Back when warzone dropped, I used fmj for quite a while thinking that it has higher damage. And this kind of mind set literally gives me the feeling that I am downning people way faster and with less bullets. Guess our brain is powerful enough to fool ourselves.
Thought this was common knowledge by now, but glad you're setting the record straight. Plus its interesting to know how many m4 shots it takes to kill someone
Anthony DeLuca actually, this is a common misconception by some players every year, especially this year when there are so many new players coming into CoD, though it’s rare to find ppl saying it increases damage
I’m a new player to cod, I play battlefield religiously and I didn’t realize FMJ only increases through wallbang and equipments. Thought it increases gun damage in general
@@mahspce It literally says it on the perk description that it only increases damage against equipment and vehicles but people not too familiar with the CoD franchise only look at the bars which are often inaccurate.
That's my thought after a game i just had downing guys in a second floor window and trying to wallbang for finish but couldn't because i didnt have FMJ
I would say: if you're using a LMG, then FMJ is a great choice. When you down someone at a window, then shooting at them through the wall is a great way to finish them.
It's also handy with an SMG when inside buildings. Enemies try to use internal doorways to hide when hit/or to ambush, the FMJ can make the difference in that sort of fight.
Thanks for the effort in making this video! I'd be interested in seeing a comparison on what FMJ does to different vehicles(damage to driver/vehicle destruction).
No one pays attention in my English poem studies, they just open another tab on RUclips and mute themselves on teams. I mean its pretty boring, I just ask for answers later.
@Kenny J You are right, if it fits your play style you should use. I try to use the moments that the enemy takes cover to push up or at least change positions, that way I can try to make a flank or trow their aim off. I only play Warzone BTW, gg
First off, I wish it would penetrate riot shields. Second off, this is great for fighting campers, forces them out of certain corners and you can finish off enemies through the wall.
That would be stupid. I get where you’re coming from because riot shields are really annoying if you want a good counter to shields take a Semtex or a thermite
I really liked this video. I would love to see you do this more often with controversial or less than obvious mechanics that may be gun or environment-specific.
Think the reason why people think it increases base damage is because it did in mw2 as well as 3 if I remember correctly. Every single cod since then has changed it to just penetration through objects though
You know those pieces bark falling off that tree are going to try to single themselves out and make all about them saying bark lives matter. Obviously implying that the rest doesn't matter.
@@FrederickHohenzollern I think it would be quite hard to stream snipe on warzone surely? He said it took them loads of attempts to get in the same game to make this video
Would you be willing to test the Frangible - Disabling perk in Warzone? It's a neat perk that causes a mild visual stun-grenade-like visual effect on your target, and disables sprinting when being shot, but it's extremely overlooked by the community, and is impossible to test without a friend on the enemy team like this. :(
Yeahhhhh, I feel like it’s overlooked because it sucks, since you have to shoot someone in the legs for it to take affect. And ideally you’d never be shooting people in the legs. Only time it might be slightly useful is when hip firing a shotgun at someone running away from you.
It’s actually really refreshing to see a CoD RUclipsr who’s actually attentive to the content that they put out as opposed to so many of those who just put out a 15 minute video every day and put in as little effort as possible, you sir have earned a sub.
So you’ve got two options assuming they have no idea you’re there A. You get the surprise attack jump in the building and jump or drop shot or just straight away go for the kill (pretty high % chance of winning) Or B. Use FMJ!!!!!! And spray through the brick wall alerting the enemy who didn’t know you were there before and more than likely not pickup the kill if the enemy has more than half a brain ......
Brandon Yi If they’re hiding in a small area FMJ can help you win the fight without even giving the other person a chance. It’s cool to be a asshole nowadays so I doubt you’ve given it a chance.
There is cover eeeeeverywhere. How many teams are just Rambo'ing every match? I guess it they are just seating and waiting to do ambushes then they already have tactical adavantage FMJ isn't needed.
I remember when people insisted that FMJ increases damage in Modern Warfare 2. It launched Drift0r's career because he had to prove FMJ doesn't increase damage. FMJ has never increased the damage of the gun, only reduces penalties to damage through cover or killstreak armor.
Not to mention that small caliber FMJ bullets usually have less stopping power, because they just pierce through soft tissue, so a lot of energy is wasted. Again, I'm not talking about .50 BMG which blows your bones into shrapnel to make soup from your organs.
Right? The fact that the density of the material in a tree from its edges to its center, also has a different effect on penetrations, is mind-blowing level of complexity compared to what games used to be. I've always thought about that and often wondered how games aren't just crashing left and right due to the shear complexity involved.
Video games have truly evolved, while I have never experienced the birth of games or the atari, I can see how it is truly mind blowing how even in just 2-3 decades technology advances so much.
I wish they had an "expert mode" that just showed raw numbers when looking at stats so we don't have to do all these weird experiments to figure it out.
@@StriderNS2 seeing that one is a lapua round thats built for penetrating concrete and the other is a .50 cal the snipers could pass through the tree pretty easy however trajectory of the bullet is a different story. Thats also without FMJ.
To be clear, i was referring to the detail where the thicker part of the tree (center) would require more shots for a kill. I don't know jack about actual real life bullet penetration. Just impressed the devs bothered to make sure shooting the center and corner of the trees with FMJ would give you different but logical results :)
@@johnstock3282 I clearly said "mostly dead" as in there were some green leaves, but parts of the tree were dead, which means there was definitely water in the trunk. ONE 7.62x39 round went through THREE trunks. Also, they're rated to penetrate bullet proof vests. GTFO bc you clearly have not shot as many different weapons through as many types of materials as I have. I've also shot a 22 magnum through 0.3 inch steel plate, so there's no basis to your claim that a high powered round can't go through a live hardwood tree.
My thoughts exacly. Peak, gets shot, hide, still gets shot, panic, trys to run. It's a good twist to get people. It would also cancel their healing/using shields
Frangible Disabling really needs some testing done in Warzone, it's impossible to see how effective it is without getting a friend on the enemy team like this. :(
Yeah that occurred to me aswell. You might be able to finish an enemy that’s low health through the tree, or just interrupt their healing which is useful too. Still quite situational of course. Maybe just worth getting FMJ for the sniper in your loadout if you happen to know that final circles are in a wooded area.
I use it on the sniper. I've gotten so many picks on people in those attics with a window on each side. Theres no cover up in those attics and you can just span through the wall. If you knock someone it's easy to thirst them through the wall too.
I actually searched does fmj on hdr hits through tree cause I was really done people hiding behind trees when I downed them and this video happened. Thanks for good info my dude. I will use fmj on my hdr cause I've one spare attachment slot on my hdr.
I eventually started running FMJ on my HDR since I didn't have focus/presence of mind unlocked and really started to like it. I used it to finish people I would down in buildings/houses, down one in the attic of house but don't want to push? Finish the kill with a wallbang from the FMJ HDR.
"don't trust the bars" . . .but everything is so neatly explained about each attachment except for EXACT % of certain things. The only unclear thing about FMJ ever was about the armor pen
@@Mitchtits I have a loadout specialized in taking down vehicles and killstreaks. PKM with FMJ, rockets, and thermite. Crazy how fast I can take down a chopper gunner too.
@@Rpoc179 same. Pkm with mono suppressor, 200 round, fmj, stock and reflex with RPG's. Even standard assault rifles can take out UAV's with 3 shots with fmj but yeah it's the only class I use fmj on.
I find FMJ really helpful, especially when enemies are running away to cover. Jack mentions it is more situational but I actually found myself in a lot of those wall banging situations in a lot of fights. There are definitely better perks but fmj is very useful.
I'm not an amazing player by any means but I think you could've looked at the FMJ in a slightly different way here Jack. Especially in a tactical tight like warzone tends to be, you should look at the tactical advantages of FMJ. A person getting hit at all behind cover is almost always going to move/panic, meaning that while the damage isn't much, you flush out your target. Also, if you're looking for an enemy you know is in a building, then the penetration of FMJ, especially brick, could help you find them or clear corners by testing wall pen. Just some thoughts!
I love hardcore as well, however I think warzone is perfect. It gives you enough time to react to getting blindsided, whereas if it were hardcore you would die within 3 shots. I think there should definitely be hardcore groundwar though
*Give the RAM-7 a try!* Jack, huge fan of your channel. I love your attitude, yet when it comes to competition you own. I know you always love to improve your gameplay, therefore, I suggest you try the RAM-7. I never use the M4 since I discovered the RAM-7. I can challenge and win against snipers. It’s great all-around: close, Medium, and yes.. long range. I’ll list my setup below. Monolithic Suppressor Commando Foregrip 50 Round Mag Stippled Grip Tape FSS Ranger Barrel Personally, the iron sights are great on this weapon as you have a green night bar to help you track your enemies. Just trying to return the favor of the great content and tips you’ve provided me over the years.
One thing I noticed with FMJ is that it seems to do more damage THROUGH an enemy player to another BEHIND the first. So basically the first player doesn’t become a bullet sponge and you can easily down the unfortunate squad that lines up in a door, stairwell or hallway. Haven’t tested this but I’ve experienced it many times.
If FMJ goes through even brick wall, wouldn’t that make it extremely useful, especially on LMG’s? If someone is camping behind a wall you can just spray that wall to down him. Or when you shoot someone through a window you can finish that guy off by shooting through the wall.
I think your really underestimating the situational advantages. I use fmj on preety much everything. There’s a bunch of ways I’ve found it helpful... 1. If I’m engaging in a gun fight and I shoot someone who manages to get behind cover or around a corner before I can land more than a quarter magazine, I’m in the habit of continuing to track and shoot as they round the corner or cover. And I often score a knock down with those final few bullets. 2. If I’m rushing a group of enemies in a tight space or around a corner or doorway, I’ll often be presented with opportunities to rip through multiple people with the same bullets.. 3. Most campers are hiding in corners of buildings behind a wall like the brick one you tested... using UAV or heartbeat I often unload clips into corners and drop em. 4. Vehicles: with the exception of the truck the vehicles can be destroyed with one entire 50 round assault rifle clip with FMJ, I can usually take a vehicle out by myself or only have to dodge and reload once.. 5. Walls that can be penetrated with normal bullets as well as FMJ. Like doors. See a noticeable difference in normal to FMJ damage at range. You only tested close quarters. I’m sure there’s more that I can’t think of right now. But there’s a few to consider. And I should clarify that most of the advantages I’m talking are for warzone
*_@jackfrags, you forgot to mention "target penetration" (shooting 2 or more players at once, works bananas! in multiplayer/CQB), good video nonetheless_* *_When players line up one behind another you can shoot all of them with the same bullet and therefore improving your TTK an all targets_*
@@mitchellfranzel7826 I agree. Sometimes CoD just feels more like Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers playing airsoft simulator. Super fun game, but doesn't convey how lethal firearms really are. Six head shots? That's probably why I'm good in hardcore, but complete trash in normal modes. I miss realism ground war.
FMJ is the worst attachment for warzone.. It tricks you into thinking you've hit someone directly but you're actually hitting them through a piece of cover and not doing nearly the amount of base DMG directly. So when trading it can be devestating.
Alien Yogurt Pot thats like arguing dont shoot enemies till they are in the open cause they might switch armor plates and you never know how many plates they have. The better rule is to run them out of plates. That is ofc unless ur trying to remain stealthy.
great video! many scenarios showcased and accurate description of results. this is the kind of cod videos i like to watch. also, big thanks to Andrew for being the test subject.
Shout out to Andrew for dying multiple times in the name of science.
Ha "like my mom at a frat party" lmfao smh love it
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not Sure wtf lol
Hero
Andrew is the real hero
LOL these comments asking "does it penetrate riot shields".
Nothing penetrates the riot shield.
(Casually blocks airstrike)
You can block fucking *CRUISE MISSILES* upon direct impact with a riot shield.
@@coldhotpocket8226 lol ive done that so many times with the riot sheild lol
**shoots at feet**
I’m sure they’ll nerf those next, eventually we will just be running around with fists punching each other.
TheLtGo *crouches*
X: What do you do for a living?
Andrew: What is living?
Underated
☹
-Sean Bean
HAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAAHAHAHA
I don't know who this Andrew guy is but he sure is being abused
"FBI OPEN UP"
True
montana cady 🤣🤣
what about the tree?! he turned it to swiss cheese!
lol
Don't ask *who* Andrew is
Ask *how* Andrew is
I'll do you one better; *why* Andrew is.
I don't know :( I do know WHEN Andrew is though
probably not well since he took like 30 rounds to the chest
@@sam8404 to be or not to be oooorrrrrrr
*Is you is or is you isn't*
I’m fine, thx for asking
No Andrews were harmed in the making of this film.
Correction:No Trees or Walls were harmed in the making of this film
@JMAD 4546B can i say it?. Ok ummm uhh aight aight aight *clears throat* r/wooosh
"Not all trees are created equal" this is a sentence to live by Jack
Jack got poetic there
"Not all trees are created equal" JackFrags 2020
Some trees are more equal than others, you know
Everyone asks: *who is Andrew?*
But no one asks: *how is Andrew?*
No one also really asks: why is Andrew?
Zestea guardians of the galaxy
@@vilnv no one asks "where is Andrew"
But no one asks: What is Andrew?*
> how is Andrew?
Not good.. dude's full of gunshot wounds :(
Plot twist: Jack is trying to trick us so he could use FMJ to kill us all
Ding ding ding!!! Exactly
😂😂
that’s exactly what i was thinking
img_001 same
Lol
People: FMJ increases damage!
Jack: ...This is for the record. History is written by the victor. History is filled with liars.
Lol, i just played that mission in remastered too
Truth... Is just a matter of perspective
@@onejediboi Price.. Price?
Dragonfury3000 dude are you dumb? He literally just showed that it doesn’t make a difference at all.
hahah lol
Back when warzone dropped, I used fmj for quite a while thinking that it has higher damage. And this kind of mind set literally gives me the feeling that I am downning people way faster and with less bullets. Guess our brain is powerful enough to fool ourselves.
Welcome to the Placebo Gang
That's called placebo effect. And yes it kinda works that way too.
Placebo effect lol weird part is it works too 😅
My brain was powerful enough to read the perk's description
Space Tester same I read it on ghosts and stopped using it lol
I need that Andrew for leveling up my guns, where do I find him?
Do u know how they are in the same lobbies as enemy
@@agentx7364 they keep matching
@@agentx7364 issa joke
We need an Andrew Perk
"So how was your date last night?" 9:16
Infinity lmao
*NO PENETRATION WHATSOEVER*
*ABSOLUTE ZERO*
Wow
rofl
Thought this was common knowledge by now, but glad you're setting the record straight. Plus its interesting to know how many m4 shots it takes to kill someone
Did you know?
Anthony DeLuca actually, this is a common misconception by some players every year, especially this year when there are so many new players coming into CoD, though it’s rare to find ppl saying it increases damage
I’m a new player to cod, I play battlefield religiously and I didn’t realize FMJ only increases through wallbang and equipments. Thought it increases gun damage in general
@@mahspce It literally says it on the perk description that it only increases damage against equipment and vehicles but people not too familiar with the CoD franchise only look at the bars which are often inaccurate.
@@NixonMayHaveBeenOnToSomething Yes it was. Watch the whole video.
FMJ on a sniper is clearly useful. The amount of times someone gets revived behind a tree is reason enough
But it takes too many shots for a bolt action gun
No ! The extra that gives u less recoil when some1 shoots you is way way better
That's my thought after a game i just had downing guys in a second floor window and trying to wallbang for finish but couldn't because i didnt have FMJ
@Jannes Koppens who needs focus its do or die and if you get them before they see you then you dont need focus
@@TM-dw5zg Does the velocity of the bullet matter when penetrating a thing? or is it not diffrence
Personally wall penetration is the best and worst feature
Well it's the general principle of penetration if you know what I mean.
@@tumu_bandit I'm missing a meme here
Glory hole 😏
If someone trying to penetrate u just crouch/prone
@@biggycheese4443 well i use the ak-47 so ill just shoot back and do a no russian on them
Conclusion: Andrew is a true friend for doing all that!
I know that you love to test things, so do Power Stopping Rounds increase the damage through walls/trees with FMJ on? You didn't test that :)
I was thinking about the same thing, quite interested to know the answer
Or rocks.
Team in a house: They're gonna have to come to us
Team with LMGs and FMJ equipped: What house?
@Andy Munoz 😄
@@tori9365 😄
@@ToatsMcGoats534 😄
@@hugle9661 😄
I know what I'll be using in hackney yard
I would say: if you're using a LMG, then FMJ is a great choice.
When you down someone at a window, then shooting at them through the wall is a great way to finish them.
Ok
pkm+fmj+snapshot grenades+restock perk make for some fun wallbanging times
It's also handy with an SMG when inside buildings. Enemies try to use internal doorways to hide when hit/or to ambush, the FMJ can make the difference in that sort of fight.
I was wondering about LMGs! Do you normally have enough bullets that it's no problem to use extra like that? Are you able to shoot through any trees?
PKM with FJM is honestly really frekin good even if just to find where people are
Thanks for the effort in making this video! I'd be interested in seeing a comparison on what FMJ does to different vehicles(damage to driver/vehicle destruction).
This is actually less boring than the online class during lockdown.
Maui Shark ...... duh
Word!
No one pays attention in my English poem studies, they just open another tab on RUclips and mute themselves on teams. I mean its pretty boring, I just ask for answers later.
You don't saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?
Man, those boomers are so desperate they used the technology they swore to destroy just because they want to bother us with their online class.
I've been using FMJ for a while thinking it improves damage. Thank you for this video.
Lol
Same!
I just changed it today to FMJ thinking it does more damage and now see this 🙄
@Kenny J Yeah, I kinda wished he had tested with SUVs in Warzone, but that still wouldn't make the perk worth it
@Kenny J You are right, if it fits your play style you should use. I try to use the moments that the enemy takes cover to push up or at least change positions, that way I can try to make a flank or trow their aim off. I only play Warzone BTW, gg
I like how many times you used the word “penetration”
Me: Andrew what about your K.D?
Andrew: what's a K.D
Andrew only knows .D
Kevin Durant
Idk why. But think of that “we’re the millers” meme. “You guys have a kd???
kill/death i think
@@albiecharlie9411 lol
9:26 ‘Same tree, same Andrew’ had me laughing
you can hear him giggle after jack says that :)
Manlymanly that made my day better :)
12:31 skip here to just see Jack’s conclusions about FMJ
Jackson Van Eekeren thank you 😂
Don’t do this. He needs view time.
Legend
you're a Hero sir and a God sent!
Thank youuuu
"Can we penetrate this tree?"
Quote of the Day
TheKorvorkian yes we can.
If you’re brave enough
@@DiscipleofChrist_ i did it yesterday. im a bit sore though :(
TheKorvorkian tree huggers fucking trees again lol
* getting wood achievement unlocked *
So the main takeaway from this is: Thicccness affects penetration
Too many c's = will not penetrate.
Death Sandwich correct
I know they talking about FMJ, but from my experience you just need longer barrel for all that thicccness.
@@dotmanmide still helpful to have a full metal jacket
@@dotmanmide 😂😂😂💯👌🏾
CoD veterans: **facepalm**
FMJ was always only for dem wallbangs :)
Yeah. I thought it was common knowledge that fmj only increases penetration
People just don't know how to read the description.
First off, I wish it would penetrate riot shields. Second off, this is great for fighting campers, forces them out of certain corners and you can finish off enemies through the wall.
i haven't played since last season, do riot shields and trophy systems still block cruise missiles?
@@xMaverickFPS Riot yes, trophy no
Jose Cervantes Defeats the purpose of a riot shield , don’t you think ?
That would be stupid. I get where you’re coming from because riot shields are really annoying if you want a good counter to shields take a Semtex or a thermite
Jose Cervantes Im def gonna make a fmj class for people camping behind trees and snipping
I really liked this video. I would love to see you do this more often with controversial or less than obvious mechanics that may be gun or environment-specific.
How is this "less obvious mechanics" this makes complete logical sense and should be very simple to understand.
OminousPineapple well it wasn’t obvious enough...which is why they made a video
"Not all trees are created equal" -Jack 2020
"Same tree, Same Andrew."
Different guns
@Andy Munoz different tree same andrew
different game, same andrew
@@dr.martinlroberts1908 different andrew same andrew
How do some people still not know how fmj works. It’s literally been in almost all the cods and how do do they still don’t get it
maybe cause lots of people haven't played the previous CODs but play this since its free.
I actually thought they classed the armor as equipment so I thought FMJ would help break armor faster then without.
Most people has something against reading. They see damage increase and they go with it, like sheep.
Think the reason why people think it increases base damage is because it did in mw2 as well as 3 if I remember correctly. Every single cod since then has changed it to just penetration through objects though
kinneylee this is exactly why. It was an increase in damage in prior CODs, sadly just penetration now.
Jack: “Not all trees are created equal”
MLK : :(
Tree lives matter!
Not in the least bit funny.
You know those pieces bark falling off that tree are going to try to single themselves out and make all about them saying bark lives matter. Obviously implying that the rest doesn't matter.
StormySky48
This is genius.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Thank you my good sir for acknowledging my inner genius. Good day to you sir 🧐 lol
Any reason you are not doing more Warzone live streams, Jack? I really enjoy those and they seemed to be very well received.
My bet would be server issues
And hackers
Maybe because of streamsnipers
@@FrederickHohenzollern I think it would be quite hard to stream snipe on warzone surely?
He said it took them loads of attempts to get in the same game to make this video
AG but with tens of streamsnipers, surely someone would succeed
Would you be willing to test the Frangible - Disabling perk in Warzone? It's a neat perk that causes a mild visual stun-grenade-like visual effect on your target, and disables sprinting when being shot, but it's extremely overlooked by the community, and is impossible to test without a friend on the enemy team like this. :(
It's not that good.
Already been done by ExclusiveAce, as well as all the perks 👍
Yeahhhhh, I feel like it’s overlooked because it sucks, since you have to shoot someone in the legs for it to take affect. And ideally you’d never be shooting people in the legs. Only time it might be slightly useful is when hip firing a shotgun at someone running away from you.
Guys if you shoot someone running from the zone you can ruin their day with it because they can’t run hahaha
@@wumpygaming you are evil...
It’s actually really refreshing to see a CoD RUclipsr who’s actually attentive to the content that they put out as opposed to so many of those who just put out a 15 minute video every day and put in as little effort as possible, you sir have earned a sub.
The amount of times I've had a heartbeat sensor and there's someone 1metre away behind a brick wall🤔
IF ONLY YOU HAD FMJ
So you’ve got two options assuming they have no idea you’re there
A. You get the surprise attack jump in the building and jump or drop shot or just straight away go for the kill (pretty high % chance of winning)
Or
B. Use FMJ!!!!!! And spray through the brick wall alerting the enemy who didn’t know you were there before and more than likely not pickup the kill if the enemy has more than half a brain
......
Brandon Yi If they’re hiding in a small area FMJ can help you win the fight without even giving the other person a chance. It’s cool to be a asshole nowadays so I doubt you’ve given it a chance.
There is cover eeeeeverywhere. How many teams are just Rambo'ing every match? I guess it they are just seating and waiting to do ambushes then they already have tactical adavantage FMJ isn't needed.
jjmica121 FMJ isn’t needed it helps take down vehicles and can shoot people through walls that sounds good to me.
hackers be like "thank you for your service Jack!"
Nah they already know. Got beaten by the China squad other day. Legit 1tap headshot through a concrete bag :D
@@casperolesen9724 I feel u. imagine playing on asia server...
@@windrimondo Olympics with doping allowed?
I remember when people insisted that FMJ increases damage in Modern Warfare 2. It launched Drift0r's career because he had to prove FMJ doesn't increase damage.
FMJ has never increased the damage of the gun, only reduces penalties to damage through cover or killstreak armor.
Not to mention that small caliber FMJ bullets usually have less stopping power, because they just pierce through soft tissue, so a lot of energy is wasted. Again, I'm not talking about .50 BMG which blows your bones into shrapnel to make soup from your organs.
Any cod vet knows that fmj doesn't mean higher weapon damage. It just basically allows you to wall bang people better and kill vehicles faster.
I mean you could just read the description
not really true. with modern warfare 2 it actually gives you more damage. so i dont know what you mean with "cod vet" but i am sure you aint one.
@@BlackEasterEgg you're thinking of stopping power, the one shot sniper with fmj and acog in mw2 was an exploit.
@@don945646 exploit or not. it did.
@@BlackEasterEgg I really think that your getting it mixed up with stopping power
Most people during quarantine: get lonely and fat, miss human contact.
Jack during quarantine: attempts to penetrate trees.
I need to modify every single one of my loadouts and setups after watching this video 😭 thank you!!!
Deadass 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
kenrick wilson it be like “yo i swear i just killed hit faster cus of fmj”
Marvin now I just feel dumb 😂😂
@@kennycappo4616 cause those guns are ass. Use the fal. 4 shots to down a player
Great testing, Jack.
The outcome was to be expected but we got solid testing.
I hope you spent your buddy a beer after shooting him so often ;-)
Everyone here: FMJ or no FMJ
Me: Truly in awe of how advanced video games have gotten in retrospect to the first games I played on the Atari
Right? The fact that the density of the material in a tree from its edges to its center, also has a different effect on penetrations, is mind-blowing level of complexity compared to what games used to be. I've always thought about that and often wondered how games aren't just crashing left and right due to the shear complexity involved.
Video games have truly evolved, while I have never experienced the birth of games or the atari, I can see how it is truly mind blowing how even in just 2-3 decades technology advances so much.
I would love to see more side by side comparisons with more attachments! Thank you for the great testing!
I wish they had an "expert mode" that just showed raw numbers when looking at stats so we don't have to do all these weird experiments to figure it out.
Could have been done in normal warzone these testings. He could have shown the damage one bullet does. And show what difference does it make
13:22 So that Tier 90 battle bass Mara skin has better damage resistance then, alright, good to hear
👍😎
SMH pay2win games
Nathaniel didnt get the joke lol
@@ImSteveSwish he is saying that mara is thicc.
- Did you score last night?
- Nuthin' no penetration
Anyone else impressed with the tree's physics? Didn't think they'd pay much attention to that sort of detail O.o
I'd be impressed if we got to see tree vs concrete roadblock and saw a noticeable difference there.
@@StriderNS2 seeing that one is a lapua round thats built for penetrating concrete and the other is a .50 cal the snipers could pass through the tree pretty easy however trajectory of the bullet is a different story. Thats also without FMJ.
To be clear, i was referring to the detail where the thicker part of the tree (center) would require more shots for a kill. I don't know jack about actual real life bullet penetration. Just impressed the devs bothered to make sure shooting the center and corner of the trees with FMJ would give you different but logical results :)
@@StriderNS2 Not true, I have an SKS that went through 3 consecutive tree trunks roughly the same size (trees were mostly dead trees)
@@johnstock3282 I clearly said "mostly dead" as in there were some green leaves, but parts of the tree were dead, which means there was definitely water in the trunk. ONE 7.62x39 round went through THREE trunks. Also, they're rated to penetrate bullet proof vests. GTFO bc you clearly have not shot as many different weapons through as many types of materials as I have. I've also shot a 22 magnum through 0.3 inch steel plate, so there's no basis to your claim that a high powered round can't go through a live hardwood tree.
I edited my comment so nobody will know why I got so many likes.
For real.
Literally the worst place to put it
shitty mobile youtube bro
its one move against the community after another with them
Thank you shit is stupid
Who would dislike this video?? Good job explaining and backing it all up with real/digital world actions.
even tho it doesn’t do a whole lotta damage. It would still scare them into moving out of cover and open up more shots.
My thoughts exacly. Peak, gets shot, hide, still gets shot, panic, trys to run. It's a good twist to get people. It would also cancel their healing/using shields
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Yep. Is pretty useful. Would help if you tag them too and your whole team can kill them when they leave cover.
This would be very good for endgame in forest areas, can scare people into leaving cover
The PineApple that. Or put and air strike on them and shoot em while they scatter 🤠
9:30 now this makes no sense that's a deciduous tree and by the looks of it a hard wood the other was Coniferous and a softwood
If you actually play the game you will see it makes no difference.
EDIT; The only thing the game has into account is thickness and material
Nobody cares what type of wood it is
@@James-ng6nl I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to tell me that you don't care and it has no effect on you.
r/theydidthemath
@@James-ng6nl not all cod players are uneducated. sorry
Dude, i've been wondering about this forever! Good stuff, Keep'em coming😊👌👌👌💕
Great vid!!
so FMJ is perfect perk for all cheaters with see-through-wall on.
ozy but it helps ;)
It doesn't change much, really
Thank you for this youve literally changed up a couple of my loadouts bc of this
And still time to kill in this game is faster than any other shooter ever .. its crazy
@@demonhandz821 certainly not in warzone
So glad you made this video, I was one of the folks that thought FMJ meant it had more damage. Won't ever equip it again. TY
Hey Jack... maybe the next "straighten the record" should be on Fragiable Perk. Just saying. Love your content.
Frangible Disabling really needs some testing done in Warzone, it's impossible to see how effective it is without getting a friend on the enemy team like this. :(
The knowledge has been secured in the vault of RUclips, waiting for its relevance to die out so it can pop up in everyones recommended
I feel like FMJ might actually be super useful because people tend to hide behind trees to heal so they might already be low
was wer yeah, but as a replacement for FL or other actual attachments? Nah
Yeah that occurred to me aswell. You might be able to finish an enemy that’s low health through the tree, or just interrupt their healing which is useful too.
Still quite situational of course. Maybe just worth getting FMJ for the sniper in your loadout if you happen to know that final circles are in a wooded area.
not worth an attachment slot for that
JM nobody’s telling you to use it. We’re just speculating on what the benefits would be
I use it on the sniper. I've gotten so many picks on people in those attics with a window on each side. Theres no cover up in those attics and you can just span through the wall. If you knock someone it's easy to thirst them through the wall too.
I actually searched does fmj on hdr hits through tree cause I was really done people hiding behind trees when I downed them and this video happened. Thanks for good info my dude. I will use fmj on my hdr cause I've one spare attachment slot on my hdr.
Use the focus perk, its one of the few weapons its worth using a perk on and its very good for sniping.
For Controller players who dont have a scuf i would rather use fmj on my hdr
@EN3ERP4O i was serious lol i have got a normal one
Was wondering about this recently as I kept using FMJ but started having my doubts...thanks!
I appreciate how long this all probably took 👏🏽
Literally what I’ve been telling my friends since release
Sarthak Bhardwaj since like Bo2
ever use fmj to kill someone through a tree while using it as cover? i have lol all the time
Since mw2
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain in detail how this works. Its a big help
cant believe ppl still dont know this, this has been the same since mw2 lmao
Since cod 4 as well
I’m a new player, didn’t know anything regarding COD like a month ago lol
Did u think that maybe ppl don’t know because they’re new to CoD?
@@gungus7037 Unless they're illiterate, they don't have an excuse because the game literally tells you what fmj does.
THESTFUPRODUCTION but it increases the bar which people will obviously pay more attention to
I eventually started running FMJ on my HDR since I didn't have focus/presence of mind unlocked and really started to like it. I used it to finish people I would down in buildings/houses, down one in the attic of house but don't want to push? Finish the kill with a wallbang from the FMJ HDR.
FMJ on my LMG and floorbang folks in attics for lolz
Thanks for this, been wasting FMJ on all of my loadouts, that's definitely going to change.
He listened lets go
"don't trust the bars" . . .but everything is so neatly explained about each attachment except for EXACT % of certain things. The only unclear thing about FMJ ever was about the armor pen
So pretty much FMJ is only really useful in a high capacity high caliber LMG.
Yes. I have a 200 round pkm with fmj for ruining vtols
@@Mitchtits I have a loadout specialized in taking down vehicles and killstreaks. PKM with FMJ, rockets, and thermite. Crazy how fast I can take down a chopper gunner too.
Oh, so you're that guy who never tried to take down killstreaks, huh?
@@ridhosamudro2199 yeah, if he only plays Warzone that would be the case...
@@Rpoc179 same. Pkm with mono suppressor, 200 round, fmj, stock and reflex with RPG's. Even standard assault rifles can take out UAV's with 3 shots with fmj but yeah it's the only class I use fmj on.
Lol and smh to people who have those fmj thoughts. I remember those fmj talks during mw2
Co4 also
Although I didn’t need the first part ( the damage) I didn’t know that fmj could go through a brick wall so this video was quite useful regardless
Andrew low key reverse boosting for bot lobby’s
I find FMJ really helpful, especially when enemies are running away to cover. Jack mentions it is more situational but I actually found myself in a lot of those wall banging situations in a lot of fights. There are definitely better perks but fmj is very useful.
I really like it on SMGs because they can't shoot through shit without it and usually don't need -recoil attachments.
I'm not an amazing player by any means but I think you could've looked at the FMJ in a slightly different way here Jack. Especially in a tactical tight like warzone tends to be, you should look at the tactical advantages of FMJ. A person getting hit at all behind cover is almost always going to move/panic, meaning that while the damage isn't much, you flush out your target. Also, if you're looking for an enemy you know is in a building, then the penetration of FMJ, especially brick, could help you find them or clear corners by testing wall pen. Just some thoughts!
This is why i've always loved Hardcore mode, and wish they would make this an option in Warzone!
I love hardcore as well, however I think warzone is perfect. It gives you enough time to react to getting blindsided, whereas if it were hardcore you would die within 3 shots. I think there should definitely be hardcore groundwar though
*Give the RAM-7 a try!*
Jack, huge fan of your channel. I love your attitude, yet when it comes to competition you own. I know you always love to improve your gameplay, therefore, I suggest you try the RAM-7. I never use the M4 since I discovered the RAM-7. I can challenge and win against snipers. It’s great all-around: close, Medium, and yes.. long range. I’ll list my setup below.
Monolithic Suppressor
Commando Foregrip
50 Round Mag
Stippled Grip Tape
FSS Ranger Barrel
Personally, the iron sights are great on this weapon as you have a green night bar to help you track your enemies. Just trying to return the favor of the great content and tips you’ve provided me over the years.
the barrel is the key to ram 7
Liam Christian - Exactly! It makes it basically recoilless & the Damage Range is LOVELY
One thing I noticed with FMJ is that it seems to do more damage THROUGH an enemy player to another BEHIND the first. So basically the first player doesn’t become a bullet sponge and you can easily down the unfortunate squad that lines up in a door, stairwell or hallway. Haven’t tested this but I’ve experienced it many times.
If FMJ goes through even brick wall, wouldn’t that make it extremely useful, especially on LMG’s? If someone is camping behind a wall you can just spray that wall to down him. Or when you shoot someone through a window you can finish that guy off by shooting through the wall.
jack: ok here is Andrew again
Andrew: oh shit here we go again
I think your really underestimating the situational advantages.
I use fmj on preety much everything.
There’s a bunch of ways I’ve found it helpful...
1. If I’m engaging in a gun fight and I shoot someone who manages to get behind cover or around a corner before I can land more than a quarter magazine,
I’m in the habit of continuing to track and shoot as they round the corner or cover. And I often score a knock down with those final few bullets.
2. If I’m rushing a group of enemies in a tight space or around a corner or doorway, I’ll often be presented with opportunities to rip through multiple people with the same bullets..
3. Most campers are hiding in corners of buildings behind a wall like the brick one you tested... using UAV or heartbeat I often unload clips into corners and drop em.
4. Vehicles: with the exception of the truck the vehicles can be destroyed with one entire 50 round assault rifle clip with FMJ, I can usually take a vehicle out by myself or only have to dodge and reload once..
5. Walls that can be penetrated with normal bullets as well as FMJ. Like doors. See a noticeable difference in normal to FMJ damage at range. You only tested close quarters.
I’m sure there’s more that I can’t think of right now. But there’s a few to consider.
And I should clarify that most of the advantages I’m talking are for warzone
*_@jackfrags, you forgot to mention "target penetration" (shooting 2 or more players at once, works bananas! in multiplayer/CQB), good video nonetheless_*
*_When players line up one behind another you can shoot all of them with the same bullet and therefore improving your TTK an all targets_*
im just sitting here watching this vid with my expired haircut
Great video, I like this type of video a lot. Its always great to learn more about how the game works
Damn it. I have FMJ on every weapon. Thanks for this. Time to change some things.
Shoulda done some research ahead of time, chief
@@CZProductions Yeah! Will do from now on.
We need realism/hardcore mode in warzone
Shane Maguire Night mode 👀
@@AstroBrindan I think that'd be super interesting!
That's what makes me more likely to get sick of it it's so so unrealistic six head shots come on wow
@@mitchellfranzel7826 I agree. Sometimes CoD just feels more like Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers playing airsoft simulator. Super fun game, but doesn't convey how lethal firearms really are. Six head shots? That's probably why I'm good in hardcore, but complete trash in normal modes. I miss realism ground war.
@Rolf Harris There is a gameode called realism
Appreciate the time and the effort you put in the video
FMJ is the worst attachment for warzone..
It tricks you into thinking you've hit someone directly but you're actually hitting them through a piece of cover and not doing nearly the amount of base DMG directly.
So when trading it can be devestating.
Alien Yogurt Pot thats like arguing dont shoot enemies till they are in the open cause they might switch armor plates and you never know how many plates they have. The better rule is to run them out of plates. That is ofc unless ur trying to remain stealthy.
I was in one of the banks yesterday it does not shoot through the green cloth by the front doors lol
Battlefield 5 title: RTX ON/OFF
Warzone title: FMJ ON/OFF
This guy really went out to just set the record straight thank you for all your and Andrew’s efforts
If you start hitting people behind cover, most the time they will flee.
Long story short, it does do more damage through certain materials but it’s not worth the attachment slot
great video! many scenarios showcased and accurate description of results. this is the kind of cod videos i like to watch. also, big thanks to Andrew for being the test subject.
Fastest I’ve ever clicked off porn
Wait, this isn't porn?
Thatcher Literally what I just did
sam8404 he means s he saw this uploaded and went off it I think
sam8404 he meant that he was watching porn then saw the notification and clicked the video quickly I think
@fruroo & Carlos I know, I was making a joke.
Honestly anyone that thought FMJ increased damage probably isn't very bright at all lmao
They probably think chocolate milk comes from brown cows
Ivan Reyes they probably make chocolate tea pots
CZ Productions all my idiot friends thought that. They swore by fmj. I’m like you idiots fmj does nothing, y’all not even shooting through walls
Fr they must not play cod much
@@larrywoods8871 Yikes, they must be new to CoD then