Viper, that last deer you lured around 5:40, is there a trick you used to get it to come in from the edge of the map? The deer ran towards your scout instead of away from it
I guessed that because of where he moved his scout to, he figured if he places it at a certain angle or distance it causes different behaviour or something. I would have expected him to move the scout right up to the deer. You're probably right that it's random, because that's what would make sense, but was hoping that he figured out some trick. He's not the only one to get annoyed by deer luring :)
@@mgm8862 yeah I'm fina do that too once I start playing again, sounds op . Hey, go figure: my GT in Xbox was NoobMasterFTW 😂 I was pretty good though
I so wanted a TC where the boars were to see mass boar slaughter. But I suppose its not so efficient to walk your villagers there? Its just my OCD, I want all boars dead :'D
Great match! 👑🐍❤ It would be cool to see a 4v4 match with European civs from one team for example Britons, Italians, Teutons and Franks vs Asian/American/You name it civs on the other one! Asian civs for example would be like Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese. Fun idea! Go for it! 😉👍
Tradition of how it was typically played because it's the hardest map to scout. Finding the choke points early is too big of an advantage that it would be too random. There are relics and resources hidden inside trees sometimes so you would never know to chop there.
gate sq pen trebs palisade if desperate as siege cant re garrison. at least rams can be garrisoned for ms. onager have civ bonuses. treb have pack time and extreme range, most immobile. gate pen 4x. if u sq formation ur trebs its ez quickwall
Once every few months Viper puts out a LongBow video. They are by far my favorite because he's so legit rape with the LB's. I wanna see him use them in major matches vs hera etc also.
Archers need to be massed, otherwise they are not effective. Longbows need castles to be produced, in tournaments there is generally open maps and closed maps. For open maps feudal age is important and you can't produce longbows obviously and when you hit castle still there is a long way to go for massing them you can 4 range spam +1 range crossbows easily and if you have archers just making them xbow really good thing. For closed maps if it's a long series sometimes Britons gets picked but in bo5 generally there is better civs. Portuguese, Turks, Bohemians, Bengalis etc. However recently i think it was warlords tournament viper and Jordan played a very long game with Britons vs Bengalis you can watch it.
@@MegaFabulous one of the main issue with longbows in closed maps is the same with any UU you need castles for trebs. and brits can't go for bombard cannons so it's extra needed to have those available and even later, you'll still have massed crossbows while building the trebs so teching into arbs just makes sense. and if you already have the arbs you dont want to use extra resources to get elite longbows it's one of those things thats one or the other, and arbs is just an easier/smoother thing to do
They're seriously dumb. If anything, they should be a unique unit made at the castle. Being able to spam them from stables is so stupidly OP. The devs nakedly gave a new civ 2 unique units.
The BF is so stupid map, very long games without interesting strategies to understand after all, that one of you teammates are runout of gold and die, brrrr disgusting
Mass Castles and Longbows on Black Forest. Can't believe the meta has shifted to 'the games my dad played when I was a kid'.
Rage forest 4 test map? Hmm
And it's great to know that viper's favourite movie trilogy is LOTR. Those are timeless classics.
19:28 you need to click farther so they will cancel unpacking and move; by click farther, it means out of trebuchet's range
Britons needs a buff…
Viper, that last deer you lured around 5:40, is there a trick you used to get it to come in from the edge of the map? The deer ran towards your scout instead of away from it
No, that's random. He often is quite upset with deer spawning on the edge ;)
I guessed that because of where he moved his scout to, he figured if he places it at a certain angle or distance it causes different behaviour or something. I would have expected him to move the scout right up to the deer. You're probably right that it's random, because that's what would make sense, but was hoping that he figured out some trick. He's not the only one to get annoyed by deer luring :)
Yeah, who doesn't love the range of longbows
In theory, what are some of the best civs to conduct a push military-wise?
Can I ask: Why not build a tc on the 15 boars and have a wood tc there? also nice place to get castles on lateron?
We noobs do that
That's very far away bro, it would make more sense for toplo to lure them.
@@mgm8862 yeah I'm fina do that too once I start playing again, sounds op . Hey, go figure: my GT in Xbox was NoobMasterFTW 😂 I was pretty good though
I so wanted a TC where the boars were to see mass boar slaughter. But I suppose its not so efficient to walk your villagers there? Its just my OCD, I want all boars dead :'D
As a mongol player I had the same OCD
"Im just watching the two towers" you mean where the awesome archers get slaughtered? perhaps you subconsciously paid homage to this.
What's the logic behind idling the TCs early but not getting loom?
Great match! 👑🐍❤ It would be cool to see a 4v4 match with European civs from one team for example Britons, Italians, Teutons and Franks vs Asian/American/You name it civs on the other one! Asian civs for example would be like Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese. Fun idea! Go for it! 😉👍
And call it race wars
Why is black forest always explored?
Tradition of how it was typically played because it's the hardest map to scout. Finding the choke points early is too big of an advantage that it would be too random. There are relics and resources hidden inside trees sometimes so you would never know to chop there.
I see....thanks for the explanation.
People are really going to still question weather his fish boom is better than farms seeing the score 😂
*whether
Yeah t90 is pretty extreme, watch out for him bipey 😂
gate sq pen trebs palisade if desperate as siege cant re garrison. at least rams can be garrisoned for ms. onager have civ bonuses. treb have pack time and extreme range, most immobile. gate pen 4x. if u sq formation ur trebs its ez quickwall
Aztecs skirms are good?
You had me at longbows
is your hotkey for go to University set to U? my trebs unpack inadvertently sometimes because of that
Why no color Red?
Bro really said fishing simulator
Viper der Fischer 😂
Did you know you can make a jesus cross with houses?!
Viper you are the best ❤
Briton is best civ
Ur mom is my best civ
Theyre so annoying to seige
Against Vietnamese?
Once every few months Viper puts out a LongBow video. They are by far my favorite because he's so legit rape with the LB's. I wanna see him use them in major matches vs hera etc also.
Archers need to be massed, otherwise they are not effective. Longbows need castles to be produced, in tournaments there is generally open maps and closed maps.
For open maps feudal age is important and you can't produce longbows obviously and when you hit castle still there is a long way to go for massing them you can 4 range spam +1 range crossbows easily and if you have archers just making them xbow really good thing.
For closed maps if it's a long series sometimes Britons gets picked but in bo5 generally there is better civs. Portuguese, Turks, Bohemians, Bengalis etc. However recently i think it was warlords tournament viper and Jordan played a very long game with Britons vs Bengalis you can watch it.
ruclips.net/video/frg53BE02Mw/видео.html here it wasn't warlords it was t90 Titans league, but he couldn't make a lot of longbows he needed skirms
@@MegaFabulous one of the main issue with longbows in closed maps is the same with any UU
you need castles for trebs. and brits can't go for bombard cannons so it's extra needed to have those available
and even later, you'll still have massed crossbows while building the trebs so teching into arbs just makes sense. and if you already have the arbs you dont want to use extra resources to get elite longbows
it's one of those things thats one or the other, and arbs is just an easier/smoother thing to do
Hard to do that in 1v1, but you might see them in team game tournaments.
Shrivamsha are such bullshit units lmao
They're seriously dumb. If anything, they should be a unique unit made at the castle. Being able to spam them from stables is so stupidly OP. The devs nakedly gave a new civ 2 unique units.
JA ja jaaaaaa!!!!!!
The question: "Why am I housed like a noob?" rather answers itself no?
I stopped watching the last video midway to google what's this scandal about mason greenwood
Viper is a united fan?👀👀👀
Greetings from Germany
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Red player started to make any army way too late that was annoying :)
Viper can only play the pocket.
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The BF is so stupid map, very long games without interesting strategies to understand after all, that one of you teammates are runout of gold and die, brrrr disgusting
We won Carabao cup, mate!