"This Is A Nightmare." Shop Does Not Carry This Bride's Dress Size | Say Yes To The Dress Atlanta
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- This is bride Amanda's second time at the shop. The first time, she could not get her dream dress because her size was not available. This second time around, manager Robyn is determined to help Amanda find her dream wedding dress, but panics when they meet another hitch.
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They owe her, they should not have charged the extra 1600. They've contacted designers and had costs reduced before. They should have done it here.
It has to be because they don't want bigger brides going there. It doesn't make any sense what they did to this poor girl.
@@pippiecarr9378 it's because the majority of the population they cater to are not plus size. They want to make money after all so mostly cater to the majority of their target market. DOn't pay the discrimination card when it doesn't apply
they probably refunded her the payment on her previous dress. They must have been very professional about it because she came back and was happy to see them
Or it might just be the cost of extra materials, as bigger bride needs more fabric to cover up. Simple as that
Pattern changes aren’t easy to redo. There is a lot of work to be done and will take time. The fit will be weird if done improperly. It’s not just a matter of buying more fabric and thread.
Her dad is awesome. Wants her daughter to be happy. So cute....
What a lovely dad,I am ashamed of myself for judging his teeth.
@@dipitickner1927 you should be.
@@nicolebee3273 I'm good now.
He has the cutest teeth ever! I love it!!
Daddy's little girl
She’s still married and has 2 children, so happy for her 🤩
that's lovely to hear, thanks for sharing :)
Aw. How wonderful. Thank you for the update.
💜 GOD BLESS HER & HER BEAUTIFUL LOVING FAMILY 🙏 SO VERY HAPPY FOR HER & I'M SURE SHE'S A GREAT MOMMA 😊💜💜💜
Yay!!! She seems like a sweetheart ♥️
excellent
As someone who has been in the wedding industry for almost 20 years 1. The should NEVER have charged her the extra 2. The store should of known what sizes their stock comes in. 3. They should of gifted her a veil etc or offered a discount for the inconvenience. Unacceptable. That price is ridiculous.
It did strike me as strange that the store did not seem as prepared the second time around. I don't know how much advance notice they were given for this appointment--maybe not a lot--but they really screwed up the first time (how did they put her in a dress that was not available in her size?), so they should have been better prepared for "success" this time.
I assume they already had the bride's measurements and price point. Based on those two things, why offer a return visit if you don't think you're likely to be able to satisfy the client? And if the veil was an unanticipated obstacle to dress selection, then offer an alternate veil to the client for free. (The bride might be able to sell the one she had already purchased.)
I imagine it was the editing, but the manager sounded like the bride's size in and of itself was already a huge limitation--and then you've got the limited price point and the veil--and they were being asked to work miracles. If that was the case, then maybe don't offer a return visit. Just suggest an alternate store where the bride might have better luck, and leave it at that.
I assume Lori's store does not work with other bridal shops to share inventory (plus size dresses, dresses in various colors, and so on) when necessary.
i can understand it being a little more expensive because you have to pay for more fabric, but $1600? that's ridiculous. and i agree about the free veil offer and discount, they owe her after their first mess up.
Maybe for the show's ratings, they made it bigger than what it was.
I was thinking the same, why didn´t they gave her a new veil for the first dress she loved
Is it possible there was a miscommunication from the designer? Like the info sheet about the dress said it could be made in a certain size, but it was a misprint?
If only this lovely bride could go see Jo and Al at Curvy Brides Boutique in Essex, England💖💖
Omg YES! She would get such a lovely dress there.
Yeah but the dress would be over budget if you include the travel cost :((
There’s an american shop that also had a show for plus size brides but idk what happened. There should be plenty of plus size bride’s gown shop in the US.
I was just thinking about them as well or sisters Yukia and Yuneisia Harris who own Curvaceous Couture, a bridal salon in Columbia, Md. I just love them & the body positivity attitude!! 💕
I was thinking the exact same thing ❤
Really shocking that they didn't make sure the first time she went shopping they put her in dresses that would be available in her size... That's horrible.
And completely unprofessional!
Probably they didnt have it, they didnt even know the price of bigger size dresses.
There's also the possibility that the first dress came in plus size but stopped a size or so before the size she needed so they thought it would be available and it wasn't. Mistakes happen, I have seen it multiple times, being plus size myself, where a company will offer my size but only on some articles. So if you ask the regular size worker they think it does come in your size but find out after that it doesn't. If you add the fact that every shop has different measurements for the same size it can get pretty complicated.
All they had to do was get on the phone and call..Kleinfeldts does it all the time
Then they wouldn't have a storyline. Manufactured drama by the produers.
the store could have covered the extra cost, considering they screwed her over the first time
Oh they didnt she grow in size
@@Mulmulmist No? She was the same size at her appointment when they ordered the darn thing.
I was thinking the same or at least discount half the difference. I don't know how much time had elapsed but the shop should have known right away to look up prices/order the dress ect.
@@bdavis7801 Exactly! My point is how didn't they know earlier that they couldn't get that dress in her size? It's there a sizing chart (even if it's approx) for each dress in their computer? Also Lori wants to call her boutique the best, then they need to have a better range of sizes for their larger brides. Them and the designer are already choking them on price, I'm sure that can fit in a few more plus size dresses.
they probably refunded the first dress. They must have been very nice to her because she happily came back. Everyone's human and she probably made a mistake
$1600 is a struggle for her parents, but a drop in the ocean for the salon. They should have paid the extra amount without another thought, and WITHOUT mentioning it to the bride to bring her more distress!!
They have done favours for other brides in the past( all deserving) why not for this girl???
@@jessicaellina3878 its not their problem she is fat, they have helped ppl with cancer n shit not someone that can't stop eating.
@@honeymoons6759 There are so many reasons people are overweight, not just "can't stop eating." What do you know? Maybe she's on some sort of meds that causes her to gain weight, or maybe there's an underlying issue she's working to fix. There's no need to be so rude when you don't know.
@@honeymoons6759 Big talk coming from a 16 y/o who's hiding behind a cat sticker, still says "poggers," and claims to be a "certified pimp." Go back to school and brush up on your grammar, kid.
honey moons They should have helped her because they screwed up the first time.
Love those parents! Not because they were willing to pay extra, but the way they raised such a confident woman and never stopped supporting her.
They were both so sweet
Yes!
I agree. I’m a plus size lady and my mother was the same with being supportive and encouraging. They are are great parents.
As a tailor, I have several issues with the shop for this episode:
1. Plus size options are limited. They knew she was plus size the minute they laid eyes on her at the first appointment. They should have pulled dresses and checked to see if the dresses were available in her size before putting them on her.
2. While pulling dresses, explain that there may be a high surcharge if a gown has to be custom ordered to accommodate a plus size. When you explain that the new dress requires a redesign, additional materials, and a lot of extra labor hours, customers are reasonable. Blind siding them at the end of the appointment is what makes customers angry. This also gives customers a chance to reevaluate their budget. They can prepare to pay more, or they can lower the price of the dress to make room for surcharges.
3. Ask if there are any additional themes or criteria for the dress. This is NOT the first time a bride has come in with a veil, although veils that need to be matched are usually family heirlooms. Other questions that need to be asked for dress matching: do you have your wedding colors picked? Do you have samples of the colors so you can see what those colors will look like with your dress? Will you be wearing a corset under your dress? Will you be wearing flats or heels? Will your hair be up or down?
When I make custom pieces for customers, I ask A LOT of questions. I apologize for the questions, but they know it will give them the result they want and prevent dissatisfaction. The vast majority of the time, I can actually exceed expectations because the questions give me so much to work with.
You sound like a pleasure to work with. I agree, they shop was really unprofessional and I don’t think they handled this well at all.
I am surprised that shops and designers have not figured out they need to be designing and making more and more plus and plus plus size samples and dresses! That is the reality of body sizes in the the US. I do not see that changing! Marketing executives need to open their eyes!
Pure truth! The devil is in the details, so better get everything double checked the first time around
@Leia Clark - You sound like someone I need to have in my contacts! ✂️ 👗 May I ask where you are located? 🗺
They don't care. Clearly it's all about the sale and not providing a comfortable experience for the bride.
I would have been embarrassed to air this.
They really didn't help rectify their error.
Right plus the dress she tried on looked like it fit well, they could of sold her that one.....
@@tyronzasmith3735 they can't bc those are the display dresses
@@tyronzasmith3735 plus she wanted customizations and stuff
@@tyronzasmith3735 The one she tried on had clips holding in an extra panel in the back. They couldn't zip it up, they put in a piece of fabric and clipped it in to cover the gap. While I agree they did poorly in accommodating this bride the display dress is definitely not in her size.
What exactly was their error ?
Really think the shop should have eaten some of cost since it was their error to begin with.
Agreed
Agreed
I thought so.
Kinda ticks me off, she's lovely, they should have been better prepared for her knowing she was coming BACK in with the same issue. She should have recieved a shop discount for her troubles Unprofessional.
Exactly!
No lmao
@Zero Zero JAIL 💀😭🖐
😂😂
@zerozero you’re a jerk! She looks beautiful the way she is!
@@alexiagiannopoulos5018 yeah, for a hambeast🥶🥶
So ridiculous. I work in a bridal salon and we have a curvy section that has a great selection of dresses that goes from size 20 to size 32. We have some of those same dresses in sizes 8, 10 etc and they are the same price & no extra charge for extra fabric!! For this instance, I would have looked at the extra charges BEFORE giving her the dress to put on.
I think they were worried about putting her in a dress she loves then dealing with everything else. There are so many things that could’ve been better and it’s not all their faults
I think it's because it's being televised.
It costs more fabric, more time, custom pattern, etc. It's It's designed by the designer and you shoudkn be encouraging people to be obese or overweight bc it's not good for them
If the price is the same for ALL sizes like you claim (and you listed a large size range) the cost of the larger dresses is folded into the smaller ones. The additional cost of labor and materials does not magically go away because a customer's feelings are hurt. So to make a larger woman feel better, your forcing a smaller woman to bear the financial burden. How tf is it fair that I have to pay for someone else's poor diet choices?
This is disgusting and unprofessional. It's the responsibility of the staff to stick within the customer's budget, and crapping on about it being a "challenging" appointment is ridiculous. No wonder people have body image issues
I totally agree. "Ugh now we have to MATCH THE VIEL with the dress omg are you kidding this is challenging enough🙄". No one should ever feel that they are a "challenging appointment". She's just as much of a bride as anyone else and she should have multiple options of dresses for her special day. And 1600 dollars extra because of her size?? Absolutely not. She had limited options, and was made to feel that her size was a burden. So for them to charge the original cost plus the 1600 dollars was horrendous. The dress wasn't made by gucci and they should never have made her pay for it like it was.
@@camallamadingdong69 I can't believe they charged her extra, like cmon! Agree 100%
@@camallamadingdong69 it costs more because she wnats high quality fabric, custom pattern, more fabric, more time etc. It's going to cost more. If a skinny person wants and needs a bunch of customizations it's gonna cost more
its not their fault that she is too fat to find a dress in her size. lol
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Those parents are the absolute sweetest, so precious.
I love how everyone is so supportive and no one is judging her, however the attitude of the staff calling it “challenging” and the fact she has to pay extra just ruuuubs me the wrong way, but her dad was super lovely and she truly is beautiful
I was not expecting them to let her pay for a second dress when they messed up the first one, bad service.
No kidding! They usually do better than that, and I have seen them give away dresses now and then to someone, so they should not have charged her extra~
To charge a lot more for a bigger size is just awful of the store and designer, i understand a bit of a difference many stores do that but not a huge difference
I'm guessing they refunded her for the first dress after learning it couldn't be made in her size, or allowed her to roll over the deposit to the new dress. I dont think she paid for 2 dresses.
@@panda5122 Why wouldn't they refund her money for a dress she ordered and couldn't be made? Legally they had to.
@@callieking8860 I know. My response was to the original comment that the store gave her bad service by making her pay for 2 dresses. I don't think the store made her pay for 2 dresses.
Her Daddy is making me cry! He didn't want her settling for something less. 💕
The selection is limited because, unless a specialty plus size shop, stores don't order this size dresses.
A shop this big, you would think, would carry many plus size options.
And you can get a dress made custom for just the extra size charge of $1600.
Exactly!
However from the sound of it, designers don’t even make the effort to create pretty dresses. Almost seems like their attitude is plus size women aren’t worth the effort imho
My friend is a small designer who makes custom gowns. They start at 5-6000 CAD. In fact, her business is pretty much off the rack because the market is not there for the price point of custom gowns in our area. Too bad Sears went under. They were getting some nice wedding gowns in their catalogs in basic, popular cuts for well under a thousand.
It’s so sad that these beautiful people can’t find a dress (or other nice clothes tbh) because shops don’t think it’s worth the effort
@@rachelgarber1423 Perhaps a specialty shop (plus size wedding shop) in her area or not too far away would put more care and consideration into their dresses. I would imagine they would also care about the bride's experience at their establishment. I do agree with what you said, though and it's unfortunate.
It's ridiculous that there are not more curvy boutiques in the US when so many people are overweight
Just had the same thought, I'm plus size and hate cloths shopping, but the one time I loved was picking my wedding dress, the shop was only small and the dress I picked didn't fit right because it wasn't my size, I worried that they couldn't make it in my size, and was told to pick anything I wanted and it would be made. I got the dress of my dreams, and walked out smiling with my ball gown dress ordered, and cost no more than the price tag.
I think there are but they're just not on a TV show.
It's ridiculous that so many people are overweight
68% of North American women are “plus size” shoppers. Retail and couture are absolute idiots for failing to take advantage of this potential revenue. It just goes to show the hatred out there towards certain groups of people in our society. Why are other people’s body size, colour or language supposed to be up for public evaluation. Our wallets all have the same cash inside.
Elizabeth Menagon the only thing looking ridiculous here is you. Your rude comment can be seen by people, including children, who are potentially suffering self-hatred and bullying by others. This type of comment affects everyone, not just specifically larger people. You might think you’re “normal” but your attitude is far from it. You may yet have the opportunity to be marginalized by society. I wish you the strength to survive that journey.
I love Robyn and I know she was doing whatever she could and I think she was shocked at how much extra it would cost..... They should make the extra pricing much easier to see on the labelling in store (even if it's just three example prices at different standard size points, so you have a rough idea before putting the bride in the dress). They should also label up to show maximum (and minimum) size available so brides aren't disappointed.
This stuff is made in sweatshops so it really isn’t justified. Most of the stuff we see on here is made in factories. I knew some girls who worked in a factory in Canada, so, fortunately well-paid on piecework. They bring the components over and assemble it here. All this European designer stuff you get is made by little girls close to the point of sale. The girl who serves your breakfast at the diner might have made your Chanel bracelet or Swarovski earrings.
@@alisonfraser3305 that is also true. I wouldn't mind paying the extra if it were actually going to the workers as fair compensation for their time and artisan skill level.... but BOTH clearer labelling and BETTER labour practices needed. Not mutually exclusive ideas.
@@charlieblackrose I agree, I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I also would like for my money to go to those who worked on my dress. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but I do make an effort to purchase handmade clothing and jewelry or at the least find sustainable fast fashion alternatives. If it's something I like and can't find ethically, then sometimes I'll still purchase it, but I do try not to.
In the case of my wedding dress, it will be bespoke, so my money will go directly to my seamstress.
I really think the labeling could be a standard practice. I know ahead of time I can't shop at certain bra stores because they don't carry my size. I'm not a large woman and I don't appear to need a "large" bra size. However, my cup in relation to my band size is what I consider a "little" F (or E once I lose my quarantine weight.) I am usually a 32E when I'm at my smallest weight and a 34F when I gain. My largest weight had me at a 36FF/34G, and I tend to like a smaller band size so I would order my sister size. A 32E looks small on my frame, because it is. I'm pear shaped. That doesn't change the fact that it's harder to find my size and sometimes if my band is too small, plus size bra companies can't service me, either. It would make shopping easier. 😅 (for reference, I'm 5'5.5" and my smallest weight is in the 150's. Because I'm pear shaped, the smaller I am, the more my ribs show so I try not to go lower than that.)
@@BettyAlexandriaPride I totally hear you. I don't think any of us can be perfect but it's good to just try our best & be aware as consumers ❤
I love the idea with your wedding dress, and honestly it'll still probably come in cheaper than some of the extra charges they seem to apply - my jaw dropped at $1600 and I agree with Alison that it's almost certainly not going back to the artisans as I am not at all convinced that doesn't include a ridiculous mark up (BUT I am not a seamstress).... I've often thought labelling with a FULL breakdown of costs including wage for x artisan hours would be wonderful to see. More transparency and accountability at every level.
I live in the UK and I am really struggling to get sustainable formal work clothes in my size and style at the moment, and I'm at the lower limit of plus sizing usually... which is just above the UK average women's clothes size, which is a whole other rant too.
It is extremely frustrating that neither "standard" nor plus sizing don't cater for a range of body shapes more, both in terms of design and in terms of range of sizing provided. Bras are a particular minefield for this! (I actually sometimes have the opposite problem as you as I have larger underbust to a sadly small chest though I am also pear shaped!)
Get a dress made...that way it will fit & be yours...
The extra charge was just ridiculous!
The family, including the bride was so sweet! I just wish her a happy future with her husband.
Is it just me, or does it break your heart to see a family struggle to pay for a dress that will be worn once and discarded?
no
Yes, I do too.
It won’t be discarded. Definitely not.
It can be sold, make a Greta memory or passed on to family
Yes... perhaps the entire wedding industry is .... gasp.... a bit ridiculous....
Love the hubby at the end - "you're not supposed to tell her but i couldnt help it" what a softie haha 😙
As a curvy plus size girl myself, I’m happy she found a dress, but this is such a legitimate issue. Stores either don’t have my size, the plus size is ugly, or the plus size is so much more expensive. It’s very frustrating.
Same girl.....😞
That's the reason I stopped buying dresses often & switched to tailoring custom dresses.....(100x better)
So called brands and stores almost always specialized for skinny People....
We just have a handful of choices....
This gotta stop😣😣.....
#stopfatshaming #normalizeplussize
There's a wonderful wedding dress shop in Essex England run by two lovely ladies that's only plus size. I understand it's impossible for most people to make a trip like that just to look for a dress, but there's one great shop :)
@@rileyroo2381 May be because bigger dresses require more fabric?
Maybe, but that might not equal more expense, depending on how the pattern is cut from the material.
@@L.Spencer in my experience it’s always more expensive :(
The fact that she came back to them and they covered absolutely nothing, in regards to cost, is horrible.
Amanda’s mom and dad are absolute sweethearts
I thought so too.
As someone who knows how much work it is to change a pattern and how much fabric costs I still do not understand why that price is not already on the price tag.
Love that very plain, very elegant dress on the second bride! Too few people understand how effective restraint can be. She really looks great!
I know I loved it. But I get that a teenage girl wants sparkles everywhere
Absolutely gorgeous 🌹
The poor girl for such a ridiculous charge, Thank goodness she has a lovely family bless their heart!!
This is the worst episode I saw so far. It is so sad to hear them tell to a person: well, because you are bigger you have to pay more 1600! That’s crazy!
It takes a major pattern alteration, customizing etc so it will fit her properly including more labor and more fabric. It was going to cost more.
Isn't it only natural? If something uses up twice the material the cost will be higher, easy as that. Is as if you said that if I need 1 hamburger to feel full at dinner and another person needs 2 we should pay the same. Well nope :P
Anyway - shop messed up, they should have paid.
The "nightmare" is that so many bridal shops do not really cater to curvy ladies. Wish everyone could go see Jo and Al in the UK at Curvy Brides. Lots of dresses and they love bigger gals. So glad she found one.
No one should have to cater to an unhealthy body size because that's enabling disordered eating. Wanna fit in a nice dress? Lose the fat, live longer, have a better chance of successful marriage.
@@h3arty wow, so no bigger bride has the right to a beautiful dress? Judging and shaming folks NEVER works to mold them to your way of "should be".
@@sarahdee374 I'm aware I have this unhealthy way of looking at it that I apparently can't change, but I really don't think we should be blaming them for not absorbing the costs in this episode. We weren't born to be fat and we shouldn't enable it. Wanna look beautiful? Stop eating so many cakes and donuts and put in some real effort into your health. Sick of it
@@h3arty you may not choose to change your attitude that's your choice. But you definitely can choose what you write and say about and to people. You have NO IDEA what any other human being is and has dealt with. How about just choosing to be kind and compassionate?
@@sarahdee374 You're right. Maybe I'm not being kind or compassionate to myself and projecting this out, because I've had my own struggles with body image, and it's hard to see people in this position. Sounds like my inner critic/critical parents' voices are in my head and acting up. It's just really sad how much society pushes slimness onto us. We shouldn't be shaming or judging anyone, I know that. This ain't easy.
This was so unprofessional of the store. They knew that they had messed up on her dress order the first time, they knew the budget, they know larger sizes cost extra, and yet they put her in something without checking the price in her size. They deliberately did this to manipulate her into going over budget. How cruel. They owed it to her to make it within her budget, or not put her in it in the first place.
Easily one of the most loving and supportive families to ever appear on this show, I was in tears watching when they were told about that ridiculous charge!
I wish this bride could have gone to Chicago to *Haute & Co* because they specialize in plus size dresses and they don't rip you off with last minute charges like this store does.
Yes I was thinking the same thing.
Last minute charges? She needed a whole new dress made and a pattern created. This was not a last minute thing.
The main point is every bride should have a choice and not have to settle for a dress because it is in her size.
Why didn't the salon check on size availability from the designer on the original dress when writing up the order? They know many designers don't sell larger sizes of their sample dresses.
There have been heavier women on the show. Bride is keeping so calm and cool and collected in this difficult situation. I feel for this woman. I'm heavy too.
What beautiful supportive parents. The plus size price gouging was steeep!
She's not even that big! I've seen way larger women in decent dresses.
Right? It's not like she's some uncommon size where it would be understandable that they didn't have something to fit her. Lots of women are that size.
That is what I was about to say, shes not very large. She is "plus size" but she's not a specialty size
What???????? Oh please don’t lie. She is very big and it does not mean she is not worthy to wear what she loves but come on. Quit the hipó crecía.
No wonder so many girls have weight problems.
Lying to their faces.... oh dear you are not that big.
@@ivonned32 I believe they meant for North America/the US she is still within a normal range (every country has different obesity rates etc and shops should be prepared).
Yes, of course we should encourage overweight people to lose weight (as recommended by their doctor!) just as we should support underweight people trying to gain weight (again under professional supervision), but we need to be aware that plenty of people are unable to (easily or at all) lose/gain weight due to health conditions. So I'd not judge or think I know better than them - if they're my family or friend I can help practically (as advised by their primary caretaker!) and online I can pray that they have support from THEIR family and friends. :)
PS: as other comments have pointed out before me, shaming can be a motivator, but it isn't necessarily the best and can negatively affect your (mental or other) health.
@@tabitas.2719 shaming is no help but the truth is. How are these young beautiful girls are going to become healthy when people lies to their face?
So yeah, let’s quit lying to them and bro g solutions because even if the USA thinks this is normal well is not.
I am overweight my self and I don’t appreciate when some women pretending to be my friend tells me oh no you are not overweight because that is how I put 30 pounds extras on me. Believing the lies of others. Now I can see my self and trust me , I love my self but I need to lose weight. See? Is not the end of the world or cruel town to say the truth.
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She deserves to feel like a princess. Even if it costs more, she’s worth it 🥰
Her parents are the sweetest for paying extra for her dress! She looks stunning! What a beautiful bride ♥️
The consultants talking about how difficult this appointment is makes me cringe a little .
I agree. She acted like this Bride was such an unusual size. She isn’t. And there should be no reason for her to not be able to find dresses.
Her parents are so sweet..😍
So glad she was able to find a dress! The dress and the veil together were beautiful!
I would have walked out of the store. Its not fair. They messed it all up for her.. Called her back only to do it all over again.. They should have waived the extra charge because of the inconvenience they caused earlier.
Yes... should have said... thanks, but no thanks......
she should have gone on The Perfect Fit. They deal with just plus sizes but they are in Chicago.
She's lovely , and the dress is gorgeous, but that charge is steep ! Anyways wishing them a blessed marriage 🙏 x
Agreed. She has a lovely family
Totally agree, so much higher cost is ridiculous.
What a great family the bride has. They are so supportive. The second bride’s dress is so classic and suits her beautifully.
Her sweet father...what a blessed young woman to have him!
I feel as though they were being extremely unfair to the curvy bride. I have seen them break their necks to reduce pricings on dresses for other brides for other reasons so I don’t see why they didn’t even TRY here. I mean they act as if the woman was 600 pounds. 😡 to have her believe she was getting a dress only to call her back and tell her she CANT have the dress because they won’t make it in her size (which means just letting it out) and THEN charge her extra for the dress she DOES find? I feel they took advantage of her sweet nature which makes me sick tbh.
Plus size brides really need a specialised store. They need to be designed and built differently to be really flattering. It's not just a question of making the same dress a couple of sizes up.
Have one here in Maryland. Used to have a show on TLC.
Curvaceous Couture in Columbia, Maryland.
Her family is so supportive and I love how the consultant was doing everything to make sure she was happy.
“I’ve been in love with her since the day I met her. I know you’re not really supposed to tell her that but” no! No buts! Tell her! ❤️
How much courage and self confidence and positivity it must take to be put through that situation.....twice. She was so gracious about it. Beautiful person inside and out and I hope she had the happiest day and felt beautiful.
The black woman's wedding dress is one of the very nicest I've seen on this show. Simple and suits her body and style.
Who?
Shouldn't they have prepared for her next visit with gowns in her size and budget ready to go? To compensate for what they did to her last time??!! Now they've humiliated her again!! Where is the professionalism that Lori's bridal usually appears to have??!!
And the manners
You do realize they are paid and not doing it for free? The bride brought a veil that the dress had to be matched to it? I'm sure the bride was told about the dress sizing issue as soon as the store knew, or just perhaps this one was filmed the same day, you just don't know its for telivison.
Amanda did look like a princess in her dress❣️ And the veil was just perfect.😊
2nd bride looked so elegant in her dress. And her groom, wow 💓
Blows my mind how designers haven't tapped into this market. There are SO many plus sized brides
So true Mel. Especially in the U.S.
They don’t want to. Fashion as a whole is obsessed with skinny people. Even for “regular” size clothing they usually showcase the clothing on models who maybe max out at a size 2
I never worked in bridal but I did work in women's clothing stores and it was always true that yes we carried " plus size clothing but it was generally made with cheap fabric poor design quality with no acknowledgment that women come not only in different sizes but in different shapes and therefore require different garments to look their best. No one should have to try to find a dressmaker to make clothes for them so that they can look professional and well-dressed. Out in the real world there are plus size doctors lawyers pharmacists accountants IT specialist who are curvy women.
I’m absolutely weeping at the sweetness of this dad. I can tell he always made sure to let his daughters know they were beautiful and loved. Bless him.
I love this plus-size family. They are so kind and supportive of each other!
I find it heart breaking they charge so much because she is a plus size... So much for confidence
They arent deliberately punishing her because she is fat. When you are bigger that is more fabric and more work. It's not that hard to comprehend. The designer needs to break even for the work they do.
@@tiana1420 I get ya, but a $1,600 price increase is just too much. I could see $100-$500 depending on the fabric and beading.
@@lstaplestex She also requested a specialized pattern. Custom work will cost more.
Every single human should be confident but how can you be confident knowing you’ve made yourself super morbidly obese. You can be fat and unfit and still happy but how can anyone justify being this obese. Should we tell anorexic people to just be confident even tho they get to dangerously low weights?
@@ala4737 Completely unnecessary comment. Please stop.
One of the nicest families ever .Why didn't they give her a deal on that dress, seriously.
Where is the goodwill gesture from the shop? Not good customer service. If I had returned to the shop like this bride and they did this, I would walk away.
2 beautiful brides and no mean families this time! ❤🤩😍
This episode makes me sick. Instead of telling her about a wide range of sizes, they act like it was nearly impossible to find one in her size. A professional salon would now their designers and dresses and none of the problems should’ve been brought up as a surprise. Truly reprehensible.
wait sorry, what do you mean by “a professional salon would now their designers”? Uhh what do you mean *now their designers* ;-;
@@LezGoBeezrule im guessing they forgot the k in know... dont have to be so aggressive
@@lilyleaf5516 I’m not aggressive?? I just didn’t get it
If she ever lived in china she would have been crying
She also should have had a discount.
That’s outraging. She does not have an unusual figure and the store should offer dresses in more than 3 sizes. The “extra charge” was the price of an extra dress!!
More material equals more work involved.
It does require more supplies.
I think it’s the designer or maker requiring more money - not the store.
Totally correct. She should have to pay extra for the dress. Not when they were at fault with the first dress. As a plus size woman I understand the problem
@@heatherg1706 that’s correct. They mentioned in the video that the price came straight from the designer.
It depends on the designer not the store. And actually half the dresses there go up to 16-20. Being obese is not something taht shoud be encouraged and neither should being overwieghr
Amanda I hope your day was all you dreamed of. You looked beautiful
What a sweet family. The world would be a happier place with more loving parents like these.
This is the worst episode ever. They made the sweet bride feel and look bad. Not once but TWICE. This is ridiculous. It's your fault you don't stock dresses for curvy brides. Shame on you! If I was in the bride's place, I 100% would have walked away.
she wasn’t being held hostage! she could’ve left if she wanted
@@zbedfi that is true. That's why I said, if I was in her place, I would have walked away. But there is a basic customer service or a courtesy, which was missing from this store.
@@zbedfi She had a contract...
Bridals by Lori has been in business for years. Shame on them for not expanding their size range to serve more brides! Why are plus-sized and curvey women underserved?
What is considered plus sized is constantly getting bigger. 30 years ago when she opened (or more like 40 since these episodes are old) plus sized was much smaller and they have dresses much bigger than those. They just don’t have all sizes.
Seriously! I get that it's impossible to cater to literally everyone, but this bride was nothing out of the ordinary. Her process should have been as smooth as a size 4 bride's.
They are not. The market has really expanded (excuse the pun).
It was the designer who could no make the dress in her size
It’s not BBL’s fault. The designers and the brands they carry don’t have larger sizes. I think they should’ve paid the difference of the extra cost though because they messed up last time.
Wow. After all the crap she had to go through by the salon and already having a veil for the first dress she bought, they could have given her a veil for free to match the first dress she tried on after the SALON MADE A MISTAKE trying to sell her a dress outside her size. Noooo...but saying it costs $1600 without any discounts. Don't think I'll be referring plus size girls to Loris.
This episode made me sad. UNFAIR (gotta love the parents)
They should have known what sizes their dresses come in. Honestly, they should have covered the entire dress price after breaking her heart over the first one.
What a sweet Dad and Mom. She's a lucky girl. I unfortunately did not come from such a loving family but it warms my heart to see a family like this.
She should be given a discount for her time and trust being wasted last time. They're lucky she came back at all. Also, so tired of the 'fat-tax' designers add to their gowns, overcharging brides for being bigger. There's no way the extra fabric and workmanship come to $1600, give me a break.
I sew, trust me wedding fabrics are that expensive. Especially if they are beaded, they start at 50$ a yard. But just include that price range on the the tag so you don't get these kinds of situations.
There was an info sheet Robin was looking at. The price tag is probably the base price but the store has to consult the info sheet from the designer.
‘Give me a break’ my ass. You have no idea how much work craftsmanship like wedding designing takes. It’s not a fat tax, and it’s not the designers fault someone’s fat.
@@TemariNaraannaschatz
I sew. I know how much a yard is and how much it takes to make a plus size dress etc.
Even if this material was 50$ a yard the amount is still excessive and this is still something that should have been handled beforehand and a whole helluva lot more tactfully.
For that price that fabric better be lined with precious metal and real genuine pearls. -.-
@@AuroraLalune I live in a country where fabrics have on top of their price (and with wedding fabrics that can can be extreme especially for beaded fabrics that often start at 50$ a yard for normal beads, let alone swarovski crytals that are often used for wedding dresses) a 19% luxury tax, which makes it even more expensive.
BUT I absolutly agree with you that this is not how you handle things, as I said so aswell. Just add a chart or list the highest price, then at best other brides are happy that it costs less. What they did is bs that only exists to make them pay more than they intended to.
$1600??? That's like a whole other dress! She should have walked.
The charge could have been a couple hundred dollars, it shouldn’t have been so much! Designers really overcharge for fabric that costs less than $20. Her family looks so sweet🥺 I’m happy she was able to get the dress, but designers need to do better!
If a pattern change is needed, the cost goes up dramatically. Someone needs to redraw each piece of fabric from the original pattern pieces. This takes much more work from additional employees who need to get paid.
Silk taffeta most definitely costs more than $20. It can easily run $50 per yard or more, and depending on the drape and style, you could need several yards. I'm not saying that $1600 is entirely justified, but as someone who sews, I can tell you the time (designer/seamstress labour would be several hours on adjustments) and cost of materials to customize a pattern and make a larger size is significant. I feel bad for her, but I also understand the cost. Sewing is time/labor intensive, and material is expensive.
@@ColleenMarble Funny you say that when petite (0-2) dresses don't get a REDUCTION in price because they use less fabric.
@@terrib627 That is a very good point. But I have no skin in the wedding dress game. It's not my profession and I don't set the prices. I was merely responding to why a CUSTOM plus-size pattern would be subject to an upcharge.
@@terrib627 preach
What lovely parents, just wanted her happy on her special day! She looks beautiful!!
Oh I love this family! They're so supportive and only want her to be happy. Can't believe they didn't comp SOME part of the excess charges considering what she went through the first time and the fact that she came back. At least she'll feel beautiful on her wedding day even if they have to serve hot dog salads at the reception.
This the sweetest, most absolutely supportive family ever
How are there no dresses in her size? She's plus size but not so big that there shouldn't be anything in her size. That seems insane to me.
Both of these brides are lovely and I hope they have many happy, joyful years ahead of them.
This is definitely one of the most supporting families I’ve seen since I’ve started binge watching the show
That first dress is perfect why would you NEED to match the veil to it 🤷as long as she is happy at the end of the day it's her day ❤️
I agree the first dress was beautiful and looked perfect on her
She could have had the 1st dress & the veil... it wouldn't have been so expensive
@@debjanikundu8576 I know. Veils aren't that expensive to buy
What lovely lovely parents she has !!! She looks beautiful ❤️
The second couple gave me goose bumps. So sweet.
This family is so loving. These parents are so loving.
I feel the shop should have compensated the extra cost because it's their fault she couldn't get the one she wanted in her size
But it's not their fault, it's the designer's. The shop has no real control on what the designers choose to sell, or what not to sell.
@@lilyofthevalley7573 No, it is their fault for not knowing what size range a stock model is available in, and if there is any increased cost for that particular size. They sold her a dress that didn't exist because they weren't willing to contact the designer and confirm that what they were selling was actually available.
@@Briael I don't think you comprehend how many stock dresses they have
@@lilyofthevalley7573 I'm pretty sure they're the same as every other bridal store. They will stock 3-5 sizes of each design and then an entire range of sizes for the designs that are priced at the low-median price point. It's basic stocking principles.
Unless you are buying a dress from the rack or on markdown, everything is ordered, so not stocked.
There's a difference between the count of stock per design and the overall stock holding.
@@Briael yes, but times that by 100 or even 300 different dresses. They have alot of dresses and designers, who all have different sizes. Sometimes it gets tough keeping track of every size, that and designers can cut sizes at any given moment. So they mightve had a certain size at one point, but since they didn't sell enough the designers could decide not to make it anymore.
That is terrible that manufacturers of these dresses don't include larger sizes!
it's expensive to make dresses that aren't going to be bought by many people
Agree, and some types of dresses do not look good in different sizes. The designer would not like to put his or her name on a dress that will not look good on a plus size bride. It is sad, but a real dilemma.
@@MsJubjubbird But lots of people are this woman's size! It's not like she's some extreme case.
@@angrydonutface7420 not as much in the demographic they are selling to. Young women who are into fashion and from the middle and upper middle classes. The same demographic that are the target market for fashionable diets and "wellness" programs
@@MsJubjubbird You evidently don't understand how the bridal industry works. They get in a range of sizes for stock dresses to be tried on. That's why you see so many dresses clipped during the appointment. Then, the required size is ordered for the individual bride. No store can afford to buy all sizes for all stock. That's just not practical (store space) or financially viable. All designer ranges come with a stock sheet that details what sizes are available, how much they cost and the lead time for order completion. If they failed to check it before showing the dress, then they certainly failed to check it when they made the sale.
She's beautiful and her parents are just so wonderful.
Such a travesty to upcharge such a significant amount, to only make a bride feel even more uncomfortable with themselves… Shame on the greedy designers.
The store should have all sizes of dresses....
I think that the bigger chain bridal stores can do that. However, the issue is that it costs more to order sample plus sized gowns.
So for smaller bridal stores they simply cannot afford to get in plus size samples or they're very few.
The manufacturer should make them so the store can carry them.
I own a bridal store unfortunately that is true issue a small business faces. I carry Sydney & Michelle exclusive curvy Bridel line to offer more sizes for our curvy brides as I am curvy lady myself. Unfortunately not every bridal store can buy samples in 4 different sizes for one dress as it can cost 3000 -10000 or more dollars right there. Most small business can't swing it so they go based on avg sizes for brides with multiple different dresses in that sizes range.
Can't agree more
Getting a plus size dress was so difficult that I ended up having a friend who is a seamstress just make me one. Had I known about the shop in Essex, I would have flown there. Plus size women aren't a small demographic and regardless of what you think of our weight, we deserve to love our dress as much as any other girl. The experiences I had at bridal shops were horrific, humiliating and down right discriminatory.
I am so unimpressed, I would not shop there on principle. And as that means nothing, I would say I would warn other people not to shop there either. Just so many bad judgements. Bad service - and those responsible are PLEASED with themselves!!!
The family could have got so much more going to a seamstress. For far less.
If American girls can, I would at least go to the large size shop on UK, where they are treated kindly, professionally...
WHAT PROFESSIONAL DOESN'T CHECK DRESS SIZE AND COSTS OF CHANGES, BEFORE SUGGESTING IT. $1600 extra!
That has probably cost them 1600 large size brides.
Awwww dad. You’re so,sweet. What a loving and supportive family.
Never go to a place that charges you MORE based on your size… please patronized a place that caters to YOU, your style and your size. Compromise is never suppose to be an option…
It makes sense to charge extra
1. More fabric
2. They have to change the bead pattern bc it would look empty if they dont
Oh you're speaking truth. Nothing against these upscale bridal shops. They cater to these starry-eyed brides that equate spending top dollar for a dress they'll only wear 1 time as the only way to go. I beg to differ. I've seen some great looking dresses at half the prices of some of the ones featured on this show at some lesser known boutiques. But hey it's their money.
It’s a shame that designers don’t make the effort to create pretty dresses for plus size brides. They deserve to look beautiful too
IKR?
Yes to that.
I'm so happy that she was able to find a dress. As for the up charge to increase the size, do they decrease the cost for smaller sizes?
According to my knowledge, usually yes. Downsizing is also expensive.
She may be the cutest bride I've ever seen and her parents are absolute sweethearts, God bless ♥
Aw her dad is adorable, so sweet.