Hey everyone, a short and sweet video today as I’ve had a very busy week. Next week will be going back into a bit more depth 😂 but I just couldn’t let this one go unattended!
He's great, huh? I no longer refer to myself as a "Producer." Sure, I Produce - which is kinda the point lols. Reclaim "Musician" - I have been & people don't automatically assume I'm wealthy anymore. Which is good, cos I'm not. Good luck 🤞✌️🙏🇳🇿
I DJ'd professionally back when there were no CD's just vinyl. Started on my own at 16 years old then few years later decided to join forces with a mate and went all out with the rock solid Technics 1200's and other great gear. We had some lighting though hiring the lighting was the best option due to varied types of parties and venues. And also depending on what the customer wanted for the night. We sometimes had to hire out more amps and loudspeakers due to the size of some venues. We were booked every weekend and got bookings on the nights we were dj'ing. After couple years I got a job at Lazers nightclub in Melb (Many moons ago) I think once you're able to beat mix and cut straight in to the next song everything else becomes experimental. No need for academies. As long as you beat mix effectively transitioning to the next song so it's no too obvious then I think you're on the right track to becoming a great DJ. In my opinion.... what makes a great DJ is one who knows how to keep the audience on the dance floor. Who knows how to read your crowd/audience. If ya got no one dancing to what you're playing.... you desperately need to change your tune/music etc.... Otherwise no one will hire you for their birthday party. Trust me on that.
LOL, that's exactly what I think about all those "DJ Schools". I've always thought that if you need to be spoon fed to learn DJing is not for you, DJing is about exploring, seeking, finding, feeling.
ELLASKINS! Love that guy. Discovered him back then and the amount of content is just insane. I really love your videos by the way. A lot of the time I'm getting trapped myself into binge watching tutorials etc., trying to compensate for what I really wanna do. I actually think everyone of us is experiencing that to some extent. So it's really refreshing to have videos that are like a smack in the face, making my cry a little and at the same time motivate me to get to it, hard to describe. Keep creating 🙂!
Since you opened up a 'Pandoras box' What are your thoughts on paid courses like Mix with the Masters and Andrew Huang's?? My friend shared his Mix with the Masters account with me and while I was fascinated to see their projects I didn't feel like they 'teach' much it's more stories and anecdotes with a few 'here I did this and over here I did that'. I'm glad I didn't pay for that annual subscription.
I don’t wanna be a DJ, I just want to write and record some good music but this is why I follow you Ed, because you speak out and expose this kind of money grabbing shit AND deliver better, honest alternatives. I’m (a young self funded retired) 58 and have been around the block a bit and as such less likely to fall for this kind of whimsical enticement and part with my readies as maybe a more naive person would be when it come to choosing online training. As stated by you, often the free videos are superior, more diverse and all round. Great video, cheers!
Big respect for shouting out the legend ellaskins. As someone who's a DJ first and producer second, his videos have really helped me level up. And unlike the current Tiktok djing tutorials which only really teach you terrible transitions, ellaskins gets into crate digging, track selection, phrase mixing, playing old/new tracks and overall the more "philosophical" aspects of the craft which are the ones that actually matter and take time to master.
I knew I'd love this 😂😂 You are lok my spirit satan twin brother 😭❤️ I love how you BREAK things down 😁. You've got a great sense of humor and in my opinion are bang on every time. "The truth shall set you free" Keep being the online realist that we need. You are a good man 🙏🏽
Its not only about the tutoring. Its what happens after the courses are done that is what is interesting. The access to events for the best students that otherwise, without the connections these artists, like Tong, Carl Cox, Nicole Moudauber, Jamie Jones have forged through their own hard work and careers, that as a result. has and is opening doors to many young talented Dj's , both out in the scene and on music platforms, which is incredibly valuable. This kind of exposure and buy in from the scene, is not something that you can put a value on and while I have no doubt you will disagree and those that have been through the course and experienced this benefit first hand might agree, I feel, in my humble opinion, its a doorway for some that might otherwise not exist, no matter how skilled you might be.... Still. nice to see someone speaking their mind. 👌I can appreciate that.
I never understand DJ school. I've got many offered to teach or collaborate with DJ school and I always said no since I don't really know what to teach. I learn to dj on my own. Just bought a pair of janky technics that has messed up speed and I practiced. Take into account, I did this pre youtube. so literally, no one taught me. And at 1 point I made a living being a full time DJ. So there's no secret really. The secret is practice.
lol, I'm in Dash Glitches Inner Circle, where were trading tips & tricks with each other. But it's not DJ ing, it's learning to make psytrance. I'm just starting to learn Dj ing. I just bought Traktor Pro 3 with the X1 F1 & Z1 controllers. So this video and the people in the comments are a great help, thanx.
The amount of "academies" these days is amazing... and not just music-related. Sure there are legitimate ones, but overall it's knowledge you can find easily and freely.
interesting. I can tell you, the best dj's I have ever seen know their music they play almost as if they made the track. The breaks, the fills, the melodies, track length etc. This is probably the best advice I can give anyone. All that fancy shit including effects and filters won't do squat if you can't pair tracks together and build a flow.
My brother showed me the basics of dj'ing for about 10 minutes and I just started having fun and experimenting from there. That's ALL you need. Its not like learning a new instrument. Children can DJ (and they do). This is literally not rocket science
Most every genre of music has its share of formulaic, ubiquitous dreck, which includes the dreck merchants and tutorial gurus aiming to capitalize on its popularity. DJ music is no different. I absolutely love a well crafted, inventive dance song or remix, but most of it is mediocre, all-sounds-same garbage that seems like it came out of a Pete Tong-type DJ school or online DAW tutorial. If you want to play weddings, proms and house parties, maybe you can benefit from this type of education. But if you want to actually create art…. As usual, love your sense of cynical humour.
I feel like you should watch the course before telling if it's worth it. You don't have any idea they'll teach you plus I think all the free tracks and especially the talent pool are some cool add ons.
Totally reminds me of bartending academies. I can add add food coloring to the water in my own empty liquor bottles. You want to get into super high end cocktail creation, sure you need some skills but its all shit you should just pick up on the job and get PAID to do it not the other way around. These types of jobs while they are respected are honestly not hard. Just hit the guides for free and put in the work
When I dj, and I'm in the zone, if you were to look at me, you'd think im angry and screwfaced, but it's just my emotional concentration face...... Maybe these how to dj videos will teach me how to throw my hands in the air, and start clapping on breakdowns etc, yeah.......thats what I need.
Why wouldn't people want to learn from some of the most iconic DJ's in electronica who have literal decades of experience performing at some of the greatest gigs in the history of music?
Not Cox. Nooo... He's my hero. Was maybe. No one's ever taught me a SINGLE SOLITARY THING about DJ'ing & (according to others) I'm very, very proficient. When I say "taught nothing" I'm being very literal. I saw some TT's in a room in friends house at 15. "Don't touch those, you don't know what..." "Nah, I'm good I know what I'm doing." I lied, with a casual wave of my hand. I didn't even know what was in the record box. Suffice to say an hour later the party had shifted it's attention entirely to me. There's skill in it, but I see a lot of "coasting" at 'high' levels. Kinda cracks me up. The "dj secrets" that matter are probably more about linguistic coding & what I call "secret knocks" to open the right doors. I moved into "production" because DJ'ing wasn't "enough" - now I move between the two. I don't call myself a prod. though, esp. not after watching your videos. Reclaiming "Musician" - who can employ Dj mixing as ONE of (now) a few Music skill sets. There'll be DJ's somewhere laughing about this thinking "let them waste time studying bs - keeps potential competition busy longer." I would remind them people investing hard won $$$ for this.
Are you trying to say that the first time you ever used turntables you were so good that the entire ‘party shifted their attention to you’ ? Do you also date models who conveniently live overseas?
@@Strafuzz yes I am. It wasn't a huge party mate we were teens. What I'm saying is that I'd seen enough of it that I could operate the equipment very easily & always have been able to. It's not that hard. I find a lot of joy in the preparation that's possible that wasn't then.
When Pete Thong quits no one will know how to create, there will be no music on this planet... #keepthescenealive Also can you throw your opinion on mastering and the 'great' mastering services online? Would love to watch that! Keep up the good shit!
My initial reaction to your video was very negative, I really hate this snarky style. But you know what? You're absolutely right. Props to ruclips.net/user/ellaskins
Being a successful DJ is more of a character test than anything else. Knowing how to market yourself, schmooze with people, have a 'life of the party' personality and in general embody a personal brand that people want to buy in to. The quiet nerd that makes it on the back of truly revolutionary music/performance is a once in a blue moon phenomenon, most successful DJs are big personalities with engaging personal branding playing fashionable music in a fun, yet unremarkable way. 'I saw DJ x on the weekend, she was awesome! Had the crowd eating out of her hand' 'what did she play?' 'dunno... new techno stuff. It was pretty bangin' 'Yeah everyone's playing harder these days eh' If a big personality showboat with engaging taste in tunes is who you are naturally, go for it. If not, you need to go the hard road of musical revolution or come up with some other unique selling point. It's so often little to do with what's actually going on when you're behind the decks. Of course, musically, if you suck when you play, it all falls apart, but if you're thinking you want to be a successful DJ, YOU already love music, practice a lot and (hopefully) understand that the job is to make OTHER people dance, so chances are that part is already taken care of.
Those guys are great dj's for sure so it would make a great face (packaging) of a product/service and that's it. Only beginners with lack of research will sign up for it. And shout out to "ELLASKINS!" I actually don't know if he have a lot of tutorials, been only watching his product reviews most of the time... Errrr, speaking about lack of research lol 😜
The people who pay for these courses probably write formal job application letters to night clubs that boast their graduating from the Pete Tong DJ Academy and no doubt they hang their certificate on their bedroom wall too.
I ain’t hating, but why has your guy of 16 years teaching this never been heard of? The guys Pete tong listed off are obviously doing something that other are not. There is value in that.
Financially, better off than most by having “enough”. Emotionally, richer than most by loving what I do and how I do it. I think Elaskins could relate.
Ellaskins and Club Ready waffle on FOREVER about nothing before getting to the point. At least this course SORT OF gets to the point - albeit after 2 hrs of them indulging in their BS life stories for 2 hrs, with shoddy filming and questionable tutors who explain things with strong accents and vague powerpoint pictures.
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Hey everyone, a short and sweet video today as I’ve had a very busy week. Next week will be going back into a bit more depth 😂 but I just couldn’t let this one go unattended!
Props for shouting out ellaskins that guy is dope
One of the RUclips figures who is not talked about but has done a lot of work to introduce young adepts to the advanced level
Short, sweet, and straight to the point. Highly effective!
Also thanks for your videos. They've helped me A LOT in my music production journey.
He's great, huh? I no longer refer to myself as a "Producer." Sure, I Produce - which is kinda the point lols.
Reclaim "Musician" - I have been & people don't automatically assume I'm wealthy anymore. Which is good, cos I'm not.
Good luck 🤞✌️🙏🇳🇿
I DJ'd professionally back when there were no CD's just vinyl. Started on my own at 16 years old then few years later decided to join forces with a mate and went all out with the rock solid Technics 1200's and other great gear. We had some lighting though hiring the lighting was the best option due to varied types of parties and venues. And also depending on what the customer wanted for the night. We sometimes had to hire out more amps and loudspeakers due to the size of some venues. We were booked every weekend and got bookings on the nights we were dj'ing. After couple years I got a job at Lazers nightclub in Melb (Many moons ago)
I think once you're able to beat mix and cut straight in to the next song everything else becomes experimental. No need for academies. As long as you beat mix effectively transitioning to the next song so it's no too obvious then I think you're on the right track to becoming a great DJ. In my opinion.... what makes a great DJ is one who knows how to keep the audience on the dance floor. Who knows how to read your crowd/audience. If ya got no one dancing to what you're playing.... you desperately need to change your tune/music etc.... Otherwise no one will hire you for their birthday party. Trust me on that.
LOL, that's exactly what I think about all those "DJ Schools". I've always thought that if you need to be spoon fed to learn DJing is not for you, DJing is about exploring, seeking, finding, feeling.
ELLASKINS! Love that guy. Discovered him back then and the amount of content is just insane. I really love your videos by the way. A lot of the time I'm getting trapped myself into binge watching tutorials etc., trying to compensate for what I really wanna do. I actually think everyone of us is experiencing that to some extent. So it's really refreshing to have videos that are like a smack in the face, making my cry a little and at the same time motivate me to get to it, hard to describe. Keep creating 🙂!
Since you opened up a 'Pandoras box' What are your thoughts on paid courses like Mix with the Masters and Andrew Huang's?? My friend shared his Mix with the Masters account with me and while I was fascinated to see their projects I didn't feel like they 'teach' much it's more stories and anecdotes with a few 'here I did this and over here I did that'. I'm glad I didn't pay for that annual subscription.
Mix with the Masters is the shit, man. I don't know which ones you watched but there's a lot to take from there.
I’ve never heard of Mix with Masters before. I’ll check it out.
I don’t wanna be a DJ, I just want to write and record some good music but this is why I follow you Ed, because you speak out and expose this kind of money grabbing shit AND deliver better, honest alternatives.
I’m (a young self funded retired) 58 and have been around the block a bit and as such less likely to fall for this kind of whimsical enticement and part with my readies as maybe a more naive person would be when it come to choosing online training. As stated by you, often the free videos are superior, more diverse and all round.
Great video, cheers!
Appreciate it!
Omg i had the exact same thought when i first seen the add. I love your honesty!
Big respect for shouting out the legend ellaskins. As someone who's a DJ first and producer second, his videos have really helped me level up. And unlike the current Tiktok djing tutorials which only really teach you terrible transitions, ellaskins gets into crate digging, track selection, phrase mixing, playing old/new tracks and overall the more "philosophical" aspects of the craft which are the ones that actually matter and take time to master.
I knew I'd love this 😂😂
You are lok my spirit satan twin brother 😭❤️ I love how you BREAK things down 😁. You've got a great sense of humor and in my opinion are bang on every time.
"The truth shall set you free"
Keep being the online realist that we need. You are a good man 🙏🏽
ellaskins is awesome, and I would shout out to Club Ready DJ School and Carlo Atendido also.
Just finding your channel and fucking love it. keep the epies rollin. Cheer!!!
Welcome! Thanks very much 😎
Its not only about the tutoring. Its what happens after the courses are done that is what is interesting. The access to events for the best students that otherwise, without the connections these artists, like Tong, Carl Cox, Nicole Moudauber, Jamie Jones have forged through their own hard work and careers, that as a result. has and is opening doors to many young talented Dj's , both out in the scene and on music platforms, which is incredibly valuable.
This kind of exposure and buy in from the scene, is not something that you can put a value on and while I have no doubt you will disagree and those that have been through the course and experienced this benefit first hand might agree, I feel, in my humble opinion, its a doorway for some that might otherwise not exist, no matter how skilled you might be.... Still. nice to see someone speaking their mind. 👌I can appreciate that.
I appreciate the nuance in this, and I also understand Ed's point of view.
Well, good luck to the ones who do decide to “buy in”
I never understand DJ school. I've got many offered to teach or collaborate with DJ school and I always said no since I don't really know what to teach. I learn to dj on my own. Just bought a pair of janky technics that has messed up speed and I practiced. Take into account, I did this pre youtube. so literally, no one taught me. And at 1 point I made a living being a full time DJ. So there's no secret really. The secret is practice.
Short, but clear
100% correct
lol, I'm in Dash Glitches Inner Circle, where were trading tips & tricks with each other. But it's not DJ ing, it's learning to make psytrance. I'm just starting to learn Dj ing. I just bought Traktor Pro 3 with the X1 F1 & Z1 controllers. So this video and the people in the comments are a great help, thanx.
The amount of "academies" these days is amazing... and not just music-related. Sure there are legitimate ones, but overall it's knowledge you can find easily and freely.
You are brilliant mr Ed!!!
Ellaskins was the first vids I watched when I was learning vinyl. Blokes awesome
Thanks for a quick one. Gonna check out this Ellaskins asap. Cya
Thank you 👍
interesting. I can tell you, the best dj's I have ever seen know their music they play almost as if they made the track. The breaks, the fills, the melodies, track length etc. This is probably the best advice I can give anyone. All that fancy shit including effects and filters won't do squat if you can't pair tracks together and build a flow.
pretty easy now that sync buttons are everywhere
My brother showed me the basics of dj'ing for about 10 minutes and I just started having fun and experimenting from there. That's ALL you need. Its not like learning a new instrument. Children can DJ (and they do). This is literally not rocket science
Most every genre of music has its share of formulaic, ubiquitous dreck, which includes the dreck merchants and tutorial gurus aiming to capitalize on its popularity. DJ music is no different. I absolutely love a well crafted, inventive dance song or remix, but most of it is mediocre, all-sounds-same garbage that seems like it came out of a Pete Tong-type DJ school or online DAW tutorial. If you want to play weddings, proms and house parties, maybe you can benefit from this type of education. But if you want to actually create art….
As usual, love your sense of cynical humour.
Keep it up, nice videos!
Perfect! 👍🏼
Hey. Love you legend. Thx
Love these DJ's as well, heard about all of this at the IMS back in April, but really? I'm with you... And if I can DJ, then any idiot can! 😂
I want to join the PTDJA to try and get into the tallent pool, too risky ?
I’m sure they will happily take your money 😉
Great video🕶
Grazie.
Thanks so much!
Quality! 🤣🤣
ELLASKINS is a real legend!
Too right
Never done a super thanks lol but thanks mate! You seem like a great guy. Go get yourself a large cappuccino and a cake. Cheers
Ahhh appreciate it mate! Thanks so much.
You don't go to learn you go for the gigs at the end of the course
Exactly
I should get a refund..
I feel like you should watch the course before telling if it's worth it. You don't have any idea they'll teach you plus I think all the free tracks and especially the talent pool are some cool add ons.
Send me your login details 😘
Totally reminds me of bartending academies. I can add add food coloring to the water in my own empty liquor bottles. You want to get into super high end cocktail creation, sure you need some skills but its all shit you should just pick up on the job and get PAID to do it not the other way around.
These types of jobs while they are respected are honestly not hard. Just hit the guides for free and put in the work
I have no idea of what the DJ guys and gals even need to know to do their stuff, but I would like to see a demonstration....for free of course!
When I dj, and I'm in the zone, if you were to look at me, you'd think im angry and screwfaced, but it's just my emotional concentration face......
Maybe these how to dj videos will teach me how to throw my hands in the air, and start clapping on breakdowns etc, yeah.......thats what I need.
Why wouldn't people want to learn from some of the most iconic DJ's in electronica who have literal decades of experience performing at some of the greatest gigs in the history of music?
Exactly. Then you can put that on your resume 😂
@@mredrollo an arrogant prick would no doubt do that but that's their problem not mine
🤣👏🏾🤣👏🏾👏🏾
Not Cox. Nooo... He's my hero. Was maybe. No one's ever taught me a SINGLE SOLITARY THING about DJ'ing & (according to others) I'm very, very proficient.
When I say "taught nothing" I'm being very literal. I saw some TT's in a room in friends house at 15. "Don't touch those, you don't know what..."
"Nah, I'm good I know what I'm doing." I lied, with a casual wave of my hand. I didn't even know what was in the record box.
Suffice to say an hour later the party had shifted it's attention entirely to me.
There's skill in it, but I see a lot of "coasting" at 'high' levels.
Kinda cracks me up. The "dj secrets" that matter are probably more about linguistic coding & what I call "secret knocks" to open the right doors.
I moved into "production" because DJ'ing wasn't "enough" - now I move between the two. I don't call myself a prod. though, esp. not after watching your videos. Reclaiming "Musician" - who can employ Dj mixing as ONE of (now) a few Music skill sets.
There'll be DJ's somewhere laughing about this thinking "let them waste time studying bs - keeps potential competition busy longer."
I would remind them people investing hard won $$$ for this.
Are you trying to say that the first time you ever used turntables you were so good that the entire ‘party shifted their attention to you’ ? Do you also date models who conveniently live overseas?
@@Strafuzz yes I am. It wasn't a huge party mate we were teens. What I'm saying is that I'd seen enough of it that I could operate the equipment very easily & always have been able to. It's not that hard. I find a lot of joy in the preparation that's possible that wasn't then.
☕️
When Pete Thong quits no one will know how to create, there will be no music on this planet... #keepthescenealive
Also can you throw your opinion on mastering and the 'great' mastering services online? Would love to watch that!
Keep up the good shit!
My initial reaction to your video was very negative, I really hate this snarky style. But you know what? You're absolutely right. Props to ruclips.net/user/ellaskins
Thanks? 😂
Ellaskins doesn't show a lot. How am I the only person to feel that way?
Didn't pick up anything from those 5000 videos?
Respect
Being a successful DJ is more of a character test than anything else. Knowing how to market yourself, schmooze with people, have a 'life of the party' personality and in general embody a personal brand that people want to buy in to. The quiet nerd that makes it on the back of truly revolutionary music/performance is a once in a blue moon phenomenon, most successful DJs are big personalities with engaging personal branding playing fashionable music in a fun, yet unremarkable way.
'I saw DJ x on the weekend, she was awesome! Had the crowd eating out of her hand' 'what did she play?' 'dunno... new techno stuff. It was pretty bangin' 'Yeah everyone's playing harder these days eh'
If a big personality showboat with engaging taste in tunes is who you are naturally, go for it. If not, you need to go the hard road of musical revolution or come up with some other unique selling point. It's so often little to do with what's actually going on when you're behind the decks. Of course, musically, if you suck when you play, it all falls apart, but if you're thinking you want to be a successful DJ, YOU already love music, practice a lot and (hopefully) understand that the job is to make OTHER people dance, so chances are that part is already taken care of.
Ellaskins is the guy.
Those guys are great dj's for sure so it would make a great face (packaging) of a product/service and that's it. Only beginners with lack of research will sign up for it. And shout out to "ELLASKINS!" I actually don't know if he have a lot of tutorials, been only watching his product reviews most of the time... Errrr, speaking about lack of research lol 😜
for me the very point of djing is to not be academic haha
You have to let people do what they want... making a morbid video to monetize a video speaking badly of great DJs is unfortunate 😞
I actually spoke highly of them.
The people who pay for these courses probably write formal job application letters to night clubs that boast their graduating from the Pete Tong DJ Academy and no doubt they hang their certificate on their bedroom wall too.
I ain’t hating, but why has your guy of 16 years teaching this never been heard of? The guys Pete tong listed off are obviously doing something that other are not. There is value in that.
Great artists don't necessarily make great teachers 😉
Great marketing has its part to play!
so thats how u pronounce ellaskins....
I think so 🤷🏼♂️
Some of us are old enough to remember when Pete Tong couldn’t mix for toffee.
nobody is born knowing how to do something at a high level
Elaskins is poor, how rich are you😂😂😂😂😂😂
Financially, better off than most by having “enough”. Emotionally, richer than most by loving what I do and how I do it. I think Elaskins could relate.
Ellaskins and Club Ready waffle on FOREVER about nothing before getting to the point. At least this course SORT OF gets to the point - albeit after 2 hrs of them indulging in their BS life stories for 2 hrs, with shoddy filming and questionable tutors who explain things with strong accents and vague powerpoint pictures.
Exactly
Total cash grab.