she doesn't??
You clearly didn't watch the video attentively.
I'm blown away. I have internal dialog in my head constantly. I think I would feel very much alone without it. So hearing someone who doesn't have it is eye opening.
As soon as she said “concept map in my head” my mind literally cracked open
I got both: internal monologe and a kind of diagramatically concept map. Often I even "sense" conceptual "regions". Like abstract conceptual atmospheres; they relate to each other. I use them to order vast amounts of new knowledge when reading several books at the same time.
Thomas Pawelek OMG SAME!!! I have the internal monologue, but I see Venn diagrams, bubble charts and concept maps in my head! Like pros and cons, causes and effects, and bullet lists! I also have the conversations in my head. I tend to think out loud as well, it looks like I’m crazy, but it’s just how my brain works.
My Toe Bleed SAME. this video and the whole topic around it has made me come to realize this and at first i thought i was supposed to have only one of them. glad im not alone
SAME.
My Toe Bleed that seems so stressful to me? having diagrams would make me feel overwhelmed
It seems like most people have a podcast playing in their head. She has a silent movie playing.
That actually makes a lot of sense now!
Yeah that’s a great analogy
Not quite, she can't imagine scenes either.
J Editor96 She says she sees text and shapes, so yes it’s visual, but not images. So probably more of a really simple PowerPoint presentation than a silent movie.
Most people have movies play in their head not just voices.
I was blown away when I discovered that not everyone thinks in pictures. When someone tells me a story or basically when I hear any words, I involuntarily visualize everything in like, 4K quality. I can't stop it even if I try. I've always hated when people tell gross stories due to this 😂. The difference between human minds is incredible.
i can’t think in pictures, when i found out daydreaming literally meant visualizing those thoughts i was mind blown haha. i thought daydreaming was just thinking…
@@ioweyouone I daydream without pictures though 😂 it’s just like listening to an audiobook, I can only see images when I dream.
This makes a lot of sense to me now. I don't get grossed out when given detailed imagery in words of something disgusting because I don't really see images in my head. I CAN see images, but not perfectly, and not for a long time.
If you told me to draw an apple, it's like my mind gets an image for a split second, then it's gone. The image is blurry and opaque, sometimes i don't even see ANYTHING AT ALL. Almost like my brain just automatically "gets it". And I'm a really good artist but I can't see Images in my head that well, even IF I TRY TO. I just " know how to draw". And once I start the picture I'm drawing, little by little I began to see the image as I'm drawing. But the image was NEVER in my mind's eye. It's like a jarbled mess of flesh colors not even closely resembling what I'm trying to picture in my head.
So I can imagine if there is a person that was capable of seeing images in 4k quality for a long period of time, and they are at a table eating, I could totally see them being grossed out if I said something like, "This food looks like diarrhea."
Since I do have an internal monolouge, I used to think it was weird when someone told me that they don't hear themselves talking to themselves before they do something. Their brain just "skips" the words and they " just know" and do. Very similar to how I can't see images, and my brain just skips imagery and I " just know" what to draw.
Wow that’s actually super interesting and reminds me of a time when I was much younger trying to figure out exactly how my young mind worked. I was sitting there eating a bowl full of worms covered in another guys puke and pee. Haha jk, gotcha. :P
Woah hey Greg
Mind blown! This is such an awesome interview. Thank you for diving into this concept. As a visual thinker this is unreal.
This must be so peaceful. My brain doesn’t stop the internal monologue, I’d love a break
Unfortunately no ☹️. Just a different kind of stimulation. I think in concepts, so it's like a zip from one idea to the next. I have emotional/experience filing, she has visual filing.
If you want it, you'll find a way! I have so many thoughts all the time. I started finding ways to calm & clear my mind. It's been so nice to find moments of rest there.
One way I do this is to let hot water in the shower pour right on my forehead & I put ALL my focus on the water and the feeling of it.
You can give meditation a try. It's not easy, expecially in the beginning, but with practice it can help you with that. It was really helpful for me.
Crystal Tocci read the power of now by Eckhart Tolle 🙏🏼
You realize they still have thoughts, right? They're just not dumb sentences strung together.
The phrase: “Thinking out loud.” Just got a whole new meaning.
It seems she lives life externally, all of us are primarily living in internal chaos
I think that's it. She is very reactive to the world around her and acts based on what is around her
Or internal harmony
Idk but going thru life purely externally sounds like an incredibly depressing and sad existence. At least she doesn’t feel that way because she literally doesn’t know better
@@Belihoney - You know what? I wonder how introversion/extroversion fits into this, if at all.
@@nerowolfe736 good question, I wouldn't even know where to start
This made me realize I don’t use my internal monologue that much. Usually with exams, reading, or writing. The rest tends to be visual. When I rely on my internal monologue too much, I tend to over think and be anxious. But thinking visually helps with my creativity and problem solving.
She seems like she's not burdened by analysis paralysis and she just does the thing she meant to do. It seems to be a very efficient way of thinking.
I just think it must be super lonely! The thought of not being able to just sit by yourself & zone out to your thoughts is so strange to me. I love her energy though.
I wonder if it makes it harder to self reflect and change though?
She still struggled with depression and anxiety, so I don’t know if it’s any better
@@dkdoodle i think in the same way she does, and no it doesn't make it any harder to self-reflect. i just don't self-reflect in words. i imagine what the consequences of my behaviour or actions might be in images. if i don't like how the scenario plays out, then it's time to change something.
nope, we still very much get analysis paralysis lol
I lost my internal monologue after being hit by a falling icicle at the age of 17. It hit my forehead very lightly and if I was just a split second quicker, I wouldn't be here. After the shock of what just happened passed and how lucky I was that it didn't crash my skull, I started to hear like a strong hum in my head. On the bus 30 mins later I realised that I do not hear any thoughts. I loved just sitting in the bus and day dreaming, listening to the two three unrelated stories fighting over each other. I had a very creative mind and did spin-off stories out of things seeing around me, often leaving me giggling. I thought the unusual silence will disappear after few hours, then maybe after few days? It didn't. Being called by a teacher to answer questions in front of a class was suddenly strange as I could not hear me thinking up front about the answer. I either said it or was quiet. I remember as a child I would challenge my brother which one of us can not to think of anything for longer but it was impossible to do, even looking at a white ceiling would provoke monologue about that shade in the corner or the small crack I never noticed. After that incident I was suddenly able to stare at things and think nothing. I hated myself for walking under that icy roof as I never took that path before. It took me few years to get used to it and except it as blessing. Others are taking yoga classes, trying to meditate to calm down their minds. I reached Buddha's level absolutely effortlessly 😅. The downside is that my opinion on things is just a feeling so I surprise myself often by the choice of words as I say it aload for the first time. Can't prepare myself of an argument in my head as I need to vocalise it in order to prepare what to say. Although it means I do not worry about things much as I need to force myself to think about it, which basically means that I need to start talking to myself aload, almost twenty years later I still miss my old vivid internal monologue...😢
This is fascinating because you’re kind of like a liaison between the “two worlds” so to speak. What you said about surprising yourself with what comes out of your mouth is fascinating
This is a gem of a story. And you would be the most unique of a case if someone was here to study you, kinda like a Phineas Gage or Patient H.M
I am the exact opposite of you. I went from not having an internal monologue to having one, but I only use it when I need to think. I remember one day thinking, “hey, i dont really think so much,” and bam, got myself an internal monologue. It’s really easy for me to not think about anything, but in areas like classrooms I learn to think about the answer I would give to a question, after a long time of not knowing what to say even if I have been paying attention. I don’t relive conversations, and am still shit at arguing because I can’t give a counter fast enough. Even now, I’m not thinking about what I’m going to type, I’m typing and the words are going through my hands to form sentences. However, I can think, and it all of a sudden just turns on. Its pretty useful but it’s annoying so its off most of the time (and I usually forget to turn it on too so haha).
hi, sorry do you mind if i ask? but do you feel like you struggle to win arguments since you can't really sound out what you're gonna say in your head? like do you just wing it now?
Do you ever get songs stuck in your head? Are you a good singer at all?
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liquid nitrogen i didn’t but i was reading a viral tweet thread about it so I’m happy this popped up. I need answers
My friend sent it to me and i didnt click on it then went to youtube and it was in my recommendations
I was talking about it last night and then it was in my recommendations
I read the article on Facebook and this video popped up on my RUclips suggestions
No one searches for commentary/documentary/vids
that's called an NPC
My internal monolog is off the charts. I basically narate my life everyday to myself in my head. Now I sound crazy.
You mean like a 3rd person narrative? that must be annoying.
Me too!!! I hate it. I want inner peace.
I do the same it can be maddening some days
I stopped smoking weed 3 weeks ago. My internal monolog is so much better. Weed just wasn't for me.
I do too... My god. Today's gonna be a ripper of a day finding out you are all out there. 🙏
As someone who has recovered from severe head trauma, I can tell you there was a period of about 4 years where, because of said injury, my inner monologue disappeared and I did the same thing she is try to describe. And to this day, almost 6 years later, I can not describe to anyone what it was actually like.
So glad to hear that you recovered and I'm sorry you had a traumatic experience in the first place. How interesting to understand both sides though. Do you have a preference since you can compare?
so im curious about something i have a theory that maybe she does have monologue she just cant hear it. now reading this i think thats another example you knew you had a monologue and got injured and you didnt lose it you just couldnt hear it until eventually it came back.
I had a rough concussion and it definitely messed up my internal monologue for a while.
That interesting, because I assumed this girl has some sort of brain abnormality or psychological condition.
@@klassixfps9069 no he/she did lose it, they said they have no way to describe the state of NOT having it.
Makes sense, deaf-since-birth people can also not “hear their thoughts”
Exactly. My whole family are deaf and they're thinking in pictures, shapes and hands' signs. I can hear but sign language is my first language and as a kid I used to think in pictures. When I started to read a lot if books, then I started to hear my thoughts, senteces and words. In the beginning I was terrified and shocked to hear thoughts, not to see them only. Now I got to used to hear my inner thoughts. Sometimes I switch my verbal thoughts to "picture" thoughts when I try to understand something, while studying or when I can't find a proper word.
In my dreams I can communicate at sign language, at my 2nd language (Polish) and at English. There are some dreams which I dream in only 1 language, some in 2 languages and some even in 3 languages at one dream at the same time.
@@01Natalcia01 that's so interesting!
@@01Natalcia01 whoa. thank you for all that information!
no they can, it's just not hearing words. Some think in sign language.
Yes and I don't get why he was so confused by this... I thought about and if you try to visualize things more and use other senses It's obvious there wouldn't be an internal "monologue" & I'm sure people can float between both.🤔 You don't need to talk to yourself to fucntion people are complicated & we like to act like we know it all but we don't know shit.